Kelly Sullivan Walden: Dream Interpretation, Subconscious Guidance & Soul Goals | Ep70

Kelly Sullivan Walden (aka Doctor Dream) is a dream expert, spiritual counselor, podcaster, TEDx speaker and bestselling author devoted to awakening the world to the power of dreams. Her slogan: DON’T TAKE YOUR DREAMS, LYING DOWN.

From tandem dreaming with her sister as a child to an NDE at age 40, to interpreting dreams for prime time TV hosts of E! Entertainment, Dancing with the Stars, and the Real. During her 2008 NDE she realized how similar dying was to dreaming. Since then Kelly’s become passionate about empowering her clients (stay-at-home moms, celebrities, entrepreneurs and industry leaders) to decode their dreams and manifest their deepest, most soulful desires...by allowing their dreams (and dreaming mind) to do the heavy-lifting.

Kelly’s known as one of America’s premiere dream analysts, a certified clinical hypnotherapist, with a Doctor of Ministry degree. With eleven books, seven oracle decks, and the Dreamifesting podcast, she says: “Let your sleeping dreams illuminate what’s in your blind sight and propel you toward the life of your wildest (waking) dreams.”

Kelly’s a Los Angeles native (go Dodgers!) who lives in Topanga, California, with her husband, Dana, and yappy Pomeranian puppy, Pearl.

Christian sits down with Kelly Sullivan Walden — internationally known as Dr. Dream — a dream expert, bestselling author of 11 books, TEDx speaker, and creator of the transformative Dreamifesting method. After a profound near-death experience at age 40 revealed how similar dreaming is to dying, Kelly dedicated her life to helping people decode their dreams, access subconscious wisdom, and manifest a life aligned with their soul goals.

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Core Themes

• Decode dreams
• JET SET method
• Dreamifesting
• Ego goals vs. soul goals
• Subconscious mind
• how to create a dream cocoon bedtime ritual
• Dream messages
• Using dreams to heal emotional wounds

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Transcript

Christian Mauerer
What's up, beautiful people? This is Christian from the Successful Spiritualpreneur Podcast. And today I'm super honored to have Kelly Sullivan Walden on the show. She is known as Dr. Dream. And she's a dream expert, TEDx speaker, bestselling author who helps people decode their dreams and manifest their deepest desires. And after a near death experience at the age of 40, that revealed something to her that how similar dying is to dreaming. And Kelly dedicated her life to teaching people not to take their dreams lying down. She's the author of 11 books, creator of seven Oracle decks, and host of the Dreamifesting podcast, helping everyone from stay at home parents to celebrities unlock what's hiding in their blind spots. Welcome to the show, Kelly.

Kelly Sullivan Walden
Christian, it's so wonderful to be with you. You are such a lovely love pixel. It's wonderful to be in your presence.

Christian Mauerer
Thank you. Yes.

Talking about the name Love Pixel, because that was a dream many, years ago of mine. in my life, I... No, wasn't like it was... I was a waking dream. ⁓ But in my life, things have always been about combining the tangible with the intangible, right? That's why I love Pixel.

Kelly Sullivan Walden
What? That came to you in a dream?

Mmm.

Christian Mauerer
or another brand I have started recently is called One with Tea. It's a tea brand, right? So tea is a tangible part and then becoming one with it is the intangible part. So the combination of those two worlds, like the masculine and the feminine, the yin and the yang, I think that for me in my life, that is where, at that intersection is where I live a lot because it's so rich.

Kelly Sullivan Walden
Yes.

Mmm.

I love that. talk about that so often when I sometimes I work with authors because I've written so many books and I love to support people that have books in them. And one thing I'll talk about in their titles is exactly what you just said. Kind of finding a title that is both

that's kind of a cognitive dissonance, kind of like bringing those, the ethereal to the material. that, I mean, dream-affesting is exactly that. It's like, you know, the higher, more lofty, etheric, aspect with like, okay, how can it grow corn? How can it become material?

and help us in our lives. And just like chicken soup for the soul. And that was like the, you one of the most, you know, successful books ever or series, book series, I should say. But yeah, that's wonderful. Love, Pixel. Sweet.

Christian Mauerer
Yeah, yeah, it's interesting how things tend to, like the things that really come true, they become manifest, right? Those are the ones that...

it takes time, I guess, because, know, in in a sense, if everything would manifest that we want, that we desire, we would probably spend more time fixing what we just desired, rather than, you understand?

Kelly Sullivan Walden
Thank

⁓ yeah, ⁓ absolutely.

my God, I think of this. There was a show on television a long time ago, probably before your time, called The Twilight Zone. Not Twilight, but The Twilight Zone. it was, there was this one episode where there's this bank robber that gets shot at while he's like in mid-bank robbery. And he goes to this place that is beautiful and full of light and magical. And there's all these beautiful women that are all over him.

and he plays pool and every shot he hits, it goes straight to where he wants it. He plays darts, it goes always to the bull's eye. Everything he does is perfect. And there's this kind of concierge and he says to him eventually, I am so bored. I think you should send me to the other place.

And the guy says, what makes you think you aren't in the other place? ⁓ he was in hell. It seemed like heaven to have everything. But then it was like, yeah, we don't really want that. We want to be able to kind of earn. ⁓

what we get. And if we did, as Abraham Hicks says, if we got everything we wanted in the moment we wanted it, it would be, we'd be in for a world of hurt. It'd be hard. So it's good that there's a little bit of a gap between desire and fulfillment.

Christian Mauerer
Yeah. So tell us a little bit more about dream-affesting. Let's dive into how you've come up with that, what's behind it. Yeah. I mean, you have, think, so many pathways in that book that lead together, you know?

Kelly Sullivan Walden
Mm-hmm. So dream-affesting is really at the heart of what I've been doing for my whole career as Dr. Dream, because I think I'm a very spiritual person, but I'm also very practical. I think of myself as a practical mystic. And there's a shaman friend of mine that says, does it grow corn?

And I love that saying because it's so simple. Like if you do something, it make a difference? Does it really come back to you? And not Monsanto corn that is like, you know, not good for you, but like does it grow healthy corn? And to me, dreams and dream work does grow corn.

when I pay attention to my dreams, even if it's just a little bit, even if I don't spend an hour. Like sometimes I just have a few minutes to look at a dream, know, write it down and just, you know, do something very quickly. But if I have a dream kind of on my mind, like today, for example, one little piece of a dream that stood out was this mushroom, this kind of, it's this color, the color of my shirts, of people are listening. It's kind of a...

a magenta maroon color. This big maroon mushroom that is growing on my property that's huge. It's like this big. And I just I've walked by it a bunch of times going, that's interesting. But it showed up in my dream like.

show like pay attention to me. So I took pictures of it today and I sent it to my best friend Joey Sutton who's a holistic health practitioner and she and I know she and I are going to talk about it later like what is this and so there's something about like I have no idea what that's going to lead to or if that's significant at all but

It's what I do. I pay attention to those little taps on the shoulder because of where the conversation might lead. It might have nothing to do with mushrooms. It might have everything to do with it. It might be, my god, that's so poisonous. You've got to get rid of it because it hurt your dog. Or it might be like, my god, this is a phenomenon. who knows? But there's been so many instances where I have taken

little pixel of a dream. It doesn't even have to be the whole dream. And I integrated into my life and it has brought changes to my life. Like this this dream that I had that I was swimming with dolphins and I became one of them. And I can and that was years ago but I can still remember this feeling of flow. In my dream I woke up sobbing.

and my pillow was drenched with tears and I had this awareness like, my God, I finally understand flow. And by contrast, who I had been before that dream was so robotic compared to who I was in that dream. And so that it's kind of like it's a North star for me to meditate on, for me to just get into my soul. So, then, ⁓ P.S.

my contact lenses didn't work later that same day. And like my eyes were blurry, so I had to go to the eye doctor and they measured my eyes. And the reason my contacts weren't working is because my eyesight had improved.

so much that I needed a whole new prescription so I could see properly. So that dream actually healed to a good degree my eyesight. know, dreams are dreams are magical. And those are just a few of my examples. But I've got so many others from myself and also other people that actually use their dreams to win the lottery to to meet the person of their dreams and.

to find the career of their dreams and so many things. So dreams are practical and that's the nature of dream-affesting. It's a 12-week journey. Some people do it in 12 months, but it's divided into sections so that you could do it on your own with a group so you could go really deep with the exercises and in the end become a dream-affester, become somebody who

uses the intelligence of the subconscious mind, the dreaming mind, as a practical tool to make our waking lives better.

Christian Mauerer
Hmm. And what are some, like, is there a simple exercise that you can say from your book or that people can apply like right away to get into a better state before going to bed?

Kelly Sullivan Walden
Yeah.

So one of the first exercises I have people do in the book. ⁓

is called to identify your soul goal. So Christian, I'm going to borrow you for an example on how you do this. So we start with a goal. So if you'd be willing to talk about a goal, this is so there's four steps in dream of festing. This is step one, identifying the soul goal. You start by just something that you're working on. Like it could be more success in your business. It could be having another child. It could be whatever. So is there any goal that you're working on in your life right now?

Christian Mauerer
I would say to touch one million lives with the tea that I bring into the world.

Kelly Sullivan Walden
Okay, so to touch one million lives with the tea that you're bringing into this world. I love that. That's excellent. Okay, perfect. So let's imagine that I'm a genie and I just granted your wish.

You've it. You've reached a million. You've touched a million people. A million people have drank your tea and have been like, ⁓ this is delicious. my God. So you're in that reality.

If you could see yourself, you're sparkling a little bit more brightly than you were even just a few minutes before. So how does it feel to be in this reality where you it's, not a goal now. It's something that's already happening. What does that feel like?

Christian Mauerer
To me it feels like I've created like a unified field in a way. You know, because it's the creation that I've brought forth that has given people a state or, you know, has done something in their lives. ⁓ And if it just does 10 % of what it has done in my life, T, ⁓ then I'll be very impacted by that.

Kelly Sullivan Walden
So you've created this unified field this connectedness and even if they just get 10 % of what you've gotten from it then People are better for it okay, so so just absorb that and Now what's underneath that? What does that allow you to feel or? Connect with if you have you are in this unified field all these people are benefiting from your tea

What's under that?

Christian Mauerer
A sense of oneness, community, shared experience.

relaxation, motivation because tea brings both, you know.

Kelly Sullivan Walden
relaxation and motivation and that that unit that unity.

Christian Mauerer
Yeah, tea is very interesting plant. It has yin and yang, right? It's not.

Kelly Sullivan Walden
Yes, like Love Pixel. Right. OK, so one more notch. Let's just go one more place. you've got all of this happening, this community, this yin and yang, the exhilaration and relaxation. Then one more. Yeah, what's under that?

What's the feeling?

Christian Mauerer
Kind of like showing people a part of themselves that they always had before, but they just forgot, right? It's like.

Kelly Sullivan Walden
Hmm

So showing

people an aspect of themselves that they've always had but they forgot. So what does that do for you? What is that? What's the give back to you when you're allowed to do that? When you're having that kind of an impact, what is that? What does that feel like inside your skin?

Christian Mauerer
Hmm, feels like a wise teacher.

Kelly Sullivan Walden
a wise teacher. the being a wise

Christian Mauerer
I can be the source of wisdom, of oneness, of connection for those people.

Kelly Sullivan Walden
So, teacher being the source of connection. So, it's all about these other people. And I keep wanting it to come closer to you, but the wise teacher, it's not about the wise teacher, it's about everybody else. And yet, there's some...

Christian Mauerer
Well, because I know

that the other people are me. You know, I have that awareness. Maybe not the times throughout the day, but now that you ask me, yes.

Kelly Sullivan Walden
Yeah, there you go.

There you go. there are also, you're also reminding yourself about all that was dormant is now activated and present. So.

Tell me how that feels ⁓ in a feeling. What does that feel like to be fully accessed as this wise teacher?

Christian Mauerer
I think, I feel that you're just ⁓ floating in this essence of oneness, right? When you give something ⁓ of yourself, which comes from inspired place to others and it gets reflected back and you see it has an impact. So it's just a reflection of yourself back.

Kelly Sullivan Walden
Yes. ⁓

That's great. So

floating in this essence of oneness. Okay, so floating in this essence of oneness. We'll pause there. So we could say that this little exercise has helped you to get to what I would call your sole goal. So this is what's driving it. This is what's under it. This floating essence of oneness.

Christian Mauerer
And it's also, I think the best way to describe it is like, I help people become one with tea, which is the name of the brand, one with themselves.

Kelly Sullivan Walden
One with Tea, one with themselves. And that's also you being at one with you, at one with them. There's no they, it's just this ecstatic state of oneness. Okay, so that's the goal. So that's the sole goal. So what we could say is, so step one, so it takes a long time to come to the sole goal initially, but once you've got it, you have it, so it's easy going forward.

So you've identified what we would call the ego goal, which, you know, it's just what's on the surface, which is having a million, what did you say? A million people touching a million people with this beautiful tea.

And so that's the ego goal and the soul goal is floating in this essence of oneness. So I want you to imagine that there's like this, it's kind of like ⁓ this hologram, this circle that is the floating in the essence of oneness. And in the center of it is a million people touched by this teeth.

So we call that whole, that hologram with your ego goal in the middle, we give it a nickname. It's your soul goal now. It contains all of those things. So what your job is to do is before you go to sleep tonight, if you don't already, get to...

little touchstones. Maybe it's some of the tea that you put on your nightstand so that you would think of a million people and you can write it down. And then also something that is maybe it's something from nature or something that you write down. You put a slip of paper on your nightstand that says floating in the essence of oneness. So you can remember not it's not just about a million people getting the tea. It's about that underneath quality.

and having access to it now without like even before a million people have been touched by the tea. So you start with that. So that's the bedtime ritual. I call that step one, creating a dream cocoon. So before you go to sleep, you sort of wrap yourself in the essence of

that feeling tone as well as the thought about that goal. And it's as if you're handing all of that over to your dreams and you go to sleep. And you say, dreams, pick up where I left off. Show me what I can't see, what's in my blind spot. So step two is you wake up in the morning and you remember some dream, even if it's just a pixel.

Even if it's just John Muir, the late great naturalist, he said if you only have one leaf from the forest, that leaf contains the entire forest. So one pixel, one love pixel from a dream, contains the whole dream. even, like I only remembered the mushroom from last night, but that's enough. That's okay. I don't have to have everything.

So step two is the remembering. Step three is the writing it down and putting it into my jet set formula. And we can talk about that later. It's a dream decoding formula that's at the center of dream-affesting. It's kind of the way to bridge the ethereal to the practical and to the human. So you put it through this formula. And then the last step is you do something tangible.

with whatever you remembered in your dream. Like I, with the mushroom, I took a picture of it, sent it to my friend and said, let's talk about this. What is this? What do you think? So that's it. That's the four steps. And you can practice that tonight starting with the dream cocoon, which is really placing the soul goal on your nightstand, thinking about that for a moment before you go to sleep. How does that sound? How does that land on you?

Christian Mauerer
Hmm.

That sounds lovely.

Kelly Sullivan Walden
you ⁓

Christian Mauerer
Sounds like I'm drinking tea and building empire while I'm sleeping.

Kelly Sullivan Walden
I'm gonna have to have some of this tea, Christian. You know we're gonna have to talk about this. I need to try it. I wanna help you get your million people. So.

Christian Mauerer
It's called one with Tea. Very simple.

Kelly Sullivan Walden
Okay, well, we have a sidebar conversation to have about this. But yeah.

Christian Mauerer
Yeah, yeah, absolutely.

Yeah, beautiful. Thank you so much for that exercise. I think it always helps to make things again, like you said, practical, you know, so people can go take this, listeners can go take this and apply it in their own lives. And like from your experience or from other maybe, you know, clients that you've worked with or, you know, just like the recent past, what is something that

Kelly Sullivan Walden
Yeah.

Christian Mauerer
don't know, questions are so different. Can you pin down any threads or trends or I don't know what you would call it. It's a very hard question because they're very individual. There's something that you've observed over the years.

Kelly Sullivan Walden
Yeah.

Yeah.

Sure. Well, I would say I could put dreams into two buckets, two different categories. There's, and I think our dreams are doing so much for us, but at the very least they're doing these two things. Either they're helping us to alchemize or get rid of what's in, what's holding us back, like a limited belief.

⁓ a thought about ourselves that isn't helping us. So something negative and that would be or something that's just not helpful. So we would put that in the nightmare category.

And I have a very specific way of working with nightmares that is very empowering. In fact, that's kind of at the core of my work is to look at every dream as if it comes to you in the service of your health, healing and wholeness, even if it's scary. And then there's the other category of dreams that would be more aspirational, that would be more about flying, floating, communing with Jesus, Buddha, Krishna, getting the answers, getting a download, having

I was just on ⁓ Lisa Gar, The Aware Show, and The Aware Show came directly out of a dream that she was on a train in her dream. And there was all this recording equipment on the train, on every car of the train. And there were all these different shows. And the train was called Aware.

and there was Deepak Chopra, Wayne Dyer, Marianne Williamson, all in these different, like these conversations that were super inspiring. And she was just like, my God, I want to be a part of this. And she woke up and thought, ⁓

I'm going to start the aware show and it came straight from that dream and it was this like locomotive of consciousness that was moving in this really positive direction and she's been doing it for all these years. So that would be like an aspirational dream. So my mushroom dream, maybe there's three categories where there's the WTF like what, you know, where it's not negative, it's not painful and it's not obviously aspirational, but it's kind of like

I have no idea what to do with that. I mean, and that requires me to have to practice what I preach, which is to put it through the jet set formula, which takes it from being like WTF into, okay, I know what this means. So those are kind of the, that kind of runs the gamut. And if you want, I mean, I can break down my own little dream or I could work on one of yours. If you've got a dream, we could see which category to put it into. If you'd like.

Christian Mauerer
I have had a dream recently. Not, I mean, obviously not many details, but I remember it was about my former teacher at university. He was a very like polarizing guy, very interesting guy. He was teaching about like art economy. Like it was a very like generalist, universalist class that we took with him.

Kelly Sullivan Walden
That's okay.

Mm-hmm.

Mm-hmm.

Christian Mauerer
And it was always

Kelly Sullivan Walden
Mm-hmm.

Christian Mauerer
very engaging because it wasn't about like marketing principles or math or accounting. was more, it just felt whole, more complex. And I remember in that dream, like I imagined him as like this father figure, right? Because there's this like already relationship where I'm the student, he's the teacher, right? ⁓

Kelly Sullivan Walden
Mmm. Mmm.

Mm.

Christian Mauerer
So that's all I got for now.

Kelly Sullivan Walden
Okay, perfect.

Okay, is there any more any other details? If not, that's fine. This is plenty to work with.

Christian Mauerer
Another detail is that ⁓ he is bisexual. He's gay. that was like, was among students, was always like, you know, it was this controversy that was like, yeah, he's like, because it's not as common, I would say, in Germany as it is in the US, right? So was more stigma around that topic. ⁓ Even though, like, I don't mind, I always thought.

Kelly Sullivan Walden
Okay. Okay.

Hmm?

⁓

Mmm.

Christian Mauerer
He was just like more bubbly, more bright, you know?

Kelly Sullivan Walden
Hmm. Interesting. So in the dream, were you back then or were you your current age?

Christian Mauerer
Yeah.

It was back then.

Kelly Sullivan Walden
Back then. All right. So we're going to I'm going to teach that I'm going to show you the jet set formula while working on your dream. So it's an acronym.

⁓ The reason I call it jet set is back in the day people used to say people that were frequent flyers were part of the jet set they were flying they were going places doing things and I believe our dreams are always trying to help us to fly always trying to help us to lighten our load and Connect more with our light so that we can fly so the J Represents just the facts ma'am, which you just did perfectly so you get an a-plus so far in the jet

set. The E is for the emotion or the energy of this dream. So can you describe what it felt like to be back in this scene?

Christian Mauerer
Hmm.

felt nostalgic. It felt like this person was someone I really would like to get to know also privately because he was so engaging. I was like, I wonder how this person is as a person right now, just as a teacher. ⁓ And.

Kelly Sullivan Walden
Mm-hmm.

Mmm.

Mmm.

Christian Mauerer
What else came up to me, again, it's like this father figure, you know, I feel in a way that...

Kelly Sullivan Walden
Yes.

Christian Mauerer
I wish I had such an engaging relationship with my dad. You know, that tone of that. Even though it didn't really like this little private exchange I had with him, right? But at least I had exchange on like an intellectual level. You understand?

Kelly Sullivan Walden
Mmm. Mmm. Mm-hmm.

Yes, yeah.

Mm-hmm. Yeah. So you had an intellectual connection with this person who was somebody that you sort of looked up to, admired, but was also kind of fostering you. And you said also that he was kind of polarizing. So he wasn't just like lovey-dovey. He was kind of like controversial or challenging.

Christian Mauerer
Exactly. Yeah, think especially,

well, yes, challenging and also just different. You know, I think in Germany society, feel is also more like, not monogamous, but like more homogenous. You know, like people are more the same than they are here. I feel in the States, it's much more common to meet people. They're just, oh, just be me. Versus in Europe, there's more of like a...

Kelly Sullivan Walden
Mmm. Rigid? Mmm.

Christian Mauerer
You have to blend in. You understand? You have to adhere to the societal standards. Yeah, there's a little bit more of that in Europe. There's just more you know, karmic ties and blah blah blah. It's like that kind of energy.

Kelly Sullivan Walden
Right, right, right, right. Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah, I get it. That's yeah. That makes so much sense. Okay, so.

Christian Mauerer
Oh, that's why I appreciate the guy, because he was just himself and different and just like, you know, he was really displaying this level of just expression and individuality that I was yearning for at that age, I would say.

Kelly Sullivan Walden
Yeah, wow, this is this is very, very cool. Okay, so ⁓ that was great for the E for energy or emotion. The T is for the title. If this dream were a movie, what would it be called? First thing that comes to you.

Christian Mauerer
First thing that comes to me, my God, this is good. ⁓ The platonic relationship with my teacher as a father, what came to me?

Kelly Sullivan Walden
Yeah.

Perfect.

my God. That's great platonic relationship with my teacher as as my father That's great so that so sometimes when we get to the title by the time we get there There's it's kind of like like a bullion cube. It just kind of Crystallizes in many ways the essence of the heart of what's going on in this dream. So Bravo very good

Christian Mauerer
and I followed, yeah.

Kelly Sullivan Walden
And then the S is for the standout symbols and what they mean to you. And you've sort of done some of this already where you talked about this teacher. So he would be the standout aspect of this dream for sure. ⁓ So we've already talked about the teacher, but let's even talk about the classroom. if I was an alien and didn't know what a classroom was, what's that?

Christian Mauerer
The was small-sized, think it was like 12, 15 people. It's quiet. It wasn't a big university hall where you have like 100, people sitting in half circle and just looking down at the guy. It was an even floor where there's like three rows of five tables or 15.

Kelly Sullivan Walden
Okay.

Yeah.

Mmm.

Okay.

Okay.

Christian Mauerer
It kind of equalizes the feeling, also much more intimate, you know what mean?

Kelly Sullivan Walden
Yeah.

Christian Mauerer
And I guess what that allowed me to do is like from my perspective, I was able to really just like focus on the guy, you know, like it didn't, it wasn't really interested in what was going on around me or behind me or, you know, I was like locked in on the teacher.

Kelly Sullivan Walden
Right. ⁓ I love it. That's a great detail. Excellent. Okay, so now we get to the E, the second E in Jet Set, which is the embodiment. And what, so what, what that means basically is you take, for example, the teacher and you imagine for a moment that you are that teacher and

I'm going to ask you, so mostly people do this in a journal, but I'm going to ask you to do it out loud if you would. You journal as, so you speak to me for a second as this teacher about Christian. So would you be willing to do that for a moment? Okay. So what is, what is your name? First of all, teacher, professor, or do you remember the name? You don't have to say.

Christian Mauerer
Yeah. Yeah.

His...

I only remember his last name. Like his last name was... was Müllig. Yeah.

Kelly Sullivan Walden
Okay. Mulek.

Okay. Professor Mulek. So what is it like to be you, ⁓ somebody who's so kind of self-expressed in this culture that is more rigid or more traditional? So how is it that you're able...

To do that, what is it about you that gives you the access to that?

Christian Mauerer
So think the reason I have access to that is...

I have a certain set of credibility that establishes me in the society. So that's number one. Right? And then because I have the credibility, I can be expressed in that setting of the classroom. Does make sense?

Kelly Sullivan Walden
Hmm

Okay.

Yes, like you've earned the right to be yourself because you're not you've already proven that you can like what do they say learn the rules so that you can break them intelligently or something so

Christian Mauerer
Yeah, in the classroom is I would say it's a fairly, it's not, it's a fairly private room, right? As a teacher, you can say what you want, right?

Kelly Sullivan Walden
Yeah

Christian Mauerer
because you have the authority, right? Nobody's gonna say that, like not everybody's gonna say every five minutes, that's bullshit, or they call you out with it, right? People don't listen. And also like the students my age, like they want to learn. Like they're not here to criticize the talk back, they're here to absorb what I have to say.

Kelly Sullivan Walden
That's

Yes, right.

They're here to absorb, right. So what's that like for you to be in an environment where people are respecting you, leaning in, listening to you, paying attention to you, where you can be relatively at liberty to be fully accessed, fully yourself. What's that like?

Christian Mauerer
So for me as a teacher, not only can I say what I want, but I also know that the words I'm going to say are going to have an impact.

Kelly Sullivan Walden
Mmm. Mmm.

Christian Mauerer
Because in this classroom, it was a private school, so was not like, these are not anybody's kids. know, like these are kids that he knows will be at places of positions of power or, you know, leadership in a way. So the people I would talk to on a regular basis would be, you know, just, yeah, leadership positions, right? So I was aware of that when I was saying it to them, to the younger kids.

Kelly Sullivan Walden
So it's kind of like having impact on future leaders, like not just ordinary impact, but knowing that you're actually contributing to society, maybe the world.

Christian Mauerer
Correct. ⁓

And I wanted to show them that individuality really makes life, I don't know, spicy, important, fun. know, like everybody can read a textbook. Like I'm not here to teach you what's in a textbook.

Kelly Sullivan Walden
Wow. So what do you think of Christian? What's your perspective of this student, Professor Mueller? I don't know if I'm saying it right, but ⁓ just professor. ⁓ What are you, what's your perspective on Christian?

Christian Mauerer
really sure. ⁓

Hmm.

I mean, I guess part of that is the protection of myself, right? Because I know my upbringing and things like that. But I think what I would say if I would be the teacher, the professor, ⁓

I was like, this guy is different?

Kelly Sullivan Walden
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

Christian Mauerer
Because

he doesn't seem to be privileged and he seems actually interested in what I have to say, teach, communicate. And a lot of the things that I say, teach and communicate are sometimes in between the lines, just like that individuality and that like, is it like, why am I as a professor the way I am? I'm not just teaching you facts and textbook stuff.

Kelly Sullivan Walden
⁓

Yes

Christian Mauerer
Like we're, it's a conversation that we're having.

Kelly Sullivan Walden
Wow. So if there was one thing that you would like Christian to really learn from you, like if you could sum it up in a nutshell of what you're really wanting to convey to him, what would that be?

Christian Mauerer
Live your life, honor your individuality, follow that and express that. Like which is what I'm living by example, you know?

Kelly Sullivan Walden
That's great. That's excellent. Is there anything else you now that you we're we've got you. Is there anything else you want Christian to know? Or is there anything else that you want to say? Because Christian is listening.

Christian Mauerer
He, he would say...

Just walk your path. Like I'm not worried about you. Like I think you're well on your way to live your Dharma and what you came here to live.

Kelly Sullivan Walden
Excellent, excellent. Thank you, professor. That was great. Okay, so take a big breath, Christian, and just absorb that as much as possible. And just consider how...

So the dream-affesting link is to look at your soul goal, is the reaching a million people with your tea, but also floating in that connected space with people. How is this dream helping you to further that, helping you to take a step in the direction of fulfillment?

Christian Mauerer
So this stream for me really is...

Uh, confirmation of living my unique path. You know, because all of the things I've started again, like they come from the inside out. It's love pixel with T. Um, like nobody can start a business if you don't have a personality. Like you can, but you just like.

Kelly Sullivan Walden
Yeah. Mm hmm. Yeah.

Mm-hmm.

Christian Mauerer
won't. It will feel empty after a while. So at the end of the day, we come here as humans to express ourselves. And the more individually, the more uniquely we can express ourselves, like the more we are fully realized in who we are.

Kelly Sullivan Walden
it won't cut across. Yeah. Yeah.

That's excellent. Okay, so just to, I'm going to add my two cents here if I may, as I'm part of this little dream circle. ⁓ If it were my dream, I would take this feeling, this energy from the professor who is this older, wiser, paternal aspect of me that is no bullshit.

but also really sees the path of my success all about leaning on the edge of my creativity, my uniqueness. So when I'm at a crossroads where it's like, well, this is the standard way to do things versus what my intuition is telling me, I'm gonna lean more heavily on the side of taking risks, being standing out, waving my freak flag with more pride and...

So maybe this isn't so much of a dream that's telling me to change directions, but it's affirming what I'm already doing and maybe giving me even more mojo to go even further. And so at my next meeting about creative marketing, I'm gonna say, how might I incorporate more of this energy into my messaging, into...

Christian Mauerer
Hmm.

Kelly Sullivan Walden
into the colors, into the whatever it is that I'm doing. And maybe this is what's going to help me actually achieve reaching those million people with more grace, with more ease. It just greases the wheels. that's one place I would go. And then lastly, and then just to look at the metaphor of even being in a classroom. From my perspective, anytime a classroom shows up, it's often a message that

I'm in the midst of one of my important life lessons and I'm a student, so to be humble, be eager, be a good student, but also know that I'm also the professor. I also have the answers. And so I'm both the one that creates the curriculum.

And I'm the one that has to have amnesia and forget it and be young and always have beginner's mind. So I'm both of those. so I'm going to copy and paste that energy and put it on my waking life reality and approach. Because often as an entrepreneur, every day is like the wilderness. Like, what do I do today? There's not already a script. There's not already a path. There's not already like a how-to manual.

But with a dream like this, it's kind of like, yes, I am out there in the jungle, not knowing what to do, but I also know I'm also the professor. I've also been here, done that. I know how to do it with a lot of color and spice and grace and lean more out to my edges. So I would do that.

Last question for the final T in Jet Set is what's your tangible? What's one specific way that you will apply the wisdom of this dream in your waking reality?

Christian Mauerer
think the tangible for this dream.

comes down to when teaching as the owner of One with Tea to be embodying that individuality and teaching that wisdom that tea has. Because the other day, I am the channel for the tea right? So the words that I communicate, the content I create, how it's being said.

⁓ is what's going to impact and reach a lot of people eventually.

Kelly Sullivan Walden
Yes.

So one of the things I refer to this a lot from Abraham Hicks, she talks about how as humans we're both freedom seeking and harmony seeking. And often those parts of us are at odds. The harmony seeking part of ourselves is always wanting to have everybody agree with us and having everybody love us and like us. And so that would be the part of us that is

that knows how to fit in, knows how to not make waves and knows how to kind of toe the line based on what everybody else is doing. And that's good to have that awareness. It's kind of like that saying, know your audience.

Like we need to know who we're talking to. But then there's also that part that is freedom seeking, is wild, is one of a kind. And we often want to be fully expressed. But sometimes if we lean into that too heavily, we can be ostracized and people won't pay attention to us if we don't have some ability to blend. Like tea is a blend. know, lot of good teas blend.

some things that are are you know harsh or the different aspects of the sweet and the sour or the spicy so that it's really palatable. So I would say ⁓ there's something about like leaning further on the edge of uniqueness which is the freedom seeking and not getting rid of the harmony seeking but somehow kind of

just blending them as best I can while leaning on the edge. So I think that's great. That's a perfect way to apply what you just got from the dream. What were you gonna say?

Christian Mauerer
And that's also the energy of tea, you know? The energy of tea is... Yeah, there is a uniqueness about tea, but there's also a harmony about tea. Right? So I feel that it's something that also needs to be reflected in the content, right? If I just stand with crazy person who's like dancing, tea is like... Doesn't work. Like tea's not... That's not vibe. You know what mean? Unique.

Kelly Sullivan Walden
Yeah.

Mmm.

But I just

want to be myself. I don't care about anybody else. People are like, well, good for you. You could do all of that all by yourself.

Christian Mauerer
How about it, you know? But he needs to be like, let's sit down. Let's have a cup of tea. Let's chat. Let's chat about this meaning of life, guys.

Kelly Sullivan Walden
Yes!

Right. Who blend it together while leaning on, hmm, how can I be unique? How can I add that one little crazy ingredient? My friend, Joey, who I talked about earlier, who's an artist, she says in every piece of art she does, there has to be some whimsical piece. Like so every piece, might look like a beautiful sunset, but there's going to be some little

Christian Mauerer
That's tea.

Kelly Sullivan Walden
some little wave that's going the opposite direction or some little squirrel on the beach. It's like squirrels aren't on the beach. You're like, what? How did you know some something that is a little bit like, huh?

Christian Mauerer
I agree. It's like the same with the cognitive dissonance, know, like dream-infesting, love pixel, like all these things are just like, well, how is that going to work? You know?

Kelly Sullivan Walden
some whimsy.

Yes, exactly, exactly. But they do. I mean, of course they do. You know, we're here to be fully human. We're here to be on this planet at this time. And if we were only human, only here in this world, would be, it would be so dull to not have access to that higher realm. And yet if we're only in the higher realm.

then it's like, what do they say? You can be so heavenly minded, so of the light that you can't pay your own light bill. So we have to, how does this light, how does this wisdom, how does this, how does it make, how does it actually make us some money? How does it actually help us attract?

opportunities that would have us live better lives. So that's why I think that's why I'm passionate about dreams because it's like this this trust fund that we all have and most of us don't access it. It's like you know we could say that only five percent ⁓ according to the American Hypnosis Association 12 percent of our mind's power is logic.

reasoning, that rational conscious thinking, whereas 88 % of our mind's power is in our dreams, is our dreaming mind, our subconscious, our creativity. And most of us that are rational people just say, well, that's for kids, or that's for people that are smoking too much pot, or that's for the weekends. It's not for the day to day, but it is.

But it absolutely is. mean, look at just you ⁓ as the poster child today who had this dream about his professor. And I can feel it just in being in your presence, the energy, the mojo, the permission that it's going to give you to go and be even better, more effective in your actual business that might end up becoming like you might end up using that dream as a guide might bring you to

that incredible ingredient that's gonna actually be the tipping point.

Christian Mauerer
Wow, beautiful. Thank you so much for, you know, walking me through that.

Kelly Sullivan Walden
Thank you so much for being vulnerable and open and allowing us to poke around in your dreams and in your soul goal and in being a demonstration of the essence of what dream-affesting is. And there's a lot more to it, but it's broken down into the 12 weeks so that people can do the program on their own or, you know, do it with a group. I mean, it's kind of best.

when served to a group, just like tea. You can love it on your own, but how wonderful to have a little tea party. And how wonderful to have dream-affesting with tea. Hey. Could be a thing. Yeah.

Christian Mauerer
Yeah.

I know. It can't be a thing. I love it. Yeah, thank

you so much for sharing your gifts. Yeah, like, you know, live demonstration.

Kelly Sullivan Walden
You are so welcome.

Thank you, Christian. This has been such a magical conversation. can't believe it's been over an hour.

Christian Mauerer
It's crazy, you know, like when time flies, you know?

Kelly Sullivan Walden
I know, yeah, I know. We're in that, there's no time space and that's my favorite place. You know, we're just soul to soul, dream to dream and yeah, that's magic. And I think that's how, that's the human 2.0.

Christian Mauerer
Yeah.

Yeah.

Kelly Sullivan Walden
of what, like that's what we're meant to do. We're still able to function in this world. We're not so high that we have to separate ourselves from the world. You're gonna go back to work. I'm gonna go back into my work, but we come back into it with that buzz, with that like, that remembering that we're in a unified field, that we're floating through this unity.

We don't have to wait for one day. We don't have to wait until a million people have had this tea in order to feel it now. So we are already successful. We're already fulfilled. And just like they say, the rich get richer. Like we're already rich. So now we attract more going forward. We're not going into our day hungry, starving. Please like me. Please buy my tea. Please buy my dream work. Please buy. You know, it's like we're already full and brimming over.

It's a much more attractive place to step into. I think people feel it too.

Christian Mauerer
Yeah, beautiful. I love that. That's so poignant, you know? It's like the rich get richer and if you can get to that place first and create from this, it's a much different ⁓ attraction going forward.

Kelly Sullivan Walden
Yeah.

Christian Mauerer
Well, thank you so much for sharing all that and for bringing your heart, bringing your wisdom. And yeah, I would love for you to let people know, you know, what would you leave them with as kind of a last piece of advice and where they can find you and get more of you because you have so many things going on books, Oracle decks, online programs. Yeah.

Kelly Sullivan Walden
very earthy level dreamaffesting.com is a great place for people to find out about all things dreamaffesting and that's spelled dream D-R-E-A-M-I-F-E-S-T-I-N-G dot com I have

If people are listening anytime near real time, am in the new year in January, I have a new Dream of Festing Live program coming up. So I'll be leading people through the book one week at a time. And I'm excited about that because it'll be the first time I'm getting to do it with the actual book. I've been doing it with, you know, different iterations of the book, but now it's kind of like, this will be the very first Dream of Festing Live with the book. So that starts in January.

And then I also have for people that want to become Dreamifesting coaches, certified Dreamifesting coaches, so they can facilitate their own Dreamifesting groups and get paid for it. I'm going to be facilitating a Dreamifesting coach training program. So that's coming up in January as well. And I also, for authors, people that are wanting to write their books that have a dream to be an author, because that's...

such an important part. Dream of Festing often brings people to their their work, the thing that they want to be known for, which ends up becoming a book. So I also have this thing called the Author's Showcase where I help people make their dream of being an author come to life. So that's also coming up in January. ⁓ And there's some free gifts that you can get on dreamofesting.com. And what else? I think that's it. But if I was going to leave people with a message.

I would say to have the sense that first of all you're in a friendly universe which means what you're wanting is wanting you. You're not separate from it. You're not just this little person that's trying to climb up the hill saying please give to me what I want. It's kind of like you're the one.

that has been running around, ⁓ God, this is a funny example, but there's a teacher of mine, a professor, who wrote a book called The Five Men Who Broke My Heart. Sue Shapiro is her name. And in writing this book about these men that broke her heart.

In the end, she realized it was her that broke their hearts. She interviewed all of her past loves and she was the one that was hard to get. She was the one that didn't return their calls. She was the one, even though she had this story that everybody leaves me, nobody loves me, only to find out she was the one that left everybody. So it's like that with the things that we want. We're the ones that are

hard to playing hard to get. So it's important for us to stop playing hard to get to like turn around and say, come to mama, come to daddy, come to me. I'm ready for you. I'm building a home inside my heart for you. What you're wanting is wanting you. So wake up, wake up and dream of Fester very best.

Christian Mauerer
Thank you so much for sharing that.

Kelly Sullivan Walden
So welcome. Thank you so much, Christian. What a pleasure to be with you. I so appreciate you. Thank you, Love Pixel.

Christian Mauerer
Thank you, it's an honor to be seen.

All right, well, thanks so much for being on the show, Kelly, and yeah, bye for now.

Kelly Sullivan Walden
Bye for now. Send me some