106 The Consider Podcast

Leftism Fears Jesus – er, so what?
Allie Beth Stucky mocks the term Cultural Christianity.
The invitation is in the spiritual mail system.
The invitation for Chief Justice John to discuss on The Consider Podcast -- humble attire of blue jeans and a nice shirt is required.
Chief Justice John Roberts of the United States Supreme Court whines about the personal attack of judges. 
Aw, excuse us, but Judge Roberts, Your Rulings Affect The Humble in The Land …personally.
All of this and more on The Consider Podcast in the month and year of our Lord April 2026.
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Examining Today’s Wisdom, Folly and Madness

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Cold Open On Faith And Power

SPEAKER_06 0:05

Leftism fears Jesus. Err, so what? Alibeth Stuckey mocks the term cultural Christianity. The invitation is in the spiritual mail system. The invitation for Chief Justice John to discuss on the Consider podcast humble attire of blue jeans and a nice shirt is required. Chief Justice John Roberts of the United States Supreme Court whines about the personal attack of judges. Aww? Excuse us, but Judge Roberts, your rulings affect the humble in the land personally. All of this and more on the Consider Podcast in the month and year of our Lord, April 2026. The Consider Podcast. Examining today's wisdom, folly, and madness.

The Question Behind The Viral Clip

SPEAKER_09 1:06

Welcome to the Consider Podcast, where we examine today's wisdom, folly, and madness. More information can be found at www.consider.info. Now, here are your hosts, Timothy and Jacob.

Timothy 1:26

I hope Jacob's ready for a lot of topics. Okay, go ahead. You're eager today. Yeah. All right, play the role so we can get to the question.

SPEAKER_06 1:41

Ready? Set? Got a question for you. Whoa, whoa, whoa, says Jacob. Tough, says Tim. No whoa, no go woa. Here is the question.

Timothy 2:01

Well, you're eager today, Mr. Jacob. We had to redo that intro a couple times. I guess I was eager too. Hard to tell. Maybe. Well, that's not the question. Here's the question. You play this next clip and then tell me what is wrong with this clip.

Self Defense And Systemic Failure

Timothy 2:19

Okay.

SPEAKER_10 2:20

This veteran stopped a woman from being assaulted in a bar. Police charged him with battery. But what the judge says next, put a smile on his face.

SPEAKER_04 2:28

Mr. Cobb, police charge with battery, but I just watched the CC TV footage. You didn't start that fight, you finished it to protect that woman. You're not a criminal, you're a hero. Case dismissed. Yes, sir.

SPEAKER_05 2:39

Thank you, Your Honor.

Timothy 2:41

Okay, Mr. Jacob, what's wrong with that video clip?

Jacob 2:46

Um, well, he calls him a hero. He's not a hero. Uh uh well, do what's it called? Do two wrongs make a right? Or yeah, no, two rights make a wrong, something like that?

Timothy 3:02

Could be. So what's wrong with the video?

Jacob 3:05

Um Well, there's I you don't have a good reference on the entire story. So at its surface, I don't see anything grossly wrong. I guess if the woman was being attacked and then the guy steps in. I mean, technically, if you're stopping a woman from getting beaten, it doesn't sound too bad.

Timothy 3:26

In this 15-second video tells us exactly what is wrong with the whole judicial system.

Jacob 3:38

I don't know.

Timothy 3:40

It tells us what's wrong with cops, tells us what's wrong with prosecutors, tells us what's wrong with judges. It it epinifies man, I I can't speak today. It it brings right into focus what is wrong.

Jacob 3:53

Oh, which is everyone's just cutting deals like this guy should be held accountable for battery as well as the other guy should be held accountable for like assault.

Timothy 4:03

Nope. He should have never been arrested. Oh, okay. Well, yeah, that's you mean the cops couldn't come in, take two, five minutes, watch the video. Yeah. No doubt he's saying, hey, look, I was protecting you. He's going through the whole thing. But no, we have so now you got me worked up, so dumbed down the justice system. What happens? The cops just show up and they just arrest the first person that comes there. So now he had to be arrested, he had to go through the whole process, he's in handcuffs. He fortunately he didn't hire a lawyer for whatever reason. And so then they just now watch the video to find out whether he's guilty or not. Yeah. Okay, then what happened to the people that actually caused the trouble? Do the police then go back and arrest them for the assault? Of course not. The same thing like when we went through our ordeal with King County prosecutors, they acted like the trial was the investigation. And so you're put in a position where you should never be put in a position. The investigation should be fully done, the charges complete, all put together before you are arrested. Yeah. That would get rid of it. Am I making sense here? Let me back up here if I wasn't.

Jacob 5:15

No, no. It's very clear, correct. It's uh it's uh pretty bad. Yeah, what where's the judge to get onto the cops that made this arrest? Like it's all big smiley video that, oh, I'm I'm I'm off. I'm finally free when, like, yeah, the whole system's broken.

Timothy 5:30

Yeah, the I wanted to call the judge a Ninkin poop. There you are, you've got all this corruption going on. These police obviously arrested the wrong person. Not only was it wrong, he was defending the woman, and they still arrested him. And the judge acts like, well, that's no big deal. Our cops do this stuff all the time. So if you didn't have the video, what would happen?

Jacob 5:53

Uh, he would have been found guilty of battery.

Timothy 5:56

Yeah, the whole prosecutor would come jumping in at his tennis shoes and go, Oh, Your Honor, you know, we he's not free, he's a danger. Just like he had to post bond, he'd had to go through all this stuff in order to go to trial, then to have a dumbed-down jury go, oh, look how Buffy is, and he's a veteran, therefore he's mentally unstable. I can just hear the prosecutor. And, you know, he was the one that was really a perpetrator. He says he's protecting the woman, but we know that stuff doesn't go on because men are vile and corrupt, and the police would not actually arrest anyone that would happen to be innocent. Yeah. Did I kind of encapsulate and put into a succinct sentence or stew st or two about what would take place? Yes. That's what's wrong with our judicial system. It is so corrupt, it is completely backwards. You would have thought by the time that the prosecutor would have looked at the video and never even allowed this to get this far. Correct. Who knows? All right, Mr. Jacob, let's press on with some other issues.

Maturity Means Spiritual Words

Timothy 7:01

But first we need to talk about spiritual words. Let's go ahead and play the scripture in reference to 1 Corinthians chapter 2, and then let's start applying spiritual things to non-spiritual people.

SPEAKER_01 7:17

First Corinthians chapter 2, verses 6 through 14. We do, however, speak a message of wisdom among the mature, but not the wisdom of this age or of the rulers of this age, who are coming to nothing. No. We speak of God's secret wisdom, a wisdom that has been hidden and that God destined for our glory before time began. None of the rulers of this age understood it, for if they had, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory. However, as it is written, no eye has seen, no ear has heard, no mind has conceived what God has prepared for those who love him, but God has revealed it to us by his spirit. The Spirit searches all things, even the deep things of God, for who among men knows the thoughts of a man except the man's spirit within him? In the same way, no one knows the thoughts of God except the Spirit of God. We have not received the Spirit of the world, but the Spirit who is from God, that we may understand what God has freely given us. This is what we speak, not in words taught us by human wisdom, but in words taught by the Spirit, expressing spiritual truths in spiritual words. The man without the Spirit does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him, and he cannot understand them, because they are spiritually discerned.

Timothy 8:53

Mr. Jacob, would you read First Corinthians chapter two, verse six for us again?

Jacob 8:59

We do, however, speak a message of wisdom among the mature, but not the wisdom of this age or of the rulers of this age who are coming to nothing.

Timothy 9:11

Today we talk about maturity. First Corinthians two, six again. We do, however, speak as a mess speak a message of wisdom among the mature. Everything we're going to talk about today has to do with maturity. And the examples, of course, we're going to look at uh today are in mature. Well, let's go to 1 Corinthians. Let's scroll down there a little bit, Jacob. 1 Corinthians chapter 2, verse 13. I wanted to be sure and apply the context for all the people that are afraid it could be out of context, or they might have to go check the context themselves and actually come to some form and agreement. But anyway, Jacob read 1 Corinthians chapter 2, verse 13.

Jacob 9:53

This is what we speak, not in words taught us by human wisdom, but in words taught by the Spirit, expressing spiritual truth in spiritual truth in spiritual words.

Timothy 10:07

This is what we speak, not in words taught us by human wisdom. So when we find a combination of human wisdom associated with the Word of God, we can be sure that at best it's immature, but at worst it's probably wrong doctrinally, correct? Correct. And any type of expression that we do in preaching the gospel or declaring the truth of Scripture or even reading Scripture should be taught to us by the Holy Spirit first. And then the words that we use, we express spiritual truth with what? Spiritual words. Underline that, highlighted, ask the Holy Spirit to put in your heart. We're talking spiritual words.

Passover Replaced By Easter Language

Timothy 10:50

One of the things we're going to focus in on is this whole concept of Easter. As if Jacob, think about it. You have the Passover all through the Old Testament, correct? Yes. There's roughly, I looked up like, okay, how many times is it mentioned? One source says 71. Of course, there's always people that disagree. Then you know another source says 90. And then I think some Christian groups say 190. So take your pick. It's mentioned a lot. Yeah. But we're going to discover here in a moment that the word Easter is only mentioned one time. Jacob, let's go to J.D. Rucker's Christian and Conservative News Sources. And let's look at this particular article. What's the title there you see, Jacob? Leftism Fears Jesus Christ. Leftism Fears Jesus Christ.

Jacob 11:45

What's the point of the article, you think? Um I'm guessing he's going to talk about how the liberal people on the left avoid Christianity. I don't know. They're wicked and sinful, so let's put this together a little bit.

Timothy 12:02

Correct. Let's put this together. We got the one scripture that says we speak spiritual words with words that the Holy Spirit has given us and so proclaim the truth with the words that God gives us to have. Correct?

Jacob 12:15

Correct.

Timothy 12:16

So according to scripture, then the Holy Spirit came and gave him the words to put and conservative in there. Not just Christian, but Christian and conservative. That Jesus Christ died on the cross, that we have all of the Old Testament, all of the New Testament, everything that's going on for God to go along and say to Mr. Rucker, go ahead and put the word conservative in there. If we put the scripture together, that would be the defense, correct?

Jacob 12:47

It would be the defense. I don't even know that he would defend it that way, though. He would just look at you and be like, Well, of course I'm a conservative, and of course I'm a Christian. That's why that's what I'm doing.

Timothy 12:58

Correct. And what he's done in the process is completely isolated those that are liberal. You you immediately made them an enemy of everything you're saying.

Jacob 13:09

How does that bring in the gospel? That doesn't, but that's what he wants to do. That's what both sides, you know, liberal and conservatives, they want like a fight.

Timothy 13:19

Well, they want to sell to their audience. Well, yeah, that's true. They want clips. I doubt there's too many liberals contacting him and going, hey, I don't like that. And and what did you do and what did you say? In fact, scroll down again here because I'm bringing up another point. Look at the first two words he's got in the article on Easter. Remember, we talked about Easter's nowhere in Scripture. That's not a spiritual word. Yeah, it's as if he is saying, and anybody that uses the term Easter, that we have all of the Old Testament, we have Jesus Christ resurrected, we have all of the New Testament, and God comes along and says, Well, you know what? Never mind all of that Passover stuff in the Old Testament and the fact that the Jesus died, resurrection, all that took care of Passover, we're going to call that Easter. Yeah. I thought we were to be, now, this is among the mature, expressing spiritual truth with spiritual words given by the Holy Spirit. Correct. Now, how does this tie in with the word conservative? Well, if we can't, as a people, if we remain stiff-necked and will not give up the term Easter to present the truth of the Passover and be clear and pure about what's going on, separate ourselves from Easter eggs and so on and so forth, then it's no wonder we just add in words and tack them onto Jesus Christ as we see fit. And then what happens when we do that is we a compromise with the world because we've got the word Easter. So now we got Easter bunnies, Easter parades, we've got presidents doing Easter things. I mean, that's kind of obvious that we're compromising with the world. We brought the world into the church, correct? Correct. Well, then on the other hand, we're adding in words like, well, I'm a conservative, I'm a Christian and a conservative. Then we wind up writing articles that completely, immediately violate, separate, cause hostility toward those who are liberal. How would you expect them to respond?

Jacob 15:14

Uh with um the same type wording, which is, you know, they're gonna say conservatives are evil and bigots and religious, whatever.

Timothy 15:23

So we got conservatives in one camp, you got liberals in another camp. Well, how are we gonna bridge and preach the gospel when we've already just said, okay, you're an enemy, nothing you can say I will relate to, and nothing that I say you will relate to. You brought the gospel of Jesus Christ down to a debase level that is political in nature, correct? Correct. Once again, I'm gonna tell everybody who controls the kingdoms of the world? Satan does. Does God oversee, control it, keep it boxed in? Absolutely. But Jesus Christ is very clear that for now, Satan is in charge of the world. He he owns the judicial system, the political system. No, but please, nobody try and convince me that the political system and that our judicial system is somehow holy and righteous. Don't go there.

Jacob 16:15

I would would they go there, Jacob? No, no, no one's gonna defend that. They're just gonna say that we need to we need to take it back. We're gonna we're gonna squish Satan and we're gonna take it back. Take back the courts. That's maybe what they would say.

Timothy 16:28

I like the word squish. I haven't heard that one, but that's about right. Stomp on, you know, I don't know. Well, let's actually look at scripture in relationship to being Christian and conservative and Easter and all that stuff.

Why “Christian Conservative” Divides

Timothy 16:41

But mainly right now, the Christian and conservative. Let's go to 1 Corinthians chapter 9, verse 19. Jacob, just read verse 19, and we're gonna kind of go through this a little bit slower.

Jacob 16:53

Though I am free and belong to no man, I make myself a slave to everyone to win as many as possible.

Timothy 17:01

What are we to become, Jesus Christ? What are we to become in Jesus Christ, Jacob? A slave. A slave. Did not Jesus say become the slave of all? Yes. Did he say become the slave of the conservative? No. Did he say become slaves of a Republican? No. Paul says, I make myself. You have to lower yourself. I make myself a slave to everyone to win as many as possible. The church, definitely those involved in the political area, have little clue, if any, about this. Well, let's go on to verse 20. So what does Paul go on to explain even further about this, Jacob?

Jacob 17:40

Verse 20. To the Jews, I became like a Jew to win the Jews. To those under the law, I became like one under the law, though I myself am not under the law, so as to win those under the law.

Timothy 17:54

All right, so he became what we would call conservative Christians, those who understand the law, understand the basics of scripture, your denominations, those kinds of things. There's those that have a form of law in relationship to scripture or not to scripture, correct?

Jacob 18:12

Correct.

Timothy 18:13

Well, look at verse 21. What does he say?

Jacob 18:16

To those not having the law, I became like one not having the law, though I am not free from God's law, but am under Christ's law, so as to win those not having the law. Who do we usually refer to as being lawless, Jacob? Um lawless, we usually, I guess the liberals, or you know, that's correct.

Timothy 18:39

Yeah. The liberals. Yeah. So Paul is literally saying to those without the law, the Democrats, the lawless ones, I became as one as though as I weren't under the law. You try to relate, doesn't mean you're lawless. No. He because he goes on to say, well, I'm still under God's law. But I don't come in preaching my lawfulness to people who are lawless. You have to begin in a much different basic level. And you don't start off by saying, hey, I'm completely your enemy. I mean, these are people that he's talking about that don't know Jesus Christ. There are a lot of churches I would have to go into and go, okay, hey guys, you are enemies of the cross. But to those that I'm trying to win in Jesus Christ, I become as they are. I don't I don't walk in with an expectation that you have to surrender to my ideology of who I am before I'm going to talk to you. Yeah. It's literally like, and we've heard stories of this, and I don't know quite how true it is, but if you were a missionary in Africa, especially during when England, you know, would kind of rule that part of the world, that the missionaries would go in and say, okay, you have to do this and you have to wear this and you have to do that. And so there was this sense of you're trying to impose upon people in Africa the dress and the customs of those in England. And most people look at that and go, uh, that's not a good thing, correct? Correct. No, when you go, I'm not telling you, I don't couldn't tell you how far to take it or what to do. We're talking Africa. You're talking about laying down your life, but you begin with a servant attitude. If I was invited to a feminist uh event in order to speak, or I don't know, to even intend, I'm not just gonna walk in all indignant and all they don't know Jesus Christ. Yeah. My indignation would come after serious contemplation and for their benefit, not because I'm saying, Well, I'm conservative and I'm a man, and this is who we are, and here's the dividing line, and there's who you are. That is the opposite of the love of Jesus Christ. Am I making sense here? Yes. Now, on the other hand, that doesn't mean I'm going in that I'm lawless in those and that I party around like they do, or I chant, I hate man, or I'm also wimpy at the same time. Doesn't mean I do that either. You're the salt and the light. But when you lay down and go, oh, you know, the leftism fears Jesus Christ, you have created a division and a hostility. You have interjected a self-righteous. It really is the, you know, the tax collector and the Pharisee that went in to pray. And the Pharisee goes, Thank God, I am not like that tax collector. That's all this is. Though I am free, Paul says, and belong to no man, I make myself a slave to everyone. I've been in a lot of different types of people's houses and homes and those kinds, and I go in with a servant attitude, not expecting them to conform to my expectations, dialoguing about things that I wouldn't be interested in, but I am interested in because I love them. You get my point, right, Jacob? Yep. To the Jews, I become a Jew. I'd go in with a respect, with a labor of love for the heritage they brought in. I'd come in with the Jews with a love that's from Jesus Christ. To the liberals, I don't impose Jewish law on them to start with. I probably have pounded this too far, Jacob, right? No, it's all clear though. All right. Well, let's go to 1 Corinthians 9 22. Let's go down a little bit further because I really, you know, when I say I really like a scripture, that varies by each hour. Read 1 Corinthians 9 22, Jacob.

Jacob 22:35

To the weak I became weak to win the weak. I have become all things to all men, so that by all possible means I might save some.

Timothy 22:46

This passage certainly is a secret to it's hidden from the immature. Remember, we're talking about maturity here. Yep. To go into go to the weak. I'm trying to think of examples. I go sit on a front porch, the guy's smoking a cigar or cigarette, he's sitting there in a white t-shirt looking. You know, I don't come in with all this condemnation, just right up front kind of routine that comes in as you first. I think of when Jesus came to the woman at the well, he slowly introduces himself to who she is. So he became weak to the weak. We're called to do the same thing. It's called the love. So where is within all these political movements the claim to be Christian becoming weak toward those who are weak?

Jacob 23:35

Yeah, nobody does it. I I don't think J.D. Records is quoting this verse.

Timothy 23:41

Nope, not at all, not at all. Nor is setting that example, and then all you do is create the division and the hostility between the two factions, and nobody's won for Jesus Christ. There are so many scriptures, that's why Paul will say, I resolve to know nothing while I was with you except Jesus Christ him crucified. It wasn't. I resolved to know Jesus Christ in conservatism and nothing else. All right. I think we've made that clear, so there'll be repentance, right? Well, I don't know about that. Well, they'll give up the word Easter. I mean, again, if you can't give up the word Easter, you're not gonna, this is like only if it's convenient to write another article because you're out of things.

KJV “Easter” And Church Compromise

Timothy 24:23

All right, now let's shift to Easter because he says in this article on the leftism fears Jesus Christ, quote, on Easter, the holiest day of the year, we celebrate the resurrection of Jesus Christ. That's why the the leftism fears of our Lord and Savior and Treasure, just saying those words out loud. Lord, Savior, Treasure. It is easy to recognize why modern socialist governments find Christianity so threatening. This was on the Discern Report where leftism fears Jesus Christ. Now, the sick part about all of this is all about himself. It's all about what about these people that are lost? What about all these social? Of course, as well, first of all, let me pause here and take a breath, Jacob. Uh, do the conservatives love Jesus Christ? Uh no. No. This is equal. But but you know, this is all about himself. It's like, oh, just saying the words out loud, Lord, Savior Jesus. Can we be any more self-righteous about this thing? All right, Jacob. Who do we have to thank for Easter sneaking its way into the culture, the worldwide, the you know, the world as a whole, the impurity within the Catholic Church, the Methodist Church, the Protestants, everybody? Where did Easter get its little claws in? Where did the little bunny come in with the little, you know, colored Easter eggs? Who snuck it in, Jacob?

Jacob 25:50

Uh, I don't know who exactly started it all, the tradition part of eggs and all that.

Timothy 25:57

Well, that's pagan for sure, but who introduced it? Who who decided this would be a great thing, like a super positive thing to put Easter in Scripture? Uh, I don't know. The King James version of the Bible. Oh, okay. They're the only version of the Bible that uses the word Easter. Yeah. Reason for this, of course, is when King James was doing his thing. He's trying to bring people in, and so you find this compromise. Now, I'm not going to go into all that history and bore everybody. Go ahead and play the clip, though, to give us a source, little beginning part of introduction of at least the word Easter.

SPEAKER_01 26:39

The word Easter appears only once in certain English translations of the Bible, specifically in Acts chapter 12, verse 4 of the King James Version, where it is generally accepted by scholars to be a mistranslation of the Greek word Pasha, which means Passover. In the original New Testament, the event Christians now call Easter is referred to as Pasha, the Greek term for Passover. This reflects its deep connection to the Jewish festival of Passover, as Jesus' crucifixion and resurrection occurred during the Passover season. Therefore, the biblical name for what is commonly called Easter is Passover, emphasizing its roots in the Jewish feast and the theological understanding of Jesus as the Paschal Lamb whose sacrifice brings salvation. Most modern Bible translations correctly render Pasha as Passover in all instances, including Acts chapter 12, verse 4, avoiding the misleading term Easter.

Timothy 27:45

All right, unless a church and a denomination and in our writings and in our conversation, the church is unwilling to give up the word Easter, they really don't have much to say. Now that may sound like overdramatized or overdramatic, but it's not. It means if we can't be trusted with little, and this is not little. We're talking Passover or Easter, correct, Jacob? Correct. You would think we'd want to be as holy and pure and clean as possible when it came to the matter of the resurrection of Jesus Christ, right? Correct. But it's like Stephen and Acts, he goes, You always risk the resist the Holy Spirit. How hard, I know I'm repeating with some, how hard is it to stop using Easter and stop doing colored eggs and treat the Passover as the holy thing that it is?

Jacob 28:41

Just how hard is that to do? Uh, it's technically not that hard, but it would be hard for a lot of people.

Timothy 28:48

Correct. And the reason why is we want the approval of the world, and that's why you find people saying, Oh, I'm a Christian and I'm conservative, or I am a Christian and I'm a part of this political group. We haven't yet learned the lesson of Joshua.

Joshua Learns God Chooses Neither

Timothy 29:04

Let's go to Joshua chapter five, and we're gonna play a clip here in a moment. This lesson needs to be learned and taken to heart. Joshua's getting ready to go in and conquer the promised land. So play the clip. We're gonna listen to the scriptures, and I'm really only emphasizing one particular part of it, and then we gotta move on.

SPEAKER_01 29:26

Joshua chapter 5, verses 5 through 15. All the people that came out had been circumcised, but all the people born in the desert during the journey from Egypt had not. The Israelites had moved about in the desert forty years until all the men who were of military age when they left Egypt had died, since they had not obeyed the Lord. For the Lord had sworn to them that they would not see the land that He had solemnly promised their fathers to give us, a land flowing with milk and honey. So he raised up their sons in their place, and these were the ones Joshua circumcised. They were still uncircumcised because they had not been circumcised on the way, and after the whole nation had been circumcised, they remained where they were in camp until they were healed. Then the Lord said to Joshua, Today I have rolled away the reproach of Egypt from you. So the place has been called Gilgal to this day. On the evening of the fourteenth day of the month, while camped at Gilgal on the plains of Jericho, the Israelites celebrated the Passover. The day after the Passover, that very day, they ate some of the produce of the land, unleavened bread and roasted grain. The manor stopped the day after they ate this food from the land. There was no longer any manner for the Israelites, but that year they ate of the produce of Canaan. Now, when Joshua was near Jericho, he looked up and saw a man standing in front of him, with a drawn sword in his hand. Joshua went up to him and asked, Are you for us or for our enemies? Neither, he replied, but as commander of the army of the Lord I have now come. Then Joshua fell face down to the ground in reverence, and asked him, What message does my Lord have for his servant? The commander of the Lord's army replied, Take off your sandals, for the place where you are standing is holy. And Joshua did so.

Timothy 31:38

When you die and you're headed up to the pearly gates, this is just a suggestion, Jacob. And you know, God says, So what did you do while you were down there? And I would suggest you do not say, Why celebrated Easter every year? I showed up for the special Easter sermon every single time and every year, Lord. Got a new suit, went and listened to the sermon, and I gave you honor. And God said, Well, okay, no problem. Uh there's the line for Easter. Look at all this whole story has to do with the Passover. And you'll notice in verse 5 all the people that came out had been circumcised, but all the people born in the desert during the journey of Egypt had not. Circumcision has to do with purity and holiness and righteousness and walking with God, correct? Correct. And you would have think in verse 6, I'm not going to read the whole passage, that those out in the desert could not see the promised land because they did not obey. Again, I'm back to what is wrong with the so-called Christian community that the word obedience is hardly given lip service. But they hadn't obeyed. So we can't stand before God and go, well, we incorporated all the things of the world. I can just hear the King James people going, well, it's right there in the Bible. When all of the rest of the Bible contradicts that word Easter. It's not like you have to be told that was introduced. Anybody just reading the King James Version in terms of it, talk about context, would come to the conclusion, like, wait a minute, what's Easter? Where's that come from? I don't see that anywhere else. The Bible defines itself. We all kind of know that, correct? Correct. All right, verse 11 of Joshua 5 says, the day after the Passover, that very day, the miracles and the things that happened were changed because it stopped. They were at the promised land. In the same way, when we come to Jesus Christ, a lot of things need to stop, and we pick up and we get circumcised and we begin to march into the promises of God, and we should do so in a pure holy way. Now, verse 13 says, Now, when Joshua was near Jericho, he looked up and saw a man standing in front of him. Must have been a pretty tall guy. I'm, you know, I don't want to play this while he was standing on a rock or on a cliff or whatever. It was impressive, right? Yeah. It's interesting, it doesn't, it's kind of weird. It doesn't say he saw this man with this army, just as he saw a man with a sword in his hand. So it must have been impressive. Then look at the lesson they talk. Well, first of all, let me say this. You gotta give Joshua credit. He was willing to take him on. Correct. He he went out to confront him. This was not a gameplay. Didn't matter who he was. He was gonna lay down his life. I mean, he obviously he knew God was with him, but a lot of people know that, and they don't stand up to anything in their neighborhood, let alone in their home, let alone in the government, and so on and so forth. All right. So he he comes, stands before him and says, All right, look, who are you, which side are you on? Which side are you on? And what does the man say that is so impressive, Jacob? What does he say? Neither. Neither. That's why I cringe, especially for multiple reasons when I don't know, sports figure, you know, he wins a game, right? I want to give all glory to God. As if God were on the side of that particular team, or God caused the game to win just because that guy is holy. As if God, I mean, we have reduced God down to some sporting event. Now, if they went in and interviewed the other side, right? Yeah. And they found a Christian and said, Well, why did you lose the game? Because it was God's will. I'd go for that. Sure, yeah. But but nobody does it. It's always the winning side. Well, what's the lesson here, Jacob? Because we've listened to it. I've done a lot of talking. What's the lesson that Joshua is going to learn?

Jacob 35:41

Uh the lesson in this story, I think. Uh I don't know. Uh I was the only thing I was going to say is that all these, you know, because both the liberals and the conservative claim. Well, the liberals don't really claim Jesus, but they certainly claim, I mean, the liberals, they're they're they're liberals that do. Well, and there are. Yeah. There's there's plenty of them that Catholics, Methodists, whatever. But you know, they don't, but they still they still live like they would still say they're Christians, right? Well, not all of them, but some of them do.

Timothy 36:15

Right. Um The point is, God is not on either side. Correct. I mean, the the the conservative guy is going, well, God's on our side because we're conservative. Yes. Uh-uh. Yeah. Look, Joshua learns the lesson that this isn't about which side things are on. And Josh's viewpoint is like, are you for us or against us? That's what he says. He goes, um, and then he goes, Are you for us or for our enemies? Legit question. You would think the man with the sorcerer would say, Well, I'm here from the Lord to help you win the victory. At least say that. Or I'm on your side because God sent me to be on your side. But but it's a one-word statement. There's no qualifications to it. Neither, he says, and at this point, something is dawning on Joshua. It's hitting him hard. He's going to hit the ground here in a moment. Neither, he replied, but as a commander of the army of the Lord, I have now come. Jesus Christ is only interested about Jesus Christ. God is only interested about Jesus Christ. God is not interested at all in a conservative movement. God is not interested in winning back America. God is not just against the liberals. He's against all those who will not embrace all of his word, fall to the ground, and repent. The old hymns, this world is not our home. They can't sing it anymore. Yeah. Let me read it again. It's beautiful. Neither replied, but as a commander of the army of the Lord, I have now come. Then Joshua fell face down to the ground in reverence. I think at that point it's just flooding Joshua that this is not about being Jewish. This is not about being Gentile. This is not about anything but God Himself. Then Joshua fell down to the ground in reverence and asked him, What messages my Lord have for his servant? You know, we do enter holy ground when it finally dawns us that God is not for Timothy Williams. God is not for my ministry. He's not for being a Republican. He's not for being liberal. He's not, he's not for any of that. He is only about himself and glorifying his son. We should all be in a position where we have humbled ourselves, we've fallen to the ground, our sword is on the ground, the sword, the word of God that this man and his army, this great man are holding over us, that is the word of God. And there should be this humility, this brokenness, this fall into the ground, and saying, okay, what message do you have? And we put ourselves in a listening position. What about starting with the word, give up the word Easter? We couldn't even hear these grand things, nor were you in any grand battles where we just tumbled ourselves. And when's the last time you heard anybody that went through persecution, right? And they won a great, and I'm gonna use great victory in quotes, because what the church often quotes is great victory is, you know, I won't be freedom to speech to write Jesus on pizza or something like that. Where where is any of these people coming out of this going, I learned a valuable lesson in here that the Lord is Lord of all. I saw my idolatry, or I saw my impurity, or I saw where my sin needed to change, or I needed to grow up, or needed to become more mature, and God really humbled me here, and the word of God really spoke to me and corrected me on this particular aspect of my life. Where do you see that? We do not. In fact, Hebrews says that we're considered dis uh hardship as discipline. I learned many, many humbling things by the things that the city of Edom called police persecuted and the King County prosecutors prosecuted. It became a source of me learning from God and laying down on the ground with my word of God, I mean the sword of and it was the sword was of God, but learning more and more, dying more and more. Amen. Amen. See Joshua 5 15. Read that, Jacob. What happens when we f if we ever let the Lord take away this conservative stuff, this Easter stuff, and this is just baby stuff. It's just baby stuff. We're not even up to maturity level. Go ahead and read verse 15, Jacob.

Jacob 40:57

The commander of the Lord's army replied, Take off your sandals, for the place where you are standing is holy, and Joshua did so.

Timothy 41:07

It's holy ground at that point. Again, I'm pausing, Jacob. When when's the last time you Oh, I hope they don't go mocking it like Alibeth Stuckey's gonna do here in a moment. Um When's the last time you heard read an article, heard somebody speak about it? Not holy ground from like, oh, I'm standing on holy ground boasting about it, but learning what's holy as you lay on the ground being prostrated before the living God and servants that are better than you. I have not. The commander of the Lord's army replied, Take off your sandals. That's the message. So here's Joshua on the ground, obviously humbled, correct? And what does the army of the Lord of the this angel command him to do? To take off, to humble him even more. He he brings a rebuke to him. Listen to the podcast, so you want to be wise. The commander of the Lord's army replied, Take off your sandals. He's rebuking him. Like, get those sandals off, for the place where you are standing is holy. Is he not being humbled more, Jacob? Yes. You you you know how this would read today? Uh the commander of the Lord's army came to me and said, Rise up, oh man, take that sword, you will conquer, you will overcome, you will be this for Jesus Christ in the hallelujah, the amens, and let's write a book and let's do a movie, right? Wouldn't that all pretty much be the situation? Yes. But no, self is not humbled, sin is not broken. We remain stiff-necked toward the Lord. We can't even give up the term Easter. We cannot even surrender the word that we are conservative. We can't even purify the message of the cross, let alone to envision to take in what it is to have some spiritual encounter with the living God where you are rebuked even as you are down low rebuked, saying, Take off even your sandals, because this is holy ground. There can be nothing man-made between you and what the Lord has made. Those sandals come off. The sandals are man's creation. Those sandals are a reflection really of sin. I doubt in the Garden of Eden we needed sandals, right? Correct. This is holy ground. There's to be nothing, no matter how small or how convenient, because it is convenient to wear sandals in a rocky terrain and to go into battle, correct? That that's all convenient. Correct. Take those things off. Place your feet on holy ground. Let there be nothing, no matter how small, no matter how insignificant you think it is, no matter how much you like those pairs of shoes. Because this is holy ground. Let the content be pure and complete. That kind of puts in perspective 2 Timothy chapter 4, doesn't it, Jacob? Yes, it does.

Cultural Christianity And Paywalls

Timothy 44:12

Go ahead and read 2 Timothy chapter 2, verse 4. And let's remind ourselves of this holy ground.

Jacob 44:22

Second Timothy chapter 2, verse 4. No one serving as a soldier gets involved in civilian affairs. He wants to please his commanding officer.

Timothy 44:34

Well, what can you say? Amen. So much of this is indeed involvement in civilian affairs, and you're creating nothing but division and unlove. Alright, let's talk about Ali Beth and cultural Christianity. Jacob, I discovered this off J.D. Rucker's Christian and Conservative news site, right? You can kind of pull it up there. I highlighted it. And he mentions that Stuckey highlights how cultural Christianity has blended secular values with biblical teachings, creating confusion among believers, right? Well, I went to the source of the article because what he's really doing is I'm guessing he's running this through AI, and you kind of get now. He may he may be typing it. I'm not against AI condensing information. I'm just meaning that. So I go to the article, and remember we just did our uh little messages about Ally Beth Stuckey, what, a couple times ago? Yeah. Well, now Allie Beth Stuckey's articles are behind a paywall. Oh. You can't now you got to pay for the gospel. Ah, yes. So when I go to the actual link that brings up this article, I can't get to it because it says I need to pay for it. Um can you think of maybe a couple reasons? I don't want to go too much with this couple reasons for this, Jacob.

Jacob 45:59

Well, it certainly is all about the money. That's the superficial uh level.

Timothy 46:05

Correct. I think too, perhaps they got wind of what we were saying and speaking has to do with the truth. You just don't want to lay it out all too easily. You want to actually appeal to people that are supportive of what you're doing. You don't want them to question or examine and look at who you are in terms of really are you obeying the word of God, correct? Correct. Now then this is a little subpoint. So let's, you know, in our minds, let's draw a little arrow, go over to the left or the right. Because we've made it pretty clear. Alibeth Stuckey has made it pretty clear that, you know, women are not to teach men, right? Mm-hmm. So what do we have going on here? We have men repeating what Ali Beth Stuckey is teaching. Yeah. I I doubt the paywall is when you go into pay, it says, Well, are you a woman? Because if you are, then you can look at Ali Beth Stuckey's post, but if you're a man, you can't. No. So what's the difference? What is the difference? If we if she agrees and says, Oh, men, that's right. Women are, you know, not to be in charge and women aren't supposed to teach. Then all the men do is take everything she says and put it out there. Who is she then teaching?

Jacob 47:18

The men. Although I will say this, even from her own words, though. She she she just said women can't be pastors. She was never quoted as saying, you know, they can't teach men, or you know what I mean, though? I that's the only thing she was specific on is that women can't be pastors. You know, she of course they can do this, they can do that. I don't know.

Timothy 47:41

Yeah, and you may be correct. I mean, you really have to do a song, and I I consider it square dancing Christianity. I know, but I'm just you just keep shifting the position and like well, what gets called out next, we'll see. But I I hear what you're saying.

Jacob 47:54

But yeah, but but what I but the she's not even at she's already watered, she's like so watered down, uh it's just meh.

Timothy 48:03

Yeah. And and let me mention again, uh scripture does say, Jesus does say, freely you've been given, you know, freely give to other people. Yes. Or freely and so on. So I oh yeah, all the paywalls.

Jacob 48:15

Yeah, the paywalls. Um, yeah, then it was Paul says that he you know gives it freely, right? He he mentions multiple times about how he would work so that it would be free, he wouldn't be this burden, etc. etc. I know, isn't that disgusting? Paywalls? And you well, kind of like what you're saying with this Easter. Like this is like this is a basic thing. And then in the Christian conservatives, we're gonna do the paywall. This is another basic thing. Like, don't you want to reach everybody?

Timothy 48:43

Correct. I re I think the real reason for the the paywall is because it makes it way too easy as for to go in and deal with it. So uh I thought about paying for it, but uh, and I still may, but we kind of need to move on. Yeah, it it'll like it seeps out. Yeah. I mean, as long as you have men posting this stuff here, because I there's enough there in the screenshot that I can see that she actually uses the term cultural Christianity, which now I want to kind of hammer a point that I kind of don't really care about, but I want to make a point. Now, Ali Beth Stuckey was born in 1992. Okay. I was using the term cultural Christianity before she was born. Sure. Back in the time, and I could be wrong because there's very few things that are actually quote unquote totally original, but I believe I originally coined the term cultural Christianity, and in 1992, I was almost 40 years old. So I was using this term before she was born. Sure. Uh, right at zero plus one day, be while she's being taught in her Christian school and being taught to reason and debate and do all the things that she's able to do as a woman. Somehow she got around to using the word cultural Christianity that's been floating. I've watched it increase over time, is my point. Yeah. Do I consider it a big deal? No. And am I patting myself on the back? No. Or there could have been somebody else that even earlier used cultural Christianity? Possible. If there is, show it to me. I I'd like to find it. But that's not my point. My point is that you're mocking. Okay, here's the point. Jacob, if she's not cultural Christianity, what is? Yeah. Now I want Ali Beth Stuckey and J.D. Rucker to define for me exactly what is cultural Christianity. Who are the who are the individuals that are participating in cultural Christianity? Again, Stuckey highlights how cultural Christianity has blended secular values. You mean like Easter? Secular values with biblical teachings creating confusion among believers? Okay, then unconfuse me. Yeah. List for me specifically what has gotten confused. I do that with women preachers and teachers and past. Am I not specific? Yes. Haven't I not taken away the confusion? Like this is what it says. I don't think too many people are confused. They don't like what they hear. Yeah. And they're hostile, and they'll certainly run me out of town. But I don't know that you're confused about what I'm saying. Am I wrong on that, Jacob? No, you're correct. Okay, Proverbs 122, then read that, Jacob, because we want to deal with the confusion. And in fact, this let me make it very clear. These groups we're talking about today, they are cultural Christianity. And I'm being very specific about how that is. And I'm just getting started. So if you want to dig on this further, if you want to do away with the confusion, let's begin the process then. Otherwise, define for me who you're talking about. Now I'm sure who they're going to pick are the totally whacked out liberal Christians that go, you know, believe in abortion. You know, I don't know that I you know it really doesn't go very far. Even among those who are like liberal, liberal, liberal, it's only I don't know that they have a doctrine that says, well, women should work outside the home or going too deep. You read Proverbs chapter 1, verse 22, Jacob.

Jacob 52:30

How long will you simple ones love your simple ways? How long will mockers delight in mockery and fools hate knowledge?

Timothy 52:39

Okay. You know, you're mocking cultural Christianity. That got passed down to you somehow. You picked up on it somewhere. You didn't come up with that. And yet you command us and you say she argues that emotional validation has replaced biblical accountability in many churches. Really? Okay, specific. How? In what way? Well, how's it done? I don't want to have to pay a paywall to be righteous. How about just laying it out detailed, specific. Tell me, point there. Any other comments, Jacob? No. Okay. Well, let's go out with Stucky encourages Christians to return to scriptures as the ultimate authority rather than cultural narratives. Okay. I haven't got much more scriptural than that. Well, let's give up Mormonism and move forward. All right. Mm-hmm.

Inviting Chief Justice Roberts To Talk

Timothy 53:32

All right, let's talk about Chief Judge Roberts of the Supreme Court, Jacob. Play the clip and let's talk about it.

SPEAKER_06 53:45

Chief Justice Roberts of the Supreme Court has an invitation. The invitation is in the mail. The invitation is sent with a tracking code. The Lord's tracking code. The invitation is friendly and without favoritism. Judge Roberts, you are formally invited to sit down with normal folk on the Consider Podcast and discuss justice. Now is, for a moment anyway, your chance to burst your protective bubble. Now is your chance to walk down the steps of the Ivory Tower. Now is your chance to walk the streets of the city of Enum Claw with the host, Timothy. RSVP is required. The Consider Podcast.info. Examining today's wisdom, folly, and madness.

Timothy 54:48

Jacob, the reason that I put out this invitation is because of something he said on C SPAN. Go ahead and play this clip and let's listen to what he has to say and hone in on the fact that he says that these personal attacks against or rebuking judges. He goes, personally directed hostility is dangerous, he said, and it's got to stop. That's what Chief Justice John Roberts said. So I'm inviting him to come on the podcast friendly, open discussion. We'll discuss justice and what it is and a few basic concepts of things. We'll go from there. But let's listen to what his complaint is and let's discuss that.

SPEAKER_00 55:33

In your 2024 year-end report on the judiciary, you wrote that criticism comes with the territory for judges and justices, and that it can be healthy. You've talked about the criticisms that your predecessors encountered. How do you handle criticism of your court or your opinions to get on with it?

SPEAKER_03 55:59

Well, it does it does come with the territory. Often uh when any of us issue an opinion, there's often a dissent. Usually not, but uh I mean people their the most opinions are more opinions than anything else are unanimous. And that's pretty to get used to the criticism right away. Um uh uh and it it can very much be healthy. We don't believe that we're you know flawless in any way. Um and it's important uh that our our decisions are are subjected to scrutiny and and they are. Um the problem sometimes um is that the criticism uh can move from a focus on uh legal analysis to uh personalities. Um and you see uh from all over, I mean not just any one political perspective on it, um that it's more directed in a personal way, and that uh frankly uh can be actually quite dangerous. Uh judges around the country work very hard uh to get it right. Um and if they don't, their opinions uh are subject to criticism. But uh personally directed uh hostility um is is dangerous and it's got to stop.

SPEAKER_00 57:22

It's very much part of our lives these days, and on behalf of trial judges everywhere, I want to personally thank you. Because while we know that you may not always agree with us, we always know that you have our backs, and that means a great deal. So thank you. And I hope it continues.

Timothy 57:49

Okay, Jay. You know, it's just a couple lawyers sitting up there. I want to go, get to your point, get to your point, right?

Jacob 57:56

Yeah, yeah.

Timothy 57:57

But he goes, yeah, this personally directed hostility is dangerous. Well, excuse me, Judge Roberts. Every ruling you bring out affects the humble in the land personally. Yeah. I mean, we don't have time for it, but I've got tons of YouTube clips of cops behaving badly. I was ran out of town. That's why part of my invitation is, Mr. Roberts, that when you come on the Consider podcast and we discuss things of justice and how this affects the humble in the land, that one of the things we will probably consider to do is I would wear a hidden camera and microphone and walk downtown Enum Call and let's just see what kind of reception I get. What do you think, Jacob? Or I know I'll go into the Enum Call police station and do an information request with a hidden camera. What do you think? You think I'm gonna be accepted? Uh probably not. I was already attacked in McDonald's by them when this thing began to start. We are personally affected by all of these rulings. I you could go down the list. Abortion, does that not personally affect babies in the womb? Yes, it does. So the first thing the Supreme Court does is come along and go, Well, yeah, it's legal for a woman. And then we have this wholesale slaughter. And I'm just using abortion as one example. Then when the heat builds up, then they go, oh, well, you know what? Let's turn that back over to the states. So that just continues on. It just creates confusion, then it creates it's the battle out there, and you want to sit there and then your high holy tower and sit there and tell us, oh, well, you know, we're being personally attacked. Excuse me? Personally, now I'm this is not like, okay, let's personally do violence. That's not what I'm talking about. But the attacks are specific to your personality, correct? Correct. Let's go to James chapter

Luxury Bribery And James Chapter Five

Timothy 59:51

5, verse 5. I'll give you an example here. And I love the way she says, and you have our backs. Yeah, well, that's the problem. Why don't both of you come on the podcast and let's talk about the problem that you each have each other's back? You know, she doesn't say we have the humbles back or we have the people's back, we have each other's back going on. And that's the problem. When you look at these police, you have literally unleashed upon us an enemy called the police department. You have to be a lawyer, you've taken away the right to be silent. If the police come in and destroy home, there's always tidbits of little justice here, and you pat yourself on the back when it's been wholesale destruction. You unleash pornography upon the land, and then you wonder why, you know, teachers sleep with students. It's absurd. Everything that you do and have done has done destruction to the United States. It has affected us on an extremely personal level. Let me ask you a question, Jacob. If you're you're studying scripture and that kind of thing, and suppose you're writing a new translation, what would you do? What would you do to do a solid, clear translation of a Bible?

Jacob 1:01:08

Uh why am I doing a new translation?

Timothy 1:01:12

Well, not a new one, just in general. Just put yourself in time in history.

Jacob 1:01:16

Oh, like if I was a dude back in the day translating the Bible? Yeah, what would you do? What would be your meth the methodology? Um you would want it to be as close to like if we it was if there was the New Testament, you'd want it to be as close to the exact words that Jesus spoke. Like you want it line by line. So you'd go back to as far back to the original text as you could get. Correct. Yeah. Even the, you know, that's why like Luke, right? Like, well, no, Luke w wrote down things, but say like Mark was there. So Mark is recounting, this is what Jesus said, and I'm writing it down. You want the original.

Timothy 1:01:53

You wouldn't go back to say somebody that did something 30 years ago and look at what they interpreted, and then then go back to maybe any other sources that are out there that claim to be, oh, well, this is what scripture really says. And so, oh yeah, I like that. So we're gonna pull that in and maybe go over here and oh, well, this person said in this commentary that this word said this, and so, oh yeah, I can pull that in. Would you do that?

Jacob 1:02:16

Uh only if you're you want to fashion the translation to be whatever you want it to be, then you would do that.

Timothy 1:02:24

That's right. If you wanted to butcher the translation that you're working on, you would go to all these extraneous type sources to put it together, right? Yeah. Okay, Mr. Chief Judge Roberts, in every ruling you do, you should go straight back to the Bill of Rights and the Constitution of the United States, not all the history of the different ways that has been applied. How hard is that? Uh not very hard. So that's why we have all this corruption. They have uh qualified immunity for police. Well, where did that come from? That's not in the Constitution. No. It's certainly not in the Bill of Rights. So when you come on the show, Judge Roberts, we're going to discuss that aspect. I'll give you a little bit ahead of time to kind of give us that explanation of why the Supreme Court refuses only to measure things directly from the Constitution of the United States and the Bill of Rights, and that's it, and apply that principle and those laws to every ruling. All right. Well, let's go to James chapter five, verse five, as I mentioned earlier. Go ahead and read verse five through eight, Jacob.

Jacob 1:03:38

You have lived on earth in luxury and self-indulgence. You have fattened yourselves in the day of slaughter. You have condemned and murdered innocent men who were not opposing you. Be patient then, brothers, until the Lord's coming. See how the farmer waits for the land to yield its valuable crop and how patient he is for the autumn and spring rains. You too be patient and stand firm because the Lord's coming is near.

Timothy 1:04:07

All of this obviously is about repentance, and this is not a personal attack, meaning seeking to do violence to anybody in government and supreme court. First of all, you people that are involved in violence against the government, there's nothing better that's going to replace it. I guarantee it's just more wickedness is going to come in. But that's not my point. Verse 5 says, You have lived on earth in luxury and self-indulgence. Hmm. Jacob, what do you think Judge Roberts' wife is worth?

Jacob 1:04:41

Uh well, from the way you phrased it and the fact that we're reading James 5.5, she's probably worth like, I don't know, maybe like maybe like eight million dollars.

Timothy 1:04:51

Eight million. The wife of Chief Justice John Roberts earned 10.3 million. And how did she earn that, Jacob?

Jacob 1:05:01

From not honest means, probably.

Timothy 1:05:06

Only by referring other people to top law firms. Not actual work. In other words, it's what we would call bribery. Yeah. Essentially, I would go, so suppose you knew somebody uh important and I wanted to get into their law firm. I go, Jacob, you know, here's a fee. I'll pay you fifty thousand dollars to introduce me to him. That's what that is. Wow. Ten point three million between two thousand seven and two thousand fourteen.

unknown 1:05:35

Wow.

Jacob 1:05:36

So come out of your go ahead, Jacob. Well, uh uh well, it only goes to fourteen. This is twenty twenty six. So we don't even know how much from two thousand fourteen to twenty twenty six, and I'm sure it's substantial.

Timothy 1:05:48

That's all that could get reported. Correct. That averages to one point one point two nine million per year just from doing and by the way, Judge Beth and Dress does the same thing. Her name is associated with a law firm. I believe it's in Seattle. Well, she says on the website she she enjoys walking down the beach with her husband, picking up clams or whatever they do in that rich part of town. So she earns money. So what do you think she's going to do on the bench? How do you think these rulings are going to come out? They're going to come out in a way where they can maximize their money. And so justice just gets justice is not even in the equation. And so don't buy this. Oh, these personal tax. Excuse me, you're worth multi-millions of dollars. You don't know what it is for us to live under the oppression of the City of Enum Call police or social services or divorce court or all the murderous things you have done to the law. The humble in the land are tormented, constant danger while you live and rake in your millions. And judgment is coming. You have lived on earth in luxury and self-indulgence. You don't see him sitting in that chair all stood up straight, ready to talk and defend and debate, right? He's not prepared. He's laid back. He's clapping at the end in the corner down there. Yeah, yeah, we got your back. You got our back. And we hope it continues. Oh, and they smile at each other. How happy. How the rest of us have to suffer when we get pulled over by to be tricked out of our rights, to be lied to, to be arrested when we defend a woman to have to go to court to depend on a judge to go, oh, well, this gets thrown out. And the cops smile, and the prosecutor smiles, and you rake in your money, and everybody is dumb enough to go, oh, that was a great judge. He commended the vet who defended this woman. What are you talking about? That is called oppression on any level. Yeah. And by the way, the 10 million comes from the internal records from her employer, Major Lindsay in Africa, whatever that law firm is, to a total of 13.3 million during that time. That's just her, Jacob. Correct. What do you think he's worth? Oh, Joe. We're separating it. This is the this is the combined worth, not to mention all the gifts and little favors that come along with it.

Jacob 1:08:21

And this is this is only like what we know or reported or allegedly on the books. So he's got to be worth at least another 10 uh combined net worth of 25 million dollars.

Timothy 1:08:33

Oh, you're you're you are so up there. In fact, when he retires, yeah, how much his retirement costs?

Jacob 1:08:41

Oh, his retirement, he probably gets like he probably gets, you know, $120,000 a year when he's retired, and that's when you know he's not doing anything.

Timothy 1:08:52

Well, it's a lot more than $120,000.

Jacob 1:08:55

Wow, his retirement is more than that. Okay, I know. I I'm uh yeah, I have no idea.

Timothy 1:09:01

I'm gonna read you the paragraph. Okay. Chief Justice John Roberts and his wife, Jane Sullivan Roberts. How come these women all have to use their three name? Anyway, have an estimated net worth of 20 million in liquid assets. I'm so poor. I'm so humble. I don't even really know what a liquid asset is. Do you know?

Jacob 1:09:26

Uh, I think that's anything that you can like trade in for money. So this wouldn't even be worth, I think, like their their real estate. You know what I mean? They got a couple houses, they might even own some apartment buildings. Who knows what else they own? I think this is liquids, meaning like what you can kind of grab and use, right? Like you can, I don't know. I don't even know.

Timothy 1:09:44

To go get a gallon of milk down at uh I guess, but it's certain, you know what I mean?

Jacob 1:09:47

It's certainly not like you know, you'd have to go sell the house in order to get that money. It's not liquid money. That's the only thing I know. It's not a house.

Timothy 1:09:55

Right. So he's got fast ready cash of twenty.

Jacob 1:09:58

Oh, yeah. He's got cash, he's got stocks. Maybe not cash, but this is stuff you can pull out, right? You can pull out a retirement, you can pull out all sorts of things, you can you can touch that money.

Timothy 1:10:08

Uh I've got uh ready cash of about 40 bucks in my dresser drawer. Yeah. All right, let me I'll continue to read. Have estimated combined net worth of 20 million in liquid assets, in addition to owning several homes and having a multi-million dollar pension awaiting the Chief Justice upon retirement. Wow, this dude is rich. Very rich. You can see why he's laid back. And you know what? He can't these personal tax, he can't afford security?

Jacob 1:10:41

Yeah, exactly.

Timothy 1:10:42

Uh you'd think he'd have security with that kind of money. He does. He does. This isn't just bogus whining. That's when I hear these, oh, we need laws to protect prosecutors and judges. Baloney, you don't, there aren't that many cases where this stuff is happening by any means, because all the power, everybody's got everybody's back, except the humble in the land, Chief Justice Roberts. So please come on the show, sit down, let's discuss. Tell me how, because I may be missing something, you have the backs of the humble in the land. The rulings you give take so long. You know, you would think freedom of religion like would be a shrine way above the freedom of the press. It's not even close. We're begging at the altar to allow ourselves to preach the gospel without harassment. You come, I'll discuss with you how I was ran out of the city of Enum Claw by the City of Enum Claw police and an active hate crime by the state of Washington because you do not have my back. Yeah. All

Oppression Layers And Courtroom Access

Timothy 1:11:50

right. Now I'm not surprised by any of this, are you, Jacob? No, I'm I'm not surprised at all. All right, Ecclesiastes 5.8. Let's read it because I I did uh lay it all down. Um not to mention as we go to Ecclesiastes 5.8, what about all the false accusations that are placed upon men that are never prosecuted, Chief Justice Roberts? I mean, we can go on and on and on and on about uh how we are being crushed. And when I say we, I mean the humble in the land. And this isn't to get on to defense attorneys that you have to pay for, but so much of what we have to pay for is your oppression, not their prices, which are two different issues completely. All right, Ecclesiastes, Ecclesiastes 5.8. If you see the poor oppressed in a district, yeah, City of Enum Claw, and justice and rights denied, City of Enum Claw, Seattle, King County prosecutors, do not be surprised at such a thing. Nah, I wasn't shocked. I mean, it wasn't over the one. In fact, we kind of plan. It wasn't I didn't expect the police. I didn't expect that. I expected it to come from other sources, but wasn't surprised. Do not be surprised at such things for one official is eyed by a higher one, and over them both are others still higher. What he's really saying is we already know Chief Rogers Roger is rich, right? And richness isolates you from the average person. Yes. Your heart becomes naturally cold and hard. That's why scripture says you need a righteous, holy man that knows how to hate and despise money to rebuke and to bring into line the rich in a church because the hardness of the heart just creeps in. That's just how it is. Well, now you have this chief judge all the way to the top, and everybody protecting him because they're being protected by him, and he's got all this money, and his wife has all this money, and they're they're just secure in the land. It's normal, it's natural, it's part of the problem of sin that they've become hardened to, and they don't have a clue. He can sit there and lay back in his chair and go, Yeah, these, you know, these personal tax. It really shouldn't go there. And and yeah, we we we should, you know, maybe we get criticism, I think he said, and then he goes, Yeah, sometimes we deserve it. You can tell he's struggling. He does not want to admit that he should be criticized on anything. Then anyone who really criticizes him, and he wants us all to be lawyers that sit at home and Jacob, let's read the current ruling by the Supreme Court with the little common periods here and see how this applies. Because Jess Roberts is just following the law, right? Yeah. That's what he wants, but that's not reality, Chief Roberts. That's not the truth. Roberts, come on the podcast. Let's talk truth. Let's talk law. Let's talk constitutional law. Let's c talk things that are really right in their foundation, and then go from there. All right, just to tell you how bad this gets, in 1978, there was a guy, I think his name was Sam Sloan, and we'll play that here in a moment. He was a non-lawyer, just average guy, humble guy, and he wanted to argue his case before the Supreme Court. And he did argue his case before the Supreme Court. And he won. So what do you think the Supreme Court's reaction was to that, Jacob? I mean, all these justices agreed with Mr. Sloan, said, okay, you're innocent or whatever it was he was after. So you're free to go do whatever because you're free and you got to plead your case before us. So we rule in your favor. So what do you think their reaction was? Um, I don't know. They ruled later on that no one who wasn't a lawyer was allowed anymore to plead their case before the Supreme Court.

Jacob 1:15:46

Uh, of course. I yep, that doesn't sound like a shock. You have to be a member of their club, even just to talk to them.

Timothy 1:15:54

Right. Even if you're right, even if you win, even if you're humble, even if they agree with you, they don't want anybody a part uh that's not a part of their, as you put it, the local club, the million-dollar club, the enrichment club, to come in before the Supreme Court and go, hey, you know what? This just isn't right. Yeah. My guess is he came in with such clarity and he came in with such truth. This stuff is not that complicated. Do you do we not understand that these lawyers complicate things so that they can be lawless? Yes. Washington State is extremely famous for that. They write laws that are so broad, nobody can figure out, well, what are you saying and where are you going with this? Because it allows them then to be lawless and to do anything they want to do. Yeah. Go ahead and play this clip, Jacob, and it gives us a little bit of backstory. And the last guy to actually be a non-lawyer to plead his case before the Supreme Court.

SPEAKER_01 1:16:58

The case of Sam Sloan. Since 1978, only licensed attorneys have been permitted to deliver oral arguments before the US Supreme Court, a practice formalized in Supreme Court Rule 28.8, which states, oral arguments may be presented only by members of the bar of this court. This rule reflects a long-standing policy that effectively prohibits non-lawyers from presenting oral arguments. The last known non-lawyer to argue before the court was Sam Sloan in 1978 in Inry Sloan. Following this, the court reinforced its policy, and by 2013, Rule 28.8 was updated to explicitly restrict oral arguments to licensed attorneys. Sam Sloan won the case he argued before the US Supreme Court in 1978. He represented himself pro se in SEC votes Sloan 436 U.S. 103 1978 and achieved a unanimous nine or zero victory. The case centered on whether the Securities and Exchange Commission had the authority to summarily suspend trading in a security. Sloan, who was not a licensed attorney, successfully challenged the SEC's actions, and the court affirmed the lower court's ruling in his favor. He is recognized as the last non-lawyer to argue a case before the Supreme Court.

Timothy 1:18:31

Well, Jacob, what can you say? Yeah. And it's very recent. It just gets harder and harder. I there's no way I can present my case before the Supreme Court. I'd have to have a whole group of lawyers, and there's no way you're going to get there. And they're going to and well, all that really means is the lawyers coming in are going to have this mindset that it's not about the Constitution of the United States or the Bill of Rights. It's about what other mistakes can we find that the court has done in the past that will allow us to have the power to crush the humble in the land. All right, as we head on out of here, Mr. Roberts, Judge Roberts, excuse me if I don't know the exact term. Is it supposed to be honorable Judge Roberts of the Supreme Court? I suppose it is. I suppose. I w I want to play for you. Any comments first, Jacob, before we head out of here? No. This is what we have to live with because of what you have done. And this is just a little, little, little touch of the corruption and the oppression and the illegal prosecutions that you have instilled. Play it, Jacob, then take us out of here.

Final Warning And Local Corruption

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