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Lumber Virgins and Spanglish: When Texas Meets Kentucky
When cowboys from Canadian, Texas meet Kentucky horse traders, cultural collision and non-stop laughter ensue in this uniquely entertaining episode of the Harness Up Podcast. Host Steven Haste welcomes Tanner Johnson, Flint, and their companions, who've traveled east to purchase draft horse teams, marking their first journey into Kentucky's unfamiliar, tree-covered landscape.
The conversation quickly reveals fascinating cultural differences between these two rural American regions. The Texans express genuine amazement at Kentucky's abundance of trees, describing the experience as "claustrophobic" compared to their wide-open spaces. This sparks a running joke about regional terminology - from what Kentuckians call "hollers" (which Texans know as "canyons" or "draws") to the Kentucky term "yuns" instead of the Texan "y'all."
Beyond the humor, we gain authentic insights into modern cowboy life as Flint shares his experiences working on Montana ranches, helping brand calves, and starting colts. The men discuss environmental challenges affecting both regions, from changing climate patterns to wild hog management strategies in Texas, where helicopter hunting with infrared technology contrasts with traditional trapping methods.
Throughout the episode, genuine camaraderie bridges geographic divides as these horsemen share stories about rodeo experiences, horse training adventures, and rural wisdom. Tanner even offers his unique brand of relationship advice: "To get what you want as a female, you either need to have money or appear to."
This episode captures a special moment where cultural differences become the foundation for friendship rather than division, revealing how America's rural traditions continue evolving while maintaining their distinctive regional flavors.
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Howdy folks. Stephen Haste here with Harness Up Podcast with Haste Draft Horses and Mules. Another good night here in the office and I've got some good guests with me here tonight. We've actually this is something a little different this all just kind of come on today and we're going to record a podcast for you folks tonight. Hope everybody's been doing good. Don't forget our YouTube channel. You can like and share that YouTube channel. Click that subscribe button. You find it under Haste Draft Horses and Mules. Also, if y'all got social media out there, which I know a lot of y'all, do check us out on Facebook, instagram, tiktok, all across all platforms. We would sure appreciate it. And also don't forget our big October barbecue coming up October 23rd, 24th and 25th right here at the draft horse and mule place in liberty, kentucky. If you want more information on that or any teams we got for sale or anything going on with us, go to wwwdrafthorsesandmulesforsalecom.
Speaker 1:All right, we're going to go ahead and roll with this podcast here. I got a whole room full of people. We're in the little office here, it's about a 10 by 12. And I got four fellas here from Canadian Texas. They're not from Canada, but they're from Canadian Texas and these boys come up and bought a couple teams of horses from me today and I said I think y'all got some interesting stories, so we're going to sit down and do a podcast.
Speaker 1:So the main one here beside me though I think he's going to do a lot of the talking maybe Mr Tanner, maybe mr tanner, johnson, how are you doing tanner? Good, they're all nervous boys. They're scared to death. We got tanner here with us and then we got mr flint here beside of tanner. How's flint doing tonight? Good, he's doing good too. And the other two over there I think they are. They said they didn't want to be on the microphone, so, um, they didn't want to be on the microphone, so, um, they don't want to be on the mic. But, um, no, guys, we're just here having a good time. Tonight we smoked. I smoked some pork chops. I don't know if everybody got any or not, but uh, some there, y'all didn't get nothing. We'll be victor, go out there and start cooking that chicken. Victor's here with us too, and another boy's here with us, and and we're just sitting around talking.
Speaker 2:So, tanner tell them a little bit about Canadian Texas, where you're from. I'm not actually from Canadian. Where are you from?
Speaker 1:Lock me. Where's that in reference to Canadian Texas, south, way south, very good way south. Guys, there's going to be a lot of laughing on this podcast. We might as well just let it out now and get it over with here. You're telling them about canadian. Yeah, tell us about canadian.
Speaker 2:Texas flint oh, this is a little town was you born and raised there yes, sir and this is your daddy over here.
Speaker 1:Yeah, travis, he don't want to talk, though. He said he didn't want to be on the podcast. He will, he will eventually, though I think he'll get him on there. Oh, I bet he will. I bet we can get him on there. Yeah, flint, just got back from a pretty long excursion up in Montana. How was that for you?
Speaker 2:Oh, it was good. It was a lot better than Texas.
Speaker 1:Really.
Speaker 2:Weather was a lot nicer.
Speaker 1:Tell the folks what you was up there doing. I was up there helping the lady branch the calves. That would be fun just going out and doing that for a living. You said you took 14 horses up there.
Speaker 2:Yes, sir, Between me and another guy we had seven apiece.
Speaker 1:All quarter horses.
Speaker 2:Yes, sir, and when we got up there, there's a guy up there that brought us some, some colts to start for him do you do that in texas still?
Speaker 1:yes sir, you do colts for other people yes sir. Well, shoot somebody out there. Might need a colt started down there. Can't never tell, he's the best in the business is he really?
Speaker 2:I'm telling you he's lying.
Speaker 1:Well, he's trying to be anyway.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he's a good one.
Speaker 1:That's good. You start any colts, tanner, not anymore. You quit. Yeah, what'd you do your whole life?
Speaker 2:Ride colts, cattle yeah.
Speaker 1:Cattle rancher yeah, ain't shot up today. He ain't that old, thank you. He ain't that old, thank you.
Speaker 2:Thank you. 48 starts out. Let's give him a little age on him.
Speaker 1:Are you 48?
Speaker 2:I'm 48.
Speaker 1:Shoot, you don't look that old.
Speaker 2:Thank you.
Speaker 1:I thought Joe, or I thought Travis, was older than you. I'm 45.
Speaker 2:Well, that's what I told him that boy a while ago. He was trying to guess how old he was.
Speaker 1:His head looked like it wore out five bodies folks. We've been sitting here talking about three hours before we come in here so we got a pretty good rapport building with each other. So you may hear some laughing, but we've had a good day today. We've drove teams. I think they come in here last night about 10, something like that, nine or something it was late yeah, it's late.
Speaker 1:We took them to a cabin down there to stay in and, um, then they got up. This morning, me and victor got up six o'clock and went down there and went and eat breakfast with them at the village. Was your, your Kentucky breakfast any good? Yes, sir, it was real good. He's talking. He needs a mic too. See, he's just agreeing. We had biscuits and gravy and eggs and it was real good. Then we come back here to the bar and drove teams this afternoon.
Speaker 1:This rain is making me want to pee. Is it really You're going to go to the bathroom? He's a comedian, ain't he? Yeah, they don't get no rain in Canadian Texas. Flint got him a team today, though, I think. Yes, sir, perching team. Yes sir, he bought those bread mares we had on YouTube. And then there's another fellow sitting over here by the name of Mr Joe. I'd like for him to talk a little bit, maybe, if he don't care. I can't see him over there, but he bought him a nice team of gildings today, and they're microphone shy folks. They don't want to talk, but I got Tanner. What a way for Tanner to get back, I guess. Excellent team of gildings, and there was a way for tanner to get back. I guess excellent team red roans. Y'all probably seen them on youtube out there as folks that watch the youtube channel.
Speaker 2:But, uh, what do you plan on doing with your team flint? Oh, we might feed some cows with and then race and cold side of them y'all, how many head of cattle y'all got? We don't have very many, but one thing blew my mind.
Speaker 1:We was talking earlier today. They feed cubes. They don't even feed hay. That blew my mind, because around here, you know we got we've been kind of talking all day on and off. These boys can't understand how there's so many trees here kind of blew their mind, because around here, you know, we've been kind of talking all day on and off. These boys can't understand how there's so many trees here. It kind of blew their mind a little bit. I think You'd never been here had you.
Speaker 2:No sir.
Speaker 1:You'd never been out of, you'd never been this far east anyway. No, this is y'all's first time.
Speaker 2:Yes, yes, we're old lumber virgins.
Speaker 1:Y'all probably are first time. Yes, yes, we're old lumber virgins. That'd be what it'd be called lumber version. I guess that's the way to put it right there. Oh lord, I think we've laughed enough tonight for the year. Oh yeah, softwood pine. There's a few pine trees there, but jim's got mesquite right, what'd you say again? Pine trees.
Speaker 2:There's pine trees there you said that word again what word was it?
Speaker 1:yeah, oh, yuns. Well, that's just the word around here. I mean yuns. We say y'all too, yuns and y'all. Yeah, my mommy and grandma I've heard yuns my whole life, like we'd be leaving out. Mommy'd say yuns, be careful. Yeah, you don't say that in texas, it's y'all be careful. Around here we say yuns, a little different. It may be a Yankee term, I don't know, I just heard it my whole life. It's just different. My family used to come down from Indiana. I'll remember it till this day. They would sit in the house and make fun of us how we talk. Yeah, because we'd say arn and they'd say iron and we'd say oil and they'd say oil and they'd say oil. They'd make fun of us all the time.
Speaker 2:Yeah, the difference in north and south is enunciation.
Speaker 1:That's right. Yeah, it is truth now. Then you have Tanner Johnson, that has his own language. Tanner Johnson has his own language.
Speaker 2:yeah, Do you heard Spanglish, spanglish.
Speaker 1:I guess that's what it's called out of Canadian Texas Spanglish. I guess that's what it's called out of Canadian Texas Spanglish yeah.
Speaker 2:This buddy of mine when, I went to work in the shop for Travis one time. He said that's a pretty good hand, we can get by the communication barrier. Oh Lord, that was the truth. That probably was the truth. It was the truth.
Speaker 1:That was the truth. That probably was the truth. It was the truth. That was the truth.
Speaker 2:There was a Mexican man. Told him that too, Really yeah.
Speaker 1:Spanglish we're.
Speaker 2:Spanglish? I don't even think it's that.
Speaker 1:Are you okay, Elijah? No, You're about to die over here. Elijah's here with us too. Y'all have seen him on some of the videos, maybe. Yeah, Elijah did the work today.
Speaker 2:I thought you were trying to hand it to him. No, Elijah.
Speaker 1:He don't want to talk, he ain't going to talk, he's shy. He's microphone shy too.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I got to hand it to you.
Speaker 1:I don't guess I'm microphone shy really. I've been on the microphone quite a bit talking to people every day, all the time. We ain't going to be able to look at each other without laughing now. Yeah, oh Lord, you just got 15 hours tomorrow to go. Though what did you say? Again 15, he's got 15 hours tomorrow to go, though.
Speaker 2:What'd you say again? 15?
Speaker 1:you got 15 hours to drive before that. They're gonna be able to look at each other without laughing. You're talking about loins again. That's right. I'll never forget this guy, these customers. This has been a pretty good experience. I always remember Tanner Johnson. It's been an awesome time being here. Lodge will remember him too. Probably this is what happens when Henry goes on vacation. We get together and hang out, have a good time. Y'all need to come back to our barbecue in October. That's what you need to do.
Speaker 2:The.
Speaker 1:Indians need to fly Kentucky barbecue. You can fly up here. Yeah, you can cook some too while you're here. We'll let you cook some at Texas Style If you can. I don't know if you can cook or not.
Speaker 2:Well, I can, but I don't know if you'd want to eat it or not, we'd try it anyway.
Speaker 1:Joe'd be your man Is Joe a cook.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he is a cook. Dutch oven specialist.
Speaker 1:Dutch oven hey, they cook on them around here. Some of the boys get them Dutch ovens and put taters and carrots in them and set them on the coals and put the lid on. And put the coals on top of the lid, yeah. And cooking them things yeah, make like a roast or a stew or something yeah, so that is good.
Speaker 2:now that's a that's a lost art it is it really is.
Speaker 1:I've got a cousin, chris swit. He lives over the road here in eubank and he he got into doing a bunch of that stuff. Well, I guess he ain't a cousin. I guess he's still a cousin. He was married to my cousin but they divorced, so he probably ain't a cousin, but he was a cousin. He started cooking on them Dutch ovens and done a lot with it. He put them on Facebook.
Speaker 2:The term in this country can be a little slippery, can't it?
Speaker 1:What cousins?
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:No, we're not like that around. Yeah, no, we're not like that around, but I have seen some places that are I'm not going to mention names or nothing but I've seen some pretty wild stuff in my time.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we'll edit it go ahead.
Speaker 1:No, I ain't gonna edit it.
Speaker 2:We don't edit podcasts about a guy on the wagon ride. That made me nervous about this country over here.
Speaker 1:Oh, yeah, we ain't gonna talk about him either. Forget that guy. Some of the people, not some of the people yeah, some of the people may know who we're talking about, but he ain't welcome here and he don't belong here. So, yeah, he's not allowed here. But uh, let's take a breather for a minute oh, oh, lord, guys, it's been a good day.
Speaker 1:We've had a good time. We have had a good time. We've had a good day. It's finally raining, though we needed a little rain, thunder and out there and everything. So it's what happens when you come here and buy horses I mean everybody that comes here, it I don't know what it is, it's just good. We just we make the best friends and when I travel the country all the time, I don't stay at motels, I go to my customer's house, yeah, and I've always got a place and that's it's good. Now I know I got friends from ever in Canadian Texas. I can call us Spanglish here. Tell him to come save me.
Speaker 1:One time I had a. I sold a mule to a boy. I sold a mule to a guy in. I sold a mule to a guy in Arizona and he hired the trucking company. I'm going to try to make a short story long or a long story short. Anyway, he hired a trucking company and they come in there to the house and they had a bunch of sheep on the trailer and he put that mule in the back with them sheep and he called me about 10 hours later and said this mule is kicking these sheep and I said well, duh, what do you expect?
Speaker 2:He put a mule in the middle of a bunch of sheep. I thought they were supposed to be protection animals.
Speaker 1:Well, no, they didn't protect them sheep. And anyway he dropped that mule off at the box. Elder county, idaho fairgrounds trucker did and called me and said your mules out there, I ain't hauling it. Left it sitting where am I? At kentucky. The mule went to phoenix. What was I supposed to do? So I was preparing, so you lost your ass. No, the customer done paid for the mule. Uh, yeah, we lost him. Yeah, we lost him, but I was going to get him.
Speaker 2:You're gonna love him back.
Speaker 1:I was gonna do something. Well, you know what? I called a friend, a customer out there. He loved me, he lived out there in Utah and he went up there and got that mule and took care of it for me. That's what is good. I mean, we got people all over the country. If you ever come to a Canadian, you think you better stop. Well, we're going to Stop and see old Spanglish over here. Bring a trailer load out and we'll drive themlish over here. That's right. Yeah, bring a trailer load down. May not catch flynn at home, though. He may be off montana somewhere roping calves and running the roads. He might be busy starting colts and put your word. Yeah, he should have bought that team of two-year-olds out there. It ain't too late. It's not too late.
Speaker 2:I'll tell you what that colt. Starting a business is a better life man, yeah, but it's not a very good money-making deal.
Speaker 1:It hurts too sometimes he ain't charging enough?
Speaker 2:Fair enough, this man here's got money. Tell you what I know. He doesn't have any't you send them to me.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we don't do them kind of colts. Well, I got a wagon too. You can start driving colts. Well, buy them two-year-olds at a good price and start them for me. Bring them back now, buy them from me no, that's not how it's.
Speaker 2:I was thinking you send them to me and then I'd drive them and send them back.
Speaker 1:Well, that's a long way to send them, though, golly.
Speaker 2:They'd be broke when they got back.
Speaker 1:I like to travel. If I'm making money while traveling, yeah, I get to go a lot of places. We're actually getting ready to head out here tomorrow. What did you tell us yesterday? You've been to every state except Hawaii, every state except Hawaii. But I've sold a team to every state now, since two weeks ago I sold an Amish guy team in Delaware so I knocked Delaware off the list, so now I've got a team in every state and other countries. We sent a team to Jamaica this year, mexico, australia, canada, a lot, do a lot of Canada. That's awesome. A lot of Canada, not Canadian Texas, but Canada, canadian, canadian. What?
Speaker 2:do I do with them up there Canada? Drive them Same.
Speaker 1:thing we do Same thing. If we're more Canadian, he'll start selling more there A lot of our stuff's thing. If we're more Canadian, he'll start selling more there A lot of our stuff's commercial. Are we off there? We just lost electric. No, we got a backup on this thing. Okay, if electric goes out, it'll stay on like a while. Still keep going. We can still be on the computer, so we're good to go. Electric go out. We can keep talking. We can still be on the computer, so we're good to go. Let it go out. We can keep talking. We're still live. We're still live. We should have done a live podcast. That would have been a first. We could have done this live right on YouTube. I didn't think about that. That thing is we need a bleep button. Well, this thing I got. The way technology is nowadays, I'll run this track through a system on the computer and it'll fix it. If you cuss, it'll cut it out.
Speaker 2:I wouldn't be able to say nothing.
Speaker 1:It would be one long day It'll cut you out. It'll cut you out now.
Speaker 2:You have to give some of that life advice you were giving last night. Yeah, let's hear some of that. Who was she giving that to? It'll cut you out.
Speaker 1:It'll cut you out now.
Speaker 2:Who is he giving that to?
Speaker 1:All of us. He's giving it to me, but I think all of us learned something, all right. Well, we want to. What's your biggest thing in life, your life advice to us and all these millions of viewers out there?
Speaker 2:Step up to the plate. Tell them the beer can story. I'm blank.
Speaker 1:We put him on the spot. I'm blank. We put him on the spot now. Why blank? We put him on the spot now. Why don't I repeat those stories? I?
Speaker 2:have advice when I'm in front of women and children.
Speaker 1:It's cut to 75%, that's right, folks, we're sorry for all the laughing. We can help it. Hopefully y'all, hopefully y'all will be laughing with us out there on this podcast. So we have a good time around here and we're gonna sit here a little longer and wait on one of them life stories to come out. So, yeah, there is some out there. I I think oh Lord, I got a text from somebody on there on the computer so the Internet's back working Internet's back on.
Speaker 2:Tell them about some of your Walder Colt's garden stories. I can't remember none of them.
Speaker 1:You don't remember none of them.
Speaker 2:No, I can remember some, because I've heard some which one Tell them about the traveling out here and we're going see all the scenery, why you couldn't see nothing why, there's all the trees darn trees everywhere. Well, you didn't say it was strangely claustrophobic. Yeah, it was like a tunnel all the way.
Speaker 1:Well, you want to know something. It was a rebirth. When I go out west, I've went out and spent a month or two. When I get back here, I'm claustrophobic every time. I'm sure you are, because you get out there in that wide open and you're just so free and open, wide open, and you're just so free and open. You get back here on these little roads, you're covered, yeah, and the roads are just about wide enough for an f-350. Out there you got big shoulders and run 80 mile an hour where you, yeah, everywhere you go Except we don't do that, we just ease around. I bet you do. I bet you go about 90.
Speaker 1:No, tanner, there's a story about that. No, I don't drive fast About the easing around. Yeah, so we went down to yeah, give him the mic for this story.
Speaker 2:We were going down to the state finals in Gonzales, Texas.
Speaker 1:They're going to tell one on you now. Tanner Gonzales, texas.
Speaker 2:They're going to tell one on you. Now he calls me up and he goes hey, where are you at? I said we're going to leave it up, we're going to travel together. And I said well, we're right behind you somewhere. He said, well, you'll know when you catch me. He said I'm going about 45. I got a pile of traffic behind me. They're all flipping me off and cussing they're, and he still beat us down there, but he drove 45 the whole way exactly slow and steady state finals rodeo.
Speaker 1:Was he in it?
Speaker 2:yeah, was you in it did?
Speaker 1:what'd you do at?
Speaker 2:the golf cart. No, shaylee was in it. Yeah, shaylee, yeah, and then flint too, you were in it too. What Shaley? Yeah, and then Flint too, you were in it too, he was in one year.
Speaker 1:What did you do Flint in high school rodeo?
Speaker 2:Oh, in high school I just team rode.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 2:In junior I team rode up to Road Steer.
Speaker 2:And saddle bronc and rode Steer saddle bronc. Jeez, I retired from that, bro, you retired. I retired from that, broke your leg horribly. Yes, I rebounded from that and then got on a few horses and then retired. You did get on some horses, is that a bugger? He got tired of buying hats. Yeah, alan McCoy decided he was going to try to kill me off at a young age. Yeah, so I retired. He broke my egg. I don't hardly believe that, but I'm walking back up here and it goes. I'm going to jebo's my bottom, the cheapest hat they got. How I learned to ride them?
Speaker 2:well, that's what that's, that's what I used to do with the boys what that's what my boys, that's what we did. We went, went to Jibo's and I bought them old John Deere Stetsons that's what they wore.
Speaker 1:What's Jibo's? It's a little old tractor supply deal Okay.
Speaker 2:Yeah, everybody when I was a kid wore them old John Deere. We called them John Deere Stetsons. It's an old straw hat kind of like them Amishmen wear Like a half-pom know. Well, not kind of like that, but it's a course. You know, it's $5 back then, you know.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you can land on them and go get you another one. Yeah you can land on them and dunk them in the bathtub. Yeah, run it throw it in the trash, get another one, you know.
Speaker 1:It's so hot down there, though you don't didn't wear a straw hat. You're around about it, don't you? What did you say? It's so hot. It's so hot down there in Texas. You're about to wear a straw hat. You're around.
Speaker 2:Before that, he ain't missing a thing.
Speaker 1:Does he do y'all like that down there?
Speaker 2:No, but we was talking about unions and he said he missed it yesterday. Yeah, I've been, he missed all the yuns yesterday they kept saying did you hear him say yuns, I made a bad mistake about pointing it out. Tanner has focused on it every single time.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I was like I couldn't tell what he was talking about yuns.
Speaker 2:I kept thinking that's something in your loins, so I'm hearing it now Yuns.
Speaker 1:Some people even say Yunses, yunses, yeah, yunses.
Speaker 2:That sounds kind of sexual. I'm scared to say it now. We're in your kind of time.
Speaker 1:That voice got very far down the road. Oh shit, I've heard that my whole life. I don't even, I don't even hear it did you say that was yankee terminology? I guess it is. I don. You said it was, you said it was Yankee earlier.
Speaker 2:The only reason I said that is because I ain't around many Yankees and I never hear that.
Speaker 1:So that's the only thing I can tell you. Well, all I know is around here. You hear it all the time, but we're not Yankee, we're South, still ain't we? Well, I don't know you, you wouldn Well, you don't want to live here. It's Kentucky. No, in the Civil War, kentucky was a neutral state. I do remember that from school.
Speaker 2:But they converted to the Yankees.
Speaker 1:They did.
Speaker 2:That's what Steve looked up the other day, I see.
Speaker 1:But I bet it depended on what part of the state, what part of the state you was in.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but like what?
Speaker 1:do y'all call it a holler?
Speaker 2:Hollers, what do y'all call it? Hollers, hollers. Yeah, it's called drawers.
Speaker 1:That's that damn can yeah, today, when we was going down the hill, I told you look down there. You said there's a canyon yeah, not like the canyon. A canyon to us is the Grand Canyon, gully or Gullies. I was in Arizona and they called them washes. Yeah, they kept talking about the washes, the wash. We call them creeks.
Speaker 2:Damn. That. Man who used to live across the canyon from me called it a gunion. A man who used to live across the canyon from me called it a gunion. Let's get out Across the canyon in a gully.
Speaker 1:A gunion.
Speaker 2:I didn't know what to say to him. He's a big man, I get it. You know, charlie Walden, I've always said that.
Speaker 1:What was his name?
Speaker 2:I don't remember.
Speaker 1:Are you going to edit it out? No, I can, I can't, I ain't gonna edit it. I don't edit these podcasts. Whatever said goes on, I just let them rip. Good, that's good. I bet you that creek's rolling down there now, though yeah, it's a rolling you'll take a bath I'm going to tonight in that creek no, I'm gonna go out there in the horse stall you can walk outside and take a shower you walk outside.
Speaker 1:I'm gonna take a shower in the horse horse bay and go over here and go to bed. I already got it out there. Actually, I would work going in the rain, take a shower, I guess, but holistic bath. You don't get rain like that, do you?
Speaker 2:No, hell, no. That's another story about Tanner down there. He's down there studying. We're hanging out. He rented his living quarters trailer. We get down there and he's got a bedroll in the back of it not in the air-conditioned part, you got to understand this man in the back of it, not in the air conditioning part, in the Porsche part. You gotta understand this man. He exaggerates. No, he ain't. I was there and I seen every bit of it. So we're down there four, five days and finally I'm like. We call him Tanner, steve. I said Steve, we're good friends, but you're starting to stink a little bit, buddy, and he goes. Well, I don't't know why. I've been down to that Guadalupe every day, the Guadalupe River, which is a cesspool. We were swimming in it.
Speaker 1:We were swimming in it.
Speaker 2:Everybody was swimming in it though everybody's done but you didn't take a shower after you swam in it. I need to hear a steer gathering story down there when the steer dumps out, that was a good story. Yeah, that was kind of funny. We're sitting there watching, look out this barn and a steer jumps out and runs out this barn Out of the rodeo right now 1100 pound. Longhorn steer got antlers on his horns.
Speaker 2:He's running out across that parking lot and all of a sudden, here comes this black Chevy. It's speeding up, going longer. He gets in his neck and this black Chevy takes him down there and jumps him over a pickup. Oh shoot, yeah, they were forward pickups. Yeah, they were. I go down there and I go. What are you trying to do? And he said hell, I don't know. I just wanted to be in the chase, I was just trying to help you know that thing running off them cow.
Speaker 2:he's chasing him and I just tried to get his neck a little, bend him up toward that car and he jumped at the board. Pickup Guy gets down there and catches him on a barrel, a bow and a saw, catches this big sucker tied on, holds him still and Tanner comes pulling up with his trailer. He just went out in the parking lot. There's thousands of trailers in this parking lot. He just hooks onto one of them, to one of them and he goes, yank him in there.
Speaker 1:Boys, I said where did you get that trailer? And he goes hello, you know uh you remember fay?
Speaker 2:johnson, that big guy. Yes, he was whipping something, man, oh really, yeah, yeah, because I don't know if anybody said anything to me, they'd have to face him. You remember that guy, that the guy that was supposed to be picking up or whatever during that radio, and he was hooked on to him with Brent Charlesworth, yeah, and he wouldn't go to the end of it. You'd go go to the end of it, you fat bastard. No, I don't remember that I wouldn't have said anything like that. Yeah, and I looked at you and I said, hey, that fella's pretty big and he goes. If he ain't got any more trammel in that, I ain't worried about him. I think they're making this up.
Speaker 1:You don't remember it? Oh shit, that's one thing. You don't hear around here, these rodeo stories. It's just not a thing here.
Speaker 2:They don't have rodeos around here, they do, but it's just not a way of life. That's the best place to have rodeos where they don't have rodeos around here. They do, but it's just not a way of life. That's the best way where. That's the best place to have rodeos where they don't have them. Town people love that stuff. Yes but nobody does it here they have rodeo in texas, ain't nobody comes because they're so used to it yeah, I don't care.
Speaker 2:They got this network, netflix, either that, or they got four more rodeos than we can go to yeah, they don't care. Well, I like around here, like just running out, like getting cash for catching cattle, like that's all we're proud of.
Speaker 1:Well, nobody catches cattle here like that, they run them.
Speaker 2:You catch the calf tonight. Yeah, yeah, you rope him. No, give me that mic.
Speaker 1:He'll tell you about it. I got this old saboteur out here.
Speaker 2:And I went to pick me up an Amish boy and we went out in the pasture. You don't have to tell us this, you don't want to. We don't want to tell us this, you don't want to, we don't want you to feel pressured. Go ahead and finish your story, I'll pick up the number. I'm feeling a little nervous about the horse. He is, this guy, he's something else Might be the.
Speaker 2:Kentucky Deluxe and we got out the side by side and we chased that calf down through the woods and everything else and that thing ran through barbed wire fences and went in the woods and we got off the side by side and ran and chased out the woods and finally I grabbed a hold of its tail and that mama come running at me like crazy Woo, that mama was mad.
Speaker 2:And she's gone after me snorting and pawing and her head was down. She's coming to get me, but then that calf got away before I got to the spirit. I don't know which one it was. I'm going with the first one. Yeah, this man's got a face for radio.
Speaker 1:He's got a face for radio buddy.
Speaker 2:And then I tried again, and tried again.
Speaker 1:We chased that thing down so hard we was cutting, we was like an old cutting cow or cutting horse.
Speaker 2:Cutting cow yeah we were cutting. We don't have none of those. Well, I wish I had one yeah.
Speaker 1:We used to have that.
Speaker 2:No, we just had an old cutting horse out there with it, side to side we just turned it this way, turned it that way and finally we got it in a corner. We got that thing, threw it in the back of the side to side and took it over to the plate here. You didn't get it caught. Yeah, I got it caught. It tore it up a little bit though, that ball bar, yes, straight, cut it on its knee a little bit. Had it got its hands full, better shoulder, but I ain't do that. Sell it as a little ball path mark what?
Speaker 1:are you?
Speaker 2:going for one of these little I told him he sold it too cheap.
Speaker 1:I told him he sold it too cheap. What did you? You already sold it. I done sold them to a cop.
Speaker 2:A cop. Yeah, I'm trying to get good with the cops around here. What'd you get for it? Can you say what you got? I mean I, you better say it. We got you covered. I was listening to the wrong people to tell me what I should have sold it for.
Speaker 1:But I sold it for $300.
Speaker 2:That's good.
Speaker 1:Do you think that's good?
Speaker 2:Well, it'd be for that other old boy, for that gone. You know Texas boys, where do you think a two-year-old calf would have gone? A two-year-old calf, A two-week-old, but not a two-year-old.
Speaker 1:Two-week-old Charlay White.
Speaker 2:Well, I'll tell you what. I'll give you $100 for every one you've got. That's all I can tell you about that. If not, I'm going to treat you like that little army.
Speaker 1:Oh Lord, I let him in wrong.
Speaker 2:Yeah, these are this kid that I was watching sell. He was a Red mark.
Speaker 1:Damn good like yeah, yeah, golly, do you sell just the local stockyard there in Canadian?
Speaker 2:Well, they usually carry them over to Woodford or Greenwood. You missed that one. It's been years.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I did hear it too, but I let it kind of go. You're getting used to it. You're going to start saying it. You're going to go back to Texas and say Yun's.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I know. Well, I better keep that to myself. What are you going to say?
Speaker 1:Oh Yun's Well.
Speaker 2:Yun, it was boys.
Speaker 1:Elijah, do you have anything to say tonight? Have you enjoyed your day today and tonight? You don't want to talk on the microphone.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I've enjoyed my day. Get a little closer. Hey, do you ever get up and do any kind of horse cranes, like tell them to drive them First time he's ever drunk? Can you help him out a little?
Speaker 1:Just drive them. You're pretty good at whooping the shit out of them. Why Jay in the team? He's a metal worker.
Speaker 2:He looked like he knew what he was doing. He knows how to drive.
Speaker 1:He had a good trainer.
Speaker 2:I weld pieces of steel together.
Speaker 1:I ain't no horse driver. Henry's trained him since October.
Speaker 2:Henry's his trainer. Since October, Henry taught him how I see I ain't been driving for a team for over a year. It's been kind of short really. You're making some eye contact with that Mac. It's awkward.
Speaker 1:He's not used to microphones.
Speaker 2:Especially with Ted talking shit, it gets real awkward.
Speaker 1:When I'm in here using the phone to talk to customers. This is what I talk on. I got my phone hooked through the computer. I just keep back here and talk on the phone through the microphone.
Speaker 2:You're looking at it, but you're looking up. I guess that makes it even better. You already made it weird. I like that about it.
Speaker 1:Good for you, oh Lord, oh lord. So you ain't seen rain like this in your life in a while?
Speaker 2:huh, probably not. You don't get rain like this. Well, yeah, every now and then it'll rain. Good, so we're talking earlier. We get 20 inches a year yeah, that's right. Well, he said until the other day was over, but it were troughing and we get about 18 inches of gear and I I walked by and heard him say that yeah and I said yeah, you are to be there the day it comes we get about 20 inches of rain a month.
Speaker 1:In the rain March and April we get a lot of rain man 20 inches a month we do in March and April, don't we it pours? I don't know. I don't know if we get 20 inches, but we get a lot of rain. This time of year, it rains about every day. Good for you. I don't know if we get 20 inches, but we get a lot of rain.
Speaker 2:This time of year it rains about every day Good for you.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we need rain right now, though we need it this year though. Yeah, you in.
Speaker 2:Crazy. Good it started late, but we've got volunteer rain, more rain than we could have had. That's what that owner guy at that store was telling me.
Speaker 1:It was starting to dry up around here. What store did you go to? The one that wasn't you? Oh, sunny valley yeah, that's a good store all mennonites no amish oh well, he asked me, that's mennonites, that's mennonites, that's a damn good store. We didn't go to the amish store we talked about, remember, with the fighting chickens. No, the one, no, we didn't go there either we was going to the can dogs either. Well, we can go tonight. Everybody's out at night that run coon dogs you know, somebody went out there.
Speaker 2:While go, there's dogs bawling in the background.
Speaker 1:Hey, somebody hunting here somewhere in this county. No, but that store that's got the warmer, the walnut warmer. Yeah, he's wanting to get wormed. Remember, you think I'm wormy, you could be a little wormy.
Speaker 2:Yeah, something wrong with you, maybe a brain worm.
Speaker 1:During COVID around here.
Speaker 2:Might be something I get smarter.
Speaker 1:No, he's just starving to death During COVID around here, all the Amish and Mennonites around here during COVID was taking ivermectin Like crazy and it wormed them.
Speaker 2:Ivermectin. Did you take some of it?
Speaker 1:I took some yeah Did you take some out?
Speaker 2:I took some. Yeah, did you see them worms come out?
Speaker 1:No, I didn't look, but I just flushed it.
Speaker 2:I didn't look to see if the worm was here or not.
Speaker 1:I don't want to look, I'm just worried about it later. How do you appreciate it if you don't look at it? I guess I don't know that black walnut. They say that they take the holes. You probably know the walnut tree is deep. You ain't seen one, ain't no walnut trees, they ain't no trees in texas. But they take the holes off in walnuts and extract them. I don't know how they do it, but that's that juice in them bottles, that black walnut extract and you take about a teaspoon three or four times a day and it worms you, they say tanner's used to the black wood, but it ain't walnut thank you for your time, oh lord we can go over at night to that store, though I forgot about taking y'all over what about the hounds and the fighting chickens?
Speaker 1:can we go there tonight too?
Speaker 2:we could, yeah tanner said he wanted him some game hens well, they sell them right over the road.
Speaker 1:All kinds of them.
Speaker 2:Well, I want me some hens and roosters well them one boys.
Speaker 1:They got in trouble. There's a big thing here 20 of them got indicted on fighting chickens. I don't want to fight them.
Speaker 2:I want to raise them yeah, they was gambling.
Speaker 1:That's what it is. In the state of k, kentucky, you're not allowed to gamble. Okay, well, in that case I might fight them, but I don't want to bet money on them. They sell the hens Really. Oh yeah, elijah probably knows where to go to get them.
Speaker 2:What about some laying in?
Speaker 1:land. Call that boy down there, the chicken man. Call chicken man and ask him where we can get them. These boys want to take some back with them, and he might even bring them up here and deliver them. He's that kind of guy he could, mightn't he?
Speaker 2:Yeah, what's that come from? Deliver chickens.
Speaker 1:Probably free if you buy them. He's Chicken man, big time Chicken man Loves them. He has a chicken sale.
Speaker 2:You wouldn't do that on his team. You told me it's gonna be expensive for you to haul that team to me.
Speaker 1:I know well he's just coming. Probably where's timmy live a few miles up the road, about 20 miles, not far, not far and we could go there and get the chickens too, but he's got them. If you want game chickens to take back, that'd be the place. I forgot about him. That'd be the place to go. He'd have plenty of chickens.
Speaker 2:The only thing that lives in my house is game hens.
Speaker 1:The game hens, yep. Everything else kills them Because they can fly away.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they're tough.
Speaker 1:And you just can use game hens for eggs to eat and you just can use game hens for eggs to eat.
Speaker 2:Yes, yes.
Speaker 1:Them loins again. Yes, oh.
Speaker 2:I didn't want to say anything. You had a vibe on yeah.
Speaker 1:Everybody out there. If anybody out there says yuns, put it in the comments and show Tanner that other people say it besides just me and Victoror, and where you're from. If you say it, that's right. I've heard it from my grandma, my mommy and all of my whole life possibly I'm a horrible judge of that.
Speaker 2:This guy, he's wild. He took these horses out and he just he was going for it. He didn't know what they was, he just got on that wagon and he just went for it, trotting them all over the barn. Oh hell, he wasn't going to do it, this man, he'd rather get some rope, you know.
Speaker 1:He was okay. I knew he was all right. You acted pretty nervous when he left. I was a little bit because I thought he was going to slap him and he's going to run off with him. I was a little bit I was a little bit well, a fresh horse, a fresh horse been in the barn standing and get on it and slap it with the reins. Yeah.
Speaker 2:I didn't slap him, I just booched at him.
Speaker 1:That's what Henry likes doing, that kind of stuff. Sometimes that sucker.
Speaker 2:What kind of stuff?
Speaker 1:Runaway horses. You thought they was running away with me. He'll try to. He'll get on there and just try to make them run to scare people. But he knows he's got them. Yeah, he can hold them. Yeah, I don't like that real runway stuff. Henry is a horse driver.
Speaker 2:Boy he is.
Speaker 1:I've seen him. I wish you all could have met Henry. Yeah, if Henry would have been here tonight, we'd have been on them, two-year-olds, somewhere down on the creek bottom.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Driving driving horses, because he'd have harnessed them and been gone with it.
Speaker 2:How come you don't drive none of?
Speaker 1:them Too busy doing all this.
Speaker 2:Well, you was riding with us.
Speaker 1:How come you don't get up there and drive none of them, man, I could, but I let the customers drive. They're the ones buying them. It's all I can do right now. While we've been doing this podcast, I got people texting like crazy Are you awake? Call me, call me, phone call, phone call. I'm so behind. I could sit in this office for two weeks and work. That's how behind I am. I still got invoices to send tonight to Wyoming and I got to get your all this paperwork printed your cognizance and stuff still.
Speaker 2:Well, good for you.
Speaker 1:See, henry can't do none of that because he's he ain't allowed, he's a Mennonite.
Speaker 2:He can't write.
Speaker 1:He can't use a computer. They ain't allowed to use a computer.
Speaker 2:How do you become a Mennonite?
Speaker 1:Well, elijah's here, he's a Mennonite. Can Tanner become a Mennonite, elijah? Elijah's here, he's a.
Speaker 2:Mennonite. Can Tanner become a Mennonite, Elijah? Yeah, he can.
Speaker 1:There you go.
Speaker 2:How do you do it Go to church? You just come to our church and put away your phone, your vehicle. You can become a Mennonite.
Speaker 1:There you go.
Speaker 2:Good, become a member of it. When I was a kid, I always wanted to become Jewish around Christmas, christmas.
Speaker 1:Oh Lord, that was a good one. That was a good one, was a good one. Does anybody have any final words? It's been good. I'll remember this podcast. It's gonna be a good one. Do you have any final what? You never told us? That thing that thought that life advice.
Speaker 2:I don't, I don't have any good life advice. Well, they're the ones said it never had any good life advice. Yeah, that life advice.
Speaker 1:I don't have any good life advice. I don't want to hear it. Well, they're the ones that said it.
Speaker 2:I've never had any good life advice. Just give some life advice. I don't have, I'm blank. If a young father was to try to fall in love, what would he have to look for?
Speaker 1:Okay, Victor, listen up.
Speaker 2:Listen up To get what you want as a female. To get what you want as in which one you want, you either need to have money or appear to, and then can pick out what you want, and then after that, when she figures out you ain't got any, you're on your own.
Speaker 1:That's all I know about it that's a texas cowboy's advice to love yeah, and it's the truth y'all out there remember that that's. That's the real advice. That's, and it's the truth. Y'all out there, remember that. That's some real advice. That's the truth.
Speaker 2:That's the truth, if you got enough money, you can get what you want, but if you don't have it, you better appear to have it.
Speaker 1:That's kind of the truth in a lot of things too it is.
Speaker 2:Well, I can go into think I'm better than that.
Speaker 1:That's some pretty good life advice, tanner. Yeah, I'll remember that.
Speaker 2:I was way better than last night. Yeah, I don't know, I got into a little more detail about that, about the value, okay, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:So what you're saying is we should have been down at the Airbnb cabin last night with Max. Yes, you should have, and we'd have got the real thank y'all.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I've enjoyed probably.
Speaker 1:Thank y'all. I've enjoyed the day with y'all all day. We've enjoyed it a blast. Going to wish you'd stay in another day. You hang out with Henry, with us tomorrow. Yeah, I wanted to meet Henry. Well, you can meet him if you stay tomorrow until about 530 or something, but you won't meet him unless you do Well we better get around tomorrow.
Speaker 1:We might screw up by the team that's what we want, so just hang out tomorrow and go home the next day. Yeah, it's easy to do. I mean, you only come this way once in your whole life, literally, and you're 48, so you might as well stay another day do you say 48? That's what you said.
Speaker 2:I'm actually 32.
Speaker 1:Joe, you still over there. I'm here. All right, we didn't get Joe. He didn't talk on the podcast and even the mic. He still don't want to talk. We got Travis to talk a little bit. He lives right here. Yeah, tell us about it, joe. Tell them about the mic.
Speaker 2:You tell them about it. What's the?
Speaker 1:name of it, just talk. Joe is kind of Joe's microphone shot.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they were doing battle over that mic. That is so disgusting.
Speaker 1:Do you still live there?
Speaker 2:21 miles outside of canadian. Then we left and went through several minutes and then joe's been there for how did? 1516 years, 1334 sections.
Speaker 1:Bigger place. This thing's broke on me. That's the thing around here. You don't hear his sections. You don't hear it's sections. That thing's broke. It did break. That mic stand's broke on me. You don't hear nothing about sections around here. Yeah, our country's so open. I know it ain't broke up in acres and it's in squares. You don't hear the word section around here. It's all acres.
Speaker 2:Well, it's better here.
Speaker 1:It's what.
Speaker 2:Better, better.
Speaker 1:Better. Around here it's all acres, well, it's better. Here it's what. Better, better, better. Well, you move here. Well, like you're talking running them cows, I know I mean you're running a cow on them on an acre oh yeah that's crazy, man.
Speaker 2:We're running a cow at 25 acres. Looks so dry we're 30 or 30 decent. Yeah, we've had a good spring and we're still on 25 acres decent year. It was pretty good. That's crazy. And he was like, oh, we're starting to get dry it ain't dry until the grass burns, you don't look good right well it's starting to get dry to us. Yeah, if the grass is green. We had a good spring and it's still a gyro over there, like when we're dry, like probably. Oh, by the first of July it's brown.
Speaker 1:Everywhere it looks like dead winter. I've been through that country. I know that's why we have the big fires, because there's ain't nothing. You ain't had no fires this year, much have you.
Speaker 2:No, sir, no Well it's been green, we're still green. It's a weird year, like more rain than we've ever seen.
Speaker 1:But you think it'll still dry up this year yet.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, this fall it'll turn brown and you gotta pray through the winter that something don't happen.
Speaker 1:Cause you don't get snow.
Speaker 2:Not anymore. Not very often Used to snow all winter.
Speaker 1:Did it. You already have it yeah when I was a kid.
Speaker 2:Out there you know you don't have to get in the truck and do your stuff out. Now you get snow and it's gone and it's dying. You don't have to do your stuff out.
Speaker 1:Climate, climate's changing.
Speaker 2:It's definitely different.
Speaker 1:Global warming. They say yeah, I don't know if I believe that, I don't know if I do or not either, but that's what they say.
Speaker 2:I don't know if I do or not either, but that's what they say. I just kind of believe in cycles and you go through a cycle and in a change you go through another cycle.
Speaker 1:Yeah, 2015 here. I remember we had like 26 inches of snow In 2015? At one time, a blizzard 26, 27 inches. That drought kind of broke about that time back then, but since then 15 16 winter yeah, since then we got about last year. Oh, I do remember that too. Yeah, six inches maybe. Yeah, one snow, one or two sn.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we had big snow back then.
Speaker 1:We don't get nowhere near the snow we used to here.
Speaker 2:No, in 13,. There was a big sun gun up there.
Speaker 1:Because it On the Golly.
Speaker 2:Back on the backside of the house there where the porch is. There in Glacier it covered the club lot, that side of the house club lot.
Speaker 1:I forgot about that they had 20-something inches of snow and fall at it A lot of snow. Yeah, that's good for it. We need more of it here, but we don't get it no more. We sure don't. Don't get ice storms sometimes. I was in Texarkana last winter winter and they got an ice storm and they shut the road down. There wasn't even no ice, it's barely wet. Scared to death, I had to pull over and sleep in the truck. Couldn't go home. They wouldn't let me go past the interstate on 30 or nothing and texasana.
Speaker 1:Yeah, Texarkana.
Speaker 2:All around home.
Speaker 1:They just take it after it and take it, crash, and then they come and get you.
Speaker 2:Texas is so big you can live there your whole life and never go to all of it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I don't know what you'd want to, but yeah, I've been to about all of it, have you? I've been from El Paso to Amarillo, to all the way to Texas, our Canada, all over that state. Good for you, and it's a major change from east to west Texas Huge.
Speaker 2:Huge. Yeah, I've got it Sted. I went over there around Athens a year or two ago and bought a bull. It was kind of like it is here. You can't see nothing.
Speaker 1:East Texas, red Hope, east Texas, like it is here, you can't see nothing. East Texas, red Hope. East Texas is about like here, it's very close.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, I didn't like it working for them.
Speaker 1:You didn't.
Speaker 2:No.
Speaker 1:It's green.
Speaker 2:I like that Joe originated in East Texas.
Speaker 1:Yeah, what town was that? Kettle Mills? Yeah, kettle Mills. You originated in Canadian, didn't you? No, what was that town? You said?
Speaker 2:Lockney.
Speaker 1:Lockney, yeah, you're in Canadian nine years, no Four or five. How did you all meet? I know you two are father and son, but I met.
Speaker 2:Tanner. We were rodeoing in the ranch rodeos, love working with bears, met Tanner there and then we day worked together a whole bunch, which I don't feel like. We day worked in the industry.
Speaker 1:I don't.
Speaker 2:Like ranchers cowboys that don't work on the ranch to come help them work Okay. Part-time labor contract labor.
Speaker 1:So how does joe come in the mix?
Speaker 2:joe moved up there on a ranch. It had been west of canadian, down the river, and I was going out there every night. Man, some people are a little better than me. I've tried to hang out joe joseph herman and he would leave me stranded and he ended up moving out there where I grew up okay, so y'all see each other a lot yes, sir, yeah, his wife and my wife. His wife runs a restaurant there in canada and my wife helps okay, it Okay.
Speaker 1:You see them a lot then too, oh yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:You see him a lot probably.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, yeah, he was the same age as my boys. You run with his boys, then Well, we rode together a little bit.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, that's good. All right, we're going to shut this thing down. You got any final words, elijah, for the viewers no final words listeners well, yeah, there won't be no viewers on this because we didn't do cameras come on, canadian Texas and hang out, that'd probably be alright, yeah kill wild hogs in october at the barbecue y'all need to come. Well, it's just a couple months.
Speaker 2:I would have put a deposit down on this team and then waited till october to come pick them up. Would that have been okay?
Speaker 1:they wouldn't. They'd been sold, but you could have got a different team. You know we always have teams.
Speaker 2:Well, if you'd have this team for me and told me I was having a barbecue. I'll wait until october to come get you you can come back in october.
Speaker 1:Just head out, get a bunch of buddies together and head up here and stay a week. That's what you need to do. Come out here and be entertainment. Yeah, bring him, we'll put him on the comedian stage. The bad thing is, in October we're weaning calves. We're very busy. He can talk that Spanglish at the.
Speaker 2:I ain't sure it's Spanglish, everybody's going to laugh, but nobody's going to know what he said.
Speaker 1:I was going out. One more thing. I was going out 40. Three Amarillo, one night, real late, and I hit one of them javelinas. You seen one of them, mm-mm. I knocked one of them, suckers winding with the front of my truck. Yeah, I bet it wasn't a javelina. Well, that's what they said it was. It was just a wild pig.
Speaker 2:What is a javelina? A javelina is a different species. The javelina is a different species. It's more like a rat than it is a pig. Yeah, the majority of the wild pigs over there are feral. It's just a feral hog. The javelinas are more around. You start getting that thing around burning. Yeah, they got them, but Is that what you buy them, rilla? Yeah, I guarantee that's feral hog. Yeah, it is. F Trail hog gets bigger. It's like running into a brick wall. I've got trail hogs who said it was a javelina.
Speaker 1:I sold some mules to a people in Corsicana.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's East Texas.
Speaker 1:And they told me that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, well, that's a different breed a lot of different breeds across you kill them. I got wild pigs on my police. They ain't that linked to wild pigs yeah, they're a feral pig and they're like hitting brick walls.
Speaker 1:You kill them.
Speaker 2:Trap them to kill them. And then had a guy hit one. Oh, they hit two. I guess they get two on the highway and it does mess them up. Trap them to a cell mostly for people to eat. Yeah, trap them to a cell Europeans like to eat them.
Speaker 2:Well, they ship them overseas like Europe and all that, but down around Dallas, fort Worth. This last guy that I sold to told me around Dallas, fort Worth they lock them in big cities over there because they're all natural. They ain't got none of them, vaccines or nothing like that.
Speaker 1:How much do you sell them for?
Speaker 2:Not very much, but more than you get if you just get rid of them, get rid of them.
Speaker 1:Yeah, they're a nuisance.
Speaker 2:Oh, they're bad. They have three litters, they're pretty destructive. They can have three litters a year and not take it over.
Speaker 1:And they root the ground up.
Speaker 2:And three litters is probably around 30, 40 pounds. Yeah, they're terrible.
Speaker 1:They got big old tusks.
Speaker 2:The boars do Bigging, yeah big old tusk, the boars do Big one. Yeah, my nephew, he was going to catch him. He turned around and come back running that horse and cut the dook out of this horse. And tusks are sharp.
Speaker 1:They'll fight you.
Speaker 2:Hell, I raised one, you did I caught a baby and raised it?
Speaker 2:Well, I caught it. Mom, did you eat it? No, I raised one, you did, I did. Caught a baby and raised it? Caught a baby? Well, I caught it. Mom, did you eat it? No, I turned it loose. I couldn't eat it. Did it stink? No, it really didn't. Tagged it and turned it loose as a sow? Yeah, it was a sow, I caught one. I took my hounds back when I had their kendo, their kendo, yeah. And first time I went out there I was on a two-year-old and I only had like three rides on her and I've seen this, these pigs, I've seen these pigs out there and I was gonna catch one of them. It didn't, it didn't go very good. Then the next time I come back and I was on a broke horse and I took my dogs with me because pigs can run fast, and I took my hounds with me. I figured if they seen a pig they'd probably bark at it.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:So I took them and they bait them up and I got them pawing mad where they wouldn't run off and I caught one of them, loaded it in the trailer and then my dogs got on another one ran off chasing this other one and then my collars died.
Speaker 2:My tracking collars died while they were chasing this other one, so I had no clue where they were. I went down, I loaded that one and I drove down the road with my dogs. I went back, I rode back to the back of this pasture I was going to see if they were still in there and I jumped a bunch of babies and I caught I bet she wasn't probably that tall, probably four or five inches tall and I caught her and I went to the back end of it, didn't see my dog. So I rode back and packed her the whole way, I threw her in my dog box and then drove back on a different road and finally found them by 10 o'clock that night. Yeah, but I raised this little baby pig and she got about 150.
Speaker 2:Ain't sure that's the house, that little baby. Like them, babies are tiger strap like an f1 cow.
Speaker 1:Yeah, this one wasn't.
Speaker 2:This one was one of them, both skinned and black paint ones, but she had. She had some strips on her I've seen if you set her down, she'll run off because they're, you know, wild crap. When he sets her down, he walks off and she goes squealing like hey, runs over and gets on his feet damn every time he moves his wheel around y'all's feet.
Speaker 2:He raised her up to probably 150 pounds. Yep, finally I see, yeah, we can get rid of her, but we want to tag her so somebody can shoot her. So we tagged her to the place. Well, he tags her, with the company that I was working for to tag, and a guy calls and says what in the hell y'all doing turning a wild pig loose on my place? Well, he told me to tag her.
Speaker 2:So we had heifer tags that were pink and steer tags that were blue and I blue and I was thinking she's a female pig, so pink one and I did, and it didn't work out.
Speaker 2:So he goes and loads her cheese jams. He goes and loads her and he turns her out like it's remote as hell it's 30 miles from anybody and he pulls in there two weeks later and we see that he comes crawling up behind the pickup looking for him. But she's just weird. Yeah, she tried behind the pick it up and it was about when you got this pasture, the fence line, the back face line of the pasture was right on it, dropped off and the river was down there and but the front fence line probably a mile. And she followed me from back of it because when I dumped her out I dumped her down that hill to the river and when I pulled in there that day that she'd come and found me, I got all the way to the front fence line of it, looked in my mirror, probably a good mile from the river, and she was trying to pick up and I got out to see if I could touch her or the pet or you know, and she just she would never let me get real close to her.
Speaker 2:She let me get close to her but not yeah close enough to touch her and she turned around, tried back to the river and I never stayed here again. So I guess we're adding to the pig population. She knew your smell well. No, because they flew the river about two weeks later and shot pigs off of us. I bet she didn't think of it.
Speaker 1:These people I know live in Texas Heidi Shepard and her husband, matt, heidi Shepard yeah, why don't we know that name Shepard Ranch? But both of them I don't know, matt and Heidi. They got a daughter named Gracie and a son named Charlie Good customers. I sold them a few mules and horses. They own Shepherd Ranch. They raise longhorns. They're south of Dallas a little ways and they they use infrared and hunt hogs with a helicopter. Yeah, that'd be fun, I want to do that. They let people come out.
Speaker 2:You know, know, you pay them to go do it, yeah you want to go out there and do it and see if you can take one of us with you, right I?
Speaker 1:want to go out there. I want to come to canadian texas and hunt them on cyber sites, chase them down well, there ain't enough flat ground for that.
Speaker 2:Who does that?
Speaker 1:that you can't do that in Canadian. You can't do that down there.
Speaker 2:Not in Canadian.
Speaker 1:What's that?
Speaker 2:guy Colt's buddy that does that Side by side.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:They chase them down On them circles. That'd be more of Vernon and Muleshoe, where there's farmland. I got circles and I got pig. We can negotiate. All right, we can negotiate.
Speaker 1:I like to kill 10 or 12 of them for fun Wild hogs and cook them.
Speaker 2:Yes, for hell. I'll tell you what I can do you one better. If we do some negotiating on some teams in the future, I can trap you and get 40 pounders still alive where they're not real stressed out when you kill them about 40 pounders what you want to eat yes, yes, and they're real tender.
Speaker 1:That way, they ain't got all that I like to load up a load like me and henry and elijah and lamar and everly and benny and victor and Everly and Benny and Victor and a whole load of people and go down there to Texas and go wild hog hunting.
Speaker 2:That sounds real good, but we don't want Victor. Just kidding Victor, oh Lord.
Speaker 1:We'd bring Victor, he would enjoy it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, like around us we don't have the pigs like they do down in Dallas area past.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:I mean we got. Paducah is pig capital of the world, wild pig capital of the world. I drove on the highway one day, yeah, leaving Paducah. I drove on the highway and looked on the side of the road. I passed a big sounder at pigs, about 40 or 50. Just standing in the bar ditch from the shoulder of the road in the bar ditch. I had to do a pasture about 40, 50 of them and drove past them about 80 miles an hour and they never moved.
Speaker 2:One time they picked their heads up, nothing, just kept grazing know, we got a paducah kentucky too I think that's where that come from we got a paducah kentucky I can kind of see the connection it's way west. Here I've been out here in kentucky and I've been living in paducah for a while. I see what's happening.
Speaker 1:All right boys, we'll do that. All right, we're going to shut this rig down tonight. Lodger probably wants to go home. It's 1130. Your wife might want to know why you ain't home.
Speaker 2:My figure's about driving another team.
Speaker 1:And you're just going to leave in about five hours. What do you say? You're just going to leave in about five hours. You're just going to leave in about five hours. Y'all are leaving in about five hours. It's going to be quick. Yeah, it ain't going to take long. You have to take turns driving and somebody sleep too, unless you decide to stay tomorrow too and tomorrow night and hang out and drive horses.
Speaker 2:We might, me and Henry.
Speaker 1:Well, you can, it can happen. How?
Speaker 2:willing to negotiate a little bit to stay tomorrow.
Speaker 1:On them. Red horses? No, any of them. Yeah, we'll help you a little bit, just a touch. Just a little bit.
Speaker 2:A fondle. That's what I'm looking for.
Speaker 1:I remember as a young. Couple dollars. A touch was not enough. Couple dollars.
Speaker 2:This fondling is big A couple dollars, yeah, a couple dollars. It's fondling you. I don't know that guy.
Speaker 1:A couple dollars.
Speaker 2:Yeah, a couple dollars.
Speaker 1:Hey, it'd be worth it. You'll have a good time tomorrow, that's right.
Speaker 2:I don't doubt that I'll have a good time sleeping in my own bed too.
Speaker 1:Oh no, that's overrated. Stay on the rose, more fun.
Speaker 2:It's been great.
Speaker 1:More fun. It's been great More fun. Thank you, a lot more.
Speaker 2:All right.
Speaker 1:Thank you, thank y'all, thank you. We enjoyed it. We appreciate you. I'm glad we done this. We'll remember this night. Yes, sir, all right, joe, thank you, thank you, every one of you, it's even.
Speaker 2:Spanglish over here. Gracias, even spanglish over here.
Speaker 1:you'll be saying the star spanglish man. Guys, thank you all for listening. Hope you've enjoyed this podcast. We had it's. It's been fun, we've enjoyed it and we thank y'all. Be sure to check out our website at wwwdrafthorsesandmulesforsalecom. Check out all of our teams for sale. Like us on social media. Subscribe to the YouTube channel. We thank you. God bless you and until the next one, we'll see you soon.
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