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Episode 33

Heffner Brothers Season 1 Episode 33

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NCAA Football
-round 2 playoff recap
-Look ahead to next round

NFL
-Week 17 recap
-Look at current playoff picture
-Week 18 picks and Playoff implications

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Yeah, what about dude? What's up? big chilling big chilling. What would you say midway through the college wall playoffs? Yeah, midway through now. I happen up the quarter finals. So some great games. Crazy that all four teams that had the Bioweek all lost. That's a that they're gonna look at that. They're gonna look at that now and they're gonna be like, wow, it's happened that Bioweek disadvantage. They said that during the game. Yeah, they're like, oh, if you're going to be disappointed enough, you don't play well. They don't play. They don't play. They're not playing competitive football for what? Three weeks. Two and a half. You're gonna lose your head. Two and a half, three weeks. Yeah. So yeah, he's not, too. All those games, too, they were only pretty much one close game. And that was Texas and there's one state. All the other ones really went that close. That was just crazy. Can I believe that game? Yes. Well, here's what it is. Well, that game was a, I tell you what, a lecture. That was one of the best. What they say they said was the best game of the college football all year. All year, they're saying it was the best game just the most entertaining towards the end of the year. You get to watch that one, Chris? Which one? Arizona, Texas, Arizona, state, Texas. No, I did not. I was insane. Literally fourth and 13. They dime the back of those. Is that, what was that to force double overtime? Wasn't that, yeah, that was for double overtime. That was for double overtime. Yeah, that was for double overtime. Wow. Yeah. That was insane. Good, good, good, good. Good, good, good. What? The game after though, I think, yeah, the most upsetting thing about it. Everything is the best football game that happens every year. Get spoiled by Ohio State, unfortunately. They had to fuck up like that, man. The roads both a beautiful game and why they little how state do that? Yeah, that was bad. They just came out and Oregon looked bad. Did not look good at all. They were like that's, if you like say a team like that look flat-footed because of the five, yeah, that definitely Oregon. They looked very rough, but even the Penn State and Boise State, I mean Penn State just they ran, but Boise State never stood a chance. I don't think they stood a chance to start it. I think it was much better for the band like you could games were a bit at this point when I said I hope for both of them. I think Arizona State for Boise State, like a bunch, and I think Penn State and Ohio State would have been a great match. Penn State or Ohio State first round? So we still might, I mean, hopefully don't get that. So hopefully with Notre Dame now winning, going to play Ohio State or going to play Penn State, hopefully Notre Dame can show them down. Yeah, there's Notre Dame game. This was good. Notre Dame's defense looked good. I mean, their offense, yeah, they didn't know the passing game going, but they were just running the ball and they could not be stopped. The passing looked good early in the game. I don't think the quarterback you went out of 100 years passing. Did he? I don't think so. I think he had like just under 100, but he had over 100 years rushing as well. Well, so shocking. Yeah. I got a point. I'm going to hit him. Picks in college, I'll buy, I know you're what you've gotten three out of four right for the final four, right? For me? Yeah. Yeah, I've got him all right besides Ohio State. I know Ohio State losing in the first round, so. Chris, you had an iron gun. We're cooked. I'm done. I saw the championship too of Texas, Bito, Ohio State and Notre Dame, Bito, Penn State. I got Notre Dame beating Penn State. Yeah, your final wasn't your final's Oregon first Notre Dame. Yeah, yeah, Oregon first Notre Dame was your final. Yeah, Oregon winning. Yeah, you got it. Listen, we talked about this. We said this. We said we think the college football shouldn't have been spread out. The playoffs should not be spread out so much. Yeah, I could see a week break and then start it and just boom, boom, boom. And the championship game should be on New Year's Day. Do you think what if they instead of breaking them up in the balls, what if they just picked a whole a playoff field? Oh, picks the same field and just play the whole playoff right there. Yeah, if they picked a nice enough field, yeah. Yes, they'd have to pick a good field. They have to pick like Cowboys stadium, Harling 10 or they would pick like Caesars, don't make the New Orleans would be fine. Fucking Rose Bowl. Rose Bowl would be actually the Rose Bowl. They're not using it besides for the Rose Bowl after the season's over. So Rose Bowl would be awesome plus in the field. Or pick two fields. Yeah, let's go. Let's go. It's an East Coast. OK, you're shining. They could do like Miami that they could do. Rose Bowl. Rose Bowl. So hard to see them. Fantastic. Yeah, those would be cool. I don't know. That's not bad. I just know all I need to do is they need to not have such a large gap and they need to maybe like you guys. Yeah. They need to. Also, nothing happens during Army Navy week. So like they need to do something that week. All that's really going on is that game. I'm not mistaken. Maybe I'm, I don't know, maybe I'm missing something. I think it was that pretty much. But they need to do something about the schedule because that long of a break like the college football needs to be done January 1st. Yeah, that's the last championship games on January 1st. Yeah, here's that. That's the holidays. Make it work somehow. I know people want to see their families. But you guys are playing for national championship. Mm-hmm. Probably on the holidays, which probably makes it more special. So, you know, they're already playing games on the holidays. So might as well play the championship on the holidays and just move the schedule back. Interesting to see like. If they had like, obviously, let's say they had like a big NFL match up in a big college room match up on like one of the bigger holiday good days like what they had game like Christmas than another professional game like Christmas. It would get more viewership. Yeah, you'd be surprised. I actually beat them depending on who's playing. So it really take away from like a whole other sport. So like NBA that plays on those days would get no view. Yeah. Any child or any if they're fighting definitely none. Yeah, football definitely taken both. So. They need to do something about the length of the playoffs. So. Yeah, because I get you want to get a by-weep, but you don't want to three week by week. This is so. Yeah. All right. Rest of the playoffs, I think we're pretty aware of who's in the final four, but so Irish. We got Penn State versus Notre Dame and we got Texas versus Ohio State. Ohio State is pretty scary looking. But I think it's going to stung me a good game and it's also going to be a home game for Texas in our like 10, so we will see. We got a lot of text people there. I think it can be very heavy or. Yep. So. Go check it. Um, and then Notre Dame Penn State, where's it? Uh, that's in Atlanta. What is the game? What was it? Cotton Bowl. No, I'll say, I'm bolder. I thought, oh, we got the all-station. Or no, it's the orange bowl. It's the orange bowl. Yeah, it's Miami, I think. There's the orange bowl is Miami. Yeah. So I think they're in Miami for some of my finals. It's the orange bowl in our day. Notre Dame look good. Also, I think Marcus Freeman is a good coach. So I think he's a really good coach. I think he's a very smart coach. Yeah. I think he'll be able to take on. I think he'll be able to take Penn State. Yeah, fine. I think he'll be fine. I think it'd be a tough game. Don't give me a rock. I'll still be tough. Yeah, depending on how Penn State's offense comes out, our defense religious level. The door of the game was a tough game. They were a great team, still with having, you know, second string quarterback. But the sanction corrected pretty good. He's still through for 300 yards. So. Pretty really? Yeah. He was right around the brink with 300 yards. Holy shit. That's great. They just couldn't score. So. Oh. I'll say, but go Notre Dame, go Texas. I so hope Texas did not go to a house. They catch it. Yeah. It's not. Did it. Mark. I'm going to do it. Did he all the monitor of how state? Yeah. I'd be pretty legendary though. If it's a house they know, Notre Dame and the national championship. And he beats them. He beats his all the monitor. Yeah. That would be nice. That would be pretty good. It would be a good revenge game because we fucking lost them last year. That would be a good revenge game. It lost him last year and we shouldn't have literally on the last four seconds game. This will be sweet. You sweet game. Not a big Notre Dame fan, but I'm calling for Notre Dame in this in this situation. Notre Dame or Texas, I don't care. Just not fucking a house date. Please. That'll be a good. Yeah. I agree. I mean, I'd rather any of those three teams went over a high state. So. Okay. Uh. Moving on from college, I mean NFL from last week. Some pretty good games, crazy games. One of the week 17. Yeah, still around the last week coming up. But week 17. I know I went 12 for four in my picks. I know Logan also went 12 for four in his picks. What did you go for? Yeah, what did you go for? 12 and four. Oh, shit. So. What's your record now, Chris? Total record 174 82. Logan's is 183 in 72. That's what mine's 164 and 92. Oh, shit. This could be a wild one. A lot of people sitting out. Yeah, this week's going to be tough. But I mean, last week we saw some pretty crazy games. We saw a freaking bills, just shit on Aaron Rogers. Oh my gosh. That was great to watch. Destroyed them. Don't need memes. Not so many memes. You see the watch? Watch them as they walk off the field. Yeah. I'm glad to. Yeah. That was. Yeah. That was. That was. He was smart, too. That's what he said. That's what he said. He said, "Well, the judge is so bad." That's what they get when I look at the quarterback around the team. Yeah. So bad. I see if he picks the draft and expires them, too. How do we? He needs to get out. I don't know. I used to really pull for him, but he's pushing his waiter on too much and he's not getting a result, unfortunately. He even needs to go in most stacked quarterback of all time. Great way to end it. Maybe he needs to go on another spiritual journey. He could be. He's a player of mine. After he'd become in the sack, King. These sacked King. Yeah. Move on to our picks pretty much. I don't know if there's any other games from week 17 you want to talk about. No. I mean, only Crazy Ones was Minnesota beating Green Bay. They almost blew that game, too. Okay, the Green Bay came back on the last point. The last point. Great games in the big season. So. The Colts one ended up being a little bit of a surpriseer. Yeah, they let Frickin Giant score 45 points on him. Yeah. I would hold that one out of their ass all year. That was a must win game for the Colts, too. Like, well, no, what they were dealing with the bangles and Broncos game. Yeah, that was a good game. Yeah. Bangles staying alive barely. Then I don't know the lines in the San Francisco game was pretty damn good, too. Yeah. So it was Commanders and Falcons. OT. Oh, yeah. That Commanders and Falcons OT game. That was exciting. Kid to see Michael two rookies going at it. Michael Passenger. That's still a Commanders to play off. So they're in the playoffs out of that. But. We teamed up a lot of playout contention for some teams, right? Oh, yeah, there's a bunch. I was going to. Once we get to the next level. So. Yeah, it's a little, a little more. A little more. Because most of the spots are. But it's not. Yeah, pretty much them are. There's only like the last spot for the AFC. It could still be up for grabs or some shit happens, but. Is it kind of like fucking rare that it happens or what? No, I guess I want to get to the picks. All right, we'll get to the next level. You got me excited. All right. Well, let's go. What's the first? We'll go off by the games then. All right, we got. The Browns are in Baltimore. So this is a port game for Baltimore. But this is a must win for Baltimore. So they should play all their guys because they must win for Baltimore because if they win, they clinch the division. And if they lose and Steelers win, they lose the division. So it's a must win game for Baltimore. So Baltimore needs to win this. They need to win this to win the division or they can lose and Steelers lose and they still in the division. But they're going to be playing all their starters this week. Because they dropped from the three to the five seed if they were. Yeah, so they still they still get the division. If they lose though, if they lose and Pittsburgh loses, they'll still get the division. They'll get the tiebreaker. Yeah. Yeah. But so they have to it's I think they're going to be. Since they're the first game, they just want to go out and win the game and just clinch the division right away. So I don't think they're going to be benching any of their guys unless they get up by a lot of points. They are favored to win by like 20 points. So. They can be an ugly game. So it was. Baltimore, the spreads like 18 and a half or 19. What the fuck? Yeah, they're favored by a lot. So yeah, I'm definitely taking Baltimore in that game. Who do you got, Logan? I'm going to take Baltimore as well. Yeah, I'll Baltimore. Yeah. All right, next game. Cincinnati at Pittsburgh. So this game is very huge for both teams because Pittsburgh if they win, they'll get in Baltimore loses. They win the division and they get home field bench. If but bangles have to win to stay alive. So bangles, they need to win and then Denver has to lose and then Miami needs to lose their tie. And if those both happen, if my loses are ties and Denver loses and bangles win, bangles get in. So that's tough. That is very tough. But honestly, I mean, they're playing great. That's the way that that's no team wants bangles in right now. No way of see team wants to make it in. So the bagels get in. They are going to be there. They're going to be that dangerous team where even if they play on the road the whole time, they're going to be a good ass team that nobody's going to want to play first round. So I wouldn't want the bills to play this. So for this week though, I would if it's home, I'm still going to take Pittsburgh in this game just because I'd like to see Pittsburgh win. Obviously, so more of a heart pick, but obviously with the way they plan, not so good, but we'd be in the first time. I think we could beat him again. You're going to take Pittsburgh? I'm taking Pittsburgh. We just switched up. I think the couple days ago, you were standing here, you're going to take Cincinnati. I didn't just do it. I take Pittsburgh all year. I'm going to take them the last week as well. Wow. I might take Steelers to two. I don't want to fuck a big bull's in. Bad enough to change the room. I think the Steelers have just not lived up to the expectation. It's a mushroom game. They got to go all out this game soon. Okay, but if the Steelers lose, they still make the playoff. Yeah, but they're still going to their position. They're going for home field advantage though. They want to win that division. Oh my god. I don't think that Joe Burrell is going to steal his fate. I think he's going to give himself a chance. I think he's going to win. Cincinnati. It grows. All right. All right. All right. So this game Atlanta is a must win if they want to stay alive. So Carolina obviously not playing for pretty much anything besides spoilers at this point. So the Falcons. Let's see. So they got 50% chance if they win. They got a win and the books have to lose. What? Yeah, unlike. Yeah. With just a crapshoot. Yeah. So it's going to be. I think Atlanta is still going to play hard in this game obviously because they have some to play for like click Carolina. So I'm going to take Atlanta. I'm going to take Atlanta too. Give me Atlanta sweet. Next game. Washington at Dallas. So I think the only thing that could really happen at this one, I know Washington locked it up. So this will determine if they're going to be the six or the seven seed. So they're going to be playing I think. So yeah, because if they're the they obviously don't want to be the number seven seed playing the best out of C team. So they already and Dan Quinn already came out and said he's starting all the starters. So. And start everyone. So I'm definitely taking the commanders. Yep. I would expect Chris to take the commanders. He's taking over games. Yeah. Yeah. Chicago at green. I'm taking green Bay. Green Bay is going to play for seeding. Yeah. You're still playing for. So they don't want to be the lowest seed either. So especially with commanders winning and all that. So. Yeah. Because if commanders win and green Bay loses green Bay would fall to that set of the. Pretty sure they would fall to the they would fall seed. Yeah. So. Did they they played each other right. And there's a green Bay. Yeah, they played this year didn't they? Yeah. Chicago Chicago. What do you what do you talk about? What Washington green Bay they played this year didn't they? I think they did. Because right now if they're tied. I think if they're tied. Washington has a high breaker though. Yeah, it's just a timebreaker. So right now yeah it says. If they win they need to win to beat the Bears and they need the commanders to lose. So if commanders win there I'm actually going to be the seventh seed. Yeah. So. And then he's going to go play. Number one team. So which is more which is fairly already locked up the two seed. So. Yeah, they already locked up. Fill your locked in the two seeds whoever's the bottom whoever the seventh seed team is is playing Philly week. We're playing them week. Round so. Damn. Yeah. So you don't want to be the seventh seed right now. Go to Philly. So. That's why green Bay is going to be playing all their guys this week as well. I'm pretty sure he hasn't said anything yet. La Flore. But. The six seed they'll be playing Tampa Bay or would it be Tampa Bay or would it be the who'd be the other. I've seen. It can be Detroit. No, it'd be Tampa Bay. No, Detroit or Minnesota. I get the one by. Whoever wins that division gets the week one by because they both have high records. So I think it's who else would it be then. Yeah, it would be. Would it be the Rams? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, it would be the Rams. I guess. So. That's why it would rather play the Rams and so far. I would go to Philly and play it Philly. So they're going to be playing for that spot. Yeah, so. Yeah. So. But yeah, I'm going to take green Bay in Chicago. Yeah, I'm thinking green Bay too. Yeah, green Bay Houston at Tennessee. I'm taking. So this game Houston is not playing for anything. They're already locked in winning their division. They have no seeding that can change for them. So they're going to be bunching everyone. I think they haven't said that. I think yet, but I think they will. I'm. Tennessee not really paying for anything. Just player incentives. So I think this will be kind of a boring ass game. I'm actually going to take Tennessee in this game. Oh, so. Is Pollard playing or no? They're sitting for right now. He's supposed to play us, but if he does it, obviously, it's like a ton of young spirits. So. Nothing game. Houston. Who's who's sitting the people? Yeah, they're going to be saying they have to say anything, but they're not playing for anything. They can't. They're locked in at their seed. So there's no reason for them to play their starters. So. So is he. He's not going to play out. I think the only person I could see playing in maybe mixing, because he's like a hundred yards away from getting his incentives, but they might bench him so he don't get his incentive. So they don't have to pay in that bonus. So. So. That's what they're making the playoffs in here. Trading his ass. They've had mentioned them. We'll see. So they might play mixing. I think he's a hundred and seven yards away though. So he'd have to have a good game still. Well. Give me Houston. So I've got a play in the advantage to someone one of these teams. If they decide to lose that. 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I'm going to take, I'm still going to take Philly, just because I think they're benched. I think they're benched, just still better than them. See this one, I got a feeling John's going to win this game. I do think they're going to win this game, but I don't know. And I would love to see them put safe one in just for the first quarter, just to run a touchdown against his old team again. It won't, but I'd love to do it. I'd love to see it, but I'm going to take Philly no matter what. I think their secondary is better than Giants first strings. I'm going to stick with Philly in this one. What do you got? Yeah, give me Philly. Sweet. Next game. Who are Leeds at Tampa Bay? This is a must win for Tampa Bay. Yeah, I saw. I think I was going to win this game. Perfect setup for Baker this game must win playoff. Pretty much. Let's go have a fail day. So yeah, I got Tampa Bay winning this one. Yeah. I came to city at Denver. Denver, baby. Yeah, Denver. Yeah, they already said Kansas City is benching everyone. So Kansas City gets pretty much determined. Do we want to play the Broncos possibly in the playoffs? We want to play fucking Bengals. So yeah, they're going to, they're going to probably just let Denver win this one. So I'll give it to Denver. And we got Chargers at the Raiders. Chargers are still playing for seeding. Raiders are obviously not playing for anything. So this will determine if the Chargers could get the fifth of the sixth seed. If they get the fifth seed, they'd play the Texans, the sixth seed, they'd play. But Baltimore, yeah, they'd play Baltimore Pittsburgh. So really? Yeah, so you got the sixth seed. So they're going to be playing for that fifth seed because they want to play Texans. Because Texans are obviously looking rough right now. So I got the Chargers beating the Raiders. Me too. Yep. There we go. Seattle at Los Angeles Rams. I'm pretty sure this is a must win game for Seattle. Seattle. Are they already out? Yeah. So the Rams already locked into. So I guess this could be a no game then. So they're going to be benching staff. That's right. Who can accue in Cooper Cup and staff are all getting benched. You just got to throw at least 200 yards to get his like $2.00 bonus. Yeah, it's too many dollar bonus. Yeah. You just got to throw at least 200 yards. I'm actually going to take it. I'm taking Seattle this game. Yeah, me too. Is everyone saying? Yeah, for Anders. For Anders, I said all those people in. Yeah. I'll see you guys. Neither started. So yeah. Miami at the Juts. Juts are. Yeah, Miami also needs to win this game if they want to play off hope still. So they'll know if they don't have play off hope by the time this game comes around. True, but I mean, too. They already said too is not going to be playing. So. To win that plan. Yeah, so. Or now I want to take the jets. I don't know. I'm still going to take the jets. Or I'm still going to take the dolphins just because I think the jets look like shit. I just want to get this. Riding Rogers is completely checked out. I fucking get in Miami. I don't. Yeah, Miami. All right, San Francisco, Arizona. This game means nothing. Well, teams are. Oh, Josh Dobbs starting against his old team. No Brock birdie this week. Yeah, no Brock birdie. So he get hurt. I can't remember if you got older or older. I know there's some people that have incentives. I know Kyle Murray needs to do some stuff, but. I'm just going to be taking Kyle Murray and there's all. I'm going to be taking San Francisco. I think Josh Dobbs falls out. I'm not still going for you. I'm not still going for 49ers. And then we got the game of the week. Yeah, we do the Jags and Colts. Yeah, you know. Did you did you pick the Colts as well? Did you take the pick? I'm going to do Colts. So the game of the week. Yeah, we got most win games. This determines if you're going to win the division. Have the number one seed in the buy or you lose. You have what 14 wins on the season and still only get a wild card spot. Is this something you're sort of like you traveling to or Detroit? It's going to be a crazy game. It's going to be a crazy game. Yeah, this is going to be a high scoring game. I don't know guys, but this might be the game of the. I hope it is or I hope it's Minnesota blows out of the water. So I'm taking Minnesota. See they're going to be real good or it's going to flat one. Yeah, I don't think it has. I don't think it's going to be in the middle. I can see this game being like 40 something to like 50 something or 47 something. It's going to be a high scoring game, I think. I think those games could be like 70 to 80. Yeah, these defenses are all kind of looking rough, but these offenses have been electric. So you can see Justin Jefferson of a 200 yard game, two passing or two receiving touchdowns and Jared go through for like four or five passing touchdowns. You know what? So I'm not going to give it up on them now. I think they're going to get the job done at home. Give me Detroit. I think I think he's going to have balls to the wall. I think he's going to throw it. Minnesota. Sam Donald. Sam Donald, baby. Sam Donald. Give it to him. Give that man his money. Some tell me the lines are going to choke. Yes, sir. It will choke. Do it. Yeah, fucking Vikings. Yeah, sure. All right, Pixar. And it can be a pretty kind of not bad week. I mean, Saturday will be good games with Baltimore and Steelers. Obviously, Baltimore wins kind of runs the Steelers game, but Baltimore loses somehow to Cleveland. That'd be exciting. But they have Sunday games are kind of boring until until Sunday night. Yeah, there's only Saturday and Sunday. There's no Thursday games. Obviously tonight and no Monday games. Yeah. You're a good week. So you'll be a great week. You guys have anything else really? Go bills. Happy New Year. Happy New Year. Yeah, 2025. 25 officially now. You got anything else, Logan? Go Buffalo. Let's do it. All right. Peace. See ya.