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Episode 122: Powering Communities: Tokenized Energy in the EU Blockchain Sandbox Cohort 3

2Tokens Studio Episode 122

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What happens when renewable energy meets tokenization and then runs straight into regulation? In this episode, the answer unfolds through a deep dive into one of Europe’s most forward-looking experiments: the EU Blockchain Regulatory Sandbox.

Host Olivier Rikken is joined by Edgar Kampers (Co-Founder of Hypha Energy) and Johannes Wirtz (Partner at Bird & Bird) to unpack their hands-on experience participating in Cohort 3 of the Sandbox. Together with organizations like ABN AMRO, EnergyBlocks, Ameland Energy Corporation, and others, they explored a complex but increasingly relevant question: how can tokenization enable renewable energy communities to function more efficiently and stay compliant?

Edgar breaks down how renewable energy communities are reshaping the energy system, from rooftop solar to shared local infrastructure like wind, batteries and EV charging. At the heart of it all is a new model: energy credits - tokenized representations of locally produced energy that can be distributed, traded, or even gifted within a community. The promise? Lower costs, reduced grid congestion and stronger local resilience.

Johannes brings the legal lens, guiding listeners through the regulatory maze surrounding these tokens. Are they crypto-assets under MiCA? Do they qualify as asset-referenced tokens, e-money tokens or something else entirely? And how does the concept of a “limited network” exemption shape what’s possible without triggering heavy regulatory requirements?

From micro-accounting via smart contracts to the practical realities of billing, governance and compliance, this episode connects the dots between technology, regulation and real-world energy use. It also highlights a key takeaway from the sandbox: innovation isn’t being stopped by regulation - but it does require careful design, ongoing dialogue and a willingness to navigate ambiguity.

Participants:
Edgar Kampers: https://www.linkedin.com/in/edgarkampers/
Johannes Wirtz: https://www.linkedin.com/in/johannes-wirtz/
Olivier Rikken: https://www.linkedin.com/in/olivierrikken/

More about Hypha Energy: https://hypha.energy/
More about Bird & Bird: https://www.twobirds.com/en


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