Around the Bases: Pop Culture and Sports Podcast

Around the Bases 2.9: The Ultimate Reality TV Roundup: The Traitors Finale, Survivor, Deal or No Deal Island & More!

Around the Bases: Popculture and Sports Podcast Season 2 Episode 9

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Reality TV fans rejoice as Charlie and Tim serve up the perfect blend of competition analysis and fandom in their latest deep dive. The Traitors finale takes center stage with a thorough breakdown of the winners masterful social game. 

The hosts don't hold back their excitement when dissecting the satisfaction of watching the cocky "Collectibles" expert on The Floor get defeated in his own specialty. "How annoying do you have to be for people to actually go on camera and say they want to get rid of you?" they wonder, sharing insider perspective from their own game show experiences. Meanwhile, Brian continues his winning streak, amassing $80,000 with apparently two more victories coming based on preview hints.

Survivor's new season already features brutal physical challenges that make other reality competitions look like "patty cake," with contestants attempting ocean swimming while balancing objects on narrow beams. The hosts analyze the strategic shift happening as stronger players get targeted early, completely contrary to old-school Survivor thinking. Deal or No Deal Island's tightrope quicksand disaster provides comedic relief, with CK's spectacular fall getting replayed in increasingly slow motion for maximum impact.

As spring training signals baseball's approach, Charlie and Tim share their excitement for upcoming games and giveaways. Their enthusiasm for both sports and reality competition creates an infectious energy that makes you feel like you're hanging out with knowledgeable friends. Tune in for strategy, laughs, and the perfect balance of analysis and entertainment from two hosts who genuinely love what they're talking about.

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Speaker 1:

Welcome to Around the Bases, a pop culture and sports podcast with your host, carlos Simar, and I'm Tim Sternberg. Hit it, nick Wow. So how are you doing, charlie?

Speaker 2:

I'm uh finaled up. How are you doing?

Speaker 1:

same like traders. We just watched the traders finale folks, uh just, and actually dropped a little earlier. Um, I saw something online that says it sometimes drops like at 830, 815. So I decided to check at like 840 and I was there on my Peacock so I was like ooh.

Speaker 2:

I'm watching. I had my phone plugged in and charging so I didn't see your text for like seven whole minutes and then I was like, oh damn it, we're like already he's going to be ahead of me and I was ahead of you. Not to mention, we still had one more battle to finish on the floor, which we didn't want to pause with one battle.

Speaker 1:

Which we'll talk about later. We'll definitely talk about that last battle later, time to perfectly wrap up a round eight.

Speaker 2:

We were going to be right on time to start live traders and no Peacock had to. I even went out of my way earlier today to go on peacock check and it said nine eastern eight central. I said perfect. I double checked. I know that's all right, we'll start we. We already watched the first couple battles of the floor. We'll talk about later. But I've started at like 7 15 to finish the floor right before eight. It was like perfect setup. Uh, why can't we have nice things?

Speaker 1:

and then you get my text and you're like, oh shit, oh yeah. So let's start with the, let's start to trade. So, folks, if you're listening to this podcast and you have not watched the traders in advance, you might want to skip ahead, because these are going to be major spoilers for you, and just that's a warning. So, and before I get it, we get into the actual show.

Speaker 2:

Go watch traders and then come right back.

Speaker 1:

Right. I was literally just yes, come back, we need you. We need you on a round basis. Thank you, uh. Public service announcement. We were just, I was just it. Just it just revealed who was eliminated, which we'll talk about in a second. And I'm on tiktok right and luckily, I saw who was just eliminated and the first tiktok that pops up is them showing this person being eliminated. I'm like, are you serious that fast? I'm like you cannot even let people. No, it was some dude holding up his phone to the freaking tv.

Speaker 2:

But I'm like you can't record the video, but you can't even be cool to be first to put it out there but you can't wait for people to freaking watch it.

Speaker 1:

I was like, thank god, I saw it already. So, folks, last that, we, we, we talked about this last week and, uh, by the way, shout out to sam real quick, sam, the professor who basically called like a large part of the oscar winners he saves everybody three hours of watching it.

Speaker 2:

He pretty much picked all the awards professor, nice job. I can't wait to have you back on the show, buddy so it's impossible to top that episode that was like that was like a jordan flu game totally like. I don't even know who that is, um, but michael jordan, oh michael, jordan on the flow, then he drops like 60 I know who michael jordan is. There you go yeah you never tell a bulls fan who michael jordan went nuts yes oh, that's, I do remember that story.

Speaker 1:

The flu, yes, yes, yes, I, I thought you meant flu, like he flew, no, which michael jordan does like I mean he did fly through the air, though I mean the man was I could see where why you thought that.

Speaker 1:

so, yeah, that's why, anyway, air jordan, air jordan, yes, uh, back to the trader. So last week we talked, uh, last week in our regular episode we mentioned that the cliffhanger for the traders. It was a double cliffhanger, so we didn't know who the seer was, but also who was going to be banished. And Brittany was about to reveal her vote and you said Editing for sure, I definitely.

Speaker 2:

I went hard on the play action I oversold, which made me believe it. All my safeties were brought in. They threw it deep, but that I bit hard on it. They probably you know what. They probably knew that so many people are onto their editing tricks and it was a double bluff yeah.

Speaker 1:

So you, at first I was like, oh, danielle's gone, because the way britney kind of was like, because I remember that reaction at reindeer games, so we'll talk about that so I was like and then you said, well, it's an editing thing, there's no way, because then they would have showed it and then they've been pal, pal in the media and so on, so forth. I'm like you know what? You make some good points, you're probably right. Right, I was going to go.

Speaker 2:

Not to mention it. And it took away another person for this year. What if someone else wanted to pick Brittany? The game was over, exactly. I will say, though, she's lucky she got second place in that, and I say second because I really do think Danielle won it. And then, if Danielle was out, it goes to second, which is britney, which I was surprised. I didn't think she was going to be this year yeah, I was surprised at that too, but in record.

Speaker 1:

so basically they lifted the thing and danielle was voted out. So yeah, I was, I was so mad, I was, so I was like now, although I mean Charlie, I mean Danielle was not long for the game. There's no way she was going to win the game. They knew that she was a traitor, they weren't going to let her go to the end.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, the only. The only thing I was thinking that could have happened was had the tiebreaker come and then Iver went. Look at the numbers in the house. It's Danielle, brittany, gabby, dolores and Dylan. Four women against one guy. It would have got a lot more difficult.

Speaker 1:

Although you do see later on in the episode that Brittany did try to sway the ladies to vote Dylan and it didn't work Right.

Speaker 2:

Well, because she didn't have Danielle versus Ivar, that's a two vote swing right there. Yeah, would it have been a little different if her if there were already two votes on it, gabby might have tipped that direction because I think she wanted to, but she also didn't want to be the only one to vote with her.

Speaker 1:

That's a good point and you mentioned so you mentioned Brittany won the Sear and probably I agree with you by default probably Danielle, because from everything looking at the challenge, danielle was the winner. So Brittany got the Sear, which I think. And so for our listeners, the Sear is basically a power where you get to pull one player into a private meeting and there's a card that reveals what they are the traitor or faithful. And she pulls Gabby into a private meeting and there's a card that reveals what they are the traitor or faithful and, uh, she pulls gabby into a meeting and I think she played it perfectly. I think the only way to play it as a traitor is to say exactly what the truth is. And, um, you know, of course, gabby was a faithful and she told everybody that gabby was a faithful at breakfast the next morning, which I think was her only move, I mean.

Speaker 2:

Dylan was already on to her.

Speaker 1:

By the way, can we just say Dylan is probably one of the better players I've seen on the show. Yeah, I mean, he's the reason why the four of them at the end were at the end.

Speaker 2:

And I will say at about roughly three or four pm Chicago time, and I will say at about roughly 3 or 4 pm Chicago time. So well before it aired, you texted myself and Michael and said, quote Dylan will be at least a winner tonight. And you nailed that.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

Were you nervous that they were going to push the votes?

Speaker 1:

No, I felt, I felt strongly, I think what he, he, he succeeded in the social game and the social aspect where people he built so much trust with all the other players, specifically ivar, and I think with gabby to some extent, even though he named her. Uh, I think that you know he had this currency, that you just he in the last, like two or three things that happened. And I mean, look, I think what cemented him and Gabby, frankly, was the challenge and they had to do this challenge where you know they're collecting this money and at the end of the challenge they have to like hook onto a helicopter and drop it in a fire circle of fire to increase the amount. And he went up with Gabby, who was nervous, and I think that kind of cemented their relationship to the point where she trusted him. Yeah, and I think that was it. I think that was it for Brittany. Brittany, of course, was voted out at the last banishment, um, and they didn't find out Brittany was a traitor until Right, it was a traitor until the vote.

Speaker 1:

Right, it was a unanimous vote. They didn't find out she was a traitor until after they had won and and um, Alan told them, um, so, which was a vindication, of course, and I was sad. You know, big brother fan me, I mean I. It's always tough not to see a gamer win, because I'm for the gamers, because that's what we watch our games.

Speaker 1:

They got a lot of traders out uh, straight up, but I think dylan deserves. I would say dylan deserves about it is the way I would do the percentages. Dylan deserves about 70 of the credit, gabby deserves about 20 of the credit and I'll give ivar 10 and dolores just was lucky um as they showed, she went two and eight on her votes and she's supposedly a detective.

Speaker 2:

Eight wrong, not two out of eight, which would be 25, I'm talking 20 yeah, and I find out.

Speaker 1:

We find out in the reunion that happened after that she was a detective. I didn't know this.

Speaker 2:

She was a detective, I'm like really I think she was a fired detective but she, she, yeah, she, she. She was just out to get tom sandoval most of the season right, exactly, she did say that she felt she voted with her emotions many times, which, in fairness, is true I mean, look at tom.

Speaker 1:

I mean tom sandoval. Yeah, I don't care what they said in the reunion, I don't want to watch him, I'm sorry.

Speaker 2:

Based on his one other. One other thing we got out of the reunion was we got confirmation that zach efron did watch and did hear the comment he did.

Speaker 1:

He did so. The comment was bob the drag queen said that he's not talented or something as an actor, and yeah, dylan said I grew up with an actor and he said not a very good one yes, that was the comment exactly and zach heard it and he said well, he should watch baywatch. That was that. Enjoy it. That was the comeback.

Speaker 2:

He should have told him to watch Neighbors or something.

Speaker 1:

Something funnier, it's my favorite Zac Efron movie Are you kidding me? That was Seth Rogen, zac Efron, that was a great movie, my God. Oh, so good. We can talk about that another time. But comedy gold Absolutely funny, funny, funny movie. But I mean there, old, absolutely funny, funny, funny movie, um, but I mean there's a twofold reaction for me for this. Uh, for the season, I was very happy to see danielle make it as far as she did with britney. I kind of love that big brother connection, of course, um, however, I think she messed up britney's game by making her a traitor and you know um, you know I, I think she would have been better served, honestly, in that moment, murdering dylan. I told you, I told you a couple episodes back, they need to get rid of, get dylan, get rid of dylan and they, I definitely think, getting rid of dylan was was definitely the biggest mistake.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, was not getting rid of dylan not gonna? Yeah, um, but I will say, even had she not recruited britney there because of derrick's on to britney, I feel like that's what dylan went back to was the original reason was derrick thought it was. So I feel like, no matter what dylan wasn't going to go to the end of britney even if she got to let's say she got to the four instead of five I still feel like he votes. He votes red then and votes out Brittany because he's not going to the end with her so Derek really trashed Brittany's game yeah, he did, and that's how he was a detective that was on to something, except it was luck at the time.

Speaker 1:

You know, what's interesting to me here's the self-proclaimed most masterful player of Big Brother, etc. But he was almost non-existent in the season and he was non-existent in the finale. Really there wasn't much peep from him, I think. At the end of the day, I think once you're a big player in the reality space and people know your strategy and know what you do and kind of how you do it, it's very hard to overcome that knowledge of people like like austin robb and they mentioned that during the during the reunion how boston robb always goes in and and I love the fact, by the way, that they mentioned deal or no deal island in the reunion and they talked about how boston rob picks the weakest player, which he did on deal or no deal island. I forget the young man's name same thing.

Speaker 1:

Basically, the copycat dixon was a copycat of him. It's a crazy thing with casting sometimes dixon was his copycat, um, but yeah, he, he picked aaron, it was aaron. He picked aaron to go to the end, of course, and, and so I think that is rob's mo, that's what rob does, and uh, yeah you know, I mean. But after a while it kind of catches on. People catch on to it, um.

Speaker 2:

And speaking of the reunion, it was funny how they did it, because there were so many obviously starting a game with 20, and then you have three adding in. That's a lot of people. But I thought it was funny how they started with the ones from the end and they added all the traders and then they brought in the ones from the K. There were so many to keep going.

Speaker 1:

At one point I I'm like they're still missing like eight people.

Speaker 2:

Yes, they were still sitting in the back. Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 1:

So that reminded me of us, like in waiting for we are family to go. It's like, oh, we're still here at the true I. We're here, we're playing pool, we're talking and we're playing games, but we're still here. Oh man, that was my daily remind text, reminders going. You know we're still here, send um. But yeah, you're right, it was like a slow kind of trickle in um, I mean, I, I like the way they did it because, quite frankly, that was kind of the order that the audience is probably the most interested in hearing from the different participants yeah, was there anybody that showed up to the reunion that you're like?

Speaker 2:

oh yeah, I forgot you were on this season yes, um well, what wells wells wells wells was one of them. I'm like oh, I remember that guy missed wells um also the housewives, the, the, the week one.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, how sucky does is that to like get eliminated in week one? You probably don't even know what's going on in the show until you actually watch it yeah oh man, um, but you know what? What I mean, I would jump to go on that show in a second, like I would do that show in a second, like that is my favorite. We talked about this my favorite reality show by far, but yeah, I would they should do some sort of like.

Speaker 2:

I know it's done somewhere, but like interactive, Like you can go.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, that would be fun, that would be fun and be fun. And yeah, I would man, yeah, like, like, almost like an escape room, but traitors yeah exactly. The only way to escape is you play the game, and that's how you and yeah, you know, charlie, we should market that idea. Yeah, I like it.

Speaker 1:

I like it'll be fun um, so yeah, I mean so we will not see probably another season of traders until january, which, spoiled me, is kind of sad. It's bad enough. I get big brother once a year now. I have to wait once a year for traders.

Speaker 2:

Uh, hey, hey you got, you got reindeer games, so technically more than once a year. Well, they didn't do reindeer games this year, so I haven't had big brothers, since the aggregate average you get slightly more than one a year, just saying well, next year is a winter olympics and we usually get a celebrity version of big brother during the winter olympics. So there we go. Is that a? Thing?

Speaker 1:

usually it's counter programming.

Speaker 2:

Yes, oh wow, we may get a Celebrity Big Brother next year Wait. So then, what do they do during the Summer Olympics?

Speaker 1:

Big Brother regular Big Brother's on already.

Speaker 2:

Oh, okay, yeah.

Speaker 1:

They don't like to watch. It's a cheap thing, so they don't have to run their expensive programming. And I just put Celebrity.

Speaker 2:

Big Brother on.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I don't complain, I love celebrity that's how it's been the last couple of winter olympics. If it's going to be the same next year, I don't know, but um any, any inside info on any possible players in that celebrity big brother no, not yet, but basically all you have to do is look at we are family or messing, or apparently no, no, no, no.

Speaker 1:

Those are strictly fox recycled people by the way, real quick, we're not going to talk, I mean in depth, but two players on mass singer this season are andy grammer and um james vanderbeek. I mean hello.

Speaker 2:

Hopefully, as I said to you earlier, hopefully the judges just have studied we are family and then they'll do really well at guessing who the mess singers are.

Speaker 1:

Shout out to Mike, our buddy, from. We are a family. I will say I do what Mike does. I watched the recaps. I don't watch the whole episodes anymore.

Speaker 2:

So I do, is I find out who they are when you tell me who they were, that's fair enough.

Speaker 1:

Fair enough, and we will not do a recap on this show. Um, not to, you know, it's just, it's uh, I enjoy finding out who it is, but I don't need to see the whole thing, you know?

Speaker 2:

Um, anyway, anyway, um, so that is nick cannon needs to pay the bills, all right I do love nick and well, he does have a lot of children so right, that's what I was meaning old woman in a shoe, old nick cannon in a shoe, has many children, doesn't know what to do.

Speaker 1:

You like to throw back to millionaire? There you go, all right, there you go, there you go. Um, for the folks that don't know, that's the question I like almost choked on. All right, anyway, for three hundred dollars. Hey, don't know, that's the question, I almost choked on. Alright anyway, for $300.

Speaker 2:

You got it right, I did.

Speaker 1:

So Traders, that's a wrap for Traders. We will unfortunately be moving on from Traders on this podcast. They are taping the next season in May, so if we hear rumors, of course we will share that for sure. There are no confirmed uh upcoming seasons of the goat and house of villain jet, so when that comes up we will let you know we don't even have any people on the next season, do we no rumored cast mates?

Speaker 1:

not yet, although if I was to take a guess, I mean yeah, let's let's throw a couple guesses out there I don't think you're gonna see a very big brother heavy season, and that is because the amazing race is going to be taping next month a season of big brother players and their family members, the big brother player. They're basically going to be under contract with CBS, so they're not going to be on the next season of traders.

Speaker 1:

Hey, maybe there's someone who got left out of that well, there are a couple that said they couldn't do it. Amazing rings, I don't know, maybe he's gonna be busy going to court against mike biggie. Anyway, um uh he might be.

Speaker 2:

oh, he'll be locked up, never mind.

Speaker 1:

Never mind Ba-dum-bum-psh. So Survivor Last time on no wait.

Speaker 2:

Hold, on, hold, on hold on hold on hold on hold on. You interrupted and stopped with your guesses for who could be on.

Speaker 1:

Oh, let's not jump the shark.

Speaker 2:

I'm so excited to talk about Survivor. Well, me too. But really quick, I want to hear a couple of your guesses.

Speaker 1:

You said not Big Brother heavy hey, maybe we'll see Phillip Solomon from Deal or no Deal Island. He could be maybe Amy from season one of Deal or no Deal Island has Poverty played yet yes, she was in last season can't bring her back. Maybe, david or maybe david david deal in no deal island. Um, let's look at some other franchises um survivor. It would be interesting to see um carolyn's buddy play michael phelps played season one, didn't he?

Speaker 1:

uh, not michael phelps ryan? Uh, the. Didn't he Not Michael Phelps Ryan, the guy who got arrested? How about Michael Phelps? Michael Phelps could be an option.

Speaker 2:

They always have one random athlete.

Speaker 1:

What about Mary Lou Retton? I know she was sick, but maybe she's getting better and that would be kind of cool to see.

Speaker 2:

Okay, Probably some random lord from England that we don't know how about, like Terrell Owens?

Speaker 1:

oh, I'd love to. What about like LeVar Burton? I would love to see LeVar Burton. Or maybe like Cam Newton, cam Newton, I'd love to see some. We're not going to see any baseball players. If it tapes, maybe like Joel McHale.

Speaker 2:

Maybe retire Joel McHale would be fantastic.

Speaker 1:

Ken Jeong well, he's not going to see any baseball players. If it tapes me like joel mckale, maybe retire joel mckale would be fantastic ken jung well, he's not going to go on yeah he's probably a contract maybe michelle williams just name everybody who was on. We are family people michael phelps wasn't on.

Speaker 2:

We are family. No, after michael phelps I named four consecutive terrell owens what about carney wilson? Terrell owens check. Cam newton check. No, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait wait, wait to be fair.

Speaker 1:

To be fair, I wasn't technically in the studio for those people even though they may have showed me I wasn't in the studio no, that they were on. We are family, come on no, I don't remember the episodes. I'm not on. I mean, why would I do that?

Speaker 2:

you still remember the participants how, how?

Speaker 1:

gauche Participants.

Speaker 2:

How gauche, that was pretty good. I was going to continue naming them until you. Michelle Williams was just too obvious.

Speaker 1:

I should have waited. Why don't you just draw Andy Grammar in there too?

Speaker 2:

He was just mentioned. He could have worked.

Speaker 1:

What's that dude from MMA the fighter? Chuck Linnell that's what I should have said was just mentioned, because he could have worked. Uh, what's that dude from mma? That the fighter? Uh, I'm glad you got a joke out of me, thank you. I appreciate that.

Speaker 2:

Thank you, yeah okay, now you can move on to survivor. You've named a few guesses, thanks buddy.

Speaker 1:

Thank you, buddy, appreciate it so previously on survivor um, wow, can we say, say get it. Say can we say how big of a target say is putting on her back, like why? Why do you think like I'm gonna ask you a question? She's one of the cockier players I've seen in the last couple of years off the bat, yeah, or is it me? Do you see how many confessionals she's getting?

Speaker 2:

yeah, I mean she's, she's playing hard early. Yeah, people playing hard. And then who? Who was the one guy that had the conversation with her and said you think you're playing hard, but I'm playing hard? It was.

Speaker 1:

It was a weird, it was tough to follow yeah, you think you're playing, I'm playing ends up taking the boot, but kevin, by the way, who can't dive for anything, yeah people are the same dude that dislocated his shoulder in the first uh, challenge.

Speaker 2:

The people are worried again that uh, and so far it's looking that way we're at the point where it's going to be another really weak one tribe and the other two are just going to beat up on them it seems that happens most seasons.

Speaker 1:

I'm gathering because it's like one lots away.

Speaker 2:

People want two tribes. I bet you that's going to be in the next batch of questions.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

Two tribes of three.

Speaker 1:

Let me ask you a question. To that point, though, from what I've seen and mind you, I've only been back for three seasons, but usually like the winter has come out of that small group still, which is crazy. You think about last season. Usually like the winner has come out of that small group still, which is crazy. Yeah, you think about last season, the winner came out of that smaller group.

Speaker 2:

You think they're usually easier targets? Yeah, but I think A lot of the time when you know you got a tribe of six that comes in fully healthy but they're split 3-3, they want to pull that one person in to get numbers on their side.

Speaker 1:

You know what, too? I think you know you. You're together for so long without a tribal council. These feelings start to build up, Like you don't like this person and like I cannot wait to get rid of this person. And that's what happens when, like, they finally grab, are able, like you said, to grab people on other tribes and get these people that they don't like out. That's huge.

Speaker 2:

And something, another thing I want to bring up. You mentioned that it's only your third season back, but you noticed something already that is a big change in the game. They went after a relatively big target week two from their own tribe. I was gonna say what is that? And to your point, a lot of the times you think early survivor tribe strength you want to keep winning but now all of a sudden they're down two players.

Speaker 2:

Why would they get rid of kevin? Yeah, it's, it was, uh, it was a the, the pizza guy we'll call. We'll call him eric, he's gonna win. I have a feeling he's gonna win. The other guy said hey, this might be our only chance to get out kevin I think, pizza guy has a strong chance.

Speaker 2:

They got her to play her idol too, which, even though it, in hindsight, obviously is 2020, but watching that episode, you thought that she has to play it. Little does she know. She ends up getting both of them on her side and she could have snuck away without it.

Speaker 1:

But hey, to their credit, they to their credit, they fished out the idol, which is what you want to do if you know someone has it. That's a smart thing to do anyway.

Speaker 2:

Um, and to her credit, she, unlike a couple of seasons ago, she did not go home yeah, just play it safe, live to fight another day, 100% to go find it and decipher it again but I predict they're gonna lose the next chat.

Speaker 1:

I mean, they're they. I mean, why would you? And Kevin wasn't even the weakest player in the challenge. You know the challenge where they're pushing that ball right to the pressure on it. The other dude was like terrible and Kevin was so frustrated with him at one point during the challenge.

Speaker 2:

He's like you know you could see the next episode at the beginning of the challenge, when they, when he says, come on in, and then the first two tribes come in, and they say, and now you're gonna see the tribe minus, and then their reactions are gonna be crazy. This time.

Speaker 1:

I think they're gonna, they're not. They're thinking that other dude is gonna go out or say he's gonna go out, or well, they don't know the dynamics that you know what's going on at the right, they're just gonna be surprised that it's a blind side when their tribe's already shorthanded I mean, they got rid of probably their most, probably their strongest dude.

Speaker 1:

I mean, without a doubt they got rid of. So, yeah, um, and this is just the thing that is crazy about the new era is is getting rid of strong players. I I'm old school, like you keep all the strong people in until at least emerge, and then, you know, you kind of fight it out then. But okay, I don't know if I would play the game that way. I, I, you know, I think I'm thinking about you know, if I would play the game that way, I, I, you know, I think I'm thinking about you know, if I was to be fortunate enough to go on that show, I would definitely align myself with stronger players, both mentally and physically. There's two kind of veins there, but I, I would not vote them out yet, but I would definitely target them once I was able to if you were stronger than me you gotta go, you gotta go um challenge too.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, oh my god, that was not an easy challenge at all, that was it was a crazy obstacle course. They were put through first, first of all, the swimming alone. I am a swimmer. It is hard enough for me you know, being out of shape to swim in a swimming pool.

Speaker 2:

The swimming formerly out of shape for.

Speaker 1:

Well, I'm getting there 35 pounds, uh down, um. But to swim just in a swimming pool is tough, like it's a lot. It's a very cardiovascular, intensive sport. I used to do it every day, you know, as a team, but to do it in the ocean is so much harder than it is to do it in a pool. So mind you that, on top of the fact that you're throwing a giant ball across the area and you're having to balance while you're on these pontoons that are moving back and forth and bouncing and there's like there's a pit of water in between and you're both on either side and you're putting pressure, it is immensely a difficult challenge. It was incredible. It makes every big brother challenge look like patty cake.

Speaker 2:

Yeah yeah it was so hard yeah, and how about the? The? They're balancing sideways across like a, a very thin, but not normally like a normal one you'd walk across, because meanwhile they're simultaneously holding up a ball together with the end of two sticks paddles. Yeah, I mean the the green team could not do that.

Speaker 1:

They fell in a hundred times you could see visibly angst on every player's face on that team is like, and then I gotta give a shout out to mitch on that challenge.

Speaker 2:

Yes, was he five for five, granny style shooting though no, he was doing it.

Speaker 1:

He wasn't doing it this way, he was going underhanded. It was like basically great, which is perfect, it was edited, I mean, even if it wasn't.

Speaker 2:

I mean he went through that thing in no time.

Speaker 1:

You know what it is seemed like he had the pocket in his head. Once you get the pocket in your head, you're golden. Like once you kind of know where you're going and he was perfect. Like once you get that feel and he got the feel. Not that I could do it, he was nba jam heating up, where would you get the ball and it's on fire.

Speaker 2:

Wherever you shoot it from, it goes in yes, exactly.

Speaker 1:

Um. So I mean, I, I have a prediction. I I don't think it's gonna be one of the best seasons. I don't get that feeling from these players, I don't get that kind of like. At the beginning of the last season I kind of was like, oh my God, this is going to be a great season. I don't get to see.

Speaker 2:

I will say in their defense they played hard week one. They have tribal, that hard week one?

Speaker 1:

No, no, I doubt, I think personality wise that's okay, that's fair.

Speaker 2:

So yeah, so Kevin goes home. Now we're down to six. Six and four on the tribes again that's crazy.

Speaker 1:

That's crazy, um. So I I mean it's, it's a fun season. I'm looking forward to seeing where we go from here and uh, yeah, I don't know um, but yeah, I'm excited.

Speaker 2:

I I love, I love the fact that you got me back into survivoror. Yeah, me too. I'm glad you're back on it. We'll get you to watch the Carolyn and Tony season, one of these days.

Speaker 1:

Maybe I can get you to watch Amazing Race.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, maybe the Big Brother season.

Speaker 1:

I did, yeah. Well, I think we both should definitely watch the Big.

Speaker 2:

Brother season. When does that start?

Speaker 1:

It's not filming until next month and it probably will air next January, is my guess.

Speaker 2:

Oh, okay, so by the time Trader's 4 rolls around.

Speaker 1:

Yes, exactly, we'll have Amazing Race Big Brother style. Yeah, I watched, you know real quick. You know we're not going to really talk about it because you didn't watch it, but I watched the season premiere. Amazing race back we're back to. So the previous season is just for your information, for our listeners. Um, amazing race has really just been self-contained because of covid and everything, so you just have maybe south america and what we're back to traveling the world. So they went to. Hong kong was their first destination.

Speaker 1:

So yeah I'm looking forward to the rest of the season of amazing race. Uh, so let's go ahead and around to um third base and talk about dealing around the world which is filmed in panama. Yeah, there you go, there you go. It's nice transition I like that, I like it, I like it. I like it. Um deal or no deal, island, um yeah.

Speaker 2:

Six players to go at the start of the episode.

Speaker 1:

So I saw some, some deleted scenes that I sent you, yeah, and a little eyeopening to me because I didn't think that ck was as close with poverty and I know I was surprised by that as well.

Speaker 2:

They don't seem to be editing it that way which makes me a little scared next week's episode.

Speaker 1:

Not this one, but next for philip yeah, that concerns me. It does one of this one needs to win next week they said they wanted to target philip before they targeted letty um and since letty is still there, that means philip would probably be next target hopefully not hopefully he just wins the power I, I like the Letty-Philip kind of relationship and dynamic and I don't know, maybe he. I mean, we have a double elimination coming up next week. They did tease that with us.

Speaker 2:

That's right, I forgot about that.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, and I see maybe we're going to, you know, I mean, hopefully Philip can escape it. They need to get one of the two out. They need to get a the david or poverty out. I mean it has to be one.

Speaker 2:

Does that mean, if they do a double olem next week they'll only be then the week after that at? The final four or they'll eliminate one to three, and then I think we're gonna.

Speaker 1:

I think we have two episodes left, from what I'm gathering wow. So a double olem and then a double episode, and then the finale yeah, I think that's kind of where they're headed um, which would make sense, I think I don't know um. So, dixon, so rewinding the episode a little bit to talk about the fact that there was a challenge where they. You want to explain it.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, they basically well kind of like in survivor, except this time the the beam they have to tight, tight rope walk against is the thinnest thing I've ever seen in my life. And then it's like a twig. Yeah, it was like a twig. Honestly, it was crazy. I can't believe they made it more than a couple steps. But, dixon, you never want to be the one to go first, but he falls into the quicksand and he could not move.

Speaker 1:

I mean, he was instantly, it was yeah I'm sorry I shouldn't laugh, but because that would be me it was worthy of a laugh but he was literally like, stuck, like I'm stuck and David goes and goes.

Speaker 2:

You know, considering I'm an Australian survivor, I've had some experience with kickstands. So you know you just gotta go flat. And everyone knows you just go flat and just go across. And then he did it like it was nothing. And then everyone else was able, he did it like it was nothing and then, uh, everyone else was able to do it pretty much, although who was it one of them I did not think was going to make it.

Speaker 1:

And then all of a sudden, out of nowhere can we talk about ck taking that header oh yes, oh yes, yes, yes, yes, that needs to be.

Speaker 2:

Uh, they went to commercial, she, literally her legs went snap right on oh, what's the name of that show on tbs where they do the obstacle course and they just get absolutely wipe out?

Speaker 1:

yeah, that is what that was like she went through the bouncy balls.

Speaker 2:

That was oh, and they showed it and they showed a replay and then they showed a slower replay. Oh, my god, thank you, that's a that made up for a couple. I mean doesn't really make up for the cliffhangers, but it helps.

Speaker 1:

Whether they replayed that like a hundred times, they should show that you're right, though that should be absolutely a gif where it's like boom, boom. Yeah, it's so bad. Oh my god, I shouldn't laugh because it's karma, but I can't help it trying to handle all my, all my problems and work at the same time hello, yes, I understand um.

Speaker 1:

So dealing on deal island, um, I don't know. Let me be honest with you. I don't know if I would have as much interest still in it if we didn't know somebody who was on the cast still.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I'm just hoping that Philip gets some power next week, because we're down to the final five now.

Speaker 1:

Doesn't look good for him. If he doesn't, I think, if either David or Poverty get power, I think Philip and Letty are both in trouble.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, because.

Speaker 1:

CK seems like she's aligned and I really don't like CK.

Speaker 2:

She's a third wheel.

Speaker 1:

Honestly, the only move Letty could have made was to get Dixon out. She had to do that.

Speaker 2:

She had to. I stick by how she did it. She said you know, if you put me up, I'm going to get Dixon out Transparent. Like it is and she stuck by it. I'm going to get Dixon out Transparent. She's going like it is and she's stuck by it, so I applaud the game move.

Speaker 1:

I like that. You know, like you said transparent, truthful, she told it like it was Absolutely he couldn't pick Dixon.

Speaker 2:

Dixon wanted to be picked.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, he said, pick me, pick me, that's on.

Speaker 2:

David, he's got to feel it a little.

Speaker 1:

And something tells me he won't really feel it too much.

Speaker 2:

I don't think Either way he advanced another week.

Speaker 1:

He wins. It's interesting I didn't know him from Adam before this season. I don't have a VPN to watch Australian Survivor, although now I might want to do that, especially when the Australian Survivor vs the World comes out and we got our Surrey and Poverty playing that.

Speaker 2:

So yeah, can you stream that on Paramount Plus?

Speaker 1:

I don't think so, but I think we can figure out a way to. Well, I can't say that. We'll figure it out. We'll figure it out. Maybe not out, we'll figure it out. I don't, maybe not, you know, maybe I'll just see recaps, right, yeah, um, yes, yes, okay, it's, it's nobody. Um, cherry cool air quotes yay, um, strangely, I won't edit that out. Um so, all right, so we're rounding home and we have to talk about the floor.

Speaker 2:

Um, yeah, so, uh, safe to say you just want to play the clip from last week.

Speaker 1:

You can just insert it here and say another episode brian won another 20 000 basically so brian brian's up to 80 000 and I will say at least this week he kind of earned it. Um, he did earn it, but the last week he didn't hold on, hold on.

Speaker 2:

Did he earn it? Or was the randomizer all of a sudden randomly picked one of the ones that was touching him on? The last battle of the?

Speaker 1:

night, literally the only, the only I'm not saying anything is but literally the only square that he could only play.

Speaker 2:

Brian was randomized because he was in the middle of. They picked one that could play Brian we're not insinuating one that couldn't not play Brian for legal reasons.

Speaker 1:

We are not insinuating anything foul whatsoever.

Speaker 2:

Randomizer for legal reasons. We are not insinuating anything. If I'll, whatsoever randomizer.

Speaker 1:

For legal reasons, we are not assuming anything about randomizer oh god, so yes, and this dude who? Who didn't know directors very much? I mean, literally the first director that pops up there is Steven Spielberg, the first two. He even took a minute for Alfred Hitchcock, like really.

Speaker 2:

Really that was a tough look for him.

Speaker 1:

Brian. I mean I got disappointed because I think if it went further, with the guy actually naming some, we might have gotten to Kevin Smith, which would have been funny if Brian said Kevin Smith, which I would have kind of loved that.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, we didn't get to see another like 10 or 12 at least that we could have, because he was so bad.

Speaker 1:

So bad. Uh, so yes, brian did win another 20 grand, but his category now but you're right, he earned it.

Speaker 2:

He earned it. But now he picked and the first guy didn't know the three most famous directors in the human history. And before Brian had to say a word, the other guy was at like 27 seconds already. I mean, come on, was that not the most gift-wrapped win on the history of the floor you've ever witnessed?

Speaker 1:

It was. But I will say this I agree with you, but look at the category he has now. He has a rodeo, yeah.

Speaker 2:

Hey, he said he studies it, which makes sense because rodeo had he.

Speaker 1:

Hey, he said he studies it, which makes sense, because how do you study rodeo? I mean, I understand surrounded by brian listen I mean, one is going to be a horse, one's going to be a rodeo clown, one's going to be a barrel saddle yeah yeah, exactly, I mean it's not that difficult.

Speaker 2:

It's going to be like. It's going to be like the kentby one was.

Speaker 1:

Which was, I mean, god mint julep. I mean, come on, I mean, when they showed Churchill Downs and the dude was just looking at it, I'm like it's Churchill Downs where the freaking race takes place. Now, mind you, my dad.

Speaker 2:

That was yet another one where the player completely zoned out, didn't notice his turn, and sometimes the audience said something and he was like, right, uh, uh, pass, now I have to.

Speaker 1:

So much time wasted I have to admit my dad, I growing up my dad was hugely into horse racing, so much so. So I knew like almost every single one of those. I mean we still go every weekend to belmont and aqueduct in new york and I mean I've lived at the racetrack as a kid. Whether that was healthy or not is another story, but um, yeah, I, I, I was like men drew up, I was like derby hat, I was like I was like as fast as I could. And then when I got to churchill downs, I'm like dude, really, I mean it's pretty iconic of a place. So louisville, louisville, like yeah, even kentucky. I was like really man, like really you don't know, like where.

Speaker 2:

So yeah, but people won't remember that because they'll just remember steven spielberg and oh, that was just just so, that was that is true I felt, but honestly I felt bad for the guy it was.

Speaker 1:

That was rough but there were some duels that I think both like both of us would have done really well on tv. Moms and dads, those two categories I think both of us would have kind of kicked butt on and there was another category early in the episode that they crushed it.

Speaker 2:

I mean, they got like almost every one right back and forth. I can't remember which one it was I don't remember offhand either it was a battle. Yeah, because there was eight different ones from this each episode but collect collectibles I loved, I mean that's the one I wanted to talk about Collectibles. I have never had a more satisfying hate watch category than watching him lose his collectibles. Oh yes, oh, my God, rooting against him Me too. Oh hard, I'm sorry.

Speaker 1:

What a cocky ass yeah.

Speaker 2:

For three episodes. At least two. Come on, dude on, dude, come on. This is my category. I know it better than anybody and, oh man, I was nervous for a little bit that I was that she wasn't going to pull it off did you see his fucking? Started. She said. Nothing will make me happier than beating him in his own category, and oh that was just so satisfying.

Speaker 1:

Did you see his face walking off that stage when he lost? He?

Speaker 2:

could not he reggie miller did it.

Speaker 1:

He couldn't believe it, but let me say this from a perspective of you and he did absolutely choke. He he's charlie is pointing to the choke it you and I have again and we're self-grandizing and I'm self-grandizing. I won't say that for Charlie, I am. We were both on, we Are Family. We were both in the presence of other contestants for a long, extended period of time filming a game show. How annoying do you have to be for people to actually go on camera and say I want to get rid of you for?

Speaker 2:

a game show, and other people were openly rooting against him before it started too.

Speaker 1:

You guys don't understand when, and necessarily if you haven't been on, but when the cameras are off, we're just hanging out at a hotel and enjoying each other's company. There's no competition. We not at least I speak for the true crew we're not hating on each other, we're just really getting to know each other and hanging out Like spouses would come into town. I met Rosie and I met uh, um, um, oh I. I hate having a brain fart, but you know what I'm talking about husband, it's just that's what it's about. So, for somebody and we had yes, he was and since I have somebody, I was going to talk to you offline about that. I'm not saying another word, but I agree, charlie just texted me something and I'm not going to repeat it.

Speaker 2:

Possible deniability.

Speaker 1:

Possible deniability. But I absolutely agree with you, buddy, talk about it. But to have people not like you and we, you know there might have been a contestant or two that rubbed people, rightly so, the wrong way, because they were let's say yeah, Steve from Collectibles.

Speaker 2:

Yes, like Steve in Collectibles, so how bad is it that that was a great category, by the way.

Speaker 1:

It was. I mean listen, I Listen. It was an easy category, you're showing stamps and coins what? Was the third one. What was it? You don't remember.

Speaker 2:

Baseball cards no.

Speaker 1:

The third one. Can you explain it? I don't know. I don't remember a crap like you do. Why would I?

Speaker 2:

be asking you.

Speaker 1:

Hats? Why is would I be asking you Hats? Why is he asking me what? Oh, music CDs. What's my head doing? Your head banging?

Speaker 2:

Okay, but you tap it and then it oh, bobbleheads, there we go.

Speaker 1:

See how slow I am. What is going on with me, mind you folks?

Speaker 2:

I'm going to tell you straight up it's 2.30.

Speaker 1:

It's 2.13 Eastern Time.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

I mean, come on, so it is. Yeah, it's a quarter after two in the morning, it was a good category. But yes, bobblehead, I mean I and and they showed weird bobbleheads, but okay, yeah, I mean it was like yeah, like the knockers, like the, yeah, like the old I have I have. I have a couple of those actually, um, interesting, um, but yeah, I, I'm more so for the person to get eliminated. I, I was like I just watching it on tv for five minutes.

Speaker 2:

I'm like, oh, this guy was annoying as hell to be around for yeah, I was running against him last week before he even got to go.

Speaker 1:

I mean, I guess he got his tv time, as I don't know if I want to be portrayed as a total ass, but okay, but yes to your off-screen point. Absolutely, and that's all I'll say.

Speaker 2:

And Brian wins again, he's up to 80K.

Speaker 1:

Yep and he lives to see another day and he's up to 12 pieces Is he going to do?

Speaker 2:

you think he plays?

Speaker 1:

one or two more to go for the time boost again. Well, I mean, they did preview, I will tell you. They previewed, like in the beginning, that someone gets up to $120,000 just from daily.

Speaker 2:

So he's got to win two more.

Speaker 1:

He's got to win two more, I mean it's great spoiled, yeah yeah.

Speaker 2:

So that means that I mean he's got lots of choices. Let's be honest it makes sense for him to win two more battles, get the time boost and then go back to the floor, take a knee again it does Defend rodeo.

Speaker 1:

Listen, I mean, if you have all that money on the line, I'm going back to my hotel room and studying, like everything Having to do with rodeo.

Speaker 2:

So he might not need to. He's already got 80. He's about to get 120, so he's gonna end up with half of what the winner gets.

Speaker 1:

He basically has what Adam on we Are Family got and he really almost didn't have to do anything to get it he also has. Adam was our biggest winner everybody won on the traders yeah, which is crazy.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, what a small like I know I I wanted to mention that that they need to do something about increasing that.

Speaker 1:

They're probably four people is what I think they get a base just to go on, because they're kind of celebrities.

Speaker 2:

A couple thousand a week and then a couple hundred per diem.

Speaker 1:

Going back to Amazing Race real quick. So they did a fork in a road I'm mentioning this for a specific reason. They did a fork in a road where they would have two parallel races ending, where they would have two winners and then two people that go home. The two winners each winner, you get a prize, usually when you win your leg on the amazing race. The prize this week to win on the amazing race $3,000.

Speaker 2:

Wow Big money.

Speaker 1:

I did that in 20 minutes on trivial pursuit. I didn't have to run across Hong Kong. It's all about perspective, right yeah?

Speaker 2:

exactly.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, just it, that's it. It's so funny, yeah, but yeah, so real quick. Spring training is going on.

Speaker 2:

How are the Cubs doing?

Speaker 1:

Pretty well, they're one week away from leaving for Japan To start the season and then to come back to spring training again. But yeah, I'm seeing places to go to watch the game in person like tickets and stuff.

Speaker 2:

I saw one advertisement, one advertisement their watch party somewhere. You're going at 6 am in florida. What do you think? No, I think you'll be sleeping.

Speaker 1:

I just like two hours yeah, you should talk I get more sleep than you, I think uh, I, you know, sometimes I think you're up at like four o'clock in the morning, sleep texting Sometimes, yeah. But yeah, you're right, you probably do get a little bit more sleep than I do, because I wake up and there are texts in the morning. You're usually up before me sometimes. But yeah, I mean I'm excited for are we going tonight? We're going tonight's, today's Friday, I'm excited for tonight. We're going. Today's Friday, we're going to see the Mets and the Nationals play and it's a bobblehead is it an evening game or a day game?

Speaker 1:

it's an evening game, 6.05 interesting spring training night game. Nice, which city it's in West Palm. Thank god it's the closest one, because I don't like driving at night. I don't know if you know that about me.

Speaker 2:

How far does that drive?

Speaker 1:

55 minutes about.

Speaker 2:

Oh, that's, nothing Okay. I mean on the way home, at least at that hour.

Speaker 1:

It's straight, it's straight up 95. It's not too bad. Um, yeah, um, it's actually the closest park to us. You have, uh, west Palm, jupiter, port st lucie and on sunday we're going to port st lucie, uh, to see the mets. Um, I forgot who they're playing, but it's a bobblehead, not a bobblehead, a rally towel giveaway. But uh, yes, hoping to get cj abrams bobblehead today, and if I do, one is yours, I will send it to you and uh, two promo spring training games.

Speaker 1:

That's pretty pretty good odds I didn't know spring training games did that that often you know, I in the past I haven't really seen it, which is interesting. Um, they have a couple. I have done a couple in the past, but they've never been huge. You know prizes that they give away. They usually kind of like the riley towel, frankly. Um, so to get bobbleheads, I think when I'm gathering from seeing the advertisement I think these are national bobbleheads that they just didn't have enough people coming to the park to give away.

Speaker 2:

No, I think you're right. I think they're the same ones from last season.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, so.

Speaker 2:

They probably just made way more than they expected, or they purposely did it to give away at spring training.

Speaker 1:

Listen, I'm not. So. The CJ Abrams one, I think, is the best one of the bunch. That.

Speaker 2:

CJ Abrams will always have a place in my heart because I know you remember the story. No, tell it, tell it. I was, I was. We were going to the Cubs Nationals game and he wasn't in the lineup for some reason. We didn't really know, and the story broke in the seventh inning during the game that he was out at the casino the night before in chicago. So I'm I mean now forever. Literally the story breaks the game. We're playing them while he's benched like.

Speaker 1:

That's something you'll remember, so by the way, speaking of chicago real quick, did you get that homage shirt that I sent you for Ted Lasso?

Speaker 2:

I actually did, had already seen that email. I did not get one yet. Just yet, I had just ordered a Rex and one front one from them.

Speaker 1:

So that shirt is sick.

Speaker 2:

It's sure there's a Miami one too, yeah.

Speaker 1:

Miami one. So, yeah, that's cool, all right. So do you have anything else you want to talk about?

Speaker 2:

Oh, we're just getting close to baseball season.

Speaker 1:

Can't wait. Mets and Marlins have an exhibition game coming up in a couple of weeks, when you're in Arizona and I'm in New York and the Mets are opening up against the Washington Nationals. No, the Mets are opening up against the Houston Astros in Houston and the Cubs are opening up in a couple of weeks in Tokyo against the Dodgers.

Speaker 2:

Who are they opening up against home? What's that?

Speaker 1:

Who are the Cubs opening up at home, their home opener?

Speaker 2:

Their home opener isn't until Early April that is against San Diego. Okay, the. Padres the Cubs go to Arizona and then Oakland, while Sacramento Interesting the Mets are going to Sacramento too.

Speaker 2:

Early in the season, Early yeah, which is weird because it's really the only West Coast team they're playing at that time the Cubs at that time eight games before they've played at wrigley even though I think the mets are like that too even though technically the two games in japan are home games I think we share that, though the mets, I think, are opening the same time as the cubs at home. I think we're on that same track yeah, you guys play two series away and then home I really have had.

Speaker 1:

Have had the itching to travel a little bit and I'm bummed that we're not playing you guys for a while, because I would have, would have been easy.

Speaker 2:

Uh oh, let's go to chicago there's always the brewers or the white socks that's true.

Speaker 1:

I looked at the schedule um, the mets are going to be, like I said, in sacramento. They're going to be in um houston, uh, I think they're going to be in, uh, st louis, st louis, um, st louis is drivable, I know, I know, but do we really want to go to bush stadium?

Speaker 2:

only if you've never been, I mean it's, I mean I've never been.

Speaker 1:

But seeing the mats is seeing the the Mets, it's true, but yeah, I guess they're not, as I don't know. Well, we'll talk, all right. So have a great week, buddy, you too. You too. Thank you, buddy. This has been Around the Bases, the pop culture and sports podcast, with your host, charlie Seymour, and I'm Tim Sternberg. Until next week, everybody, have a great week, play ball and let's go. Mets and cubs. Bye, everybody.

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