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Investing in Real Estate Using a Self Directed IRA With Nate Hare
Discover the transformative power of self-directed IRAs with Nate Hare as he shares valuable insights on retirement investments. Learn practical strategies that can help you build generational wealth through alternative assets.
- Options for managing multiple IRAs and their benefits.
- How Directed IRA supports investing in real estate and promissory notes.
- Differences between traditional and Roth IRAs, and why Roth IRAs might be more beneficial.
- Success stories of clients achieving substantial growth through self-directed investments.
- Important rules and considerations for disqualified persons and allowed transactions.
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Welcome back to The BRRRR Investor Podcast, where our mission is to empower aspiring real estate investors in their journey towards building generational wealth.
Today, we're extremely honored to welcome Nate Hare, the executive director at directed Ira and a distinguished figure in the self directed IRA industry. With a decade of experience, Nate has made his mark as an executive educator and sought after public speaker in the realm of self directed retirement investments. Holding the esteemed title of CISP, a certified IRA service professional, Nay also brings to the table his expertise as a licensed loan officer coupled with extensive experience in real estate and business development. Since beginning his journey as a real estate investor in 2002 and stepping into private lending in 2014, Nate has personally overseen thousands of investments spanning real estate, promissory notes, private equity and more. His profound knowledge on self direction has not only led him to contribute to notable platforms like us news and World Report and Fox Morning News, but also to share his insights at hundreds of conferences, webinars and podcasts nationwide. In recognition of his impact and contribution to the financial sector, Nate was named to the top 100 people in finance by top 100 magazine in 2019. Today, he's here to unpack the complexities of self directed iras and share his wealth of knowledge with us. Nate, it's a privilege to have you here on this podcast. We're eager to dive into the insights you have to share with us.
Well, thanks for having me. That makes me sound very busy.
There's a lot to say. There's a lot of accomplishments. So we do appreciate you taking the time and coming out here.
Glad to be here, for sure.
So tell us a little bit about, you know, self directed Ira. What do you, who are you guys and what do you guys do?
So I work at a company called Directed Ira. All that really means is we are a IRA custodian, much like a fidelity or Charles Schwab. We just hold different types of assets. They hold stocks and bonds. We hold private assets or alternative assets like real estate and promissory notes and some assets that we'll talk about. But we're a licensed IRA custodian. Clients have retirement accounts with us, but it's for the purpose of buying alternative assets instead of publicly traded assets.
Perfect. Okay. And for our listeners who are new to this concept, can you explain what a self directed IRA is and how it differs from traditional retirement accounts?
Sure. And there's a lot of misconceptions as to what self direction is. And really, when you say self directed IRA, self direct is just a marketing term. It really means nothing. It's not a type of IRA. It's not a special retirement account that fits a different set of rules. It's just a marketing term that signifies when you have an IRA with us, we don't have investments to sell, so we call it self directed because our clients have to choose and find their own investments. We act as the buyer with their retirement account, but we don't have a list of investments to sell. We don't have a bunch of mutual funds to sell. So it's a little confusing because there's self directed iras at Vanguard. I don't know if you knew that. No, but they're self directed into their wonderful mutual funds that they offer. So the term can be used very loosely, but we call it self directed because we truly find it self directed because our clients have to find investments. We don't have investments to sell them.
Okay, very cool. And what are the types of investments that can be made with a self directed IRA that are typically not possible with other iras?
So when you look at the IR's code, if you're going to think about what do I want to invest in with my retirement account? And this goes for iras, 401 ks, 403, B, the rules are all pretty much the same. The IR's doesn't care about what we invest in. They only care about two investments that they don't want to see in retirement accounts, and that's life insurance contracts and collectibles. So those are the only two investments not allowed in a retirement plan. Now, most people don't realize that you can invest in all sorts of other things, because when you have a retirement account with a traditional broker or wealth advisor, they're only going to allow you to hold in their retirement account the things that they sell, which are your traditional stocks, bonds, mutual funds, cds, those types of investments. But there's nothing preventing somebody from taking their retirement account and buying a rental property, or doing a loan to a real estate investor, or investing into a startup company that's not publicly traded or investing in cryptocurrency. These are all allowable investments. The only difference is when you want to invest in those things that aren't publicly traded, you have to use a company like us that will facilitate the buying of that investment and hold it on behalf of your retirement account until you take distribution. So it's pretty wide open. The IR's does not care what we invest in. Besides those two things, life insurance, contracts and collectibles, anything else is fair game.
So you guys are like that vehicle that allows them to invest in these alternative assets like you mentioned.
Correct. Anytime you buy an investment through your retirement account, you have to buy it through the custodian of the account, like a fidelity or Charles swap. We just act as the custodian of the account. So we're going to still buy the investment. Whatever the investment is, we'll still buy it as your IRA's custodian. But you have to tell us what that investment is if you're a client of ours.
It's amazing. I recently learned about this a couple years ago, and it was mind blowing. It's something that I really enjoy more, is not many people know about it, and I didn't know that you can actually do that. All I knew is, you know, you work for a company you invested in, you know, the mutual funds, they tell you based on your risk tolerance, where you want to be, they advise you on that, but you have no control over it. And now that you can actually use it to invest in, like, assets, like real estate, that's a game changer. And that's why, like, I will want to, you know, educate as many people about it as possible because I feel it could impact people's lives in a very positive way. So as you can imagine, you know, I'm just very passionate about it.
Well, I mean, I became passionate about it when I first learned about it because the same thing I thought, how come I never knew this? I thought I was a smart guy. I was investing in real estate back in 2004. I had a lot of rental property and I had an IRA. It was a Sep IRA because I was self employed back then. All I was told was I just needed to put money in it and let somebody else invest it. It was invested in stocks. I thought, like everybody else, I knew that's just how you invested for retirement. Well, in 2012, I learned about this self directed IRA and that I could actually take that same money and not buy stock, but do loans to real estate investors or even buy investment property. And at first I thought, well, that sounds illegal. I didn't know about that. I mean, I can do all those same investments that I know and understand. I can do that in a retirement account and pay no taxes. I thought I could just buy stocks. And that's how most people are, are learning. It's probably with our parents and our parents, but, you know, no fault to there. They don't, they don't know about it either. But we're just taught to, like you said, work at a company, put money in that 401K, let somebody else invest it for you, and then that's how you retire. But no, it's not.
Yeah.
Yeah.
One of my first experience working in corporate America, I lost my retirement account in 2008 when the market fluctuated. Cause I had it in, you know, whatever they recommended to have it in. And, you know, not until, you know, when I left corporate America, I became full time realtor and an investor when I realized, like, I have a 401K, what I do, so I learned that you can roll that over. Now. When I rolled it over, I was informed that you can actually buy your own stock. So I was excited about that. Like, I can actually buy stocks and not necessarily, you know, the mutual funds that they're forcing me to buy. And then now I'm exposed to this whole new world.
Yeah.
I'm like, wow, you know, so it's.
It'S crazy and it's powerful, especially if, you know, if anybody is out there that understands how to make money doing something. I mean, you're a perfect example, right? You're a real estate agent, real estate investor. Your bread and butter is real estate. If you have a retirement account, you're going to make the needle move more by investing in what you already understand versus just investing in stocks. And it doesn't have to just be real estate. It could be cryptocurrency or whatever. But, you know, one of the things that we talk about, our kind of motto at directed Ira, since we don't sell investments, is we tell our clients, just invest in what you know, invest in what you understand. It doesn't mean investments aren't risky, but you're going to make yourself more returns by investing in things you're knowledgeable about versus just investing in things that you think that you have to invest in.
And in my opinion, it's a much safer asset. You know, at least real estate, it's real, it's tangible. It's not like a stock you're basically relying on, you know, stocks going up and down. You tend not to know why it's happening. So at least from my perspective, because I'm in the industry, I feel it's really much safer. So it's very cool. So I want to ask you a question, like, in your opinion, and this may vary from person to person or the age groups, like what's the ideal retirement account to have to grow and maximize?
From a tax perspective, that's a great question. So I'll break it down as there's really two types of iras you can have without getting too deep into each individual account. But there's a accounts that grow tax deferred, and then there's accounts that grow tax free. Your tax deferred accounts are like your traditional IRA or your sep IRA, where you put money in as a contribution. You get a tax deduction, but that money grows tax deferred, meaning you'll pay the tax when you take the money back out. Okay, that works. Okay. If you're somebody that's gonna put more money, if your retirement account is made up mostly of the money you put in and not the growth, then that scenario works. Well. I'm of the mindset that I want to put small amounts of contributions in, and when I get to retirement, I want the growth to be the majority of the value in my account. And there's ways to do that through real estate. There's creative real estate strategies, and we could talk a little bit about that, but I want to take a small amount of money and make it larger. So if you're going to take a small amount of money and make it larger, the best thing to do is do that in something like a Roth IRA or a Roth 401K, where the difference is the taxes are the polar opposite. You put money into a Roth, the taxes have already been paid, so you put money in, you don't get a tax deduction.
Gotcha.
But the trade off is, as you invest that Roth IRA, that Roth grows completely tax free. And when you get to retirement at 59 and a half, regardless of the size of your Roth IRA, when you start taking distributions to yourself, the distributions are tax free and penalty free for the rest of your life. So that's power. Because you're off the grid, the IR's cannot touch you. If you have a sizable Roth Ira, no taxes are due on the investments. And it's a great way to preserve wealth, too. If you want to pass more wealth to your heirs, do it in a tax free account. Now, when you look at assets like real estate, for in my mind, again, there's probably people that argue it, but in my mind, when you look at real estate, real estate appreciates over time. We all know that real estate also has cash flow, right? There's different. There's different income streams with real estate. As soon as you start adding that component of the asset to a retirement account, multiple income streams appreciates over time. I don't want to pay taxes on that, so I'd rather do an investment like that in a Roth IRA versus a traditional IRA, where I have to pay taxes on all of that when I comes to retirement. So when people ask me what's the better account? I say it depends, but I would probably say if you're going to take small amounts of money and grow larger, the Roth Ira is definitely going to be your best friend. And if you're starting out at a young age and you've got a lot of time to invest, I would say you definitely want to look seriously at a Roth IRA versus any other account.
Okay. So that, you know, takes kind of ties with. The next question I had is, like, you know, if we take an example of someone in the thirties, someone in their fifties, because, you know, our audience is mixed of age groups, what would it look like? Like, is there a different approach that one younger person than the person in their fifties should take when, you know, wanting to start that, let's say they have a fidelity, right. They want to liquidate that. They want to roll it over into your company. How would you recommend them going about that, if they want to be, become a lender, or they want to become a passive investor and lend that money to an investor like myself?
So I would say, regardless of your age, the thing I think is the most important as to deciding which account you want to self direct, whether it's traditional or Roth, is what's the investment going to be? What's the investment going to be, and what are my returns going to look like? Now, the thing that I like, and I'm a lender, you could look on YouTube, I like to lend my money out of my retirement account, like you, like you're saying. But the thing I like about lending out of my retirement account is I know what I'm supposed to get. Cause I negotiated the terms, it could be ten or 12% or whatever the interest rate is. So when I know going into the investment, I'm gonna make double digit returns, regardless of my age, I'm gonna want to do that investment in a Roth IRA and preferably, maybe even compound my interest doing some, you know, creative short term notes. So I think. I think it surpasses age. I think it just depends on what you're investing in. But as you get older, if you're in your fifties and you don't have a Roth IRA and you're looking to establish yourself to have some tax free wealth in retirement, I think it's even more important that you look at a Roth IRA, because the thing that makes a Roth IRA completely tax free is not only being above the age of 59 and a half by having a Roth for five years. So if you don't have a Roth IRA and you're in your fifties, anybody can do what's called a conversion, a Roth conversion. But you at least want to get that five year clocks ticking. And based on your investments, I mean, that's a way to set yourself up for tax free growth for the rest of your life. So, I mean, I think there's advantages to looking at that Roth IRa, whether in your thirties or your fifties.
Got it. Okay, so who is disqualified from transacting with my IRA, for example, and who can I lend to?
So, that's a good question. So when I said that IR's doesn't care about what we invest in, they do care about who we invest with. Okay, so that's, that's really the main thing with self directed iras, is understanding that your IRA or retirement account can only transact with certain people. It's actually better to talk about it the opposite way. Your IRA is not allowed to transact with certain people. Right. And those, those would be the, the people that you're referring or you're referencing as the disqualified people. So if it's my retirement account, since I'm the IRA owner and I'm the fiduciary to the IRA, my IRA cannot transact with me. All that means is I can't sell my own stuff to my IRA because I represent both side data. It's a conflict of interest, it's not arms link. So the IR's does not want your own IRA buying stuff from you or buying stuff from other family, which would include your spouse, your kids or your grandkids, their spouses, your parents or your grandparents. So it's a specific list of family. Me, spouse, parents, grandparents, kids and grandkids and their spouses. And the reason they disqualify those specific people is when you. It's either the IRA owner or the person that's going to inherit it, most likely when the IRA owner passes. So all that means is my IRA can't buy things from those people, it can't lend money to those people. But my IRA can transact with anybody outside of that list and then it probably fits within the rules.
So cousins, brothers, sisters, that's perfectly fine.
Yeah, most cases, brother or family to the side, brothers, sisters, aunts, uncles, cousins, nieces, nephews. They're not usually the ones that are inheriting your wealth. So in the eyes of the IR's, it is an arm's length transaction. If your IRA wanted to, say, make a loan to your brother or make a loan to your uncle because they're not disqualified.
Got it. Okay. Now I'm sure, you know, you've being that you've done it for so long and you've helped so many people with this situation, is you've seen unfortunate stories, you probably heard about unfortunate situations. So how should someone deal with, like missed payments or foreclosures, like a foreclosure process? What would you advise our listeners when it comes to that?
So if you're, if you're gonna be a lender with your IRA, which is a very common thing for people to do, because there's a couple different reasons people like to lend out of their IRA. It's passive. You don't have to deal with toilets and tenants. But one thing I always remind people, especially when it's self directed, is the first thing you got to make sure is you got to do your due diligence before you do any investment or tell directed Ira, your friendly custodian, to loan to a certain person. You want to make sure that you've done your due diligence on that person, maybe on the property that you're, that you're loaning the money to buy or for that investor to buy. But if that investor misses a payment, this is actually a great thing to talk about because you, as the IRA owner, have to take action or you have to tell your IRA custodian to take action. We don't act as a collection company. So if one of my borrowers from one of my IRA loans misses a payment, the first thing I would do is just take action. And what does take action mean? I'll just send a notice of default. I'll have my attorney send a letter saying, hey, we noticed that you missed the payment. And most oftentimes that payment just came, it was coming in late, and they had, they rectify that and they make a payment. But understanding the foreclosure process, too, is also key. Depending on the state that the house is located on, that you're lending on, that's important for any lender to understand how that foreclosure process works. For instance, I like loaning in Texas because I understand the foreclosure process. The first thing you have to do if your borrower misses a payment is you just send a notice to default. Oftentimes you'll get the payment right back. But I would say the first step in any foreclosure is you just have to take action. And a lot of times that action is just notifying the borrower that you notice, if that you noticed that they missed a payment.
So it's a couple things that one is vetting the borrower and having, you know, some kind of relationship with the bar, knowing what they're getting into and so forth, but then also understanding where they're going to be in investing it. Right. So, you know, the state, like you mentioned, makes a big difference, obviously, from California to Texas. There's, there's a big difference.
New York. Yeah, all that. Big difference. Yeah.
Okay. And can you discuss a little bit about the regulatory considerations or compliance aspects that are crucial for managing your self directed IRA?
Yeah. So I would say the first thing that anybody should know is that you have, like I mentioned earlier, you have to work through a custodian to facilitate the buying and the selling of whatever investment that you have. So a lot of people get confused. They think, oh, you know, directed Ira is just going to give me the money out of my retirement account. I can go buy this rental property where I can do this loan. That's not what we do. That would be a distribution to you. We don't want that. So you have to work through the custodian to make sure that the buy is in the name of the retirement account and the sell is in the name of the retirement account, and that all income and expenses come in and out of the retirement account. And that's something that we do. And the only other real regulatory thing that I tell our clients is that since the assets that we hold are not publicly traded, they're not on Wall street, we do have to get an annual valuation of our assets, which is just something that all of our clients have to do. It's not a big deal. They just tell us what the value of their assets is and we put that on the books and we report that to the IR's. So that's really the only regulatory thing you do. Because here's the cool thing about iras. There's no annual tax return. There's no taxation. None of the income on your IRAS investments hit your 1040. So it's a very, very paper, it's a very, very low paper investment. The only thing that's required is just to give us the valuation at the end of the year. And, but everything else is just flows back to the IRA, completely tax exempt. No tax return, no nothing.
So in other words, like somebody can, can I partner up with my IRA, for example, use some of the retirement account, and then I put a portion in and then, so we're partners and I'm a certain percentage, whatever, the income has to be split up accordingly. Right. So treat it like it's a separate entity, basically, right?
Yeah, exactly. And you put it. That's a great way to put it. You want to treat your iras like it's a separate entity because it is a separate entity. It's a separate. It's got a separate tax id number, even though it's not a taxpayer. When you put money in an IRA, it's the iras. It's no longer your money until you take a distribution. So that is considered a buyer. So can Nate Hare and Nate Hare's Ira partner together and buy rental property? Sure. I just got to make sure I don't commingle the funds. And I make sure whatever. Whatever percentage of ownership is when I go into the deal, I have to make sure I stick to that ownership percentage when I collect income or when I pay expenses. So it can be 50 50. It doesn't have to start 50 50, but if I'm 60 40 partnered with my IRA, I got to make sure I split expenses and income 60 40 at the same time.
Got it. Okay. That's very fair. I mean, sometimes, you know, it could be a little bit hard to kind of digest in the beginning, but, yeah, if you treat it as separate entity, separate person, then should be perfectly fine.
Yeah. And a lot of people, they get. They get this. They think, well, that's so weird. How come I. How come I don't get the income from. From Ira? Well, if you buy stock, do you get the income when you sell a stock? No, it just all the. All the profit goes into your IRA, and you can reinvest the money, which is a good thing, because you're not taxed that way. So the same thing goes for whether you're partnered or your IRA owns property. The IRA must receive its fair share, its share of the income, which is good. Cause it's not taxed. But the IRA's income is not gonna touch your bank account or your back pocket.
Okay, now let's talk about, you know, some success stories I'm sure you've heard of, like, some really good success stories that, you know, our audience would like to, you know, hear about. Can you share a little bit about, you know, a story that you. Somebody that used self directed IRa to invest some of the retirement and then, you know, to have a huge impact on their. On their portfolio?
Yeah. So I have. I have a lot of success stories. I have, you know, one client that. That I'd like to talk about that had a $70,000 traditional IRA, which might sound like a lot to some people, but it wasn't. A lot to him because he was already in his fifties. So for, for him, $70,000 was not enough to retire on. And he had just left his corporate job. He went full time real estate, and. But he knew he needed to make this money grow. So the first thing that he did before he bought anything was he did what we. That conversion we talked about, which is he converted his traditional Ira to a Roth IrA. All that means is he paid taxes on 70 grand to get it over to his Roth Ira. There's no penalty to do that. You just got to pay the taxes. So once he had the taxes paid and he had a self directed Roth Ira, he knew he had to get creative. And this was back in 2012, 2013, he started identifying properties in his area, that there were owners in distressed situations. They had lost their job, they couldn't pay the property taxes, they couldn't pay the mortgage payment, but they were all living in good properties, in good areas, but they couldn't sell the property because they were either upside down on the property. They didn't have any equity. So every other real estate investor was just passing on these deals because they didn't see any way to make money today. Well, he went into those investments looking, well, these investments can pay off very well in 10, 15, 20 years if I can just rent the property out. So even though these properties had no equity in them, what he decided to do is he would go after, he would negotiate with these sellers and say, look, you don't have any equity in the property. You can't sell the property, you're facing foreclosure. What if I just gave you a little bit of money to catch up the mortgage payments, maybe some cash for keys, and then I paid your mortgage payment going forward? I mean, everybody knows it. Today is subject to. Subject to is not a new strategy. It's just talked about so much. Not so much now, but it's been around forever. So my client actually started buying property subject to the existing financing, helping these homeowners out of distressed situations, giving them cash for keys, putting renters in these properties. Long story short, he bought five properties using that $70,000, about ten thousand dollars to fifteen thousand dollars per property, had underlying financing already in place. And all he's done is just put renters in those properties that have been paying the mortgage payments going down, and these properties had just been sitting on the shelf in his Roth Ira. Essentially, what he's been able to do is put five properties in his Roth IRA. Renters have been paying off the mortgage payments meanwhile, these properties appreciating in value, and in a couple years, he'll be above the age of 59 and a half. But all five properties will be paid off and owned free and clear in his Roth IRA, which pays no taxes on the gains. So essentially what he's done, through a creative investment strategy called subject to, acquired five rental properties in his Roth IRA that'll be owned free and clear. And these properties will probably total over $4 million as a current estimated value. So seventy thousand dollars to four million dollars, completely tax free, because it was all done in a self directed Roth Ira.
So because, as you mentioned, he paid the taxes on the 70,000 in the beginning, so he doesn't pay any taxes on what he accumulates because of that initial.
Right. And that's why the Roth Ira, with that type of strategy, so powerful, because he could have done the same investment in his traditional IRA, but he would have got a tax deduction on 70,000 in exchange to pay taxes on 4 million.
Yeah, well, and maybe this is a silly question, but, you know, in case somebody is wondering, like, if they're going to pay the taxes on 70,000, let's say someone doesn't have that extra money on the side. Does it get deducted from the account itself, or do you have to pay out of pocket?
You don't have to pay out of pocket. It just makes a whole lot more sense to pay out of pocket, because what happens when you do a conversion? Let's just use 70,000, for example. Nothing really happens the day you convert. But after the year ends, that's going to be reported to you on a 1099 from your custodian. So you're going to just treat that as income. So there's different times, there's low income years. It might be a better time to convert, but that $70,000 conversion is just going to be treated like additional income to you. So it's not taken out of the conversion. It is better to pay it out of pocket, I would say. So there's a little strategy there that you can play as to when to do a conversion. Sometimes I tell people, do a conversion early in the year, so you have more time to prepare for the taxes instead of doing it, you know, December 31, well, that conversion is still going to hit you in that year, so you're going to have to pay the taxes four months later in April. So you got to make sure you've got enough money to pay those taxes. So early in the year sometimes helps people. Low income years sometimes help people. But I will say the ultimate decision maker for a conversion is, what's the investment going to be?
So for beginners in the realm of self directed iras, what fundamental advice would you offer to help them? You know, start on the right foot basis?
I would say just look into it. You know, educate yourself. Self direction is not for everybody, but I would say if you're entrepreneurial enough, if you're somebody that thinks they can grow their money faster, better, safer than what the financial advisor can do based on your experience level, just look into it. We've got a ton of education at directed Ira. So I would tell anybody, just go to our website, directed ira.com dot. We've got a learn tab. Our learn tab includes webinars, workshops, podcasts. For us, it's important to educate people about how they work, because since we don't sell investments, we at least need to tell people, here's how it works and here's what to expect, because there's a little bit of a learning curve if somebody hasn't done it for the first time. So I would just say, anybody that's interested in it, educate yourself. Go to directed ira.com. don't get scared about the unknown. A lot of times I tell people, do your first investment, even if it's a small one, even if it's a small crypto purchase, at least get familiar with how the process works and maybe graduate toward, you know, buying a rental property, doing a promissory note in your IRA. But education is key. The more you know, the easier it becomes definite.
So it sounds like, you know, if somebody does have, like, a retirement account with fidelity or something and they want to take the first step is reaching out to you guys, and you guys can guide them, hold their hand through the process and set things up for them.
Yeah, you can book a call with one of our IRA executives. We've got a dozen of them, including myself. Talk to them again. Educate yourself, but just know that you have more options when it comes to your retirement assets. And truthfully, most of our clients, they invest in both traditional and alternative assets. They don't just do one or the other. Most of our clients have an IRA at Fidelity, but they also have an IRA at directed IRA because they want the ability to invest in all sorts of things so they can diversify themselves. And there's no limit on how many iras you can have. You can have as many as you want.
So great. I do appreciate that. So if any of you want to get started, reach out to them. We're going to have in the comment section below how you can reach out to Nate and his team. We're also going to drop a discount code below as well, so check that out so you can get a $100 off of setting up your account.
Yeah, we got a special discount for anybody that comes through or watches this. Just use that coupon code, peak 100 and you get $100 off any account that you establish with directed IRA.
Perfect. Well, Nate, thank you so much for the time, man. I appreciate you coming down here and sharing all this information anytime.
It's been great.
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