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E20: Frozen Whispers and Hidden Realms Exploring Inuit Folklore

April 13, 2024 Alyssa and Lindsay Hough Season 1 Episode 20
E20: Frozen Whispers and Hidden Realms Exploring Inuit Folklore
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E20: Frozen Whispers and Hidden Realms Exploring Inuit Folklore
Apr 13, 2024 Season 1 Episode 20
Alyssa and Lindsay Hough

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Have you ever felt a chill creep down your spine when the wind howls just a bit too human? That's the Arctic tundra whispering secrets of the Inuit little people, a mysterious echo in the vastness where reality blurs. Alyssa and Lindsay lead you through the frostbitten paths of Inuit folklore, where diminutive beings with remarkable powers lurk in the shadows. We compare these haunting tales with other  mythologies and share stories that just might make you question what's truly out there. From the eerie number of missing persons in Alaska to the unnerving abilities of these creatures to disorient the unwary, this episode is a sled ride into the supernatural.

Imagine hunters in the wild confronted by time distortions and magical influences, or a child returning from an otherworldly abduction with stories of decades-lost souls. These are not just campfire stories; they are fragments of a culture's understanding of the world beyond our sight. We recount personal anecdotes and local practices born from the need to coexist with entities that defy explanation. Our exploration takes a turn towards the concept of parallel dimensions, adding a layer of intrigue (and maybe a bit of humor) to the chilling notion that other realms lie close to our own, just out of view.

To our hauntlings,  as we bid you a shiver-inducing adieu, remember that our tales are more than just stories—they're a reminder of the mysteries that dance on the edge of our reality, waiting for the brave, or perhaps the foolish, to pull back the veil.

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Have you ever felt a chill creep down your spine when the wind howls just a bit too human? That's the Arctic tundra whispering secrets of the Inuit little people, a mysterious echo in the vastness where reality blurs. Alyssa and Lindsay lead you through the frostbitten paths of Inuit folklore, where diminutive beings with remarkable powers lurk in the shadows. We compare these haunting tales with other  mythologies and share stories that just might make you question what's truly out there. From the eerie number of missing persons in Alaska to the unnerving abilities of these creatures to disorient the unwary, this episode is a sled ride into the supernatural.

Imagine hunters in the wild confronted by time distortions and magical influences, or a child returning from an otherworldly abduction with stories of decades-lost souls. These are not just campfire stories; they are fragments of a culture's understanding of the world beyond our sight. We recount personal anecdotes and local practices born from the need to coexist with entities that defy explanation. Our exploration takes a turn towards the concept of parallel dimensions, adding a layer of intrigue (and maybe a bit of humor) to the chilling notion that other realms lie close to our own, just out of view.

To our hauntlings,  as we bid you a shiver-inducing adieu, remember that our tales are more than just stories—they're a reminder of the mysteries that dance on the edge of our reality, waiting for the brave, or perhaps the foolish, to pull back the veil.

Like, subscribe and rate us!
Find us on Spotify, Amazon Music, Audible, Deezer, Podcast Addict and more at Macab at Midnight
Add us on Instagram for episode teasers and updates, at Macab_At_Midnight_Podcast
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Most importantly, stay scary and we'll see you in your nightmares...

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So thank you guys. You know, we are always really, really thankful. I think that that's it right.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I think that's all the big news that we had going on.

Speaker 3:

Let's get into it. Lindsay, tell me about Ear Chin Hawk. Should we apologize first, in case we cut the names?

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah, so I do. Yeah, I do definitely apologize for anything that's pronounced wrong. These entities are actually Alaskan slash Canadian, so they're further north, but they actually are from the Inuit. Those are the natives to the Alaska and Canadian terrains. So, like you think, inuit, also known as Eskimos, that's where these come from. So this is like their language and which I'm totally butchering, probably, I'm sure.

Speaker 3:

So so sorry. Like honestly truly.

Speaker 1:

Sorry, I'm trying. I just I saw. I saw these and I thought they were really interesting and decided to look into it a little more. So All right, so let's find out what happened to Brad. Yes, indeed, ear chin hock. We'll just call them little people.

Speaker 3:

I was just about to ask if there was an easier name.

Speaker 1:

Because I think that's roughly.

Speaker 3:

What that translates to is a little people Not to be confused with the Fae of Ireland. It's funny you mention that actually Did the Eskimos have Fae?

Speaker 1:

Yeah, actually are they. Um, because did the eskimos have faith? Yeah, these little people are considered something similar to like the fae of ireland, or like leprechauns or anything. They're magical beings, okay, okay, yeah, so I'm going to describe them to you first before we get into you know what they're capable of, okay? So, uh, these little people, they're thought to be about knee high. They're like miniature people, you know Right, like you said, leprechauns yeah, some depictions describe them to be like little men.

Speaker 1:

Like as in all, men no, just like little people, yeah, or sometimes they're covered in hair, other they are like they have darker skin and large, dark eyes, pointed ears. So that's you know, more fey-like, I think yeah, and in that description yeah but always they're thought to wear the traditional skins that the inuit oh, okay, so yeah, you think so they dress like the same as the natives, yeah like the traditional style the skins of caribou and seals and whatever else.

Speaker 1:

They're also thought to live in the traditional ways as opposed to being modernized. Okay, so they live off the land. Yeah, all of that sounds relatively normal, except for the fact that they might be about two feet tall. Here's where it gets a little weird. Okay, it's said that these creatures can actually they lick. No, they actually like, kind of they exist in an alternate dimension from ours. Okay, like a dimension that kind of, is parallel, overlapping ours. Yeah, it's parallel to ours, but they're able to, like, move in and out of dimensions relatively easily. Okay.

Speaker 3:

So ghosts Got it. That sounds very ghost-like.

Speaker 1:

They're also thought to dwell underground, either inside mountains or in caves.

Speaker 3:

There's something that really bothers me about things that live like underground. Why, I don't know. It's just creepy to me. It makes me think of like the morlocks and the time traveler. Did you ever read that book? Uh-uh, okay, so I'm gonna sidetrack you for a minute, okay, and in in the time traveler he goes. I can't believe you've never read this book. Like everybody had to read it in school. They made movies. He travels way forward in time and it's a utopia and everything's beautiful. And like all these little people that can't speak English, they're stupid, but they're like really happy because they're stupid. Okay, and this book actually like actually poses a philosophical question. Like I don't remember what the question was.

Speaker 1:

But, anyway, it was, philosophical though it was, it was a very like.

Speaker 3:

the book was very much like philosophical and they end up going underground or like I don't remember it's been so long, but he goes underground. And there are these other people that are living underground and they're like white skinned monkey, like nasty, sharp toothed, red eyed things, and they're called Morlocks and they come up and they'll like eat the. I think they were called like eloi or something, the happy people, oh, and they'll like take them underground, like kill them. That's all yeah, but you know, that's what I think of when I think of things that are underground.

Speaker 1:

well, I don't think these things are that different. Well, actually, that depends on who you talk to. Okay, when, when I picture these things, if you think of, so like you know, the different type of creatures in the Dark Crystal, yeah, if you think of the ones that live underground with, like, the pale skin and the big eyes, that are the big dark eyes, the gelflings that live underground. Yeah.

Speaker 3:

Okay. So for those who don't know, if you have never seen the Dark Crystal, there are these different. Or read the comics. There are different races of Gelflings which are basically, they're like fairy folk, they're very much like fae, and there is a race.

Speaker 1:

They're also kind of small, you know.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, they're very small people. They have pointed ears. They're generally thought of to be pretty gentle, though the ones that Lindsay's describing. They live underground but they have very large, dark eyes because they live underground right, it helps them see in the dark, or yeah, or whatever.

Speaker 1:

So that's kind of what I think of when, like, I've heard the description of these things on that end, but that doesn't take away from some of the more terrifying things that they're capable of. So I mean, it's not all bad though. Well, let's talk about this, okay. So, so let's talk about what they're they're actually capable of, okay. So I mentioned that these little people, they live off the land, right, which means that they have to hunt do you know the type of food and things that is negative to those tundra areas?

Speaker 3:

uh, meat wisewise? Yeah, I would say probably fish seal. Do they eat seal? Yeah, you said caribou. Yeah, wolves, maybe Wolves. I'm not sure about wolves. I know polar bears are up there.

Speaker 1:

They eat polar bears. I'm not sure if they eat polar bears, I think they utilize. I know any kind of animal that lives in the Arctic tundra is game, so wolves. So wolves, bears, caribou, whales, seals, those types of things. From my understanding, to take down a caribou it probably takes.

Speaker 3:

Can, I guess, go ahead? I'm going to say like like five to seven men.

Speaker 1:

Like regular people, big people, yeah, inuit people Like natives or just hunters, oh, yeah, yeah, or just regular hunters. It doesn't even have to be Inuit people. Yeah, like big, like normal-sized people yeah, yeah yeah, so I think it was around four to five people to take down, because caribou are pretty big.

Speaker 3:

I should have just stuck with five. I said ten to seven because I got unsure Like I just threw that on there as a last-minute decision.

Speaker 1:

Caribou are pretty big. I don't know if you know how like they're large winter deer. However, these little people can take down a single caribou.

Speaker 3:

Don't say like three of them. No, because I won't believe. Don't say one, it is one, no.

Speaker 1:

Yeah. All they have to do is point at it. Oh, no, yeah, uh-huh, no. And what's even more alarming is, well, it takes several hunters to lift a caribou once it's dead.

Speaker 3:

Let me guess these little guys just point at it and float it away.

Speaker 1:

One is enough to pick it up and carry it off, okay.

Speaker 3:

By itself. Have you visualized that? No, that's what all the stories say.

Speaker 1:

Have you visualized that? Yeah, I don't know how that is possible, but that's what all the legends point to.

Speaker 3:

So I'll tell you how it's possible. You know those things you buy with wheels for moving furniture.

Speaker 1:

Yes, that's how. Don't think they're doing that in the middle of the Arctic tundra? I do. If that's what they're doing, that's what I think. That's not the only thing they can do, though.

Speaker 3:

Not only can they just point and kill and have this unnatural amount of strength to carry off a giant caribou by themselves, but they have the ability to disorient people. Yeah, you know how they do that. Would it not be disorienting to see a two-foot man point at a caribou, kill it and then pick it up and drag it away? Would that not disorient you?

Speaker 1:

Well, I mean, this is like people walking through the forest and suddenly they can't remember which direction they came from that like a scene from uh the hobbit I mean, might as well be. I mean, if they're magical, they're thought to have magical abilities. Okay, now some of the legends say that they do this to people who are particularly disrespectful. That's fair to the.

Speaker 3:

Oh you know what? Now I'm on the little people's side. Disorient those fuckers.

Speaker 1:

Oh yes, Not only they disorient people, they will lead them deeper into the forest of tundra and basically leave them there to die.

Speaker 1:

They deserve it if they're disrespecting, if they're killing the land then, yeah, and we're talking this is the arctic tundra, so we're talking like after the freezing temperature sun goes down. Yeah, you're talking sub-zero temperatures and if you're not prepared for it, you could freeze to death out there. Yeah, really, I know, but they're they're not always said to be bad or mean I don't think that's bad or any of that was bad or mean so some are thought to bring maybe maybe sorry, maybe a little like unbelievable, but I wouldn't say it was bad or mean.

Speaker 1:

What do you mean unbelievable?

Speaker 3:

I don't think that people get lost in the. No, I don't think that two foot men carry caribou off by themselves.

Speaker 1:

Well, you know, alaska does have one of the highest rates for missing persons. I did not know that. That, yeah, and a lot of the natives believe that these people have something to do with it. Okay, these little people.

Speaker 3:

That makes sense. It's like the black-eyed children from now on again.

Speaker 1:

As wild as it seems, these entities, these little people, that it's something that even modern day Inuit or Eskimos uh still believe in. They very much take all of these legends seriously. Right, this is a serious threat to them.

Speaker 3:

I have found that a lot of native tribes do take their legends and things seriously and honestly I've said it before like Native spirits are some of the most terrifying spirits to me, nature spirits can be terrifying and I believe in a lot of that stuff and I don't blame them for taking it. If a Native American person takes it seriously honestly, I take it seriously too.

Speaker 1:

What if I told you there was an actual account of a child that went missing and then showed up a day or two later, and he claimed that he was taken by the little people. I would say that definitely sounds very Fae-like. Lost a lone child in the middle of the marsh and he said that there wasn't any evidence that the child had been wandering around out there. There were no footprints, the snow wasn't disturbed, he was just there. And when he found him he was very disoriented, confused. Upset. The hunter recognized him, so after he rescued him and took him back to his village, the kid actually ended up recounting that he had been snatched by the little people, where they took him back into the mountains, and there he actually met a woman who had been taken for over 40 years ago, holy cow.

Speaker 3:

So what did they do when they're living up there with the little people?

Speaker 1:

I don't know. It's said that sometimes they they snatch people and they'll release them for unknown reasons. Other times people just disappear. They don't come back, but we don't know like that woman that was 40 years gone.

Speaker 3:

We don't know what she was doing like we just know that they, that this boy claimed she was taken.

Speaker 1:

The child allegedly said that the woman said that she wanted to help him, like escape Okay, and it was the next day that the little people released him.

Speaker 3:

So Maybe she talked to them.

Speaker 1:

I don't know. I don't know why she had been kept there and they let him go.

Speaker 3:

I mean, maybe she was able to appeal to like well, he's a child, because they do this to people who disrespect the land. So it could have been like well, he's a child, he still has time to learn, type deal. I don't know. I am like I don't know.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I've also heard stories that when people are disrespectful to the land, they'll lead them deeper into the forest and then they will tie that person up to the trees and leave them to the wild, like they'll let the animals return them to nature. So that's rough, that's rough, that's rough.

Speaker 3:

It's scary, that is, it's only scary to you because you don't want to get eaten to death.

Speaker 1:

Well, if you think about it, if they can carry off a caribou, then they can definitely carry off a human.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, for sure.

Speaker 1:

Without a problem? Yeah, for sure, but I mean not all of them are bad, though. Like I said, some of them have been. There are stories where some of them have led people out of the wilderness. Like there was Like helped them. Yeah, there was a story that this guy was on a snowmobile during the blizzard and his snowmobile like broke down, broke down so he had to trek back on foot. Well, in the blizzard he got lost and turned around somehow, and just when he was certain that he would die out there freeze to death, a little person appeared and led him back to his village.

Speaker 3:

Well, again, they're not necessarily bad. Like it sounds like they're punishing people who disrespect the land, which nature spirits. Of course they're going to take land very seriously. The fae are considered a type of nature spirit and if these things are anything like fae, you know, so I wouldn't say that they're. Like it sounds like they do deeds that maybe humans deem as either good or bad. But are they really bad? If they're leading them out? Maybe they deem that person as someone who respected the wilderness while they were in it.

Speaker 1:

That's right. What's wild about that story is that the man's snowmobile was found 20 miles 20 miles from where his village was, oh my God. So there would have been no way he could have returned, like during a blizzard.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, safely, yeah, no way Right.

Speaker 1:

That's insane. Not in sub-zero temperatures.

Speaker 3:

No, no, no way.

Speaker 1:

So that's why they think like he had to have had help from a little person, because they can pretty much appear and disappear within our dimension at will, which is said like there's been accounts where people have shot and killed a caribou and then went to go claim and it was gone claim their game, and where it fell, there was gone, there was nothing but a few drops of blood left. Wow, that's wild. Like they stole the kill this.

Speaker 3:

That makes me think of the little people in willow did. Did I show you willow, yeah yeah, yeah, you remember the little people that stole the baby.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah, something like that I there are it is also thought that they're a little mischievous. They can come in, they'll steal your things more. The most alarming thing I think they do, besides disorient people who they deem are bad, is they snatch people at random.

Speaker 3:

Wait, wait, what Now? It's random.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah, sometimes people will just go missing.

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Speaker 1:

I think there was one story where a woman saw her kid or her kid was playing outside, and then she heard a noise and when she went to go check her kid was gone outside. And then she heard a noise and when she went to go check her kid was gone and never to be seen again. That sounds like some goblin king bullshit. Well, I mean if they're snatching people up and keeping them in the mountains?

Speaker 3:

I wonder what they're doing with them, though, like I'm really I want to know. I mean, I don't want to know, like personally, okay, I just want to, like I want someone to come back and tell us what they're doing.

Speaker 1:

I don't know, I don't even know if they speak like our language. Right, there was. There's another legend, and this one I find to be a little weird. Okay, but essentially the story goes that there were a couple of hunters out following a caribou herd Kay, and upon coming over, like an overlook, on a cliff, to where the caribou are grazing, they see three figures there.

Speaker 3:

They are little people. You didn't build up to that at all, you just went. They went over the hill and there were three little people there.

Speaker 1:

Yes, Well, at first the hill and there were three little people there. Yes, well, at first the little people don't seem to see them, so they just observe them. They watch as one of them raises their finger, oh no, and a caribou falls to the ground. After the caribou goes down, they watch as the three little people approach the fallen beast and are preparing their kill, you know, more or less Ready to transport it to wherever it is that they come from. It's at that moment that one of them looks up and locks eyes with the hunters. Oof, the hunters freeze. Okay, they don't know what to do. They've been spotted by these magical beings that can travel through dimensions, sometimes snatch humans away. They're outnumbered, by the way, there's only two of them and so they don't know what to do. They're not sure if they should run. They're not sure if they should try and yell out and scare the little people off.

Speaker 3:

Well, I would say no, I would say, pretend you didn't see them.

Speaker 1:

So they just sit there and after one looks, the other two look. Oh god, suddenly all three of them are watching.

Speaker 3:

No, no no, what do these little things look like? I'm gonna look, hold on. So all of these depictions are just like okay, okay, they have like weird little masks. So do they wear like you said, they dress in the fur? Yes, do they wear like native masks? Are they described as like wearing native masks as well? Not that I could find, because a lot of these depictions have like native looking masks.

Speaker 1:

They just dress the traditional way, so I don't know if that's something of a traditional nature. Okay, I didn't dive into that part of the history.

Speaker 3:

Well, I'm kind of taking you off track here. So what happened? To the guys yeah, so After the three observed the hunters, they stand there for a few minutes in silence and then so everyone's just staring everyone down. Yeah, pretty much.

Speaker 1:

And then the little people take their kill, turn away and vanish.

Speaker 3:

Oh, okay, they're probably just waiting to see what those idiots up on top of the hill were doing.

Speaker 1:

Well, here's the weird part After this encounter, the hunters pack up and head back to their village, only to find that everybody they knew had aged or somehow passed away while they were gone. Oh my god, what? When they asked what happened, someone told them you've been gone for almost 40 years.

Speaker 3:

Holy, I wonder if, like, there was something open in between dimensions, because those little people were there and they didn't like walk through a freaking wormhole or something.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, that's kind of what I think, because, like, how else would you like have been gone for that long and not realize it? That is so wild, ooh, and that's one of the stories that stick with these people. It's another one of those things that they take seriously. If you encounter one of these things like you, just leave them be.

Speaker 3:

Let them do what they're doing.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, don't try anything.

Speaker 3:

Don't run them off, don't talk to them, don't try and take a picture, just In fact, some people don't even go out at night and have curfews. Just to avoid them.

Speaker 1:

Because they're thought to have come out at night mostly at night, okay, and they don't want to disturb them or, you know, become the next victim if they're, if they are out doing something mischievous, right? There's also another story that came up. This was from a personal encounter. I cannot remember the person's name, but I'll we'll link the video where they talk about this, okay so, oh wait, I mean, yeah, we will sorry.

Speaker 3:

I'm, I'm like I'm just zoned into the story, so I'm just everything so this, this person?

Speaker 1:

uh, when they were young, they were told if you drop food on the floor, don't retrieve it. It's the little people's now. And if you do have to retrieve it, you're supposed to say amen. First, you know like close your eyes and say amen, and then you can retrieve the food. Okay, so what happens if you don't? Well, one time this person didn't know that and they bent down under the table to retrieve a piece of food they dropped, and then a tiny human came out and bit their fucking hand.

Speaker 1:

No, what they felt wasn't what they dropped. It was a cold, scaly hand.

Speaker 3:

Ska not what? Hold on, hold on. I'm gonna stop you right there, okay, because now they have scales. They live in Alaska. What are they Reptiles? How can they be reptiles and live in Alaska?

Speaker 1:

I don't know, that's how I was described in the video.

Speaker 3:

Wrong, wrong. Everybody's wrong. The world is wrong, the universe is wrong. That was either a lizard. Do lizards live in alaska? Probably not. They're cold-blooded okay. So anything that has scales all right is either dead extinct dinosaurs okay.

Speaker 1:

Well, I'm thinking, if they said scaly, I'm not thinking like scales, I'm thinking like dry skin. Okay then, like the skin's all chapped and dry, okay, say what you mean, lady.

Speaker 3:

That makes sense, because the cold will make your skin chapped and dry. Okay, that makes more sense than scales.

Speaker 1:

I'm thinking like a fish or a lizard but they also didn't say that they saw anything attached to the hand. It was just the hand reaching through the nothing of the space. So just like reaching out, yeah, like reaching for this food that they dropped oh, I hate that. I think it's also a rule that if you're going to sit down to dinner, you have to make sure you're wearing a shirt well, that's just common courtesy.

Speaker 1:

It's just another one of those things I guess, I guess it. They don't like it. If you're not, you know know, properly dressed, do you?

Speaker 3:

blame them. I say, as I sit here with no pants on, I'm kidding.

Speaker 1:

Yeah. So I guess the takeaway from this is if you ever visit the tundra up in Alaska or Canada, stay inside and lock your doors. Make sure you follow the rules of the land, especially if you go visit these native areas, because this is a serious thing and you don't want to mess around with these things. You don't want to end up on the next missing persons account.

Speaker 3:

Or grabbing a freaking hand out of nothing. Yeah, grabbing the clawed foot of a pterodactyl and grabbing the clawed foot of a pterodactyl.

Speaker 1:

Because, like I said, people actually they end up going missing all the time in Alaska and the natives seem to think it's because of the little people. They just lead them into the wilderness and then they're never seen again. So, alyssa, what do you think, what are your thoughts?

Speaker 3:

I don't really know, I don't know.

Speaker 1:

I want to hear what you think of these. Do you think they're? They do sound a lot like the.

Speaker 3:

Fae. You think they're a type of Fae? Oh yeah, I do. They sound a lot like some sort of Fae.

Speaker 1:

That's kind of a thought that I had, because I know Fae can be mischievous.

Speaker 3:

They can be mischievous. They can help you if they want to help you.

Speaker 1:

They can hurt you if they want to hurt you, yeah like, if you mess with them, then, oh man, you can kiss yourself goodbye, Because that's it. That's the end.

Speaker 3:

So they're nature spirits. They're thought to. Like you said, they can be very mischievous. There are a lot of rules surrounding them. Yep, you know, I mean there are a lot of rules surrounding Wendigos and stuff, but that's like a list of 10 rules with the fey. It's almost like this, really weirdly complex. Like do everything to a t, yeah, like, and there's like a list of do's and don'ts and it needs to be done right and I feel like this is that, like, wear a shirt during dinner. That sounds very fey, like. You know, like the windigo doesn't care if you're wearing a shirt during dinner. You are the dinner.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, you are dinner.

Speaker 3:

So yeah, I think they're probably fey. I think that makes a lot of sense. Just like there's people all over the world, why can't there be fey all over the world?

Speaker 1:

I think there was a story that said that long ago the little people used to live alongside the Inuit people. Then there was an accident that happened. It ended in one of the little people's homes being crushed Aww. And they sort of just like never forgave. They held on to it and they retreated into the mountains and caves when they made their new homes.

Speaker 3:

That makes me sad for them. Honestly, I don't blame them. I too wouldn wouldn't like we don't trust tornadoes. They crush our homes all the time. I've never even had a tornado crush my home, but I don't want them here I've not.

Speaker 1:

I'm not experienced one crush my home, but I've been in tornadoes and they're not fun and humans can definitely be compared to tornadoes.

Speaker 3:

That's fair. Also, with the portal thing, like the traveling through time thing or whatever dimensions, fairy rings were thought to be portals between realms, so again, like there's that link traveling between you know this realm and the next realm, or whatever.

Speaker 1:

It kind of makes me wonder if, like when that little boy was snatched up in 2008, like, did he really talk to a woman who'd been gone for 40 years, or is that how she perceived time? What if she'd been gone for a lot longer, like who knows? Oh yeah, that's true that's true.

Speaker 3:

I thought you were gonna go the other way with it and I was gonna like get you for you know, mixing your time up, but I see what you're saying. No, I mean she's actually gone for like 10,000 years.

Speaker 1:

Right. If these hunters were gone for a few hours and then they come back and they've been gone for 40 years, who's to say that she actually hasn't been missing for hundreds? Yeah, that's pretty freaking terrifying. It is especially if they're living in a parallel dimension, that is like a mirror of our dimension. I guess I don't know how that would work. I don't either. I have no idea.

Speaker 3:

And the thing is like the people didn't even interact with them, they just went about their business. So that makes me wonder did those little people make time go faster, or do they just live in a like did those humans accidentally cross into?

Speaker 1:

their realm and like they didn't actually do it to the humans because they just live in a like did those humans accidentally cross into like that's what I'm thinking their realm and like they didn't actually do it to the humans, because they just left the humans alone.

Speaker 3:

That's right so it didn't seem like they wanted to harm them, but maybe like if you just you stumble into their area, it's like crossing time zones. The people that live in that time zone have no control over the fact that time just jumped forward you know they had no idea they didn't age at all from the time they'd been gone.

Speaker 1:

It was like they'd only been gone for a few hours, right.

Speaker 3:

All right. Well, this is your story, so what would you rate it?

Speaker 1:

I'm going to rate these things as a hell. No, because I watched some videos. There's been sightings of them creeping around in the dark or like in around trash bins or Trash bins. Yeah, okay, people have seen them like ducking around bins and like edges, walled edges and things Little tiny people is what they look like and I'm just like okay, first of all that's weird, but then they can like make you disappear. Like okay, first of all that's weird, but but then they can like make you disappear.

Speaker 3:

Nah, uh-uh, hell, nah I feel like if I stumbled upon one of these things, my first thought wouldn't be it's like a little person to be like. Is that a malnourished child? Where is your mother? That's that would get me killed. I would think that that was a malnourished child and I would die that's.

Speaker 1:

It's funny that say that because, like Alex, I'll show you the videos. They look like malnourished children, miniature people. I don't know how else to describe it. It looks like a miniature person.

Speaker 3:

That, or I think it was a walking doll. That's worse. I don't like that. I am gonna rate this as nope. Don't like that Because I don't like it, but also I don't live in Alaska or Canada, so I don't really think this is something that I genuinely have to be concerned about.

Speaker 1:

Wouldn't you ever visit.

Speaker 3:

Alaska or Canada, yeah, but if I visit Alaska, I'm going to be on a cruise ship.

Speaker 1:

Okay, so you're not going to be out wandering around the forest or the mountains? Huh, Not now. I'm not.

Speaker 3:

I would have been out in the mountains like two hours ago, but not now, if you do, just be respectful. Well, you know how I am about nature anyway. So, yeah, maybe I wouldn't have a problem.

Speaker 2:

Unless.

Speaker 3:

I stumbled across one of those f***ers who was just feeling a little mischievous.

Speaker 1:

I feel like if you did wander out that area, you'd almost have to have a guide or someone with you who knew the land, who could be like yeah, we don't go over there, that's the little people. That's where the little people live and that's funny because there's actually areas where people have found tiny little footprints. Oh, really, yeah, like little footprints, little human footprints, yep, ooh, that's. They're unexplained tiny little footprints. I mean, they're explained by these legends and what they believe, but they're not explained as far as like the fabric of what people of modern times consider to be reality.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, like anyone outside of that is just like what is this Right? Who's wearing like doll shoes and walking around out here?

Speaker 3:

Who's wearing doll shoes? How would you wear doll shoes?

Speaker 1:

You just put, like Barbie, high heels on your pinky toes, put them on your fingers and just do, do, do, do, like the sand you know, but they would see your footprints. No, you erase those how, I don't know, but that's what you do, oh my god. Okay, or maybe you just do a handstand, but instead of like putting your hands on the ground, it's your fingers, and they're all wearing tiny shoes.

Speaker 3:

So now the little people. I feel like the legends would say the little people have like 10 feet, then no, they're running in packs.

Speaker 1:

I think they do travel, usually in groups of.

Speaker 3:

Like hunter groups, hunter-gatherer groups, yeah, like three or more or so. Okay. Well, I have always wanted to go to Alaska, and after today you have given me reason not to.

Speaker 1:

Nah, I'll still go. I'll just watch my P's and Q's while I'm there.

Speaker 3:

This coming from the freaking girl who was like crawling shadow people. Let's visit Waverly.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, exactly. Oh, okay, you know, just be good to the land Then you won't go missing.

Speaker 3:

I feel like if they can do all the shit that they can do and you're garbage to the land, like they would know if you showed up and you just decided to be nice to the land while you're there, I mean, you're not garbage to the land and I'm not garbage to the land but Well, I mean, it's not like you're going to go out there and dump your trash Right, but In the freaking Arctic tundra.

Speaker 3:

Well, lindsay, thank you so much for ruining my hopes and dreams of wanting to venture out into the Alaskan wilderness to see the Aurora Borealis. Nah, I'll drag you there anyways. No longer do I need to see the glorious glisten of purple and green skies. I'd rather hide in my room and stare at the ceiling. Thank you, you'll still go.

Speaker 1:

You'll see, don't forget all about them.

Speaker 3:

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Speaker 1:

Mind the land and treat it right, and you won't go missing.

Speaker 3:

Watch for little people Bye.

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