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Funkatronic Rex Podcast: Season 2 Episode 9 All Your Bases

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S2E9 — “All Your Bases”

We’re back after a short break (and a false alarm mishap at the shop), shaking off the dust and diving straight into the nitty-gritty of hobbying. This time, it’s all about the often-overlooked secret sauce of miniature painting: basing.

We start with the basics: why the ground your minis stand on can make or break the final look. From there, we share plenty of budget-friendly tricks, like raiding the aquarium aisle at the pet store for alien plants and funky colored rocks, grabbing bulk sand or gravel from craft stores, or ordering larger scenic mixes from places like Scenic Express or Geek Gaming Scenics. If you’ve ever wanted to make your Star Wars: Legion troopers feel like they actually came from different planets—or if you’re looking to elevate your Marvel Crisis Protocol heroes beyond their default “tactical rocks”—this episode is packed with easy wins.

We swap stories about painting styles, from simple mud and rubble textures to glowing LED centerpiece models, and even laugh about our mistakes (yes, putting Doctor Strange on the wrong base size really happened). We cover methods for priming and texturing, why you should add tufts last, and how to keep an army looking cohesive without sucking the fun out of personal creativity.

And because it wouldn’t be a Funkatronic Rex podcast without a tangent, the episode spirals into one of our favorite debates: what sodas would the X-Men drink? Expect fiery opinions (Cyclops is definitely a Diet Coke guy, Jubilee is locked on grape soda, Cable raids the timeline for Jolt, Wolverine doesn’t bother with soda at all), a little chaos, and plenty of laughter.

By the end, you’ll not only have a toolbox of ideas for your next basing project, but also a new appreciation for soda-fueled mutant headcanon.

Takeaway: Don’t overlook your bases—whether it’s rubble, tufts, lava, or tactical rocks, they’re an easy way to make your minis truly yours. And remember: have fun, share ideas, and let your creativity spill over onto the tabletop.

Bonus: Patreon updates are coming soon, so keep an eye out!


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SPEAKER_01:

What did you? Oh my gosh, what didn't I eat? I had like a little egg pie. I mean, I had a quiche for breakfast. Reflex, reflex.

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The dimension of the plastic cut. Cuts like a side. That's a side colour step for the head next up.

SPEAKER_04:

Hi, this is the Funkaronic Funkaronic Funka Funkaronic. This is the Funkatronic Rex podcast. I think season two? Season two. Episode something. I've lost track of all sense of time. It's all wibbly wobbly time in Miami, anyways.

SPEAKER_01:

There is no sense of time and space here at the funk. You come here, you play games, you leave. It's like next week. It's great. Oh my gosh. Well, obviously it's been a hot minute since we've done a little bit of recording. It has.

SPEAKER_04:

We took a bit of a break. Live quick peek behind the curtain. You guys aren't gonna notice. Nope. Well, we won't know. But we sure did.

SPEAKER_01:

Who are you? Who am I? Who are you looking at what am I doing? Stranger Danger. Oh my gosh. Put it this way.

SPEAKER_04:

It was long enough that I forgot how to open the store.

SPEAKER_01:

Oh my gosh, that's that is it's not become my favorite part, but it's hilarious how we're like, let's get ready. We gotta run in, get to the door, unlock it, and turn off the alarm. And I don't think we've succeeded yet. Nope. Nope. It's been 100% failure rate. 100% failure rate. It's good. Uh it in the realm of gaming, we've both rolled critical ones, like critical misses. We've rolled big fat ones, and the alarm goes off. That's great. So Mike loves us. This is great. But the good news is it doesn't prevent us from recording. In fact, the alarm's going off right now and there's police outside. Yeah, that's fine. They just want to hang out and play games. No, officer, we're supposed to be here. It's okay. We don't, we we work here. Oh my gosh. Well, um, since this has been a hot minute, uh one of the things I was hoping to quickly kind of revamp and look at again. Uh a little bit ago, well, for us it was like four years ago, um, there's an episode when we're talking about like tabletop gaming and painting and getting stuff set up and getting into the hobby part so that you can you can either game without hobbying and hobby without gaming. Obviously, right? Um the part of it that I think we got right near the end that we kind of got a little crunched due to time was the idea of bassing. All your bass. All your basses belong to us. It is all about that bass. If I have that song in my push. I don't even know that song, but I know the reference. It's all about that bass. Um one of the things that I think I mentioned briefly was the fact that uh it excites me when I see a model. Not only do I'm like, oh, I can paint the heck out of that, or like I've been trying to get back into painting to get ready for our spearhead action. Little a little tabletop wargaming, painting some scenery. Oh, shh. We're talking um we're just we're not gonna play any more games. That's it. We're just gonna we're just gonna talk about playing games. Um was the idea of seeing a mini and going like this mini is really cool, like I want to play with it, but also I can how am I going to really personalize it, right? Yeah. And I think one of the ways that people can really personalize the miniature, because when you're painting, you can look at the box art, you can go online, do some research, see what people do, and there is a veritable plethora of pinadas out there about people who paint on YouTube or Instagram.

SPEAKER_03:

You keep using that word. I do not think you know what that word means.

SPEAKER_01:

You have a plethora of pinadas.

SPEAKER_03:

Um that would you say I have a plethora?

SPEAKER_01:

See, see boss. Uh see, you have a plethora of models over there. Because, you know, Mike's got a plenty of Warhammer and Sigmar over there. Um and when you approach a model, you're like, well, I can just do the box art. Totally fine, totally great. You can expand your paint palette and just go crazy. You can make it, you know, like for for a Marvel Crestis protocol, you can do like comic book line art, really crazy uh fluorescent paint, whatever you want to do, right? That model is yours to paint. Uh but one thing is it's all the models look kind of the same, but the base of the model, your basic materials can really be yours. Yeah. Right? Now, one of the things that I when I got back into miniature painting back in the day when uh Star Wars Legion was first came out, right? I looked at these guys, all the rebel soldiers, because I got the rebel uh I split the rebel box set with somebody, I think. Traitor. Yeah, I know, sorry. Shh, traitor, I'm the good guys. You're the good wait.

SPEAKER_04:

We were keeping order and peace in the galaxy.

SPEAKER_01:

Yes, the harder you clench your fingers, the more systems slip through your fingers, dude. Come on now. Um but one of the things when I was looking at the all the uh models, rebel soldiers, what was that how do I make them cool and fun? So I went through and I painted each one. This is before I realized you kind of want a quote unquote cohesive paint job for your army. Relatively unified. Relatively unified. Right. So each squad I painted from a different planet.

SPEAKER_05:

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_01:

Right? So one was like uh like Tatooine, Sandy, Crazy Weird Purple Planet, uh Fuchsia. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And then I was like, well, so I've got like a fuchsia purple camouflage, the city camouflage, jungle camouflage for all that stuff. So I had a little fun with that.

unknown:

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_01:

And I was like, well, how I don't want the I want them to be camouflaged in the world they're in. Sure. Right? So the thing I've discovered that I really love doing was creating a miniature base to kind of match those designs. And of course, little right again, people looked at my army when I was putting it out and they're like, so what planet are you on?

unknown:

What?

SPEAKER_01:

Like, are all these guys coming from different planets? And I'm like, shh, my theory is they've all been called to duty from different locations, and they've come here to save the world on a on a piece of the planet. On a piece of the planet, that's right. So one of the things I want you guys, all you guys and gals, all you do-to-do dats out there is to when you look at models, look at the base. You can keep it flat plastic. There's, you know, there ain't no judgment, right? You've paint built a model. A little bit of judgment. Okay, there's a little bit of judgment. We can at least try. Right, right. Well, um, yes, you can try. But like I said, you can just paint the base city gray, brown, green, whatever. Give it a little changing. But the thing that I found really kind of fell in love with was creating a fun, I wouldn't call it dynamic, right? Because a lot of people online are like, this is a cool dynamic in this pose, and I've put four layers of stuff and I've moved his thing so he's leaping off and like Tactical Rocks! I'm standing on a rock so I can see farther. Um, you could you can go as crazy as you want, but I was like keeping it simple and fun, like grass tufts, uh, a little um the modeling paste slash texture paint. Yeah. Um, a few rocks that you can either get in your backyard. Or one thing I'd love to do was I went to the pet store and I looked in the uh the aquarium section, right? Now, this is the cool thing, not just for your miniatures, but for your tabletop games. If you look in the aquarium, there's some weird cool stuff, right? Different colors, like there's this, again, a purple fuchsia, bright pink plant, a weird orange-green thing, uh, weird rocks, that all the colored rocks. So if you guys are out there, like, I want to do a little bit more basing, like I want to get a little more into that, but I don't want to blow the bank because I think we talked about the other, like, you don't need a lot to get into painting, right?

SPEAKER_04:

Yeah. I remember the the aquarium plants was a really popular like tip for the Star Wars game and probably Warhammer as well, where it's just like really easy way to do some alien-looking plants.

SPEAKER_01:

You want not of you know, not of this world. We want to do now, of course. I think 40k is very much a grim, dark, we're fighting in a city, ruined, whatever. A lot of ruins.

SPEAKER_03:

Most of that is that.

SPEAKER_01:

But if you're like doing your tyrannids or weird thing, like you can make it look like an alien movie. I mean, you can do whatever you want. Whatever you want. You can put Legos on the frickin' thing, which is which would be great, honestly. Um but I went to the the the pet store and got like those crazy colored rocks, different different rocks, uh, the plastic plants, uh, and then trim them up to make each unit again, little did I know, but should be more unified. So each unit could have a little bourgeois de vie, a little jeunesse quoi, as it were, right? Making it look special, unique, as it were. Now, unfortunately, yes. Like, yes, they're in a little, there's a there's a little potted plant next to an apartment door, uh or or there's like somebody passed out and there's a bag of garbage, like New York City or something like that. I mean Gotham. I mean um But one of the some of the places, so ideas where you all can go get your materials. Obviously, the pet store I think has a lot of great materials that you can split with your friends. Um and that's one thing I did is like I saved some tubs and I shared it with a couple people. Like I bought a bag of rocks. This bag of rocks is gonna last me like years, decades. Like I'm never gonna use it up. So if I bought a bag of rocks, I can divide it in half, put it in a little container, and for five bucks, I've got rocks that'll last me forever, and uh a friend of mine has the other half. Um, I did the same thing if I went to uh like a craft store like Michael's, they have sand. A lot of people go, you can just go in. I hate sand, it just gets everywhere.

SPEAKER_04:

How many Star Wars references are we just gonna like randomly throw in this episode? As many as we can. This is the secret Star Wars fan episode.

SPEAKER_01:

Everybody at home just have a little bingo chart, and if uh uh for every movie you can just mark off a box. Of course, it's rough, it gets everywhere. It is. Oh my gosh. Um uh, because one thing like going in the backyard and finding rocks, uh, dirt, sand, totally fine. Uh you just gotta make sure it's not gross, I guess. But for me, it's just simpler and easier to like again. I'm gonna buy a five-dollar bag jar of sand at Michael's, right? Split it in half, share it with some friends. Because I'm not gonna need again eight ounces of sand lasts a long, long time. Um, and the other place that I wanted to mention, uh, I I I'm trying to remember the name. It is called Scenic Express. Uh it is a train modeling uh store. So when you go there, it's really about, you know, uh H scale, O scale, all that stuff for trains, but creating your cityscapes that your trains go through. Oh my gosh!

SPEAKER_04:

I think I looked it up and like I'm I'm pretty sure Crisis Protocol was like O scale.

SPEAKER_01:

It was something like that. Is it yeah? I I don't have my phone handy, but I think it's pretty close to O scale. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Um I discuss just doing some Google searches about different places to get tufts, what's you know, economical. Um everybody makes a tuft, a grass tuft, citadel makes them, um Army Painter makes them. Monument Homies doesn't make them yet. Shockingly enough, they do make texture paint, which is awesome. Um but I'm like, where's a great place to find stuff in bulk that I can share? Split with a bunch of guys, right? Uh Scenic Express carries these bags, and I wish I had I brought them in. There's like, you know, uh 10 ounces of grass or forest debris that looks awesome. Like it's a great scale. It looks great. Uh forest debris, little uh like in essence, they use like old rubber tires, like chipped rubber tires, and it looks just like dead wood and other stuff in there. Um and you get a bag for like let's say 12 bucks, divide to that guy for four people. Yeah. So for three bucks, you have uh a plethora of ground materials that frankly you like I bought this stuff ten years ago? Like a while ago when when the kiddo was really little. A long, long time ago in a galaxy, far far away. Far far away. So check that out. Um, the other place that I found that I really love their mixes, right? Because you can just get regular basic sand and dirt. Uh it's an old YouTuber Luke's APS. I think it's turned into Geek Gaming Scenics. Okay. Could be wrong. Um, but check those guys out. They also carry basically the same idea. You guys can get a bag of this stuff like black lava sand with green crystals, or um smaller pebbles, forest debris. The one I like a lot, which is uh I always say the word wrong, but it's a Tiaga, Tiaga Hillside. It's a Minecraft reference. You know, your Tiaga wilderness. Oh my gosh. Well, I don't know if it is or not. Taiga T-I-A-G-A. Tiga Tiaga? T-A-I-T-A?

SPEAKER_04:

Or something like you because like that's a that's an act, that's a card in magic. Uh but it's it's also an actual that's an actual biome, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. T-A-I-G-A, taiga.

SPEAKER_01:

That's a taiga or t-a. Yeah, because I pronounce this.

SPEAKER_02:

The taiga, also known as boreal forest, is a biome characterized by coniferous forests found in the cold subarctic regions of the northern hemisphere. Not carnivorous. No.

SPEAKER_01:

But uh it is a side note, one of my favorite places to start in Minecraft. I love starting up there, pretending I'm a Viking and getting my butt kicked. But um so they have a lot of different things, uh, different basic materials. So if you want to do an army, you can like get one container and do the majority of your army. Actually, probably all of it, because it's the amount. Comes in a little bag. I've saved a bunch of um uh we all like like noosa yogurt containers, fast food containers, stuff like that. So I've saved a bunch of those. They're short and wide, so that fits a lot of bases in there. So put the stuff in a container, uh, label it, and then that way you can just basically, once you finish your mini, you can put a little glue on the base, dip it in, swirl it around, and you're done. Keeping it simple. And then you can add a few tufts or whatever. But I just wanted to like kind of flip back a little bit because I love like I really enjoy basing and trying to have fun with that that creative outlet. How do I make my nightcrawler look a little different than yours, night your nightcrawler? Or how do I make my uh Luminoth Realm Lords just a little more unique on the table?

SPEAKER_04:

Obviously, that involves LEDs.

SPEAKER_01:

LEDs. Okay, that's just one, two, three. Okay, it's been a couple of miniatures that I put LEDs in, and maybe we'll we'll swing back to that one another episode. Like if you really want to kick up a notch, what you can do. Um I but of course there's again uh YouTube and other resources looking at how to really go advanced, crazy uh kit bashing to create your models uh and make them even crazier or more unique. But I I love putting that LED in that guy, man. It was so fun.

SPEAKER_04:

And it to your credit, it looks really rad.

SPEAKER_01:

It looks pretty cool. I did it for two. The Lytle Beltharion for Luminoth Realm Ords, uh, I put an LED in, I put actually three, so he pulses a little bit and close. Um, and then from there, I built the sentinels for Marvel Crestis Protocol. Sorry, it's only singular because I haven't gone back because, you know, apparently. ADHD modeling. Disappointed. Disappointed! Um very disappointed so I did it with the the the the not the it's the master, the head sentinel, not the regular ones, but the head sentinel I worked in and how to put an LED in the chest and in the head so the lights kind of pulse and glow. But not master mold. Not master mold, because they're not they're coming. They'll be here. Oh my gosh. Sorry, not to geek out, but the the Adepticon reveals of the roadmaps for atomic mass. This kind of dates this episode, which is which is fine. Have you did you look at any of that? Have you checked it?

SPEAKER_04:

I saw a couple of the like spoiled sculpts that people saw there. Um of like the ones that they had assembled and painted on display. And it was like um gosh, I'm I'm I think Angel was one of them.

SPEAKER_01:

Um well, see Angel's out, so I've got Angel. Oh, okay. Uh and there's gonna be oh, I should have just had it on my phone. There's like four or five. But they look pretty neat. They looked, I mean, they I do love the sculpts and the models. I think there's Phoenix and Phoenix Unleashed is coming out, so Phoenix is gonna be a model that's coming out soon.

SPEAKER_04:

Um so when it comes to basing, I'm I'm a little bit I'm almost the opposite. Like I put minimal effort into my basing. Um, because I really want like the model to be the center focus. I do I do some basing. I think that basing really adds character and it helps the model to stand out. So I I definitely approve of it. It kind of depends on I've I've experimented with different things. So I've used um uh for crisis protocol, it's real easy because crisis protocol, the bases are already sculpted. Right, and so you're just kind of painting. But I have been I have experimented with that.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, yeah. Well, one of the things I've found that I think looks good with the Marvel Crisis Protocol ones in particular is if you find some rubble, uh again, um, the one I use is from uh Geek Gaming on the double. Uh Geek Gaming Scenics has things called a city rubble, which is a great combination of like little gritty stuff, larger pebbles, and broken up rocks. Uh I've usually just glued right if they have a tactical rock, right? I do a little glue around that so it blends in so there's not like a hard break to it. That's smart. Um and the other place that I found, uh I want to say it's called Epic Basing. They create resin bits. Okay. Bunch of resin bits. Everything oh my gosh. It's some of them are like, I don't know how that would work. Uh, but they also have stuff like City Rubble, which is great for 40k, or um rocks that I used for my uh Votan 40k army. Just get a little little uh je ne sais quoi. Right uh and those broken walls, if you want to get at a little height or something like that. But I I see what you're saying, like the basing shouldn't necessarily be the center point.

SPEAKER_04:

I've done but I but I have like still like I still like it. I still I still like putting those personal touches like uh the lizard model, for instance, from Crisis Protocol. Yes that he's jumping out of a manhole, and uh there's a bunch of water that's like he's coming off of tactical water.

SPEAKER_01:

Um it's totally love it.

SPEAKER_04:

And so one of the things that I did when I did that model was I took uh gloss uh what's the word? Finisher. Uh oh gloss varnish. Varnish. There you go. That's the word I was looking for. I I put gloss varnish. I I did the water and gloss varnish, and then I put a little bit of gloss varnish just kind of sprinkled around the edges of the manhole, um, kind of spread out from it as if it was you know splashing water from it. Yeah. Um, and so it's real, real subtle, but it's definitely there. That one's really fun. Another one that's my fit one of my favorites is the Craven the Hunter model where he's standing on the the sign from the zoo and it's like the red brick. So I painted that, and then because it was you know at the zoo, I put uh a bunch of grass and some tufts around it. Yeah. So that that base stands out a lot compared to the others. But yeah, but again, it was it was real simple. It was just like a little bit of grass, you know, filling in the white lines for the brick. Uh, and that was that was about the extent of the craziness I got with that stuff. Yeah, for the most part, when I do a base, uh especially one that's pre-done like that, it's paint it in in a dark tone, dry brush it in a light tone, and then throw a wash on there just to like well, Marvel Curse Pro their bases are great for that because they they have a lot of good sculpting.

SPEAKER_01:

And again, dark a dark color, dry brush light color, and wash, just like you said, is is 90% of what I do too. Absolutely. I mean, there's a couple of guys out there, uh Jonathan uh Jonathan Ho, I think his name is. Whoa. Well, sorry, dude. That's what he's that's what he calls himself. Uh he's a YouTuber and a painter. Like he does like that. You look at these bases and they freaking look like he just cut a piece of the city out and like brought it. He does all the the road lines and all that like wild. It's wild. So when you're out there looking at your bases, it you know, explore, do some research. Yeah. Get um get inspiration. For example, I made uh some homemade lava bases using some texture rollers from Green Stuff World. Are you telling me that the floor is lava? The floor is lava. Ah Anakin would be very upset. Anakin would be very upset. That's right. I hate you! Um but Green Stuff World makes some great uh texture rollers, which I've donated. I think I got a duplicate, so I've donated one or two to the store. Um that you can make ice or lava. But go out there, like Google up, like what does lava look like? What do you what does a grass, what does a Tiaga hill side look like? Tiger. Tiger. Tiger! Tiger Uppacut. Not the other taiga. Tiger Uppacut!

SPEAKER_04:

Um a tiger in Africa! But for Legion, my Star Wars Legion models, Legion is a much more traditional base where it's the blank canvas base. Right, right. Um, theirs are weirdly tall, but I like that. Um so for for that, I did unlike you, I did do a unified planet scheme.

SPEAKER_01:

I didn't know back then. I just is like, I'm just gonna this is a this is a squad, and that's a squad.

SPEAKER_04:

I mean, I you know honestly, I probably would have done the same thing. Like that that I think I had the same thought um originally, and I ended up sticking it to somebody had told me to keep it cohesive. Uh whatever. So for um, so I I traded uh for a bunch of Imperial units, and so for those units, they were already kind of a almost deserty, like mud planet, yeah, yeah uh theme. And so for that it was real, real simple. It was just the the textured mud stuff from Citadel, yep, and uh, you know, again, dry brush and wash, and just again give it that extra pop. Right. Uh, but yeah, like there's nothing going on there other than mud.

SPEAKER_01:

No, again, like this is me having fun with that creative part. Uh uh, and I think what you bring up is great. Like, you can just literally do uh a little texture paste that can be Monument Hobbies, texture paste, the the texture paint from Citadel. You can also do now. I I have tried this version and I wasn't as happy with how it turned out. I could have been using the wrong stuff. But again, going to a your big box hardware store or any place like that and getting uh a little can of drywall spackle. Sure. Right? Those that's again, it will last you forever. It will probably dry out before you use all of it up. And then you have rocks, and then you get then you got like crusty rocks. Um, but yeah, just putting a little bit of that on the base around it, and it gives you something to dry brush, something to get a little zhizing. And it doesn't have to be crazy.

SPEAKER_04:

So that's what I ended up doing for the the rebels. So the rebels I did from scratch, and for those, I decided to do a like uh indoor jungle theme. Oh nice! Yeah um more tropical than indoor, but that was kind of the the thought process. And so for that, there's an equator on Endor. There's I definitely did a lot more texture. The the texture was a lot thicker um that I used instead of just like a thin texture for the mud. And occasionally for for the Imperials, I might like try to put little footprints behind them and things like that.

SPEAKER_01:

Right, right.

SPEAKER_04:

Um, but for the Imperi for the Rebels, it was like there's a couple that I did like little puddles of where I just like literally just poured the gloss varnish into a into a little crater I had made. Yeah, yeah. Um and then I also picked up what's the name of that moss? Uh it's like a rubber moss.

SPEAKER_01:

Make moss fake moss?

SPEAKER_04:

Probably there's there's like a rubber moss or something that that uh is used in I picked it up at at uh at just the hobby store. Yeah, the Michaels, I think it was. Um maybe Hobby Lobby. At any rate, um got a big bag of that, and then I used that to kind of make some bushes. Yeah, I didn't love it, it was a little bit bigger than I wanted it to be, and then the the stems of the moss wasn't quite rigid enough so that it kind of like gets a little flimsy.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, yeah, they can do there's a little wibble wobble, but we don't fall down. It's a little bit flaccid.

SPEAKER_04:

Old old name and old man relates. Old men can relate.

SPEAKER_01:

Um the old man's can relate to everything's plurals.

SPEAKER_04:

So it's uh but overall, I was really happy. It's definitely a lot more dynamic than what I've got going on for the Imperials. Um, and I'm pretty happy with with those results.

SPEAKER_01:

I think it's okay because the Imperials is, I mean, they're basically there to like deplete the planet anyways and take all of its riches. Yeah. So or almost improve it, uh, make it improve the life cycle of the native population there. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04:

They're just trying to unify.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_04:

Um it it almost and this was kind of a I don't think it was intentional, but it was kind of an afterthought where I kind of envisioned my Imperial Army and my rebel army actually being on the same planet. Yeah, yeah. But it's the rebels are coming in from the forest and then the uh Empire like trudging across the the barren waste that they had created as they built their fortress of solitude.

SPEAKER_01:

Their construction zone.

SPEAKER_04:

Yeah, yeah. Right.

SPEAKER_01:

We just can't see the safety cones.

SPEAKER_04:

Now for my my orcs, uh the the two squads of orcs I've painted for my 40k.

SPEAKER_01:

Hey, that's two more you don't have. Wait, no. Alright, yes.

SPEAKER_04:

Yeah. Um those guys I never based because the bases are the wrong size. They had changed the base size from when the person that uh traded in the the starter box or whatever. Um they had based them on one size, and then I think the rules changed and they the bases got slightly larger, like right after that. And so I never went back and I did the bases, but for those guys, what I had envisioned. So I did those. My goal was to do this like uh almost vector wave style thing where it's there, it's a lot of blacks, but then with hot pink and hot blue kind of uh accents on them. I was really happy with how they turn out, and the orcs are like the bright green. Yeah, yeah. Um, so I was really, really happy with it, but I never finished the bases, and I was kind of thinking of doing site trying to do something like again, this goes against the grain of what 40k is supposed to be, but kind of almost cyberpunk-where it's this like techno future world with me on lights, things like that.

SPEAKER_01:

I don't know if I'll ever get back to it, but well, so are those uh do you know if those models are uh uh plastic glued or or super glued to the bases?

SPEAKER_04:

I believe I used uh I don't think I I don't think I assembled those. I think the army I I inherited was already assembled.

SPEAKER_01:

So if it's I don't know if uh so super glue allegedly. I haven't I haven't tried this yet, but allegedly with super glue, it's you can right, you can freeze it, put it in the freezer and cold because it basically gets weaker when it's cold. So you could put one in the freezer, get a little uh Xacto knife underneath there, see if you can pop it off. Yeah. Now, the funny thing, okay, that reminds me. So uh wrong speaking. Of wrong bases are belong to us. I did the same thing with shoot, who was it? Was it Doctor Strange? Okay, so it was like near the beginning of my hobbying with uh atomic mass games and my requests protocol. And of course, when you uh when you get a model, they give you these really cool bases, and sometimes they uh have come in two sizes, let's just say 30 and 40 millimeter. I don't know what they are exactly, but there's two distinct size base sizes.

SPEAKER_04:

I believe it's 16 and 20.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04:

But I might be wrong.

SPEAKER_01:

So I looked at Doctor Strange and I was like, well, he probably goes on the littler one.

SPEAKER_04:

Womp, womp.

SPEAKER_01:

So I after I built it and put it together.

SPEAKER_04:

Because you've got a larger thread area.

SPEAKER_01:

Well, yeah. Uh I looked it up and they're like, no, it's supposed to be this big. Oh, son of. So all I did was glue. I didn't know, uh, I didn't know that you could take it apart. I think I used plastic glue. I just glued the smaller base on top of the bigger base. So now he's a little bit bigger. And then using some of uh the uh air hardening clay I have, I rolled out a few things, try to make it look like he's supposed to be on a large pile of rubble. I kind of like that. So I thought he was like, I uh who's up thinking it's like that's a tall Doctor Strange. I'm like, well, if you look closely, folks, there's you can see I screwed up a little bit. And he's like, well, that's that's not too bad. I'm like, cool. But so uh FYI just checking in the notes, checking the instructions, making sure you're putting your model on the right size base.

SPEAKER_04:

Most uh well, I shouldn't say most, but a lot of these games don't care about. I know like Crisis Protocol specifically doesn't care about the height of the models or anything like that. Um I feel like doesn't Legion care? Like, don't you have to isn't there like a line of sight thing where you're looking from the height of the physical model?

SPEAKER_01:

So allegedly a lot of like Spirit uh Sigmar 40k uh and everybody who's listening, you know, you can pop in the comments and start yelling at us too about this. But Marvel Crisis Protocol, again, doesn't really care about height for line of sight, they just measure it because I think technically they assume like all your terrain is flat in essence, right? You can use 2D cardboard cutouts or actual 3D print. Uh 40k and stuff, actually, you kind of get want to get down and use a laser or see, like, can I see the guy? So, yes, if you make a cool base and it's four millimeters higher, that means I can see him easier. Allegedly. And I think that's right. So I think those games do count on sight.

SPEAKER_04:

In Legion, they released a silhouette like card, right?

SPEAKER_01:

They did.

SPEAKER_04:

And so that that was specifically to counter that kind of thing where it's like you can't get put your guys on tactical rocks to get it. I think that's where the term tactical rock came.

SPEAKER_01:

It might have been. I'm not sure. I just heard it um when using when I was building uh Marvel Crusher's protocol, I was like, by the way, this tactical rock pose kind of is weird. I'm like, what do you what do you talk about?

SPEAKER_04:

So people people that don't know what a tactical rock is. So uh Tactical Rock is a term used in in hobbying where a a miniature is put on a rock. Like you've seen the the heroic stances where I go someone's got their own.

SPEAKER_01:

Captain Morgan pose where they've got the foot on the barrel. He's standing there going, I've just discovered a new planet and I'm gonna destroy it. Yes, he's like he or she, they are like jumping over a rock it or standing on it like cool pose.

SPEAKER_04:

Yeah, and so um, so sometimes in in basing, people will take a model that doesn't normally stand on a rock and try and put it on a rock to give it a more dynamic, more exciting pose. Um, and I I've always wondered kind of okay, what is the the the tactality of it? Why did why do we call it a tactical rock? And so having this conversation, and it's probably yeah, that's probably why where if you put it on the tactical rock, it changes the line of sight for that unit, right? Tactically, right? Uh so possibly that's where that came from. But uh, but yeah, it's it's kind of a a meme at this point where if you use too many tactical rocks, it's kind of silly. And so a lot of people specifically don't like Marvel Crisis Protocol because their sculpts, the way that they design them is oh my god, they all have tactical rocks. They all got a rock. Like it's everyone's got a tactical rock.

SPEAKER_01:

Uh, and a lot of times, like I'll look at the tactical rock, looking at the Weapon X box, it comes with Weapon X and Maverick. And a tactical rock. And a tactical rock. Well, they uh so Weapon X comes on a cool sculpted base, uh, but Maverick came on uh I want to say a weird tactical thing, and I'm like, we can do better. We could do we can make this more tactical. So I I cut off the tactical rock and using some of the bits and bobs from Epic Basing. Yes, I made it more tactical. So they have this like uh industrial waste thing, like barrels. Well, so I so I cut off his tactical rock and put him on top of a couple barrels, and now he is literally like a figure higher. So it it turned out those barrels are kind of big. And I was like, again, Marvel Crushes Protocol doesn't care too much about height necessarily. Uh and I thought it looked good because his pose, he's like coming in and kind of looks like he's like just jumped into place and looking down at somebody because it's Maverick and he's a pompous uh so he's looking down at you, and I'm like, I want him to be a little more you're talking about the character played by Mel Gibson, right? No, not that Maverick. Uh a different Maverick.

SPEAKER_04:

That's a great movie.

SPEAKER_01:

It is. No, you're right, you're right. It is a very good movie.

SPEAKER_04:

Uh if anyone has not seen Maverick starring Mel Gibson, right? Uh I understand that Mel Gibson is is kind of a uh not not everyone's favorite actor anymore.

SPEAKER_01:

Well, no, I mean his well that goes to another question separating like the artist from their artists. Correct, exactly all that stuff. No, I go back and watch Lethal Weapon. Yeah. Still love it. Exactly. That guy's crazy. And now we know not too far off, apparently. Maverick, awesome. Fantastic movie. Yep. Highly recommend. Hamlet. Okay. I mean, there's there was an interesting choice or two there if you're into that. Um, but yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Uh all right. Well, uh sorry, I'll apparently a nice long tangent as we talked about uh revisiting basing. Paul, thank you for humoring me in revisiting that. Um, it was good to raise your base. But uh yeah, uh again, all your bases are belong to us. Um I think the important thing is is have fun. If you're having fun painting the model and experimenting with crazy color choices, make a pink space marine. Who cares? Make uh your dark elves cyberpunk purple or your orcs into cyberpunk. Like, who cares? But don't, you know, don't leave your base behind. Don't leave your bros behind, man. Like, have fun with your bases as well and build up. Uh come to the shop and if you see somebody with some cool bases, go like, what'd you guys do? What did you use in that one? I think that's really cool. There's some cool ideas in this. Because that's kind of also how I learned, what I uh inspired by other bases that other people did.

SPEAKER_04:

So when you when you're doing a base, um I've heard it done both ways, and I don't think that there's a right or a wrong way to do it. I think it's personal preference, and it depends on what your strategy for the base is. Um, but do you usually uh affix the model to the base and then texture the base around it, or do you build the base first and then try to fit the model onto it? I've seen also people like will will uh like ghost fit the model on it and then like mark off where the feet are gonna be and then build around that and then place the model into it.

SPEAKER_01:

Uh on the whole, I uh build and base, uh build the model and put it on its base. So um the the the ones that I'm thinking of right now are my the Leagues of Votan space dwarves. Um so I built all the models and then I built one uh their space wizard, the dwarf wizard, because that's the model. I was like, that is a cool model. Again, I want to build that model. That's really cool looking. He's on some rocks, he's on a bunch of tactical rocks, like he's using his space wizard magic and floating up and lifting it up off the ground, so he's already there. Um so I built the model and put it on its base, and then I did the basing materials. Because on the whole, um you want to, if you use any uh um basing paste, texture paste, uh rocks, dirt, sand, on the whole, you'll want to prime that as well. Uh so once I build the model and put it on, I do add little uh all my 90 to 95% of the basing material is already put on so that when I prime it and paint it, I can paint it all together. Right. And then I'll do a little sprinkling of like maybe some grass, sand, obviously uh weight and save your um tufts, your grass tufts, tufts, grass for the very end. So you'll be able to uh base it, paint it, get your basing, all uh all that stuff done. Cover it with any varnishes, like if you want to do a protective matte varnish, not everybody does, um, but you can because I my um I dock stuff over and it helps protect the paint job. Once you've done that, then add your tufts because when you do your spraying of the varnish, sometimes the tufts can look like they're covered in alien slime. So you're like, that looks real gross. I mean, maybe that's what you're going for. No, and if that's what you're going for, you can do it on purpose. It is a choice. Right. But I did that for one model, and I'm like, wait, uh nuts. The gut all the tufts kind of look like they'd like kind of melted or wilted, or it's a very dewy planet. Yeah, but it's of course it's desert, so I'm like, that looks weird.

SPEAKER_04:

I'll usually paint the model first, um, and and leave the base to the very last step.

SPEAKER_01:

Yes, yep.

SPEAKER_04:

Um, I don't I don't I don't necessarily think that's right, but that's what I usually do. And so I'll do like like for the the Legion models where um you know they're going through the jungles, I'll have them already glued to the base when I paint the model. Yeah. And then I'll go in and I'll add the the texture and then I'll do uh for priming, I just do a brush on primer for those. Yep. Um, but I I usually do that because then I've got I've after I've painted the model, I have a a good a better idea of kind of how I want the base to kind of format. And I don't have a great way to kind of imagine that beforehand. I'm a more visual person, so seeing how the the final model looks. Now, there's there's obviously some disadvantages there where uh you know sometimes the mud cakes up onto their hey, it just means they've been hiking for a while.

SPEAKER_01:

That's what I said. Yeah, no, I um one of the benefits of putting the model on the base first and then putting material around and priming is that you can push that um uh push your basing paste, whatever you're using, kind of push it around the model and make it look like they're in it as opposed to resting on top of it, right? Right. So you can actually make it look good. Um, now a lot of basing materials from Citadel, from Monument, whatever, they come in colors, right? You can get a Mars red tactic uh I was gonna say tactical rock. Tactical mud. Tactical mud. Yes, you know, your Mars red um texture paste, citadel makes different pastes as well. So you can just go put the model on, paint it, prime uh paint it, done, and then just do some that and walk away. Totally fine. Um, I found that on the whole, like I said, 90% of the time, I'm gonna put all the texture materials on there first so that when I prime it, it's all like it's all starting from uh a base color. Yeah. And I go from there. Because you know, when I put a rock on, it might be concrete, weird gray, but I don't want it, I want it to be more uh like a Mars uh version versus or whatever. So I can prime it, paint it, and make a look that I want I want it to look like. And then like for Marvel Chrysler's protocol, then I'll take a little bit of that finer grit and a couple other rocks, and maybe just drop a little bit on top of there to add some pizzazz to vive uh to make the base look give a little color to it, a little dynamic, as it were. Make the tactical rock look more tactical, you know. Because I do love the fact that with Marvel Chris's protocol like this, it's been exploded, like they've blown up a building and they've landed in the rubble. Like having a bunch of city rubble lying around, street signs, obviously uh Marvel Christ's protocol does come with um bottles and cups. By the way, if you're building Marvel's Christmas Protocol, when you look at the bases and you snip them off, you'll notice little weird uh extra bits. And I just threw them away. I did not actually look at them. So the first I would say the first 10, 12 uh protocol models I built, I just snipped the bases off and threw it away. It was not until later when I was played a game or two, and I'm like, oh, those are those are cool. Where'd you get those? Uh I can't remember who I was playing with. They're like, well, those are the plastic red solo cops. Yeah. I mean non-uh product placement cops. Yes. Uh, or a bottle. Wait, that's the same thing. Same thing. Um, that come with a model. I'm like, what? They're they come with the bases? And he's like, yeah, so look at the base, they're attached. And I was like, so now I got a nice little bag saved up for them. So I've got to go.

SPEAKER_04:

I've got I've saved all of them, but I haven't used any of them. So I've got like all of them sitting in my in my hobby box, just like someday, maybe I'll glue them to a couple of the bases.

SPEAKER_01:

Maybe. I try. This is something again, something uh to do uh that I find fun is when I'm doing like a 40k or a Sigmar base, look at the model and you spin it around. Uh if you give like the non-golden angle side the back side of it, so there's the front side of it where he's coming at you, and you turn it around like I try to add something a little bit fun on the back side. So when I'm moving across the table, there's something interesting to look at, you know, something fun. So on almost every Marvel Crisis protocol. Just usually look at the butts. Just look at their butts. Well, you gotta make sure they're painted, you know, you gotta get some.

SPEAKER_04:

Well, yeah, no, I spent extra time on the extra time on the butts. All the butts.

SPEAKER_01:

All the butts. Gotta make sure that's painting.

SPEAKER_04:

I know that's what I'm gonna look at the most.

SPEAKER_01:

Some dynamic tactical butts over there. Um, so almost every one of my Marvel uh guys either has a Dr. Pepper can or a Mountain Dew can. Nice. Dropped in there. Uh sometimes a bottle, but meh, so a solo cup or the crushed uh soda can. I'm like, how do I make this look like a Dr. Pepper can? Of course you can't read it. I'm like, okay, the that Dr. Pepper has that unique, like what reddish purple, purplish red?

SPEAKER_04:

Pepper, almost a maroon.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah. So I try to add that in there, and I'm like, well, is it coke today? What what soda pop would they be drinking? Or what or is it a red Volcan?

SPEAKER_04:

Oh, do you do you try and like figure out what each character's favorite? I don't keep up that far.

SPEAKER_01:

Can we can we please have this discussion? All right, so Wolverine. Wolverine. Um he probably really into it. I mean it's beer. He he drinks a beer. It's beer. Yeah, yeah. There's a lot of beer bottles around that cool.

SPEAKER_04:

It's definitely beer. Yeah. Uh Bishop loves energy drinks. Cyclops. Uh oh, that's a Diet Coke guy if I've ever seen one.

SPEAKER_01:

Oh, definitely. Well, I was almost gonna say Bung Do Code Red.

SPEAKER_04:

No, Diet Coke.

SPEAKER_01:

He's definitely a Diet Coke.

SPEAKER_04:

He's definitely Diet Coke. I love it. Just as plain as it gets, and then the like just the diet version.

SPEAKER_01:

He just dips a little bit. He doesn't want to get too crazy. He's a little healthy, but it's a little bad.

SPEAKER_04:

I think I think when he's feeling particularly saucy, like after he gets in a fight with Wolverine, he probably puts like a slice of lime in his diet coke.

SPEAKER_05:

Oh, just yes!

SPEAKER_01:

Wolverine craps over in a beer and he's like, What are you doing there, Cyclops? Shut up. I'm drinking my diet.

SPEAKER_04:

What would Storm's favorite soda be?

SPEAKER_01:

Well, Storm's favorite soda might be uh well, okay. I was gonna say there's a Storm soda, but no. Um Sprite or Starry. Like, it would be fun, bubbly, but nothing too crazy. But a little, yeah. A little short of seven up, like like that sort of lemon lime, a little mix. Yeah, yeah. Uh like Rogue and Gambit from the South. Well, they I think I think Gambit would be a Dr. Pepper guy, personally.

SPEAKER_04:

No, I think Gambit's Mountain Dew all the way. I think he's a Mountain Dew. Is he Mountain Dewer? Yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

All right. I could see that.

SPEAKER_04:

I think I'll give him that. I could see Rogue being like uh a Dr. Pepper, but she like puts a shot of Southern comfort in it.

SPEAKER_01:

Oh God! Oh, you just gave me a little heartburn right there. Yeah, just a little like you know, don't keep it plain. Oh my gosh. Uh all right. Absolutely. What would Beast? So Beast, what would he drink? I don't think he would drink soda. No, um yeah. Would he like have a non-alcoholic beer every now and then?

SPEAKER_04:

Beast strikes me as the kind of guy that would drink like strictly water, but if he's at like a party and he's having a good time, he might like just have a martini.

SPEAKER_01:

Oh, totally.

SPEAKER_04:

Right? Yes. But it's good, but he he probably doesn't drink any soda, any beer.

SPEAKER_01:

If if it well, if it's bis water, is it bubbly water? Is it sparkling water or regular water? That's good.

SPEAKER_04:

Yeah, he's a he's a LaCroix LaCroix guy.

SPEAKER_01:

Oh no, he's definitely a LaCroix.

SPEAKER_04:

Beast is LaCroix. Yeah. Uh-huh. We got there. Yeah, yeah. 100%. 100%.

SPEAKER_01:

He's a LaCroix.

SPEAKER_04:

He's never been so LaCroix.

SPEAKER_01:

Oh my gosh. I love it. I love it.

SPEAKER_04:

Oh my goodness. What about Jean Gray? Jean!

SPEAKER_01:

Gene! Gene! Gene! Um, what would Gene Gray drink? Gene. I want jeans. She wears jeans. Um I think Gene Gray would is it similar to Scott? I think they both drink the diet.

SPEAKER_04:

I think she probably goes for just regular Coca-Cola.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, I think she balances him out a little bit more.

SPEAKER_04:

She, yeah. She's got a little bit more spice.

SPEAKER_01:

She does have a little more spice. I mean, the Dark Phoenix does like to need a little kid.

SPEAKER_04:

I think she was Diet Coke drinker until the Phoenix Force.

SPEAKER_01:

That is true. Once she came back from the dead, she's like, no, I want it all. Yeah. Yeah. I need all the caffeine, I need all the sugar. Uh-huh. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Uh okay, so we got Gene Gray, we got Beast. Iceman. What does Iceman drink?

SPEAKER_04:

Oh man.

SPEAKER_01:

Because he can make anything super cold and delicious.

SPEAKER_04:

Yeah, I feel like he just drinks vodka, right? Because it can't freeze.

SPEAKER_01:

Oh my gosh. That is true. What yeah. He just drinks uh you just blew my mind. He just walks around. I'm imagining him walking around with like a Costco bottle of vodka, just like attached to his hand because he's frozen and he's just like, whatever, my day off. Yeah. Like him and Wolverine. Him and Wolverine are hanging out by the pool, and he's just like, guys, I just I just gotta chill. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Straight, just straight vodka. But on the days he has to work, maybe he too is like a tonic, like LaCroix, like that sort of, I just need some bubbly. I think he's I think he's more of a chill.

SPEAKER_04:

I think he might go with like a soda, like a like a Mountain Dew or a root beer. Yeah. And then because of his his freezing powers, he's able to freeze it into well, a slush. You remember those mugs when we were kids?

SPEAKER_01:

Oh yeah, no, no, I still have them. The free mugs. You put them in the freezer and they stay cold.

SPEAKER_04:

Put soda in in it and then it like turns the soda into a slush. Yes. It was like these special insulated weird plastic things. Yeah, I'm sure they're great. They're red and blue.

SPEAKER_01:

I'm sure they're great for the environment too.

SPEAKER_04:

Of course. Like everything from the 80s. It was great, yes. Including us.

SPEAKER_01:

The oh no, you're you're well. I don't know. I think he might be like besides the straight vodka. I think he might also be a like seven up starry type. I feel like he's he's spicier than that. Yeah, a little spicy.

SPEAKER_04:

I feel like Bobby Drake is spicier than that.

SPEAKER_01:

Well, he's turned into some the original Bobby. She was LaCroix before the Phoenix Force. There you go. That is true. Yeah. She was and then she went to the light side or dark side. Well, Bobby, Bobby, if I remember right, has been messed with and changed and upgraded, and now he's like almost one of those omega level mutants because Emma Frost like unlocked his inner power or whatever. Sounds about right. I haven't read as much as I wish I have. I haven't kept up with it. My comic books is way behind. I read, I really only read Wolverine now, and that's really it. Um but now that he's like an omega level, I can literally make another ice age kind of guy. Right. I think now he's straight vodka. Gotcha. Yeah. I think now he's definitely like, I'm that I this is the only thing that takes the edge off now. I've seen so much. Yeah. You know, now Angel. Angel, no, no, he's are we talking Angel or Archangel? Well, I was about to say, at first it's just Angel. Right. And then he gets messed with and turned into the Archangel. I think I think Angel was the 7 Up guy. Cherry 7 Up. Cherry 7 Up. Oh my gosh. Maybe even like the Shirley Temple kind of guy. I don't want to get too crazy.

SPEAKER_04:

I mean, that's all Cherry Seven Up is, is Shirley Temple in a can.

SPEAKER_01:

Yes. Uh I agree. I hold I agree with that. Archangel, though, when he goes, when he gets uh when he gets the wings taken off and replaced with the metal, with when he becomes the Barks Root beer.

SPEAKER_04:

It's root beer, but it's caffeinated.

SPEAKER_01:

I was going way darker. Like, seriously, like he would go to like monster energy, like serious, like he is gone to the I need much like Iceman. I need something that takes the edge. I don't want to drink because if I drink I get angry and no one likes it when I'm angry. Because then I just should start shooting my like wing daggers at you randomly. But I think he's designed. I I love it. I can't, I'm slowly working on painting him. Uh, because uh it's all slow right now. Um I love that character design. It was so crazy, so over the top. But I think what what would be the like maybe almost four loco level of insanity for that guy? Four loco was an alcoholic energy beverage, which is terrible. Oh my gosh. But for all you kids out there, do not do not drink that stuff. It's oh my gosh. But I think he is definitely a I mean it it was pulled off of shelves. Yeah. Can you even get it anymore?

SPEAKER_04:

I think they re-released it um recent relatively recently, like in the last couple of years. And uh and the re-release is is a little bit uh safer. Tamer, as it were.

SPEAKER_01:

Oh no, but I think Archangel's definitely like sitting sitting in the pool side next to them, like I have a six pack of monster energy. And like he just does the whole thing. Yeah. He just opens all six up. Who's our grape soda purveyor? The oh, who would drink grape? Who would drink grape soda? Oh, I would think either X23 or Honey Badger. I think so. I think so.

SPEAKER_04:

I feel like X23 would be like the Mountain Dew girl.

SPEAKER_01:

Well, she's well, she's seen some stuff. Again, like as the more stuff you've seen and gone through, the edgier you get. So she might be Mountain Dew code red. She wants that. Yeah, I could see that. I I just had one not too long ago after a while, and oh my gosh.

SPEAKER_04:

I no, no, no, I got this. Oh yeah, oh yeah. X23 is code red Mountain Dew.

SPEAKER_01:

Yep.

SPEAKER_04:

Honey Badger is Mountain Dew Baja Blast.

SPEAKER_01:

Yes! I love it! Totally. All right, so the one person we haven't quite hit yet is what would be.

SPEAKER_04:

I mean, we we haven't hit many people because the X-Men Raw. Because it's massive.

SPEAKER_01:

There's two, well, there's a couple I'm thinking of now. So Professor X, since we've got all the original ones, is Professor X Professor, is Professor X a soda drinker? And if so, what would what is his beverage of choice?

SPEAKER_04:

I think he occasionally has like a Coca-Cola, but it's the it's the classic, like the raw sugar version, like the Mexican. He gets the Mexican Coca-Cola. Yeah, yeah. Um, because that's what he grew up on, right? Like when he was a kid or a teenager, that's that's what he had. Yeah, he had original. So now he doesn't drink very much, but every once in a while, if he if he gets a soda, if he has the choice, yeah, he's gonna go for the Mexican Coke. I agree.

SPEAKER_01:

I absolutely agree.

SPEAKER_04:

Because it reminds him of his childhood and when he had legs.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, before before cloak classic, and they changed the recipe. Yeah, like I just want regular Coke. And that stuff is Yeah, when it still had cocaine in it. I almost did a smit chick, ladies and gentlemen. That was awesome. Yes, Professor Rex does a rail and then drinks Mexican Coke, and that's why he always sends his kids off to die. Wait. You're not wrong. You're not wrong. All right. So speaking of some of the leaders of our teams, we have Cable, who is a leader of the uh of uh X-Force. He's the leader of X-Force. So Cable, the time traveling.

SPEAKER_04:

I feel like if you're the leader of a team named X-Force, it's gotta be code Red Mountain Dew, right?

SPEAKER_01:

Almost. Well, what is the most oh no, maybe Cable it like drinks jolt or something? I could see jolts. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Cable might need the most caffeine available in a soda product. He's not quite as bad as energy necessarily, because he's like, I don't know. Right. But does he do like jolt? Does he travel back in time and pick up a jolt cold? Oh, yeah, he's got time travel.

SPEAKER_04:

Why wouldn't he go back for jolt?

SPEAKER_01:

I mean, I remember in the days of like busting out the uh that's great.

SPEAKER_04:

Uh yeah, cables absolutely traveling back in time, grabbing a case of jolt and then going back to the future. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

What's that, dude?

unknown:

Time travel.

SPEAKER_01:

Time travel.

SPEAKER_04:

Time travel.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah. Oh my gosh. We're having a great conversation. We're ending up our episode about. Do you want to join us? What soda pops would X-Men drink? And it's awesome. No, no, no. We've gotten on this great tangent and it's awesome.

SPEAKER_04:

This is this is the best tangent.

SPEAKER_01:

This is best podcasting ever. Oh the fuck. That's Jubilee.

SPEAKER_04:

That's Jubilee Humphrey. Jubilee. Oh no, no, no, no. Oh, wait, hold on. She's she's our grape soda. Jubilee's the grape soda drinking.

SPEAKER_01:

Dazzler. Dazzler's Fanta. All right.

SPEAKER_04:

Mike says Dazzler's Fanta.

SPEAKER_01:

Yes. Dazzler's Fanta. I love the fact. Okay, Jubilee grape soda. Grape soda. Dazzler, Fanta, all day, every day.

SPEAKER_04:

Um Orange Fanta.

SPEAKER_01:

But just Orange Fanta.

SPEAKER_04:

Like Mike didn't specify, but it's orange Fanta. No, no, absolutely. And Sunspot is pineapple Fanta.

SPEAKER_01:

Oh my gosh. I thought Sunspot might be the uh Joritos, the those guys. Now you're just getting racist. Yeah, I'm sorry, getting racist. Sorry, I'll cut that out. Come on. He could also be Mexican Coke.

SPEAKER_04:

He would love that. He's from South America. Not Central America. Well, it's all America.

SPEAKER_01:

I think. It's Brazil, right? Honestly, I don't know. Sunspots were. 90% sure he's Brazil. I thought he was Central America, but it could be Brazil. Alright, so we've got the major, we've got the main core of X-Men. And then X-Force, got cable.

SPEAKER_04:

Well, I mean, we didn't hit all of the OG cast. Oh, hold on. Well, then we got Colossus. OG team. Yeah, Colossus isn't an OG team. He's he's I think he's he's more of a core team to like you and me. Yeah. But Banshee was core team, right?

unknown:

First.

SPEAKER_04:

No, no, no, no.

SPEAKER_01:

Banshee was uh part of the revamp back in the the giant size X-Men. So the You think so?

SPEAKER_04:

Oh yeah, yeah. So the core class. I thought Banshee was on the first class. It was Angel, Marvel Girl, Cyclops, Beast before he was blue. And Cyclops. I said Cyclops.

SPEAKER_01:

Oh, you did? Okay. And Cyclops. And uh Cyclops, Beast, Iceman, Gene Gray. Iceman is the one I was missing. Yeah. I think that's all of them. Yeah. So Banshee is Banshee's a later guy. He definitely comes in. Banshee not? No, I know. So because we have Professor X and all that stuff. So some of the new class of X-Men. I'm gonna look this up because I'm pretty sure I'm right. Oh Paul's like, no, you're wrong. I'm like, no, no, no. Banshee came in. Uh Banshee came in around the time of giant size X-Men.

SPEAKER_04:

Uncanny X-Men number one, released in 1963. I'm looking at the cover right now. Yes. On the cover, we've got Angel, before he was Archangel. Sorry. Holding a bazooka.

SPEAKER_01:

Yes, Angel holding a bazooka. Uh, but he's not really holding a bazooka on cover one, is he?

SPEAKER_04:

He's literally holding a bazooka. I'll show you this in a second. Okay. You got Beast holding some kind of T-shaped trapeze thing. Yeah. Uh Cyclops being lame as always. Marvel Girl being just the most dramatic she can possibly be. All drama. And Iceman is just throwing snowballs past Magneto. He doesn't even want to hit Magneto with his snowballs. He's just throwing them past.

SPEAKER_01:

He's throwing them at Toad that's behind him.

SPEAKER_04:

I love that Iceman used to look like just a mummy, but snow.

SPEAKER_01:

He's like a melty, snotty mummy.

SPEAKER_04:

Yeah, he looks so bad.

SPEAKER_01:

He was so bad.

SPEAKER_04:

Uh, love Jack Kirby. His Is fantastic.

SPEAKER_01:

Sometimes the character designs were interesting.

SPEAKER_04:

Sometimes the designs needed to be refined a little bit. Right. Notably.

SPEAKER_01:

Now it's Professor X on there in the background.

SPEAKER_04:

There's no Professor X and there is no Banshee. Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_01:

Okay, I want to see this cover real quick because I'm very curious. It's a bazooka. You know, I'm gonna Why is Angel holding a bazooka? Why is so Angel's flying in from the side holding a bazooka? And then Beast, non-blue beast, as you said, is swinging in on a random trapeze, which reminds me of the spider verse. Like, I can always shoot a spider web out and hit something, Spider-Man, no matter where I am. It's great.

SPEAKER_04:

Yeah, like what is that even attached? I mean, obviously, this is a a uh what's the word I'm looking for? Uh this is a just like it's just a comic book cover. There's there's nothing going on in the background, it's like blank white with like a purple part, just to kind of give it some definition. But they're we don't know where they are. No. Um this trapeze is just swinging in.

SPEAKER_01:

What is it hooked to? Yeah. Alright, alright. It's hooked to obviously the soda machine that they're that Magneto's trying to steal from them.

SPEAKER_04:

Uh the story of X-Men, uncanny X-Men issue one. But if you look at the. I missed this fabulous first issue about Magneto's stealing soda machines.

SPEAKER_01:

So, uh, oil. So if you look up, I think it's called Giant Size X-Men. Uh, I want to say it's issue like 181 or something like that. It's like 1980s. Yes, when they rebooted and redid it with Storm, uh Wolverine a little bit, Colossus, uh, some of what we would consider classic X-Men.

SPEAKER_04:

What what like a lot of the um SAD kids. So it's 1975. Issue number one. Yes. Um, so in the background, there's like a black and white shadow version of the original class. Yes. Yep.

SPEAKER_01:

Because they're going off to rescue them.

SPEAKER_04:

Almost in their original forms. The only difference is Marvel Girl is wearing the yellow-green Marvel Girl costume. Right, right. And Iceman looks like a human being.

SPEAKER_01:

Not a melty swamp zombie.

SPEAKER_04:

Correct. Whatever. And then the flying through the issue issue is Wolverine, Storm, uh, Cyclops is so lame. Uh Colossus, Nightcrawler, and Alright, I'm gonna help out here.

SPEAKER_01:

Is it Tomahawk?

SPEAKER_04:

Do you want my my thing? Oh my god.

SPEAKER_01:

Shoot. Who is that? He was in He was in there, but he's the brother of shoot! Mike, people are coming in. Uh, I'm gonna get our geek card. This is not havoc, is it? No, no, no. It's the brother of the other Native American Indian superhero. I want to say it's like war not it's not Warhawk. Uh Thunder Who's on the cover of it? All right, so great radio. Ah, so this is great radio. All right, so the team consisted of Storm, Nightcrawler, Colossus, and the other person is Thunderbird. Thunderbird, okay. Right? And Thunderbird has a brother who also is a mutant. Um, because I think in the in this issue or in this storyline, Thunderbird gets killed. Sorry, spoilers. Thunderbird gets killed, and I think his brother Warpath comes in to try to like figure it out, get a little like, you guys killed my brother, and like, well, we technically didn't. So he was the more the original Morph. Right. Exactly. Uh from the yes, from the movies. Um the cartoons cartoons and stuff. Who's well Morph was in Morph was in first class the movie as well. Or was that no?

SPEAKER_04:

That was um what is his name?

SPEAKER_01:

Darwin. Absorption. Darwin. Darwin. That was Darwin, yeah. Yes, so you're right. But Morph hasn't made it.

SPEAKER_04:

So Morph was a character that was created for and introduced in the 90s.

SPEAKER_01:

The original X-Men animation show, right?

SPEAKER_04:

The original original X-Men 90 1997 series. Yeah. And uh, spoiler alert, he's killed in the first episode. Um but then it turns out he wasn't killed in you know, uh uh comic book stuff. Uh so Morph is was an original character, and then he was so popular by the end of that series that he was actually brought into the comic books.

SPEAKER_01:

Oh, I I did not know that.

SPEAKER_04:

And that's when pretty cool. Morph uh Start was introduced as like the almost Voldemort looking face where he's got like the almost no facial features that he can then turn into that he can then morph into whatever. Um and then in recent history, they've also uh changed morph from being male to being a uh non-binary character, which is pretty interesting.

SPEAKER_01:

I mean, he she they I mean it's morph. Yeah, it's morph.

SPEAKER_04:

Whatever morph is could turn into whatever is whatever they want. So yeah, morph morph is now non-binary. I think that's cool.

SPEAKER_01:

That'd be that is pretty cool. Um, all right, so we've hit on almost everybody. I am I'm sorry, I'm loving this freaking soda thing. I just I love it. I thought we were free. No, we are not free of the soda. Um Colossus. Colossus. So of the so we have of the old, we have the original X-Men, and then we have the giant size reissue. So we've got Storm already. Colossus is Diet Doctor Rapper. Totally. Well, yes, what well, he's from Russia. Right. And what drink would it be like? This is amazing. I don't know. I'd only know I don't know what Russian sodas.

SPEAKER_04:

I don't know, I don't know what Russian sodas.

SPEAKER_01:

So obviously Colossus does not drink.

SPEAKER_04:

Oh, wait, no, I've got it. Colossus drinks big red.

unknown:

Ah!

SPEAKER_03:

Yes!

SPEAKER_01:

Yes! Oh my gosh, whatever a non-brand Dr. Pepper, right? Oh my gosh, that would be great.

SPEAKER_04:

Big red. No, big red was the strawberry soda.

SPEAKER_01:

Was this oh my gosh, you don't remember Big Red? No, I thought it was the Dr. Pepper off brand that you find on the no, okay.

SPEAKER_04:

Big red was that that bright red soda. It used to be everywhere. Uh-huh. And it's strawberry flavor. You can still find it some places, but it's not very, not very common.

SPEAKER_01:

Does not sound delicious.

SPEAKER_04:

It's uh, I believe it's through the Seven Up Company. Okay. If if you saw it andor tasted it, it would like trigger childhood memories for you, I promise. Oh yeah. Uh Big Red was huge. My kid loves it.

SPEAKER_01:

Oh my gosh, it's great. Um, okay, so uh, and these guys, so we already have Wolverine. A Wolverine does not drink soda. Um and then we need uh Nightcrawler. What would Nightcrawler what soda would Nightcrawler drink? The stout Christian German. Real quick, Nightcrawler would be Sprite Sprite.

SPEAKER_04:

Absolutely Sprite. Yeah. Maybe even seven up like maybe he's doing the off-brand stuff.

SPEAKER_01:

He could be a LaCroix guy.

SPEAKER_04:

But I he has in his fridge, and he doesn't like telling people about it. He he keeps it a secret. In his fridge, he has a box wine.

SPEAKER_01:

Absolutely. Oh my gosh, that's great. Um, well he's embarrassed about it.

SPEAKER_04:

No, he decides to absolutely have box wine.

SPEAKER_01:

He doesn't bring it out very often. No, no, but it's mostly absolutely a sprite guy. Oh my gosh. Well, um, I think we're at time, shockingly enough. Uh, y'all, I hope y'all had fun listening to the show.

SPEAKER_03:

Weird episode.

SPEAKER_01:

The show that we planned on that we didn't record that we'll save for another time. Uh run talking about basing and inspiration and then what sodas would exist. What would X-Men drink? What would X-Men drink? I love it.

SPEAKER_04:

Um I hope this was as informative to you as it was to us.

SPEAKER_01:

I think it was fantastic. Um, I want y'all, everybody, uh, check out their Patreon. Um, there are some changes coming to it. Uh keep an eye out on that. We'll let you know uh what is happening, what's out there, and what is being released, because I know there's some stuff happening, and it's all for the good of the world. What happened? Um, well, Paul, I think that's about it, dude. Shall we wrap this up and get back to real life? I'll allow it. I'll allow it. All right, Paul. It's been awesome. We'll see you guys next time on the Fucking Talk Podcast. Bye. Bye. Bye nice.