Ep. 10 Healing from Within: Christie's Quantum Wellness Journey

In this conversation, Carli and Christie discuss their personal journeys in the wellness world and the challenges they faced as registered dieticians. They also delve into Christie's experience with her son's illness and the role of energy work in his healing process. The conversation highlights the importance of self-love, the power of belief systems, and the connection between mind, body, and spirit. In this conversation, Carli and Christie discuss the human experience, the power of belief work, and the evolution of Christie's work from the medical world to becoming an expert in energy healing. They explore the use of muscle testing and pendulums to tap into the subconscious and identify the root causes of physical symptoms. Christie shares her journey of integrating different modalities and expanding her consciousness to provide more efficient and effective healing for her clients. They emphasize the importance of resonance and finding the right approach for each individual. Christie's work focuses on releasing energetic blocks and upgrading subconscious programs to align with one's true desires.

Takeaways

• Self-love is a transformative practice that involves recognizing our connection to a higher power.
• The book 'Dying to Be Me' by Anita Moorjani offers valuable insights on self-love and the miracle of our uniqueness.
• The traditional role of registered dieticians in hospitals often falls short of addressing holistic wellness.
• Energy work, such as emotion code and mind-body-spirit release, can be powerful tools for healing.
• Challenging experiences can lead to personal growth and a deeper understanding of ourselves and the world. The human experience involves experiencing a range of emotions and challenges, which are opportunities for growth and learning.
• Belief work, such as muscle testing and pendulum use, can help identify and release subconscious blocks and root causes of physical symptoms.
• Holistic wellness involves addressing the mental, emotional, spiritual, and physical aspects of health.
• Finding resonance with a healing modality or practitioner is key to effective and efficient healing.
• Upgrading subconscious programs and releasing energetic blocks can lead to alignment with one's true desires.

Chapters

00:00
Introduction and the Power of Voxer

01:00
The Importance of Self-Love

12:38
Christie's Son's Illness and the Role of Energy Work

30:17
The Human Experience and Roller Coasters

31:06
Belief Work and the Hamster Wheel

32:09
Healing and Not Being Alone

33:31
Tapping into the Subconscious with Pendulums

37:01
Identifying Root Causes with Muscle Testing

39:45
The Potential of Energetic Healing

44:28
Being a Conduit for Source Energy

48:05
The Energetic Root of Physical Symptoms

52:19
Embracing the Unknown and Letting Go of Guilt

54:19
The Body as a Reflection of the Subconscious

58:13
Finding Resonance in Healing Modalities

59:05
Upgrading Subconscious Programs for Alignment

REFERENCES:
Christy IG:  https://www.instagram.com/joyquantumhealing/
Chrity's website where you can get her self-love practice: https://www.joyquantumhealing.com/

Book: Dying to be Be

Carli's Info:

Website: www.wellnessbycarli.com

IG: @wellnessbycarli

Transcript

Carli (00:00.622)
Welcome to the show, Christy.

Christie (00:02.834)
thanks Carly. I'm excited to be here.

Carli (00:05.518)
I'm so excited you're here. So what's cool about today is that Christie is on my VIP list. And what that means is if anybody uses the app Voxer, so Voxer is a walkie talkie app and it's changed my life because it helps friends keep in touch. It's like a voice note, but I don't really know why it just is so much easier. Would you agree? It's just easy. So, interesting.

Christie (00:27.698)
Yeah. Yeah. But you're the only person that I talked to on it.

Carli (00:33.326)
Well, I consider people on my Vox or my VIP because you just, these are the people I talk to the most. So that's just to start this whole thing off. Christie's on my list and we Vox her all the time. And that's kind of how this relationship started. so Hala's Christie is a holistic wellness practitioner and energy worker. And we are probably just going to be all over the place today, but Christie, I would love started with an icebreaker. I want to start doing this with people.

Christie (00:36.786)
You

Carli (01:00.814)
What is making you feel good right now? And that could look like anything. It could be a wellness practice. It could be a new shirt. That just is fun for me to talk about. What's making you feel good right now?

Christie (01:13.522)
Ooh, I like that question. And my latest thing is, you know, I was really into self -love and I still am, but seeing myself connected to God, like that there is no separation between me and God has been really, really transformational for me. And that's, that's what's making me feel amazing right now. Yeah.

Carli (01:40.078)
I love it. I just got some goosebumps. I think we both read this book. Did you read? I bring it up all the time. Anita Moore Johnny book, Dying to be Me.

Christie (01:50.418)
I got it because you told me to get it. And it's beautiful.

Carli (01:52.974)
Okay, I swear I've never talked about one book more in my life. So it's basically, long story short, this woman just dies of cancer and has a near -death experience and comes back. But really at the end, once the whole book is read, it's about self -love. And I need to read it again. When I was reading it, I was like, in the middle of reading it, I was like, I already need to read this again because there's so much gold, it's hard to retain. But you finish the book realizing how

amazing you are basically. It's the self -love thing.

Christie (02:24.402)
Yeah. Yeah. I don't remember if I was in the middle of developing the self -love practice that I developed and then got the book and then the book like gave me so many jumping off points to sort of create a system. But, or if I read it and then was like, I have to create a system like, you know, cause self -love is this like,

label that people slap on everything and it's really so much more intimate and and not just getting your hair cut and not just like, I'm gonna go take a nap. Like it's an actual relationship and a conversation with yourself on a daily basis. And anyway, that book was very helpful for me too. Like, this is actually a needs to be a system more so than just I'm gonna go be nice to myself for five minutes.

Which is great too.

Carli (03:19.95)
I'm so glad you, yeah, totally. But I'm so glad you said that, because it also sounds cheesy, self -love, like, ooh, love yourself. It's reframed, and it just lands really differently after that book. It's about the miracle that we each are, and our essence, or our soul blueprint, or our uniqueness is a part of a bigger scheme, and each of us is so special. And she just does a much better job. But anyway, that book, I'll bring it up probably every episode.

Christie (03:49.522)
You

Carli (03:49.742)
What I wanna do is start talking about kind of how you started in this wellness world. So we're both technically registered dieticians, which to me is so hilarious because if anyone knows the training and what actual most registered dieticians do, it's so different than what you and I do. It's just, I tell people it's how I got my license. It is not what I do really. So can you just kind of share?

what that looked like for you starting as an RD and you worked in the hospital and I think you worked with kids, right?

Christie (04:18.355)
Yeah.

Well, it is fascinating and I've always been fascinated by your professional journey because like, how did you escape the years of like hospital work? Like when, you know, this was, I graduated from college in 2003 and the really, there were two options. Maybe you could get a highly coveted, those people never left those jobs in a wellness something, but everything else you had to go work in the hospital.

And you were connected to the kitchen. So you were often referred to as dietary and people just thought that you threw mashed potatoes on trays, you know? So, so my entire career as a dietitian was in the, both the acute care and also I did some home health, as a side gig, but how you sidestep that. And, you know, we are in two completely different lanes as

Carli (05:00.846)
That is so true.

Christie (05:19.73)
dietitians and I took me a long time to sort of veer into your lane. So I was probably

It was probably 2017 before I found something that made sense to me. Although a couple of years into working in the hospital, I was like, this isn't what I thought it was going to be. You know, I really thought that, you know, as a teenager, I had idealized what nutrition was and how important it was and not saying it's not, but just the impact that I thought I was going to be able to have on people.

I was not having and I was so disappointed and so disillusioned and I was a single mom. And so I was kind of stuck. You know, now I've graduated from school and I got to work. I got to pay bills. I got to put shoes on this kid. Like who's gonna, who has time to try to go back to school and figure that out? Like I'm the only parent in the situation. So,

but I always knew there was something else and it took me, I thought I wanted to go to PA school. So I did a little bit of that. I thought I wanted to do something else. I met a, what was she, an integrative nutrition, which you've referred to that. Have you referred to the IIN, like the integrative? Okay, yeah, I thought so. When I listened to your first podcast, you talked about that and I didn't remember if you and I had talked about that on any of our,

Carli (06:37.806)
Yes, that's a program I almost did, yes.

Carli (06:46.862)
Hmm.

Christie (06:47.954)
conversations, but there was a lady that graduated from that program and she was fascinating. I was like, how do you know all that stuff? Like I graduated from college and they didn't teach me any of that.

Carli (07:02.51)
That's what's so interesting. You're asking how I found out too, because I so potently remember, I knew I was switching careers from fashion and I knew I wanted to do something. I guess you could call all I knew was the natural holistic world. Like I knew nutrition. Nutrition was like the link that connected me. But if someone had come up to me and said, yeah, functional nutrition or functional medicine, I had never heard that term. So when I was Google searching, I was finding nothing. The IIN was the only thing I found and it resonated.

But you know, it's, I don't know how many years it is, but you come out and you've got like a certificate. And I was like, I'm doing bigger things than a certificate. I'm not going to be a coach. But that was the only thing that I couldn't even, I didn't even know what words to search. And yeah, my story is interesting and I can share it too, but let's just share a little bit. Like when you were in the hospital in R .D., what is something that you would do?

Christie (07:38.642)
Yeah.

Christie (07:55.73)
Okay, so I worked with adults for many years and then I kind of also because of being a single mom, I was really trying to push for, cause I had to have like more than one job all the time. I mean, I didn't get paid enough as a hospital RD to actually pay for rent and food and all the things without being in debt. And so I was

also working for like a home health company and doing consults and going to people's homes and, and we would call it like a nutrition assessment, right? So you calculate how many calories somebody's supposed to be eating in a day. And then you take a food history and you calculate how many grams of fat and how many grams of protein and how many calories they're eating. And then they go, and then you go, your diet is either meeting your needs or not meeting your needs. And then you take into account like muscle wasting and things like that. So you,

play with their diet some as adults and then if they have underlying disease states, then you're like, hey, you need to lay off the potato chips because of your heart failure or, you know, so you're taking into account all these different disease states. And usually if they're older, they have a lot going on at the same time. They have diabetes, they have heart failure, they have this, they have that, they're on these kinds of meds and they shouldn't be in those kinds of, you know, it's kind of like.

glorified food police and it's so embarrassing to say that like, you know, if they were older and they weren't eating well, we'd throw them on insure or boost, which is like has the worst ingredients, but that's what they told us we should do. And it took me years to understand like what toxic shit is in that stuff and how it can like make people more sick because it's got, you know, all the.

Carli (09:42.926)
soy isolate, soy, it's disgusting. And it's, yes, when I was doing my medical rotations, I just remember food service, that's what you refer to as something they make you do. Food service is painful. You are literally in a kitchen. You are just a, it's just a kitchen job. You're scrubbing dishes, you're ordering potatoes here, one vegetable. It's just not, like, what? So that's one rotation. And then also on the floor on your rotations,

Christie (09:53.17)
Yeah.

Carli (10:12.526)
the registered dieticians just weren't respected. I mean, they had to do some calculations for, what was it, TPN? Which is...

Christie (10:18.322)
Yes, which is total perineural nutrition that goes in the central vein. So like if someone is completely on gut rest or something's happened and they put them on TPN and you know, we talk about that just being like a bag of Skittles, you know, it's just dextrose and then some, they put vitamins and minerals in there and then they'll put a little bit of fat in there and yeah, and protein and protein, sorry.

Carli (10:45.582)
Yep, not real food. And I remember that was like the most complicated thing that came up is, a TPN calculation. But at the end of the day, you go in and someone's miserable and not well and usually doesn't speak English and you're trying to get them to not eat something. And honestly, it's just a big waste of energy and it's sad for these educated people who have done pre -med, right? And we're just being used as these little pawns. So anyway, so you're working in the hospital.

Christie (11:08.402)
Yeah. Pretty mad.

Carli (11:14.638)
And at this point, you weren't trained holistically, right? Okay.

Christie (11:19.378)
No, not at all. I ended up at a children's hospital as a, working in the neonatal, what is that called? The neonatal follow -up clinic. So babies that had left the NICU but still needed and were home but still needed support. And that was probably the most rewarding work that I had done in my entire career up to that point. But we're talking like I graduated in 2003.

and this was in 2014. And then I left briefly and came back as the manager. So then I did less patient care and more care with the staff. I mean, there were probably 30 plus dieticians and then some techs. And so that seemed to be more my wheelhouse. And plus it got me away from the clinical stuff that I had a very hard time. The more I learned about the holistic, the less I could be at the hospital and go, wow, is this what we're doing?

Which is sad to say, yeah.

Carli (12:19.182)
So painful. Yep. So when I think about your story, and I know I don't know all the details of it, but there was a very pivotal moment for you, which I really think is the impetus behind how you are where you are today, working with energy, is when your son fell ill. Is that correct? Would you mind sharing that story? And I know it's multifaceted and complicated, but really there's just some juice to it that I think really explains the power of

Christie (12:38.002)
Yeah.

Carli (12:49.006)
the belief system and intention and what Christine Northup I just heard was dubbed bio symbolism. She called that when there's a manifestation physically of an emotional root cause, which I thought was just a fabulous word. But I kind of want to hear, would you mind sharing that story of your son?

Christie (13:04.21)
Yeah.

Sure, sure. And we can circle back to this, but I think it's important. It's an important part of my journey is that I was in a cult and it was a very widely accepted cult, but I was in a church that was very culty and I was also engaged to be married. And the same week that I got engaged, my son fell ill with this really weird, he came home from band.

practice on a Wednesday. I remember it was Wednesday and he was like, mom, my feet are like burning and itching at the same time, like stinging. And he had these like red dots on his feet and it looked like rash. So we called one of those like dock in the box kind of, whatever you call that. Like we didn't go anywhere. We just did like a virtual, virtual thing. And so we got steroid cream, put it on there and it got worse.

Carli (13:56.974)
Bridget care.

Christie (14:04.69)
And by Friday, I think he had tried to go to the football game that day because he was in the marching band for football and he's a junior in high school at this time. And just that Sunday before I had got engaged and he was involved and like, it was a weird deal and we can talk about that or not, but it was, I ended up like breaking it off the night before the wedding. Like, but all of these scales started falling off my eyes.

at this time, when, you know, after he'd been sick for a little while. but I've never seen anybody be in pain the way that he was in pain. So his feet swole up. We, I ended up having to take him to the ER after, because I think he came home from, no, he called me from the football game. It was raining that day. He was like, mom, I can't, my feet hurt. So I went and picked him up from the stadium. And by the time we got home, he was beyond uncomfortable.

And I think he started yelling or I forget, but it got so elevated. It was probably midnight. And we, I was just like, I don't know what to do about your pain. It's not nothing I'm giving you is helping. So, and I had been on a holistic path myself for maybe a year or less. So I had been learning about holistic things and applying them personally knew about functional stuff.

for about 10 years, but this was a different application. And then, so I knew like, I have to take him to the ER anyway. And they admitted us and we stayed there till Sunday. And by Sunday, he had these black, it was like pooled blood underneath the skin and his feet were swollen to twice the size of what they normally were. And he couldn't walk. The only way he could walk was like on his tippy toes.

And thankfully he's not a big boy because I don't think I could have physically helped him the way that he needed to be helped. Cause I had to help him to the restroom. He couldn't make it to the bathroom by himself. So it was just such a quick turn of like this boy that's like super active and super, you know, just doing all the things. So like now he can't walk. Well, they discharged us and didn't give me crutches. Didn't give me a wheelchair. Didn't give me nothing. They told me to give him like ibuprofen around the clock.

Christie (16:25.874)
which I knew at the time, like I'm not gonna give him ibuprofen around the clock or we're gonna get stomach ulcers. You know, that's not gonna be great for his stomach. I don't remember.

Carli (16:34.446)
And at this point, they didn't give you a diagnosis.

Christie (16:37.298)
I think they told me Hinox, Shawnline, Purpura, which is just the name of the guy that it's an autoimmune thing, but it's usually happens in little kids. And now that I've been on Facebook a little bit, there's a group of like adults that deal with this day in and day out for a year. Like there's no, they're not getting, it's not resolving. So anyway, a whole nother week goes by. We're back in the ER the next Friday night.

And I had given him, stupidly, I had given him like, he was in so much pain that I gave him something that I think he'd gotten for having his wisdom teeth pulled, like a narcotic of some sort. Well, he turned green and passed out in the garage on the way there. I mean, like me trying to get him into the car to go to ER and he's got these... I think he just, he just cannot tolerate narcotics. Like we've already just like...

Carli (17:28.206)
Like an allergic reaction?

Christie (17:34.322)
I've told him, if you ever go to the hospital, like tell him you cannot tolerate narcotics. But at the time I didn't really know that. And so he passed out on me in the garage. So I'm, you know, like I've got him in the garage and this dummy that I'm engaged to is like just staring at me, like not helping me. And that's when I knew I was like, this is not voting. He's just watching me like struggle. Anyway, that's a whole other story. But, that night we went to the ER and

Carli (17:58.062)
Mm, mm, mm.

Christie (18:04.018)
He's bawling. He's got me. He's got my sweatshirt and he's screaming in the ER and he's bawling because he's hurting so bad and they're having to give him like IV morphine and I thought that the doctor was going to call CPS on me because she was so mad that I gave him this one narcotic from that was prescribed to him from, you know, what are you doing? Like, how dare you? You know, whatever, whatever, whatever. And so

Carli (18:26.958)
and

Christie (18:32.69)
we had been transferred to a different area away from that doctor because I made a comment about let's not put him on Protonix. He's, you know, I want his stomach acid to be where it needs to be. So now they just think I'm some kook. But in the meantime, my son is like,

You can't even touch him because he hurts so bad. And I remember thinking, I can't believe nobody knows what this is. I mean, I already knew by that point that nobody knew really what to do with it, that lots of people have it, but that there's no cure. And I was just like, this is not going to be my new normal. You know, it's just not. And, and we just cried together on while he was laying on this table. I mean, bawling and the nurse is just looking at me and I'm like,

I'm up here too because this boy hasn't walked for a week. His feet are worse than they've ever been and he's got blisters everywhere. He's got these blood blisters on his knuckles, on his elbows, on his knees. Like it's disturbing what his body was doing.

Carli (19:40.174)
pictures you show on your Instagram for people that wanna kinda see it. They show, I mean, it's alarming, it looks horrible.

Christie (19:48.914)
Yeah, yeah. And he was just, I think it was the pain that was, that was just the thing that, you know, I would take it in a minute. You know, I would, how can someone, you know, and the pain was something that continued and continued and continued, you know, so they ended up putting him on. We had a long hospital stay that time.

And they did biopsies and now I've got a rheumatologist on the case. Now I've got a wound care doc because these are like full thickness wounds. And we're having to like, now I'm his wound care nurse two or three times a day. I'm having to do dressing changes and you know, they finally gave us a wheelchair and I don't think he'd been driving that long. You know, he waited a while to get his license, but now he's like driving to school.

and calling his friends to come out to help him like get out of his car and get into his wheelchair. And you know, it was just so surreal, like that kind of complete 90 degree turn from like your normal life to like now all of a sudden you have this handy, you know, handicapped, invalid child person that, and nobody has answers. I mean, it is one of the most devastating.

places I've ever been in. I can't think of a more devastating time in my life than that time. Yeah.

Carli (21:14.574)
It's truly traumatic. And I mean, I can feel how painful it still is to think about. So he was in a horrible, horrible place. You as a smart mama, you know, finding resources, your mind has been open to holistic wellness. But at this point, you've tried all the doctors and you're at a stopping point. When did things start shifting for him?

Christie (21:38.258)
So we did do like a crap ton of supplements. Like I think I had him on handfuls gobs of tinctures and supplements for six months maybe, but they also had him on steroids and that seemed to be the only thing that calmed it down. But you know, steroids isn't, you can't take that stuff forever. And his gut, I mean, unfortunately just got so tore up by all of the steroids anyway. So I can't remember when it was.

but I actually was exposed to emotion code first. I was doing a Kundalini yoga type thing with this gal that I really liked and she did a, you know, you just sign up for a little classy poo and I did a classy poo and it was about some sort of like an emotion code process. And I thought that was magic. You know, it was the first time I'd ever heard about, well, my practitioner at the time does

Applied kinesiology, which is a form of muscle testing. but this was a little different. This was kind of like tapping into your intuition. And that to me was just beautiful. And then I learned about mind, body, spirit release who Tracy Southwick who's in Houston where you are brilliant created this system of, clearing negative emotions and patterns.

in the person's being. So I signed up and got certified and I think I had finally had hired someone who did that before I got trained. I can't remember the exact timing, but we kind of did that for Jake a little bit. And that's when I started seeing some positive shifts was with the energy work. And so, he also had some negative

weird like it's almost like he got sick too and so I knew something was off and I just decided like I'm not putting this in anybody else's hands. I have to learn all of this myself. I'm going to figure this out because I knew something he was getting sick too not from the MBSR but there was something else. Anyway.

Carli (23:56.206)
And you had mentioned in the beginning that you were going through a breakup, you were obviously dating someone that wasn't aligned, there was a religious situation where you probably had some religious trauma. Do you think that was part of the energetic root cause of what he was going through?

Christie (24:13.586)
No doubt. I haven't actually like had the courage to completely look that up yet because my perspective has continued to change that, you know, in the last two years of me doing this, you know, my perspective changes every like three weeks. So, you know, you kind of get a bigger and bigger perspective, the more you learn and see and do, and then you like have to zoom out again.

And then you have to zoom out again and then you have to zoom out again. And it's like, am I ever going to have to stop zooming out? But I mean, it's beautiful because you see things come into perspective. I have no doubt that something in his spirit knew that there was something really not aligned. And I think it's what needed to happen for us to get my attention.

Carli (25:01.646)
So you took this insight that something was shifting energetically and you said, mama bear is on the case. And so then you started doing work on him, energy work.

Christie (25:10.706)
I started doing energy work on him as soon as I learned a little bit, you know, I just learned a little bit and we started working on it. And, and I also talked to him about, you know, I was like, I can, I can help you with this. I can support you. I am supporting you, but I can't crawl inside your head and think different thoughts. I can't, you're going to have to do something. And so I gave him, I don't remember what I got him actually, but he somehow got into breath work.

So he started doing breath work and meditation and really starting to be aware of what his own thoughts were. Because I was like, you're going to have to help us get out of this. Like, you know, and by this point, this is like 2022. He'd been sick for almost four years, three and a half years. Yeah. So he got sick in October of 2018 and I didn't start doing the energy stuff until

Carli (26:01.358)
I didn't know it was that long.

Christie (26:09.746)
the end of 2021. So then, you know, we'd been trying to kind of, we were just in the tumbler, you know, just trying anything and he would do okay for a little bit, but then something would trigger him. And I just knew, I was like, this is not physical. I knew the whole time. I was like, this isn't physical. This is either what you got going up in here, what you got going on in here. Something is not physical that's happening. I don't know what it is. And so,

Carli (26:11.662)
Okay.

Christie (26:39.058)
And I was like, you're going to have to contribute.

Carli (26:39.246)
So what's so beautiful is it sounds like you were going through an initiation and you initiated him, right? You brought the awareness and you're like this, the power's in you. I'm gonna guide you. I'm gonna do my own research. I'm gonna share what I know, but you initiated him and he kind of healed himself. Is that what happened? So tell his healing story.

Christie (27:02.642)
Yeah, I mean, I think that, I mean, he is such a, you know, he's where I wish I was there when I was 21. Good Lord. But he just read voraciously, like he read Joe Dispenza stuff. He read Bruce Lipton stuff. He just got into it. He got into that vein and the further we got away from the cult, the better he did.

So we got away from the cult and he started working on his own beliefs and about himself. And, and I really do believe that between the two of us, you know, he healed himself. I kind of kept feeding him information and you know, I'm kind of like a curb or, you know, like you go to the bowling alley and you get those little bumpers in there. I'm kind of like his little bumper, like, you know, no, get back in the middle.

Carli (27:29.038)
interesting.

Carli (27:52.27)
Yeah, I love that.

And so today he's healthy and he doesn't have that anymore?

Christie (27:59.442)
No, he doesn't. He couldn't even keep a job. He couldn't, you know, for someone who's, you know, those young people, they typically, young guys typically have to do something that's manual labor. It's not like he's some computer genius that can go sit behind a desk and like do all the things. He doesn't even want to do that. He wants to be active. He wants to be doing stuff with his hands. And so the jobs that he was going for, you have to be on your feet a lot.

And his feet weren't allowing him to do that. And now he travels for work. I see him six or seven or eight weeks out of the year because he's gone and he's thriving and he takes wonderful care of himself. I mean, I used to be the food police for him. I may, you know, monitored every morsel of food that went in his mouth and that was just untenable. It was like, how come you don't care about yourself as much as I do? You need to be gluten free and dairy free and taking these supplements and stop doing this.

It ruined our relationship for a while because I was so terrified of us going back to that other place. And that just goes back to, you know, beliefs and subconscious. I had a lot to learn because everything I knew was like, let's control, control, control with the lifestyle stuff. That's all, you know, and then really kind of even veering from that some into

this space of like, it really is this like mind, body, spirit and connection to God.

Carli (29:27.342)
I think that's where it starts for everyone is you start by realizing that you're out of control. So you pull in the reins, you control, you tighten up. Sometimes strictness leads to freedom, but that's the path people start on and myself included. And I think it's totally appropriate because you learn a lot in that restriction. And then you also learn to appreciate how you don't have to be like that in order to be healthy, but maybe you had to kind of go there first, you know?

Christie (29:52.786)
I think we all kind of have to visit our own version of hell before we can know what heaven is. And everybody's hell is different. But I think certainly I have visited hell and I would venture to say my son would say he has too.

Carli (30:00.526)
Mm -hmm. Mm -hmm.

Carli (30:12.462)
Dark Knight of Sol, right?

Christie (30:14.162)
Yeah, and you can't have light without the dark, you know, like, yeah.

Carli (30:17.742)
That's the human experience. Right. And so it's a gift because on the other side, whether you call that heaven or, you know, most people call it heaven, it's, everything is blissful and perfect. And I don't want to say boring cause that is a negative connotation, but I think souls incarnate cause they're like, let's, let's do this. Let's ride some roller coasters. Right.

Christie (30:38.578)
Totally. Absolutely. I totally believe that. I totally believe that we are here to experience all of the ranges of emotions and ecstasy and pain and all of it. Like it's all part of what we're here for. Now, I do think that we can manifest a lot more pain than we necessarily have to. Certainly I have, but...

Carli (30:48.014)
Mm -hmm.

Christie (31:06.13)
I mean, I guess it was just what my soul needed to do. I've been on a hamster wheel a lot. It's like Groundhog Day.

Carli (31:11.022)
Yeah, well, I think you sign up for some lessons ahead of time. I definitely believe that. So just to kind of wrap up your son's story, it really, his belief work, and you mentioned two rock stars that I've mentioned on the show multiple times, Joe Disvenza, Bruce Lipton. I mean, that work is so profound. And so he initiated these things. And so you just saw him, you saw him really just heal over time with him working on himself and you being the Bumpers, right?

Christie (31:26.898)
first looked in.

Christie (31:39.378)
Yeah, he really blossomed and it was amazing to witness. I could not be more proud of him. I mean, you know, we had a few years of what I would say arrested development because you know, you go from, you know, you got at the 16, 17, 18 year old and you know, it's a natural progression for the parent and the kid to start kind of like separating because it's normal. Well, then he gets so sick. I mean, now he's like back to, I won't say an infant, but not mentally, but

He's dependent on me for everything, for the food and for, you know, all the stuff because he's practically an invalid. and I remember one day I was, I was changing the dressing on his feet and he was like, mom, I'm so glad you're here. He was like, I don't know what I would do if you weren't here. Like, I don't, I don't know if I could clean my own wounds. And I was like, baby, you never, I mean, as long as I'm alive, you're not going to have to be alone in anything.

Carli (32:28.91)
Hmmph.

Carli (32:32.75)
Aww.

Carli (32:39.086)
So sweet, even to have that appreciation. He sounds like such a kind soul. But on your story, this was huge because you went from working in a hospital to being aware of holistic to watching your son heal with energy work. And now all of a sudden you find yourself on this new path. And I think this brings us to where we met because there's probably a little gap that you can cover if you want to or not. But essentially,

Christie (32:39.282)
but so sweet. I mean, yeah, yeah.

Carli (33:06.606)
I love the world of energy. I'm always exploring things. And in my practice, I wanted to learn muscle testing to get greater insight into what was best for my clients, what was going on with my clients through muscle testing. And so let me see if I have one here. I used a pendulum. This class was using a pendulum. I don't have one with me. To basically what they call muscle testing. Christy, of course she has one. OK, this is what a pendulum looks like if you're on YouTube.

Christie (33:31.346)
looks like this.

Carli (33:35.918)
And so it's a string, it's like a necklace and there's a crystal on the end. And you can use even a necklace with any sort of pendant. And what you're doing, yes, has a little weight. And anyway, what you do is you are tapping into the subconscious of the energetic field of the client or the person that you're trying to tap into.

Christie (33:44.018)
Anything that has a little bit of weight.

Carli (34:00.11)
and you get what's best for them, what's resonating with them. And so you kind of ask what's the yes, what's the no, there's so many techniques. But anyway, I wanted to learn how to do this on a clinical scale. And so you were part of that test, or that class, and I learned from you. And I know your work has evolved from there, but do you wanna start just talking about how you started in that field doing what I do, which is holistic wellness, using the pendulum to tap into the subconscious?

And I know it's a tall order, but kind of how that's evolved into tapping into a different energy source.

Christie (34:34.258)
Yeah, yeah, absolutely. So I got certified in mind, body, spirit release, and I, was working with a practitioner, Laura, for my own health a little bit. because I didn't know a lot about the root cause, you know, quote unquote, root cause looking at parasites and toxins and on that level. And I would say probably by that point I had been exposed to cell core.

So, cell core had done a muscle testing class too, that I think I had already taken and before I took mind, body, spirit release. So I had learned how to muscle test through cell core and then learned how to muscle test again with mind, body, spirit release. And then when I was working with that practitioner, Laura, I kind of just propositioned her one day I was full time at the hospital and I just said, Hey, if you need anybody to, you know, do some,

mind, body, spirit release sessions for some of your clients. Cause she was really talking about integrating the root cause work and you can't just focus on the toxins and the parasites and the metals and all this stuff that you have to include. And I loved that. Like it was just, yes, like let's marry these worlds of the mental, emotional, spiritual, and the physical, right? Like I loved that. And she had kind of developed her own method of energetic release of

Carli (35:56.142)
Yes. Yes.

Christie (36:03.538)
toxins or whatever it was, it was definitely revolutionary at the time. And she was having some success with that. And so she ended up hiring me and she was doing this class that I had taken the class, I had taken her class and then I worked for her. And then you were in the class that she had me on as her employee to sort of like assist and just be there. And that's how we met. And I want to say, did you have a session with me?

or your friend Rachel did, Rachel Hebbett, yeah. So your friend Rachel.

Carli (36:32.462)
No, Rachel did. Yeah. So yeah, I was just going to clarify, because I don't know if it's clear for people who don't know what this is. What you can do is, and you can correct me if I'm wrong, but the work you were doing is essentially like, say I come to you and I'm having tons of sinus congestion and headaches and I haven't done lab tests. And you're like, can you just help me find the root cause? And you might take the pendulum and you would test, is this

metals, is it mold? okay, it's mold. And you're having like a co infection, but the root cause is maybe a belief that, you know, low self worth or something, right? Is that like a poor man's example of what that could look like? Okay.

Christie (37:15.218)
It's very, very close. It's very close. There was a system that had been created and as I worked within it some, I started expanding on that. I created a template to marry both of those things. kind of, kind of did less and less MBSR and more and more just like energy work with what I was seeing show up for people. you know, the thing with the mind, body, spirit release modality,

I was doing a lot of those. So I did like hundreds of those. And then somehow with trying to marry that it turned into something completely different. I mean, I don't know if you've talked to other people that have gotten like downloads where they kind of get sucked into this. Tunnel. I don't know if anybody's talked about that yet. I hadn't heard that, but

Carli (38:07.694)
No, but I think what I need to clarify for everyone is that, A, you're a projector like me, which our entire purpose on this earth is to take systems and make them easier for other people. So there's that. And it's the efficiency, right? And you're also extremely intuitive, which we haven't really talked about yet. So I think your work is an evolution of the beautiful MBSR. It's your own version of it.

Christie (38:12.53)
Thank you.

Carli (38:31.694)
where from what I've learned talking to you, and again, she's on my VIP list, so I get to tap into her brain all the time, but you are, in a sense, you're channeling, but anytime someone's channeling, it's you're connecting to source God energy. And so you are a conduit. And because you have worked in the hospital, because you've been trained in some of the holistic stuff, that's what I love about your work. And I love talking to you about stuff because you have the language that I get to talk to you about, toxins and metals and parasites and all these things, but you also,

Christie (38:36.466)
Yeah.

Carli (39:00.846)
understand that there are belief systems that are problematic. There are ancestral issues that are in people's fascia. And there's all these energetic emotional root causes that people are just generally not aware of, right? But you're tapping into the information that you are bringing forward with your own tool that you've created is from the field, right?

Christie (39:26.226)
Yeah. I couldn't have said it better myself. Yeah.

Carli (39:28.622)
I just had a moment. I had to get that out because I know there's we've gone back and forth talking about this. It's so hard to put this work into words because it's kind of new. It's yours and it's a mix of so many modalities. At one point you and I were talking about sacred geometry. We've talked, right? There's all these influences and that's what you were talking about before about like zooming out, zooming out, zooming out because your consciousness is expanding all the time because you are so intuitive.

Christie (39:45.746)
Bye.

Carli (39:56.302)
and I've seen you evolve. And so all of a sudden you've got in this box and then you are like, but outside of this box, there's this concept. And now I have to include that in my work, right? And so that's the zooming that you keep doing.

Christie (40:08.39)
Yes, 100%. And I even like got trained in Psych K last summer. I noticed that your last guest was a Psych K practitioner. So, you know, I got certified in Psych K, but I was so far into my own stuff. I was like, I don't, I had tried the Psych K just as it is. And I even had a practitioner do it on me. And I just kept thinking like, there's a way to integrate this and, and fast forward, like take this.

Carli (40:14.542)
yes! I'm gonna try that soon. Mm -hmm.

Christie (40:34.994)
take this technology and somehow integrate it into what I was already doing because anyway, you're right, I am a projector. Yeah, yeah. And everything kind of has to have a structure. That sort of like energy and channeling, you have to create a structure for it to come through. And that's why you and I have so much fun when we talk is because there's the medical aspect,

Carli (40:42.51)
You've made your own efficient tool, right? Yes.

Christie (41:03.345)
the body layer and the medical stuff. We both have a lot of like medical expertise and history in that, but then marrying that with the more energetic side of things because it is, it is inextricably connected. You cannot have a physical issue and it not be connected to something not physical. I mean, it's just not, I mean.

Carli (41:26.222)
Yes, and so that goes back to, so I'll show you all the tool that I use.

In clinic, there's a book, and I'm showing everybody online, it's Louise Hay, Heal Your Body. And this is perfect for me because it's pretty simplistic, but essentially there's a chart inside. So on the left, let's pick one that's kind of common. Let's say you've got belching. Okay, maybe someone's belching, having a lot of gas. The root cause, energetically or emotionally, is fear and gulping life too quickly.

Christie (41:35.474)
yeah.

Carli (42:01.806)
So that's probably one example. And I know you're familiar with the work of Louise Hay, but I also know, Christy, you've studied, there's so many iterations of this, but that's kind of a good example of like what this can look like, right? Okay, we've got a manifestation of a physical symptom, but there's so many layers of where that can be coming from and you've taken it and you have a lot of root cause reasons for that in your tool. So my next question is,

Something like parasites, which I talk a lot about. I love parasites. Have you found there's a common root cause of that? Or is that just the way it manifests in people? You know what I'm saying? Like, is there something that's

Christie (42:35.474)
Yes.

Christie (42:44.642)
And I actually love this question because I find that there's a lot of information like that book. And in fact, I used that book sometimes to give people a frame of reference because I, when I'm doing a session for someone, it's very, very specific to you. It's not like, all liver problems are anger towards your mother. Like that's just not. And so I, as a someone who has come up and trying to navigate

this field of wellness, you might see a post that is like, are you having sinus issues? That means X, Y, Z emotional stuff. And so you might think, do I have a problem with that? Let me think about that. And so then you're like analyzing, but you could be barking up the entirely wrong tree. You know, so these sort of, this is what this means. I have not found that to be true. And so,

What you asked me was like parasites. Is there a common root cause to that?

Christie (43:51.858)
Yes and no. So yes and no. And I'm trying to think of like what may be a common theme there. But I know that clients like pass parasites after they have sessions with me and we're not taking supplements. I mean, we haven't taken any supplements and people are like passing things.

Carli (44:03.598)
And I think that's.

Carli (44:09.646)
That's why I think I thought of that example for you, because I know you've had conversations where you're like, this happened, and then the next day I passed all these parasites. And it's the same reason I actually use in clinic, there's something called ME support, mental emotional support by Cellcore, because as a non, I'm not, in a sense, I'm an energy worker, right? That's like a whole nother conversation. In a sense I am, but that's not my bread and butter. So I like having a tool.

Christie (44:28.69)
You are.

Carli (44:34.446)
that works on the energetic field without having to constantly refer out people, which I do too, especially if we're butting up against something and we're not making progress. I'm like, well, there's something mental, emotional, energetic at work here. And so, you know, there might be referrals, but I love having a tool saying, you know, let's just put this on the liver or you can put it on scars. We hold so much energy in our scars. And so people have passed actually Tracy Southwick, the person you referred to earlier, I did my training on ME support with her. She's the one that did the presentation.

And she tried it for a year before Cellcore released it. And she has many stories of people passing parasites just using the ME support. And that's not an anti -parasitic formula. It's an energetic formula. And so that's what you're saying. You're like, I'll clear out some mother wound or something, some belief system that you found in your work. And then the parasites, they no longer use your magnet analogy because that's so good.

Christie (45:28.594)
yeah, so I love this and it's what I have and it's similar to homeopathy. I think homeopathy has a very similar

pattern about how they go about their work. And so if you have a, some sort of like negative pattern of some sort, and it's, it's like a, it's like a magnet and it will attract toxins to your body in where it is located in your body. So you might think that, and I came to this with the mold craze and I don't mean craze in a negative way, but like, I kind of went crazy in the house that I'm listening, living in now.

worried that potentially mold might be impacting my son's health because he had not turned that corner yet. And I thought, what if I moved us into a house that has mold that's making him sick? Once I learned how to muscle test, I didn't find mold anywhere for him. And I thought, well, that's fascinating because this is an old house and, and you know, whatnot, but his magnets don't resonate at the frequency of mold.

they resonate at a different frequency. So if everything has a frequency, think of it like a radio station. So mold has a frequency and maybe all the different variations of mold. Candida has a different frequency, viruses have a different frequency, bacteria, parasites. So whatever your special recipe is, that's what your body is going to attract to it. But if we can release these magnets out of your

being, then you're not going to attract those toxins anymore. I have a funny story of like, I don't remember, it was last year, you know, being an entrepreneur, you kind of like, it's hard and a projector, learning how to end the day at a normal time. So I had gotten a message from someone and I instantly like, I'm going to answer them now, even though it's 7 PM, you know, and I've already been working all day, but I'm going to answer them. I start feeling this like trickle down the back of my throat.

Christie (47:36.082)
instantly start coughing and it feels like I've got like post nasal drip just within a matter of seconds of me deciding to write this down. If I didn't know better, I would have thought, God, I'm coming down with something like what, you know, a year before I would have thought I'm just getting sick and it's just now hitting me and something, something. So I don't remember what resonated with, so I have the ability to like test it and look it up. What is it?

And it was something about overworking and something else. And it was a belief that I had that I shouldn't be doing what I'm doing. And so I just had a conversation with myself and in about five minutes, the trickle stopped, the cough stopped. If I hadn't addressed it, I probably would have, it would have turned into a week long thing. Cause that's how all those things start. And that's when I had the idea and it's not original to me, but I just had never heard it before. I won't say that I made that up.

I'll just say like, I had never heard it said to me before in that way, but I was like, I was attracting viruses in that moment because of this energetic emotional feeling I was having about working after 5 PM, whatever that was, right? And it would, yeah, something, right.

Carli (48:48.846)
some self judgment or something, some deep belief. Yes. And that was the magnet that caught the, like, let's call it a virus. And that's also the cool part about, well, you and I, I don't know if it's a projector thing, but we both love efficiency. I think it is a projector thing. And so that's what I think you're always evolving is, well, I could, you know, that might take someone six weeks. Well, like, let's just do it in six minutes. And I'm the same way. I love efficiency. And that's also the paradigm that we're stepping into is,

Christie (49:11.986)
Absolutely.

Carli (49:18.158)
the potential to transmute energy almost instantaneously, access things, manifest things, bring things in faster. And I wish I could speak to that at a deeper level. That's kind of as far as it goes in terms of my knowledge, but there's so much potential energetically for us that we're just becoming more powerful. I think the mind body connection of when we have a thought it can formulate and crystallize faster. And so your work kind of speaks to that where you found the

energetic root cause and you quickly nipped it in the bud and there it went. And that's what you do with clients essentially, right?

Christie (49:53.778)
Yeah. You know, what's so cool is that up until maybe like two weeks ago, I was having to offer these packages of like successive sessions. And now I've gotten it to where it's basically one energetic clearing and two appointments at the beginning at the end. So you get like a month of me, but the fact that I don't have to put someone in some sort of a three month, six month, let's meet every two weeks and like talk the shit out.

That is so exciting to me. And there was just something deep in my heart that knew that that was possible. I just had not gotten there yet. So, you know, I've had, I've had clients that have had, you know, bought packages from me of multiple appointments. Cause it's like, there's all these layers and there's just more layers and that's the new layer. And you know, it's just an onion. And I'm like, Nope, we're going to pull this thing out from the Rudy route. And it's just pretty cool.

Carli (50:54.094)
I love that. And that's how you can collapse time in your healing journey is when you are looking at the body holistically. Mind, body, soul. Yes, there's physical stuff, but there's a mental emotional stuff. And I've done this for so long, and I've always picking up tips and tricks and people and modalities. And what I really believe is everyone has their special sauce. You even refer to it as their unique formula. It has to resonate. Someone might listen to this and be like, Christy is my person, and I'm going to work with her.

magical and there might be someone else that listened to the Psych K episode and like that resonated. To me, it's about resonance and that's tapping into what feels good, what's intuitively right for you. And you know, I've my, my intuitive that I've worked with, she, I, she's kind of like a coach for me. And she even said, she's like, if I ever work with someone, me, Carly ever work with someone, I don't bring them to full healing. I used to just

beat myself up and be so sad and so frustrated and say, why did this path take someone to full healing, this path someone not? And she's like, we just all have different contracts with people. You are not supposed to take people full circle. I might have been a stepping stone in a journey where someone's about to go down the energetic pathway and that's what they're supposed to do. Or, you know, I am it and they wanted to come to this earth and heal physically. And so you are it for them.

And that's where there's no right or wrong. This isn't black and white. It's about resonance. And I totally just had this aha talking to you right now. Does that make sense?

Christie (52:28.878)
It's true. Yeah. I've been in all those phases too. I met people along my journey that met me where I was and I needed them in that moment and they propelled me to the next phase. And so I'm happy to be on anybody's step. I'm happy to be anybody's pit stop.

Carli (52:54.062)
And you and I have talked about this too. I think we both suffered from the anxiety as a practitioner when you evolve so much and you become so good at what you do, you look back and you feel some guilt that you didn't know then what you know now. And did you have a disservice to that client? Because six years ago I wasn't addressing parasites first or working in a drainage. And the freedom that I've gotten that I've talked to you about is they got what they needed then from that version of you. That's that was it's just so aligned and that's

Christie (52:58.962)
yeah.

Carli (53:23.47)
stepping into trust and surrender. And it releases so much shame and guilt and worry because I gave them all I had and that's exactly what they needed right then or else they wouldn't have found me, you know?

Christie (53:35.186)
Yeah, you've helped me immensely with that because I've struggled with that a lot and you're the one person that continues to remind me of that. And I don't think I ever thought of it that way until you said that to me, maybe, maybe that was last summer. I don't know, but it's so true. And I have to keep letting myself off the hook of like what I didn't know when I didn't know it.

Carli (53:56.43)
because you're changing so much and you've evolved so much and you're getting more downloads and your consciousness is expanding. And because you're such a caring person, of course that's what I'm gonna be your first thought is, my gosh, I worked with someone two weeks ago and I just found this out. But guess what? None of us know it all. And the reason that I know this is because someone imparted this knowledge on me and it was so freeing that I'm just passing it on. I also am not the originator of that thought. But that's kind of how things are original, right?

Christie (54:19.09)
Yeah.

Right.

Carli (54:23.854)
It's all from source. We just download these different, what some people call them, neutrinos or whatever. Okay, so.

Christie (54:26.994)
Yeah.

Well, you were probably the person in my life that was available to be able to say that to me because I don't, you know, I can't think of anybody else who might have said that or thought that or been able to express that to me the way that you did. So.

Carli (54:43.502)
What's the benefit of Voxer? Y 'all get your own VIP list because it's just, we might go three, four weeks without talking and then we'll go every day for three weeks talking. And it's just this beautiful, I mean, I have friends that I've reconnected from college that I haven't seen in years and now we're talking all the time now and it's, I don't know, it's just a random side note. It feels really good. It feels easy because it's really hard to catch me on the phone, but I can send a voice note 30 seconds in between.

Christie (54:45.778)
I know.

Carli (55:09.134)
and you still get to connect and you hear my voice and I hear your voice. And so we just get all these intimate moments, which are really, really amazing. Okay, so just to finish, there's so much gold here. Can you just share where people can find you, Christy?

Christie (55:23.314)
Okay, I am at Joy Quantum Healing on Instagram. I have a website that's also www .joyquantumhealing .com. I think I'm going to be starting some vlogs on YouTube. So we'll see what that looks like. I'm excited. Just some small episodes maybe about like going into more depth about what we talked about. Those kinds of things, you know, like just connecting.

Carli (55:48.302)
love that.

Christie (55:51.794)
the body to the rest of it, because I think we all get stuck looking at the body and we're missing the point. I think we're missing a lot. The body is just, the body has to reflect what's happening in the subconscious. And so if you think about our computers in our phones, our phones are constantly getting new updates that we have to run on the computer.

Carli (55:54.222)
Yes.

Christie (56:17.586)
And so our, think of your subconscious as like an operating system, whether you have a PC or an apple, you know, you can't, you can get new thoughts and new experiences and read books and do all the things. But, if your subconscious is still at windows two, you're not going to be able to do windows 11 things on a windows two machine. You just can't. And so that is definitely something that I wanted to.

like just leave here on this is say that your body is just reflecting what's going on in your subconscious. And to simplify it even more, something that's come up for me is that, you know, it's either a separation from yourself in your subconscious or a separation from God in some kind of a way and not to make it religious. But, you know, there's so much more I could say about that. Maybe we can talk again, you know, but.

Carli (57:16.558)
Absolutely.

Christie (57:16.882)
There's so much there. And so if you're just looking at the body and not looking at what's in your subconscious, which is very hard to do because you don't know what you're thinking. You don't know what you, that's why it's in the unconscious. Basically, you're not aware of it. And so it's one of my Psych K teachers was like, it's like pushing the accelerator and the brake at the same time. Like you're not going to go anywhere. Like you're making all these

Carli (57:31.15)
The subconscious is basically the subconscious, so you're not aware of it.

Christie (57:46.674)
choices, but if your program doesn't allow those or it's not safe or whatever it is, which really still comes down to are you separated or not from yourself or from God? And so, so my work is meant to sort of like give you that upgrade so that you can go do the things that you know you want to do that you think are right for you. And you're not going to be,

impeded or obstructed by outdated beliefs and things like that.

Carli (58:19.854)
I love that. That software analogy makes so much sense to me. And it's very freeing. Yes, it's tangible. And it's also freeing to realize, well, it's not just my thoughts and me and my willpower and all these things. It's these programs. That's a beautiful place to end. And I will link your website. I will link your Instagram. And I will also link, I think you have a self -love practice somewhere. Is it on your website?

Christie (58:24.21)
It's so tangible.

Christie (58:44.818)
It's on my website. It's attached to if you want to get newsletters, which I haven't written any newsletters yet, but if you want to do that, or I think it's even on my practice better. You know, if you click a link to do an appointment, there's a free self love workshop that I recorded and it's on YouTube. So that's fun. I like that one a lot.

Carli (59:05.422)
Amazing. That one's really, really good. So I'll make sure to link that so people can get a taste of the essence of Christie. Well, thank you so much for being here today, sharing your genius, sharing your energy. And we will see everyone next time on the Wellness Frequency.

Christie (59:09.682)
Thank you.

Christie (59:17.17)
Thank you.