As I roamed through historic landmarks and cemeteries with Coach Dimitri, the untold stories of Black history whispered to us from the shadows of the past. This episode takes you alongside us on a voyage to unearth the narratives that have been lost or intentionally obscured over time. We debate the necessity of recognizing the depth of Black history beyond the confines of slavery, celebrating the myriad of events and figures that have been essential yet neglected. Through our discussion, we highlight the importance of historical preservation, not only to honor the strides toward progress but also to prevent the repetition of its most somber chapters.
Have you ever considered the influence of the Moors on European history, or how historical manipulation, such as the defacement of Egyptian statues, has shaped our understanding of the past? Coach Dimitri and I tackle these questions head-on, confronting the troubling instances of historical erasure. Our conversation takes a turn into the impact of collective action, drawing strength from unity and self-awareness among minority groups, and how this can change the tides of history. We also challenge the distortion of religious narratives that have historically benefited racial biases, calling on listeners to appreciate the diverse contributions of African cultures.
The podcast finally strips back the layers of identity, peeling back the complexities that have formed the modern concept of race. I share my personal journey of self-discovery as a biracial individual, navigating through the intersections of heritage and humanity. We delve into the origins of racial constructs, biblical genealogy, and the ancestral roots of contemporary holidays. Furthermore, this episode does not shy away from the hard truths, discussing Haiti's role as the first black republic and its ongoing struggles, while reflecting on the internal cultural impacts of racism within black communities. Join us as we embrace the resilience and transformative power of black history, acknowledging the profound narratives that continue to shape our identity.
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What up, what up, what up.Speaker 2:
What's going on? Everybody hey how y'all doing.Speaker 1:
Sorry y'all can't see the big egghead of Coach DE has some of the spotted connection, but we're going to still have a dope live today. You go have a like button, share it out to everybody who you know who make gangsta value from another interesting live stream. And actually I'm going to go ahead and just jump out here and say it first E, I'm going to be a student here as well. Like I told you before, I did some quick research before this live man, but seems like you know, ever since I've known you and I, especially when I visited you up in your hometown of Illinois, man, in the cornfields of Illinois, you, you showed me through St Louis man, which is in too far from where you are man and you were, you are such a student of history, man, and history is one thing that when I was in school that I studied, I never found interesting man. I was always dozing off in class, man, but, bro, like just from riding around with you in your town and you like showing these different landmarks, hey, antonia, and you really breaking down the history of why you know. One thing that really stuck out in my mind that you said was the two cemeteries, and they were broken up by religion, like and they were across the street from each other man, and just things like that. You know, really just stick with me and you make it really interesting, so I'm just looking forward to you know hearing what you have to say about the topic today for one of our Black History talks.Speaker 2:
Yeah, man, and then hey, queen. I see queen and Tony out there, always out there, supporting the brother. Appreciate you, appreciate you. Listen, you are like the first one in Black History Month and, to be honest with you, I don't even like the notion of selling Black History, celebrating Black History in just one month. But it is what it is and we live where we live. It's funny how they chose the shortest month of the year. It's so crazy, man, that they chose the shortest month of the year to give us a month to celebrate. That's neither here nor there. We're here to celebrate One of the things that, for those that know me, I love what America has done for us progressing and we are one of the most progressive countries in this world and we have a horrible history, and most countries do. You can go back and check all of them and some type of war, some type of history, some type of racism, some type of just nastiness about each country. I mean I can't think of one squeaky clean country on this earth. If you know, please let me know. But we know that all of them have a history and a lot of that come with leadership, different times and different errors, and we don't want to be stuck on those, but what Coach Dimitri said was so near and dear to my heart, because I was raised that history repeats itself to those that don't know it, and what I want to avoid and make sure that we all understand is that our history didn't start with slavery. Let me say that first of all because during Black History Month we hear so much about slavery, so much about civil rights, so much about Malcolm X, martin Luther King, rosa Park. All that happened, all that was critical to get us where we are, but there's so much that happened before that that we don't talk about the school books, they don't discuss this, they don't want you to know this and you ask yourself, why would they not want us to know our history? I mean, this started a long, long time ago when they used to burn the books. Why do you think they burnt the books? Because they didn't want you to know history. They wanted to rewrite history. Why do you think they knocked the noses off those things over there in Egypt? Because they didn't want that big black nose. They wanted a little pointy nose, a little Pinocchio. There wasn't no Pinocchio on that statue, it was a black nose on there and they wanted to smite. They left the eyes, the ears and everything in place. They just wanted to knock that nose off. So there's a lot of things that have happened in history where they don't want us to get credit for, nor do they want to give themselves credit for, some of the horrific things that they've done. Now let me say this to make sure that you all understand I'm not being racist we done did some hell of a things in our history too. We started this thing. I was talking with Coach Dimitrius and I said wonder why they so mad, why we only make up 12% of the population but they so mad at us. They're so worried about us during black history, money any other. Why are they worried about 12%? I don't know about y'all, but if I met 65% population and somebody's at 12, I ain't worried about them. What they gonna do. We tripled them.Speaker 1:
Hold on, hold on, hold on. Let me push back. I fear you and from a logical standpoint you are absolutely correct. The numbers typically the one who has the most numbers typically rule or have the most power. But one thing that came to my mind when you said that was the movie slash historical story of 300. It wasn't but 300 of them, guys, man, but they were the dog and the dog. You know what I'm saying. It didn't take a whole lot of them because they had that leverage, they had that strategy, they had that unity man. So we only 12%, but that unity that we had when we stuck together back in the day as a whole collective man, that power man is unmatched. But go ahead, I want to go ahead and just say that.Speaker 2:
And I agree 1,000%. And they know that. The problem is do we know that? And the answer is they do everything to distract us from knowing that we are the greatest. We are the. You remember when they have those stories about the pirates and on the ships and things, if you do your history, you are. Those were black folks on those ships, those were moors. You better look them up. I'm going to say this real quick and then we're going to jump into Haiti and anybody can fact check me on this and prove me that I'm wrong. But the moors, who are black folks today, they conquer Sicily, which is part of Italy. For those that don't know, and if you know the Sicilian people, they have darker eyes, darker hair and they have a tan. The Sicilians were once blind-hair, blue eyes. What happened? The moors conquered Sicily and part of Spain and Portugal, but they conquered Sicily and they did so much screwing that they changed the entire bloodline of all Italians and Sicilians to where now you'll see some Italians that have a little curly fro. They got dark skin and guess what? They can't stand black folks. Why, if you go to Sicily and you look at some of the monuments and the statues, them, brothers and sisters, but that's a whole other story. Do your homework, fact check this. Tell me I'm a liar. These are facts. But they don't talk about this and they don't want you to know that you once ruled this entire earth. They want you to think that you were cavemen and we started out as cavemen. I watched the Flintstones. I ain't seen nobody black on there at all, have you. But there was. There's a thing called the Caucasus Mountains where they were cavemen and that's why they're called Caucasians today. But again, I ain't finna drop all this on y'all.Speaker 1:
Give us some. Give us some fireballs in the chat. Give us some thumbs up. Give us some shares. Give us some comments in the chat. Give us some man, because Coach B is playing no games. And this is just the tip of the iceberg, y'all, what is at the top of the hierarchy, that is, wtf Mentoring Academy. Go ahead and visit WTFMA to go ahead and check out what we have to offer y'all. And we do these lives as a gift to the community. We don't charge or anything. The only thing that we ask that y'all pay with is y'all's attention and y'all's interactions in these comments and share it. All right, so, e man? So let me just ask you a question, man, because I'm a student here and I feel like I'm learning a different part of you, man, and it's exciting. I just love learning and, like I said before, you make history very interesting, man. So how did you even get into the? How did you get into this lane of studying things like this? Because you could have kind of stuck with the textbook, the stuff that they teach us in school. But this is some very niche information, man. It's out there for everybody, man, but not everybody knows about this. So can you give? us some information on how you went down this rabbit hole.Speaker 2:
Absolutely so. For those that know I'm by racial AKA, a mulatto as they would call it back in the day, or a mutt that's where a mutt came from was mulatto. That's what they deemed us back in the day, and I don't take offense to that at all. My mother is white and my father is black, and when I grew up as a child, I used to hear the white and black and I was a thinker, even when I was a kid, and I knew that Hold on one second, oh, thank you. I was taught my alarm was going off on my other phone. I was taught that if you mix black and white, it creates gray. I think we all agreed on that, and it was one of those like, well, wait a minute, I don't look gray, my skin complexion isn't gray, so if I'm not black or white, then what am I? And I always had an issue with that. So I had an identity crisis growing up, so it caused me to study, because I was going to prove my nationality. I want to know who I was. I wasn't raised with my father, so he wasn't able to teach me anything but how not to be. So I never was able to, you know, really get that guidance from any type of elders. And I remember a Boogie Down production said I'm not white or black, I'm brown. From the Boogie Down I said, yeah, I'm brown. So I did a lot of research, you all and you know. And then, being part of the Bible, you know I was always like I may need being the first two people. How is that possible? And there's so many different cultures and races, how is it possible that we came from two people but we have these different races and everything in this world is driven by race. Most of the wars and most of the things that happen are race specific. So, with race being such a dominant thing, how is this possible? So I tried to trace it back and if you look at Genesis in the Bible, it talks about the lineage of all the great ones, starting from Adam and going all the way down to Jacob. And you know, you all know the stories. They're kind of boring. At the end of Genesis, when they're talking about the genealogy, they're doing it for a reason to create the genealogy for Jesus to come, and they always talk about the bloodline and how important it was. So I thought about it. I said, well, you know this is important. So let me do some research and during my research, I realized that, you know, the first people were black. And then I say, well, if everybody was black, how did we become white? How do you go from having color to not having color? And it took a lot of years. Where it can? I keep going, dimitri? I want to make sure on? Okay, so I know we ain't talking about Haiti, but this is leading up to Haiti. I mean, we'll talk about Haiti more next week also, but I want to keep going down this vein. So, when blacks ran the world from Africa, where the first people were created, everyone is agreed that that's where everyone was created from. They even have Lucy, that they's 100,000 years old, but we all started in Africa. And the sick and and the deformed, they used to hide them in the mountains and they'll lock them in those mountains and wouldn't let them come and be with the regular people. And they were pushed them away out of the motherland and they did that, and those mountains became the caucus mountains and those brothers and sisters that were pushed up in there were forced to go into slaves. I mean forced to go into caves. Now, if you've ever been in a cave. A cave is really dark, is very cold, and if you're in there long enough it's hard to see in the cave. So your eyes have to adjust and we, being the great people that we are, our eyes adjusted to where they became crystal blue so we can see in the dark. And then we were humped over, because slaves are. I mean, caves are very short so you have to stoop over, so you see a lot of white folks with those humps. And then you know it's cold and we're a tropical people. So, with it being cold, now if you've ever been in the cold and it's really cold your nose is tightened up and it'll squeeze up together and almost stay stuck on the inside. And they were in those caves for so many years that it literally changed their entire DNA from being black folks to being what we call today white folks. Even their hair became straight and blonde and they became cave men, just like the Flintstones and Neon Lothals. And eventually there's a book out there about Ya'aku, the big head scientist, who was actually the one that freed them from the mountains and taught them how to be civilized. But if you notice, they're not that far from being uncivilized and that's why this horrible way of acting and killing and doing different things is not that far afetched from them, because that's what they were used to. I'm going to keep going for a second, because some of your holidays came from these mountains, easter being one of them that's about to come up, because every year in these mountains, what happens during the spring? With the new moon, you have the rabbit and the egg, which meant new birth and new life, because rabbits don't even lay eggs. So there's symbolism to that, and Easter changes every year. It's never a set date. Where Jesus was supposed to rise at the three nights. It's never the same date. So somebody telling the lie, but those came from the mountains, the caucus mouths, and then incorporated that in the Christian religion.Speaker 1:
But again, man, I'm saying man bruh listen hey give us some old fireballs in the chat. Give us some like some shares, Listen let's go like this. And it's okay. But those who, those who ears, this message falls upon us, who was meant to hear it? You know, I'm saying in fact. Yeah, yeah, it's interesting to hear that side of it. What I was, what I was taught from like a biblical standpoint, was that up until Jacob and Esau, they were in the same womb and the Bible says that Jacob was from, you know, like basically the black bloodline, and Esau had red hair and basically it was two nations in that womb. So from a biblical standpoint, that's where the split happened. And then Esau was a, was a hunter and different things like that. That's probably where the where the barbaric side comes from, the Neanderthal side. And then Jacob, you know, he was more like a more nurturing, gentle person. So but it's interesting to hear that side of the story that you were explaining, man, because that's that's that's very interesting and I don't want to hold up the flow of what you were saying. I just want to go ahead and give you a quick breather and let the people know that this type of information you're not going to find hardly anywhere else except on our podcast, which is going to be coming out real, real soon. So keep an eye out for that. Visit WTF MA to get some more information coming up real soon about our WTF what's the formula? Podcast on all streaming podcast platforms coming real soon.Speaker 2:
Yeah, and let me say this real quick you all I never heard to down to downplay the Bible or any type of history. I love the Bible. I believe in the stories. A lot of it is subjective, it's based on your opinion of it. But I'm going to say this for my biblical folks when we talk about Adam and Eve, we're not talking about two individuals, because if we was, the world would never even be able to continue, because all they had were sons and one was killed. But when that one was killed, they sent the other one outside of the garden of Eden and he went and found him a wife. I'm going to pause that right there, because every pastor I know I see Kenneth Lee out there. That's pasting. That's the lead. Everybody I've asked this. They said they don't know. But how did Kane, after he slayed able and Adam put him out of the garden? Where does this say he went? Dmitri, I'll wait, you can research it. It said he went to another country and found him a wife and had some kids. Did he or did he not?Speaker 1:
That's why I'm not sure about a Michael Cohen or some. I'm not sure about a? I don't know at all. I said give her a boy.Speaker 2:
I took you quick to do some research. Look it up, it's right there. Genesis, when he, when he pushed him out. And here's the point that I'm making you. A lot of the stories in the Bible are there to paint us a picture and show us, you know, the right way to wrong way and things of that nature and other other races will take that Bible and manipulate it and and make it worse about them. That's why you'll see the blind, her blue eye, jesus on the, on the, on the walls with the abs, and like why he, how he got abs and he was leaving. I mean, we talked about somebody in Africa walking around looking like that. Come on, y'all. Like we know this is all racist. So you know, but they want to take away the history. This is what I'm talking about. So they want to change history and make it his story, because that's essentially what it is. And what I'm saying is, now that we know that, now that we know the history, then there's a reason why they're keeping our history from us is because they don't want you to realize that you are from kings and queens, that you did once rule this world, that you did have your foot on a lot of people next instead of their foot on brothers next over here, and there's a reason why they're upset. But this all happened thousands of years ago. This thing just happened, like Jesus's whole walk through the Bible. He was in Africa the whole time. And you mean to tell me in that son that this blind, her blue eyed, pale skinned person with abs was walking through there doing, come on y'all. That don't even make sense, but we buy it and it was beating to us through slavery because they know that they wanted us to look up to a guy that was blind, her in blue eyed, because they were mad because they were originally brothers and sisters that we locked into a mountain. So I get why they mad. Hey, this is a fact. Check B, look up this up. It's all. We live in the world of IT you are, and living the world of information. But we also live in a world full of distractions and we're distracted by tradition, which is religion, and religion will have us traditionally doing things in error and we justify it by saying, well, I'm doing this. I had one person, as I said, I don't understand this and he said well, you just need to fake it until you make it act as if you know. I said well, I don't believe God gonna steer me that way. He's the all new and the all I mean and we have all this information and you mean to tell me that I'm supposed to believe something. That's not true. But again, if we hold on to religion and it's again let me say this, this is not a knock on religion. Religion had its place to gather people and organize people. So I believe in religion being able to organize people, being able to gather people, being able to civilize some people through religion. But let's be honest, you are, there's a steps and degrees and you can't put my God in a bottle like you do. A genie. Let me be quiet, man, I ain't even kidding, yeah yeah, yeah, hey, listen, man.Speaker 1:
I'm not sure how much time we have left, but I definitely would like to touch a little bit on Haiti, man. And it's always good that we don't have these formats for the live structure, man, because this was not in my idea what the live was gonna be about, but I really feel like this is a lot of value and that's perfect. You know, these are the best conversations that we have, man, is when you can just really show a different side of yourself and soak an eye on the drop of a dime. So, but yeah, as far as Haiti, man, if you wanna just talk about kind of like some overall surface stuff, to kind of break the ice for next week and we can dive deeper into it next week we've already given off a ton of information. We don't wanna overwhelm and blow any more minds because my mind is like, hey, you know, but it's definitely good, I'm a nerd for this type of stuff.Speaker 2:
So yeah, man, what's up with that? I love Haiti, bro. So what we see nowadays is the downfall of Haiti. We see right now there's civil war going on and it is bad, and but there's again. You have to understand why did it get there? Because if you all look up Haiti, haiti was once considered the richest country on this earth. I'm gonna repeat that the richest country on this earth is in the Caribbean and Haiti is on the same island as the Dominican Republic. Now, wait a minute, if we going to put the canals and all these places in the Dominican Republic, all these resorts which I've been to, and they're on the same island, separated basically by a big old fence and wall, and one side was owned you can say that by the French, another by the Dutch, and they drew a line between that same island out of the same beaches or in Haiti that you see in the Dominican Republic, the same. I mean, it was so much gold, jewels like this was a gem you are in. Christopher Columbus first. His first stop in the Caribbean was in the Dominican Republic, on that island, and they have statues of Christopher Columbus over there, but again, he was just a slave owner and lost and didn't know where the hell he was going. So I ain't giving him no credit whatsoever. But Haiti was under French rule and they were bringing slaves over there because they saw the land and them people couldn't handle that tropical climate If you know, haiti is hot down in the Caribbean. They couldn't handle the temperature, the heat, so they brought slaves, and these slaves happened to be soldiers that were conquered in the Congo, which is in Africa, and these soldiers were brought to this island to be slaves. Now they kept bringing them over because they were getting so much money and so much riches from Haiti that what they didn't realize is that these were not just regular slaves, these were soldiers. And these soldiers came together and said it got to the point to where the slaves were 10 to one. Think of that number. You got 10 to one slaves and they working, these slaves and these people are keeping you under your thumb, and you outnumbered them 10 to one. So Haiti revolted in 1807. And they revolted and they abolished slavery. The only country on this earth that fully abolished slavery is Haiti. They conquered France and they tried to come back and they conquered them again. Do your research on Haiti? And Haiti became the first black republic on this earth, even before Africa. They were the first official black republic on this earth, completely black, and the government was black. Everything was black in Haiti and it started out by them being slaves. The US came and snatched gold with the Marines. They assembled on Haiti and they did all these different things and Haiti's number one crop was coffee and sugar. They still have that mountain, they still have all this fruitful soil and everything right now, but they're literally being choked out through racism. France was about to bomb them again and they settled with France on I believe it was $18 billion that they would have to pay the French back to prevent them from bombing on them. They borrowed that money from countries like the United States and English, who trumped it up and put a tax on that. Now they've been forever indebted to these other countries and that's why the people revolted against that and said listen, man, I ain't finna, keep doing it. We ain't even buying by that. Now it puts so many sanctions on Haiti with trade and different things like that, to where the first country to really show black power and black history is Haiti. If you look at it right now, it's horrible, but they still have beautiful beaches. They still have that white sand untapped. I was telling my wife I want to buy some land over there, but right now they don't even have a government, so everything is risked. People are told not to even go over there. It's called the dangerous port of Prince. The capital is considered the dangerous city on earth right now. Wow, that's where it all started. You all these was in the 1400s, when they brought folks over here Again. They don't want you to know that history. Why? Because, guess what? You might get mad. Remember how they got mad and they went through the Roman Crusades after we let them up out of those mountains and taught them how to hygiene themselves and taught them how to stand up straight Some of them still. Have you ever seen that commercial about the caveman?Speaker 1:
I've seen some people that really look like that. They're not far from that. They're not that many generations from that. All of a sudden you think Jesus looked like one of y'all. Come on, man, stop playing with me.Speaker 1:
Yeah, and on that note in the book of Revelation. If they wanted to hide it they could have taken it out. But in the book of Revelation it describes how Jesus looked A hair white like a wall, feet burnt like brass waist like a thundering thunder. So those are all implications that he was a brother.Speaker 2:
But guess what? Let me say this, dimitri, on that note, what do we say now, even as black folks? It makes me sick and my wife, she, can't stand it. What we say you got a nappy head. You ain't got good hair unless you're her thing. That means you got good hair because you're her thing. Come on now. Yeah, that means if your hair is hard and thick, that means you got tight curls, that means you have healthy hair. But we in a society where they don't want your representation to be there, because that's how Jesus hair was you don't feel wool, wool, thick as hell.Speaker 1:
Yep, exactly, yeah, man. And one thing that also came to my mind as we come to a close man, of why they want to hide our history. Man is, everything that you really describe, man, and our history exemplifies is that we are conquerors, bro. We are. We've always overcame any situation, man, like whether it be the worst of the worst, or whatever the case is, man, we've always been the people that have survived and they use us to build up everything. So, you know, they try to flip the script and make it seem like we were in a server to our entire existence, to everybody else, but the fact is that that's not true, simply by the example that you, you know, share it with Haiti. So, yeah, they don't want us to see what we can go back to because we've been so far removed from our nature, from our natural state, into who we are today, pacified with convenience and the luxuries of the Western society. You know, we've become detached from who God made us to be, so conquerors and the builders of this entire existence that we see today.Speaker 2:
So, yeah, and guess what, bro? They do it from birth. You know how, through the school system, have you ever heard of anything before slavery, about the history of black people? Unless you see an African with flies on them with a big old belly? Yeah, like that's what they teach us. And you know, the most impressionable state is between the ages. He wrote a seven, and that's what they teach us is he wrote a seven and it stays stuck in our mind to where. Now we regurgitate that and we're programmed to believe that. So now is you need to be grateful for anything them people give you. You are ungrateful, so, and so how you? What? Yeah, what you mean, man, look, yeah, nah, we are greatness. They know it and they're afraid of that. Even if they triple us, they still, man, I've been in the fights. If it's only three of them, I think I'm gonna win. We, that great of warriors. Look at every sport, everything we do, do we not excel in it? And they know that. But the issue is do we know it? Do we believe it? So let me, okay, now we can whip them with chains and put chains on them and whip them. So now let's distract the shit out of them with whips and chains, with whips and chains that we that's necklaces and cars. We call them whips and chains. So it's the same thing, it's the same distraction, man, and they wonder why it's difficult for us to build legacy wealth. But here's what I'm gonna say real quick and I know I'm going a little long. But it's one thing to break a generational curse you, brother Demetri, have broken generational curses, I've broken generational curses. But here's where we lack is creating generational patterns. So it's one thing to rebel against the curse. It's one thing to say, nope, I'm bucking that, I'm rebelling against that and that's amazing. But now we create new generational patterns and we have to teach this to our children before the age of seven, because after that it becomes very difficult. And that's why you, having a young king, a young prince that your wife just had, this is the most critical time to teach that young youngster who he is and who he can be, because we are literally deities walking on this earth. The Bible says that. All biblical things say that we are deities walking on this earth. Or we can say we are 100 years, we 200 years out of slavery and we just now getting our rights back and we fall hard and we have dreams, and I have a dream, and we can keep on with that narrative and keep on regurgitating that bull crap, or we can take it to the next level, and that's what we're here to do at the WTF and say, all right, we get what happened in the 30s, 40s and 50s and we get this, we get that. But now what's happening now? Cause we don't have no excuses. Man, there are no excuses Now. The man got his foot. Come on y'all. How many millionaires and billionaires is black right now? I mean, we're in the information as you look at Africa, look at all these different countries that are doing great. No longer are we being indoctrinated with this racist bull crap. Unless you wanna believe it and if you do, hey, I wish you well.Speaker 1:
Hey and wish you well. We will do. It's been a great WTF Live Wednesday. I'm not even trying to follow up behind that man. We're gonna continue this conversation next Wednesday, wherever it may lead is gonna be some heat, I already know. But thank y'all for joining Live. Thank y'all for joining on the replay. We appreciate y'all's comments and feedback and we appreciate y'all visiting our website, wtfmacom, and keep an eye out for our podcast. Like I say, it's gonna be an extended version of our lives, with some special guests sprinkled in there, and we definitely do appreciate y'all and always remember WTF not only means what's the formula, but it also means winning takes focus, and that's our mantra for all of our mentees and our academy. All right, so until next Wednesday, stay focused and keep winning.Speaker 2:
Yeah, peace y'all.