For Steppers Only: Raw, Uncut, and Unedited
Welcome to For Steppers Only—the podcast where real ones from all walks of life pull up to chop it up about everything under the sun.
We dive into relationships, careers, education, sports, the supernatural, sexuality, personal growth, entrepreneurship, family vibes—you name it. This is the space for raw conversations, honest laughs, and deep reflections. It’s all about learning, leveling up, and spotlighting voices you don’t always hear.
Whether you're on the rise, finding your path, or just looking to connect, this podcast is your corner of the world to vibe, grow, and step into something real.
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At Work Wives and Husbands w/ Guest Chef3x
Workplace boundaries aren't just HR policy – they're essential safeguards for your career and personal life. This raw, unfiltered conversation pulls back the curtain on why mixing romance with your professional life creates a perfect storm of complications that few relationships survive.
We're getting brutally honest about those office "work husbands" and "work wives" dynamics that blur professional lines. When your coworker brings you home-cooked meals in Tupperware, is it really just friendly generosity, or the first step toward something that could upend multiple lives? Our personal experiences and observations from both sides of these situations offer cautionary tales worth heeding.
The conversation shifts to exploring our hometown of Athens, Georgia – a community rich with overlooked talent that rarely receives proper recognition until validated elsewhere. From Kenny Rogers and Titus Burgess to countless musicians and creators, we examine why this cultural disconnect exists and the importance of supporting local talent from day one. What does it say about a community when its greatest champions must leave to find success?
We also tackle friendship dynamics, particularly the striking differences between male and female friendships when success enters the equation. Why do women often celebrate your wins while men sometimes harbor jealousy? The uncomfortable truth about financial disparities between friends reveals how money changes relationships in ways we rarely discuss openly. By the episode's end, we've covered everything from workplace ethics to hometown loyalty, with authenticity as our guiding principle throughout this journey through professional and personal boundaries.
Yo with four steppers only. Mr. Recipe.
SPEAKER_00:Hey man, we cooking up, man. The cookup is real, man. Off the menu, man. We stepping on y'all, man. What's happening? What's happening? What's happening? Hey, y'all already know who I am. Hey, man. Hey, guess what, man? Jeff. Time three, man. Cooking up. What's happening?
SPEAKER_01:But hey, man, shit. Hey, this is a long time coming, Chef. Man, hey. I don't think these motherfuckers are ready for this shit at all. Because I'm gonna go ahead and tell you, man, shit. We've been talking about a lot of shit before the cameras even start rolling. So we had to goddamn get it into this shit. But shit, hey, Chef, like we were talking about. Why, hey, everybody we got them at me talking about something like hey Jack, hey Jack, I wanna hear this. I wanna hear that. I wanna hear this. I wanna hear that. But the most common thing that people want to talk about, they want to hear is why should I not fuck my co-workers?
SPEAKER_00:Man, that's a crazy subject, especially when y'all got no uh them at-work husbands and all that, no at-work wives and stuff. Well, what you talking about? But I seen I'm I'm from I'm from the class city, man, and you know, some people call it country, some people call it say we slow or whatever, but I hey what man, for for our area, man, we've been uh light speed for a long time. You feel what I'm saying? And uh in our area, bro, we we country, bro. We'll we're hey, they don't care nothing about that show girl. Hell no.
SPEAKER_01:Shit, hey, I'll let her kiss you before you get out of the car with her.
SPEAKER_00:But guess what?
SPEAKER_01:She's gonna bring me a plate in the work, goddamn it. I'll tell you that.
SPEAKER_00:And they be and the bad part, they they looking at you while they do it, they're like, oh yeah, man. He he kissed her, but they might that my bitch. That my bitch. Like, dang, y'all rough.
SPEAKER_01:So somebody brought some shit to me at work the other night, right? Talking about some Jack. I said, What's up? Um, have you seen such and such? I said, No, I ain't seen them. Yeah, because uh they and the these two individuals ended up getting a place together. She left her husband, left her kid, and just got doing moved, changed jobs and everything. Moved, they get when they got a place, and at the same time, he was still fucking my homegirl.
SPEAKER_00:Boy, I said that is diabolical. One thing about it, and I hate to say this, us as men, we are terrible, right? But we don't get past first base unless the woman lets us get there. So I don't, I'm not sitting there trying to blame it on the women, but y'all got a big toe hole of the bulk ownership of this situation. Because the cool thing about it is, if you don't, my mama used to tell me this, my grandma used to tell me when I was young, if she don't open her legs, you can't nothing happen.
SPEAKER_01:You were you damn right.
SPEAKER_00:So what if whatever I said or whatever, how have I looked or whatever I had made you open your legs into yourself, then I'm gonna be mad. It's a free pick.
SPEAKER_01:The way I look at it is a free pick.
SPEAKER_00:Free game.
SPEAKER_01:Because I mean, I ain't gonna hold you shit. That shit happened to me.
SPEAKER_00:Okay. It can happen to everybody. I got it. I can't say that. I uh in my my younger days, I haven't did the same depending on the situation.
SPEAKER_01:Because I mean, like we tell, like we like me and you were talking, like, like I'm like if I'm beefing with you, I'm not gonna goddamn hit your pockets. I'm not gonna call the police on what you're doing, telling you what you're doing.
SPEAKER_00:Uh-huh.
SPEAKER_01:Bro, I'm gonna go for your heart.
SPEAKER_00:I'm gonna go for your heart. And and and I'm from an area, I'm from, I'm from ATH. And like I was telling my partner low last night, I'm from where all these haters, all these hoes, and all these hustlers at, right? So, so uh, I'm gonna be real with you. We don't care nothing about you, Monica. We getting money. Yeah. Like we getting money, and if we ain't getting money, we straight. Yeah. You feel what I'm saying? So at the end of the day, we wanna uh feel you hurt personally. Hey, uh, you know, we want we want to make sure that when we sit, we reason about the laugh, like man, man, you don't even know where it got that. Well, you ain't know what it is. But you don't know what y'all have did. I got a video that y'all got down getting the paint and a paste painting. Hey boy, go check this out, boy. She got that. Hey, but ain't that such and such an old lady? Oh yeah. And all they want to know, they don't even want you to know directly. They just want someone or someone to know and do like everybody looking at you when you come into the plant looking at you like yourself. Looking like crazy. But get what? The bad part about acting, everybody probably not even looking crazy. Because so fat. Shoot. They know you got uh at-work wife. Yup.
SPEAKER_01:Yup. Because I mean, let's let's like we um I've talked about this on another episode. Don't you bring that Tupperware home that she done brought you to work? When she brought you that meal. Yup. You don't you don't bring that Tupperware home.
SPEAKER_00:That's crazy.
SPEAKER_01:Because I mean, shoot, it's like because a lot of these motherfuckers that got at-work wives and at work at work husbands, I'm just glad got a significant other at home.
SPEAKER_00:Look, I'm just glad I'm a chef. I ain't never need nobody to cook for me at all. I ain't never had that situation. But I I'll take some shit for later.
SPEAKER_01:I know what you talking about, something that I can throw away.
SPEAKER_00:I'll take some chicken nuggets.
SPEAKER_01:I know that right. Hey, you want hey, look, look, you fuck around, leave that goddamn tupperware with me if you want to. That bitch gonna end up within the trash. That shit ain't going nowhere close to my residence, my car, or nowhere else.
SPEAKER_00:And I know they're crazy, but I got to say this.
SPEAKER_01:Go ahead.
SPEAKER_00:And this episode of For Steppers and the Recipe Pile off the menu is brought to you by Snapper. I just be trying to get him money, man.
SPEAKER_01:Hey, hey, hey man, let me tell you something, man. Shit, but but that's all it's about though.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, we playing the Monopoly game. We might we're gonna get something.
SPEAKER_01:I mean, this chest never checkers. I mean, shit, that's like that's like right now, we're trying to get a god-done sponsorship right now for screwball.
SPEAKER_00:Let's, let's, and that's that's the point. You know what I'm saying? Let's how we gonna make, and I really love and embrace a lot of different podcasters. So you can see how we can make, because I see what they're doing, I see what Dame Dash, I see what Cameron doing, I see what May's doing, I see what Up Dell Podcast's doing. I'm watching y'all, and I respect the game that you giving a young podcaster like us. So we start learning how to cross you live you live this money and try to get these sponsorships and turn up our podcast, invest to ourselves to make sure that we get the way y'all we want, we want to get no fit. I hear y'all talking no 15Ks a month. Hey, Tarren Gangster William over that talking about he make more money than I make working in a month. Bro, no. And I and I ain't hating because I done known about Terren Gates Williams since I was a kid when no one knew about Terren Gates Williams. But see this. But we got stories that we could tell about Athens uh and around our surrounding counters for a hundred thousand people that's there, we should be getting 20,000 views. Of course.
SPEAKER_01:But it's but it's about a popularity contest with a lot of these motherfuckers. Correct. Or or like like the because the the one thing that pisses me off the most, y'all niggas to go fuck with a TF. Y'all niggas to go fuck with celebrities. Y'all go for niggas to go fuck with this, y'all niggas go fuck with that, and not fuck with your exactly.
SPEAKER_00:You only show your friend music. Oh god. And I said I show T1 music, I said, I shell uh nerd music, and y'all will support everybody. Y'all will tell uh uh young Connor happy birthday for you. Tell your best friend you grew up with for school, who give you$20 anytime you need. Happy birthday.
SPEAKER_01:Big facts, big facts. Because like like I tell people all the time, like anybody I fuck with on a personable level, I share your shit. I'll put your shit on the pod. I'll goddamn get you get you sitting over here with me. Yeah, I said, but anybody that sit over here with me, I fuck with on a personable level. It ain't just oh, they just showing up to the pod because they need a platform to speak on. Yeah, they might need that platform, but I fuck with them when the cameras are rolling or when the cameras are off.
SPEAKER_00:We were we were talking podcast shit before we even start rolling. We should have just recorded that coming in dope.
SPEAKER_01:Bro, we were talking podcast shit on live on live last night.
SPEAKER_00:We we was up at six o'clock in the morning to drop podcast. They done they done they done uh what Jimmy Kimball, they the CK. We make sure I can't talk no more because I've been talking, I've been there with my homie, old school OG for acting, man. Low from the infamous group Low Down and Dirty, notorious South. One of my uh rap idols from my hometown. Well, the pioneer. So the pioneer of this thing. Ain't nothing dirty, man.
SPEAKER_01:Ain't nothing like a peacancy.
SPEAKER_00:Ain't nothing but like a pequan seed.
SPEAKER_01:Oh, hey, oh, you tell them chocolate.
SPEAKER_00:Chocolate, man. So in between no hedge, man. What are you talking about? So, like, just to be able to talk with uh this wonderful uh student of the game and uh mentor of the game uh from production and everything, and being friends with him and and being being friends with dirty, being in the hood in Spring Valley, just chilling, we just talking, joking, and I'm sitting like, man, I'm telling you, we can do this. Man, I'm telling you, man, Addison's gonna be on, we're supposed to be on the map. And we we we on the map, because we got a lot of national championships between swimming and football. I know, right?
SPEAKER_01:But you know what's crazy? Baseball too. That's like that's that's like we would we were talking. Shit, hey, we used to have basketball until we got hit with that NCAA shit.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, no one don't remember that that that conspiracy. They they with Jim H Jim Harrow and Cole. Yeah, and then and then they end up taking a lot of money for the reason why you're on Harley see David Green and all of them around and David Pollock and all of them on, is because it was a Ponzi scheme. They he they still were getting got by uh by them even after he opened that uh even after he got their restaurant downtime. See, I ain't know that. They scammed that man they did. Yeah, they're gonna be a good one.
SPEAKER_01:But you but you know what's crazy is how much money is in the community. Because like I tell people all the time, I said, like I was telling somebody about UGA, and I and a lot of people just see it as a college or university. I said, bro, they don't put shit back into the community ever. I said, because when you look at certain aspects about UGA, they have their own power plant.
SPEAKER_00:They're they're chicken, they got everything.
SPEAKER_01:Poultry, beef, they have all this these different commodities that they don't they don't outsource to anybody. They just bring, they just, they, they are their own community.
SPEAKER_00:No, they don't, they don't, they don't, it's so as a chef, I used to get, they used to try to sell uh some of the restaurants. I've been at a hotel and a couple restaurants I we've been at. I've had a couple guys from over there try to sell me some beef from over there, right? Because I was looking, I was dealing with a lot of different local farmers just from around our area because as a chef, that's what you're supposed to do. You're supposed to kind of reach out to your local farmers, reach out to people who got stuff who are not, because they don't sell stuff the way uh purveyors come through and sell stuff. They don't make that much money. Right. So I I did a lot of business with a lot of people and UGA, they they don't push that out like that. The only thing that I feel like UJ does for Athens is if you need a job, you can get a job. Yeah. And they about almost messed that up, I believe, a little bit. I think so too.
SPEAKER_01:Because you remember when they were, they were the society was pushing heavy to go legalize with marijuana.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Do you know that they were already pushing to go because they already have their own hemp farms there? Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:So Athens, so I don't know if you know this, but they had a couple shops around Athens. Like not UGA, but just regular people who were students of UGA. Yes. Classic City, they're shut down now.
SPEAKER_02:What?
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, because I want to at the time, my dad got some land out there on uh one like going to a 106 danger. I want we got like 3.75 acres or whatever. I want to utilize some for the hemp bill that was coming in. Now, what people don't understand about Adam George is that we actually have our own strand of weed. Yeah, yes, right. So we we actually are the inventors of what you call Kush, or the strand green crack, which has been basically tagged on by Snoop Dogg and a lot of people. But back in the 70s or 80s, you can look this up, Chat GPT, uh Greencrack, or the former known as Kush, uh, because that's what strand green crack is, uh, came from growers at UJ. They made that strand, which has been a strand that has been one of the most prevalent strands in the last 40, 50 years. Right, absolutely. You know what I'm saying? And it comes directly from where we stay from. Niggas from Athens don't know that type of information.
SPEAKER_01:Because I mean they don't do that research. They just go, they just run with whatever names that you got on. Oh boy, this is that cookie. Boy, this exotic, this is exotic, this ain't gas.
SPEAKER_00:When when when everybody started doing the weed game, I was going back and forth from Adna to Lano, and uh the runs came out.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:And I would, they would, man, I seen the park go from this to that to this to that, trying to try to try me 300 for a zip. I'm like, how much money I'm gonna make off that? I ain't gonna make no money off this. Even when people were selling$25 around, it was hard to get$25 for out of nigga's pocket for a gram. That weed had to be dumb bad. Right. So I said shit. I was a chef. I was like, man, I'm finna go. I'm gonna go out with. I got Femlock though. I said, I'm gonna go to the weed conference. So I went to uh San Francisco first, went to the uh High Times Weed Conference, right? So now I'm digging in strands for real. Like the cookies, like cookies 415 basically supplied that era strands for a long time. And what people don't know after so long a strand dies. Yeah, absolutely. That's why you don't see a lot of the weeds that like the sour diesels and uh a lot of the different weed that we love growing up, you don't see them no more. But the thing about Runz, Runce was always a gimmick. Because Runts was nothing but wedding cake or what you call birthday cake strand, right? If you got birthday cake, you had white runs. Right, right, right, right. People didn't know that because people didn't know strands. They end up tagging it runs, and now everybody got it. Cookies had uh animal cookies. Yeah. The cookie 415 menu animal cookies, mimosa, gelato, it was like five strands. Right. That's why cookies 415 not doing. I'm a uh avid uh marijuana smoker. Right. Avid. So these people don't understand that in Athens, we are supposed to have some kind of toeho on this game in Georgia as growers. That's why, like right now, I'm going into a process with NACA, FHA, uh the Georgia uh but not the University of Georgia, but the government agricultural lawn.
SPEAKER_02:Yes.
SPEAKER_00:Trying to get some land, possibly in this area or an area I am now. That way, when because it's coming, right? Oh, yeah, it's coming. But the point is, most African Americans in our culture, we don't see what you call like the variable curve. You can't see in the future. We'll wait till something hit and then everybody jump on it. Most of the stuff that we're doing right now, even podcasting or uh video shooting and stuff like that. We've been doing this for a long time in our area when people didn't even have these resources. JJ was one of Surgery Fans were one of the resources and actors that we had, and when we didn't have a photographer actor. So I remember he came to my hood, I was going through some stuff, and uh we were gonna we were finna link up to do a uh documentary. You know what I'm saying? Walked around with me and everything. We talked, had a good time at my mama hall. You know what I'm saying? So I've always wanted to do something with you, you know what I'm saying? Always respected what you did and the talent that you brought and the skill that you brought for act for for Athens. Because being Atlanta, they had those type of pieces, and we never had that, and people wanted to blow, and they didn't know that you was a piece that they needed to actually blow out of Athens because we need that visual aspect.
SPEAKER_01:So a lot of people don't know I was I was a director at one point in time, and like shit, they don't know how many awards I got. Shit, I even got recruited by UGA to be one of their film uh um videographers, and like like I know a lot of people don't even know this shit. I've even done like shit for individuals that are on bang roads now, yeah. And like I told somebody, somebody asked me the other day, Jack, JJ, how long have you been shooting videos? I said, shh, I said, I don't really like calling them videos, I like shooting movies. You're a movie, they said, Why do you like calling them movies? I said, Because I want to see a plot line, I want to see the meat and potatoes, I want to see it it plays out because I was that kid that was raised up in the 90s and believing the whole store.
SPEAKER_00:Thank you, people, yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Like when I saw how it's going down, or when I saw Big Pimping, when I saw when I saw 106 in Park, when I saw Rap City the Basement, yeah, that's what I wanted to do. I seen it, but now these kids are doing these running guns. I understand a lot, I like the visuals, I like the aspects that they act, they add into it, but a lot of times I break this shit down. I'm like, okay.
SPEAKER_00:It ain't no thought process. No, it's not. It's zero thought process like if you jammed and got a viral clip or jammed and got a viral hit out of it, you just really just jammed.
SPEAKER_01:Bro, you but but the thing is, um, you just put it up there, you shoot to you shoot one location, two locations, three locations, and you just see me up there goddamn just dancing with the stick. Yeah. Just dancing with the pole. That's all I'm doing. Instead of, hey, bro, hey, that's what I want to be like.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:But not to knock nobody, but it's it's just it's just where's the lack of creativity. We were talking about that with movies last night.
SPEAKER_00:So some people I feel like it's we talk about this era and such a because they don't respect stuff. Even though we had the same thought parts or help y'all get the thought process that y'all are at now, we cared about our shoes. We used to clean them because we ain't had nothing. See, uh, I tell my son this all the time because I see that the money comes to him and he just don't care. It's like we can get it like that. So we respected it if we would have got it. It don't mean we wouldn't have messed it up after we got so much of it, just like me and Lowe were talking about like that. It's it's hard for a person who's never been financially or been in the fame or been a star to accept that off the river. You need someone to guide you through being like if you go to college and you had a demo tape out in Athens and you come back and every girl that you used to want is sitting there telling some, hey, because of your album, you go you your brain rate is gonna change a lot differently because you used to be the weird rapping dude that no one liked. Yup.
SPEAKER_01:But it but that's it's fucked up how that that happens. Because it's it's messed up that everybody, like, when you put the shit out, nobody fucks with you.
SPEAKER_00:It got to hit for everybody to focus.
SPEAKER_01:If it hits everywhere else, and then next to no, it's like my area slow to catch on. It's like, bro, I've been doing this shit. Well, I just saw your pocket. I'm bro, I've been doing this with the city.
SPEAKER_00:Have to go. I was telling Lord this last night, and I done told you this before. I done told Gene just a lot. No matter, Atnes is not a place you can build up interiorly. Okay, yes, I can see. You feel like you can build there from the people you know because we are from a town of all these haters, all these hoes, and all these hustlers. Yes, yes, yes. Listen, and it sounds messed up to say that this is the classic city, man. You know what I'm saying? This is this is not Savannah, this ain't Macon, this ain't Columbus, this ain't Atlanta, this ain't Decatur, this is the whole northern east side.
SPEAKER_01:But the fuck, but the but the fucked up part about it is you have individuals that will blow up and claim they from Athens and never set foot in Athens. Never, never, never, never been in, never been in the Bethel. Never been never been in the garden, never been in the AG.
SPEAKER_00:But they not trying to, but they're not making, they not doing it's uh me and Lowe said something about this night, like what who's the most famous person out of Athens that's a star? Because we don't got a rapper yet.
SPEAKER_01:So you're talking about that.
SPEAKER_00:I told them, I said, you if you want to name my first thought process, do what I told Lowe on the live last night. I said, Kenny Rogers will be my first thought process.
SPEAKER_01:Nobody realized Kenny Rogers is from Athens, though.
SPEAKER_00:I I said Kenny Rogers, I said I said, I never want to throw this shot at people, but anytime I want to just knock you out, RM. Yup. Now, if you want to go black, now B-52s, some of the group was from Athens, some of them weren't, someone from Watkinsville or whatever. B-52s, like, but I want to go our culture of black, right? That's our Athens culture. But our black culture, we have a homeboy, and he's uh of the Rainbow Comedy.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:But he's a comedian and an actor, and he's very famous. Who is it? I just cannot, I can't remember his name last night. But hold up, let me get it.
SPEAKER_01:But I'm gonna I'm gonna I'm gonna I'ma say something that you that a lot of folks don't don't agree with. Oh, Nene Leaks. Yep, Nene Leaks. Then we got Bubba.
SPEAKER_00:Bubba ain't Bubba ain't from Athens though. No, but we can give him because he already said like right, but he he repped Athens.
SPEAKER_01:He repped Athens though. But you'll see but you but you'll hear, but but Bubba will come down there and show his face. Nene Leaks had Athens look like it was country. She went and took them folks to got them Oglethorpe and showed and made people think that's what Athens looked like. You get what I'm saying? Yeah, we hunt, yeah, we fish.
SPEAKER_00:Oh, my look, my my big cousin, you know what I'm saying? Big Dexter Eccles. Yep. He was on um not uh Anthony Bardane, but the other cooking guy show from Overthought, uh Andrew Zimmerman. Yep. Uh so we got some, but I'm talking about as far as famous, I'm gonna pull this guy's name up. Hold on, I want to make sure. Cause this guy is, he he got his own movie, and a lot of people know him, I just don't know her name.
SPEAKER_01:But it's it's amazing how we know all these individuals. But the shit just don't take off. What a lot of people don't realize that Titus Burgess. Oh, Titus?
SPEAKER_00:That's one of the most famous people that I can say is from Actors. That's black in our community, that's a star, uh, movies, comedy. Titus Burgess from Athens, Georgia. Okay, okay. I see, I see it. Yeah, Titus Burgess. So we gotta understand it's people for action that are stars that we don't even know. Damn. It's it's people like and I have to always say this, cause I love and respect Elite the Showstopper with all my heart. Bro, he was one of it's a lot of people that had deals out of Adams. Yep.
SPEAKER_01:Hell Sambo.
SPEAKER_00:Body had a deal at one time. Uh I'll give you that. Uh it's a lot of people that had minor deals. I'ma say these guys' names. And they say catch one got a nice deal right now. I don't know. He the last time I remember when I I was in the county about three years ago. Uh they said it was at the goddamn uh music awards with the big catch one Taylor. I was like, boy, and I I I be wanting to see that you can't be from your city if it don't matter who up there. I don't care who up there. I don't care what side of town you from. I don't care if I like you, don't like you, know you, don't know you, I wanna see you there. I wanna see you win. I wanna see you win, dog. I just ain't never been like that. I don't care. I won't I want Tony B to win so bad. You wanna know why? Why I feel like Tony B is one of the person who actually has the blueprint. But like every artist, right? We all got our own personal flaws. Yes. Could be the complaining by everybody hating. Yeah. But I feel like his other problem is that when he rap, and I'ma say this, and I'm not hating, I love you, you know me, did Joseph Houston third on it. You be rapping like you rap off paper. If you stop doing it, it don't never sound like you really know the song. No matter what hit you do, you done had hits, and it sounds like you like this, it sounds like you rapping out, it don't sound like you actually know the song. It sounds like someone gave you the song. Somebody wrote it for you. You see what I'm saying? Somebody your own penny pat. And it and I never feel because of Tony Voice, I never feel no passion out of what he's saying. I don't know. Because when he got that, let me see that ass drop. That was 80% of what I want out of Tony.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:That was the best Tony B version you can ever see. He was there, that was like, you all you but you I'm talking about, if I were Dame dancing too, I'm like, you almost there.
SPEAKER_01:What's the other song that the Migos took? Because he was about to blow with that song, but the Migos went and did their own version of it.
SPEAKER_00:I don't, I can't say it. It can't be Fight Night. I just I just always remember Fight Night because I know Twan made to be.
SPEAKER_01:A lot of people don't know. The Migos used to say they were from Athens. But they from O'Connor.
SPEAKER_00:Look, when Low, when Lowe put this on me last night, I'm gonna I'm gonna put it like that. I'm gonna tell you what I know. I know this is what I know about the Migos in the Athens affiliation. I know that Mike Ball, from what I think I know, I'm gonna say think I know, is take off daddy. Yeah. Right? Yeah. His mama, they from what I know, I don't even believe they were born in Addis.
SPEAKER_01:No, they weren't.
SPEAKER_00:They're born on North Side.
SPEAKER_01:That's why they called it North.
SPEAKER_00:And um, but his mama, because his mama, after Mike Ball had his run a little bit, or during the run, she dipped on him. Yeah. They they separated and moved up to the A. That's and then uh I don't know nothing about Quavo. Yeah. I've never seen him. I done seen, I know his folks that I see in pictures with him online. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know what I'm saying? That that cause I see Sheila Wise around a lot. I see uh mama be on, I forgot uh mama's name. I forgot that that that lady's name, but she went around, she she still real beautiful. Yeah. And still try to act, you know. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know what I'm talking about. Yes. But uh she that's her her cousin, her nephew, I believe. Yeah. Uh but I've never seen him in Athens directly like that. I know, and I've never heard them claim acting personally. I'm just saying that from when I was in Atlanta.
SPEAKER_01:Who was it? Was it um who just got locked up not too long ago when he got done and took him on a high speed chase? Well, he was out less than a month.
SPEAKER_00:Uh for Athens?
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. Cause he got busted. The first time he got busted on the black road. Oh, uh, James. Talking about James here? Mm-mm-mm-mm mm. Um, what's his fucking name? Because he took him on the took him on a run. Cause it's Quavo signed him.
SPEAKER_00:Oh, yeah, Petro. Petro, yeah. Uh, what's called something called now? Petro. I'm gonna tell you of someone that I feel made away for anything that no one don't respect. Petrol mama, Mona.
SPEAKER_01:Oh, hold on, hold on. Mona J is Petrol.
SPEAKER_00:Petrol mama, bruh. That's how he got that. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:I did not know Mona.
SPEAKER_00:Mona done put me on in Atlanta. Like, I done I'd have been at A. She put me on with the dude. I was on the first season of Love. I was, well, the first show of Love for Hip Hop, right? Right. Uh, because I was working as a kind of like a marketing director for Jay uh for Dave DeJoule. Yeah. Dave the Jewler, she was, I don't know what her affiliation with Dave DeJulia. She was doing someone, but she had, but Mona plug.
SPEAKER_01:Bro, I I remember working with Mona at Athens Regional.
SPEAKER_00:I was at tech with Mona. But but that's what I'm saying.
SPEAKER_01:I did not know that was Petro Mama. I used to see I used to see Mona over there.
SPEAKER_00:She moved out to uh Cali. And I hate to say this, this ain't no disrespect. But I just gotta because if people go look at this online, Mona, you know people gonna see. So I'm not saying this to talk about you. I just want to make sure you understand. She moved out to Cali, doing good. She ended up uh I believe she's in a relationship with a uh a dude kind of like porn star. Yeah. Everybody was kinda trying to cry on a little bit. No, you know. But Mona go get it anywhere she goes, bro. I'm talking about from the body. It don't mean that she's a superstar famous, but to me, a woman at the boy, she has put in her work and her due diligence to be in the industry because she is a part of the music industry, and people don't know that. You know what I'm saying? Like in Atlanta, she pushed me, man, she showed me a lot of love as a Athenian and a homeboy who went to school for marketing and athletes and had a record label up there and did marketing and put in, you know, someone who's gonna put you in another room. Like be like, look, go mess with him. He's gonna put you on. You know what I'm saying?
SPEAKER_01:I mean, but that's what it that's what it all is about, networking. Because you gotta you gotta figure out I might not have the key to that room, but somebody else might you gonna help me down getting into that room.
SPEAKER_00:People don't on don't don't give Mona that type of respect, but but Mona got some keys, bro. I'm talking about some keys getting rouge, but you be like, but I appreciate that.
SPEAKER_01:So this this is my question. So it's fucked up to me when I've seen when I hear people like they pass judgment before judgment is even due. Because they'll say, that's like that bullshit ass T app.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, that T app, boy, y'all got hit. Hey, I'ma let y'all Negroes know. That's why I ain't never had one no car. I posted on Facebook where y'all were getting hit. I'll be y'all caught the message, but that's why I ain't never had one no car, man. My daddy taught me that when I was young.
SPEAKER_01:Hey, but don't hey look, we was just talking about it. Look, like hey, that's what I was just telling him a second ago. Why should I rather jump in my lower?
SPEAKER_00:She wanna fuck my car. There you go, there.
SPEAKER_01:But like I was telling you, shit, I'm ready to get rid of my charger. Because if I go anywhere, people say, Oh, is it top black? Is it front wing shit tennis?
SPEAKER_00:Oh, that's such a city. No, because we used to think it's uh like when I see that, anytime I seen that, I thought that was my homeboy, the other nigga who shot uh with for step one now. Yeah. I used to think he him and his girl here one right over the uh Talesy just like that. You know what I'm saying? It was like an orange color. And then the only orange one in Andrew. So you knew it with Dick. You know what I'm saying? You knew it was him. So that's why I ain't never, I swear to God, I've never Well, that's why my shit stays in the garage every time. I'm glad that my father taught me the thing that he taught me about cars. I've never been that car guy. I don't care. I've never been that person who really I've been flashing. I love jewelry. Bought some jewelry. I'ma buy some jewelry, man, because I I feel like it's an investment. Right to a certain extent. I try not to buy BS. I don't know why y'all buying stuff off TikTok. Why? Why the f why listen, why the I gotta ask that question of y'all. Why y'all buying this T Mu jewry and stuff? I'm not saying it ain't stuff to be bought off Timu.
SPEAKER_01:You talking about them, you talking about them, them, them them APs. But uh yeah, but come on.
SPEAKER_00:If you're gonna buy some jewelry, at least get you some real metal, man. Even if you're gonna go marcanite. If you got a little marcinite on there, okay, I got a little marcanite. But get you the real metal. If you don't get the real metal, you're you gonna get killed about something fake, man. Yeah. Like for real. Like you gonna go out here with all this stuff on, it's shining for a couple days. And someone's gonna rob you about something that ain't even real. At least try to have something on there. Real. I'm not saying, I'm not talking about nobody. It just don't make no sense to die for fake ass shit.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, no, not no nigga, not no glass.
SPEAKER_00:No saying I'm getting what you and you don't want to come out there, man. I ain't coming off my fake dirt chain.
SPEAKER_01:But you give that nigga that fake that dirt. Give that shit. Get that nigga that shit, bro. You get that shit back?
SPEAKER_00:Bro, get what, man. That Freddy Gill said to me, man, y'all are free picking, free chicken, because you don't want to give up that rap, that thought process of your little rap image to go down because you gave your chain up to keep from dying. But you better let that rap image go. I'm worth more than goddamn 10. But I'll come back and rap about how they took my chain. I bought another one. Back in the day, we can't listen. Back in the day when we were young, if someone robbed you, we didn't think the person who got robbed was like. Hell no. When we see that person pull up and something new or got some new shit, like, yeah, they robbed me last week, but shit. I'm back.
SPEAKER_01:I'm back. I'm nigga out of it.
SPEAKER_00:They fucked them a little bad. Yeah, but I'm back. I'm back. I done seen nigga acting and get robbed 50 times he still right now. Thank you. And he got plenty of money. And done had plenty of money, but it just shows how much y'all hating on that man. I believe that's that person's son we talking about. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I think so. Is it is that it starts with a W or something? Wingfield or something, man? Yeah, yes, yes, yes. Yeah, but see, I'm on that, I'm that one. I don't care who called for me. I and that that's why I say stuff I say, because I say your name. You can address me. My name's Joseph Houston. You know my mama, you know Brunner, you know, you know me. You know I've been they call me crazy Joe when I was little. You think it stopped? You know what I'm saying? So I'm gonna actually tell the truth. I'm not gonna sit here and be if I'm talking about you or talking about a subject about you, I'm I can say names, places, all that stuff.
SPEAKER_01:But but that's but but but that true aspect of it is because we don't live in a facade. Nah, we live in the real world. Because a lot of people think that, oh, that social media is a real place.
SPEAKER_00:No, it's not.
SPEAKER_01:They live off of that, like, like, oh, but now because I was telling somebody one day, I said, um, like when I was living overseas, I had a bunch of homegirls that was triples. I never saw them with their makeup off. So we threw a cookout one day, and they showed up with their makeup off.
SPEAKER_00:You didn't even know who they was. But what the fuck? You thought different people trying to come like, who are you?
SPEAKER_01:Hey, but hell no, you ain't put on this Jack. This is me. This is JJ, this is me. Jeep a creeper. Big Jeep. That's that's what the fuck I think you look like.
SPEAKER_00:I used to work in a strip club as a chef. And before I worked there in this shit, it was vivid. Club. Yeah, yeah. So I've been in and out of the strip club doing my thing my whole life. But I never actually worked in it, know how it worked. You know, people think you know how a strip club works until you actually there. Yep. I was inside that motherfucker. First night about strip clubs, I never thought about. You can get robbed. Hell yeah. We never got robbed, but everybody went over strapped. Everybody. I'm talking about everybody. Even the strippers, I know. Strapped because they could come through that door, like they could. Could you think about it? I never thought about it. That would be the sweetest lick in the world. Go out there and rob the strip club. Everybody hit that. Let go. That's crazy. I never thought about it until I worked in a strip club. Secondly, I know everybody been in love with a stripper, uh, porn star or somebody. If you have it, you ain't no guy, right? I'm just saying. I'm not saying that you're not a guy. You are a guy, but you just not a guy like us.
SPEAKER_01:Look, we would hey, I'm gonna go into it. I'm gonna put it put it out there like this. Shit, I I heard niggas that last night at work talking about goddamn um hating on Cardis Bays areolas. I I didn't see wrong with them.
SPEAKER_00:I seen the pictures of y'all talking about her areolas look like the Thomas English muffins. I like Thomas English muffins. I'm a shit. But like them talent English muffins. I'm trying to figure out a Duchy Stank so I can get my fantasy over. Y'all let me know. Who gonna let me know? Because I got the picture on my phone right now. This is crazy. Man, that's your man one of the older cats. Man, I'll say it, boy. You a fool, boy. I don't know how you fuck with that bag. Oh boy. I'm so I'm sorry, but I don't but forget the bag. I'm talking about the bag, man. But I ain't letting out. I'm sorry, boy. Y'all crazy, boy. You better be trying to well, I don't I know it probably weird now. She done had a baby out of nothing trying to get a baby. Uh hold on. But you do got like three kids, but uh, four how many kids you got a lot of kids, bro. At least you stamped it.
SPEAKER_01:But hey, but the but the crazy part about it is he might have a lot of kids. He might let her go back out. But that's like somebody asked me the other day, would what would you try to spin back? I said, it depends on the level of disrespect that you go through. Boy, I'm spinning. But but you get what I'm saying? It depends on the level of disrespect. We are celebrity. There ain't no disrespect.
SPEAKER_00:You doing an album right now, baby. Oh shit. See, y'all didn't look that while my wife loves me. You see how supportive I am right now? Baby, go on shake that. You doing an admiral. Yeah, it's all right. By the book. Because you think about the bag on the back end. I'm not finna mess your money. I'm a business man. I'm not finna mess your money up. So let's talk about that. Most dudes can be pimps.
SPEAKER_01:Most dudes ain't dudes. But because any motherfucker I fuck with certifiably, any motherfucker I fuck with certifiably, if I fuck with you, I wanna see you win.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, like that's why I say like if if you if your occupation is selling coochie, and I'm a market manager, right? And I know business and I know people who buy coochie. Hey, go on over there. Man, look, this nigga papers a pretty good motherfucker. Don't go to him, he ain't gonna try to give them on the 40.
SPEAKER_01:Hey, because like like bro, I used to tell folks, like when I went to um like when I used to go to strip clubs, I used to have regulars. They used to come over there and got them no, if I they came over there, I'll buy him a drink, we'll sit down in politics, whatever. Yeah, yeah. And I see a motherfucker looking at her, I say, hey, I'll put a nap. I put a napkin over her drink. I said, That dude over there looking at you, go get your money. Get your money. She's talking about something for real. I said, go get your money. I'm hey, I'm gonna be here after.
SPEAKER_00:If in in the respect that I give, if you care about my nah, I ain't gonna give you no respect for that. Because my family from San Francisco, I come from a line of assistant, assistant, assistant pimps. You feel what I'm saying? And I'm I respect this shit. Look, if you sit here feeling about my feelings, talking about, I are you okay with me going over there? I'm mad at you for asking me, am I okay if you go over there? I'm okay. I'm not okay if you don't go over there. Now I'm gonna be okay.
SPEAKER_01:I'm gonna be pissed off if you don't come back with no money.
SPEAKER_00:I'm pissed off. I feel pissed on if you come back with no money. I'm mad because you didn't even want to go over there to see what the if the money it's about some money. Right, right, right. If you just want to- and we in a strip club and this is a money situation. Because I mean Because I might be helping you get more money by you sitting over there talking to me and the fit folk and folk hating on me. Sometimes I used to do that in strip clubs. I had friends that were girls at strip clubs, and we'd sit there and shit politics. When it's a slow night, she's sitting there politics with me just to make sure it looked like I'm like her boyfriend and ain't gonna get mad and want to spend money. Yep. It's a whole game.
SPEAKER_01:Yep. Man, shit. Let me tell you something. Cause uh a lot of y'all don't realize this shit. Cause I do that shit for my homegirls too. Like they go on that stage and dance and shake their ass. And I tell them, hey, when you get up, this motherfucker, these niggas watching. So you gotta go up there and motherfucker and goddamn put on a motherfucking show. Therefore, so we can goddamn make this bag. You'll see me throw$20 out. This motherfucker goddamn told me, man, I'm gonna outdo this nigga. Yep. And he gonna throw 40. Another motherfucker might throw 60.
SPEAKER_00:Look, dudes, I try to tell my son all the time, you need female friends that you don't try to have sex with. Like real female friends.
SPEAKER_01:First of all, a lot of niggas don't understand that. And a lot of females don't understand that because they they they think that every female that we cool with, we gotta try to fuck.
SPEAKER_00:You need them, bro. They got so when I got out of prison, bro, I knew it was females that it was so females I just kind of smashed.
SPEAKER_01:I don't feel like it was they couldn't, that you couldn't smash. I just felt like we have a different bond.
SPEAKER_00:We were too good of a friend. It don't mean that our friendship was so close and then feel like maybe if we take this to a different level, it would be good. But it was like, I would rather have you as a friend than to lose you as a in a relationship. Relationship.
SPEAKER_01:Because the way I look at folks, certain individuals, like I value more is that you're a friend. It means so much more to me to have you as a friend than on that next level. Because you know what I'm saying? Because it's like I know I got your back the same way you got mine.
SPEAKER_00:I want to know why women are better friends than men than men are to men. Talk to me. No matter how cool you are with a dude, no matter if y'all grew up together, and I hate to say this, this is just my thought process. I'm not saying I don't have a friend that we thoroughly love each other. I thoroughly love a lot of my friends, and I know they love me. But a dude always has jealousy. Yeah. So that means if both of us start off with an ounce, right? I come back next week. You still got the same stuff. Like you doing your thing, but I come back next week in the bench. Lit. Like, bro, what up? Oh, hold on, hold on, hold on. Hey, yeah. Yeah, you finna gonna get two on? Hey, I'll be on, let me go drop two. I'm gonna come back right back before which I'm gonna bring some drinks too. You sinna like What the fuck? No man, I don't care what nigga you is. Now, now if that's a girl, I'm gonna tell you the game between girls being your friend. Women want to see you doing good. Women want you to promote you. They want you to be in a good position. Cause they're motherly. Yeah, yeah. We are men. Yeah. After so long, it don't counter how much you up. If I ain't up with you, nigga, fuck you. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You get what I'm saying? That's how that shit goes. Unless you just say an undying, like y'all just done bend up from the bottom. Yeah. Y'all done had a struggle with you. You gotta be there, you done been at the bottom with the nigga, you gotta have some money. You done been in the bottom with the nigga, you gotta have some money. Okay, if not, a nigga gonna feel some kind of way about you if you go up on him. If you working at a job right now, both of y'all start together,$20 hour. Y'all happy about$20. Then, but his credit fucked up, your credit good, you go pull up in the challenger, and he still riding the Toyota. Boy, he hot. He hot, he's 38. You get what I'm saying? He wanna know how you got it. Yup. Bro, but how you got down there? He ain't he ain't saying that like, bro, hey man, you know, um, you that credit prep place you were telling me about, bro, but put me on games, I got to get me something new, bro, about next year, bro. I've been saving up. Hell yeah, my nigga, da da da. Not not just in a nigga, man, fuck that nigga, bro, man. Man, that's why man, that nigga cheat on that girl, bro. Oh, they start throwing out dime. Hey, look, look, like, man, shh, man. No nigga pedal talking. That one thing about nigga, I look, thug. I done seen your kind before. Listen, I done seen people act like they ain't told nothing. It's okay, brother. This is what I want to tell you, though. Look, man. You done had your run. Sometimes when you lose the game, you can get booed off or you can get walk off. You got a choice right now. Don't get booed off, dog. You gotta be, well, that's kinda that's kinda, you get booed right now. But you can make it worse. Now, you free, right? You don't got to be done throwing on everything you said to no folk when you walking out that courtroom. Look, I'm gonna try to be, uh, I'm gonna do some free concerts, and we're gonna you need to be doing that. Be a civilian. Look, get what? Go do some gossip music like yeah, doing Y ain't doing some gossip music, he listening. Go do a gossip song like Yay doing, bro.
SPEAKER_01:He didn't yet get with the uh the attorney.
SPEAKER_00:Oh nah nah, the person who with the turn is uh Shannon. He chillin'. You see, he ain't here. Shannon chillin', go make you a gospel song, bro. It'll be alright. Cause you do not bank let you get away. Real street niggas, nah. We seen as in that interview, as soon as you start doing like this, and we know you ain't on drug no more. Cause I know you when you used to be on drugs and you actually used to be like that. So we know you ain't on drug. And when you start acting like that and start playing, when you were talking about where you from, you were, yeah, man, you know I'm from goddamn Joan Burrow's out dah duh. Everything was all good. Soon they started talking about that situation, you shaking like a two-dollar hole in Sunday server. Got uncomfortable like a motherfucker. I feel you. Got the tweaking, got the tweaking. Yeah, what? Where I come from, and off from the country, off from Adam George. Look here. They tell you off the rip. If you go in there, you don't know nothing, bruh. I was 15, 14 years old. You can't sit here and pull that on me, bruh. I was 14, 15 years old. I had people telling on me. And I'm sitting there like this, yeah. My lawyer showing me the paperwork. Rest in peace, Todd Woo. He's showing me the paperwork. Man, this man telling on you, this man tending on you. Lil Joe, they gonna give you a year. Take the five years, do one, go do some RYDC time, get out and do and get what? You you might not even get RYDC time. We might go and get you to the military, gonna get you up out of here. You gotta get you doing good at his show. You gotta get IQ, you done busted basic skill test, just go on. Get what I wanna be. I thought I was Tupac. I want to be MT. I want to be titty head. I wanna be uh Big Dale from Spring Valley. I want to be fat G. I wanna be Shane. I wanna, I wanna I wanna be, I wanna go jail. I want to go jail. That's what I'm saying. See me down the road. I'm really like that. I know I am. I didn't know I was like that, it just don't happen.
SPEAKER_01:I was, but it could have been a situation where I really wasn't. Because hey, we done seen a lot of niggas got them going go behind that wall, go on them stay and go on them staycations and they ain't built for that shit. They be up there talking about some tap out. I'm uh I'm I'm reformed.
SPEAKER_00:Well, I got a I got a home where and this I don't when I get in these situations, I don't say no name. But it's someone who disappointed me when I was locked up really bad, and I was there to save him. I could have saved him. All he had to do was want to be saved. And he didn't do it, and he ain't even really about homework. He ain't we ain't from the same hood, and I tried to save him. Look, just think about it, you know that shit don't go. Nigga, you in and I I don't look at better hole at the West Side. I just want to make sure y'all understand that. That's me, that's that's that's central ass. That's central ass, yeah. You know what I'm saying? So the dude I'm talking about, he's from the belt. Oh, lived in the belt a lot. I ain't gonna say you're from, but it's ready for party. Oh god. Really, we out of the nigga party, I believe. But but I was there to save him, and he wouldn't let me. He basically was if a dude.
SPEAKER_01:Maybe call them crash dummies.
SPEAKER_00:Nah, I'm I'm gonna put like this up. If you're in a situation, I'm in another situation with a homeboy, and I say a name, because they're my partner. There, he like, bro, I don't know what I'm gonna do with this shit. You know what I'm saying? We was in boot camp. He like, bro, I don't know. I was like, bro, I got you. I don't give a fuck, bro. Bro, I'm I'm you know what I'm saying? You know, I didn't know I would then when I was telling Lola, like, that when I kind of just first started feeling like I knew I was that. You know, I was already the nerd, the cool, the weird, whatever. You know what I'm saying? My dad smoked dope, all that, goddamn. You know what I'm saying? So I was already chasing the dream of wanting to be a gangster or wanting to be whoever I thought I was. Little Joe Springfield, Joe Cool, Crazy Joe, whoever I thought I was. But I ain't know who I was until I seen someone want to remember my own words. Yeah. Then I really knew how much I cared for actors and how gangster I was for real and who I was. Because I realized from being on streets in the east side, west side, and not getting along with you, that I could get over this because ain't no one else gonna fuck with us and make us look back. Cause when I seen how um towns and cities get portrayed if your people don't look good, I ain't want us to look like that in Chang'e. Right, absolutely. And I'd have been in situations where I done went to Chang, they be looking at you like, oh, your homeboy, some BS. Right. And you looking like I can't believe that.
SPEAKER_01:On that note, I gotta cut it short. Right. Cause I gotta get to my son's dentist appointment.
SPEAKER_00:Dennis appointment.
SPEAKER_01:Hey, that's what it talks about. Hey, real shit, you gotta do daddy shit straight up. But thank you for making getting us here on four. Sister Puss only meets the recipe. Man, all the menu. Hey, we out.
