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Unfinished Business And A Warning
SPEAKER_03There is no bow on the package. There is no rustling of paper on a surprise gift. There is only the offense of the cross as we wrap up some unfinished topics. It's time to wrap up Alibeth Stucky, Western Journal, Bible Girls, and finally, The Oscars. In this, the Year of Our Lord, March 2026. The Consider Podcast. www.consider.info. Examining today's wisdom. Wisdom. Folly, folly, and madness.
SPEAKER_18Welcome to the Consider Podcast, where we examine today's wisdom, folly, and madness. More information can be found at www.consider.info. Now, here are your hosts, Timothy and Jacob.
TimothyMr. Jacob, where in scripture is it recorded? The first debate?
JacobUm, the very first debate ever. It's gotta be towards the beginning. So probably uh the creation story. Well, the Adam and Eve story.
TimothyWhat debate caused the fall, the complete collapse of a holy universe into a sinful universe?
JacobThat would be the serpent in Eve.
TimothySo the first debate recorded in Scripture that destroyed the whole universe caused the stars to begin to crumble and the earth to decay and death entering in and all the diseases and Noah's flood and the destructions from there and sin taking place all came about because of a debate. And that debate was between who again, Jacob? Tell the people who that debate was between.
JacobIt was between the serpent and Eve. Okay, so I'll ask the conclusion. Who lost the debate? Um, who lost well uh Eve ultimately lost because as you uh mentioned, sin entered the world and then uh, you know, et cetera, et cetera.
TimothyYep. Eve lost the debate and all her children and her husband. Eve placed her children in danger, made her husband a loser, and as I've already repeated too many times, a complete collapse of the heavens that we call the universe. Play the file.
SPEAKER_03The debate is on. Who started all this talk? Who stepped forward with this clash and clamor of noise? Who began the yakity yakity dark clouds of emotions? Let us listen in and listen to who lost the debate. Genesis 3, 1 through 6. Now the serpent was more crafty than any of the wild animals the Lord God has made. The snake said to the woman, Did God really say, You must not eat from any tree in the garden? The woman said to the serpent, We may eat fruit from the trees in the garden, but God did say, You must not eat fruit from the tree that's in the middle of the garden, and you must not touch it, or you will die. You will not surely die, the serpent said to the woman. For God knows that when you eat of it, your eyes will be opened, and you'll be like God, knowing good and knowing evil. When the woman saw that the fruit of the tree was good for food and pleasing to the eye, and also desirable for gaining wisdom, she took some and ate it. She also gave some to her husband, who was with her, and he ate it. The Consider Podcast. WWW dot consider.info examining today's wisdom, folly, and madness.
TimothyThe first debate. Did Ali Beth Stuckey? Oh, I mean, did Eve know the truth, Jacob?
JacobUh well, she knew the truth that she wasn't supposed to touch the fruit. So she knew the truth. Yeah, she did. She knew what God told her.
TimothyThat's right. She was able to break down the argument. She was able to logically take it in. She was able to even, I'm going to say, love the word of God because she's quoting the word of God, correct? Correct. So everything was absolutely almost 100%. Well, it was 100% by Eve. You couldn't have faulted her for what technically she said. What was happening was the outcome, the conclusion, the deception entered into it by the serpent, and she lost. So Ali Beth Stuckey claims to love the Word of God. Fine. Eve did the same thing. Claimed to be able to break things down, to logically go over things, to become God with God's word, so to speak, and talk to the servant, serpent, but then she lost. And this is why in First Timothy chapter 2 verse 14, which, which Eve would probably agree with. Which Ali Beth Stuckey does she agree with this? Don't know. First Timothy chapter 2, verse 14. Jacob, read it to us.
JacobAnd Adam was not the one deceived. It was the woman who was deceived and became a sinner.
TimothySo the real debate is not whether women can logically break things down. There are women engineers, there are women doctors, there are women that can do all kinds of things. No. What are some other things women can do? I mean, there's been scientists, there was the one that invented um X-rays, although she killed herself by inflicting herself on the same damage, but men have done the same thing. So the the debate here isn't that whether women are intelligent enough, and I'm using my air quotes, to figure things out up to a point. Up to a point. But what is the problem? The problem is women are easily deceived. They deceive themselves, they like hearing lies. And the serpent's smart enough though. I mean, Satan, don't we know, and often say, well, Satan knows scripture? I mean, he quoted scripture to uh Jesus, right?
JacobYes.
Pearly Clip And Confusion Claims
TimothyYou know, you would think about that, just just backing up just a little bit. It's interesting that God came in the form of a man who's Jesus rather than a woman. You would think if you're gonna fix something, so to speak, because Eve is the one that caused the problem. Uh she became a sinner, she was deceived. So you would have thought logically, and I'm just spelling this out logically, that God would send a woman to undo what the first woman did. Sure, yeah. Make it all right. Make it all right. Show what a woman is really capable of, but that's not what God does. And then he commands in Paul's gospel, the gospel in the New Testament, Peter preached, all the apostles preached, that a woman should learn in what, Jacob? Uh submission. Full submission. Full submission and silence. Not enter into the debate. Any comments on that so far? No. All right, let's play this next clip. This is by Pearlie, I think she goes by. She's attuned to and sees through a lot of the hypocrisy of women in general and also the Christian community and those who claim to be Christians. And someday I'll probably do a show on all the things she says. Now, she the problem with is it's easy to point out the hypocrisy in other people. It's easy to point out the hypocrisy in the church. I've had many, many people come to me and go, well, the church is a hypocrite, and this goes on, and I always turn to them and say, Well, fine. I agree with that. I'm not arguing that point, I'm not justifying that point. Why don't you join and set the example? And that well, so far, 100% of the time, has shut everybody up and they go on their way. I saw the same hypocrisy. Indeed, I've seen it more and more, obviously, as I am discipled by Jesus Christ and grow in the Word. The difference is my resolve is to set the example rather than to complain. That said, she makes some valid points. Let's play it and listen to it and just kind of acknowledge the truth of what she's saying.
SPEAKER_12And notice it's all women in the audience. That that's when you know someone's full of shit, if I'm being honest. You will get a lot of conservative women, as we talk about, that do the same thing as liberal women. And I kind of just wish they would just be liberal women. It would just be more easy for me. And Ali Beth Stuckey is one of those. You know, she's a very naggy wife, you know, always nagging men on what they should do. She hates the red pill. And now she's preaching but pretending not to preach.
SPEAKER_16When you are a Christian, nothing is trivial, nothing is mundane, and nothing is neutral. C.S. Lewis once wrote that there is no neutral ground in all of the universe. Every spare second in every square inch has been claimed by God or counterclaimed by Satan. This Satan is a real enemy who wants to confuse you, who is begging you to say no to this age-old question Did God really say He wants to silence you, He wants to scare you, He wants you completely lying to the spirit.
TimothyAny quick thoughts on that, Jacob?
JacobUm other than I I didn't know that the pearly lady, yeah, was going had also made comments on Ali Beth Stucky. I didn't know. Oh, yeah.
TimothyIt's obvious. Yeah. I mean, as she's saying those, first of all, she's quoting a man, C.S. Lewis. There's no men in there. Those are just obvious things. But the final quote is this mocking that's been going on. I've seen it go on because I'm an older gentleman for decades. She goes, This Satan is a real enemy who wants to confuse you, who is begging you to say no to this age-old question. Did God really say he wants to silence you? He wants to scare you. He wants to completely blind you to the spirit. And they're not even complete sentences, and people are often filling in the blank. So, all right, backing up a little bit, I don't have time to like just dive in and take this apart. If you want to do that, listen to the audiobook or get a copy of the book Insanity in the Church, or listen to any of the old podcasts and kind of thing, they'll break this down. So, really, Satan is the enemy. So let me back up. If Satan is equated with confusion, then anytime you're confused, who's who's the one doing the confusing?
JacobUm, well, according to her, she's saying that it's Satan. Anytime you're confused, Satan, I guess, is a it must be attacking you.
Perplexed With Christ Not With Satan
TimothyThe problem here is Ali Beth Stuckey knows absolutely nothing about the cross of Jesus Christ. When you're being crucified with Jesus Christ, you become confused. Yeah. And if that is equated with Satan, you're really into kind of setting people up to blaspheme against the Holy Spirit. Because just say, for example, I bring across this the message of the cross and I bring this gospel, and people become confused. That's right. The the apostles, as they followed Jesus Christ for three and a half years, were never confused, right, Jacob?
JacobUh they were confused a lot and they totally did not understand what Jesus was doing most of the time.
TimothyYeah, you could go 99%. They barely got to it at the Last Supper. So to say that, you know, that Satan is the confuser of men is is to set up a situation where you can never follow Jesus. You can never be discipled by him. Because the minute that you become confused, that's evil, you can you can blame Satan. So what happens is everybody becomes babies at best, and you know, oh, I'm confused, I'm upset, that oh, that's Satan robbing my peace, and then they just totally shut out Jesus Christ and God getting to them. That's how serious this is. Then she goes on to say, of course, the age-old question Did God really say he wants to silence you? Uh yeah. We've we've yes, he really did. But see, then if you get confused, well, what does silence mean? And how does that come out? And and how did this over here, if you become confused in the issue, then obviously it's Satan that's confusing you. And so God doesn't want you really to be silent. It's weird because again, she's not really breaking this down for somebody that prides themselves on I'm able to logically break things down and really put it out into debate and lay it all out. This is like this is a pathetic statement. Now, I realize this is a quick uh snapshot of what she's saying, but it is totally confusing when you're all said and done. The only way you can accept this is to accept simple children platitudes. All right. Repeating once again, being crucified with Christ is a dizzying affair. Let's go to 2 Corinthians chapter 4, verse 7. And Paul makes it very, very clear about his walk with God, comparing this to what Ali Beth Stuckey has to say. Second Corinthians 4, 7, but we have this treasure in jars of clay. He's already pointing to weakness, isn't he? To show that this all surpassing power is from God, not from us. We're gonna see here in a moment that Ali Beth Stuckey doesn't point to the power of God because she can't point to the power of God. It's all about her education, it's about her upbringing. Now, she will slide the word Holy Spirit into that, but I want you to notice that it's all wrapped around about really how grand she is, how God-like she has become. But we have this treasure in jars of clay to show, to show this all-surpassing power is from God and not from us. Now, you read 2 Corinthians 4.8 in contrast to what Ali Best Stucky just told this whole group of women and the men who will be taught by these women when they go home. Go ahead and read that, Jacob.
JacobWe are hard-pressed on every side, but not crushed, perplexed, but not in despair. Perplexed, but not in despair. What do you make of that, those words, Jacob? Uh perplexed means like confused or unsure, uncertain.
TimothyTo begin to follow Jesus Christ, to be a disciple of Jesus Christ, where he personally is leading you toward the cross, will confuse you. The only type of Christianity that's not perplexing is one that isn't following Jesus Christ. I I'm more perplexed about what God is doing and understanding and working out my salvation with fear and trembling, and what does he want me to do here and go here? There's a wrestling process going on because I'm being crucified. The flesh with its thoughts and plans, and I'm doing this as a bare minimum, has to go. Understanding these things of God and hearing from the Holy Spirit exactly what scripture's saying is perplexing because it's the nature of who Jesus is. Jesus poses the questions as he walks along with the apostles. He puts them in situations where they are hard-pressed on every side. This isn't some, I go into the coffee shop and I sit down and I work in the Word of God and it's all comfortable and cozy. This is I'm following Jesus Christ. I'm on the cross, I'm a jar of clay, and he's pressing down on me by his own power to make me weak so that he can demonstrate that it is his power that is doing the work. We are hard pressed on every side. So you're telling me all those women sitting in that audience and Ali Beth Stuckey can stand up and go, Yep, we are hard pressed on every side.
JacobNo, definitely not.
TimothyAre you sure? I'm sure they're so busy doing housework, raising rebellious children, dealing with kids, loving their husbands. I mean, those really aren't hard-pressed things. But they they can't stand up and go, we are hard-pressed on every side. I don't know that they can stand up and say we're hard-pressed on any side. Correct. But it's so powerful what Paul is feeling in verse 8. He says, we are hard-pressed on every side. But look at what he says. But not crushed. You you can feel this cross as it does its work in your life. And then he goes on to talk about we're persecuted but not abandoned, struck down, but not destroyed. Now look at verse 10. And this is what Ali Beth Stuckey and all of these women and whatever these godly, and I'm putting that in quote, men are doing with these quote unquote Christian women. Look at 2 Corinthians 4 10 and read that, Jacob.
JacobWe always carry around in our body the death of Jesus, so that the life of Jesus may also be revealed in our body.
TimothyThere is nothing about the message of Alibeth Stuckey, nor those women sitting in the pews or audience listening that demonstrate that they are always, always, we always carry around in our body the death of Jesus. Those are foreign words. They wouldn't understand what I'm telling them. Yeah. In fact, what would they be, Jacob?
JacobUh they would be confused, and therefore you are evil. That's right. They'd be confused. You're confusing them. You're confusing them.
TimothySo I would be a cult leader, right? Yeah, something like that. I would be something evile, evil of Satan's whispering.
JacobGo ahead. And nowadays they don't even call people cult leaders anymore. They just ignore you. They they just like, you know, they just don't listen. They just tune out. They just say it's not even they don't even get worked up, but they're like, no, that's confusing. That's evil. I'm just gonna focus on all of these amazing things that God is doing in my life.
TimothyAs I get my latte from the local coffee shop. Yeah. And I have to say it because you set it up well. That's right. They don't bother to call me a cult. It's only King County prosecutors that decide I should quote unquote be destroyed. Yeah. We always, day and night, in bed, out of bed, in health, bad health, whatever it is, we always carry around in a body the death of Jesus so that the life of Jesus may also be revealed in a body. It goes on at the same time. Oh, are you confused, Ali Beth Stucky? Now she's not going to claim she is. What about the audience? What about if I just what if I just got up there because I was invited, right? And all those women had their coverings on. And I said, okay, here, here's the sermon for today. 2 Corinthians 4 10. We always carry around in our body the death of Jesus, so the life of Jesus may also be revealed. That's it. Now I want everybody to write a report on how their life reflects that scripture. Wouldn't get very far.
JacobYeah, and they well, they would also whitewash it and you know, whatever, blah, blah, blah. They they'd have their they wouldn't actually understand it. They come up with something.
TimothyOh no, I in fact, when they turn the reports in, I would totally demolish them. It'd be things like, well, I I gave birth to, you know, two children, I have to, my husband's grouchy, and on Saturday mornings, I, you know, it it'd be silly stuff, not the needs of Jesus Christ. Sure. Finally, let's go to Galatians 2 2 to kind of like just nail the coffin on this um whole business about being confused, not sure what I'm doing, where am I going? What's God doing? Am I on the right path? What's going on? Galatians 2 2. Paul writes, this is Paul writing many years, I think a couple decades after preaching the gospel in a lot of places. He goes, I went in response to Revelation and set before them the gospel that I had preached among the Gentiles. But I did this privately. Look at what he's saying. But I did this privately to those who seem to be leaders for fear that I was running or had run my race in vain. That's a man with some serious doubts. That's a man with some serious introspection. That's a man blessed by God because what God is doing is hard pressing him to be sure that it's only his words and his truth. Remember, Jesus said, every branch that bears fruit, what does he do? Um he prunes or trims. Trims it back. So that not there's a nub. If you read how they do that, it's like uh the gardener will trim back to boy. There's a nub. When you look at yourself, when you look at your life, you go, Man, there's nothing there. There's no fruit, there's no growth because it's all been cut back. So he's in a position of being stripped down all the way and doubting his message in order that he might cry out more to God, so that what he preaches. Is it even more pure, more holy, and more in line with the truth and the power of the Holy Spirit? You're telling me Ali Beth Stuckey and all of these people and these women have remotely tasted that scripture and that kind of fear and that kind of confusion? No. Of course not. They didn't even come to Jesus Christ with the gospel message. They didn't even come with the message of the cross. Here's a simple challenge. Go read Even the Demons Believe, and it's free, or you can listen to the audiobook, and you tell me that's how you came to Jesus Christ, and that's what you consider. And that's just the basic fundamentals of starting the whole process of walking with Jesus Christ in a way that will confuse you, crush you, press in on you, persecute you, prosecute you, get rid of you, drive you to the ground, let you fall to the ground and die so that you rise up by his power to produce good fruit. Comments, Jacob? No. How little the church knows about the sufferings of Jesus Christ. This is I might as well just mumble because uh it's not gonna make any sense to them. All right, let's see who Allie Beth Stuckey credits her Christian education for shaping her faith and her debate disk. Her debate skills. Clearly, I don't have any debate skills, do I, Jacob? I guess not. Doesn't really come from God. Play the clip, and it's a little bit long, but let's break it down.
SPEAKER_00The Blaze March 22nd, 2026, years of Christian schooling and church discipleship laid the foundation for her biblical knowledge. Blaze TV host Allie Beth Stuckey credits not only her parents, but her faith-based education from kindergarten through high school with shaping her worldview and skillset. My dad always said that he would do whatever it took, however many hours he had to work, however many shifts he had to work, to make sure my brothers and I attended a Christian school, Stuckey says. I went to the same Christian school from kindergarten through 12th grade. Was it perfect? No, I had some not so great teachers. The culture wasn't always the best. The community wasn't always the best, she continues. I would not trade my education for anything. In addition to the Holy Spirit and my parents, my kindergarten through 12th grade education is responsible for instilling in me the word of God, the ability to memorize it, to defend it, to think logically, to reason, to read, to write, to argue, she explains. That just goes to show how crucial it is to disciple your kids from an early age, because what they learn now, they will keep with them as adults even more than the things they learn as adults, she adds. Stucky points out that after her viral Jubilee debate, she was asked by several people how she prepared herself to take on such a large number of liberals. Yes, it took a lot of practice and preparation and skill experience. Yes, my parents in so many ways prepared me for that just by how they raised me. But also, 13 years of Christian education, a decade of Iwana, eight years of youth group, decades of Sunday school, she explains. You just can't beat the evangelical upbringing when it comes to knowing the Bible, and I am so thankful for it. I use it every single day, she adds. Want more from Ali Beth Stuckey? To enjoy more of Ali's upbeat and in-depth coverage of culture, news, and theology from a Christian conservative perspective, subscribe to Blaze TV, the largest multi-platform network of voices who love America, defend the Constitution, and live the American dream.
SPEAKER_03I am stuck on Stucky because Stucky is stuck on me. I am stuck on Stucky because Stucky is stuck in a rut. I am stuck on Stucky because Stucky is not stuck to the cross. 1 Timothy 1.7. They want to be teachers of the law, but they do not know what they are talking about or what they so confidently affirm. The Consider Podcast.info. Examining today's wisdom, folly and madness.
TimothyYou know, my band-aid stuck on me.
JacobNo, I don't think so.
TimothyNah, you wouldn't have grown up with that. Play that clip, because that's where I'm kind of getting this from. But Ali Beth Stucky's not going to have it, and most people aren't, but it's a cute commercial. I mean, we grew up really being, I'm going to use this in fun, brainwashed to buy Band-Aid. It was effective. It was a nice jingle. Um, go ahead and play that, and then we'll back up and and take care of some of this other stuff.
SPEAKER_10I am stuck, on bands upon me. I am stuck on band-aid sub on me.
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TimothyStucky is stuck on Stucky. I mean, this really, it just fits. When I read that article, it's just nauseating. Yeah. It's all about her. You stick in the Holy Spirit, but it's mixed in there. Because what's the conclusion you draw from what she is saying, Jacob?
JacobThe conclusion is you have to go to, you know, go to church, go to conservative this, go to the Bible school. If you do X, Y, and Z, then you'll be this like amazing Christian.
TimothyAnd it goes worse than really, she's saying, I'm an amazing Christian. My dad did this, it's all family-family. And we're going to look at this here in a moment. And my skill set, my ability to debate, my from kindergarten through high school, you know, the uh the c and in fact she tears down the culture she's giving credit to because why? She wrote above all.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, yeah. Well, you know, there were some things that, you know, but it was amazing.
TimothyI wrote, I went to the same Christian school from kindergarten through 12th. Was it perfect? No. I had some not so great teachers. The culture wasn't always the best, the community wasn't always the best, she continues. Man, talk about a slam of everybody. But I would not trade my education for anything.
JacobWhat?
TimothyYeah. I mean, I'd like to learn from Jesus Christ because he's perfect by because he's complete and so on. And we'll tear this in. She goes, in addition to the Holy Spirit, my parents, my kindergarten, and then she repeats it again through 12th education, is responsible for instilling in me the word of God, the ability to memorize it, to defend it, to think logically, to reason, to read, to write, to argue, she explains. I mean, how many times in every article are we to constantly be told how great she is? Yeah. I mean, do you don't hear Paul anywhere? I, you know, I went to school and I did this and I did that, and I'm a great speaker, and I can do miracles and I can do all these things. There's nowhere she is insane. Again, go to the book and sanity of the church. Better yet, go to Jesus Christ and say, Lord, teach me how Ali Beth Stucky is insane and watch your own life crumble. Yeah. Now, of course, she went to Christian school, right, Jacob? Yes. And now it wasn't the best, which I don't know quite what that means.
JacobYou got any clues on what that would mean? I think because everyone's going to be nitpicky about probably, well, why going to some Christian school is bad. So she's automatically like, well, it's not amazing, but it's better than whatever, whatever.
TimothyWell, I'm guessing it probably has to do with the children around me and the teachers didn't really set the example that I set. But it's a Christian school, so let's just go for that for just a moment, right? Because that that's where everybody should send their kids, correct? Correct. Which means a Christian school is in line with what, Jacob? Uh you would assume the Bible.
JacobThe Bible. In fact, she says that, correct? Um, I don't remember her saying that, but yes, I believe you.
TimothyAh, the word of God, the ability to memorize. I hear what you're saying. Yeah. Which means, of course, right, that there were two systems within the school system. There was two systems? Two systems, one for the men or the boys, and one for the girls, correct?
JacobOh, yeah, like uh segregated classes and dress codes and all that strict stuff.
TimothyKinda, sorta, maybe. Um, you could have had them all in one room, but what you would have is what would you be teaching the boys?
JacobUh, you'd be teaching them like, you know, how to be manly men.
TimothySelf-discipline, sacrificing, holiness, how to repair things, how to take care of the home, how to prepare for a job, how to what? Not look for a girlfriend. Haven't we already seen scripture says if you're unmarried, what should you do? Not seek a wife. So part of the self-discipline would be teaching boys, boys, don't be looking for a girlfriend. Don't be looking for a wife. Don't look. Just seek the holy God, right? I'm sure that's what they were teaching the boys. Uh uh, yeah, I'm sure. No. And then the girls that were sitting in the classroom have no interest in boys whatsoever, right? They're they're not interested in the attention of boys. They're not interested in, you know, you're going to take this is the ironic part. This is where the cross really would be doing some crucifixion because you're teaching the boys not to look for a wife, which means they're totally focused on God and His will. Then you're teaching the girls to be busy at home, to be married, to be a wife. So the girls, I'm sure, in Ali Beth Stuckies all the way through twelfth grade were being taught how to be busy at home, how to be silent, how to mop a floor, how to cook, how to look beautiful without makeup, how to love and serve their husbands, correct? Uh I'm thinking that is not what happened. What? You're meaning the teachers didn't get up and go, today, girls, we're going to learn a little bit more.
JacobGo ahead. Maybe they did, and then that's why she's referencing, you know, some of my teachers weren't very good.
TimothyWell, I'm gonna go with they didn't even know.
JacobI know, but I hear what you're saying. Anyway, no, I don't think they they did any. There was probably, yeah, do they even do like home ec classes at all in school? Even any schools, probably not. Homech, right? This is how you cook this, this is how you like sew. Used to be there was a sewing class. I'll bet you there's no sewing classes in any schools across America.
TimothyWell, you're absolutely correct. I actually went to a time in school when they had those, and it was voluntary, which means the boys didn't sign up. That is extremely rare. Yeah. I can remember there are some discussions of boys who would go, and it was to meet the girls, not to learn to sew and cook and clean. Yeah. Um the teacher stands up there, or better yet, let's let's let's really do this so it it drives it home. The principal comes in, he happens to be a man because he's having authority over the school since a woman's not permitted to have authority over men. He walks in the country and goes, Today, ladies, today, girls, we're going to teach you a lesson in silence. So no matter what the boys say, or no matter what they do, or whatever, or whatever they're talking about, you just sit and remain silent. Now, how do you think that would go over? It would not go over well. But it'd be a great lesson, wouldn't it? The first thing those boys would do is start teasing the girls, which then the principal can come in and go, okay, no, boys, you're to treat women with absolute purity, holiness, and kindness. It would actually work until the government came in and said, you know, you're tormenting people and abusing people and that kind of thing. All right. She goes on to say, Alec Bestalki says, I would not trade my education for anything. Anything. Now think about that, Jacob. Think about that statement. Anything you want to say on that? And she wouldn't trade her education for anything. She loved it. She wouldn't trade it for Jesus Christ, is what she's saying. Play this particular passage, Philippians 3, verse 4, and let's compare it to, and I know this is gonna shock you, Jacob. It doesn't quite jive with what Paul said about his education.
SPEAKER_13From the book of Philippians, chapter 3, verses 4 through 12. Though I myself have reasons for such confidence, if anyone else thinks he has reasons to put confidence in the flesh, I have more. Circumcised on the eighth day of the people of Israel, of the tribe of Benjamin, a Hebrew of Hebrews, in regard to the law, a Pharisee, as for zeal, persecuting the church, as for legalistic righteousness, faultless. But whatever was to my prophet, I now consider loss for the sake of Christ. What is more, I consider everything a loss compared to the surpassing greatness of knowing Christ Jesus my Lord, for whose sake I have lost all things. I consider them rubbish, that I may gain Christ and be found in him, not having a righteousness of my own that comes from the law, but that which is through faith in Christ, the righteousness that comes from God and is by faith. I want to know Christ and the power of his resurrection, and the fellowship of sharing in his sufferings, becoming like him in his death, and so somehow to attain to the resurrection from the dead. Not that I have already obtained all this or have already been made perfect, but I press on to take hold of that for which Christ Jesus took hold of me.
TimothyWhat do you think, Jacob? Does that reflect anything remotely to what Alibeth Stuckey stated? No. And she's preaching and teaching this stuff publicly, defiling women upon women out there. Philippians 3 7. But whatever was to my prophet, I now consider loss for the sake of Christ. She doesn't know anything about the message of the cross that takes everything education, life, righteousness, zeal, he and crucify it. Paul was zealous. He was intelligent. He was legalistic. He was rightless. He was flawless. I am assuming Ali Bestuckey won't state she was flawless, but I'm not so sure about that. He goes on to say in verse 8, what is more, what is more? Let's just keep going. He doesn't just stop there. He doesn't give lip service to this weakness. He goes, what is more? I consider everything a loss compared to the surpassing greatness of knowing Christ Jesus, my Lord. I consider them rubbish that I may gain Christ. And how do you gain Christ? Not by education, not by debate, not by going to Christian school. We're going to see in a moment. That's just stupid talk. It's just stupid talk to sit there and to say that I wouldn't trade that for anything else. As if the implication is everybody should be doing that, correct? Correct. And we're going to look at the cross in relationship to that stupid statement in just a moment. Instead, what does Paul say in Philippians 3 10? I want to know Christ. She probably would say that. But he goes on to say, and the power of his resurrection. They would all say that. Again, when I'm invited to Ali Beth Stuckey's next uh conference, I'm going to go up there and go to the scripture and go, how many want to know Christ? Amen. Hands would go up, right? Yes. How many want to know the resurrection power of Jesus Christ? Amen. Hallelujah. All great speaker. Let's invite him back, right? Mm-hmm. Until I said, and the fellowship of sharing in his sufferings, becoming like him in his death. And so somehow, oh, oh, wait a minute here. Philippians 3 11. Uh, what are we picking up on here, Jacob?
JacobWhat's what state is Paul in? Well, he might be he might be a little unsure. He might be might be a little confused. He might he might not know.
TimothyOh, oh, so you can't walk around with this as surety and this this this confidence. So he he's confused, which comes from the evil one, of course. Philippians 3, 11. And so somehow, you know, that that's a man that doesn't have all the answers. He's confused. Yeah. Somehow to obtain the resurrection from the dead. And then he goes on to talk about his weakness that I haven't already obtained this, haven't already been made complete. But Allie Buckley Beth Allie, Beth Buckley. Stucky. Stucky, thank you. Um is all complete. Oh yeah. She's got to put together. She can debate, she can reason, she can think logically. Let me let me quote her again. I would not trade my education for anything, in addition to the Holy Spirit, in addition, and my parents, my kindergarten through twelfth grade education, is responsible for instilling in me the word of God, the ability to memorize it, to defend it, to think logically, to reason, to write, to argue. Oh Jacob, have you ever met a woman that doesn't know how to argue?
JacobI think they all know. Well, some of them don't know how to argue well, but yeah, they all have uh they all know how.
TimothyWell, you you're actually more trivial. They don't know how to argue without deception. Okay, yeah. A lot of people argue. Yeah, yeah. There's just no truth to what's going on. Correct. And that's and let me emphasize that. Let's go back to her quote because she's patting herself on the back, because people come to her. She's so intelligent, she's so smart. Can you imagine Jacob? Can you imagine me in a sermon? Or anywhere going. I can't even hardly do it. Jacob. Yes. I'm so smart. Yes. I I can debate. I I can can you fill in any of those blanks? Yeah.
JacobI'm amazing. All you gotta say is, I am amazing. You should listen to what I say.
TimothyAll right. So uh let me take my breath because clearly I'm getting worked up. All right. She goes on to say that, of course, this shows how crucial it is to disciple your kids. There's nothing in here about being discipled by Jesus in relationship to suffering with Jesus Christ, right? Now it goes on to say, quote, Stuckey points out that after her viral Jubilee debate, she was asked by several people how she prepared herself to take on such a large number of liberals.
JacobWhat do you think about that, Jacob? Um I don't know anything about this Jubilee debate, but uh yeah, we can assume that Allie was not leaning on the actual Holy Spirit for this debate, as she clearly says, right? It's like all these other things are what has prepared her.
TimothyYou are absolutely correct, except I had to ask, is she joking? Like, how hard is it to win a debate over a nine-year-old? Oh, yeah, sure. I mean, liberals think like a nine-year-old. It's all emotion. Yes. We we as you discuss with people, and I'm not going to mention particular political names, but when you talk to a true liberal, you're you're not into reasoning territory. Correct. No, there's not reasoning at all. That's that's why our legal system is breaking down and our juries are coming in with some horrendous conclusions because it's all about feelings. But winning a debate or winning over a jury pool of nine-year-olds is not difficult. That'd be like me coming in and you know, I talk to somebody's kids or whatever, and win, oh, I won. I won. Your kid was nine years old, he's ten years old, I especially the the little girl, I was able to really crush her in her debate. I really, how hard is it to take down liberals?
SPEAKER_11Not too hard. Winning a debate with a nine-year-old child. Children begin to develop reasoning skills during the pre-operational stage of cognitive development, which Jean Piaget identified as occurring between the ages of two and seven years. During this stage, children start using language and symbols and begin to think about things beyond immediate sensory experiences, laying the foundation for more complex reasoning. However, while reasoning begins to emerge, emotions and egocentric thinking still dominate decision making. Logical thought is limited, and children often base judgments on intuition rather than cause and effect logic. Between the ages of five and nine, children engage in everyday reasoning rooted in sensory experiences, but they are not yet capable of formal logical analysis. True logical and abstract reasoning typically develops later during the formal operational stage, which begins around age twelve. Thus, from approximately ages two to eleven, children are in a transitional phase where reasoning begins to form but is frequently overridden by emotions, egocentrism, and impulse. In summary, while teens can reason logically, real logical brain development, where reasoning consistently guides behavior, is not complete until the early to mid thirties, when the prefrontal cortex and neural network supporting executive function fully mature.
Sing O Barren Woman And Family Idols
TimothyAll right. Any comments before we kind of do the next little section? No. Okay, this is all kind of weaving together. You might be confused. You might be confused. I'm kind of jumping around because she says a lot in there. I mean, I appreciate the sermon material, but it gets all like, okay, that's sin, then where do we go for that? And there's a sermon here, and I can break that down. Oh, oh, do I have the ability to think logically, Jacob? Yes. Wow. The only difference is I depend on Jesus Christ, where Paul says, May words be given to me when I open my mouth to preach the gospel. I don't give credit to my education. I don't give credit to, and I don't give credit to myself on anything that I've done. It's all rubbish. The only thing that matters is that I participate in the death of Jesus Christ, that the resurrection of Jesus Christ might show in this jar of clay that he is worthy of all glory, honor, praise, and wisdom. That said, Jacob, what is the most unsung song in the church? You never hear it sung. You never hear it played. There's no Christian singer that has sung this song in our generation.
JacobOh, never sung. So Keith Green never sang this song?
TimothyNo, unfortunately he didn't, and I would have set him straight. Right. Anyway, um, nope, he didn't sing it, didn't get there, didn't get close. Nobody has sung it or written it. I don't know.
JacobYou don't know. Why possible? I haven't heard the song if nobody's been singing it.
TimothyWell, it it it's uh let's go into the song, and I'm hausing to give people a chance to think this is a song that God has commanded to be sung. And I'm sure Ali Beth Stuckey's conferences sing this song. Right? Sure. If it's a women's conference, they must. They are not only did God command it, he commanded in the Old Testament and and he commanded it in the New Testament. And I'm sure the Christian school from kindergarten on up sang this song, right?
JacobYeah, from a young surely this Christian school she went to, yeah.
TimothyBecause they're a Christian school and they're Bible-based, right? Yes. Well, let's listen to the song that these women, because it's directed to women. Now the women would have coverings on, the women would have children, the women would be coming to these conferences, some might be even grandmothers, and this is the song that God commanded them to sing, and they joyfully, joyfully sing it.
SPEAKER_03God commands some women to sing. God bids these women to burst into song. God enjoins a select group of women to shout for joy. It's easy to obey. It's a joyful commandment, but no one sings it anymore. The joyful command is found in the book of Isaiah and Galatians. Isaiah 54, 1. Sing, O barren women, you who never bore a child, burst into song, shout for joy, you are never in labor, because more are the children of the desolate woman than of her who has a husband, says the Lord. Galatians 4, 26 and 27. But the Jerusalem that is above is free, and she is our mother, for it is written, Be glad, O barren woman who bears no children. Break forth and cry aloud, you who have no labor pains, because more are the children of the desolate woman than of her who has a husband. The Consider Podcast.
TimothyHave you ever heard this song sung? Uh no. Or even the scripture mentioned, let alone singing a song. Uh no. You know, the church really needs to get a grasp and a handle that God and Jesus did not come to bless your family. Let me repeat that. Jesus did not come to bless your family. In fact, Jesus said he came to divide families, right? Jesus came to bless his family, God's family. Has nothing to do with your grandmother, your genealogy, your group of people, those who you show associate with. That whom you call family, God did not come to bless, unless you define blessing as dividing up a family, which I do. It's joyful to see God come in, not because I'm obnoxious or I like to divide people. I mean, I want every family and all members of that family to come to Jesus Christ. But it is a pleasure, it is a joy in the Lord to watch the Word of God come in and just divide up who loves Him and who doesn't. Isaiah 54, verse 1, sing, O barren woman. Ever heard the barren women sing? No. It seems to me this is a straight commandment. You who never bore a child, burst into song. Burst into it. We have to get very sober here. Most children are not going to come to Jesus Christ. Now that that that's all that's a terrifying thought for most fathers and mothers if they even contemplate it, right? It's certainly very serious. And it takes falling in love with Jesus Christ that you actually rejoice with that. Let me word it to you this way. Your neighbor next door that it's not family. Whether he goes to hell hell or not is not like this gut-turning thing. You don't really see that in the church. But if we suggest that our little Johnny and Susie will be sent to hell, then all hell in the home breaks out that we don't like what we're hearing. And yet we're to show no favoritism that we should have the same joy as if Johnny comes to the Lord or God sends him to hell. That should be our love for Jesus Christ. Boy, that's going to get me invited everywhere, isn't it Jacob? Sing O Barren Women, you who never bore a child, burst into song. Shout for joy. So can you imagine this conference with Alibeth Stuckey and all of these women are there? I don't know how many barren women would be there, but she would say, okay, everybody that doesn't have children that are barren, stand up now and begin to sing over all these other mothers and grandmothers here, that you never had a child, that you never went into labor. Sing over them because more are the children of the desolate woman, that is, women that have children that are going to hell, far more are those than he, than she who has a husband. And then what's he referring to there is the husband is Jesus Christ. That's why you'll read in Luke 14, 26, it doesn't say hate your husband. It says hate father, mother, brother, and sister, and so on and so forth, because the husband is Jesus Christ. Don't have time to break that down. It's offensive enough. Galatians 4.26, it repeats the same thing. But the Jerusalem that is above is free. And she is our mother. For it is written, be glad, O barren woman who bears no children. Break forth and cry aloud. Do you hear Beth Allie Beth Stucky? You know, does she have to have all three of her names up there? Is she that? Like, yeah, I'm Timothy so-and-so, and you know, attack on all this stuff. Whatever. For it is written, be glad, O barren woman who bears no children, break forth and cry aloud, you have no labor pains, because more are the children of the desolate woman than her who has a husband. More are the children that are far more going to hell that will betray you to the death. Do you think Ali Bestucke is preparing mothers and fathers for their children to put them to death? No. No preparation for that. No seriousness about it. We would take far more serious our quote-unquote discipleship. We wouldn't just be turning it over to Christian schools and so on and so forth. Play the next scriptures or play the next clip here, and let's talk about the fact that what is coming upon the world is your child, Johnny or Susie or whatever their name is. Odds are. Odds are, if you are a betting man, if you were in Las Vegas, or you're doing whatever, the odds are that child will turn you in, will betray you, will desert you if you remain firm to Jesus Christ.
End Times Betrayal Inside The Home
SPEAKER_03First comes lust. Second comes debased marriage. Third comes mama going her way. Here comes daddy pushing a baby carriage. Here comes mama collecting alimony. Here come rebellious children. Proverbs 14.1. The wise woman builds her house, but with her own hands the foolish one tears hers down. Mark 13.12. Brother will betray brother to death and a father his child. Children will rebel against their parents and have them put to death. The Consider Podcast.info. Examining today's wisdom, folly, and madness.
TimothyThere's always a lot of talk about we're in the end times, the end war, the prophecy of this, right? And the Christians supposedly are looking to this with great joy, eagerness, right?
JacobMm-hmm.
TimothyWell, man, where is the serious prayer and seeking God? Think about a father will betray his children to the death. This isn't just children rebelling against parents. We see that going on, even among Christian families. They don't, there's no real self-discipline. It's all mushy-gushy kind of thing. I call them vegetarian Christians. They grew up on veggie tales. Children will rebel against their parents and have them put to death. Brother will betray brother to death. Really, there's this soberness out there when we talk about the end times. No. Everybody's caught up in wars breaking out here and this is going on over here and what Trump's doing and what's going on. And is the temple going to be built? What are some of the other issues, Jacob? Uh, that's a lot of them.
JacobWill uh the dollars. The market of the beast, yeah, the beast, digital cryptocurrencies. It goes on and on and on.
TimothyBut the incerted in that is no serious discussion about am I a father that will turn my children in? I mean, it's easy to say these things when, oh, what's the price of oil and what what are we gonna do with peace and there's war in Israel? When we're not in Israel, when we can still get plenty to eat, when our idea of discomfort is just a lot of inconvenient things in our way right now. But when when it really gets pushed down upon us, when that contest becomes clear between those who really know their God and those who don't, it's going to become dramatic to say the least, to watch a father turn his child in to be killed. Or a brother to say, I betray you to the death. We already see symptoms of that again with children rebelling against their parents. A lot of the parents don't even realize they're rebelling because it's like there's not really any seriousness about how to raise children. There's no first of all, the women are not together in the home talking about, well, how do we raise our children? Some children are more problem areas than others. And that's no guarantee they're actually going to come to Jesus Christ. Yeah. It just means you're not a party to their death. Any thoughts on that? It's very sobering. I don't want to go over it too fast. Um that can you imagine a banner at Ali Bestucky's conference that your child will put you to death? Consider that your child might put you to death. First of all, the denial would be huge. No, no, no, not my, you know, Saint Susie. Um, not Johnny jumping for righteousness. No, he would never do that.
JacobYou know, in some ways, uh, you know, the husbands have already put their children to death by raising them how they're raising them. I know it's not the physical death right now, because we know in the end times it'll continue to get worse and worse. But you know what I mean? Like fathers have already just you send your kid out there and you do your own thing, and like your kid is already on a path to hell, that's for sure.
TimothyYou bring up a very good point, and part of that problem is the church is not preaching the message of the cross or the narrow road, so there's no revelation happening, there's no blindness being exposed. Because what people should be hearing when they go to church is what we're going with right now. And that that pulls the blinders off if you're really confronted by the truth, if you're presented to a Jesus who will deal with your blindness and really heal you, correct? Correct. All right. You remember she gave um credit to her education, her parents, everything, all this outward type. This is why everybody should send their child to a Christian school in a Christian environment, have a Christian home, and everything just be this. Obviously, in her mind, righteousness, holiness, and that would create a debating woman that was able to lead conferences, right? Yes. Take on the liberals of this world. Yeah. Really? So again, we're looking at there's no well, what about God's will? What about God's power? Meaning it doesn't matter what environment you're in, if God lays hold of you, you will be given his rights, and he knows exactly what environment to put you in. Wasn't Joseph sold into captivity? Yes. All right, so he's in captivity, he's in a foreign land. I mean, he had a basis there, right? But his schooling, his education and suffering was in a prison cell by being tempted. Let me give you a better example because some people will go, well, you know, he kind of grew up with the patriarch, he kind of grew up, you know, with that mindset. Go ahead and play this next clip, and then we're gonna talk about the foolishness of this whole concept that it's clearly God's will that you should have this whole environment and any other thought would send you into what word, Jacob? Confusion. Confusion. And we know the enemy is the one that causes confusion. By the way, Eve wasn't confused. No. There was no confusion about what she was told. And she she repeated it back to the serpent. Yeah, he did say, and blah, blah, blah, and doctrinally it was correct. All the serpent said was, Well, you won't die. He just contradicted it. Go ahead and uh play this next verse, and then we're gonna talk about um terrible fathers.
SPEAKER_11Second Corinthians chapter eleven, verses sixteen through thirty-three. I repeat, let no one take me for a fool, but if you do, then receive me just as you would a fool, so that I may do a little boasting. In this self-confident boasting I am not talking as the Lord would, but as a fool. Since many are boasting in the way the world does, I too will boast. You gladly put up with fools since you are so wise. In fact, you even put up with anyone who enslaves you or exploits you or takes advantage of you or pushes himself forward or slaps you in the face. To my shame, I admit that we were too weak for that. What anyone else dares to boast about, I am speaking as a fool, I also dare to boast about. Are they Hebrews? So am I. Are they Israelites? So am I. Are they Abraham's descendants? So am I servants of Christ? I am out of my mind to talk like this. I am more. I have worked much harder, been in prison more frequently, been flogged more severely, and been exposed to death again and again. Five times I received from the Jews the forty lashes minus one. Three times I was beaten with rods, once I was stoned, three times I was shipwrecked. I spent a night and a day in the open sea. I have been constantly on the move. I have been in danger from rivers, in danger from bandits, in danger from my own countrymen, in danger from Gentiles, in danger in the city, in danger in the country, in danger at sea, and in danger from false brothers. I have labored and toiled and have often gone without sleep. I have known hunger and thirst and have often gone without food. I have been cold and naked. Besides everything else, I face daily the pressure of my concern for all the churches. Who is weak and I do not feel weak? Who is led into sin and I do not inwardly burn? If I must boast, I will boast of the things that show my weakness. The God and Father of the Lord Jesus, who is to be praised for ever, knows that I am not lying. In Damascus the governor under King Aretas had the city of the Damascenes guarded in order to arrest me, but I was lowered in a basket from a window in the wall and slipped through his hands.
TimothyContrast that with Ali Beth Stuckey's boasting, Jacob, she's not even in the neighborhood. Again, I'm saying this on love. Ali Beth Stuckey needs to repent, as clearly does her family and other people. They have totally missed the cross of Jesus Christ. They are not being discipled by Jesus Christ. Let me give you one example. Clearly, she credits her goodness to her environment, her education, being in public schools, so her mom, dad, well, I don't know, she didn't really quite credit her mom. Um, her dad, all these outs outward things helped her to be able to win a debate against what, Jacob?
JacobThe liberals.
TimothyThe liberals. So when Paul is quoting, I won a debate against the liberals, I beat the Pharisees and said, There's no mention of that. No. This is not a contest to beat anybody in a debate. He talks about, yeah, God was really with me. He I was in a basket because I was going to be arrested and I slipped out of their hands. People would be bored. If I went to a conference and said, Yeah, I escaped by getting in a basket and running away from the authorities, and that's a miracle from God, would not everybody just respond like, what is this insane man talking about? That's not impressive at all, right?
JacobYeah.
TimothyWell, that's why the church is taken in with a lot of foolish stories. Anyway, let's go to 1 Samuel chapter 3, verse 13. Because there's a woman who was barren, um, and Hannah prayed to the God to have her get pregnant, which she did, and she vowed that she would give that child over to the templary, which would be Eli. Only problem is Eli was a terrible environment, a vastly bad school. Read first Samuel chapter 3, verse 13, Jacob.
JacobFor I told him that I would judge his family forever because of the sin he knew about. His sons made themselves contemptible, and he failed to restrain them.
Hannah Surrenders Samuel To God
TimothyWouldn't you say that he obviously was a very bad father? Uh yes. The judgment is severe. And this is God talking, for I told him that I would judge his family. What's the word there, Jacob? Forever. Forever. I consider that a pretty serious indictment against one's sin. For I told him that I would judge his family forever because of the sin he knew about, which is failing to restrain his sons. His sons made themselves contemptible and he failed to restrain them. So he spoils children. This is who she's going to turn the child over to. This is who's going to become Samuel. Is the environment good? No. Is the environment healthy? No. Is the environment that he's being shown how to be obedient? No. No. But somehow God is able to create a Samuel. That's because it's not dependent upon. Upon these outward circumstances. In fact, God's power is not made complete. Give me any time somebody that's been in a miserable situation, growing up with outparents or multiple parents or stepparents and all kinds of things that go on. But the word of God, Jesus Christ, the living word of God, comes in and sweeps in upon them, totally transforms the person. Give me that kind of individual to fellowship, to love, to be in a relationship. Verse, let's go to 1 Samuel chapter 1, verse 11. Let's back up and read it so people can at least know they might be confused, but I'm not making it up. 1 Samuel chapter 1, verse 11. And let's keep in mind, this is literally like you getting ready to have a child and say, Lord, I'm going to have a child. It's going to grow and be weaned, and I don't know how long that would be. Let's just say three years. But you clearly get attached to the child, right?
JacobYeah. Weaned is uh probably a year, a year and a half.
TimothyYeah, and I'm not debating you. I don't really know because this is Bible time.
JacobSo yeah, but you're attached to the child regardless. Well, wean is no longer breastfed.
TimothyYou love the child, you're devoted to the child, the hormones are all there, whatever you want to break down, it's would be a very, very difficult thing to know this about. She had to know this is all going on. People aren't stupid, and to turn that child over at that age, and that child will never leave that home. It's not like there'll be a vacation time or come home to visit mom or anything else like that. That's rough stuff. Yeah. Or to rephrase it in the way it should be, that's glorious faith in a God who's able to overcome any circumstance. It would be literally like you having a child and a year and a half saying, We're going to give this child up to adoption. You don't know where it's going, or maybe it's even going to a bad situation. It's literally like having a child and going, Okay, God, I devote this child to go to public school. I mean, if you came to me with that, I'd be okay, hang on, Jacob, before you do that, uh, consider the value. I mean, there would be a lot of caution going on, don't get me wrong. But it I'm trying to give us a perspective here of what's going on. It it's literally like giving, in a divorce situation, custody of a child to a drunkard of a husband or a bitching wife or whatever, and trusting God to deal and bring them to him. And by the way, let me let me kind of interject here that when you go to divorce court, there's these huge battles that go on to who gets the kids, and of course, usually it's the man that's vilified in the whole bit. That there really has to come a point of surrender where you surrender that child or children to the Lord, knowing that God is able to work if they're going to love him, he'll pull them. He'll bring them to him. Now, what happens is our selfishness wants to hold on to the children. Our idolatry, a family, wants to hold on to the children, and there's never that surrendered faith. It's not the faith of Abraham that sacrifices our children. In other words, when I say sacrifice, we not really trusting our children to God. What we want to do is trust God to keep our children comfortable so that we can love them. We don't want to give them up.
JacobWhere are we at, Jacob? First Samuel 11. Thank you. Go ahead and read it. And she made a vow saying, O Lord Almighty, if you will look upon your servant's misery and remember me and not forget your servant, but give her a son, then I will give him to the Lord for all the days of his life, and no razor will ever be used on his head.
TimothySo she vows that, and by the way, uh Eli assumes she's drunk. So she's she's and he comes to her and goes, Like woman, why are you being drinking so early in the day? And she goes, Oh, I haven't been drinking. That's who she's gonna turn this child over to, someone who slanders her character, who has zero spiritual insight into the kind of woman that's in the temple of the Lord. Yeah. All right. First Samuel chapter one, verse twenty-two. Go ahead and read that.
JacobOne verse twenty-two. Hannah did not go. She said to her husband, After the boy is weaned, I will take him and present him before the Lord, and he will live there always.
TimothyAnd I'm saying this tongue in cheek, and the husband responds with, Well, we'll do whatever, whatever you think's best. Yeah. I know, yeah.
JacobHe wasn't concerned for his own son, but anyways.
TimothyYeah, I yeah, I hate it.
JacobEven though he already had other sons and daughters because he had other wives, I think, or women.
Girls Gone Bible And Spouse Obsession
TimothyI'm not gonna explain the husband logic. I don't know. I'm just I'm just making note that we're not always what we should be. Yeah. Uh but again, she's holding on to the child, she's breastfeeding the child, and she goes in prison, and she knows what's going on. By this time, you'd start most of us would start fudging on the vow. Oh, yeah. You'd try to get out of it. Oh, yeah. Or, well, Lord, I'll take him every Sunday. Well, it would have been Sabbath. I'll take him every Sabbath for Sabbath school. Um, I'll volunteer more at the Christian school. We'd start fudging on the whole thing. Uh, to her credit, she surrenders, her faith is complete, and we have the book of Samuel and all the good he brought to Israel and the example he set, correct? Correct. So much Ali Beth stucky for your education. And go up there and encourage all those women. Hey, turn your children into some rough situations, but trust the Lord. There goes your ratings. All right, we're finally, finally gonna get to Girls Gone Bible. Now, I'm not gonna break this, spend hours on it because everything that I've said about Ali Beth Stuckey and all that applies to them. Let's go to Girls Gone Bible and let's play their clip where they're talking about how cute it is to pray about a future husband.
SPEAKER_17A lot of girls pray um for their husband as in like they pray for their husband as if they know their husband. Like they're like, God, protect them, Lord, like be with them, um, comfort them wherever they are, bless them. And so that's something really important that even if you're not dating anyone, to start praying about your husband or wife because they're out there, they're alive somewhere. And sometimes I've had the sweet thought, obviously, I'm not married or have like whatever. I have thought so many times, I wonder if like the the the sovereign hand of God on my life. Imagine I marry into like a really beautiful Christian family where the guy that I marry prayed for his wife his whole life, um, his parents, because a lot of Christian parents pray for their children's spouse since they're babies. And I've had the thought before, like, you know how God has rescued me and like protected me when I was so far from him. I always wonder if like my husband and his parents' prayers protected me a lot in my life, which is just like kind of a cute thought.
JacobIsn't that cute? Isn't that cute, Jacob? That's so cute. What is it? You can only understand even half of it because it's all over the place. Wow.
TimothyIt's a romance novel.
unknownYeah.
TimothyIt's idolatry. Sweet, it's cute. So let's never mind. Is she praying, Lord, send me a man that's willing to be crushed by you, a man that's willing to be crucified you, a man that's willing to be confused, help me? You know, the whole emphasis is upon the husband, not upon like it takes a persevering woman in Jesus Christ, dead to herself, to stand by a man that is being disciplined or let's even just drop the word discipline, you know, glorifying God. Do you not think Job would have been happier with a better wife? Uh yeah. She's not praying, Lord, send me a Job and make me worthy that I won't call upon him to curse his life. Well, let's go to 1 Timothy chapter 5, verse 11, because the prayers are just all over the place, and let's learn a lesson. If they man, just stop praying for your future husband, stop focusing, and that's just temporary. There are no like husband-wife relationships in heaven. There are people that love Jesus Christ. We are the bride of Christ, but we're not given to marriage. Like all of that, there's no cuteness going on up there. It's all holiness and love. First Timothy chapter 5, verse 11, Jacob read it and teach her a lesson.
JacobAs for younger widows, do not put them on such a list. For when their sensual desires overcome their dedication to Christ, they want to marry.
TimothyOkay, what's it saying there, Jacob? What what what are they betraying? What are they giving up? What's what are they doing without saying they no longer want? They no longer want Christ. Think about that. As for younger widows, do not put them on such a list. This has to do with food and that kind of thing. For when their sensual desires overcome their dedication to Christ, they want to marry. They bring judgment on themselves because they have what? Forsaken their first pledge. That's what first Timothy chapter 5, verse 12. Go ahead and read that again, Jacob, and let these women contemplate what's going on here.
JacobThus they bring judgment on themselves because they have broken their first pledge.
TimothyWhat's not being taught out there among women is that their first pledge is to Jesus Christ. Their dependence is not upon a man, nor how faithful or unfaithful he is. Their dependence is fully upon Jesus Christ, who will become their husband if they remain faithful. That's the first pledge. Which is very freeing, and I don't have time to go into all of that. No longer do you have to have this, well, I need this one, this man doing this, and I need to be he needs to be structured like this, and he needs to be a godly man, and it needs to be this blessing of this family. I mean, she's describing heaven, really. You know, a whole family that loves God and a man that loves God according to her definition of what that means. I mean, that's fairy tale talk. Says they thus bring judgment on themselves because they have broken their first pledge. It goes on to say I don't have talk about being confused because he says younger widows want to marry, which is wrong, right? So what he counsels them to do is to get married before they want to get married. Oh, is that a little confusing? A little confusing. And doesn't that certainly take leadership with a great deal of wisdom that would have the insight in the Lord to go to a younger widow and to say, look, you need to get married before you want to get married. So you're you're advising a woman to get married who could turn to you and say, But I don't want to get married. Boy, wouldn't King County prosecutors go ballistic for that kind of thing. They sure would. And the younger widow would testify, Yeah, I didn't want to get married, but Timothy Williams told me I should get married, but I didn't want to get married. Well, and they'd have a heyday with that. It's called persecution, prosecution because of holiness and righteousness. Anything more I need to say on that before I go to the next particular scripture, Jacob? No. Let's go to 1 Corinthians chapter 7, verse 27, because somebody will say, well, that's not the context. The context was a widow, a younger widow. 1 Corinthians chapter 7, verse 27. This was taught in every Christian school, right? Every kindergarten, from kindergarten up, the high school, the middle school. 1 Corinthians 7, 27 says, Are you married? Well, don't seek a divorce. Well, they all come in saying that, whether that takes place or not by these Christian women. Couldn't tell you that. But here's the next commandment that is clear, that is solid, that it's in context. There's no confusion about it. Is there, Jacob? No. Let me have you read that part of this passage that is not confusing, that is clear, that clearly these Bible girls are presenting, right?
JacobGo ahead and read it. Are you unmarried? Do not look for a wife.
TimothyWhoa, don't look for a wife, which means a wife wouldn't be on the hunt either, right? Correct. What good would it be for a single woman to keep presenting herself to Christian men who are not looking for a wife? Because why? The woman that is a Christian woman is married to who? Jesus Christ. She already has a husband. Is that clear in scripture? That is clear. All right, then from that would flow. Obviously, marriage would happen. Because scriptures, the scripture they always quote is, you know, that the husbands are to love their wives. Yeah. And no, we got that. But if you don't have the foundation of the cross to start here, the love of Jesus Christ is not going to be in that marriage. You can't skip the offense of the cross and somehow have the resurrected life. Let me repeat that. You cannot have the resurrected life without the cross. And that's what these Ali Bestuckies and Bible girls and everybody are presenting. They're just removing the offense of the cross, the actual death part of the cross that puts us to death, and presenting us a gospel without the sufferings of Jesus Christ. The two go hand in hand. Let's go to Ephesians chapter 5, verse 25. It says, husband, love your wives, just as Christ loved the church and gave himself up for her. They will all quote that. That's all proper. That's all good. We could do a whole lesson on it. But look at what verse 26 says. To make her holy. While the Bible girls are praying for their future husband, right? To be the certain way, right? Nowhere in Scripture do you find God saying, now, women, pray for the husband that you're about to get that he'll be holy. Nowhere. But what you do see, and we're going to see here in a moment, is that what is a husband to do to make her holy? To consider what does he have to bring in to remove the deception, to teach her how to love him, to love the children. She's in a position where she needs to be taught these things. It's not the other way around. These women need to pray that they share that they would be worthy to listen and to learn from whomever the husband is God brings in their life. Ephesians 5 26, to make her holy, cleansing her by washing with water through the Word. Was there anything about Alibeth Stucky or Bible girls? Yeah, my husband really came in with the Word of God and he began to show me things I've never seen before, and he began to take away all the deception that I had accumulated by reading scripture by my own power. Any of that? No, none of that. None of that. Because she's complete. I don't know. I don't want to say who the husband is. He's clearly the girly man of the house. If he can't outmaneuver her, he's not in tune with the Jesus Christ and with the Holy Spirit and the Word of God. She's below the liberal. She's deceived by just a whole world of things. I'm back on her again. But the same thing with the Bible. They look the same, they talk the same. It's the same mocking message over and over again. It's all blessing. It's so cute. The gospel is not cute. The gospel is heaven or hell carrying around the body of Jesus Christ that we might have the resurrection of Jesus Christ. A husband's duty, once he is convinced, or the scripture says if you're too weak, you need to marry, go ahead and do that. I'm not going to break that down for now. There should be, I'm not going to break it down now. Stop me, Jacob. Ephesians 5.26, to make her holy, cleansing her by washing with water through the word. In other words, the bride that he gets when he's standing up there should see, man, she's filthy. She's dirty. She doesn't have the word of God. They ought to be able to look at any woman and go, I've got to deal with this deception and these sins and all the things she's taken in. We need to bring the emotions under control. There needs to be this authority. There needs to be the undoing of the fall in the Garden of Eden. Man, that's a lot of work, isn't it? And that's why you don't find too many husbands actually getting dirty to clean her up, to make her holy. That takes a lot of wisdom and a lot of effort and a lot of love and a lot of perseverance. Doesn't always go for a happy marriage. Do we understand that? This isn't about happiness. Yeah, I love it when people say he died happy, doing what he'd like to do. Okay, well, fine. He's gliding off clips and he dies, and you say that's a good thing because he was happy, because he was doing what he was doing.
SPEAKER_06Yeah.
Oscars Praise And Conservative Idolatry
TimothyThis is not happiness. This is picking up a cross, denying self, following Jesus Christ, being persecuted, being cleansed with the word, rejoicing always in all circumstances, going through all the things you have to go through in order to save or put your children at least in a position where they can cry out to God. That's all extremely hard work. That's why we find in our own culture women don't want to have children. It tears the body down. It takes away your time. They get bored. All the things that ungodly, unholy women who do not press through to get the righteousness of Christ will say. Right? Right. And the evidence obviously is the population is dropping off because why? They don't want to play. You know, the you'll see plenty of YouTubes that go, Well, what do you bring to the table? They'll ask the woman. Well, me. You know, okay, goddess, uh, let's just clean up that stain. Ephesians 5 27, and to present her to himself as a radiant church. You see, it's all about the church. It's about Jesus Christ's bride without stain or wrinkle or any other blemish, but holy and blameless. Now, wait a minute here. This is what the husband is supposed to do to the wife. So these conferences should be talking about how women can put themselves in a position of holy submission and love for their husbands, no matter what those husbands are doing, because they're seeking to get rid of every stain and every wrinkle or any blemish. You know, if women come in and go and they show you a dress, right? And they go, How do I look in this? And they expect you to lie and say, Well, you look fine, or no, you haven't gained weight, right? What are they gonna do with a true godly man who comes in and says, Man, you got a stain. You got a wrinkle over here. Or, or, uh-oh, there's a blemish on the back you can't see. And we're not just gonna clean up the stain and the wrinkle or blemish, we're not gonna use makeup to do that. We're gonna get you on the cross of Jesus Christ to be crucified to your sinful nature, to make you holy and blameless. Blameless. That's the duty, the job, the effort. That's what a husband should be doing. And obviously, is he setting example of what he should do? Of course he is. Do we see it talked about, Jacob? Do we see it going on? All right. All right, let's finally do the Oscars. Are you still with me, Jacob? Because we're going really long today. Hopefully, my energy's you know, still carrying through. All right, let's go to the Western Journal. Let's just play the way. Because Alibustuckey and I I think Bible Girls also, they like the Oscars because one woman that won the Oscar talked about the fact that motherhood is this great adventure that's going on. It's an amazing thing. Um Go ahead and play this particular clip. This is who the Western Journal is, and there there's a lot of them like it. I'm just pointing out the fact that it's this conservative traditional Christian value kind of thing. Go for it.
SPEAKER_15Faith. At the Western Journal, faith is a guiding principle that influences the ethos, culture, and actions of the organization based on the teachings and beliefs of the Bible. This value influences how we treat our community of subscribers, readers, viewers, and followers. It guides us in our business practices, pursuing truth, and upholding traditional values. We believe in seeking God's guidance and wisdom through a culture of prayer. Colossians chapter 3, verse 17 tells believers, whatever you do, in word or deed, do everything in the name of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks to God the Father through him. End quote.
TimothyReal quickly, this is all the typical, it's a law, it's a legalism, it's a likable legalism. I mean, they certainly say seek God in all things, but really what they've laid out is certain principles, concepts, and laws, just like you're turning Jesus Christ, turning the grace of God into a conservative value. For example, this is just one example. They talk about rejecting racism in all forms, correct? Huh. Well, let's go to Titus chapter one, verse twelve. Racism is bad, it is evil. And what is racism? Now we can get into Picketers, is looking at a whole group of people and tacking on certain behaviors and what they are, right? Well, that's exactly what Paul commends and talks about. Titus chapter 1, actually back up to verse 11 there, Jacob. He's talking about the uh the Cretans. He goes, they must be silenced because they are ruining whole households by teaching things they ought not to teach. And that for the sake of dishonest gain. Look at that. Titus chapter 1, verse 12. Even one of their own prophets have said, Cretans are always liars, evil brutes, and lazy gluttons. This testimony is true. Now I'm not even going to retranslate that into um current talk, but it would be literally like I said, yeah, this group of people are always liars, evil brutes, and lazy gluttons, and that's a truth that comes from Jesus Christ. Technically, what the Western Journal is saying is they reject Paul's comment about that because wouldn't that qualify as racism? Yes.
JacobYou can't call people out like that.
TimothyNo, not certainly a whole group of race of people. Never mind. Jesus did the same thing to the Pharisees, the Sadducees, there are whole groups of people. Um, all right. So let's get on to the Oscars. In fact, Jacob, at this point, you might want to clip in the intro we had two podcasts back ago that introduced this whole Oscar thing. I'm not going to play it now, but you you can stick it in there. All right, read or play the From Western Stuns Wave.
SPEAKER_15From the Western Journal, title of article, watch Best Actress Winner Stuns with powerful pro-family Oscar's acceptance speech. Start quote. Either way, those of us who did not watch the show missed a spectacular moment when Irish actress Jesse Buckley, after winning the Oscar for Best Actress in a Leading Role for her portrayal of Agnes Shakespeare in the 2025 film Hamnet, delivered a peon to family and motherhood. End quote.
TimothyIt's clearly idolatry. Is Hollywood known for its purity? Uh no. And yet she just happens to make mention of her mother, and because oh, it's pro-family. That's what happens when you live by rules rather than by the holiness of Jesus Christ entering your life. Make sense?
JacobYeah.
TimothyAll right, we're gonna come back to Ali Beth Stuckey. She was it caught her attention. You see the webpage there, Jacob. Read the title for everybody.
Jacob2026 Oscar speeches were predictable as ever until this one caught Ali Beth Stuckey's attention.
TimothyGlad she was watching that, right? Spending her time on watching the Oscars, uh, because we'd never know that something caught her attention. Yeah. What caught her attention was that this actress gave credit to her mother and to family. Let's go ahead and play this particular clip of her accepting that. And I want you to notice what this particular actress states.
SPEAKER_00And the Oscar goes to Jesse Butler.
SPEAKER_01This is the first Oscorland and the second nomination for Jesse Butler. Previously, she was nominated for the supporting woman in the last daughter.
TimothyI guess I should be um company with my mom. It's live from ABC. She gets the Oscar, and here we go. We get to listen to her wisdom. Worldly wisdom.
SPEAKER_09Wow. Um thank you so much. This is really something. Um thank you to the incredible women that I stand beside. I am inspired by your art and your heart, and I want to work with every single one of you.
TimothyOkay, pause it right there, Jacob. Who does she give credit for? The women. Now she will mention the men, but they're like kind of down the road here. Let me read to you, and then we'll finish playing this, what Ali Beth Stuckey said. She goes, quote, well, obviously, it's clearly obviously, Beth is saying, Beth Stuckey, being a mom and accomplishing these things is possible at the same time. She's commending this. Yeah. Like Hollywood. That's right. Nobody's really spending time with these kids, and we'll never talk about the impurity of her life in a moment. And even if it's not, motherhood is better, Allie Beth Stuckey said. So it's not a question of holiness, righteousness, being obedient to God, picking up your cross and following Jesus Christ. It's this is better. There's a lot of things in Jesus Christ in comparison to the world that aren't better if you're measuring in terms of you know enjoyment, pleasure, accomplishing things, getting stuff for yourself. In fact, nothing. Anyway, go ahead and finish playing this, Jacob, and we'll try and wrap this up in a minute.
SPEAKER_09Um the producers who created this ship for us to stand in, and my shipmates for life, Hilda, Jessica, Lindy, Zach, none of this is possible without you. Um, my family, my Irish family, they're all here. Ireland bought them flights. Where are you? Can you just I am mom, dad? Thank you for teaching us to dream and to never be defined by expectation, but to carve from your own passion. You. Fred, I love you, man. I love you. You're the most incredible dad. You're my best friend, and I want to have 20,000 more babies with you. I do. I do. And Ayla, my little girl who is eight months, who has absolutely no idea what's going on, and is probably dreaming of milk. But this um is kind of a big deal. And I love you, and I love being your mom, and I can't wait to discover life beside you. Chloe and Maggie. You to get to know this incandescent woman and journey to understand the capacity of a mother's love is the greatest collision of my life. It's um it's Mother's Day in the UK today. So I would like to dedicate this to the beautiful chaos of a mother's heart. We um we all come from a lineage of women who continue to create against all odds. Thank you for recognizing me in this role. This is the greatest honor. I can't even believe it.
TimothyAgainst all odds, Jacob. All odds. They are so oppressed that all odds she wound up being a starlet and she'll eventually there's pictures of her kissing that particular idol. I miss the song though, Jacob.
JacobOh, yeah. Oh, yeah, the song?
TimothyYeah, the song about barren women rise up and sing.
JacobYeah, yeah.
Come Out From Them And Be Separate
TimothyWomen without children. I miss that little part of it. But yet, we have the Western Journal, you've got Ali best stuck, you got these people praising her. Because she uses the words and talks about mother. All that tells me is how much they're idolizing the fact that they were born a woman, something they didn't even choose to do, and just God finally created it, and they're just caught up in the same pride, arrogance, and nonsense. Uh at the end of this, Jacob, I'm gonna have you play one of the movies she's in, and you tell me what kind of mother she would be. In fact, you won't tell me because that's what we're just gonna exit out with. But let's go to 2 Corinthians chapter six and let's read that for a moment and let's compare to what Western Journal says, to what Ali Bestuckey says, and anybody else who, by the way, did the courtesy of watching the Oscars to pick up on keyword compromise to tell us, oh, she talked about motherhood. Man, talk about idolatry. Last I knew my mother needed Jesus Christ as much as I needed Jesus Christ. Second chapter 6, verse 14. What does it say, Jacob? Give us the first line.
JacobDo not be yoked together with unbelievers.
TimothyOkay, is it clear?
JacobIt is clear.
TimothyIt is solid. And all these people are talking about, oh, we follow the word of God, we seek God for wisdom. Look, why are you bothering to seek God for wisdom when you won't even read what he wrote and just try obeying it out of ink on paper? I don't actually recommend that, but at least start there. Where's the obedience? Do not be yoked together with unbelievers. Should we not be calling Hollywood to repentance, Jacob? That's just a side note, right? Yes. But all of a sudden, somebody comes along and says, motherhood, family, friends, the light of my life, success. I got the Oscar, and we have quote unquote Christians coming out and saying, This is great? For what do righteousness and wickedness have in common, 2 Corinthians 6 goes on to say? Or what fellowship can light have with darkness? What harmony is there between Christ and Be Elias? What does a believer have in common with an unbeliever? What do I have in common with this woman or any of those men sitting out there or the 20,000 babies that they're all going to have together? What do I have in common with those people, Jacob? Nothing. Nothing in common. For what do righteousness and wickedness have in common? Or what fellowship can light have with darkness? What harmony is there between Christ and Beli? What does a believer have in common with an unbeliever? What agreement is there between the temple of God and idols? For we are the temple of the living God, and God has said, I will live with them and walk among them, and I will be their God, and they will be my people. Therefore, what does it say we are to do, Jacob? Come out from them and be separate, says the Lord. Touch no unclean thing. They're kissing the Oscar. And I have the link there so you can show it. Touch no unclean thing, and I will receive you. I will be a father to you, and you will be my sons and daughters, says the Lord Almighty. I don't know. Is that clear, Jacob? That is very clear. So Ali Bestuckey, the Western Journal, and many other people clearly are holding this woman up as a role model. Is that not correct? Yes. By commending her, by saying, yeah, this you can have both. You can be this actress, actually. Uh that's what Miss Stuckey said. You can have both. And of course, the other, because of the Western Journal, and they have all of these skills down and no prejudice and this and this noble stuff and saving the country and everything else and all that's good from the Bible. Hold this woman up as an example that we should all clap our hands for, correct? Well, I'm actually gonna stay here, you two. Let's play then one of the movies that this person has starred in, and you tell me is if this is good motherhood.
SPEAKER_08Can anybody help me?
TimothyThis is called the Bride, by the way. Oh, just keep it plain while I talk.
SPEAKER_08Please. I don't want this. I don't want any of this. Please.
SPEAKER_07An accident, huh?
SPEAKER_08We dug you up, and we brought you back to life, and I call her that what do you want with a dead girl?
SPEAKER_07I'm the same. Born from the dead. I am a monster.
SPEAKER_09Yeah, so am I swell?
SPEAKER_07There's a black hole.
SPEAKER_09The corrupt are going to see flight! It's here and it's coming to you from the monsters!
SPEAKER_10Yes. Yes!
SPEAKER_14I'm sorry.
SPEAKER_08Are you sorry? Did you do something wrong? I mean it's all you might get away with. And I'm saying it.
SPEAKER_07Frankenstein. No. Just the pride.
TimothyAny thoughts, Jacob?
JacobLooks pretty bad.
TimothyYep. Take us out of here.
Final Clip And Closing Admonition
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