Around the Bases: Pop Culture and Sports Podcast
Around the Bases: Pop Culture and Sports Podcast
Around the Bases 2.12: Bobbleheads, Betrayals, & Baseball: The Ultimate Sports & Pop Culture Mashup!
The crack of the bat, the roar of the crowd—baseball season is finally here, and we couldn't be more excited! As the Mets wrap up their spring training with a game against the Yankees, we break down the final roster decisions teams are making across the league. We're particularly thrilled about Hayden Senger, who was bagging groceries just months ago and now finds himself making the Mets roster as a backup catcher—these are the stories that make baseball special.
Speaking of special moments, Charlie's heading to Arizona to catch the Cubs in their opening series against the Diamondbacks, while I'm potentially catching Yankees-Brewers at Yankee Stadium. There's something magical about the start of baseball season, when hope springs eternal and every team theoretically has a shot at October glory. We share our predictions, expectations, and the pure joy of returning to ballparks after the long winter.
The reality TV landscape continues to deliver alongside America's pastime. Deal or No Deal Island reaches its climactic finale with contestants Lete and David competing for what's been teased as over $5 million—the largest prize in television history. Meanwhile, Survivor features one of the earliest tribe swaps ever, completely reshuffling the game and leading to a perfectly executed blindside at tribal council. We analyze how trust remains the ultimate currency in these social strategy games, much like how team chemistry can make or break a baseball club's season.
Whether you're a die-hard baseball fanatic counting down to Opening Day or a reality TV enthusiast dissecting every strategic move on Survivor, this episode has something for everyone. Join us as we celebrate the return of baseball and break down the most exciting moments in pop culture this week. Subscribe now and let us know which teams you're rooting for this season!
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Welcome to Around the Bases the pop culture and sports podcast with your host, charlie.
Speaker 2:Seymour.
Speaker 1:And I'm Tim Sternberg. Hit it, nick. Welcome back to another episode of around the bases, the pop culture and sports podcast. Charlie, how you doing, buddy, I'm doing great. How you doing, I'm great, dude, I'm still glowing. Over the last, our last episode with the great nicholas pepin from pop culture roulette, we had such a great conversation about baseball. It made me laying my spirits up getting ready for this awesome season.
Speaker 1:I mean, we are literal days away as we're recording this episode, the Mets played their last spring training game against the Yankees in Port St Lucy. Today they're on their way to Houston. Interestingly enough, they are taking players that might not make the majors to houston and they're making the decision in houston on the roster.
Speaker 2:So a last minute wow, you never know, honestly, someone could get hurt the next couple days. You know a lot of things could change one real bright spot, and in real quick.
Speaker 1:Hayden sanga is looks like he's gonna finally make the team as a backup catcher because of Francisco Alvarez being out sick, and I think that's awesome. I think that's awesome. This kid was basically over the winter working at a grocery store bagging groceries and he has been in the majors and the minors for several years and he has a great arm. He could really throw out a player at second, so I'm excited for him to kind of that's a cool story.
Speaker 1:I always like to hear those kind of stories and just see the story of you know, I'm not neither one of us are big yankee fans but a young man being called up uh to the yanes JC I forget his last name. He is from Hialeah, which is local to me here in South Florida, and I just I love the fact. I always love it when they're calling hey, mom, you know what? Because you think about it, right, you know. I mean the Little League and all the stuff that it takes to get up to the Major League level and all of that, that blood, sweat and tears and the emotions of calling your parents and saying I made it. I'm sure that's probably one of the best feelings in the world.
Speaker 2:Yeah, definitely, definitely. Yeah, that's really cool. You love hearing those kind of stories around the league A lot of teams are making their final roster decisions. It's interesting that you said that the Mets are bringing some along to Houston that are still to be determined.
Speaker 1:Akuna is one of them to be determined. They're not sure how they're going to go with second base. They're thinking possibly a platoon of Akuna and Beatty.
Speaker 2:I saw that Beatty having a nice spring Beatty is really. Another homer the other day.
Speaker 1:But you know, that's the thing with Beatty. That's my concern. Yeah, he hit another homer. My concern is Beatty's always great in spring training and in triple a, but when he gets up to the majors I don't know what it is.
Speaker 2:Nerves kick in or something happens and I think maybe the things finally clicked another year another year I hope so.
Speaker 1:I always I want my players to be successful. I akuna is the opposite. Akuna um really excels in the majors but he just doesn't have the energy in spring training in the minor. He doesn't take it seriously, he doesn't like he, I saw.
Speaker 2:I saw lynn, was that lindor who was quoted talking about that?
Speaker 1:yeah, and also also the manager um mendoza said that too. I mean, wow, that's you know you gotta take it always here. You gotta always know that you know they're watching you um what's, uh?
Speaker 2:what's the status on on my guy, ronnie mauricio? Is he still injured or?
Speaker 1:yeah, he's still injured, and and and canario uh, another one of your guys I know he's crushing it, but they're not. I don't think there's gonna be a roster spot for him, bro. I think they're gonna have to do waivers with him, which sucks because just for our audience. I know, you know this, but you know canaria was with the cubs and he just has not been able to break into the majors and you know he's really crushing it now, but it's, you know I.
Speaker 2:I'm sure some team will pick him up or something will happen but yeah, he, he needs, he needs reps, he needs to play every day exactly and you'd love me and you'd love to carry him as a fifth outfielder with that kind of power.
Speaker 1:But a lot of these then we don't have a backup shorts, we don't have a backup infielder. If we do that, you know it's like you pay peter to you know you Rob Peter to pay Paul. So the sort of thing. So right. But I like Canario very much, I'm. I can't believe that. You know well, he was in that trade, wasn't he in that trade with Tucker Kyle Tucker to Houston and then Houston.
Speaker 2:No, no, no, no, because of tucker yeah, exactly they needed to open up a 40-minute spot. And then I mean where he, our off-field is insanely crowded, there's no, yeah not with.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you have a with p crow and with hap and I mean yeah, no, you talker suzuki I mean you have stars, you have, you have gold glovers, like I, I would legit say each one of the cubs, uh, outfielders are, or I mean when we know he and hat, I mean that are gold glovers or potentially say as say, his defense has slightly declined in the majors.
Speaker 2:But he was a two-time gold lover in in japan.
Speaker 1:So and p crow.
Speaker 2:I mean he's awesome, he really is yeah so We've had this discussion Live and in the flesh in just a couple days.
Speaker 1:You are. You are. Charlie is going with Rosie to Arizona to see the Diamondbacks take on his Cubbies in their opening series. Of course not the Cubs opening series, because they had that already. We like to call it domestic opening day, the domestic opening day, yeah, so I mean, have you been to that stadium before?
Speaker 2:I have. Actually I have myself, rosie has not, but I have that.
Speaker 1:So rosie, it'll be new for rosie it'll be her first first time there.
Speaker 2:Um, I actually, the time I went to arizona was I was. It was way back in the day, I think, probably around give or take eighth grade and carlos zambrano was starting for the cubs, oh wow and it was the game where the first base I've robbed him of a legit shot at a perfect game. He took the perfect game into the eighth inning and it was a swinging butt up the third base line. Aramis, what a game to be at I know, aramis made a bear one-handed.
Speaker 2:Bare hand throw nailed him at first. They called him safe and it ruined everything what a freaking game to be at yeah, it was a great game so where did the diamondbacks you know?
Speaker 1:for those, including myself that don't know, do they play in phoenix?
Speaker 2:is that okay in phoenix? Yeah?
Speaker 1:okay, that's. That's awesome. Yeah, that's not at the top of my list, but I would love to. I've never been arizona, so I would definitely love to go there at some point um yeah, speaking of opening day, I will be in new york the end of this week when the yankees host the brewers at yankee stadium.
Speaker 2:I'm not sure I'm going yet but it's, it's being talked about, it's debated it's debated why.
Speaker 1:Uh, erica is coming up to new york me, so we are having those conversations.
Speaker 2:Even if you only go for four or five innings, it's freaking $70 a ticket to go for five innings. Okay, then go for seven. I mean I can hop on a train.
Speaker 1:It's not bad. It's not like I'm driving out of there.
Speaker 2:You do one of two things you either go early to get more time at the park to leave early, or you know you just say we'll get there, we'll let traffic clear in. You show up like bottom one when it's a little less empty and then you take a few extra minutes after the game to walk around. Like you can get around that.
Speaker 1:How crazy, though, that it's literally like my least favorite American League team and one of my least favorite National League teams.
Speaker 2:Theoretically speaking from a Brewers I'm sorry from a Mets fan standpoint and a Cub fans standpoint, you can go and root for a fellow NL playoff contending team to pick up an.
Speaker 1:L. I would still root for the Brewers over the Yankees.
Speaker 2:You can't do that to our teams. I know the Yankees mean nothing in the American League. You can root for the Yankees to lose the other 100 and.
Speaker 1:Alright, I'll root for the Yankees. Oh God.
Speaker 2:I can't believe it's sacrilege.
Speaker 1:It's sacrilege, but I know we gotta make up. The Cubs are on two. We need we need the Brewers to lose. Well, the Brewers have a very good chance.
Speaker 2:They have a good chance to play the Dodgers. Wait, wait, wait.
Speaker 1:As long as Reese Hoskins does well, cause he is on my fantasy team.
Speaker 2:Okay, so Yankees, yankees win five, four, reese Hoskins on the homer.
Speaker 1:Okay, there you go. We'll shake on it yeah.
Speaker 2:Perfect, do you?
Speaker 1:have any.
Speaker 2:Yankees on your team.
Speaker 1:Uh um no, I don't think I do no. I think no, I don't know, I don't think I do no.
Speaker 2:Bellinger for you.
Speaker 1:I don't think I have Bellinger. I do have a lot of Cubs, um funny, not really funny Cause I, because I mean I love that team, uh, but I have a lot of I have happer, I have um p crow um, oh man, you've got two-thirds of the outfield.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I know what we were just talking about it I know how good your outfield is, dude, I know I also have, uh, mark vientos, and I have, you know, I mean I have some mets, um, and I have a good collection. Oh, you do have a yankee, you do have some Mets, I have a good collection.
Speaker 2:Oh, you do have a Yankee. Oh who do I have, you have Volpe.
Speaker 1:Oh, Volpe, Volpe yeah. Erica is telling me she thinks I do have a Yankee, so yeah, thank you for that yeah. Volpe.
Speaker 2:You also have a Red Sox issues.
Speaker 1:Who do I have a red socks bregman? Oh yeah, I knew I had him. I, I, I figured it was okay, since he's not on the astros anymore. You know, it's funny. I, I actually I think it was erica was just referring to is I do have autographed Yankee current Yankee memorabilia. I have a signed bat by Aaron Boone.
Speaker 2:He's a manager, though, so you get a pass.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I can't get it. I can't. I don't, do not have any signed. Aaron judge anything, don't worry.
Speaker 2:Um, hey, that's not a worry. That'd be cool if you had it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it would be, but I I can't afford. Aaron judge, it's up there with Trotty, it's up, it's up there. Um, so that is baseball. We're excited. Opening day is this week. Uh, you know, potentially we might be going to opening days in the opposite coast and uh, yeah, it's awesome.
Speaker 2:What time is that potential game? 4 o'clock Eastern oh, midday Okay.
Speaker 1:Yeah, which is nice because, honestly, no one wants to be taking the subway at 11 o'clock from the Bronx. Yeah, that's nice. So, yeah, I'm kind of excited about that. They're not doing any giveaways, but, yeah, what do I buy? I have to buy something. What do I? I don't like. What do I buy? Like I have to buy something. What do?
Speaker 2:I, I don't know. I'll get you a souvenir cup. Yeah, he's got a free cup. You'll find something else you can. You can find one of those, uh, credit cards and not that I would condone this. But you do one of the fake signups and then, yeah, that's true, and I'll get a free soda from budweiser because I don't drink alcohol, so they yeah, there you go.
Speaker 1:All right, that is first base. We, you know, uh, folks, uh, we, we are a baseball-heavy podcast. We love baseball, charlie and I, and we'll be talking baseball every episode now that the season is going happily. So, yes, that is our baseball segment. Thanks again to Nicholas Pepin last week from Pop Culture Roulette for an awesome, great preview special and go Angels and go Cubs andints and that's those are the teams that we're rooting for absolutely um.
Speaker 1:So, speaking of second base, let's go and talk about a show that this week, um is having its finale and that is tomorrow. Tonight, as we have it, the finale is tonight. This is being released on Tuesday, so Deal or no Deal Island is the finale is tonight. I do have a couple of things to say prior to talking about the episode. Joe Manganiello was on the Kelly Clarkson show today and mentioned that the season trailer before the season started had mentioned that this player wins over five million dollars, so whoever it is will win a lot of money. It's not really a spoiler because it's out there, um so, wow, um, the most money in tv history. However, they did not know about beast games, so I have a feeling it's not anymore. Yeah, um, which is funny, um, or broadcast tv history.
Speaker 2:I guess they could say um, and at the time, at the time it was filmed, beast games just did it faster I will not say this to you.
Speaker 1:Um, I'll just kind of allude to it there. I know who wins because some of the freaking trailers have basically showed it. So yeah, and I'm not happy about that. Nbc, we can't spoil the show. I want to. We want to enjoy it. So yeah, but I do know who wins.
Speaker 2:Well it's, you got a 50, 50 gas, even if you didn't.
Speaker 1:I'm rooting for Letty letty. I love letty I you know I've been rooting for her the entire time. David is the other player. He has played on australian survivor. Um not sure how he I think he won this season.
Speaker 2:I'm not he did, he did, yeah, he's considered. He's considered like the greatest australian survivor player ever.
Speaker 1:I think, listen, I get it, I can. He is very, very well, he obviously physically, but very, very good with the social game. Oh my god, the dude is a master. You know it's social manipulation and the social game. So yeah, I mean I would model my game off of him if I were lucky enough to go on a reality show, which hopefully in the future, who knows? Um, but yeah, I would. So I wanted to preface talking about the episode before that. So you want to kind of go into the episode and kind of tell us yeah, so so it started with picking up from the previous cliffhanger.
Speaker 2:They hadn't even played the banker yet. So poverty plays the banker. Long story short she makes a bad deal when she got a terrible opening offer because she got rid of a bunch of the high ones right away and then by the end of it it was a 50 50 shot and they literally offered her one extra dollar, and it was potluck it was exactly.
Speaker 1:It was a coin toss yeah, I mean, it was basically one of the situations where there was absolutely nothing she could have done in that situation, except you know, gone the other way, but you don't know. So in that situation she made the best.
Speaker 2:She didn't do anything game-wise, that cost her the game and that's that's one of the complaints about that show that people have well, there's lots of complaints about the show and we've had lots of them. We've given them, and here's another one. Um, they continue. I don't know why so many shows continue to do this, but why do they all feel the need to have to bring back all the players who've been eliminated and then make them have some sort of like I'm okay with it for them voting, like in survivor in the jury, like you know that that's part of the game, but like for some of these other ones, like so the goat did it recently also. I remember, like I don't ask the villains house of like I feel like it's kind of like the same over and over.
Speaker 1:But so here's the thing, here's what I think. I have a theory, because, because, deal or no deal, island, unlike big brother, unlike survivor, doesn't have a jury voting and it's kind of a different format. I think the producers probably feel like that's the best way to bring it full circle. And the idea is that you're playing the social game, social game, social game, and if you messed, if, for lack of a better term fucked somebody over, I'm sorry, I can't think of another term, but if you did that, then it should cost you something as far as the game goes. And so this particular game that you're alluding to with the bridge um, it brings that element in. Like, well, if I screwed you over, then you know you're not gonna help me and I.
Speaker 1:I think there's something to that that's justifiable in doing it.
Speaker 2:I I understand the why. It's more of to to play devil's advocate, the same point you're making. They did screw that person over, but that was part of the game and they successfully advanced in said game. So now that's almost like they're being penalized later for something that they even though we might not agree with what they did to the name of the game it was a successful move, if that makes sense.
Speaker 1:That does make sense. But to that argument I will say this when you when let's go. I'll take Survivor as an example. Right, in Survivor, there's a lot of screwing over going on. The jury votes at the end.
Speaker 2:You, you know that does factor into the vote though and right, I mean it does either they know that when they're doing it and big brother same thing um yeah so in these situations that it's not, it's not kind of the same um you know rules, so to speak, like there's no, so they don't know offhand that this.
Speaker 1:You're saying that because they don't. They might not be aware that this is going to happen, so they may not tailor their game that way.
Speaker 2:Right, exactly. Maybe they'd play it a little differently if they knew that they were going to.
Speaker 1:That's fair. Yeah, I get what you're saying.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's fair yeah, just it's kind of like a penalty almost it's kind of uh unknowingly, they're getting the penalty it's kind of shady.
Speaker 1:You know the way that happens. Yeah, you know weird, I, I get it. Yeah, I mean, although we don't know technically what, you know, you and I know that before you do a game or game show, the rules are laid out to us. So what's happened? So we don't know if that specifically was laid out I mean it probably is. I'm gonna guess in the rules somewhere that you know producers reserve the right to bring back eliminated players. You know in the perfect. You know, you know blah, blah, blah totally I get what you're saying yes, they did um.
Speaker 2:That's a great example of of them doing that um and that's also a great example of that messing people up the. That's also a great example of that messing people up the answer, if they like them or not.
Speaker 1:That's messed up, but you know same thing to your point. This semi-final of Deal or no Deal Island. Literally they, you know one player knew how much monies were in the cases so that they could lead them. You know, australia or not?
Speaker 2:So who gets eliminated?
Speaker 1:ck I was happy, dude. I was very happy because I didn't want her to win at all see.
Speaker 2:This is where. This is where it brought back to how we started off, where, yes, I'm also rooting for letty to win, but I'm not going to be upset if dav won, whereas I would have been upset had CK won. So we're at a point now where I'm happy with either way, but I still would prefer Letty to win, since he hasn't won.
Speaker 1:But you know what Murphy's Law and we went through this last season it's always the other person who I'm not rooting for that wins. So who knows?
Speaker 2:Those two, phillip and Parv. Those were the only four that I actually was like I would like to see Quinn. And then everyone else I was like eh.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I was. You know what I mean. I honestly was. I'm going to be honest with this this season, you didn't want Poverty to win.
Speaker 1:I know, no, I love Poverty here. Poverty to win, I know, no, I, I love poverty. Here's the thing. I didn't want her to win because she's already won and I like other people to have that opportunity. I don't think, I don't, I don't, I don't give her any discount and she's a fantastic player. She plays, she played. She's one of my favorite survivor players. She's from back when I was watching the show. I love poverty. I've always loved poverty.
Speaker 1:Um, I loved her with sandra and that kind of little thing that they had to and they brought on to the traitors. You know, they back and forth a little bit. They were on all stars together, I believe, a survivor, um, so I like kind of that she, she don't, she don't mess around. You know what I mean? Like in in the way, she was a black widow when she won her season and uh, yeah, she's good, she's good, um, am I saying anything incorrect? Because my memory is not great, okay, good, good, I just want to make sure you're right on it. But you know, I, I, but for this season, you know, I was rooting for our guy philip. I and you were too, I know, of course, and that's kind of what, and I don't like the way, necessarily, she played with phil, if that makes sense Totally.
Speaker 1:And it kind of irritated me a little bit and I almost feel like an older brother for him and I was like no, don't do that to Philip. And even though we were not that close at all, but I mean, we actually know the dude, you know, and so you know we had vested interests, I was excited for the season we are family after all, we are family interest. I was excited for the season we are um yeah.
Speaker 2:So I I mean, I mean I'm happy that he won the money that 75 of course. Yeah, that almost felt like justice absolute justice.
Speaker 1:And, uh, listen, if, if you, if you said, hey, tim, I'm gonna give you 75 grand, I'd be very happy and I would leave the island. No problem, bro, um, erica, I'm coming home with 75 g's, whatever, um, so yeah, so ck gets eliminated. It's because of time. She, she doesn't have, she has a, she was last place.
Speaker 2:Right, it's a significant margin a real, significant.
Speaker 1:Frankly, it wasn't that close you know, I told you last week or the week before she reminds she's the amy of the season for me. I mean she's like that character.
Speaker 2:There was like a two minute spread between david and letty and it was like another five minutes for a third. After that's pathetic, come on that's so pathetic and I liked I and of course you knew they tried to build up the suspense oh, you remember first and then, do you remember? It was like 902, and then hers was like 1354.
Speaker 1:I was like oh god that was like 60 worse it reminded me of last season's final uh challenge, when they were boston, rob was running in and amy was running in and they did the cliffhanger and we didn't know kind of where that was headed. It just reminded me of yeah, I actually like that challenge better than this one. They played this challenge in last season, but it was a little earlier. I think it was the episode before it, right, or the episode after they did play this challenge yeah because the last challenge was that challenge.
Speaker 1:But they said, basically they're going to determine the winner here. You know who has the highest amount, or maybe it was. They just eliminated that last challenge altogether and they just combined the whole.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it takes the third place out and then be able to see, but then, as usual, cliffhanger, so so yeah, we're going to find out to tonight who wins deal or no deal Island.
Speaker 1:We will talk about it next week. Next week's episode is going to be a little later than usual because we're both traveling, but we will definitely get that out. Anything else you want to mention regarding Deal or no Deal Island?
Speaker 2:No, I think you had a good segue into Third Base, where they were talking about you know, would you go for X amount of money and then just leave right away in the floor? That's exactly what one of the guy's strategies was. He said I told my wife, if I got a shot at going for 20, I'm going for 20. You know, I would do the same thing. He jumped right into it and then quickly fell off the cliff.
Speaker 1:No disrespect, but goodbye, he, just he went bye-bye. Um, but yeah, I mean, I don't know, dude, I I would. Here's what I would do. I would go for the 20 g's if I'm fairly confident in the category and or I felt like the person who was holding the category maybe they inherited it right wasn't?
Speaker 2:that just pretty important there, yeah or how long they've had.
Speaker 1:If they've had just got the category and they didn't have off time in between tapings to study, I might be going after them if I felt like that was a rather strong sitting on that for multiple days, maybe wait and pick someone else so we've called it.
Speaker 1:by the way, a couple episodes ago we called that rodeo category exactly what it was going to be the bell buckle, the artist. It was exactly. I was like, oh, this is nothing, I mean, okay, rodeo. I think they need to start. I have a criticism. I think they need to start getting a little more creative with the categories and I think it's getting really boring to see just pictures of random objects. It kind of is kind of blah.
Speaker 2:That same conversation came up while we were watching the same episode. Yeah, they need more. They need another one. Is they need more of a definitive what is right and what is wrong? Because sometimes they take like part of an answer and accept it and sometimes they don't like a perfect example when they got to the crayon color one which, by the way, oh my god, that was such an easy category.
Speaker 1:How did she miss some of those? But? And you could just say yellow, red, boo.
Speaker 2:I mean, there's strategy to that right, and that's where, exactly where I was going with that. The macaroni answer yeah, they didn't accept mac and cheese.
Speaker 1:Come on but like for other ones, they didn't have to say like they just need to get more consistent with that because, honestly, everyone I don't know anybody who says macaroni and cheese everyone says mac and cheese, exactly like. Here's what I think one solution and if you're listening, um, um, fox, fox people, um one solution to that is that you, I think the floor would be beneficial if it was more pop culture centric, meaning all the categories have to do with tv, movies, sports, um, even history, but make it pop culture related and not like random objects in a kitchen drawer.
Speaker 1:I think those are horrible categories and I don't think people really care about them yeah we all know what a stapler is, we all know what a paper clip is, who cares. But you know, that's. That's a criticism I have. Like what in the dog care enough? We had the dogs last season one and now we're having dogs again. We had that a couple episodes back, did that play again, it did.
Speaker 1:Yeah, they had puppies this time instead of dogs. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, or something like that. And my buddy Josh was in season one and he had dogs. That was his category and he got out very early. But why are you going to like I don't understand it, like, don't like, think more about it, it's it just. I almost feel like someone's searching the internet for random pictures and then they're just kind of going to Shutterstock paying for them and that's the show and that's it. And I think you know. Listen, if you want to hire a writer, I'd be willing to do it. Um, I'll give up eligibility to do that, but, um, cause you could, it's so much you could do with that, and but I do like this. I have a have a good positive. I do like the time boost that they did last this year, because it makes people kind of go for the third win.
Speaker 2:Definitely that was a big plus. Very good.
Speaker 1:What I didn't like is I don't like love the guy from clerks um. However, I don't like to see him just winning, because either people aren't going after him, etc. I feel like there should be a mechanism in place at the end of each episode that says whoever has the most floor is automatically challenged by a random person on the floor, and they don't have to be adjoining, but they put a mechanism in place so that they have to go for it, or something like that. I just feel like it's. I mean, if I'm standing there as a contestant with him collecting all that money and you kind of heard it too from contestants in the last episode I'd be a little pissed Like why is he get to keep getting money?
Speaker 2:Cause he's just standing there and um so on that topic we've talked, we've mentioned a couple of times that the, and they've obviously ruined it with how much someone wins, at least now in tonight. In this episode we're talking about, he splits it this time for 10. Yes, does that mean they're splitting it again next week?
Speaker 1:no, I, I'm, I'm thinking.
Speaker 2:I remember hearing 110 oh, okay, I thought I thought we had you had mentioned 120 and maybe I was.
Speaker 1:I think I was mistaken. I'm thinking he he does not get the money next week. I'm thinking.
Speaker 2:The spoiler is he's out next.
Speaker 1:Which makes sense. Either he's out next or the other side of the floor has the same amount of land, so I think maybe that starts building up.
Speaker 2:And he's still in it. Yeah, because the one who tied is still going.
Speaker 1:Which, if you think about it strategically for him's the best bet. You know why? Because now all the pressure is on them to get picked. You understand what I'm saying? Yeah, like they're more prone because they have more pieces of floor, so now they're more attractive than he is, than brian is. So yeah, I don't know like, like your meme. Oh, so yeah, any other interesting?
Speaker 2:tidbits from that episode that you want to talk about. Yeah, we also need to talk about how it ended. To set that up, one more critique that, since apparently this is what we're doing and this one we're just throwing out all the critiques, but they got to stop ruining what happens in the episode with the title what we're doing and this one we're just throwing out all their critiques, but they gotta stop ruining what happens in the episode with the title oh yes we talked about that they did it again because of this episode was something like a new contender emerges.
Speaker 2:So halfway through the episode we're like okay, well, clearly someone is going to either challenge brian or someone else is going to catch up, and at that point there was only the one other person who was even close. So once they started getting over there, we're like okay, one of the two of them is going to get up to or pass, because that's the name of the dang episode. Why do they really do that?
Speaker 1:why do you spoil an episode? Why do you do that? I don't understand like it's. I mean, in this day and age we're streaming. It's bad enough that most of the stuff if you, if you and I, you and I are on social media a lot it's hard not to get spoiled sometimes with these things, but why do it in the title?
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Speaking of Fox there were some good battles. There were. Do you want to talk about any of them?
Speaker 2:No, it's okay.
Speaker 1:Speaking of Fox real quick. It's not really one of our bases. We're still on that base. Lola, who was on we Are Family With Us. She is Carney Wilson's daughter. She made it to Hollywood Week, so she has a golden ticket. Congratulations, lola. She will continue on American Idol. They had half of Wilson Phillips on the show with her singing Hold On, which is one of my favorite songs, and that was. Yeah, it was a good moment, it was fun.
Speaker 2:And we also had Luis Fonsi as an answer on the floor.
Speaker 1:I was going to say yes, another we Are Family connection. Signs, signs everywhere, signs, signs everywhere.
Speaker 2:And then, as I mentioned to you also, Kenny the Jet Smith was all over March Madness. Yes he was, and they showed bill murray of course bill murray.
Speaker 1:Come on, and bill murray. Bill murray was of course in tokyo a couple weeks ago, last week, um traveling a lot traveling man. Um yeah, so cool stuff. Um so, moving on to the next base, previously on survivor. Um, before we get into previously on survivor, there's a preview for this week's episode where Jeff Probst is legit crying.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:I hope. I wonder what happens there. You have any predictions?
Speaker 2:When you're watching March Madness for four straight days, which is on the CBS networks, you see that commercial a dozen times a day.
Speaker 1:So, now that you've seen it so many times, do you have any predictions on what happened?
Speaker 2:I think it's something to do with Mitch during the challenge.
Speaker 1:That's my guess I think someone gets hurt yeah, oh, you think it's an injury well, you know, hey, he says in the, in the I mean, they could edit this anymore, but he's like breathe, breathe and I'm like breathe so maybe it's, maybe it's mesh oh, that makes sense. See, I knew you would come up with it. I think that's what it is. I think that's really what it is. I think, I think and Jeff gets emotional because he relates to it somehow, maybe- yeah.
Speaker 1:Dude, you're pretty good. You're pretty good at predicting stuff. You should do that for a living.
Speaker 2:I think that it. I will say that the more times you kept seeing it, it does seem like it's going to hit.
Speaker 1:During the challenge right.
Speaker 2:No, I'm just saying that the moment is probably going to hit emotionally.
Speaker 1:I'm concerned because I might have a moment cause that. You know I get I'm a pretty emotional guy when I'm watching this stuff and stuff affects me, and especially if I can relate to it and I have had my share of panic attacks so I can definitely relate to that and uh, yeah, I had one in atlanta hey, it all turned out in a warehouse somewhere. What was going on? Memories it all comes back to to that um dude. Oh yeah, it's so survivor. You want to talk about the episode?
Speaker 2:yeah, how about the fact that not a few minutes into it, it looks like they're about to start a challenge right away and it's like wait, why are they called in so early? And then, of course, when you have one tribe that loses everything, you can't really have a six on six on three anymore, so we have to try to swap. Drop those buffs. One of the probably like the earliest you could ever have. One, right, I mean you can't get any earlier than that.
Speaker 1:It's weird. And so on the island, what is this like? Day six or something like that. It's literally.
Speaker 2:I think it's over a week now, or I mean maybe at some point, but I think they show day eight and nine in the episode.
Speaker 1:Oh, okay, Okay. So I mean, strategically, it's probably better for those three that it's done earlier than later, I guess.
Speaker 2:Yeah, definitely.
Speaker 1:What a reprieve, especially after that last tribal council. He got lucky, oh oh you know, Did he though.
Speaker 2:I know I was going to say she literally says all I was praying for was to not be on the same tribe as Cedric. So of course I got put on the same tribe as Cedric.
Speaker 1:Dude, she holds crutches.
Speaker 1:They're looking for cracks and they found it already. She, you know it never. It ever ceases to amaze me, year after year. We're in season 48 now people have watched. I mean, if you're going on survivor most likely you've seen every season of survivor how do you go out there and still play that way when you know it's not beneficial to you? I don't understand it. But she holds grudges, you know. Listen, if that's me, I'm putting that shit behind me. I gotta play this game. Enough like I can't. I can't be emotionally attached to something that hurt me or happened to me. I have to be emotionally strong enough to say I'm putting that aside, we gotta move on, let's go. Um, she's holding on to it, which is telling me that it's going to be a detriment to both of them. Yeah, or or, knowing survivor, they're both going to end up far, far along hating each other either either is correct.
Speaker 2:They can't get. They can't get rid of each other you remember rachel and uh, last season.
Speaker 1:Um, what's her name? Rachel and uh, you know what I'm talking about uh yeah, who won genevieve rachel and? Genevieve uh, they, they had that not. Not like this kind of more, yeah, um. So yeah, this season I will say this season not for me, so far not as good as last.
Speaker 2:Last season was freaking, unbelievable yeah, it's been not the same start, but um it could I do love mitch now I love mitch.
Speaker 1:There's some players, I, you know mitch has a stutter. I love seeing people represent and, and, and and. You know, I know there are kids out there that stutter and that see this, this man going on national TV, going on survivor, and saying I can do that as an educator. That makes me very happy when that representation is out there, just saying yeah, definitely.
Speaker 2:Just saying there's a good amount of that on this season.
Speaker 1:Which is awesome.
Speaker 2:I love that.
Speaker 1:So the tribe swap happens, the journey happens. Right, was there a journey? No, no, no, not this time. No journey. What you're?
Speaker 2:thinking of is they kept talking about other people's journeys, because now that they've swapped tribes, they can hear stories from other people, so some people may have gotten caught in certain lies.
Speaker 1:yeah, but here's what here's.
Speaker 2:I have a question for you. Okay, so you have a tribe swap and you're getting to know everybody again, right, do you? Is it safe to assume that everyone at this point I mean, it's season 48 already is everyone at this point a fan of survivor? Who's season 48 already? Is everyone at this point a fan of Survivor? Who's on the show Like no one's applying that knows nothing about it, right?
Speaker 1:No, yeah, I think, because, honestly, if even I was just a casual kind of if I know, you know you have. I'm like big brother. You have plenty of notice that you're going to be on the show Big brother, you find out right away. So if I find notice that you're going to be on the show Big brother, you find out right away. So if I find out that I'm going to be on survivor, you know for a fact I'm turning on paramount plus and I'm binge watching as much as I possibly can.
Speaker 2:So yes, and we even talked about last season Remember curious. Yeah, I'm always curious when people are just oh yeah. Curious when people are just oh yeah, I'm the biggest fan of survivor and it's like are you gonna put a target on your back, but at the same time, everyone is the biggest fan of survivor, so maybe just don't talk about it that much like what do you think is the right there?
Speaker 1:it just, it just completely doesn't matter yeah, I honestly, I honestly the play for me is just kind of be casual and say, yeah, I love survivor, it's, it's a cool show. Okay, let's move on. I mean, I I don't think you concentrate it, I think you do not you, but in general the contestant should do everything they possibly can to avoid putting a light on their freaking face exactly to push the, the, the flashlight, onto other people. The one of the strategic things on a reality show like Survivor, big Brother, competition wise, is you always want to, without them knowing it, take that flashlight, that invisible flashlight, and move it over there on that other person. When you do that, all of a sudden, you're giving yourself weeks of other people being targets and then before you that is a big key in these games is is to that social piece of shining, but doing so in a way that doesn't make you look like an ass or shine the light back on you, and that was executed perfectly by your definition in this episode.
Speaker 2:Because to what were you just mentioned about the journeys? All of a sudden the one of the tribes. Oh wait, no, that's not what we were told. We were told you had to play. You didn't have a choice, and all of a sudden other people start questioning what they were told and whether or not they can trust said people.
Speaker 1:So that's a good way to start stirring the pot what is a sure death on a reality show like survivor is losing people's trust. When you lose people's trust, you're fucked.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you're done, you're done which You're done, which, weirdly, in this particular instance, this is definitely an outlier, not the norm, but this person ends up going home not because of that, because the people who started to question the trust didn't question it enough, where they still stuck with him. This time, this time. But my thought here was, if you have an advantage of some kind and you even start to hesitate, and even one percent, and you mention it more than once yourself, how's that not the indicator to you said dumb, dumb ass. The the going home with things in your pocket took a season off and it's back yes, basically, I mean.
Speaker 2:That's it, although this tribal was good in the fact that you know they had the double vote and it was perfectly executed that travel was the only way you could survive in a 2v3 situation, and she played it very well I was very impressed yes, I think the whole the whole time. The two of them have done an incredible job downplaying how close they are.
Speaker 1:It's hard to do that's how you socially play the game.
Speaker 2:Yes, if that's to take notes for future, if you're ever playing yep, if you want to have a strong alliance like that, but you don't want people to know it, and that is perfectly done. Major, major kudos to kyle and and I'm drawing a blank, I don't know why, I can't think of her name right now, but I know who you're talking about, but yes, both of them were played it great.
Speaker 2:She was the only girl in the tribe and the three guys who have been together. What they? They called themselves something funny. Uh, the california girls.
Speaker 1:The california girls alliance is what they're called well, and they didn't know that kyle was so close to her, so that was a big oh, exactly that was an advantage. Yeah, that was such an event. If such, it was played absolutely beautifully. You don't give up what you don't need to give up and you could see the look of shock on their faces.
Speaker 2:That's how well they played it, because they were completely blindsided by it.
Speaker 1:And those are the best tribals. After, when they go back to camp. That's the beginning of the episode, and then they try most of the time oh no, I'm not upset, I just didn't know, or you know that that's usually how they play it all, I'm not mad, I'm just I'm not mad.
Speaker 1:I'm disappointed with, disappointed in what. It's a freaking game. What are you disappointed it? Um tough, you know, same thing if I was, if it was gonna happen, you know, uh, man, I uh. Survivoror is such a good show we do have. Survivor's finale was announced today and Amazing Race's finale was announced today.
Speaker 2:And they're not the same day this time right.
Speaker 1:No, it looks like they're. Amazing Race is a week before and, yeah, and right now, as we speak. By the way, charlie, I will say this the Amazing Race, season 38 is filming. It started it's a little spoiler it started in Amsterdam, and, for those Big Brother fans who might not know, amsterdam is the original home of the Big Brother franchise. That's where Big Brother started, in Holland, and so this season of the Amazing Race features all Big Brother contestants.
Speaker 2:Wow, well, that part, I did know the all Big Brother contestants.
Speaker 1:Do you know who's playing? I know most of them. Yeah, I kind of told you. I kind of told you, yeah, but I'll mention it for our viewers. I'm pulling it up. I know Chelsea told you yeah, but I'll mention it for our viewers, I'm pulling it up.
Speaker 2:I know Chelsea's playing.
Speaker 1:I'll do it out of my mind because I can't find it. Highland, I didn't know this. Highland from the cookout is actually dating Taylor, who is on the next season, who won the next season. So now they're racing together. Joseph is racing with his brother and Taylor and Joseph used to be an item Um, um, uh. Tucker is racing, not with Rubina, which was interesting, he's racing with his brother. I believe Angela is racing with her daughter and I do, um, also, I, I, I already know who's the first out.
Speaker 2:Of course you do.
Speaker 1:I didn't try dude, it just popped up. I couldn't believe it. But yeah, just what do you mean? How has it popped up On Instagram? Someone posted it. How did they?
Speaker 2:see it.
Speaker 1:A reality TV fan, I think alluded to it or something like that okay, um, but yeah, um, yeah, I won't spoil it for you. Um, I think what they're doing is they're filming that season and they're actually going to probably premiere it in september, october, after the big brother season, and probably they're gonna for me I won't watch, but you can't.
Speaker 1:You don't have to spoil it for everybody, you're not gonna wow, okay I'll tell you amazing race I'll tell you I'll spoil it after the podcast. Um okay, I will give you a hint. You're gonna be very happy about that.
Speaker 2:Um okay and now everybody else does no, they don't, they't, they don't know. They might. They use context clues, but we'll leave it at that. We won't spoil it. No, we don't, I don't know.
Speaker 1:You know, it's like Tony Masellian, who's the boss? Anyway, it's not a clue. See how bad I am, I'm evil. Okay, all right, enough If you know who's the boss and you know Tony, Miss Ellie works for it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, we got it. You don't have to draw to the answer.
Speaker 1:I'm just saying I'm just, you know, come on, it's a pop culture podcast. I'm just all right, just having a little fun. Sorry folks, you know. If you're upset about that, I'm sorry. Blame reality TV fan on Instagram. Um, also, they started uh rumoring uh traders. Season four is cast and they haven't even started filming that yet.
Speaker 2:And but those are just straight rumors. Nothing confirmed, right.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we might see Tiffany Pollard again.
Speaker 2:Anyone can. Anyone can cook up a rumor.
Speaker 1:We'll see, I know.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I would rather not see Frankie Grande. We'd also rather not see Nick Fial again.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, so we shall. It seems like the rumored cast does not match up to the previous season at all, so I hope it's wrong, but we shall see One of the ones.
Speaker 2:That was interesting in the rumored list was emmett smith former cowboy?
Speaker 1:yeah, that'd be cool I like emmett, I always have one random one like that and he was on dancing with the stars twice they had.
Speaker 2:They had nicki bella one year. They I like nicki bella they had dante wilder one year.
Speaker 1:They had Michael Jordan's son. Yeah, so yeah, anything else you want to talk about?
Speaker 2:No, I think we covered it.
Speaker 1:We pretty much did. I'm not used to the shorter version of this episode, but I appreciate it. No, it wasn't that much shorter, don't?
Speaker 2:worry, no, it wasn't. I'm just ready for baseball. I'm just really, really pumped for baseball.
Speaker 1:Have a safe trip to Arizona. Enjoy yourselves and you in New York and hopefully.
Speaker 2:Maybe you'll make it to a game.
Speaker 1:I'm hoping You're going to the warmer weather, I'm going to the colder weather. So there we go. But yeah, I'm excited, we'll see, maybe we'll go, we'll find out. Next episode We'll talk it. Of course, I want to hear all about your trip to arizona and seeing the cubs beat the diamondbacks in how many games two games series.
Speaker 1:Um, we're going to two, but it's a four game series so yeah, sweep of the cubs to diamondbacks and then the dodgers lose and then the cubs are already ahead of the dot. I'm just saying, well, different division, but you know I mean yeah, just just.
Speaker 2:let's just start winning a few games, don't let them win, you can go around the Yankees, get the Brewers a loss. You can do it, the Yankees can lose plenty of games to the American League teams.
Speaker 1:Let's go, yankees.
Speaker 2:We should be rooting for them to win all their games against nl teams, just for the our own playoff chance okay, just say, do that, we can do that, and then they're gonna beat the marlins and then they go like oh and 140 in the al, it'll be perfect they're gonna meet the marlins. They threaten the socks record for 121 speaking speaking the marlins real quick.
Speaker 1:I am going. We get back from new york on friday. On sunday I'm going to see the Marlins and the pirates at Long Depot park and they're giving away Jeff Kona and bobbleheads.
Speaker 2:So what? What game numbers of the season is that? Uh, that is four, I think. Okay, I was thinking I was already doing the math to see if but it won't be able to soon You'll miss skeins, then skeins is going opening day.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and you know, you know, and I'm going to be in New York for their opening day. You know who? Um, you know who they're playing the next day, on Monday, right?
Speaker 2:I do not.
Speaker 1:The Mets the.
Speaker 2:Mets are coming to town. There you go. Are you going?
Speaker 1:No, no, I I. It's the beginning of the week, I don't know. I have to see my schedule with my clients. I'm missing my clients this week.
Speaker 2:Maybe one of the games you got to see Pete and Juan in a regular season Mets game.
Speaker 1:I'm sorry I can't go to your kids IEP meeting. I have to go to the baseball game.
Speaker 2:There's three days. There's three days of games, that's true.
Speaker 1:You can make one more. Of course, I'm going to go to the meds one day. Um, I mean I'm. The tickets are probably going to be like four dollars.
Speaker 2:It's a ridiculous you four dollars to come in I I for these tickets.
Speaker 1:We're in row one in the outfield and I think I paid like twenty dollars a ticket, just like that wow, and I'm getting a free bobblehead so yeah, um, basically anybody you get a bobblehead, you get a bobblehead because it's only it's a free bobblehead. So yeah, basically anybody you get a bobblehead, you get a bobblehead because it's 8,000 bobbleheads and there's no way they're going to have 8,000 people in that park.
Speaker 2:Those Mets games are 640, 640, and 440.
Speaker 1:Oh, the 440 one. I definitely would like to go the 640, miami traffic sucks. You know what we could do? I'm looking at Erica. We could take Brightline, we could take the train down there, so that might work actually.
Speaker 2:So that Wednesday April 2, 440 starts.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we're going to try Brightline. I'm going to try the train, we'll see. All right, oh, buddy, baseball, baseball's back baby, let's do it, love it.
Speaker 2:We'll be talking regular season games and stats the next time.
Speaker 1:And I'll be crying fantasy or being happy.
Speaker 2:No, you'll be being happy.
Speaker 1:It's a much better team this year.
Speaker 2:Just remember to pick up some more pitchers. Don't forget, I have to do that. You got time. You got time.
Speaker 1:We'll talk. All right, this has been Around the Bases the pop culture and sports podcast with your host.
Speaker 2:Charlie Seymour.
Speaker 1:And I'm bases the pop culture and sports podcast with your host, charlotte seymour, and I'm tim sterberg. Let's go. Mets and cubs and angels have a great opening day week. Everybody see you next week. Bye, thank you.
