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Extortion A Prosecutor Crime God Will Judge
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A Jury Jot
"Let Me See The Plea"
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Opening Claim And Quote
SPEAKER_00A jury jot from the Consider Podcast. Prosecutors are guilty of extortion. First, a quote from Timothy Williams. Quote When called for jury duty, I will respectfully but firmly demand that the judge and prosecutor first disclose the extortion they have committed before I agree to sit in the jury box. End quote. You see the turmoil in the land. You witness the lawlessness in criminal acts. Then you blame the prosecutors, judges, and police who have embittered the nation with their corruption, lies, vengeance, and legalized lawlessness. Their evil foundations of corruption are destroying the humble in the land and fully embittering the entire nation. That is why I am wise, very wise, when it comes to their scheme called jury duty. Therefore, now the land of the United States is vomiting in convulsions. Deuteronomy sixteen twenty. Follow justice and justice alone, so that you may live and possess the land the Lord your God is giving
Jury Duty Refusal Over Pleas
SPEAKER_00you. Jury duty the call When called for jury duty, I will respectfully but firmly demand that the judge and prosecutor first disclose any plea bargaining before I agree to sit in the jury box. It is morally bankrupt, spiritually corrosive, and constitutionally indefensible for prosecutors to offer a reduced sentence in exchange for waiving the right to a trial, only to pile on additional charges carrying far harsher penalties the moment a defendant dares to exercise that sacred constitutional right. This is nothing less than judicial extortion and prosecutorial coercion, systemic crimes against justice itself. If I determine that such tactics were used in any case before me, I will have no choice but to return a verdict of not guilty. Children get it right. At least the Oxford Children's Dictionary spells it out truthfully, just as Jesus declared in Matthew chapter eighteen verse three. I tell you the truth, unless you change and become like little children, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven. The Oxford Children's Dictionary defines extortion as the crime of making somebody give you something by threatening them. Based on this plain truth, today's prosecutors and police use extortion as their primary method for securing convictions. They coerce guilty statements from people whether those people are actually guilty of the charged crime or not, often pressuring them into admitting things completely unrelated to any real offense. In reverse, offering a reduced sentence in exchange for a guilty plea amounts to bribery. In short, both practices are lies, abuse of power, and will be judged by a holy God. No wonder God has declared long ago that many prosecutors, judges, and police officers are headed straight to hell. As Second Chronicles chapter nineteen verse seven warns. Now let the fear of the Lord be upon you, judge carefully, for with the Lord our God there is no injustice or partiality or bribery. God.
Defining Extortion And Coercion
SPEAKER_00Definition of extortion Extortion is the criminal act of obtaining money, property, concessions, confessions, waivers of rights, or any other benefit from a person or entity through coercion, intimidation, threats, fear, or abuse of power. It typically involves a credible threat to future harm, physical, financial, reputational, or legal, designed to compel the victim to comply against their will. Unlike robbery, which relies on immediate force, extortion often operates through sustained pressure and the implied or explicit threat of escalated consequences if the victim resists. When a private citizen engages in this behavior, it is universally condemned and prosecuted as a serious felony. When agents of the state do it systematically, it is rebranded as plea bargaining and defended as standard operating procedure. In what we euphemistically call the justice system, prosecutors do not primarily seek truth, fairness, or moral resolution. They operate a ruthless legal system, a conviction generating machine optimized for leverage, efficiency, and institutional self-preservation. At its core lies a practice that squarely meets the definition of extortion, the systemic use of plea bargains as a threat, followed by the piling on of additional and more serious charges if the defendant dares
The Trial Penalty Machine
SPEAKER_00to exercise their constitutional right to a trial. This modern torment is the direct successor to one of history's most barbaric legal rituals, Penforte Dor, pressing to death. In medieval and early modern England, suspects who refused to enter a plea had heavy rocks stacked upon their chests until the ribs cracked and they either pleaded or were crushed to death. Today's prosecutors achieve the same psychological, financial, and existential suffocation without physical stones. They simply threatened decades in prison, total financial ruin, and the complete destruction of a human life unless the defendant submits and waives their rights. The sequence is cold, calculated, and devastatingly effective. Shortly after arrest, prosecutors present a plea deal framed as a favor. Plead guilty now and will recommend a reduced sentence. If the defendant rejects the deal and insists on seeing the evidence in open court, prosecutors respond by stacking additional charges, often far more serious, with enhanced penalties and mandatory minimums. Pretrial detention, sky high bail, frozen assets, mounting legal fees, lost employment, and family strain intensify. The defendant is slowly broken until resistance becomes irrational or impossible. Over ninety to ninety five percent of federal and state criminal cases in the United States end in plea bargains. This statistic is not evidence of overwhelming guilt or efficient justice. It is evidence of a system deliberately engineered to make exercising the right to a trial a potentially suicidal decision. Prosecutors openly admit to overcharging, precisely to create bargaining leverage. Defense attorneys describe the process as being handed a loaded revolver and told to negotiate with the person holding the trigger. This is textbook extortion, only sanitized by official robes and legal jargon. If any private individual threatened another with years of imprisonment and financial devastation unless they signed a confession or waived their rights, that individual would be charged with extortion. When the government does it routinely, we call it the system working. The abuses extend far beyond plea pressure. Defense costs routinely reach tens of hundreds of thousands of dollars. Many defendants sell homes, drain retirement accounts, or go into crushing debt. Public defenders, chronically overworked, cannot provide the vigorous defense that a wealthy defendant can afford, creating a blatant class-based injustice. Thousands sit in jail for months or years awaiting trial. Conditions are often deplorable. Detained defendants are far more likely to plead guilty even to crimes they did not commit, simply to escape the nightmare. Exculpatory evidence is delayed, minimized, or technically hidden. Prosecutors exploit procedural rules to wear down the defense rather than presenting a clean case based on facts. Informants and cooperating witnesses are offered leniency deals that reward the testimony prosecutors want to hear. Families and associates face implicit or explicit threats of their own investigations. Strategic leaks to the media poison public opinion and jury pools before trial even begins. The focus is rarely on fairly prosecuting the actual alleged crime with transparent evidence. The goal is to break the human being standing in the dock until submission is the only rational choice. In reality, plea bargains are unconstitutional at their foundation. The Sixth Amendment guarantees the right to a speedy and public trial by an impartial jury. The Fifth Amendment protects against self-incrimination. The fourteenth Amendment demands due process of law. Plea bargaining forces defendants to surrender these fundamental rights under the explicit threat to far harsher punishment if they refuse. A choice made under such duress cannot be considered voluntary, knowing, or intelligent. The legal standards supposedly required for a valid waiver. Courts that uphold these deals are essentially blessing government coercion, turning constitutional protections into commodities that can be extorted away. Any law, statute, court rule, or sentencing guideline that authorizes or encourages this practice should itself be viewed as criminal legislation. When the state creates a framework that allows its own agents to threaten citizens with amplified penalties for exercising enumerated constitutional rights, it is engaging in organized extortion under color of law. This directly violates the spirit and letter of the Constitution, which was written to prevent exactly this kind of governmental abuse of power. The founders explicitly rejected systems where the accused could be crushed into submission rather than fairly tried. Modern plea bargaining represents a profound betrayal of that vision, a legalized form of official corruption that turns prosecutors into extortionists and judges into enablers. This reality exposes a fundamental truth. America does not have a justice system. It has a legal system, a procedural machine that prioritizes conviction rates, political careers, and bureaucratic efficiency over truth, proportionality, or the protection of the innocent. Prosecutors enjoy vast, largely unaccountable discretion. They decide who to charge, what to charge, and how aggressively. Qualified immunity, weak oversight, and voter incentives that reward toughness protect even the most abusive practices. The constitutional safeguards envisioned by the founders, presumption of innocence, right to jury trial, due process, have been transformed into bargaining chips to be traded away under duress. Hundreds of people later exonerated by DNA evidence and innocence projects had previously pleaded guilty. They did so not because they were guilty, but because the legal rock stacked upon them left no breath for resistance. The damage is profound. Shattered families, communities that view the system as predatory rather than protective, distorted crime statistics, wrongful convictions, and eroded public trust. Resources are squandered on over prosecuted cases while violent crime in many jurisdictions goes under addressed. As long as we tolerate the stacking of legal indictments to crush defendants into submission, we cannot honestly call this justice. It is legalized brutality, state sponsored extortion dressed in the language of procedure. The rocks have changed form, but the objective remains the same submission or destruction. This is not an aberration, it is the operating logic of the modern American legal system. When the state uses the threat of amplified punishment to extort waivers of constitutional rights, it ceases to serve justice and instead becomes one of its most sophisticated and dangerous predators.
Pressing To Death And Modern Parallels
SPEAKER_00Implications Hosea chapter nine verse nine They have sunk deep into corruption. God will remember their wickedness and punish them for their sins. File this under nuts to trust prosecutors, as they have lost the right of approval. Ninety-five percent Hear that again. Over ninety to ninety five percent of federal and state criminal cases in the United States end in plea bargains. Prosecutor extortion comes from the brutal history of pressing. Pressing with rocks. The brutal history of Penforte d'or. Penforte d'or, law French for hard and forceful punishment, was a form of judicial torture used primarily in England's common law system from the medieval period through the eighteenth century, when a defendant accused of a felony refused to enter a plea of guilty or not guilty, stood mute. Authorities subjected them to gradual crushing under heavy weights, usually stones or iron, until they pleaded or died. Origins and Legal Purpose The practice traces back to the statute of Westminster in 1275 under Edward I, initially called prison for te door, strong and hard imprisonment. It involved harsh confinement and starvation to compel cooperation. By the early fourteenth century it evolved into physical pressing with weights. The condemned was typically stripped naked, or nearly so, and laid on their back on the ground or a board. Arms and legs stretched and secured with cords to the corners of the room or pit. A sharp stone or board sometimes placed under the back to intensify pain. A heavy wooden plank or door laid across the chest. Rocks, stones, or iron weights piled on gradually, starting with what the person could bear, then adding more. The process could last hours or days. Officials periodically asked for a plea. If none came, weights increased until suffocation, crushed organs, or spinal fracture caused death. Some victims reportedly endured stoically, others screamed for mercy. Like today's prosecutors, this method was not mere sadism but a calculated tool of a flawed justice system, one that valued procedural consent and property rights so highly that it was willing to crush a human body to obtain them. In the end, the weight of stones revealed as much about the law's priorities as it did about the resolve of those who chose silence. Over
How Charge Stacking Works
SPEAKER_00ninety to ninety five percent of federal and state criminal cases in the United States end in plea bargains. Just as medieval authorities use literal stones to crush resistance and force a plea, contemporary prosecutors often employ a metaphorical version, charge stacking, also called overcharging or charge piling. They file multiple, overlapping, or maximally severe charges for a single incident or course of conduct. This dramatically inflates potential penalties, creating immense pressure on the accused to plead guilty rather than risk trial. How it works. Prosecutors have broad discretion in charging decisions. From one set of facts, they can throw the book by layering horizontal stacking, multiple counts for the same act, e.g., charging every individual instance in a series of minor thefts separately. Vertical stacking, applying overlapping statutes while escalating penalties, e.g., basic drug possession plus intent to distribute, conspiracy, school zone enhancements, and firearm possession if applicable. Enhancements adding mandatory minimums, repeat offender designations, or consecutive sentencing provisions. The strategy leverages the trial penalty. Sentences after conviction at trial are often far harsher than plea offers. Defendants face decades or even centuries in prison on paper, versus a reduced plea deal that might mean years or probation. Many plead guilty, even if innocent or weakly evidenced, to avoid the crushing risk. This method is not mere sadism, but a calculated tool of a flawed justice system. In the end, the weight of the laws, symbolized by the stones, reveals as much about today's legal framework and the sadistic punitive ambitions of prosecutors, judges, and police as it does about the deliberately dumbed down juries that now populate courtrooms. Ways prosecutors extort defendants, threatening to file additional and more serious charges if the defendant refuses the initial plea offer and chooses to go to trial. Charge stacking imposing a severe trial penalty by dramatically increasing recommended sentences for those who exercise their constitutional right to a jury trial. Holding defendants in pretrial detention for months or years under harsh conditions to pressure them into pleading guilty just to escape jail. Draining defendants financially through exorbitant bail, frozen assets, and crushing legal defense costs until they are too broke to fight, withholding or delaying exculpatory evidence while dribbing out discovery late to weaken the defense. Coercing witnesses and informants with promises of leniency or threats of their own charges to produce desired testimony, leaking damaged information to the media to poison public opinion and force a plea through reputational destruction. Overcharging defendants from the outset with inflated or multiple counts to create artificial leverage in negotiations. Targeting family members or associates with investigations or threats to increase pressure on the main defendant, exploiting mandatory minimum sentences and sentencing guidelines to make the threat of trial terrifyingly real and life destroying.
Laws That Would Criminalize It
SPEAKER_00If laws were honest. If laws were honest, the following would apply to today's prosecutors and judges who use extortion. Specific laws that would apply to prosecutors if plea bargaining were treated as extortion. If the courts in public recognize plea bargaining for what it is, systematic state sponsored extortion. The following federal and state laws would directly criminalize these practices. eighteen USC Section 1951 Hobbes Act criminalizes extortion that affects interstate commerce, including obtaining a guilty plea, a valuable concession, through threats of enhanced punishment or under color of official right. eighteen USC Section eight seventy two specifically prohibits extortion by officers or employees of the United States. eighteen USE 873 Blackmail makes it illegal to demand something of value, a guilty plea, under threat of informing or taking action against the person. eighteen USC Section eight hundred seventy five covers interstate communications containing threats to injure or extort. eighteen USE Section two hundred and forty two deprivation of rights under color of law punishes government officials who willfully deprive citizens of constitutional rights, such as the right to trial through coercion or threats. eighteen USE Section two hundred and forty one Conspiracy Against Rights applies when multiple officials, prosecutors, judges, police conspire to deprive defendants of their rights through plea extortion schemes. RICO eighteen USE nineteen sixty one et seek could be used for a pattern of racketeering activity involving repeated extortionate plea practices in a prosecutor's office. State extortion statutes nearly every state has its own extortion or coercion laws e.g. California Penal Code Section five hundred eighteen, New York Penal Law Section one hundred thirty five dot sixty that mirror federal definitions and would apply to local prosecutors. Under these statutes, prosecutors who engage in charge stacking, trial penalties, or coercive plea tactics would face felony charges, prison time, fines, and disparment, exactly as any other citizen would for the same behavior.
Disclaimer And Final Scripture
SPEAKER_00Disclaimer for the Consider Podcast The Consider Podcast in any associated activity are concerned only with repentance. Repentance is the starting and end goal. Because the Consider Podcast fears God, we seek to warn all men and women. The views, interpretations, conclusions, and opinions expressed on the Consider Podcast, its website, Enamclaw.com, or www.consider.info, articles, episodes, or any affiliated work are the personal conclusions of the host and our guests. These are formed after first picking up the cross, followed by deep prayer, serious reasoning, examination of available evidence, scripture, and history. These opinions and interpretations do not represent any official position of any church, denomination, organization, ministry, institution, or political ideology. The Consider Podcast. Is completely independent and is not affiliated with any religious body, external ministry, or political group. Listeners and readers are strongly encouraged to search the scriptures daily to test everything, hating their own lives and being crucified to their own thoughts and opinions, in order to reach a genuine spirit led conviction concerning the truth. See first Thessalonians chapter five verse twenty one, Acts chapter seventeen verse eleven, John chapter twelve verse twenty five. In short, all views are offered as personal opinions expressed in the fear of God, desiring to walk in his righteousness, holiness, and self discipline. Regarding persecution and content, any reference to persecution or persecution by prosecution reflects the opinions and possible firsthand accounts of those individuals who are witnesses to and live through the terrible events described, including what they experienced as systemic corruption. The content provided is for informational and educational purposes only. Nothing on this podcast, website, or associated material should be considered legal advice, nor is it a call to action, rebellion, or harm to others. Final reminder Matthew chapter ten verse sixteen I am sending you out like sheep among wolves. Therefore be as shrewd as snakes and as innocent as doves. The Consider Podcast Examining Today's Wisdom, Folly, and Madness. www.consider.info