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Around the Bases 2.8: Spring Fever: Baseball's Return and Reality Show Drama!

Around the Bases: Popculture and Sports Podcast Season 2 Episode 8

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Spring training is upon us, and with it comes the excitement of a new baseball season! We kick off this episode discussing the thrilling updates from spring training—how teams like the Cubs and Mets are performing and what that means for their upcoming seasons. As baseball fever grips the nation, we share personal anecdotes from our travels to various ballparks, detailing the joy of catching live games during this vibrant time of year.

Transitioning from the diamond to the small screen, we dive into reality television, examining the growing trend of cliffhangers that are increasingly frustrating viewers. Shows like "Deal or No Deal Island" and "The Traitors" compel us to grapple with strategic choices and alliances, but do cliffhangers detract from the experience, leading to viewer dissatisfaction? Our conversation is rich with insights and critiques on the format of game shows and reality series alike.

As we wrap up, our talk turns to the highly anticipated return of "Survivor," how it successfully narrates without resorting to tense cliffhangers, and what makes it a captivating viewing experience. Additionally, we discuss the entertaining elements of "The Floor," a new game show igniting viewer engagement through competitive trivia segments.

We invite you to join us on this entertaining journey as we reflect on the evolving landscape of sports and reality television, explore what excites us this season, and contend with the questions that captivate audiences. Tune in, and don’t forget to share your thoughts with us—what are you most looking forward to this season, in baseball and beyond?

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Speaker 1:

Welcome to Around the Bases the pop culture and sports podcast with your host, brother C Martin, and I'm Tim Sternberg. Hit it, nick. We are back with another awesome week of Around the Bases the pop culture and sports podcast, charlie. How are you doing, buddy? I'm doing great.

Speaker 2:

How are you doing?

Speaker 1:

Good the Cubs. How are they doing? Just a pulse check real quick.

Speaker 2:

We're officially well where you're sitting.

Speaker 1:

We're officially into March and they have still yet to be defeated I mean, mind you, it's spring training, but I mean that that has to be pretty cool it's just a statement.

Speaker 2:

I'm not taking anything out of it. I'm just stating a fact exactly.

Speaker 1:

Uh, I cannot say the same about the mets, but you know what? We're not playing our stars a year? Not either, but we're. We're playing our stars about every other day. Which means this Sunday I am going to um Fort Meyer. Well, we're going. Tomorrow. We're going to go to Fort Myers, we're going to see the Boston it's a home of the Boston Red Sox spring training and we're going to see them play the Minnesota twins tomorrow. And then on Sunday we're staying overnight in Fort Myers. And Sunday we're going to see my New York Mets and the only time they're going on the west coast of Florida on Sunday to play the Boston Red Sox. So that's going to be fun. It's going to be a fun time. That sounds fun.

Speaker 2:

That will already be your fourth park of the spring.

Speaker 1:

Yes, yes, it'll be my fourth. Yeah, willy nilly, that's impressive.

Speaker 2:

Yes it'll be my fourth, yeah willy-nilly.

Speaker 1:

Um, you know it's, uh, it's, it's. It's a lot more than I've usually done. I really do have the baseball fever this year.

Speaker 2:

I don't know, maybe signing one, so it'll help uh, yeah and uh maybe, how far you guys went the year before when you basically wrote them off five why would you do that, dude what?

Speaker 1:

wow, wow really. Oh okay, wow what?

Speaker 2:

isn't that not what happened? I forgot you're so bad I get it wait by the hype too wait, you forget.

Speaker 1:

You don't forget a freaking thing. What are you talking about? Like that's, you know, like man, oh hey, there's nothing to be upset about.

Speaker 2:

I'm not saying no, I'm not upset?

Speaker 1:

I'm not upset, I'm just saying no what are you talking about? I'm smiling for our viewers. That are one viewer that maybe watch on youtube. I'm smiling, um. All right, speaking of uh, um, we do have another episode that is coming out this week. Just for our listeners to know, we have a movie oscar preview special with our you're a great buddy and now my friend sam the professor is joining the expert.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, so check that out also. So if you're listening to this episode, there's going to be another one right after this, so check it out with the professor. It is a great episode. We have a lot of great discussions, and just check it out, um, but we're talking regular pop culture this week, in sports, of course, and we got to start off with deal or no deal island.

Speaker 2:

Uh, um yeah, it's, it's narrowing down you know, dude, it wouldn't.

Speaker 1:

It wasn't going to be the way I would have played the game to let kind of David and Poverty kind of run the challenge.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, it seems like they're still kind of in, like I don't want to say celebrity awe, because they don't even really know about David, but they know Poverty, but they're kind of. Yeah, it kind of seems like they're getting swept up by it. I think a few of them are realizing it, but they're kind of. Yeah, it kind of seems like they're getting swept up by it. I think a few of them are realizing it, but they're on the outside anyways.

Speaker 1:

So I I understand there's some beef between, like, one side and the other and I think if they want to survive, ck has to join with Phillip and with what's the young lady I forget Phillip's friend.

Speaker 2:

Letty.

Speaker 1:

Letty, letty, phillip and Letty that she, philip, and with what's the young lady? I forget philip's friend, um, laddie, laddie, laddie, philip and laddie that she has to join with them, otherwise I'm telling you poverty, david and by, I guess, uh, you know, by default, dixon is are gonna eat them alive.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, fair enough, I mean the preview for the following episode. I don't want to give away too much, but it did seem to be like dixon was leaning into being able to play both sides, because he's kind of square in the middle and we know the whole family thing with david and poverty, but he feels a little betrayed because of her decision, which we'll get to um, but we'll see and we we know the editing hasn't been the greatest, so it's possible that that's exactly what happens, you know, sometimes in reality shows and we're going to talk about the traitors later in the episode where the editing kind of leads one way and we don't know exactly what, and uh, yeah, mbc, stop with the freaking.

Speaker 1:

And peacock is part of mbc. Stop with the we'll talk about this later but stop with the cliffhangers yeah, it seems to be a lot of people.

Speaker 2:

Stop it, stop it, can't we have it. Can't we have a, a society with a good old survivor, where you get a result every episode? Exactly right, we'll talk about that later too.

Speaker 1:

Yeah just don't. Don't mess with, don't mess with the format. I mean I mean amazing racer to do. Do that too.

Speaker 2:

I know you don't watch that but a couple of seasons ago, or maybe let the fans have a little input on the format Survivor again, just saying.

Speaker 1:

I know, and yeah, we'll definitely talk about the premiere of Survivor, this episode for sure. But on Deal or no Deal Island we have David and Parvati, so the challenge is basically similar to there was another show we saw that had a challenge where they would leave somebody. Oh, it was traders, traders.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, when they left them on the raft.

Speaker 1:

It was similar to that. Yes, very similar yes, and they were just far less people.

Speaker 2:

Yes, exactly that was like our week one traders when there were still like 20 people. That was like our week one traders when there were still like 20 people.

Speaker 1:

So this is the point in the game where I think the lesser kind of gamey players should get together and say we're not going to let these guys just steamroll us, and what they should have done was left Poverty and David first. What are you doing? What are you doing like?

Speaker 2:

they probably didn't know what it fully entailed. And when you know, at the beginning you thought it was like this, like long hike. You saw all the strong people in the beginning.

Speaker 1:

But I get what you're saying oh, I was like what do you like, dude? Like seriously, so yeah, they, they. Of course they started leaving players and you know it ends up when they they do a zip line. A la mole, I mean mole had that kind of challenge, which is interesting, cause I'm afraid of heights and I don't know how I would handle that challenge, um, but uh, it ends up poverty, of course. And David get the last two cases and, of course, the two highest amounts, so they both safe. And now par was it? David had to make the decision on who to face the banker and there was some discussion.

Speaker 2:

Poverty, poverty, oh it was poverty okay because, remember, she made that's right to get to the. The last person to be left behind was Lachelle and she basically told her, hey, we got you, but she also had told Dixon, we got you, and she didn't know what was going on back at the part where the other ones were already left, which was they got an offer if they could agree between the four of them, three of them would automatically be safe for the from the not elimination safe, but from the banker.

Speaker 2:

And then the fourth person would just be out on the bottom up to play the banker with whoever comes back next, which then happened to be Lachelle. So little did poverty know she was making an empty promise at that moment to one of the two yeah, I mean you have to be careful.

Speaker 1:

Playing on a reality show what kind of promises you make, because you're gonna have to break if, especially if they're they're, they're parallel. You have to break one eventually and you know that's not good for your game and poverty. I think poverty realized this and um realized that she was like in between a rock and a hard place. She had her son, part of the family, dixon, which as a grown man I would kind of be insulted by somebody calling me their son, but I am a little older than him but still like, yeah, I don't know um and uh. So you know she has to choose between, of course, her son and lachelle because, um, yeah, those were the two that were up to face the banker. Uh, the others weren't safe but they weren't had didn't have to play the banker.

Speaker 2:

They're safe from the banker, right so she picks lachelle.

Speaker 1:

As soon as she picks lachelle, here's my thinking oh, philip's safe, because there's no way lachelle would have gotten rid of philip. And I'm watching the show, you know, as you know, knowing philip and a philip fan, and hoping philip gets far.

Speaker 2:

And as soon as she picked lachelle, I'm like, okay, philip's good this episode lachelle was gonna is gonna pick someone that will send a message, and it's not gonna be philip she would have picked dixon 100 to go home if she had.

Speaker 1:

If she had one. Unfortunately, you know, here's, here's my. I'm all about doing good for the group, but in that scenario I wouldn't have taken that deal. The odds weren't there, the money was there and you know I understand her thought process in adding money to the pot. But at the end of the day and listen, I mean it's a reality show If I'm not going to benefit from that money being increased, I'm sorry but I'm going to do what's best for you, she.

Speaker 2:

On her way out she said that she felt the game was getting to a point where it's getting a little brutal and she didn't know if she had it in her. I don't know if I buy her actually believing that. I think that's to your point.

Speaker 1:

She probably was not making the best decision, and then she realized well whatever, this is what I'll say to get out of it I'll say this how do you go through the grueling casting process and we know I mean for a game show it's not even as bad and game show was a lot of stuff that we had to do how do you go through the grueling, you know, a psychological test, background, check, all that stuff and then say, and towards the end of the game, that you don't know if you can do it anymore, like I don't get that, like I don't physically understand, let's let's, let's play it out.

Speaker 2:

Let's say she said no, okay, worst case scenario, she eliminates one case, there's still a 50 50 chance that it's one and a half millions, the offer still. I mean the offer would have gone down, but it's not like it would have gone down to zero it would have been a pretty good offer, and then at that point she would at least had a 50 50 chance to stay in the game, or not, yeah, she had.

Speaker 1:

I mean, what was it? One 1.75 million was in her case 5.58 was the offer.

Speaker 2:

Okay, well, 1.75 was the second case. There was also a 2.5 million case and then the one penny.

Speaker 1:

And she had how much.

Speaker 2:

The offer was 1.5 essentially, so it was basically a pretty good offer from that standpoint.

Speaker 1:

But her case was like 1.7 or something like that.

Speaker 2:

Yes, at 1.75. She had the 1.75. Got like that yes.

Speaker 1:

At 1.75. She had the 1.75. Got it? I mean, I mean I get it. But you know, I'm all in that and I, I'm telling you straight up If I was to play that game, I'm not taking an offer that's less than 50% odds of winning. Like I, I'm just not doing it.

Speaker 2:

You're playing, playing to stay in the game. And if you only add.

Speaker 1:

If you only add 900, 000 or a million instead of 1.5, but you stay in, that's better and you're. Listen, you're a stats guy, right? I, I, I, you watch the shows with me, like I would say, a good portion of the offers are like 50 50.

Speaker 1:

I mean they don't really play around with that, it's, it's really it's always better if you can get it, the odds in your favor, which sometimes it is, but sometimes it's like better if you can get it the odds in your favor, which sometimes it is, but sometimes it's like you know there are three cases higher, one lower. He did that was a really good. I kind of will do like. I think that that's the best scenarios when you're like a three to one type of thing.

Speaker 1:

You know, and you, you have a shot and you know again, at the end of the day you still could lose that. I day you still could lose that. I mean, that's what odds are about. You know they're not full, but yeah, so deal or no deal island. Uh, can't wait to watch the rest of the season coming up still rooting for philip and hopefully it works out. So we now going to second base. We gotta talk about traitors. Oh my god, I was pissed. I'm going to start that all right away.

Speaker 2:

I was you alluded to it earlier in the episode, you, I, I did not know it was coming until you texted me, and then I was like, oh, no, dude dude they got.

Speaker 1:

I didn't want to spoil it. So here's what happened. I was on instagram and reality tv fan, you know said you know spoilers. You want to be spoiled. I'm like I don't usually want to. I don't know what it is. My eyes went right down to the end of the thing because that's where the spoiler was and I'm like no cliffhanger and you don't find out who this year is.

Speaker 2:

I'm like what the freaking?

Speaker 1:

hold on, hold on, hold on, not no cliffhanger I mean, there's a cliffhanger, right cliffhanger, and you don't know who the seer is. And so I'm thinking, well, that just why bother watching the episode? Because, quite frankly, we knew that britney was going to be. She was going to recruit britney because britney was going down to the dungeon. So we knew that was happening and we knew, too, that Brittany was not going to tell her no.

Speaker 2:

Right, I mean interesting.

Speaker 1:

Let me give a little perspective to this. This season of the Traitors, filmed about two months after Reindeer Games ended. Wow, which is interesting. Timing, timing and everything.

Speaker 1:

So for our listeners who might not know, um danielle reyes and britney um were contestants of big brother and were on the only season to exist of reindeer games. And there was a point and I mentioned this before in reindeer games where, uh, danielle and Brittany were in a challenge and Dan and Brittany made Danielle, gave Danielle a handicap. I don't remember exactly what happened. It was about the time with the wheel or something like that.

Speaker 2:

It was like a 32nd penalty or something.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, and Danielle went home. That was it for Danielle, and so Danielle held this grudge that did kind of seep a little bit into the traders in the beginning and so by the end of the day Danielle felt that the only person that she could really trust in the game that's left and honestly I thought it was a no brainer is to pick Brittany to to um to be a trader with her. I will say Danielle is not a very popular player from what I've looked at social media and everything else. They think that she did carolyn wrong, although I will argue and counter argue that carolyn did carolyn wrong because carolyn didn't play exactly the greatest game either yeah, um, I, I, I see both sides of it as well.

Speaker 2:

I think that I I understand why people are upset with danielle. But to your point I will say they're playing a game of strategy and I'm sorry, but danielle played it better than she did, plain and simple.

Speaker 1:

So I mean I think anybody who's in the in the mansion still played the better game. I mean, yeah, that's the way it could be played.

Speaker 2:

Especially the part where they were answering the questions. I mean she walked Carolyn into a trap and Carolyn sat right in it. So I mean she deserved it at that point. So they can complain all they want, but Danielle Al played her in that.

Speaker 1:

And now I understand it a little more. I just alluded to it in a text to you earlier. I watched like a best of carolyn from her season of survivor, so I got like a really good you got okay, just of carolyn and I'm like who who searches for their son's poop, for the tooth that he swallowed, like. That's like basically who carolyn is and and her react, like the tongue and their reactions on survivor with she's it's, I get it, I get it, I get it, I get why her worth watching.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, and bam bam. Is it bam, bam bam?

Speaker 2:

bam. Yep, he's the one that won the season. Legendary people on that season. Yeah, yeah, and Carson, of course. I'm sorry. I gotta correct that. It's Yam Yam.

Speaker 1:

Yam Yam, I'm sorry, bam Bam is the Flintstones. Yeah, but yeah, I will definitely go back and watch that season of Survivor. So let's real quick on Traitors. They do this challenge right, which is basically an amalgamation of different challenges together, and they brought back the stupid clowns again.

Speaker 1:

The clowns and they basically had to memorize what balloons had money and what didn't, and they collected money as they went along and there were several rounds. If they wanted to go on or if they didn't bank and they got a bad balloon, they would lose their money and then they had the creepy dolls in the second round, they pulled the string and the doll.

Speaker 1:

I was wondering how random that was. That's interesting, the way that kind of worked out and yeah, you kind of all the amounts were the same in the order, which was interesting too. Um and then, uh, they had the coins in the poop, or whatever the coins were in. They made it feel like it was poop, whatever that was because your Carolyn and Tooth story.

Speaker 2:

It had you thinking about it right. For the first time, though, we didn't see who won the challenge correct, which is odd we knew the leaderboard through round two, so we basically knew it was between a couple people. More than likely, because it's only $100 per coin. How many more do you think someone could truly?

Speaker 1:

Oh, I think Danielle won, and I think that's why we didn't find out who it was.

Speaker 2:

And Dylan noticed, noticing was paying attention to how hard she was trying. He brought that up.

Speaker 1:

Which bled into the um interesting round table yeah, uh, oh, I alluded to it. Uh, there, we do not get a resolution in the round table either. There is a tie. Only because, you know, the only reason why Ivar was even voted on was because of dolores and they needed to get the numbers and dolores wanted to vote for ivar and there was nothing that danielle could do about it.

Speaker 2:

That can we briefly mention how unbelievable another great game moment by danielle. Soon as dolores said ivar out loud. She looked at brit. They subtly looked at each other and both understood what was needed to do and the fact that they did. That is why we had the cliffhanger. If they aren't smart enough to pick that up, she's gone.

Speaker 1:

So let me ask you a question and I asked you this on text and we talked a little bit about it. Talked a little bit about it, it made the editing made it seem like Brittany was going to change her vote for Danielle.

Speaker 2:

Yes, and that's what you thought, and personally I felt opposite. I felt that was probably just an editing trick. I just don't see how it. There's just no upside for a game move at that moment for Brittany. People already think Brittany's a traitor, so keep her in as a shield. Option one, two, the whole Sear thing if Danielle wins, she knows it's not going to be her. So if Danielle goes out and what if someone else gets to see her and then can ask if it's Brittany? It could blow up her whole game. Danielle in for a little longer at least makes sense.

Speaker 1:

So let me ask you a question. If it does end up as a tie and they have to do some kind of challenge, I don't see Ivar beating Danielle.

Speaker 2:

Is it a challenge?

Speaker 1:

I thought he said it was up to chance.

Speaker 2:

Oh, I was thinking it was more of like that's right toss uh, maybe that's what it is, I have no idea, that was just the first thing that came to my head interesting it's something 50 50, so maybe a coin toss.

Speaker 1:

But so well, I'm trying to figure out what britney's reaction was if it was an editing trick, because she was like shocked I think it was more.

Speaker 2:

I think it was. You know here's what I'm going to say, and you'll know this better than me but a little thing that we did. There were moments where I saw you on episodes that we were not in studio for, so that could easily have been her reaction to the first moment someone said or you know what I mean that could have been a shot from eight minutes prior in the round table I think I'm gonna. I'm gonna hope that it's editing. I just don't see her betraying her like that.

Speaker 1:

They literally had me on. We Are Family jumping up and down to Joey Fatone folks. I was not in the studio for Joey.

Speaker 2:

Fatone, there was an episode where you see both Cohen and myself in the same spot, so it's all in the details. And that obviously is not possible because you took over for going after right, we shared the same seat he had at first and then it was mine.

Speaker 1:

Yeah so interesting. Um, yeah, we'll see what happens on the traders. Um, speaking of you know we're just talking about survivor. Let's go right into the survivor season premiere speaking of a show that doesn't do cliffhangers.

Speaker 2:

This is how a society works. Ok, we live in a quote, george Costanza. We live in a society, yes, we do. We start, and you know what? We're going to get? A resolution at the end of the episode, because that's what Survivor does.

Speaker 1:

Can we please have a beginning, a middle and an end reality, people, please, mbc, for goodness sakes, stop with this nonsense of cliffhangers. We you started that with that usa show, whatever that was unanimous unanimous does.

Speaker 1:

Stop doing that. Like, what are you doing? They, they did it. They did it with deal, no deal. It's not fun, we don't like it, we don't like it. Like, what are you doing? Like, don't do that, don't do that. Um, so survivor doesn't do that. I will say you know, having the goat this is my third season back now. That we're why you know we, we've kind of it's survivor. My only issue always has been with surviving. I'll tell you straight up and why. I kind of went off the beaten path with survivor a little bit. It is very hard in the beginning to get into. It is hard because the characters you don't, you're not, you don't know anyone's name in the first episode.

Speaker 1:

Totally, it's very surface, right. It's like I'm just watching a bunch of people on an island.

Speaker 2:

That's how the first episode, even the first several, like three episodes at least until you get more into like story and drive and so it's hard, it's hard I and I get that, I get that and that's why I think a lot of the times it's worth the payoff, depending on the season. But let's just say I think that as far as this season goes, I don't want to jump ahead to tribal without talking about some of the episode. But I will just say to this, to this point, that we're talking about tribal started off hot, week one, hot I. I can't remember.

Speaker 2:

I saw one of the I think it was mike bloom, who tweets a lot about this, about the social, the reality games. I think he also said it where I don't know there's ever been this tense and in like big I want to say big tribal in week one before, like it was crazy, that was wild, like that felt like a like a week, you know, like a day 26, survivor tribal, not day two. You want to explain what happened. The season. I mean we can, we can go chronologically through it, but I just yeah, that just was a pretty big opening.

Speaker 2:

I thought too, yeah. So, by the way, I've only seen the last three, so for sure for you.

Speaker 1:

But I mean, can we just compliment how beautiful Tribal looks? I mean the look of it alone is like unbelievable, like how much work goes into this show. Yeah, I mean it looked like a village.

Speaker 2:

I also thought that the immunity idols that they're playing for were super well done this year. Yeah, super the detail on it was really good.

Speaker 1:

How I'm jealous that these they get to keep their torches. Their torches are actually mailed to them after the season. That is like.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, what a nice little award.

Speaker 1:

You know like, trust me, if I ever, ever go on survivor, that torch is going to be in the background forever. Oh yeah, absolutely, or big brother, you'll get you know whatever they send you the key.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, you know what the key the key could go right over your left shoulder, right there below the picture of you, and uh and and Regis. Yeah, they're not. You know, listen, big brother and regis yeah, they're not.

Speaker 1:

You know, listen, big brother call me. They're not calling me, so phone lines are open. I've heard people have gotten calls already for casting. They have not called me, so there you go.

Speaker 2:

Uh, they're waiting for and waiting for the moment it's okay, you know what I'm gonna.

Speaker 1:

I'm gonna apply for survivor 2, so we'll see how that goes. Survivor 51 let's go, um, but yeah, I, I, I.

Speaker 2:

But anything you want to kind of talk about with the episode other than tribal and um, one thing that I think we just have to add talk about, because it was funny, but I definitely noticed it when it happened and rewound it, and people on twitter also saw it as well. But did you notice? I think I sent it to you. Maybe I didn't, but did you see? Jeff took a face challenge, god, just absolutely face planted and played it off very well like he did.

Speaker 1:

Nothing happened.

Speaker 2:

It was so it was so quick that a casual viewer, or like you know, or you're like looking at your phone would have never noticed it. So during during some eagle-eyed other people out there, people were so quick with it that I I didn't even bother to video it because it was already up and yeah, peep, so just to kind of he.

Speaker 1:

It was during the challenge. He ran into a device and he bounced off of it and landed and then bounced right back up like almost like you, he like the. The device was blocking him and you could see him kind of scoop up and just act like nothing happened yes, I was like, wow, he bounced.

Speaker 1:

I love to see another camera. I liked it during a reunion, maybe to see another camera angle of that. Oh man, another another momentous thing in this episode real quick is uh, we can now vote for elements of survivor 50, which I did. Um, did you vote for the live finale coming back?

Speaker 2:

because I did um.

Speaker 1:

I think I voted no for that one interesting I I love the live finale one way or another.

Speaker 2:

I just, I just kind of like the them relishing in the moment of it, right after the game ends, and them doing it. But I mean, yeah, you know, I guess if they the the old way the live finale, they would wait months without knowing who won yeah, I love that yeah, I, I, yeah, I'm. I was pretty neutral on it, but I think I did vote against it I think it's gonna win.

Speaker 1:

I think they're gonna. I think that element I do think you're right on that and I, I, I like the purple color and there was some debate. Apparently people thought it was pink or purple and it was purple.

Speaker 2:

I like that color scheme because I haven't really seen that yeah, that one was another one where I didn't care too much I did.

Speaker 1:

I want to continue the fire making. I like the fire making part of the game.

Speaker 2:

Um yeah so, and it's, it's. I think it's an important strategy too, for I've mentioned it before, but there's a season recently where that is a big decision to be made that I don't want to spoil. What was the fourth question? Again it was. I can't remember it was nothing huge.

Speaker 1:

It was the live, like you said, the live vote.

Speaker 2:

Oh was it? It was the rice question. Oh, I said no, they should earn it.

Speaker 1:

I said they should earn it. I mean, that's a staple of the show. Why should they? They should work for it. These are all stars that are going to be on the show. These are people that have already played the game. They need to earn it. Listen, I think it's going to be. It adds a fun element to the season 50 to watch in real time Our votes, kind of come out and see how it plays out. So, cause we won't find out until that season airs and if they do bring the live finale back with 50, that so 50 is going. So 49 and 50 are going to tape this summer. That means 50 won't air.

Speaker 1:

So they're going to have to wait six months, like you said, because that, not even more than that, because it's gonna tape in like june and they're not gonna find out until like may so 50 would air like right now it would air it would be the second one, right, it would be late february, which which works out for them because they can hype it as much as they want in 49 and yeah, but then they're waiting to, yeah, like eight months, nine months almost. Some locks, you think for 50? I think Seri is absolutely going to be on 50.

Speaker 2:

I would be surprised if she wasn't, it would be hard to not see her, or Sandra, at least one of them.

Speaker 1:

Sandra Seri, I think Carolyn too. I found out the trader's contract is only 6 months.

Speaker 2:

I wouldn't be shocked if Carolyn doesn't get the nod well that one wouldn't surprise me as much. She was a little more polarizing, if that's fair. I agree whereas someone like say Seri or you know Poverty and Jeff loves Seri say Seri or Poverty.

Speaker 1:

And Jeff loves Seri.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I mean, seri's one of the best players ever.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, and she plays her brother too good.

Speaker 2:

What if Seri did? It can't be 50, but what if Seri got to do something with her daughter?

Speaker 1:

Well, you do know that interesting that you bring this up because I wanted to talk to you about this. The Amazing Race after the next season is doing a whole season of Big Brother contestants. Sari was a Big Brother contestant. It's very possible that we could see Sari on Amazing Race to complete the trifecta. We've never seen a Survivor player on the Amazing Race. I don't believe.

Speaker 2:

Oh interesting, I didn't know that.

Speaker 1:

The big brother we have. Yeah, so I think maybe I'm wrong. I'm sure one of our listeners will correct me if I am wrong, but interesting. So we'll see how that kind of plays out yeah, yeah. So I'm looking forward to the season of survivor me too, it will of course be wild we had a big fight already, so it should be a good season we'll be talking a lot about it on this podcast and, uh, can't wait to talk more and more and more about it. Um, all right.

Speaker 2:

So, moving on to another one of our guilty pleasures, I will say right absolutely, and I had a lot of fun ones at least for me this this week um the floor, the floor.

Speaker 1:

So the floor, as on fox. Um, it's hosted by rob low and I was watching it and I was thinking lots of charlie characters, I mean categories. Um, yeah, when I saw sports movies I was like, oh my god, charlie is gonna be like boom boom, boom boom. They didn't do that well no, they did not.

Speaker 2:

that episode seemed like I was a writing credit on it somehow, I don't know how. But I mean, we had sports movies, we had college basketball teams.

Speaker 1:

That's another one Like oh my God, I know. It's a Charlie Seymour episode.

Speaker 2:

They were just missing. They were just missing like cheese pizza places you can get pizza from.

Speaker 1:

I was watching it I was like this is Charlie.

Speaker 2:

It's like all charlie, like almost all charlie yeah, I mean there was in and there was also another category. That was easy. There was like what was it like? Everyday items or something, or whatever it was was just like literally naming an object I had erica in tears as I'm trying to do the math one it's.

Speaker 1:

It's a multiple case. Erica's really good at it and I was like making her laugh, so she was like trying to get the numbers out. I was like what, what? And it was just funny. It's very, we're very, interactive. When we were watching it and I was like I think it finally came to one. It was like five times two, I'm like.

Speaker 2:

I was like you got one so you would have been eliminated in that one, huh oh my god, uh, dude, it was so funny, so funny.

Speaker 1:

But yeah, the floor, uh, the floor on fox, watch it check it out. So had uh, we had brian win another 20 we did they just handed him that money and uh from the spoilers this time, and so he added two more pieces to it from the spoilers I I see that there is a player that gets to like 120 or something like that, like, so I think that's brian. I mean the way it's looking 120 I mean wait, wait, so 60, uh, another 20, another, yeah, yeah, there's a player that keeps winning that.

Speaker 2:

So I think it has to be him. There's no way.

Speaker 1:

Someone, everybody else has zero they basically gave that away like oh I didn't notice that was that in the trailer yeah, in the season. Yeah, it's like, and we've had a player who wins and wins, and wins, and I'm it has to be Ryan. Yeah, so interesting. I will say the way the floor is designed. You could play the greatest game, but you just have to lose one duel and you're done.

Speaker 2:

Absolutely, it's very hard. Take 120. That's almost. I will take a hundred Half of what the winner will get.

Speaker 1:

You know it was a very poignant moment when he did the confessional and he was saying you know, a lot of people say I'm an actor, I have a lot of money, he goes. No, I mean, I struggle just like everybody else. And he was literally almost in tears and I was like, oh you go dude, you go dude.

Speaker 2:

I'm rooting for him. He's like he said he wanted to bring me to his family.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah, so I mean great, Absolutely.

Speaker 2:

Also in some of the funniest movies. He's a big storyline. You got to be rooting for him Absolutely.

Speaker 1:

And we forgot, you know, in our movie episode to ask the professor about him. Oh yeah, yeah, we'll ear next one definitely, definitely, um, and that's another thing, if you haven't already listened, we have uh out. We had a great episode with the professor sam frank, who goes we go through a rundown of all the movies that are nominated for best picture and for other awards and we talk about some honorable mentions that did not get nominated. That that sam likes and it was a really great conversation with him.

Speaker 2:

So check that out on wherever you get your podcast did you miss any movies that you wanted to mention that you can know out here I was hoping you know there's.

Speaker 1:

Well, there was a movie real quick at um. That was at uh, the toronto film festival. That hasn't really come out yet. It's called the luckiest man alive and the movie is about um, an ice cream truck driver who goes on to win a record amount of money on pressure, luck, the game show and uh oh yeah I've been waiting to see that movie and how it comes out.

Speaker 2:

So yeah, but that's one movie that I am excited is one that I thought appropriate, since we've mentioned it before, was we didn't mention saturday night, but I think we have, oh love that movie that was a solid one as well so good.

Speaker 1:

So you know great thing about saturday night is it's basically in real time right leading up to the premiere of the premiere episode, and uh yeah, also inside out too.

Speaker 2:

We mentioned a lot of fantastic animated movies.

Speaker 1:

Another one too strong year for animated movies definitely, um, and if you missed, you know, check out the episode for sure, if you missed it. But you know, sam mentioned uh in particular. Uh, you know, don't forget the hundreds of beavers.

Speaker 2:

So yes, of course I'd be remiss if we didn't shout it out, because he it's his life mission to make sure more people see it exactly. Support that mission I'm in fact I'm gonna say that I will watch it in the next week or two.

Speaker 1:

I will too. It's on my immediate list. I will too, so check out our movie Oscar preview special that's out with Sam. I had a great time with him and thank him once again, charlie, for joining us.

Speaker 2:

Absolutely, it was very fun.

Speaker 1:

Yes, definitely, and you make sure you get some rest because I know you've got a nice drive to see your fourth spring training stadium tomorrow, yes, I'm headed to Fort Myers to see the Red Sox and the Twins, and then on Sunday the Mets are playing the Red Sox, so I'm excited about that.

Speaker 2:

We are officially the calendar month in which baseball starts. How about that? Yes, how about that Spring is in the air?

Speaker 1:

When are the? When are the Tokyo games?

Speaker 2:

Very close. They're like the 17th and 18th.

Speaker 1:

The Chicago Cubs versus the Los Angeles Dodgers live at six o'clock in the morning from Tokyo, or actually five o'clock my time or no, seven o'clock my, something like that.

Speaker 2:

Is it seven? Is it seven? I don't know.

Speaker 1:

It's. You said it was some ungodly hour.

Speaker 2:

It's, it's six, 10 year time.

Speaker 1:

So it's five, 10 year time.

Speaker 2:

That's okay, You'll be out. It's the 18th and 19th Tuesday and.

Speaker 1:

Wednesday All right.

Speaker 2:

So spring training is still going on. Oh yeah, the Cubs have. After those two games against the Dodgers, they play five more spring training games.

Speaker 1:

Wait, wait, wait, wait. Let me conceptualize this real quick before we sign off.

Speaker 2:

We're playing spring training. Wait, wait, wait, before anyone else plays another game we're playing spring training games.

Speaker 1:

They're doing two regular season games in tokyo and then going back to spring training. Yep, have we ever done that before?

Speaker 2:

no, oh, actually I do think that did. They did do it one year with the when they, but it might have been in mexico or somewhere else that's crazy like that boggles my mind. And here's something even to boggle your mind more, because not everybody has an opening day game on Thursday when the season starts. Some teams play Friday. The Cubs could have three wins before a team's even played, because the Cubs play Thursday. In Arizona they have a four game set which we will be at.

Speaker 1:

Yes, I'm excited for that. I'll be in New York when you guys are in Arizona. Let me ask you a question, technical Okay. Don't they have to finalize rosters before the season starts? How does that work if we're still in spring training?

Speaker 2:

So basically for this for them, they will basically within the spring training roster temporarily. They will temporarily have a 26 man that they will go to japan with. I think they're allowed to bring two extra players with because of injury or whatever they need to do. So I think they bring 28 with them as like extra and then when they go back, spring continues and then theoretically, people could get injured or someone else could switch and make the team and it'll be interesting with the cubs because at least one, if not two, of their infielders will probably not be ready for japan.

Speaker 2:

They should be ready for arizona, but nico horner being one of them, he for sure will more than likely not be ready, and then possibly matt shaw.

Speaker 1:

So theoretically, the cubs are already going 27, 28 men possibly so so they're not doing like a split squad thing where they're going to play spring training and then do the regular season games. They're going to just pause their spring training activities go with.

Speaker 2:

We'll still be working out in Arizona, but the Cubs won't have enough players to be fielding a game. They have just the two regular season games and then obviously, the travel day before and after.

Speaker 1:

Go Cubs go, go Cubs go. Hopefully it goes like spring training Knock those Dodgers out, I'll be wearing my Cubs hat. You better believe it, I'll be wearing my Cubs hat you better believe it.

Speaker 2:

Hopefully it goes like spring training has so far.

Speaker 1:

No losses, fingers crossed, all right. This has been Around the Bases, the pop culture and sports podcast, with your host, charlie Seymour, and I'm Tim Sterberg. Until next week, play ball. Bye, everybody, you.

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