The Layover
We dive deep into the art of business. Ever wondered how some start-ups shift gears seamlessly or turn roadblocks into launching pads? Join us for the answers. The hosts, Patrick Trevino and Tracy Davis are seasoned entrepreneurs who both jumpstarted their career in the wild world of Aviation. Join them and their featured guests as they share hilarious business & personal missteps while providing actionable insights on embracing change in business. They hold nothing back. Get ready for a blend of embarrassing stories, sarcasm and wit as you connect with the hosts and their powerful guests on building businesses and growing professionally. Whether you're an aspiring entrepreneur, a start-up veteran or climbing your way to the top, the hosts and their guests provide gems that'll make your next business move a confident and informed one.
The Layover
S3E5 CEO vs. COO Energy (and why you need both)
In this episode of The Layover, Tracy (CEO) and Patrick (COO) unpack what it really takes for visionary and operator energy to coexist—and thrive—in a growing business. They dive into the natural push-and-pull between the CEO’s role as the dreamer, strategist, and storyteller, and the COO’s role as the executor, optimizer, and reality-checker.
With humor and honesty, the duo shares their own experiences working side by side, including the highs of having a complementary partnership and the inevitable clashes that come with different leadership lenses. Tracy highlights the CEO’s responsibility to set vision, inspire teams, and rally investors, while Patrick sheds light on the COO’s focus on structure, processes, and getting the details right.
The conversation explores:
- Vision vs. Execution – why companies need both big-picture thinking and operational discipline.
- Conflict & Balance – how healthy tension between CEO and COO energy creates better outcomes.
- Communication Styles – the art of translating vision into actionable steps without losing momentum.
- Lessons Learned – real stories from running TRAX and Mind & Social, and how they keep their partnership strong.
The episode is packed with practical insights, a few laughs, and a behind-the-scenes look at how two very different leadership energies can align to build something lasting.
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