Around the Bases: Pop Culture and Sports Podcast
Around the Bases: Pop Culture and Sports Podcast
Around the Bases 2.5: Beastly Finale, Traitors & Deal or No Deal Drama!
This episode navigates the compelling intersections of spring training excitement and the thrilling season finale of Beast Games. Tim and Charlie delve into key moments from the finale, discussing risks, strategies, and the unexpected turns that unfold in both reality TV and sports.
• Spring training excitement brewing among baseball fans
• Cubs making history playing in Japan
• Dramatic moments from the Beast Games finale
• The impact of coin flips and risk in competition
• Reflections on karma and strategy among contestants
• The purity of sports vs. the reality of strategic deception
• Anticipating the unfolding baseball season and its possibilities
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Welcome to Around the Bases, the pop culture and sports podcast, with your host, charlie Seymour, and I'm Tim Sternberg. Hit it, nick, welcome back, welcome back. We are here in another week at around the bases, the pop culture and sports podcast, charlie, what is up, buddy? How? You doing, I'm doing good, how are you doing? I'm doing great man, I I'm real excited. We got you know. Just a brief touch on spring training has started almost well. It has pictures and catches report. Everyone reported and and the wheels are going and I love it.
Speaker 2:We're getting close we're about 31, 32 days away from a real cubs game. Oh man, gotta wait another week or so for everybody else. But hey, we got a couple early games to yeah you guys are.
Speaker 1:You guys are playing in asia, so in japan, so that'll be interesting. And what time is?
Speaker 2:the first pitch buddy uh 6 10 am eastern time kyle tucker in japan, in tokyo.
Speaker 1:Is it tokyo?
Speaker 2:first home run of the 2025 season. Kyle tucker how about that?
Speaker 1:in japan first homer in Miami.
Speaker 2:Do you remember that a few seasons back?
Speaker 1:I do there already might be like three seasons by now. You know what We've talked about?
Speaker 2:this other rookie big rookie who called it on air too.
Speaker 1:Oh, who did?
Speaker 2:You did Boog Boog.
Speaker 1:Boog comes in out there.
Speaker 2:He said he was feeling a hap homer to start the season and then, like the second pitch of the season, comes with the only game that started in the morning that day, literally the first, the first batter of mlb and hap went deep that that.
Speaker 1:You know, lone depot park, which is the marlins home park, has had some very important first home runs. Julio rodriguez se Mariners hit his first home run at Lone Depot Park also.
Speaker 2:That's a random one, seattle at.
Speaker 1:Miami yeah, because the way the schedule started to kind of shift. I was there. So, yay, yeah, I was there. That's cool. That was pretty cool. Yeah, purposeful, did you plan that? I didn't know he was going to play? I had no idea. Yeah, um, it was one of the rare moments where I actually went to a marlins game that wasn't with the mets so it was just a happenstance that it was his first game there wait, what did you say happen?
Speaker 1:no, yeah, happenstance. Ah, it's happening. Yes, yes, yes, dad, jokes are yours, you know. By the way, you know, on around the bases, the pop culture and sports podcast, we're looking for more listeners and more subscribers. Please tell your friends that we are here and we are every week providing you with awesome entertainment here on this podcast and, uh, recommend us to friends and make sure you're subscribing and hitting that subscribe anyway, because that's what makes things happen, uh you tied it in all together.
Speaker 1:A nice little bow nice little, yeah, a little package there. Um, all right, speaking of bows and tying in bows, and I will do transitions and until the end of time, weirdly, um, but Beast Games wrapped up its season finale and spoiler alert. Spoiler alert if you have not seen the finale of Beast Games, you might want to wait until you see me on video doing this and you can come back safely.
Speaker 2:Yeah, jump ahead about 10 minutes. There you go.
Speaker 1:Yeah, about 10 minutes give or take, if I'm not talking too long, but Beast Games.
Speaker 2:So last we left this show they ended things with a coin, a coin hanger coin hanger. Yes, coin hanger, oh did I just coin a new phrase in coin hanger, I cannot believe you had the change to do that.
Speaker 1:Patent pending, patent pending. There's no change there with you at all. I'm sorry folks, do not run away from this podcast. Please do not stop the recording. Please don't run away. Anyway, charlie, didn't mean it, no, I'm just kidding. No, but you had to. Was a coin, a coin up in the air, and I have to say you know, from a a viewer standpoint, I don't know how you feel about it the way they started this episode was freaking fire like fire.
Speaker 2:The way they're showing the coin in slow motion yeah, they're just kind of going back and past and showing how these contestants came to where they were, and, and they did that throughout the episode he gave them a very good flip for that as well, because you know, sometimes it just kind of like teeter when it hits. He got a hit and then a spin where it was. It could have gone either way for a while. It was good.
Speaker 1:It was. And well, he got by in an earlier game through a coin flip too. For those of you who are listening who don't know what the heck we're talking about, at the last episode, jimmy Mr Beast offered them a deal If one of them would come forward and touch this coin and flip it. If they won that coin flip that he would increase the pot from $5 million to $10 million, but if they landed on the other side they would be eliminated. So the contestant comes up he says you know what I'm going to do. It at the end of the last episode, so we're waiting a week big cojones like I would not do that a
Speaker 2:hundred percent would not have done that um, but one of them flip for sure.
Speaker 1:Just stand and watch, oh yeah and I would definitely be one of those people like, oh no, it would be awesome. Think about the tv moment of you doing this, because, yeah, I would, I don't have nothing to lose. And, as it turns out, that's you know interesting how. That where we'll talk about touch on that in a minute, um or 10, um, but so he, he calls tails right, yeah, he calls tails and, uh, flips like a super bowl just like the super bowl and like the kansas city chiefs.
Speaker 1:That's basically the only thing he wins all right now, but I'm bummed, um but and shout out by the way, real quick, philadelphia, eagles, fly, eagle fly, nice job I mean?
Speaker 2:I mean, if we want to be technical about it, he pretty much mirrored the chiefs. He won the coin toss and did not win the big game.
Speaker 1:But he did get a bonus, like the Chiefs, and we'll talk about that.
Speaker 2:They probably got a bonus for reaching the Super Bowl, so they'll sleep. They've won twice already.
Speaker 1:I think Patrick Mahomes will be perfectly fine. He's probably on a beach somewhere with his wife, so anyway, he calls tails and it lands on tails. Mr collapses, he's upset, he's like oh my god, you know, it's all fun, I lost five million more dollars I mean to mr beast. That's nothing probably amazon's money, that's right, exactly, jeff bezos has to worry about that, uh, and I don't care um so I mentioned.
Speaker 2:They were way over budget. We'll never be carried on Amazon.
Speaker 1:This podcast will never be on Amazon. That's good. So yeah, he mentioned they were over budget, and I mean later on the episode he mentions a given away over 200 million dollars or something like that or something like that, some crazy number or 20 million, I don't know, I didn't get that.
Speaker 2:Don't, don't, don't quote me on that, yeah, 11, at the end it's 100 and 180 million between friends.
Speaker 1:Um so, um, yeah. So he, he's the big hero champion blah blah blah wins the coin flip. The pot is now at 10 million dollars. He doesn't necessarily win the 10 million, it's whoever wins at the end wins the $10 million. That's an important note. And then so they each have to decide to stand on these platforms in the order that they were chosen to come down from the wall in the last episode. So they kind of they do that, and the object of this game. This is a game where they're standing on trap doors and they have to throw the red ball in a tube of their opponents somewhere, and if they get the ball in the tube, that person drops, simple and only two getting eliminated right, so we're going to six to four, and so they go through the list and you want to kind of talk about the antics that go on a little bit yeah, there's.
Speaker 2:There's definitely a lot of gamesmanship, because this is probably the first thing where it's both an advantage and a disadvantage to be early up. Because advantage, if you make one right away, you're increase your chances to advance yourself. But if you miss your shot which you're going to miss a lot of them, because it was a very difficult, it's like a carnival game, almost very hard. Miss your shot, whoever you shot it at is going to be mad at you, and then they're going to want to shoot it at yours. So there's a lot of negotiating going on you don't shoot at me, I don't shoot at you, and then a lot of hey, don't shoot at me, I won't shoot at you, and then they don't shoot at me, I won't shoot at you, and then they don't shoot at you, but then you still shoot at them.
Speaker 2:That happened a couple of times.
Speaker 1:That's not good.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that was wild. And then let's just say karma came around.
Speaker 1:A little bullying.
Speaker 2:Yeah, bullying was happening on this one girl Bullying was happening and karma worked out in the end, because you wanted to root for her originally, but she was the one who decided not to.
Speaker 1:I think it was Yesenia.
Speaker 2:Yeah, exactly, Yesenia agreed to the deal, so she didn't shoot at what was her name? Emily Maybe? And then she missed, and then Emily shot at her anyways. So then what happens? Yesenia eliminates Emily as the last elimination of that round to get to four.
Speaker 1:And you know what I was like this, I, you know, I believe in that karma kind of thing happening, you know, and I mean, listen, and you and I have talked about this. They've all done questionable things throughout the whole series. And you know what, when you sign up for a reality show, you kind of have to put that aside. I mean, if I ever have the great opportunity to get on one, yeah, there's probably going to be some things that I do that maybe I would not do in normal real life, and it's a game.
Speaker 2:As long as you don't pull a JC, you'll be okay. Nasty right, yeah, that guy it's it's as long as you don't pull a jc, you'll be okay nasty, right, yeah, yeah, jc.
Speaker 1:By the way, folks, if you don't remember, in the last two episodes ago took a lot of money away from a lot of people and you know what I could see here?
Speaker 2:I'm gonna put this out into the universe just in case, because it's the same amazon universe. I could see jc going on goat or house of villains probably house of villains, house of villains make. He's a villain for what he is, but that's an e show and amazon has the goat, which is also supposed to be but isn't that supposed to be like kind of greatest? Of all time but yeah, but they're not like the best people they have on that one always, I know so I think it's supposed to be kind of a joke into that.
Speaker 1:So it's meant to be, like the. You know how you have the devil, you know the whole devil and the angel shoulder thing. Well it's, it's basically the devil is house of villains and the angel is goat. That's kind of the way I think they view that show. Um, not necessary, and I agree with you and I I think there were some contestants on the goat that easily could have went to house of villains and yeah, you know, I mean, I, I, I think, but I think you're right, I think greatest of all times is not saying the best of all times, it's the greatest. So, um, so what? So that game goes and then the next game that happens is they have to memorize the pattern.
Speaker 2:Oh, yes, oh. And the catch is if you're the first one across, you pick the person that goes with you to the final two, or if someone gets eliminated, then it moves on to three people in a new game.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so Yesenia decided to move her hand and memorize the pattern.
Speaker 2:She decides. You know what. None of them are going to take me, so my best bet is to do it myself, and she does a very good job at memorizing the pattern.
Speaker 1:She does.
Speaker 2:But one little caveat Perfectly, she does but one little caveat perfectly, but. But she did not start the correct puzzle in the right row, not only did she not do it. But the guy who finally tried to help her in the last game after everybody was bullying her again gives her the right info. He says hey, you're starting in the wrong row, it's one over to your right she doesn't. She didn't believe him didn't believe him, boom she's eliminated, oh my god.
Speaker 2:And then that right there, that moment we'll just say maybe bias karma for later.
Speaker 1:We'll bookmark it charlie, you remember, though, right that, um, if they still had to do the pattern and she would have gotten it right she did she?
Speaker 2:yep. That's exactly. That's why I said she did it perfect, except she started in the wrong row because she nailed it oh my god like in that scenario, it would have been her and then that same guy as final two anyways, and it would have been them doing the last game and they would have not done the game at three dude.
Speaker 1:It would have killed me to get that far in this game and not win a single dime. Like I mean they all won money, I think. I think at this point all of them got money from the, the whole, that whole thing he didn't confirm that at the end Did you keep watching?
Speaker 2:He did say yeah 2,000 each, they got.
Speaker 1:Yeah, every person who played Beast Games. And there's some question on.
Speaker 2:Yeah, if we take for face value what we've heard, there may have been 2,000 players and they may have just started airing it at 1,000. I don't know for sure, but I have seen that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, unconfirmed. So apparently, and this is unconfirmed allegedly, apparently. Don't sue us, please. Thank you. Um, apparently there was, and I and I've seen video there was an event at allegiance stadium that happened.
Speaker 2:That was not televised and that would make more sense too, for erica are from, we are family erica. If she went out in the 2000 to 1000 round, maybe that's why we never saw her in the 1000 that aired, which is why she got to play the mini game I know for a fact she went to toronto, so I think she did go to the city okay, so we just didn't see her get fall through the thing in the first game right, I think she was.
Speaker 1:I think erica and I'll have to some at some point talked with her. I think she was eliminated on that challenge where you had to catch the ball in the tower.
Speaker 2:I think so. She made it to the 500 I think so.
Speaker 1:I think so, but okay, don't quote me on it which would make sense on why mr beast would have brought her to that beast video and it would make sense why we may have not seen her.
Speaker 2:Because those were chaos or just a million people in all over the place, so exactly the one. She was on the side where the ball didn't go near her, or something very, very I think that's what happened, but we'll I mean erica, by the way for our audience.
Speaker 1:erica was on, we are with us, and she was also on beast games. Anise was also on beast games. Anise put out a video this week that said that there were 2000 contestants in which you know I mean it does match up a little bit with what I've seen Like. For example, I have seen pictures at allegiance stadium in Las Vegas of beast game stuff.
Speaker 2:October as well. Right, wasn't he the third yeah?
Speaker 1:October was also on Beast Games, and so my understanding allegedly is there were 2,000 contestants that they whittled down at Allegiant Stadium to 1,000, and then they started rolling tape. That's my understanding, and so that event in Vegas was basically the almost I would take it the final round of casting I don't know how else to kind of put it and then the remaining thousand did this, I guess at a soundstage local where they did the drop thing, and then the city how far do you think it dropped?
Speaker 1:Probably about 10 feet, and there was a mat mat as my guess. Um, there was a Russian roulette game years ago on GSN I don't know if you've ever seen it where they drop people through the floor too, and I think it's kind of the same thing. Um, but the the the beast game city, for example, took place in Toronto, and I think subsequently that's kind of where a lot of that stuff happened. Um, until they went to the Island and you know they did the island thing. Um, so I will say this um, so what were you even talking about?
Speaker 2:um, these games we were done, going from four to three yeah, thank you, thank you.
Speaker 1:So the, the, she, she eliminates herself. And then we have um three, and in this one it's a popularity contest, and one of them is ranked by the top 50 players, the lowest.
Speaker 2:It's similar to what they did at the end of the Island game.
Speaker 1:Yes, and if they're that person and they don't self-eliminate and we'll tell you how you self-eliminate in a minute then they get eliminated. So Mr Beast rolls out another Whoever received the most votes in the envelope was going eliminate and we'll tell you how you self eliminate in a minute. Then they get eliminated.
Speaker 1:So mr beast rolls out and received the most votes in the envelope was going home exactly, and mr beast rolled out a million dollars onto the set and said here's my last bribe in the show um, million dollars, take it, and if your name is not in that envelope then, um, I mean, if your name is not in that envelope, then if your name is in that envelope you'll get eliminated. So, michael, I believe.
Speaker 2:Yeah, whoever the one who flipped the coin.
Speaker 1:Yeah, coin flipper guy. I thought his name was Gage, gage, gage, see, this is. It's terrible that we don't know these people's names. Gage, yeah, decides he's going to take the million dollars. And let me let me put this in a tim perspective, because it's always about me um, if I was in that position, charlie, I would, one million percent, take the million dollars. I'll tell you why, even if I wasn't sure my name would be in that envelope. When you get to the final two, you have a 50 50 chance of winning 10 million. Final two you have a 50 50 chance of winning 10 million dollars, but you have a 50 50 chance of not getting anything.
Speaker 2:And a million dollars is perfectly fine for me in my life, like, really honestly, I, I think, I do think, though, in the situation of the other gentleman, my, I think michael is his name, maybe yeah, that was Michael right he and I was so confident he wasn't having the most votes in there, as was he. He thought at that point it's a 50-50 shot at 10 million. That was a good call for him personally, but the other two I think that was more of a debate.
Speaker 1:I seriously thought Gage was going to be the lowest vote, honestly, because in the edit other than the coin toss, he was pretty non-significant in my opinion.
Speaker 2:The only reason I didn't think he would be, I slightly leaned her was because they had an alliance of like six or seven people, and that was I mean, it's a small group of 50 voters, alliance of like six or seven people, and that was, if you I mean it's a small group of 50 voters that six or seven alone is 12 14 percent of the voting that's true.
Speaker 1:That's so you can easily count on you with the math and the two of them were together.
Speaker 2:So if you think about it all that whole group, even if the two of them don't vote, that's at least four or five votes for her as a head start. So I know she had a few locks, for sure, but she also had a lot of people didn't like her either.
Speaker 1:Yeah, which is crazy because, honestly, I mean, she did do some things that were honorable.
Speaker 2:I'll say, yeah, she definitely did.
Speaker 1:She gave up the chance of getting a million dollars just to save her team.
Speaker 2:Generally speaking, the three that made it to the end.
Speaker 1:Her honorable.
Speaker 2:Ever since the last 25 or 50 were left. Those three were, you would have said. I could have said any one of those three, I would have been happy with a win or a bunch of other people that I would have been upset with.
Speaker 2:So I can't really complain too much. And I do think that he the honorable move. When they were down to four he tried to save her again when everybody was bullying her. So that kind of karma. That's where I was saying. It kind of ended up working out where, hey, he was honest about it and instead of him beating her at the end he ends up beating someone else.
Speaker 1:So I will say this though, charlie the editing was not good in hiding who the winner was yeah, I kind of had a feeling. When they started showing the packages of the family and the pictures, I was like, oh, because when they showed her, they showed one picture of her and her husband, and that was because when they showed her, they showed one picture of her and her husband and that was it. When they showed him, it was like a whole package of video. This and saving the son and the whole thing.
Speaker 2:Although they did show that they did do that In fairness. They did do that because it was his turn to guess first.
Speaker 1:Right. But you know, I mean, if you compare it Right, that's true.
Speaker 2:So maybe if he got it, wrong, then maybe she would have gotten at it until they've gone back and forth because he can't that. He did make a point to say in their practice runs with the like workers. He said on average it was around five or six, which means they did it a number of times. So for him to guess it right on the very first time I think they weren't expecting that whatsoever.
Speaker 1:I wasn't either. So, folks, just so you know what this is.
Speaker 2:Yeah, let's explain the game.
Speaker 1:Final game was 10 briefcases around a circle and nine of the briefcases had an X and one of the briefcases had a check for $10 million. And so the object was he tossed a coin and he won the coin toss and he got to go first, which means he put on a blindfold and the other contestant had to take the case for $1 million and shuffle it around so that he wouldn't guess which case that was. And so she does this. There's some case, there's three cases on the middle, and she kind of messes it up a little bit and does whatever she does. And case uh, so she's oh, you remove your blindfold.
Speaker 1:And he, very intelligent, he says you know, I know she has five kids and five is going to be too an important number for her, so she's not going to pick that number. Um, but what's? The next number adjacent is six. So he ruminates between five and six, going back and forth, and then he says you know what? I think it's six. And honestly, when he said that, I was like no, it's not going to be six, I bet you it's going to be five or it's going to be whatever.
Speaker 2:You can see her gulp when he picked it.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Visibly.
Speaker 1:Visibly like ugh. And so he opened six and on the very one in 10 shot on the very first time, and one in 10 are not bad odds.
Speaker 2:I mean very first time, and one in ten are not bad odds.
Speaker 1:I mean, you're the numbers guy, I'm gonna say why it was a much better chance than one in ten.
Speaker 2:Yeah, go ahead, because go ahead psychology two, two, two huge decisions right away is what I noticed. So, to start, all ten were in its own slots in a basically like a carousel that swings around. She moved, she could arrange them however she wanted. She moved three of them into the middle, okay.
Speaker 1:So she took them out of.
Speaker 2:Right away. Psychologically, your first thought is she's doing that to mess with me. Right, so right away. I'm eliminating those three cases off the bat immediately.
Speaker 1:So we're down to 1-7.
Speaker 2:1-7. Now we're up to 14.3. You've gone from 10% to 14.3. The other thing I'm going to do next is I'm going to eliminate 1, 2, and 3, because she's not putting it right in front of him. She's going to make him at least move it. It would be really risky to put it right in front of him because that's where would you risk it the very first round? Hell to the no so that's where I think, if it were me, that's smart as shit.
Speaker 2:I would have put it in first left or first right, not the dead center one. I would have put it right next to them because they'd never expect it. But you don't want to put it there in case they go. Okay, I'm not even going to touch it, because you put it there and you want me to move it.
Speaker 2:So that's the one I wouldn't have done so for those reasons I would have then eliminated the first three, because she put them on the other side. So to me he had a pretty much down to like three or four cases he felt pretty good about, and that's where he roped in the number five and that's where I think he probably went into it, thinking he had probably a 25 or 33 percent chance to nail it I love that strategy, dude, like dang, you really thought about that, like I do.
Speaker 1:That's a. That's freaking. I mean, if they don't, some reality show doesn't get you on that's. That's that like I would have an alliance with you. That's some good thinking, like I. Oh, that's high level correct. That's high level crap.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's where I think she she misplayed it a little bit good psychological, even if she wouldn't have moved them and just kept them in all 10 spots and put it right I think at that point at least, it's a one in six, one in seven random guess, she's got much better chance of surviving because you can only really eliminate the ones right in front in that if she were to have all 10. But the other option would have been if you wanted to risk it. The only thing is is you know how she put the three in the top, that as a triangle. If you do put one of those as a 10 million, trying to reverse psychology into oh, they'll think this is it at that moment now you're a one in three chance of them nailing it. So do you really want to put your go home risk at one in three? That's probably where I put that down. That'd be like option c or d, but I so she.
Speaker 2:She shot herself in a foot. 10 normally around. Yeah, because then there's 10 choices. That's for.
Speaker 1:Dude, I would have done the same thing. I would have left it exactly how it is and as quietly, mind you, as I could, yeah, and turned it around several times.
Speaker 2:I would have closed my eyes. I wouldn't have wanted to know where it was. They don't tip your hand when they you'll which number.
Speaker 1:I don't know where it is. And to that point, jimmy, mr Beast had his crew turn around. He turned around so they wouldn't know when they wouldn't tip her off, uh, him off, um, yeah, oof. But so he he opens the first, mr Beeson, is a $10 million check.
Speaker 2:It was a good finish to a good show, I thought.
Speaker 1:It was, and kudos to Mr Beeson and his crew on a great show. I'll audition for it next season. I mean, why not? Mind you? I probably would take the first offer and go.
Speaker 2:You know, I'm the cheapo like that Next year would that be lower than $19,000, though More people would take it probably after watching, probably that would be you never know, you never know that would be my three thousand dollar trivial great shows oh, but don't boom how about another traders oh holy crap, it's dude. It's so fun to watch.
Speaker 1:It's really fun, dude, dude it is the oh my God, it's like the appointment TV for me right now. That Survivor hasn't come back yet. It is so good.
Speaker 2:And when Survivor does come back, there'll still be a couple episodes of Traitors so it'll be like a happy which is going to be beautiful. Survivor Wednesday Traitors Thursday.
Speaker 1:Which is going to be beautiful. Yeah, so last we left Traitors there be beautiful.
Speaker 2:Yeah, um. So last we left traders um there was a murder in person to take place, but they they, as usual, cliffhung it and I called it right.
Speaker 1:I said that what would happen is either they would turn around and see alan or they're going to turn around and see the, the murderers, and we knew it wasn't going to be tom, because they oversold his reaction, which we called, and then with no carolyn, look we're doing.
Speaker 2:We're doing math and stats again, where we already narrowed it down to four people, so we had a 25 chance of nailing it oh, chris shell, chris shell, chris shell, chris shell, chris shell goes bye-bye, bye-bye, ch Bye, chris shell, thomas Happy. I'm sure you would have done. No no, would you have taken?
Speaker 1:out Dylan A hundred percent. Dylan One hundred percent, I think Dylan and I think Tom. I mean Tom is wacky, but I think they're strong players.
Speaker 2:I would I would have definitely taken. After tonight's episode episode. They needed time to keep upping the prize pool money the only one with any music talent I can't even I'm not even gonna go there. You won't subject the listener to either of us singing mary had a little, all right.
Speaker 1:Anyway, that's the regular way, but they go four for four on the challenge.
Speaker 2:Another 20 000 in the pot.
Speaker 1:It's getting up there so the challenge was folks, and we're fast forwarding a little bit but the challenge basically was one group went in the forest, one group uh stayed at the mansion, at the castle and uh, the group at in the forest had to listen to these nursery rhymes backwards and it was similar to a challenge they did last season and also similar to a challenge on big brother claim to fame claim to fame.
Speaker 2:Remember the claim to fame again.
Speaker 1:Yeah, claim to fame had a similar type of challenge where they had a like play telephone and call back in, and and so they're. They're basically singing these nursery rhymes backwards and I, I, I'm charlie, texts me. He says, let me know when you get to the singing part. I was already there as soon as you take me. I was like, oh my god, I was dead. I was dead. I was laughing my ass off, like because my, my mother literally says what the hell are you watching?
Speaker 2:he was making animal sounds.
Speaker 1:It sounded like he sounded like like chewbacca, chewbacca like from star wars so they won. I mean tom sandoval, who knew right. I mean he said he, he, and then he in the confessional. He's like I want to tout my singing prowess. I'm like what?
Speaker 2:That's what we'll call it.
Speaker 1:I was like, okay, whatever you say, buddy, but yeah, they do put money in the pot and so there's a lot of talk during the banishment.
Speaker 1:We'll go to the banishment, right? Yeah, there's a lot of chatter that continues a little bit from last week with danielle and britney and the fact that before he left, derrick, named britney, is a possible traitor with boston rob, but that kind of is. I will say that was a um, that was just a thing, because that wasn't really part of the conversation too much. The real conversation was getting Sierra um because of the of the um coffin and it was smarter the traders to going back to the coffin murder, uh, not to put one of them in the coffin because, as it turned out, when they were talking, they said one of them the coffin. Because, as it turned out when they were talking, they said one of them they're going to suspect is one of us and if that only person is left then they're going to kind of target them and sure enough yeah the era was that target, and so they, they all, pile on unanimously, except for sierra, who voted for britney on sierra, and sierra is banished.
Speaker 1:And of course, sierra reveals that she's a faithful and they're like oh, we messed that up again. Yes, you did um and danielle and caroline live, caroline living to see another day and then they go up into the turret. To murder. But they get interrupted on the door and who comes in? Alan? And Alan says you have a choice.
Speaker 2:We called this last week.
Speaker 1:We did, we said that there was.
Speaker 2:If they survive through it, that this would be the option. Finally, this would be the episode where they would do it.
Speaker 1:This would be a recruitment. And, sure enough, that's exactly what's happening. So then they have a choice they can either murder like they usually do, or they can recruit somebody, and so there is an understanding now that the last traitor has to be based on talking to castle a female, and so now they're kind of going back and forth.
Speaker 2:One or two. They're unsure about that.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 2:But at least one.
Speaker 1:At least one, and who are we going to bring on? And at first Carolyn's like no, I don't want to bring on anybody else, I just want to kind of continue. And she's not the biggest strategic thinker. I will say that Carolyn Danielle is a more strategic thinker. So basically, danielle's telling her.
Speaker 2:It seemed like it was a lose-lose proposition for them, because if they decide to murder, they almost have to murder a guy because they need the numbers. If they murder a girl to try to throw them off the scent, all they're doing is hurting their own numbers, and then the guys still think it's a girl trader anyways. So basically they're going to lose two girls back to back and then they're going to be next to the chopping block. So it was kind of a tough spot to be in from the start.
Speaker 1:Exactly, and so my thought process. You know. At first Danielle was trying to push Brittany, and if I'm Carolyn, no way I agree with her.
Speaker 2:There's no way.
Speaker 1:I would bring Brittany on. What are you crazy? Cause, then it's going to be two against one and I mean I absolutely I'm not the biggest fan of Carolyn, but I absolutely agree with her there. Yeah, no, Um so.
Speaker 2:I. He ruled out Dolores cause it said she would never do it, She'd be bad at it. So that only left them with two choices I think gabby's gonna be recruited.
Speaker 1:I really do it's gotta be gabby has to be um, and I think she'll absolutely do it and she'll love doing it too. Um, yeah, yeah. So I think that's what's gonna happen?
Speaker 2:do they throw gabby to the wolves or do they try their best to trick everybody?
Speaker 1:here's the thing, though. Let me and this is going back a couple of seasons to, or last season, even when that happens, the I'll say this Gabby has been a faithful for so long that she hasn't acted suspiciously at all. So if they try to do that to her, though, then she literally can turn the tables on them, and they would believe her more than they would believe them, because they already have suspicion on them, and this would be more fire that is in Danielle and Carolyn's direction. So I think, if they do try to turn on her I think Danielle, because I don't think anybody really suspects Carolyn I think Danielle is.
Speaker 1:I think Danielle's time is limited. I do not see her getting to the end, as much as I would love her to. I don't see it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's going to be tough. It's going to be tough.
Speaker 1:What are you looking up?
Speaker 2:I'm sorry.
Speaker 1:Are you looking up something?
Speaker 2:No, I wasn't.
Speaker 1:Oh, I thought you were looking up data. I was like, oh, you got data. No data this time. But I think you know, I think Carolyn, I think Carolyn is going to get to the end. I think it's going to be hard for Danielle to get to the end.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's going to be hard for Danielle to get to the end. Yeah, they're, both might be in trouble, which could be a nice sneak for Gav. If they were true, gabby could be a chance for her to win the game.
Speaker 1:Yep. So we'll see. We'll see. That is beast games and reminisce. We must, we must talk about this. We must because our friend is on this show, our former cast member of we Are Family. I'm pointing to the poster of we Are Family Phillip D-Block represents. Phillip is on DL&OD Island, as we've talked about. He's pretty much heavily featured in this episode, would agree definitely a lot of, a lot of airtime a lot of airtime and um, we'll go back to last week.
Speaker 1:You know. He had a poignant moment where he talked about being bullied as a kid and I I was like totally on board with that and of course poverty has to be poverty and say, well, he's not really. What did she say?
Speaker 1:not a good game player, or something like that not a strategic thinker not a strategic thinker something like that yeah so when that aired last week, I was like, okay, this is setting up for something, there's going to be some kind of payoff. And we wait a week and sure enough, this episode. There's a challenge where they have to grab these rings. And we wait a week and sure enough, this episode. There is a challenge where they have to grab these rings. Gesundheit, they have to grab these rings and the idea is there's three levels of rings right, and so there's a high value, medium and at risk.
Speaker 1:And so if you grab a high, high risk ring for somebody else and and you get it, then they can get the larger cases.
Speaker 2:Yeah, with a high value to high value case, they're safe. Low value case are at risk.
Speaker 1:So Phillip goes and, and and, pulls a ring for Letty. Letty, Thank you. Um, and so Letty's like oh, I'm going to have to pill for Philip, which didn't make several of the contestants too happy, and that's where this starts. So it ends up David pulls a ring for Philip and Philip is safe, and so they go through this process and they end up with a bottom six, I think, or bottom four, I think four, okay, bottom four, and um, the uh letty has to decide once again who is going to face the banker.
Speaker 1:Um, and she picks. Oh, who does she pick? Do you remember?
Speaker 2:ck, I think ck, yeah, ck.
Speaker 1:Who's the pot stirrer? That's right, yeah, um, ck is picked to face the banker and they're going through the round of banker. And I'm gonna straight up tell you guys you don't have to worry about spoiler alert here, folks, because there's none to spoil mbc, mb. I'm talking to you, stop this nonsense. Do not do cliffhangers If you are doing every week with elimination.
Speaker 2:We need one result a week.
Speaker 1:Yeah, what is this nonsense?
Speaker 2:You're not that Listen you're not big enough for that Two elimination week and then yeah.
Speaker 1:Oh God, it pissed me off so much that they did that they let.
Speaker 2:I think we've had this great many times, and that's why we can continue to not phenomenon the other ones because of some of those reasons.
Speaker 1:But yeah, and there was a show that was on usa that we phenomena was it for them? Anonymous, anonymous, did the same thing and it upset me. Um. So wait, does that mean we're gonna get two eliminations next week because they didn't show this week's? I don't know right or are we now?
Speaker 2:they've done that sometime and sometimes it just cliffhanging again to the next week so they cliffhanged so throughout throughout the bankers round.
Speaker 1:Poverty is is doing this to our buddy philip, and I'm poking myself, basically trying to poke in the bear yeah.
Speaker 1:And so philip's like I'm fine, I'm fine, and he's trying to compose himself as he's trying to play a real good kind of even keel game, which I respect. And um c cake. And by the way, why would philip be nervous? Because quite he's not up for elimination. So what does that matter, he's safe. Ck says at the end. She goes Philip, why are you so quiet? And what's going on? Is it because David saved you when you sent his buddy home? And Philip goes listen, and I'm not. I'm going to paraphrase this, I'm going to be as good as I can. He goes you're not going to go low and think I'm going to go high, I'm going to go underground, so much so that he talks about Harriet Tubman and getting getting that, basically, harriet Tubman would have to tell her to run and he it's a.
Speaker 1:If you have a chance to see the clip, it's, it's, it's really funny. It's really funny. I'm like I was like shouting yeah, he fell up. I was like, yeah, you go. Man, it was really good, it was a really good reality TV moment. I'm glad he had a moment. But um, and they, they end it, they. We don't even find out the next round to bang it, except I'm like and I I don't know about you, charlie when I ended it I was like wait, what just happened? Like I didn't even look at the time to see where we were. I was like wait, what just happened?
Speaker 2:see because of I don't know how we're, how you watch it, but that's one of the dvr shows, so it always has like a yellow line when it's gonna come back from commercial, like why am I seeing a yellow line? And I, when we got there and I'm like there's only four minutes left of this episode, there's no way it's gonna resolve. What the heck?
Speaker 2:and I knew that the the moment was coming from what you had mentioned, so I'm like there's no way this is gonna end well I'm so mad, I was so pissed, dude, I was so incensed and annoyed, etc.
Speaker 1:Etc. Etc. Um, oh, so, all right, that's Deal or no Deal. Island, to be continued, obviously. What else did we have to talk about?
Speaker 2:Well, if you want to jam in the floor for third base, we could briefly mention it did open. There have been two episodes out so far. I have only seen about one and two thirds of them.
Speaker 1:We've been asked by our casting, our um casting that same email as well casting company that cast us for we are family sent us and apparently the other seasons of the floor because I talked to some of my floor friends um an email asking to promote it. So here we go, we're going to promote it on this podcast. Uh, if you're not watching season three of the floor, you really want to. It's really a great show. There's a new twist happening next week apparently, so this week's episode of the floor we have the great um oh hallerhan from clerks, and clerks too, and um brian oh halleroran playing on the floor. His category was conveniently enough Convenient store items.
Speaker 1:Which you know, I would have thought it would be Kevin Smith movies, but you know it's not enough, I guess.
Speaker 2:I didn't realize this until tonight's episode. I didn't see it in the first one, but two people from Bachelor in Paradise, bachelor Nation, are on it.
Speaker 1:Yes, no, she can't.
Speaker 2:And it was a Harlem Globetrotter too yeah there you go it should be an interesting season he won his duel that was a fun one. I crushed that category me too.
Speaker 1:you know what category I didn't crush in the first episode Mountains, which, one Mountains, mountains.
Speaker 2:Okay, yeah, that was.
Speaker 1:Oh, that was terrible, you know which?
Speaker 2:one we both did not do well on either. It was female country musicians. I didn't know, what they looked like.
Speaker 1:I think I got like three I got Carrie Underwoodwood, I got reba mcintyre and dolly parton, I think, and there was another one early, that you should have got too yeah, I'm sure I did.
Speaker 2:Shania twain was another yeah, shania twain, leanne rhymes. Was there, leanne?
Speaker 1:rhymes um, yeah, carrie underwood, I I don't know like that. The mountains was really bad for me and geography in general is, as you know, from my decisions on trivial pursuit, um, of eliminating that category in that round. Um, I'm not good with that. But and, by the way, you know, interesting and interestingly enough, because I always have to make it about me the producers of the floor are the same producers that produce trivial pursuit. So wow, there you go Different networks.
Speaker 1:Different network but, yes, same people that are in charge. A lot of them, not all of them, but a lot of them. So yeah, watch the Floor. The Floor is on Fox Wednesday nights at 9 pm. Check it out, and we will bill our casting company for this promo. I'm kidding, kidding, it's a joke, it's a joke. So we talked baseball a bit. We're getting ready for pitchers and catchers. We have a lot of excitement happening in Arizona and Florida. I am going to my first spring training game next, a week from Sunday, which I'm real excited about. I'm seeing the New York Mets face the Miami Marlins triple A team.
Speaker 2:Single digit days away. Can you believe it?
Speaker 1:I'm so excited. I'm so excited. Um, I love it and I will try to do some video to play on this podcast of that and we'll do a a man in the street, man in the field, kind of thing going on.
Speaker 2:Yeah, get some interviews while you're out there.
Speaker 1:We need to get like a microphone that has, like, our logo on it, Put our logo on this mic and just kind of like talk to people and think that I'm official. Can you imagine, oh my God, oh my God, and real quick. You know we'd be remiss if we didn't say that again. I mentioned it earlier, but the Philadelphia Eagles Fly, Eagles, Fly. Beat the Kansas City, not just beat, trounced the Kansas City Chiefs.
Speaker 2:They dog walked them.
Speaker 1:I was like, when we got to like, when we because I was rooting for the Eagles when we got to like over 20 points, I was, oh my god, like this is awesome um like it was so bad.
Speaker 2:That's no. No, it was so bad that patrick mahomes threw a touchdown for the other team after no, no, no, no, that's not, oh, okay but he threw a touchdown pass an actual touchdown after nick sirianni had already been dumped with gatorade.
Speaker 1:That's how over the game was I think he was, I think nick sirianni was dumped with gatorade like with two or three minutes left on a clock even. Yeah, like they were like oh, we won that's.
Speaker 2:That's when you know it's bad.
Speaker 1:I was was like. That's rare. That doesn't happen often. What is happening there Not?
Speaker 2:only did they do that, but Kansas City scored, got an onside kick, scored again and still lost by 20 points. I mean, they got humiliated. That was just.
Speaker 1:Yeah, imagine Kansas.
Speaker 2:City in that game. Come on Amateur hour.
Speaker 1:Eagles all day. Well, you know, and I'm sure you picked the eagles um 100 percent um.
Speaker 2:Congratulations, nick, testa and franklin.
Speaker 1:Yes and and melanie melanie also yes, he was very happy that her eagles won, that's amazing.
Speaker 2:Any other philly, any other philly, my.
Speaker 1:My buddy, AJ AJ congrats.
Speaker 2:Congratulations, AJ. Shout them all out.
Speaker 1:I told AJ, don't get used to it.
Speaker 2:How about some celebrity shout-outs? We can thank Rob McElhenney and Caitlin.
Speaker 1:Olsen yeah, that's right we can shout out Bradley Cooper. Anne.
Speaker 2:Hathaway, Quinta Brunson.
Speaker 1:All the Phillies, all the Phillies.
Speaker 2:All the Phillies.
Speaker 1:Philadelphia. So, yeah, I just want to make a public service announcement with that, though, charlie, real important for this guy. Don't climb any poles, that, and also Don't my cat's playing with something. Don't get used to that, philadelphia, because baseball's happening now and the mets are going to trounce you that's all.
Speaker 2:That's all I will say, though, phillies, I got a decent squad, they got a decent squad.
Speaker 1:Wait, you're gonna say what, what happened?
Speaker 2:I mean it's. Is it not factual, I guess?
Speaker 1:how's the cardinals they're?
Speaker 2:pretty decent. I, I think the mets are better, but they're pretty decent, that's all. Okay, okayets are better, but they're pretty decent, that's all.
Speaker 1:Okay, okay, wow, you're going to get the baby diapers going again.
Speaker 2:Well, really, let's just I mean, how many? You got the Mets as a playoff team. Right, we can do this real quick. You got the Mets as a playoff team. How many are in your NL Seven? Make it? Are you in your NL Seven? Make it? Oh yeah, I mean our division. Is Philly in yes or no 100%? Okay, so then they're a decent team. You just said 100%.
Speaker 1:They are. I don't want to admit that. What are you doing?
Speaker 2:I mean I'm wearing a Jackie Robinson shirt. I'm just trying to get a little perspective here.
Speaker 1:Is it perspective or you're just trying to stir the pot?
Speaker 2:Let's see we got Philly, we got New York, we got Atlanta, we obviously got the Dodgers.
Speaker 1:You can forget the other two teams in the East. Forget the Nationals and forget the Marlins.
Speaker 2:I'm throwing the Dodgers in there, and you know what? I'm throwing the Cubs in there. I'm throwing the Cubs in there. That leaves two more spots for the NL.
Speaker 1:Did you get the Padres?
Speaker 2:We'll put the Padres as one of the possibilities.
Speaker 1:Brewers.
Speaker 2:I'm sorry, I'll put in the D-backs.
Speaker 1:You got to bring.
Speaker 2:I got Arizona as a yes, all right.
Speaker 1:You got to. If you're going to bring Philly in, I'll bring Milwaukee in.
Speaker 2:Okay, well, we got eight. We got to eliminate one.
Speaker 1:All right, let's eliminate.
Speaker 2:Padres or the.
Speaker 1:Brewers. I guess the Brewers You'll like that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I got a kid, there we go. All right, there's our seven playoff teams. We've got Philly, we got the Mets.
Speaker 1:We got the mats, we got the braves, we got the dodgers, we got the cubs, we got the padres and the d-backs. So, yeah, I, I think, I, I think it's going to be mets on top in the east and I think it's going to be, um, phillies and braves. Actually, um, I think that's going to be the way it kind of shovels out.
Speaker 2:Yeah third Atlanta. Third.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Okay, yeah.
Speaker 1:Um, although Atlanta and Philly probably interchangeable, I will say this, and we're going to have, by the way, folks coming up in the end towards the end of March, like we did last year, we are going to have a season preview episode of around the bases that you'll see where we'll have our fancy graphics and all that fun stuff on the screen. We're definitely going to do that. Yeah, I do. And the AL East, real quick, I'll say Boston just signed Alex Bregman for too much money.
Speaker 2:I'll say that.
Speaker 1:They can have him. I mean, I think you know Alex Bregman's great, I think someone I read a tweet that really pointed out the best. It says don't look for any hits from him until June, because that's what he does, that's what Alex Bergman does.
Speaker 2:It's a good part for him. He'll probably have a nice season, but he's not worth. Aaron, judge money, let's put that. That's a hard no.
Speaker 1:And that's the evaluation. He got right. Well, yeah, I mean, mean, he only got three years, but essentially he got the.
Speaker 2:The net present value is technically lower because there's some deferrals, but from a straight money standpoint he's getting 40 million a year, which is what judge got hard.
Speaker 1:No you know what, in the end of the day, in three years, if he's out of baseball, he's set for life, so good for him yeah, no, it is very good.
Speaker 2:It's not like he hasn't made any money yet.
Speaker 1:I'm happy with the Red Sox overspending.
Speaker 2:I don't care and, I'm sure, the Yankees.
Speaker 1:He's away from our league exactly if he wasn't going to come to the Cubs.
Speaker 2:I'm happy he went to the American League, I think.
Speaker 1:Boston's going to come to the Cubs. I'm happy he went to the American League. So I see, you know, I think Boston's going to be strong. I think the Yankees are going to be strong. Even without Soto, I don't think they're going to be as strong. Although they'll like to think otherwise. I think the Mets are going to still have a better record than the Yankees. I think the Mets are going to. Yeah, I think it's going to be. There's no comparison. But in the AL too, I think, I think, you know, maybe the angels might surprise somebody this year. Possibly Shout out to Nicholas Pepin, our buddy, who else in the in the American league, the Astros, I'm not feeling them.
Speaker 2:Oh, then I'm still holding my ear to the angels.
Speaker 1:I'm trying to be positive bro.
Speaker 2:I'm trying to be positive. If the angels win about 70 to 75, I think it'll be a success.
Speaker 1:I'm trying Nicholas.
Speaker 2:I'm winning them in the no category.
Speaker 1:Nicholas, I am trying. If you don't see those of you majority apparently that are listening you're not watching this podcast. Charlie did that face where he's like squamish and kind of his teeth are like like from the Simpsons. Yeah, not true you know, I throw crap out because crap out there, as you, as you point out, and rightfully so sometimes. What do you, what do you see as your top teams in the american league?
Speaker 2:not that we necessarily follow the american league I think that the east is getting at least three, at least so the yankees, the red, honestly, I think any one of the ALEs teams could make the playoffs. I think at least three.
Speaker 1:Yeah, Yankees, Red Sox, Blue Jays.
Speaker 2:Wouldn't shock me if they got four. I think the Rays are going to be better than people think. They've got a lot of their guys coming back from injury this year.
Speaker 1:Well, they are playing in a minor league park, which I think will benefit them. I think it's going to be a big benefit to them they've got a bunch of lefties in that lineup and that park is tailored for lefties, so it's it's steinbrenner field. I won't count them out at all. Yeah, I think that will benefit them, I agree, so you want me to throw another sleeper into the ring here.
Speaker 2:Tigers, well there are, I think, past sleeper range. They already got to the playoffs. They won a round last year. They're good, I think they're. I don't know if the Central gets more than one team. They might, but the Tigers could definitely be in the mix. Keep naming a team that you wouldn't expect. They finally started spending some money this year. Royals, you're in the right neighborhood of caliber team Rangers. Nah, they're a recent world series winner, right division um, so you're talking american league central american league west oh west wait.
Speaker 1:Uh.
Speaker 2:So all right, mariners, keep going they're good, but I think they're already expected to be better um uh, we already said, this team will be playing in a new stadium this season.
Speaker 1:Oh, Oakland yeah.
Speaker 2:Oakland, really, I think Oakland or Sacramento, I think they're going to surprise people.
Speaker 1:What are they going to call themselves? Are they going to be Oakland or Sacramento?
Speaker 2:Sacramento A's. They're a wild card team. A wild card? No, I'm not saying they're going to make the wild card.
Speaker 1:I'm saying they could be a flying ointment type team. They improved it more than people think. So there are going to be two teams in the american league playing in their home games in minor league stadiums this year, which is crazy, that is crazy. Um, and you know there is, it's a serious possibility, speaking of the Tampa Bay Rays, that they may eventually shift to Orlando. I mean, that's becoming more and more of kind of the buzz and, honestly, wouldn't make a difference to me personally. And honestly, orlando, geographically for those of you who don't know, who have never been to Florida, it's only an hour's drive away from Tampa, so it's not exactly that far away, so possible, and that would make the Orlando Magic not the only sports team in Orlando anymore. So we'll see, we'll see. Yeah, anything else you'd like to talk about?
Speaker 2:No, I think we covered it I think so pretty thorough I want to give a promo.
Speaker 1:Um, a heads up real quick. We have coming up. In a couple of weeks we're going to have our movie oscar preview special with the professor who's going to be coming back our buddy sam yeah he's coming back. He's our Oscars preview guy so you and I, charlie, have some homework to do. We got a little homework we got a little homework.
Speaker 2:Gotta watch some movies. We've seen a couple. We need to see a couple more so we can help him carry that, carry it a little bit yeah, we can't just have Sam. You know, we can't give him the full load yeah, we need to be at least partially in there. We've seen a few, not like we haven't.
Speaker 1:We'll we'll complete unknown. Wicked um. You need to finish. Wicked um. We need to watch it wild robot one of the wild robot animated noms great, I want to see, um, you know, the uh uh, that, uh, demi, more movie. Uh, yeah, the substance we'll put that on our list yeah, um.
Speaker 1:So, yeah, we have homework to do. And, speaking of promos too, um, coming up also in next month, we have our uh annual it's now annual because we've done it once already our baseball uh season preview show, which I love, and uh, we're gonna, we're gonna talk about all baseball, that whole episode. So it's going to be fun, we're going to enjoy it.
Speaker 2:Looking forward to it.
Speaker 1:Looking forward to it and uh, thanks again, buddy, for another great episode, another great week.
Speaker 2:We'll see you guys next week.
Speaker 1:See you next week. This has been around the bases a and I'm Tim Sternberg and have an awesome, awesome week. See you next week. Everybody bye.
