Use Light to Heal Your Skin and Your Existence

Your skin is not just reacting to products, food, or hormones. It is also reacting to time. Dr. Stacy Shillington sits down with circadian light expert Rudy Nassif to explain why the skin is a clock-regulated organ and how the light entering your eyes can quietly drive acne, inflammation, poor sleep, and that wired-at-night, groggy-in-the-morning feeling.

Rudy shares his personal turning point after years of fatigue, depression, and feeling “broken,” followed by a dramatic shift living with natural daylight and real darkness on an off-grid farm. From there, we break down the fundamentals of circadian rhythm: morning sunlight helps set the brain’s central clock, and darkness after sunset allows melatonin to rise. We also talk about why melatonin is more than a sleep hormone, how blue and green light at night can disrupt your repair biology fast, and why “eight hours” of sleep is not always equal.

We go deeper into mitochondria, energy, and the idea that modern indoor lighting can stress the system that powers healing and skin renewal. You will also hear practical strategies for building sunlight resilience safely, including how to use sunrise, sunset, and solar noon, plus what to do in winter when sunlight is limited. We wrap with Rudy’s approach to daytime, evening, and nighttime lenses to manage artificial light, along with simple bedroom rules to protect sleep quality.

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Skin As A Circadian Organ

SPEAKER_00 0:00

Welcome to Naturopathic Beauty's Clear Skin Sessions, where we heal your acne from the inside out. Hello, everybody, and welcome to the Clear Skin Sessions. I'm Dr. Stacy Shillington. I'm a naturopathic doctor. For the last 20 years, I've been healing the skin, and this podcast is for you on your clear skin journey to help you really understand the fundamentals of achieving clear skin. And I am beyond excited about this podcast episode today because I'm going to teach you the foundations, one of the biggest foundations of healing the skin. And I have a very special guest with me today, Rudy Nassif. And he's actually joining me from Mexico. He is a circadian light expert. He has a fantastic story. So I'm going to let him get into that in just a moment, but I want to just kind of drop a huge bomb on you first. This is probably something that you have not heard of before, but the skin is actually a clock-regulated organ that operates on a 24-hour timing system. And this is the circadian rhythm. The skin is, the skin responds to light signals. And if you can get this right, this is actually going to transform your skin healing journey. So that I just wanted to lay that out first to let you know that this discussion on light is so important for you. And welcome, Rudy. I'm so excited to have you on the clear skin sessions.

SPEAKER_02 1:36

Yeah, thank you so much for having me. It's a pleasure.

SPEAKER_00 1:40

Yeah. So Rudy has an amazing personal story of transformation about how light actually changed everything for him. So, Rudy, I'm wondering if you would just jump into that story so we can learn a little bit about you and the magic of light.

Rudy’s Night Scroll Wake Up Call

SPEAKER_02 1:56

Absolutely. So I'll I'll bring you right with me to a moment uh 1 a.m. March 2017. I'm laying down in bed next to my former partner in our dark basement in Canada, scrolling through my phone. And uh the blue light is shining on my face, my eyes are literally burning, and I'm feeling drained physically and mentally. But I'm wired and I can't stop scrolling. So suddenly a video popped up on my feed. I almost skipped it, but something made me click. Artificial light is killing us, and I'm like squeezing my brain, barely understanding what Dr. Jackruz is saying. But I wake up the second day, and there's this one sentence that keeps echoing in my mind you can't get healthy in the same light environment that made you sick. Yes. And I was like, wow. Like, could this be the reason for everything I've been going through? And at the time I was struggling with lack of energy, constant fatigue, depression. And uh this question led me to a seven-year Odyssey where I've been studying about the light problem. And I even found that Vivare is to solve this problem. And usually when I talk about the light problem, most people think to themselves, oh, he's probably going to tell me about why the blue light hurt my eyes, or why I should be stopping screens one hour before bedtime. And if that's what you're thinking, I want to invite you to go on a deeper dive with me because that's there's just like an absolute surface. The light problem is a lot more nuanced than simply wearing cheap blue blocking glasses during the day or even blocking you know, screens one hour before bedtime. And um, what I learned, Stacy, is that the quality of our life, like every aspect of it, whether it's our energy levels, our skin, our sleep quality, is entirely dependent on the quality of the spectrum of light that is entering our eyes every single day. And frankly, I wish somebody had told me this when I was a little kid at school. Uh, because uh growing up at school, uh I was like really struggling. And uh I was labeled with ADHD. The classroom it felt like a prison cell. I I did not want to be there, so I turned into a troublemaker. I was asked to leave seven different schools, and uh it was very like really like funny and challenging, and like a journey that uh had left me puzzled because no teacher could believe that sitting under those fluorescents was frying my brain on the inside out. I knew it. Yeah, and um as I grew older, I I became exhausted from fighting and resisting. So I did the most heartbreaking thing imaginable. I literally gave up on myself, and I turned into a creature of the night, staying up very late, doing drugs, scrolling on social media, partying. I was very low on dopamine, and then I would wake up the second day feeling tired, low on energy, and unmotivated all day long. And uh no matter what I tried, martial arts doing Wim Hof, climbing freezing mountains, minus 20 degrees. I even tried every diet imaginable. I cut down on all processed food and sugar. I then tried veganism, then moved into ketosis, carnivore diet, ancestral diet, and I was taking all the best adaptogens and supplements. But still, I felt the same.

SPEAKER_01 6:42

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 6:44

And that's when I frankly decided to leave my career as an engineer and uh to travel and and discover a way to reconnect back to my to myself, the self that I knew as a kid, that vibrant, vital self that was inside of me. And uh this is how I ended up being in Canada and uh in this dark basement with my former partner watching the life-changing video. And frankly, being in Canada was a very challenging time for me because beside the cultural shock, it was winter time, it was very dark, it was very cold. I was surrounded by artificial lights everywhere, and at the time I had no idea what those artificial lights were doing to me. So I became deeply depressed and even suicidal. And um my partner was really desperate. So after she heard me talking about that video from Jack Roos, she did her due diligence, she came to me and she's like, Rudy, pack your stuff. We're going to volunteer on an organic farm with indigenous people up north in Quebec. And I was like, volunteering on a farm? I mean, how is this going to help me? I had no idea. I was so doubtful. Although I didn't have any other any other hopes or or things to do. So I hopped on the car and we're driving for seven hours. And uh when we finally arrived to this farm, it was nighttime, and uh there's no electricity, no artificial lights, and frankly, something I haven't witnessed for many, many years. Like uh a canopy of twinkling stars, so brilliant, so alive. It felt like wow, like it felt like I was communicating with the universe for for the first time. We set up our tent, went to bed, and on day one, May 2017, I wake up feeling exhausted, like my body is so heavy. I don't want to be outside, I don't want to be talking to people. But then on day three, something absolutely unexpected happens. I wake up, and for the first time in my entire adult life, I feel like my body is completely rested and overflowing with joy. Like I I literally couldn't help but smile. I was like, wow, this is new, like this is different. And uh the night owl in me who used to stay late until 2-3 a.m. every single night. Guess what?

SPEAKER_00 9:44

You started getting up early in the morning, anxious to start the day full of joy and excitement.

SPEAKER_02 9:53

I was I was sleeping shortly after the sunset, yeah, literally with with with with no effort made, and waking up at dawn like like with an overflowing sense of joy and energy. It's like wow. And uh frankly, Stacey, like the moment that literally shook me, and it still brings me goosebumm. I was in the field early in the morning, um, cropping, uh weeding the crops. The farmer walks over to me, and he looks me in the eyes, he plays his hand on my shoulder, he's like, Hey, Rudy, like I just want to say, like, what a powerful focus you have. I've never seen anything like it.

SPEAKER_00 10:34

From an ADHD kid.

SPEAKER_02 10:36

Yep. And like, Stacey, this moment like it swallowed me. Like, literally, I disappeared into the vacuum of space. And I realized, and I came back like, and I was like, wow, like I was like, I'm looking up the sky and I was like, wow, like everything I thought to be wrong with me, my ADHD, my depression, my chronic fatigue. I was like, wow, like it wasn't about me, like there wasn't something wrong with me. I realized it was my light environment.

SPEAKER_00 11:07

Oh my gosh. Your story. Okay, keep going. I'm gonna let you finish and I'm gonna get all excited.

SPEAKER_02 11:13

Yeah, I mean, like it was it was something like massive for me. And um when I got back to the city after after this trip, you wouldn't believe my happened. Within within a matter of a few weeks, it all comes crashing back at me. The night owl tendency, the fog, the depression. So it's like in this moment, I was like, I'm not going back to that place. I looked myself in the mirror and I made a decision. And I I I became like a mad scientist with the with the farm becoming my laboratory. So I kept traveling between the city and the farm for over four or five years, living with indigenous people in a way that is in complete alignment with nature's light and dark cycles. And uh, I was documenting every shift in my sleep, in my energy, in my mood, and devouring every book I could find on the science of light. And I learned so much, and this is when I realized that like the number one thing that most people are not paying attention to is light, and it's the most fundamental thing that literally determines every aspect of our well-being. And no matter what it is that we're doing, if that foundation is corrupted, I like to look at it as the soil of our well-being, where the roots of our well-being is in this soil, and if this soil is contaminated, no matter how much nitrogen and uh and supplementation we add to that soil, it's contaminated because the physics of nature from light and from water and from other stuff are completely corrupted due to the modern way of living.

SPEAKER_00 13:10

This is this is huge. This is massive. I mean, I mean, I we've evolved. We evolved in a very specific way with light. You know, we were we're meant to live outside, we're meant to live with the rhythm of the sun, lightness, darkness. But most of us live in cities and are it's completely backwards. And I mean, your story, it just has me, I'm feeling so many feelings inside, to be really honest. I'm feeling excited and you know, so happy to share this message, but I'm also feeling really sad at the same time because I know so many of us are living in cities and we're really kind of trapped in a system. And it's not always easy to get ourselves out of this system. So, I mean, your story is one of so much hope and so much excitement. And I, but I do know that there's tools that we can use to to mimic, you know, light a bit, but but you oh my gosh, what you did is just a dream, and what you discovered is just so important for everybody, everybody. Thank you for sharing that story.

SPEAKER_02 14:23

Yeah, I mean, I I truly resonate with you about our modern way of living, it's completely backwards, and the the way I like to visualize it is we're living upside down, and how is that? Because go back to only a few hundred years ago, as as we as we as the sunset, imagine this, you'll be sitting around a campfire, 10 locks of warm, flickering light. This is what your biology is expecting after the sunset, and this is the light that I was exposed to on the farm for the first time in my entire adult life. Yeah, now contrast this with the living room of most people today, including my living room before I went to the farm. We have LED lights in the ceilings, TV is glowing, the phone is in the hand, even the light of the fridge.

SPEAKER_03 15:20

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 15:21

Like this is not 10 locks of natural brightness. We're getting 500 to a thousand locks of concentrated blue light. And the brain is thinking it's midday at midnight.

The Circadian Clock And Melatonin

SPEAKER_00 15:35

Yeah, this is this is disastrous for our biology. It's disastrous for everything. You're right, it's a completely upside down world. So let's talk about what's actually happening when okay, first of all, let's talk about what the circadian rhythm is, because this is what gets completely out of whack when we're living in an environment that's not natural for our biology, which most of us are, other than Rudy, who is living the complete dream. So, so Rudy, just to explain what the circadian rhythm is.

SPEAKER_02 16:09

Yes, absolutely. So, circadian it comes from the words circa and dia. It means about a 24-hour cycle. And that's the cycle that we all go through in our day. We all have a 24-hour cycle. We experience the the light and the darkness. But here's what's really cool. Inside of each of us, we have trillions of cells. And each one of those cells, whether it's our skin or um in our in our brain or in our eyes, we have a clock sitting in front of it. And all of these clocks are literally synchronized by one central clock in the brain called the circadian clock. This clock literally tells us what time of the day it is and it gives us instruction on what to do. Should we be awake, going out and about, having peak creativity, or should we be sleeping, healing, and rejuvenating? So you can think of it as um this whole thing as a musical symphony. Just like in a musical symphony, you have a conductor who's reading the musical notes and giving cues for the musicians on what to do by reading the musical notes. In our case, as humans, think of the conductor as the central clock, it reads the musical cues from sunlight and darkness, and it gives the instructions for the trillions of cells in our body about what to do and when to do what. Yes. So remember, we're not designed to do everything at the same time. Our body is either making pha or burning fa. It's either alert or asleep, it's either optimizing energy and metabolism or optimizing sleep, repair, hearing, and rejuvenation. All of these cues come to us from this circadian clock. Now, what does this circadian clock need in order to function properly? It needs two things that we have completely missed in our modern world. Number one, when you first wake up, you need sunlight to enter your eyes to reset this clock and tell your brain that the day is starting. Number two, from that moment on, you have an internal timer in your body that essentially is looking for the second cue that tells your brain that the day is ending. What is the second cue? It's darkness. The moment the sun sets, there's a symphony of colors. The blue and green lights start slowly fading away and turning into orange, red, and the sky slowly flips into darkness. And that signal literally tells our nervous system that the day is ending. And as a result, the body starts secreting pinealatonin. Now, why is that extremely important? Because pinealatonin is not only a sleep hormone, it's a very powerful sleep hormone, but it's also the highest antioxidant in nature. It's anti-inflammatory and anti-cancerous. It's also the hormone that activates the cellular cleaning crew, autophagy, apoptosis, and mitophagy. Now, what are those fancy words? Atophagy and apoptosis are essentially the mechanisms that allow our cells to repair broken cells and to replace them with new cells. It's our longevity program. Our skin cannot truly repair if we don't have enough melatonin circulating in our body at night. Every time we are exposed ourselves to artificial blue light after the sunset, and how like here's here's the here's something really fascinating. There is a wild study by Harvard research showing clearly that artificial blue light at night destroys melatonin. But the question is, how much light do you need? 15 seconds. I mean, what 15 seconds? Yes, it's water.

SPEAKER_00 20:26

That's how much it takes to destroy melatonin? It's water?

SPEAKER_02 20:30

Yes.

SPEAKER_00 20:31

15 seconds.

SPEAKER_02 20:32

This study showed that 15 seconds. Like the visual, the human visual system becomes absolutely and insanely sensitive after 12 hours of being awake. So the retinal sensitivity increases so much, and even one or two photons have the ability to really destroy our melatonin when it's in the blue and and and green with green light wavelengths. And that absolutely sabotages the programs that allow us to repair, heal, and rejuvenate.

SPEAKER_00 21:05

Oh my gosh. Okay, that that's crazy information. I did not realize that. So even just peeking at your phone to check your email just for a minute, it after a certain period of time at night is going to disrupt your circadian rhythm. And yeah, and I just want to jump in here and I just want to re-emphasize something Rudy said. So if you are, if you do not get adequate melatonin production, if you do not have that sleep that you, your body desperately requires, your skin is not able to repair. You're not able to have a sufficient amount of collagen. You're there's going to be more inflammation. It is absolutely vital for skin health, whether it's acne, whether eczema, psoriasis, even if it's aging, it is it's non negotiable to get your circadian rhythm, you know, optimized. It's you you can't you can't negotiate that if you want to have beautiful skin.

SPEAKER_02 22:04

Absolutely. And and not all eight hours of sleep are created equal. If you sleep at night and you have your melatonin onset delayed, it's going to tremendously negatively impact your your your your body's ability to activate those programs at the right time of the day when when they peak. What ends up happening if we are exposed to artificial blue light at night and we eat a big meal, for instance, melatonin is very low in our system while we are asleep. Our organs are essentially focused on digesting instead of healing. And the peak of melatonin ends up getting delayed until way later. And by the time the melatonin is starting to peak, it's time to wake up. The alarm rings. And this is when people wake up feeling really drowsy. Why is that? Because they don't have enough cortisol at that time. Their melatonin is just starting to peak, and they have all this residual melatonin, leaving them exhausted during the day. Although they slept eight hours, it's not the same eight hours as somebody who had blocked artificial light at night and who had not eaten two to three hours before bed because they had their melatonin rising and spiking at the like by after a few hours of essentially sleeping, and they had used those eight hours optimally for repair, healing, and rejuvenation. And then they wake up, melatonin is low, cortisol is spiking. This is the natural around this and and uh energy that you that you that you feel when you are not circadian disrupted, when your circadian rhythm is in place.

SPEAKER_00 23:52

Yeah, it's there's a very specific formula that you need to follow to optimize melatonin production so you get that sleep at night, correct? I want to get I want to get into that formula in just a moment because I know you know that. Um but yeah, so the cortisol and the melatonin, they pretty much, you know, they if melatonin is high, cortisol is going to be low, and vice versa, right? They're they're antagonistic almost, correct?

SPEAKER_02 24:18

Yes, they're polar opposites. When one is high, the second is low, and they each represent one aspect of the day. They're the yin and the yan aspect, light and darkness. Cortisol needs to be high when we first wake up. It goes, we have like a healthy rising pulse of cortisol that wakes us up. It's like the most effective cup of coffee that doesn't have negative implications of dehydration for the skin. And melatonin must spike when darkness or the absence of light starts showing up in our environment. So you can imagine this: this is cortisol spiking. Melatonin is low at night. When melatonin spikes, cortisol is low. But what ends up happening, I describe that in today's world, we're living upside down. If you if you measure the cortisol melatonin cycle of most people today, it happens upside down. They have their cortisol spiking at night, and that's why they're feeling wired and they think that they have a night owl problem. But they don't have a night owl problem. They have a light problem entering into their eyes at the wrong time of the day. And then you look at their morning, cortisol should be high, melatonin should be low, and we have the reverse effect where they have a lot of residual melatonin in their system. They wake up feeling extremely groggy and moody and needing a lot of coffee to get going.

SPEAKER_00 25:48

Yeah. And I will say when most of my patients come to me, there's absolute cortisol dysregulation. They're either having difficulty getting to sleep or else they're waking in the middle of the night. I see this middle of the night waking, I would say, in 80% of my patients. And that is a sure sign that you're living in the upside-down world. And we need to reverse that. And paying attention to your circadian rhythm and really your light hygiene, that's foundational to do that. I mean, I can give my patients all the supplements that I can think of to get them to go to sleep and stay asleep, but it's not going to be as effective as understanding how to utilize light. It's just, it's very exciting that we can make such a dramatic shift in our health just by using light. I love it so much.

SPEAKER_02 26:39

Absolutely. Yeah. I wish more doctors would understand that it's impossible to supplement our way out from a disrupted and dysregulated light environment. Because again, that light is the soil in which the root of our well-being is planted.

How Sunlight Powers Mitochondria

SPEAKER_00 26:56

Yeah. And I mean, I've been doing this for 20 years as a naturopathic doctor. And I would say, you know, the first 10, 12 years of my practice, I had no idea about how to use light at all. We did not talk about it. I didn't know of any research that told the story. So to me, this is just so amazing that we now have this knowledge. And not only that, but we have some amazing tools to help us. Yeah, it's really exciting. And can we just touch on mitochondria just really quickly? Because I know light has a huge influence on mitochondria. And mitochondria is our energy. This is like the battery of our entire body. So, Rudy, what how does talk about the mitochondria story for a moment?

SPEAKER_02 27:38

Yeah, absolutely. So, just for context, those are the tiny little engines within every cell that are responsible for producing the energy that we need for everything that we do. Like when we sit down and think and we want to be creative, we need energy. When we want to repair our skin, we need energy. So, about everything the body does, it uses energy in order to do it optimally. Now, it's conventionally known that these mitochondria generate energy by breaking down the food that we eat to produce ATP. But if you zoom in on a subatomic level, what you realize is that the food is broken down into electrons and protons that are being channeled in the electron transport chain of the mitochondria. Now, we Dr. Douglas Wallace back in 2017, I believe, he he won an award for a groundbreaking discovery. 90% of modern chronic diseases, including anxiety, depression, loss of productivity, originate from the mitochondria losing their efficiency. And what's one big reason they lose their efficiency? It's not what most people think. It's not about food and exercise. It's only, it turns out it's mostly about light and darkness.

SPEAKER_00 29:05

Okay, so I just want to reiterate that again.

SPEAKER_02 29:18

Yes, right? Yes. Oh, yes, and and uh the way this works, we we're all familiar with Albert Einstein, who contributed beautifully to physics. And what most people don't realize he ended up contributing a lot to biology because it turns out our biology is reflection, is a reflection of the physics around us. It's it's a reflection of nature. That which happens and nature happens inside of us, it's phenomenal. But the photoelectric effect from Albert Einstein, it shows how light excites electrons and generates electricity. This is how plants photosynthesize and how solar panels work. We tend to think of those things around us and say, oh wow, pretty cool. Like light is generating electricity. And here's what we forget it's happening inside of us every single moment.

SPEAKER_00 30:11

We totally forgot that we are electricity generating organisms and we need light in order to do that.

SPEAKER_02 30:19

Absolutely. Yes, and and and most people argue we are not plants, we don't have chlorophylls. And what most people don't realize is that melanin in us is our chlorophyll, and melanin is the compound that we produce in response to UV light when we start tanning. Literally, chlorophyll and melanin go through the same reaction, and it's absolutely fascinating because there's a Nobel Prize winner, his name is Albert St. Giordi. He discovered how sunlight excites electrons in the electron transport chain of the mitochondria. And so it's no longer about the food that we eat, it's about that sunlight striking the mitochondria and generating the electricity that the mitochondria needs in order to generate that spin and its motor. So it became like scientifically known that two-thirds of the energy that we generate comes from the sun, and only one-third comes from the food that we eat. And this explains why so many people overeat, they're so over-reliant on food because they're very photonic, sunlight deprived.

SPEAKER_00 31:27

Yeah. And so, what about this narrative that's been fed to us that we have to be afraid of the sun? We have to avoid the sun, we have to wear sunscreen. This is this is probably one of the most physiologically damaging narratives out there. I mean, there's a lot of them, but this is this is awful.

SPEAKER_02 31:47

It's an awful narrative, and it completely disregards that we are light beings and that our whole biology runs on sunlight. And the whole idea of protecting ourselves from the sun is absolutely ridiculous. Why would we protect ourselves from the main source that provides life for every biological species on earth? I mean, could have God made a mistake and put such powerful source of light in the sky that ends up causing us all kinds of issues? So, as an evidence, mitochondria actually make on-site melatonin in orders of magnitude higher in concentration than the melatonin that we make in our pineal gland at night. And this melatonin has nothing to do with sleep, literally nothing. Oh my god. It's one of the highest antioxidants that the body produces in response to sunlight. Mitochondria needs a cooling system, it needs antioxidants, otherwise, it becomes damaged because as it's breaking down the food, it starts heating up. We produce reactive oxygen species, which are inflammatory molecules that end up accumulating in the mitochondria and decreasing its ability to be effective. So, what's the cooling system during the day? Sunlight.

SPEAKER_00 33:22

Oh my gosh, I love that. I love that explanation. That makes so much sense.

SPEAKER_02 33:27

And what is the cooling system at night?

SPEAKER_00 33:30

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 33:31

The cooling system at night is darkness via pino melatonin. So we have two absolutely phenomenal systems that are related to light and darkness. One that is activated in indirect sunlight, and the second one is activated in direct darkness. And mitochondria needs darkness in order to regenerate. The absence of blue and green light at night is what gives the signal to release melatonin. And again, we spoke about melatonin being the main signal that activate the cellular cleaning through autophagy and apoptosis, which are controlled by mitochondria. But what does it activate as well? It activates mitophagy. And mitophagy is the program that allows mitochondria itself to get rid of the old parts and the worn-out part and to replace them with new parts. And it's crazy because in highly metabolic organs like the brain and the eyes, the mitochondria could replace up to from five up to 20% of old mitochondria with new mitochondria every single night. So talk about the skin. The skin is a highly metabolic circadian organ that is rich in mitochondria. And if our skin has broken mitochondria, we run into all sorts of aging issues and photopigmentation and um uh acne and and all sorts of things. And when when people start talking about pigmentation that happens out in the sun, it turns out it doesn't happen in the sun. It happens because of overexposure to blue light in our indoor environment. And when we go out in the sun, the mitochondria are broken down, they're not effective, they're not efficient, so we're not able to absorb sunlight properly.

Building Sun Resilience Without Burning

SPEAKER_00 35:27

Oh my gosh. That okay, what you just told me there is huge. That is so interesting. So for people like me that live in Toronto inside for the entire winter, which is torturous. How do we prepare ourselves to be exposed to sunlight? Like, do you have any like great tips? Because now is the time, right? The sun is hopefully going to come out in the next few days for us. Like, what do we do?

SPEAKER_02 35:55

Absolutely. So the seasons in nature are absolutely purposeful. We experience winter, which is the season in which nature dies and goes inward into that space of like darkness, which symbolizes going inwardly. And all of the previous cultures have used that time as a time of healing and rejuvenation. There's a reason why, because when the day shortens and the night lengthens, what else lengthens? Pinion produce melatonin.

SPEAKER_00 36:31

Right.

SPEAKER_02 36:31

If we are getting that proper darkness, if you're sleeping, yeah, if you're staying through to that cycle, yes, and during that time, the body experiences a tremendous amount of healing, of slowing down, of going inward. And what comes after? Spring. Yes, and the word says it all you spring back from that darkness into life, just like a seed springs back uh after after being planted in the in the in the darkness of the soil. And during that time, it's a very powerful and effective time to use as a means to stop building our solar callus and our resilience to sunlight so that we are prepared to absorb more sunlight in summer without burning. Obviously, during springtime, the increase of UV light and the increase of the intensity of light happens gradually. So it gradually increases. And if we are in tune with our environment and with mother nature and we are going outside, we are naturally getting exposed to that gradual increase in UV, right? Which is naturally prompting our skin and our body to start producing more melanin, which is the compound that allows us to tan and protect us from sun burning. And with that gradual exposure, we reach a peak in which we're able to absorb more sun without burning.

SPEAKER_00 37:56

Wow, beautiful. It's beautiful to be able to have that all happen naturally. But say if you're like me in the middle of February and you decide to go down to Mexico for a week, do you yeah, that's that's a different situation, right? Like, would you recommend like a sink sunscreen or something? Or how would you suggest handling that? I cause and I'm asking you because I know that question's gonna come up.

SPEAKER_02 38:25

Yes. So first thing first, if you are a Canadian living in February in Canada, you you fly to Mexico. Obviously, the sun in Mexico is a lot more intense. The best way to go about it is one on the day you arrive, you make sure that you maximize your full body exposure around the first 90 minutes of the sun rising. During that time, there's pretty much no UV light, and there is red and infrared. Now, why is that important? UV light sit on one side of the spectrum, red and infrared sit on the opposite side of the spectrum. And just like anything in nature, there's a yin-yan relationship where there's opposing forces that interchange together to create balance and equilibrium. This happens in nature with infrared light being a precursor that the skin absorbs in order to allow us to absorb more UV without burning. And anytime we are exposed to UV light, we are simultaneously exposed to infrared light. But there's so much power in exposing ourselves to that during the time of the day when infrared light is high and there's no UV because it's gonna prompt and precondition and allow the skin to be prepared for later exposure in the day without burning. That's number one. So you want to use the sunrise and the sunset. So the first 90 minutes, last 90 minutes of the of the day, don't worry about burning, you're not gonna burn during that time. The second thing, in order for you to adapt, one week is really not enough because it turns out that it takes about three weeks for the body to resynthesize new melanin. So if you're type one skin, type two skin, type three skin, you already have low levels of melanin, melanin, and it's gonna take some time for the body to resynthesize new melanin. After three or four weeks, if you were to stay in that environment, then you'd have a great advantage because you're able to build that melanin slowly and progressively across those those weeks, and you're gonna get to a point where you're able to handle hours of sunlight without burning. However, it's not the case because you only have one week. So, what you need to do in this week, you need to take advantage of two things. Number one, cooling the body when you go and expose yourself to sunlight. Why is that? Because Dr. Augustine Rolier, the founder of heliotherapy, who essentially used sunlight to cure all kinds of illnesses like tuberculosis, broken bones, etc., he emphasized cool body hot sun. And he took his patients up to the mountains in Switzerland, up at high elevation where UV is even higher. But what is there outside other than high UV? The environment is cool as well. So there's cool body hot sun. So if you are in Mexico, find a cold plunge and go into the cold plunge for three or four minutes before you use sun tan, and then go and suntan. Do your first session around noon because you want to build your melanin, and you're not gonna build your melanin during the sunrise and the sunset. That's that's a mistake most people make. They they they say, okay, I'm gonna condition myself to absorb more sun. And one year or two years pass, and they're only doing sunrise and sunset, they've never exposed themselves to solar noon. And this is when you essentially build your melanin, you make vitamin D, you increase nitric oxide production, which is absolutely important for skin health because it's gonna dilate the vessels and it's gonna send a lot of blood flow to the skin and it's gonna nourish and revitalize the skin. So during the day one, you go into the cold plunge for three to four minutes, and then you time your first session in high UV light. And depending on your skin type, I would suggest you start with five minutes only.

unknown 42:37

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 42:38

Exporting all of your all of your body, and then you you you you you you go out of the sun, you go into the shade, and you give yourself some time and you notice what has happened. Is there a rush? Has there been like a lot of like intense reddening? And if yes, stop on that night. Make sure that when you go back home and the sun sets, you're out at sunset, you're exposing your body to that infrared light, which is very healing, and it it uh essentially works on repairing any damage that might have happened from overexposure to UV. And then you go back home and you block artificial light after the sunset. And this is the part that most people miss. They start overexposing themselves to sunlight, they don't block artificial light at night, and what they don't realize is that they're destroying their melatonin, and without enough melatonin in the body, your body cannot undergo proper healing and rejuvenation. Then you wake up the second day, your skin hasn't healed properly, and you're not ready to absorb your to absorb more sunlight. On the other side, if you block artificial light, get really good eight hours of sleep, wake up the second day, get that early morning sunrise. Now, out of sudden, out of sudden the second day, your skin is probably ready for a 15 minute session.

SPEAKER_00 43:56

Oh my gosh. Okay, that's incredible. Information. I don't know why we don't all know that information, but I think that just changed my life. Thank you.

SPEAKER_01 44:07

Thank you for sharing that.

SPEAKER_02 44:08

I've had like type one skin friends come from Australia and they arrived to Mexico and they're absolutely like completely like no color. Like and they had they had thought that they would never ever be able to build their melanin. And a friend, her name is Alice, she arrived first on day one. And uh what I noticed first is that she was completely depleted of life. Like she she was dragging herself throughout the day as though she was wearing a backpack full of rock. And I I could tell that she was she was she she had some weight on that she was carrying that that was kind of like not necessary, and uh it was absolutely phenomenal to see her. Although she was a user of blue-like blocking glasses, she was doing it all wrong. She had these cheap tinted glasses from Amazon, uh, which were orange tinted. I tested them and they they were allowing a lot of blue, blue light, and green light spikes of it at night. But she was wearing them all day long, from morning till night, completely disrupting her circadian rhythm, thinking that she's protecting herself from sunlight, uh from uh from artificial light. And at the same time, she had a fear of sunlight. Every time she went out, she would put sunglasses, sun, sunscreen, and she was completely like just scratching the surface of what most people know about light and blue light and stuff like this. And within a few weeks, after I had explained to her all of this information, she started doing things right. She essentially introduced morning sunlight and sunset, no sunglasses on. She started blocking artificial light with high-quality glasses that essentially do what they're supposed to do after the sunset. And uh she started slowly introducing tanning sessions at 12 noon. And she started with two minutes, literally. By months, by by month six, her and I were surfing for seven hours straight in the sun, and she did not need any sunscreen. She had developed a beautiful tan. I was actually jealous from her because she looked like she was glowing. Like when when you when you get a type one skin develop their melanin, they develop their melanin in a very different way than somebody who's darker. It's it's really beautiful, it's very attractive.

SPEAKER_00 46:23

Wow. Oh my gosh, I love that story. I feel like I need I need that. I need to have that transformation. Like as white as a ghost right now.

SPEAKER_02 46:33

Honestly, long story short, she lost about 15 to 20 pounds without dieting, without trying hard. She was glowing by the time she left here compared to her dragging herself through the day as if she was wearing a backpack full of rock, and her skin was glowing. Like when she first arrived, I was like, who is that zombie? Like, I was like, whoa, like, and then like but by by month six, she was absolutely glowing. It's it's it's beautiful to see that transformation.

A Practical Daily Light Routine

SPEAKER_00 47:02

Oh my gosh. Okay, so Rudy, help us all. Like, what is the schedule, the ideal schedule that we can follow to just like integrate all these, integrate light into our lives optimally? Like, what do you suggest?

SPEAKER_02 47:17

Yeah, absolutely. So step number one is uh you wake up, no matter what time it is, even if your circuiting clock is disrupted and you're waking up later, the moment you wake up, go outside and get sunlight.

SPEAKER_00 47:32

Okay, and I have a question about this. So typically I wake up and I go right into my meditation. Do you suggest you do like sunlight before you do meditation?

SPEAKER_02 47:43

It's a tricky question because when you're waking up, if you wanna linger so long in deep theta states, you wanna decrease any form of stimulation, including light and sound. I usually like to do my meditation around 5 or 4:30 a.m. when it's still dark outside.

SPEAKER_03 48:04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 48:05

And this way I'm not firing my environment, I'm not trying to block my eyes or block my ears. Nobody had woken up yet. There's no, there's no noise, there's no light. I keep myself floating in a state between sleep and wakefulness, which is in deep theta and alpha state, and I enter my meditative state from that state. And by the time I finish my meditation, after an hour, it would be timed uh sunrise pretty much. So I I leave my meditation, I go outside, and the sun is pretty much rising. And that's when I stop moving and I increase my core body temperature in alignment with the rising sun. Because one of the things that essentially make you wake up and increase your energy is sunlight entering your eyes. But what sun does, it increases your core body temperature up and it creates that wakefulness response. What other things increase your core body temperature up? Movement. So if you combine movement with sunlight, it's absolutely golden because you're getting a very sharp rise in cortisol and in body temperature.

SPEAKER_00 49:10

So so how long do you have to be outside? Like first thing in the morning, you get up, you go outside. How long do you have to be outside? And what if you're like in minus 30 snowstorm? Like, does it still work?

SPEAKER_02 49:25

That's a good question. So first let's answer the question: how long do you need to be outside? If you're starting this, if you go for 30 seconds, I would applaud you and I want you to celebrate yourself. I'm not saying that 30 seconds is the ultimate time, but it's the ultimate time for somebody who doesn't do any time outside. If you're at zero and you go to 30 seconds, it's absolutely amazing. And what do we know about the science of behavior? What we know is any behavior is controlled by mostly two things having the motivation to do something and having the ability to do something. And the ability is the thing that we can control the most. If something is hard to do, we need a lot of motivation to do it. We end up not doing it. If something is easy to do, we need less motivation to do it, we can do it. So make it easy. Say to yourself, first, I'm only going to do for 30 seconds. It's easy. Anyone could go out for 30 seconds.

SPEAKER_01 50:22

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 50:23

And after you do that, celebrate. And you may you may feel like really silly, and you may have an internal dialogue of like, why would I celebrate? I only did 30 seconds. It's very easy. Well, your brain will wire that moment because your brain is wired to memorize and essentially imprint the moments where it makes you feel good. So after 30 seconds of getting sunlight, you are naturally going to feel good and make yourself feel more good by celebrating yourself. And naturally, that 30 seconds will become five minutes, 10 minutes, 15 minutes. And I say naturally why? Because when you go outside, sunlight into your eyes, that light essentially is used to convert amino acids in the eye into dopamine and serotonin. Now, most people living in the modern world, they are absolutely depleted on serotonin and dopamine. Yeah, what do we know about blue light? The one thing about blue light is that it completely deplete your dopamine tract in the brain. So there are studies from Dr. Samar Hittar. He published papers showing that very little amount of blue and green light entering the eyes after the sunset activate an area in the brain called the habunula, known as the disappointment center. So that's the voice that you hear when you first wake up. Ah, another day. I don't want to do this, I don't want to do that. And you start dragging yourself. That's the habinula being overly active. And that's dopamine being low. What do we know about dopamine? Dopamine is this miraculous molecule that allows you to zoom out and see the bigger picture in life. It makes you sit up and pay attention to what matters, and it gives you the motivation to do the difficult things to achieve your goals, those things that you've been postponing time after time. So, what happens in morning sunlight? If you're blocking artificial light at night, you're you're protecting your dopamine, you wake up, you get 30 seconds of morning sunlight, all of a sudden, slowly, slowly, you're starting to build that dopamine and serotonin, and you're starting to feel good. And that feel good will lead you to naturally wanting more because we are designed as human beings to feel good. And naturally, you're gonna find like, oh well, I'm gonna let go of that gym membership that I used to go bake myself under fluorescent lighting for an hour and a half, and I'm gonna find something in an alternative where I'm like exercising outside in morning sunlight because it feels so good. Out of sudden start getting ideas instead of driving your kids to school, you're like, okay, what would it be like if I park my car 10 minutes away from school and walk with the kids to school? So all of us are getting that morning sunlight and boosting our dopamine. So that like inner resourcefulness start showing up in your life as dopamine and serotonin are rising and as you are protecting yourself from the sources that are depleting your dopamine and serotonin at night.

SPEAKER_00 53:40

That's amazing. Oh, you're just cut out for a second there. Okay, you've completely inspired me. Usually I get up in the morning, I do my meditation, I do some yoga, and then I do my block walk where I walk around the block. But after talking with you, I'm gonna adjust my schedule a little bit. I think I'm gonna move my meditation earlier and get outside like as soon as possible. So that that's pretty, that's pretty helpful. And I mean, just the benefits. The benefits that you're describing of doing it makes it impossible not to do if you want to be healthy, if you want to be vibrant, if you want to live life to the fullest, you simply have no choice but to get up and get outside first thing in the morning, right?

SPEAKER_02 54:24

Absolutely. And and just to cover the aspect that you had mentioned, what happens is if it's freezing outside.

SPEAKER_00 54:29

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 54:30

During the winter in Canada and other like northern countries, sunlight becomes scarce. But what does nature give us? She gives us cold. And what's the connection between cold and sunlight? We know that sunlight increases dopamine, we know that sunlight increases fat burning, we know that sunlight wakes us up first thing in the morning by increasing our cortisol, making us feel alert, energized, and ready for the day. All of these cold can give us. Cold increases our dopamine by 200%. And guess what? Unlike blue light from the phone, which is engineered to rise your dopamine and then bring it way below baseline. When we are exposed to sunlight or cold, our dopamine rises way above baseline, and it takes about six to seven hours for it to drop, and it drops and it stays above baseline. That's what nature does. It always makes us feel good. Whereas man-made stuff like artificial blue light is engineered and designed to get you the instant spike of dopamine, like that instant feel good validation, and then what happens seconds after or minutes after it crashes way below baseline, keeping you wanting more, and then you continue to want to use your phone, you continue to want to get addicted to those notifications, etc. So cold is essentially nature's gift to us when sunlight is scarce. And if I was to be in Canada, what I used to do when I was in Nelson, I would wake up, and although it would be still dark outside, I would take a cold shower and then put my clothing on, and I will go for a run. The cold shower is essentially helping to burn helping me burn my fat into what? Into infrared light. And that infrared light, what does it do? It energizes the mitochondria and it creates exclusive zone water inside of the mitochondria, making the mitochondria more effective. So when I go for a run, I'm also generating heat. So essentially, during those times, I'm using cold and exercise to create my own sunlight and create my own awakening response and my own fat burning process and my own dopamine boost. And by the time I finish, you know, my body is a lot warmer. I could be outside longer when the sun rises, and I could I could I could go for a walk in a park and I'm not freezing because I'm cold adapted. You need to become cold adapted if you live in Canada. If you're staying indoors under artificial blue lights and in regulated temperatures, those blue lights are static all day long, emitting 6,500 Kelvins, which is the color temperature at 12 noon, and you're in 28 degrees, 30 degrees Celsius, telling your brain it's summertime 12 noon in Canada, and your body fails to physiologically adapt to essentially be able to become resilient to the cold and to the winter time. And we start struggling.

SPEAKER_00 57:41

Wow. Okay, you're blowing my mind. You're actually teaching me how to use winter to my benefit. This is this is unbelievable information. I mean, this time of year in Toronto, people are looking rough, man. Like they're not doing so hot. But this information is a potential game changer for everybody living in these cold climates. Like, we don't know this at all. I don't I didn't know any of that. So thank you for sharing and teaching.

SPEAKER_02 58:09

Yes, and and what's another really powerful tool that the indigenous people use during the winter time? They make a lot of fires. And when you are in big cities, you know, your insurance rises so much if you have a fireplace in your house. So everybody's try to avoid that. But sunlight is 49% red and infrared. And when sunlight is scarce, you get all that infrared light from the fire. And when you're out in nature, you're grounded to the earth. Although it's a little bit colder outside, there's the fire in front of you, there's this connection, you become cold adapted. Your your your whole metabolic process shifts from essentially optimizing for ATP production to optimizing for cold adaptation. So you start burning your own fat to produce uh to be to produce heat and energy, which is a completely different type of metabolism that we're so that we're supposed to activate during the winter. It's different than summertime metabolism, where food is like abundant, and you're foraging and eating all of the time, and there's high UV light that allows you to burn the food really fast. Wintertime is the complete opposite. There's like more fasting, more going inward, you're cold adapted, you're you're more in a ketogenic state. And you know, like people talk about diets and keto and stuff. Like keto is meant to happen in wintertime, it's not meant to happen in summertime. And when you stay in doses in summertime, you end up damaging yourself, not because keto is bad, but because you're going against your environment. UV is high, and you need those fruits that are grown under UV light to create that same signaling between the light information that is hitting the guts and the light information that is coming from the sun into your eyes.

Resetting Cortisol And Melatonin Fast

SPEAKER_00 59:52

My gosh, that's brilliant. Absolutely brilliant. I love this. This is like blowing my mind. Honestly, it really is. And this, yeah, we we all need to understand this information and live this because this is life-changing. This is how we reach our potential as human beings by understanding how to live within our environment, right? This is it's hard to reach our potential when we're we're held down by a really toxic environment. It's actually just not gonna happen.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:21

Um, yeah, indeed. Indeed. And uh it's it's it's very difficult to when you realize that as humans, and I knew this as a kid, and I had that moment in the field on the farm when I realized, wow, like everything I thought would be wrong with me, it wasn't about me. And in that moment, it became very clear that as humans, we are meant to feel vital, vibrant, and alive. And we are born with this greatness. Like the moment we are born, we are born with this in us. And nature is at the foundation of this greatness because nature is not a phenomenon outside of us, it's it's our nature, it's in us, and connection to nature is connection, connection to self. And when we lose that connection and we come, we become completely disrupted by disrupting our light environment, for instance, we fall away from this greatness and we become sick, we become disconnected, we become more depressed, and we start wondering what is wrong with us. And the answer is there's nothing wrong with you, but what have you done to disconnect you from you? Because that you is still inside and is still awaiting your recognition of your brilliant divinity, and you had moved away from it by engaging in unbalanced actions and creating an environment that is not unlike, that is not like the environment that God has created for us.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:55

That's right. That's right. And one thing that, you know, I remember from when you were telling your story when you went up to work on the farm, within just three days, you noticed a massive difference. Like it's not something that took six months, you know, heart inflammation to get results. Like this was three days, right?

SPEAKER_02 1:02:13

Absolutely. Because it takes about three days to resat your melatonin's cortisol cycle. And and when this cycle is disrupted, everything else is downstream disrupted from there. And it literally takes three days of consistently getting morning sunlight in your eyes, blocking artificial light exactly after the sunset at the same time every day. So you're getting that consistent signal, and then your your melatonin and cortisol cycle will essentially recover and it will no longer be flat because the modern life has had instead of having like that massive contrast between melatonin and cortisol, now we have like both both curves had flattened so much because we're in we're in low light environments from the day we wake up until we go to bed, and um it's it's completely disrupting that contrast of like 100,000 locks from sunlight when you wake up compared to zero locks at night when the sun sets. You have like this massive contrast.

Daytime Evening Night Lenses Explained

SPEAKER_00 1:03:16

Wow. Okay, well, I know we're running out of time, and I just want to talk a little bit about the Viva Rays sunglasses or not sunglasses, sorry, that's absolutely the wrong word. The wrong, wrong word. I'm actually wearing a pair right now that was sent to me by Rudy. And okay, so can you tell us a little bit about these glasses? And the pair that I was sent had three has three different lenses. And can you talk about that as well?

SPEAKER_02 1:03:45

Yeah, absolutely. So we spoke a lot about the importance of getting morning sunlight and about managing and balancing our artificial light exposure. So, what ended up happening in today's world, most of us are working in offices or we are living in homes where we are surrounded by all these LED lights in the ceiling, screens arriving to the level of the eye. So when we are exposed to this light during the day, this light is very rich in a narrow spike of blue that comes in isolation from other from the other frequencies of colors. And if you look back, never throughout evolution we've been exposed to blue light and isolation from green, yellow, orange, and red light. When we are out in the sun, there's a lot of blue light, but this blue light always comes packaged with the other frequencies, so they balance each other out. Yeah, what ends up happening when you are exposed during the day to all this blue light without the other colors, studies have shown that this narrow spikes increases reactive oxygen species in the mitochondria. So they inflame your mitochondria, and that explains why so many people experience eye strain, eye burning, headaches, and agitation during the day when they are in such light environments. So, what is the solution? People spoke about blue light blocking glasses, and while they seemed a good solution, it turned out they're not. Because when you go and use a technology that blocks blue light during the day, you're disconnecting your brain from the information it needs to tell it that it's daytime. And therefore, you start feeling tired at the wrong time of the day. So we created the light balancing glasses. These are harmonizers, not blockers. And what they end up doing is they take this inflammatory frequency, they flatten it, and they spread it across the spectrum. So you're getting more green, yellow, orange, and red light in proportion to the blue that you're getting. And now all of a sudden, the spectrum is more balanced and therefore eliminates headaches, agitation, while you could maintain your energy level up because your brain still knows it's daytime. And notice that. I'm not wearing these glasses right now as I speak. Why is that? Because I'm in my office, and my office is an outdoor environment. So I don't have any anything blocking the natural lights from coming into my eyes. I'm not using any artificial light sources. I have the screen in front of me, although the light from the screen is minimal compared to all the sunlight I'm getting from the front and from the back. So if you happen to be in an environment like this, you don't need to put anything on your eyes when you're when you're when you're in such environments. If you you are an environment that has a lot of LEDs, then that's when you put the daytime lenses during the day.

SPEAKER_00 1:06:37

Right. So for me, like right now, I'm in my office, I'm on the computer. It makes sense for me to have the harmonizers on, correct?

SPEAKER_02 1:06:45

Yes, because the dominant light is coming from artificial light sources.

SPEAKER_00 1:06:49

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:06:49

Now, after the sunset, when we supposedly receive that light information, the body knows the day is ending. You come back home and you're exposed to the alien sun. And what is the alien sun? It's your television, your computer screen, your phone, the LED light in the ceiling, down in the street.Anywhere you go after the sunset, there's all these sources of artificial light that are screaming to your brain. It's 12 noon. And what what this ends up happening, it disrupts the natural process of melatonin rising and it stops pumping cortisol. And you become wired, you want to do things. All of a sudden you start thinking, oh, my creativity peaks at night. But essentially, light is a drug, and you want to eliminate that wrong drug at the wrong time. And the the way to do this is the evening lenses. So those are designed to mimic the exact color temperature of the bonfire.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:49

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:50

So they eliminate the wrong signals, they tell your nervous system the day is ending, stop pumping melatonin and stop preparing for a restful night's sleep without making you oversleepy. Because if the sun is setting at four and you wear these glasses, imagine yourself to be around a bonfire with friends. You still have the energy to cook, socialize, talk. And this is what the evening lenses are for. And about half an hour to an hour, if you're somebody who struggled with insomnia, I would say an hour and a half.

SPEAKER_01 1:08:21

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 1:08:22

You put the nighttime lenses, and those mimic darkness. Like they tell the brain it's completely dark. It's like the end of the bonfire when the wood turns into amber coil. Okay. And they're known by our customers as the sleeping pill, because truly, like most people put them on and they start yawning within five minutes. And there's no magic there. It's just that the brain is receiving a signal that's dark. And when the brain knows it's dark, you exhale, the body relaxes, and you become mellow. And all you want is you want to go to bed. Your brainwave frequencies start going from beta active to more alpha meditative and finally theta and delta and you get restful night's sleep.

SPEAKER_00 1:09:07

That's amazing. Yeah, I I love I love wearing these lenses a lot. I wear the harmonizers a lot, and then I use the bonfire ones a lot. But I'm gonna try using the night ones more. But the one thing that I notice when I do use the lenses, my sleep is better, and I see it on my HRV. Like I have an aura ring, so I track my sleep, I track my HRV, and you can you can track it. You can see the difference when you use these glasses. It's it's pretty significant.

SPEAKER_02 1:09:37

Yes, absolutely. A lot of our clients who use Aura Ring, they report like 30 30% increase in the REM and NREM sleep when they first start using the glasses, particularly the red lenses, is really really powerful in uh optimizing melatonin production before bed. And uh a note on uh on uh the aura ring or any or any other like biomarker, that it's very, very important that you make sure that it's it's uh I think it has a it has a way where you can turn off the Bluetooth uh from it when you go to bed.

SPEAKER_00 1:10:15

Yes.

SPEAKER_02 1:10:16

Um so you want to make sure that when you are going to bed, that your bedroom is free from all electronics, that your phone is off, that the Wi-Fi is ideally off because all of all of this 2.4 gigahertz to 5 gigahertz is light essentially, and the pineal gland pick up on this. Besides the fact that we've seen many, many studies showing how this radiation essentially opens up the blood-brain barrier and cause all of the toxins to go right into your brain. They also have been shown to disrupt pineal melatonin and disrupt your circadian rhythm. There's also many studies showing how they disrupt your easy water. So that's the structured water in the cell, which plays a massive role in your skin health. If you are dehydrated on a cellular level, no amount of drinking water with minerals will end up hydrating you. There's two types of hydration extracellular hydration, that's when you drink good water with minerals, and intracellular hydration that happens in response to sunlight. It turns out that UV and infrared light is what create that easy water within the cell. And it turns out that non-native EMFs, including blue light entering your eyes and Wi-Fi's, end up destroying easy water and creating dehydration and decreasing the electric charge in the water.

Bedroom Tech Rules And Next Steps

SPEAKER_00 1:11:40

Oh my gosh, this is such a huge conversation. And, you know, I think I'm gonna have you back to have that conversation because, you know, we we need to learn more about that. I have two teenage boys, and believe me, this is something we talk about all the time is phones and Wi-Fi, and you know, trying to break them free from it. So yeah, this is a conversation I would love to dive into deeper with you for sure. But talk to me. But we we've just talked about so many amazing things that I'm unfull. I'm completely full and happy and excited about everything that you've shared with us because this information is life-changing. If you are listening to this, you know, regardless of whether you have skin issues or not, if you're a human being, you need to know this information and implement it. Because without it, achieving health, achieving potential is not going to be possible. I really believe that. And I know that's a strong statement, but it's true. We need to realign with our natural environment. There's just no debate anymore about it.

SPEAKER_02 1:12:49

Amen to this.

SPEAKER_00 1:12:51

Yeah, amen. Thank you so much for Rudy for being on. And these glasses are incredible. And Rudy's kind enough to offer a 15% discount. So please go to the show notes and there's a coupon code there. It's gonna be good for a week. So you really want to get on it. I have this style. Is this style called the dusk style? Is that it?

SPEAKER_02 1:13:14

I believe it's called the dusk style, yes.

SPEAKER_00 1:13:16

Yeah, I have the dusk style, and it is so cool. These look so cool on me. Like when I put them on in the evening, my kids think I am like really cool.

SPEAKER_01 1:13:30

The coolest mom.

SPEAKER_00 1:13:32

They think I'm the coolest mom. And even my husband is like, wow, you look really good in those glasses. And I'm like, thanks. So super cool style, too. It's not like you know, you know, blue-blocking glasses that kind of look a little ugly. These things are like the best, they're really stylish.

SPEAKER_02 1:13:50

I also want to highlight for people who wear prescription, oh, yeah, we make uh glasses in prescription. But here's what's absolutely important for you to know that your prescription glasses made in your optometrist's office block 100% of UVA, UVB, and blue-purple light, which is absolutely terrible for hormonal balance. And when our clients used to buy our glasses, they they would buy the daytime lenses in prescription, and they will end up at the end of the day wearing it outside and inside because they they need their prescription outside. And it broke my heart because I'm like, no, like you shouldn't have something like this that is blocking UV and blue purple light from entering your eyes. So we ended up making a new innovation. It's the only prescription in the market that allows 50 to 60 percent of UVA and UVB, as well as 100% of blue purple light. So when you are outside in the sun, ideally you remove your glasses to let sunlight enter your eyes. But if you happen to be outside and you are engaging in any activity that needs you to have your glasses on, then you're subconsciously still getting that UVA, UVB, and blue purple light without needing to think about it. And it comes in four and one. So you have your base frame and prescription, and then the three clips for daytime, evening, and nighttime to mitigate artificial light exposure at different times of the day.

SPEAKER_00 1:15:13

Wow. Okay, so that's brilliant. That's absolutely brilliant. Of course, of course, Rudy would come up with that after everything he shared with us today. We know that he's a genius. So that's amazing. So go to the show notes. You can have get the link to purchase the Viva Race. And there's also a coupon code there to get 15% off. And there's also some other information there on how to work with me and my team if you're suffering with acne or any skin conditions. We can help you. So check out those links. We are more than happy. And I can't wait, Rudy, to have you on again to talk more about all these amazing things that you've shared with us. So thank you. Thank you so much.

SPEAKER_02 1:15:54

Yeah, thank you for having me.

SPEAKER_00 1:15:56

All right. Thanks so much, guys. We'll talk to you soon. Bye. We're good.