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The Steppers Season 1 Episode 59

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Trust—once broken, it transforms relationships forever. This raw, unfiltered episode dives deep into the epidemic of "pillow talking" and why it violates the fundamental code that genuine connections are built upon.

When did sharing someone's private business become acceptable? From intimate details to personal struggles, the host breaks down why divulging confidential conversations betrays trust in ways that can never be fully repaired. "If I find out you pillow talking, I can't consider you a friend no more," he states plainly, articulating a boundary that resonates with anyone who values loyalty.

The conversation evolves into a powerful metaphor about wolves versus sheep—distinguishing between those who inspire growth and those who simply follow without purpose. True connections should challenge you to become better, support your ambitions, and maintain unwavering loyalty. "I want to be surrounded by individuals where we can talk about business, goals, advantages, and help each other grow," the host explains, highlighting that relationships should elevate rather than diminish us.

Modern communication further complicates these dynamics. Text messages get misinterpreted, and generational differences in language create barriers. The solution? Sometimes you need to pick up the phone or have conversations face-to-face—a refreshingly direct approach to preventing misunderstandings before they damage relationships.

Whether you're reevaluating your inner circle or setting stronger boundaries, this episode offers a no-nonsense guide to navigating loyalty in a world where discretion has become increasingly rare. Listen now to discover why protecting someone's confidence isn't just about respect—it's about integrity.

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Speaker 1:

Hey, what's happening? What's happening, steppers? I just want to tell y'all welcome to Four Steppers Only. Hey, I'm your host, motherfucking Jack. Yeah, hey, when I tell you to sit down and watch a motherfucking Stepper Step here on that motherfucking podcast that you always want to infect your earlobes with. But anyway, hey, hey, we back to the basics. I'm sorry that y'all ain't heard from me in a little bit. It. It takes a little practice to get back into the groove. You know, um, last month I did six episodes and I felt like I was giving y'all a little bit too much. But now shit, hey, back to our regularly scheduled program, because some shit really bothers me about the way people move nowadays, because they move a little weird, they move a little wonky, hey, they move a little suspect as fuck to where they be talking about.

Speaker 1:

Oh, I'm a good person. Nah, nigga, you're a pillow talker, and I can't agree with pillow talkers Because that's the I mean of the basics of shit. I was raised Because these pillow talking ass men, these pillow talking ass women, got this shit misconstrued in their minds, because they think that shit is cool, they think that shit is acceptable, and to me, that shit is far from acceptable, because when I was raised, I was raised by a code you dig. The code was like If me and you are having a conversation, you trust me to have that conversation with me, because a lot of individuals will let you tell them whatever they want, what you want to tell them. Then they run back to the next motherfucker and tell them whatever the fuck that, what the fuck you said, or a into, involve you in a bullshit, involve you in a situation and that shit, weird as fuck. I ain't gonna hold you because if I put, if I put you on GP or I put you on game about certain situations or certain individuals, that shit is supposed to be like a little cheat sheet for your notebook and your mental and your mental for like, okay, shit, he had this experience with this person. Maybe I need to watch the way this motherfucker move around me, because for you to run back and tell him what I said, nigga. Now I can't trust you, because now what you running and telling everything, or everything that you see, or everything that happened around me, it ain't for that motherfucker period to got down.

Speaker 1:

No, you get what I'm saying and I guess what. That's what the loyalties lie, because a lot of these motherfuckers will got down tell personal shit for personal gain, personal, like just to get a piece of pussy, a piece of dick, and and that shit weird as fuck to me. I ain't even gonna hold you because the way I operate, the way I move the shit that you tell me, if they ain't around to know, they ain't around to listen, they ain't around to be involved in a conversation or defend themselves, bro, that ain't it, ain't your place to got. No one go back and tell the next motherfucker what was said or what I said about a certain situation, and people and people do that shit and that shit is weird as fuck. Weird as fuck because, like, let me tell you something, me and a couple of my partners have us, like I grew up, grew up with like, um, like we've been friends. We've been friends since, yay, high inch, high to an inch, sandbox level, school level, and we understand the code.

Speaker 1:

You get what I'm saying. What don't need to be said, don't need to be explained. I know a lot of y'all understand that terminology, but a lot of y'all don't, because y'all slow and y'all mental. But a lot of y'all step was understand that bullshit. But because, like I was telling somebody the other day. What is the personal purpose of you telling somebody something I said or, matter of fact, ain't even about something I said. If you were, if I would have called you and told you what the fuck was going on with me. Why are you telling this female or this male Then they got nothing to do with the situation. What is? What is what has happened? That shit is fucking weird. Now I got to look at you a certain way, I got to address you a certain way, or now I just don't trust you the same way I used to trust you, because the way I look at it is is is optimal.

Speaker 1:

It's like if this motherfucker used to we'll, we'll take it to the extreme. This motherfucker used to sell dope, but you know he done changed his life around. He done went to jail this, that and that in a third. All I can speak on is the shit that you tell me. You feed me information. I'm gonna come back with a rebuttal. That's, you know, parliament, to the conversation that we're having. Not knowing like shit. Yeah, that motherfucker, you sell cocaine, heroin and it's on the third, whoa. That's not for them to know, that's for that person to tell them, if they are involved with them. It is not your responsibility to leak you know top level for top five clearance secrets about this individual and a lot of people don't understand that that's bullshit, because even we'll take it to another extreme.

Speaker 1:

I'm sorry to gotten on, you know, just keep jumping from topic to topic. But this, this has to be said because too many motherfuckers out here think that shit is cool to me and the way I was raised, that's that. Them fighting terms, that shit messy, that's that man. I can't fuck with that person because I can't trust this person. Because they're gonna tell anything and everything that they see or I I'm exposed to, or any situation I got going on to the next motherfucker that I don't know or don't trust. Because now this person that you don't, that he don't leak information over to, can take that shit and run with it. Because let's go ahead and let's go ahead and keep this shit funky. Why are you telling shit to this person? So they can dislike me, so they can hate on me, so they can be on your side of this.

Speaker 1:

That and the third, because my, I'm sorry, I base my theories and the way I treat people off the way they treat me. Whatever the fuck y'all had going on over there ain't got shit to do with me. Because what you got to understand with most people they only going to privy you to or include you in certain things. When it's beneficial, that's like okay, they're going, they're going to tell you all the bad shit about a person, but they ain't going to never tell you the way they looked out. Well, you needed a place to sleep. Well, you needed a place to got now, or you needed a couple dollars because your lights about to get turned off or your cell phone about to get turned off.

Speaker 1:

They ain't gonna tell you that shit. Or the way a nigga bought you a goddamn computer, or where your cell phone got cut off, he put you in position to help you out. Or look out for. Look out for you because based off the way they fought with you because a lot of people don't aren't privy or that they can't wrap their mental around this shit, so fuck with people. How they fought with you it's. It's like seasoning you can't put every type of seasoning on every type of food, because that shit gonna fuck up your taste buds.

Speaker 1:

Did y'all track that? Because that's the same way we used to tell people hey, bro, shit, if I fuck with a certain person or I'm I'm dealing with a certain person, I'm not fin to include them into shit. I know that you got going on and I know you don't fuck with them, just based off our conversations. We don't have or the energy or you ain't got to tell me why you don't fuck with them. You just don't fuck with them because, like I tell people all the time, shit. They ask me Jack, why do you choose not to fuck with me? I said, man, based off their energy and just the way they move. If they move like chess pieces or checkers and they just looking for positions of attention, man, I can't fuck with them.

Speaker 1:

I'm sorry y'all, I'm pausing there. I'm freestyling this shit and it's just coming straight from my mental. I don't have a little notepad I don't go off of. This is just the bullshit that I deal with and I see that's some fucked up bullshit and people don't see that it's fucked up. That's like okay, I'll give you another example. That's like if a female has an ex and she's telling you all the bad shit about this individual, shawty, why were you fucking with him if the only thing you can tell me the bad shit. It had to be some good shit about this motherfucker for you to fuck with him. You get what I'm saying. And vice versa.

Speaker 1:

Man, shit bro, why are you, pillow, talking about you? You done fucked. Y'all. That's sacred. That ain't nobody else's business except for y'all. If y'all fucked, y'all fucked. You get what I'm saying.

Speaker 1:

You ain't got to tell the world how nasty she is, how goddamn she gargle your nut, how she lick your ass or play in your asshole None of that shit. How she goddamn squirt shit, creamer this, that and the third, that ain't none of that shit. How she got down, squirt she a cream of this, that and the third, that ain't none of your business. And I'm tired of niggas getting that confused with you just bragging about some shit, bro. Why we gotta brag about pussy? Are we 12? Are we 13? If you did, you did. If you didn't, you didn't. If the motherfucker just fought with you on a friend type level, in a friend type basis, then that's what it is.

Speaker 1:

Don't go lying and saying some shit that ain't even happened, because you might get checked about the shit and a lot of people don't understand that shit and then you get treated like the cold side of the pillow that nobody want to touch, nobody want to fuck with at all, because it's like, yeah, I fuck with you every once in a while, but I'm gonna fuck with you on a regular basis. Or shit, don't invite that nigga over my house, I don't fuck with him, or you get treated that way, but then you got down anyway. But I just can't agree with certain individuals. Pillow talking, that shit is not cool.

Speaker 1:

I don't understand what in society pushed everything to that aspect to where we need to tell people everything that goes on. Because that shit weird. Because, hey, if I got a partner to do coke, that man and it ain't for the outside world to know that's his habit, that's his responsibility. If I got a partner that got them just out here fucking airtime, dick and harry, or that's his, that's his, that's his part, that's his preface. Or you got a motherfucking homeboy that keep getting fucked over and fucked over and fucked over and he's, he's confiding, what the shit and the stressors that he's going through, that ain't your place to tell nobody else.

Speaker 1:

Because what you pillow talking to a bit I'm sorry, not, not, not to be disrespectful you pillow talking to a female or male, they're gonna give you the pussy or the dick either way, because they that's what they choose to do. You just fuck with them on your personal level of fucking with them. You don't have to include everybody in your situation unless you trust them, unless they got them down there, you you know you can got them. Take some shit to the grave with them and they don't prove themselves with you because everybody doesn't have that proof, everybody doesn't have that same loyalty within their souls with them. Fucking with each other like that and that shit weird. Honestly, that shit weird.

Speaker 1:

I'm. I'm just saying because nine times out of ten, a female goddamn gonna fuck with you the way she want to fuck with you. You ain't gotta goddamn go like shh. Let me, let me goddamn salt this nigga up so she don't goddamn find him attractive. She might still fuck with him and not choose to fuck with you. Just because I can't trust this motherfucker, that's not telling my business to anybody and everybody that's goddamn gonna listen, or everybody that he's not around. So it's. It's based on how you move and your and your responsibilities in life, not nobody else's. You get what I'm saying Because a lot of people fail to realize that bullshit and they don't know how to move from that shit you get me.

Speaker 1:

It's just a lot and I'm going to go ahead and tell y'all like this let's keep it funky. I can't consider you a friend no more. If I find out you pillow talking. I can't fuck with you on the same capacity. If you pillow talking, how do I consider you a friend? You didn't want to protect my neck from these toxic ass outside walls, because that's what friends do.

Speaker 1:

Friends look out for individuals they truly fought with. They hold genuine. That is closer, that's close to blood. If you don't really fought with them nigga, that's an acquaintance. Nigga, that's an op, nigga, that's an enemy how, how can you sit there and trust them? You can't, I mean, and that's some real shit. You really can't trust them no more, because they're gonna move the way they want to move and spread shit the way they want to spread. And you can. There's nothing you can do about it. Yeah, man, because man, I mean people move out here. Wonky and weird man, that's, that's all it has to say about it. But that's like just because a motherfucker hanging around you 24 7 got down kicking a bobo with you, blah, blah, blah.

Speaker 1:

That motherfucker got down might be, that might motherfucker, might be a whole leech, because I'm so used to hanging around wolves and sharks that we, we, we got down. We, we, we consider ourselves wolves because we're like-minded, we have the same ambitions. We I'm sorry, let me refrain that we might not have the same ambitions, but we still have the same support in each other that we're supposed to have, and a lot of these motherfuckers will will be a wolf in sheep's clothing. You get what I'm saying. They will. They will dress up supposed to have, and a lot of these motherfuckers will what will be a wolf in sheep's clothing. You get what I'm saying. They will. They will dress up like a wolf and a motherfucker, but they really are sheep. They want to be herded, they want to be guided. Then wolves gonna hunt in the pack with a bunch of wolves and you're gonna know that energy when a motherfucker walk in the room, because most sheep will tuck their legs and got down by and go the fuck on.

Speaker 1:

Wolves gonna be like this shit, bro, what you got, what you got moving, what you got cooking, oh shit, for real shit. I got this idea. You want to try this idea. You want to move this way, bro, I got that shit, I got going on and they and they push you to be better, because nobody wants to hang around a bunch of sheep when you're a wolf or you're a shark and you from it with a bunch of fish, nigga, all them fish, finna, look like food to me.

Speaker 1:

Because I'm not, I'm not here to. I want to be surrounded by niggas or individuals, whether whether it's men or women, and we can talk about business, or we can talk about goals, we can talk about advantages and we can help each other grow. Because if we can't help each other grow, why the fuck are you around me? Because I can't hang with motherfuckers that want to get told drunk every time I see them. They want to get goddamn juked out. Every time I see them, oh, bro, shit, the first thing they have out their mouth is bro, shit, I gotta go get me some new pussy.

Speaker 1:

Is that what your life is based off of? That little Minuscule Aspect of life Is getting your dick wet. How Don't you have sustenance, don't you have value? Like they say, chase your goals and ambitions now and everything else will fall in place. Maybe, maybe you will find that woman that wants to see you grow, wants to be, see you become the best version of you, instead of you just worried about getting your dick wet, and that's and that's ridiculous, because a lot of men out here will pillow talk and pillow talk and pillow talk Just to derail you from your happiness. Females will do the same, because that's why they say a lot of times, birds of a feather flock together.

Speaker 1:

Toxic people hang with toxic people. People that are toxic are involved with toxic people and that and that's fucking retarded and remedial for me because I'm sorry in my life, my 38 years, about to be about to be 39 damn, I'm about to be 40 motherfucker. Um, in my, in my mind, in my aspect, to see my partners or my homeboys win or doing shit good for themselves makes me happy, makes me feel like shit. The conversation that we've had about our dreams and goals and ambitions pays off or is paying off, or it's motivating you to do something different or motivating you to gain traction in another aspect of your life, when you're around certain individuals that don't want to see you win, because everybody in this world does not want to see you win, because, like we've said in other other uh podcasts, some of these men or some of these women out here want to be a crab, a lobster, but really they imitation crab meat. They come out phony, they came off fake, they come off fraudulent and their energy isn't genuine with you.

Speaker 1:

So what do you do? You treat them accordingly. You treat them like they are, like they are. That. This ain't real, this ain't fake. This is phony right here.

Speaker 1:

And sometimes I'm sorry. You don't have to address everything that happens. You just know when and where to fuck with them or what capacity to fuck with them on, and that's fucked up. It's really fucked up because sometimes you want to give people the benefit of the doubt and you can't because they, they, they have already tainted that thought or that process in your mind to where you don't want to fuck with them on that level anymore. It's like you can't double back. It's like, okay, you can forgive, but you don't forget. You come on. Fucked up to me.

Speaker 1:

I'm, I might, I might not fuck with you, no more, I might be just goddamn. Two cars passing traffic, I might see you and you might see me speak and keep it pushing. It ain't no, what's up, dog? I said I'm the worst person that does this shit because I usually make people. Let it be known if I fuck with them, I don't fuck with them Because my facial expressions wear right there in front of you. It's like a billboard. Or I might speak to individuals around you, but never say two words to you again, because I know that you violated my trust. You violated my type of friendship with you Companionship, relationship, situationship, whatever the fuck it is Because when I start looking at you a certain way, I start treating you a certain way, eventually to the point where it's like it's like that food in the lunch line that you look at and be like you said this shit lasagna, but this shit look nasty as fuck.

Speaker 1:

And that's the same way I treat people. It's like, yeah, I know what you say, you are, but you, you coming off something totally different. It's like, but people say, oh, you're supposed to forgive and forget the fuck. There's no way in human nature that we forget that easy. We try to make people look at us in a different light. We attempt to, but it's hard as fuck. Even when you fucked up, you eat that shit, you own that shit and you try to show them something different. And it's like it takes more work. That's like I'm going to keep it funky with you.

Speaker 1:

That's like if somebody says something about me and I tell them like this, I believe whatever the fuck they said. Because I'm not here to argue or change your mental about whatever they say or the way to treat you differently, because now you have what their thought, what they to tell you, or their their version of me to. Well, how can I put it? They wanted to you to hear their version of me, no matter whether it's real or fake, no matter whether it's lies or anything. They just want you to believe that. So I tell them now shit, hey believe whatever that motherfucker said to you. Because I'm not here to debate that, because if you truly fuck with me, you see how I operate, you see how I move and all of that shit might not be true, but you so blindside about what this person's telling you. Hey, you just go off whatever the fuck they say, because, like my mom used to tell me when I was growing up, you only bet, you believe only half. You only believe half of what you see and none of what you hear, unless you have solidified proof in front of you saying this is this individual, this is because that's like okay, I'll give you another perfect example. That's like you see concept like text messages.

Speaker 1:

Text messages can be construed in so many different ways, so many. Because, like, like, I tell people in the heartbeat you can read my shit and if I don't feel like arguing with you, I just short talk you or I'll get my point out and I'll let you talk to yourself. You can only, you can only go into so much depth through a text message because I'll go ahead and keep it funky with you. Shit, I had a guy. I saw somebody text me a certain way and I picked up that phone and called him hey, bro, what type of shit you want? Oh, bro, I didn't mean it like that. Bro. You mean, hey, the next time before you goddamn think about sending that message, read that shit before you press send, because your energy can be misconstrued through a text. And that's what I wish a lot of people would go back to. Because, man, hey, a phone call takes two seconds, a text message can be misconstrued or understood so many different ways that you did not mean A text message might have y'all beefing.

Speaker 1:

And you might not even mean it like that, because I guess I'm the old type of generation you say some bullshit through a text. I might have to call you, I might have to say something to you. I might have to say something to you. That's like I've realized certain lingo and certain phrases that I had growing up. This new generation doesn't mean the same.

Speaker 1:

That's like, man, we having a disagreement and you tell me hey, bro, I just want to pull up on you and see you face to face. To me that's fighting terms. Hey, we about to get dusty, get dusty. Hey. Hey, play some with straight like. I'll tell somebody in a heartbeat, straight to their face play in the street, not with me, because that that that shows you what that's, that tells them where you stand, because they know.

Speaker 1:

But then they try to retract and then they come off fucked up, and now they don't know where the hell to go, because now they didn't got a fuck up taste in their mouth about you, or you got a fuck up taste in your mouth about me, based on a truth or a lie or a misconception of the smallest and minuscule things that you could possibly ever do to somebody. But hey, shit is, it is what it is and ain't what it ain't. But I just want to let y'all hit. I want to thank y'all for letting me vent to y'all a little bit on this wonderful, wonderful wednesday afternoon. Here on four step was only we out? Peace, outro Music, oh yeah.

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