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Jeremie and Edouard Harris - What Makes US-China Alignment Around AGI So Hard (US-China AGI Relations, Episode 2)

Daniel Faggella Season 5 Episode 2

This is an interview with Jeremie and Edouard Harris, Canadian researchers with backgrounds in AI governance and national security consulting, and co-founders of Gladstone AI.

In this episode, Jeremie and Edouard explain why trusting China on AGI is dangerous, highlight ongoing espionage in Western labs, explore verification tools like tamper-proof chips, and argue that slowing China’s AI progress may be vital for safe alignment.

This the second installment of our "US-China AGI Relations" series - where we explore pathways to achieving international AGI cooperation while avoiding conflicts and arms races.

This episode referred to the following other essays:
-- The International Governance of AI – We Unite or We Fight: https://emerj.com/international-governance-ai/
-- Potentia and Potestas: Achieving The Goldilocks Zone of AGI Governance: https://danfaggella.com/potestas

Listen to this episode on The Trajectory Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-trajectory/id1739255954

Watch the full episode on YouTube: https://youtu.be/jf6Oy3C3mLA

See the full article from this episode: https://danfaggella.com/harris1

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