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Dodgeball Drama and Disappearances at Sea
Allison recounts her first dodgeball injury to the face while Alex shares tsunami warning confusion during their eventful week. We dive deep into true crime, reality TV drama, and cruise ship dangers.
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Allison Florea
Alex Hinsky
Are you recording?
Speaker 2:Yes.
Speaker 1:Hey everyone, welcome back. Stop now, my eyes are red because I've been crying, but everything's okay and we will persevere. Yes, and we have a limited time to record, so there's no time to wait for the eyes to go down.
Speaker 2:And if you're listening, you would have never known.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but I'm transparent, you know?
Speaker 2:Yeah, I love that that's good, you should.
Speaker 1:Emotions are real.
Speaker 2:Everyone has them.
Speaker 1:And if you need to cry, then, girl, do your thing.
Speaker 2:Do your thing.
Speaker 1:And that's a good segue into crying because last night I got hit in the face for the first time.
Speaker 2:With a ball, a dodgeball.
Speaker 1:And let me tell you, the person who hit me was probably the hardest throwing. There was two really hard throwing people on this team and it was one of those two like I don't know who's you know velocity wise, speed gun wise, who really has the harder throw.
Speaker 1:But, like of the, there are two people like. One of them is the one who hit me square in the nose and I immediately was like my nose is going to be broken. What do I do Like? At least like I can still dance with a broken nose, but I would be ugly, okay, anyway.
Speaker 2:Did you fall to the ground?
Speaker 1:No, I just like kind of walked, turned my back and walked a few steps and just kind of like into a corner and just like checked myself, oh my.
Speaker 2:God, I'm so sorry.
Speaker 1:No, I didn't hear him say a word so he could have yelled it across the thing, did not, but like he didn't afterwards. But you didn't hear him say a word so he could have yelled it across the thing, did not, but like he didn't afterwards. But you didn't get out no, right, because he got out okay, yeah because it was crazy.
Speaker 1:Yeah, like sometimes obviously people have gotten hit square in the face many times, but I feel like the like percentage is that's a little bit lower than like side of the head top and if someone like me throws the ball, it's like oh, it might stun you, but it's not like injuring you correct but because these people throw so freaking hard? Because they play for team usa. Yeah, and here I am, just a little girl playing on the team just a girl I just had to check myself and be like is my nose okay?
Speaker 1:are my teeth okay? But like my face was numb allison that sucks and then everyone coming up to me, checking on me is what made me cry, because you know what, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2:Like it was just like it's like when a baby falls and it would be fine, except the parents go.
Speaker 1:Oh my god, are you okay? Yeah, because I didn't start crying until people started coming up like running up to check on me and like the ref was like are you okay? And I was like yeah, and they were like do you need to go out? Like we'll swap someone in for you, and like I probably could have said yes, that probably would have been better for the team. Maybe someone could have beat them, yeah, but I was like no, like no, I'm fine, I got it. Such drama.
Speaker 1:I wish it was me and another person. It was like two on two basically. Oh and of course they were like not trying to throw it to me at me at first, because like they weren't being that mean Okay, but then they eventually got me out, but they, like I, I deflected some for a minute you did your Allison spin. And then all my team were like we're going after him now.
Speaker 2:Did you guys win overall?
Speaker 1:No, we lost so many games, oh God. Okay, they were like the two people we played. The last two were like, probably the top two of the league.
Speaker 2:Oh, okay. So, Is the season over yet.
Speaker 1:No, we have one more regular game, right? No, I think this was the last regular. And then we have playoffs, because we're one week behind on the other one, I think so we have one more regular season after this next week and then playoff, so I think it's just like one behind, okay, oh my gosh my god speaking of. I asked a Alex if he wanted to sub tonight and he said absolutely not.
Speaker 2:I did. After I sent that I was like that's a little dramatic. I didn't need to say it like that.
Speaker 1:Well, I only thought you might because, like, you're going to play on neighbor day. So I was like, oh, maybe you want like a little like refresher before and we needed people and absolutely not absolutely not, you might for the other league probably I'd rather yeah with like nick and yeah, anyway, that is what happened. I got my first face shot and actually kind of still hurts my nose like a little today. It's not. It's not like injured, it's just like a little sore.
Speaker 1:Yeah at least it didn't bleed no, I was also thinking that, because I I think, because I was crying. I just had a little snot and I felt a little moisture.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah. So you worry about that.
Speaker 1:You do this thing and I was like yeah, you're just like yeah, one person, so another person on our team hit someone else's face on our team and that person did come over and say he was sorry to them and as he walked by me, he like grabbed my shoulders. Um, well, that's nice, but he's not the one that hit me.
Speaker 1:Well, screw that guy but you know what, I didn't give up and I finished the game good for you, like a true. And then there was another time where I was like the last person and I was like you guys, I can't handle it yeah just and luckily I got out, because I threw it and one of them caught it and I was like thank you, because I could not have handled one of them hitting me.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Please do not do that.
Speaker 2:No.
Speaker 1:Anyway, that was my last night. How was your last night?
Speaker 2:Let's do our intro.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, Welcome back to the A-List Podcast with Allison and Alex. I'm Allison, he's Alex. You know the deal.
Speaker 2:You know how it goes my night was far less dramatic.
Speaker 1:That's good.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's a busy week at buzzfeed, um and I. Last night I went to the gym and while I was there, I was then all of a sudden, out of nowhere, bombarded with text messages from so many people in the midwest hey, are you safe?
Speaker 1:oh same same. Are you safe from?
Speaker 1:tsunami alexander and I read that you have any idea not a clue none of the tvs in the gym were playing it and when I read that I looked up at my guns and I was like tsunami alexander is right here that's a good name yeah yeah, I got a text from my mom and she was like oh, like you guys had to deal with first you had to deal with fires and now tsunamis and I just said huh yeah, I was like had not a single idea, like nothing was being about. I got no alerts on my weather app. I'm not on Twitter, so like that's I feel like where people, mostly I didn't see anything on TikTok the hour before I was at the gym.
Speaker 1:Just my mom very scared, Heather I was like we are on the other side of a very big mountain.
Speaker 2:It would have to be like a I'm in a deep valley, yeah, big mountain.
Speaker 1:it would have to be like a valley, yeah, like it would honestly have to be like one of those like the world ending, yeah, tsunamis for it to get over the mountain test. Spoiler alert it didn't even hit hawaii no, and the ones that hit, like northern california, that were like was that one place? You at mendocino?
Speaker 1:yeah they were like four feet yeah, they were very small which I'm sure if you had a house like right on the water like maybe it would do some damage or like flood a little bit, but it wasn't, like you know, movie worthy well, I was like everyone freaking out and I was researching that.
Speaker 2:Like a lot of times, they lose a lot of momentum at sea yeah, it's a far.
Speaker 1:it's's Russia's, it's far, actually, is it? Because have you ever looked at the map and then been like whoa? It's actually closer than I thought.
Speaker 2:No, never. You know, I don't know geography I'm going to show you? I don't know geography at all, but I was a little like mom. Why are you worried about me?
Speaker 1:It is nice for people to be worried. Yeah, I guess.
Speaker 2:But it's like LA, just we never, no one ever, freaks out here about anything. When the fires were here, it wasn't until they were. You know what I mean.
Speaker 1:Yeah Well, technically okay, so this is Russia and this is Alaska. So like technically, it is really close to Alaska. Oh yeah, that's actually pretty wild.
Speaker 1:I had no idea but to oh no, I'm clicking things to, I guess which, also, like alaska, wasn't the issue, so it must have been going the momentum with the other yeah, I suppose I guess, since the earth is flat that does make sense that it would come out of imagine, obviously like to, obviously like to Washington, like it's pretty far, but like, since Alaska is part of the United States, like it is not, I wonder like how far it takes by boat.
Speaker 2:I wonder how far it takes by boat. How?
Speaker 1:long it takes by boat.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Anyway, that was I guess scary.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:It would have been scary. Heard people in hawaii recording. I saw some videos and like the sirens that were going off would be alarming it would be and if you were vacationing there and you don't like know what to do because you know, say you're from oklahoma yeah, right you've never had to deal with a tsunami. Tsunami.
Speaker 2:What.
Speaker 1:Isn't that what?
Speaker 2:she says in White Lotus Piper no Tsunami.
Speaker 1:I can't say it like her.
Speaker 2:Tsunami.
Speaker 1:Tsunami.
Speaker 2:There you go.
Speaker 1:That was, it Was that right, I had a chocolate chip cookie last night Tell me where and it was from McDonald's, because I had a snack wrap.
Speaker 2:Did you get the one chocolate chip cookie or did you get the three pack? I?
Speaker 1:only got one.
Speaker 2:Allison.
Speaker 1:I know, because it was. It was kind of me being bad. I was like trying.
Speaker 2:Sure, okay, good I mean the snack wrap.
Speaker 1:Getting McDonald's at all isn't great, but I was like I had had, like I had eaten really. Oh, I did have sadness, it was, I don't know. I got hit in the face and I said I'm getting a snack wrap. I mean you deserve it. I started crying, um and it was good. But yeah, I only got one. I wasn't trying to be too overzealous, you know.
Speaker 2:Good for you Practicing self-control.
Speaker 1:I'd have. Well, you can do that, I will. You have a better metabolism. What else did?
Speaker 2:you do. Well, that was it. My week's just been very busy with work and it's Wednesday for those of you listening. It's Wednesday for those of you listening, I don't know. Repeating repeating. Yeah, we have just a lot of shoots this week, but a lot of fun stuff happening, so we'll see, and tomorrow we're hanging out.
Speaker 1:We're having a friend hang. Yeah, I was going to ask a work. I don't know if you can disclose this, but one of the things I wanted to talk about was how cute Pamela Anderson and Liam Neeson are, and I wanted to know if they came into Buzzfeed.
Speaker 2:They did not come into Buzzfeed, I know that would have been cute. Have you seen them naked?
Speaker 1:No, yes, they're in that movie together. And then now they have come out like stepped out on the carpet like cuddling and kissing and stuff and are they together? Yes.
Speaker 2:I did not know that and they're so cute, I kind of love that.
Speaker 1:Such an age appropriate couple, couple. Yeah, she's like so natural and not wearing makeup and he's like so badass. Just, I don't know him in real life, like maybe he can't do any of the thing he does, things he does in his he must have some riz.
Speaker 1:It's pamela anderson true and like but just think of him on the phone with her. If I, if I was dating him, I'd be like say it yeah, just say it, just say it and I would make him say the line from taken yeah although he's not the one that says good luck, that's the other guy that says it, but I would make him say good luck says I will find you and I will kill you yeah is he scottish, irish?
Speaker 2:irish or scottish and I'm glad he's found love after natasha I know that's so sad. He hasn't been with anyone since not like, not that note of note that was so sudden that I'm sure it would have taken a long time.
Speaker 1:Were they together? Was he on the trip also?
Speaker 2:He was on the trip.
Speaker 1:Did she die instantly?
Speaker 2:No.
Speaker 1:Did he have to like pull the plug or?
Speaker 2:anything, I don't know. I think there was a brain dead time to pull the plug situation. Remind me, is she the one in? Parent trap, parent trap yeah, yes, we love, we stand well anyway, they're cute, that is cute. So I'm excited tomorrow because boyfriend has not met sass or ang and he's not really spent time with you.
Speaker 1:He's just said hey from upstairs while we do the podcast and just listen to us. Yeah, has he said that we sound stupid at all?
Speaker 2:no, he listens. He's such a supportive boy.
Speaker 1:That is so nice Hi.
Speaker 2:Hey Bob.
Speaker 1:No, I don't think, I don't, don't assume he would have said that, but no he's the kindest person I've ever met. I think that that's my um.
Speaker 2:I think that that's my fear, is they? Yeah, well, what are they doing? You gotta lean into the cringe sometimes, but no, he actually is just like so I don't get it.
Speaker 1:Wait what you're also so nice, what do you mean?
Speaker 2:he's so supportive and loving and so are you sure, but like usually, it's only one-sided and that's someone's suffering in this case someone must someone must be sacrificing.
Speaker 1:A few things I have written down. Okay, I don't know why I said that Okay.
Speaker 2:Okay, let's get to business.
Speaker 1:I know that you're not as tapped in, but there is major Love Island drama.
Speaker 2:Oh, I'm very tapped in because I interviewed these people on the red carpet Remember.
Speaker 1:You interviewed the Beyond the Villa.
Speaker 2:No.
Speaker 1:You interviewed the new cast. No.
Speaker 2:I interviewed Is the drama about the current season.
Speaker 1:No, the drama is about the Beyond the Villa.
Speaker 2:What's Beyond the Villa?
Speaker 1:That was. You interviewed Serena and Cordell, didn't you?
Speaker 2:No, oh, corey and Nope.
Speaker 1:No.
Speaker 2:Janae and Janae and Kenny Kenny. That's the drama. Oh Nope.
Speaker 1:No, janae, and Janae and Kenny Kenny. That's the drama.
Speaker 2:Oh them, yeah, You're tapped into right now.
Speaker 1:What's happening right now?
Speaker 2:How they broke up, and she posted on her Instagram story like no, I've seen the theories. You guys are not even close.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so if you guys aren't tapped in, yeah, so Janae and Kenny are from last season of love Island and they have been dating for the past year. The new show beyond the villa that just came out that is following, a few of the cast members from last season include Janae and Kenny.
Speaker 2:I thought beyond the villa was like RuPaul's drag race all stars untucked. Like it was, like it's, like another episode.
Speaker 1:No, it's like specifically because people love last season.
Speaker 2:So much Bachelor in paradise.
Speaker 1:It's not a reality, it's not a competition, they're just literally. It's a reality show of them, just like living in LA and following them around doing stuff because people love them so much last season that there's like a handful of them that are like oh, we're in, we're gonna stay in la for the summer, and they just have cameras on them well, I might enjoy that it's kind of it's like florida short oh no, they're.
Speaker 1:I don't think they're cut out for this, except for there's a couple which are the people that we want to see, which is leah and miguel, serena and cordell. Okay, they the, I think, the most like normal on camera.
Speaker 2:Leah and Miguel, Serena and Cordell.
Speaker 1:Janae and Kenny, you could tell there was trouble.
Speaker 2:Really.
Speaker 1:And then Kayler is just has been crying every episode.
Speaker 2:Sorry, their name is Kayler.
Speaker 1:Kayler.
Speaker 2:Kayler. So yeah, it's a girl, yeah, okay.
Speaker 1:She is crying every episode already. Oh, kyler, because Aaron, the guy she was with in the villa, he's also just being all his filming. No one wants to really film with him, so he's just being depressed in Venice just like walking around, okay, and she's crying because of boys and because her other best friend from the show like lied to her about something, I don't know. It's like not real okay problems, but I've they have like three episodes out, okay, you can tell on the show that kenny is like not as in it as janae is okay he doesn't want to live with her, so they are in apartments next to each other in this apartment building that they got them for the show, I'm guessing, because they want.
Speaker 1:He lives in texas, she lives in vegas, I think so it's just for the summer they got these apartments and he didn't want to live with her, so they're living next to each other and she's like I want to live with you and he's like I don't want to move in, and so it's just been like not good. Yeah, so yesterday they went, or not? Yesterday, over the weekend they went to, of course, david Dobrik's David Dobrik's birthday party, of course, and it was like this big thing and something happened at the party, because there's like you can see them dancing and it looks like they're having fun together. And then that night, after the party, she unfollowed him. She removed all the pictures on her Instagram from him.
Speaker 2:This is on the show.
Speaker 1:No, no, no. This is like real life, Just like people.
Speaker 2:Oh sorry, they went to David Dobrik's, not on the show.
Speaker 1:No, like literally this weekend.
Speaker 2:Oh, oh, oh, yeah, oh, I'm with you.
Speaker 1:Okay, in real life this weekend, not on the show, cause I think they filmed like three months ago or something, I don't know.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 1:And in the night she unfollowed him, removed him. Everyone unfollowed him, like every cast member, except for like one, because I don't think he knew what was going on. And now he has since unfollowed, but like even all the guys unfollowed him. So everyone was like, oh my god, it had to be really bad if all the guys because normally guys don't care, they're like I'm not unfollowing, for they all, everyone unfollowed him. So the rumors were like he obviously cheated, um, but even then, I don't see bros being like I know.
Speaker 1:Then some stuff was coming out like did he say racist things? Because, like what could be so bad that the guys would unfollow him? And and I think so. Then Janae put on her story. She was like I've seen the theories and like what he did is beyond, is worse than what you guys are saying. She could be at the height of drama because she's feeling a lot of things at the height of drama because she's feeling a lot of things.
Speaker 1:I guess, like the only thing you go to from that is like physical abuse and it's like, would you, I don't know, like if you just cheating racist? What's above that? Underage stuff yeah, like a abuse, and then I guess above that is underage stuff. That would be the hierarchy right.
Speaker 2:Yeah because, even if it was like I saw him fucking a man. I'd be like do your thing, it's not okay that he cheated.
Speaker 1:No it's not okay that he cheated, but like that wouldn't be like it's worse, it wouldn't be that Right.
Speaker 1:So as of now, like we haven't gotten confirmation on what happened, but like all the other girls had put stuff on their stories calling him a clout chaser and a horrible person. Like Leah posted something, serena put something, kayla put something. So like everyone was like we are on Janae's side. You're, we knew from the start you were a bad person. We were just like supporting her. Like it, everyone is dogging him and he put out like this, like um did he put out a statement.
Speaker 1:He put out a statement, a statement on his instagram that was just like. Janae and I are no longer together. I like I cared for her so much. I have the utmost respect, like that type of thing. And then she took, she screenshotted it, reposted it. She was like you're a liar, this is lame, Like so it does.
Speaker 2:I don't feel like it's abuse. I feel like I feel like if it was abuse.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I, I agree, and some of the people let me see if there's anything that has come out since. So sorry, so Janae's like other bestie, like not from the show posted something and said my advice for women in relationships. If you have access to your man's phone today, search keywords like I don't like black women. I thought I would get more money from this. I'm faking this relationship. Going on the show would be for clout. I can't wait to be done with this so I can F hella, b words and yeah. So I think that that's kind of like pretty much confirmation that all of those things are things that he did or said, which is disgusting.
Speaker 1:Uh abuse and racism yeah, just like wow I mean, um, maybe not physical abuse, but emotional abuse yeah language abuse yeah, so like I support all them getting him out of their lives, like that's insane, but wow wild that is wild that's the drama.
Speaker 2:Never a dull moment with love island no, literally damn.
Speaker 1:And then some people are like this is for the show and I'm like that's crazy, because if it is that's like so much, yeah, so much to do. And if it's, if it is like that's like so much, so much to do, and if it's, if it is like that's like kind of diabolical to make it that like just like cheat, just like say he cheated. You don't need to do all that. And I mean, if it's not, it's obviously real and then that's sad, right, but she's beautiful and she deserves better.
Speaker 2:So she's, she's gorgeous on to the next and incredible breasts yeah, her nose.
Speaker 1:I know that she got a nose job, but it's really cute, it's cute, it's perfect.
Speaker 2:Yeah, kind of looks like yours I actually really like my nose.
Speaker 1:I was just talking about that. Um, I like my nose and I have no, no notes, no notes. I'm just saying I don't. I've never thought about getting a nose job, like that's the one thing that I haven't wanted to do.
Speaker 2:Hell yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, what else is drama Today's? Just about the drama.
Speaker 2:Weather drama. That was what. That's really what's going on this week.
Speaker 1:Well, we didn't get to talk about this. I know it's a little dated, but we didn't talk about Gwyneth Paltrow doing the video for. Astronomer which is the? Uh, the company that the CEO that got caught cheating at the Coldplay concert, Um, that's the company that he's now since resigned from, and their social media team hired Gwyneth Paltrow to make a little video just like explaining what the company is, because no one knew yeah and it's just like a little I don't know 20 second thing of her being.
Speaker 1:Like a lot of you guys are wondering about what astronomer does and like this is what we do and there's just a few little funny quips in there and I thought it was a pretty genius thing for them to do especially gwyneth yeah, tie to cold play funny things because, like they're like we didn't do anything wrong. Yeah, like we're good over here.
Speaker 1:He's gone. So if you guys like we have a lot of traffic, like looking us up, we should tell you what we do, and then yeah, my whole business yeah, pretty cheeky that is pretty cheeky is there bad blood between Gwyneth and no, they're like, they're good, right, they co-parent and they spent holidays with my girl. Dakota. No, yeah, he's with.
Speaker 2:Dakota Johnson. No, chris.
Speaker 1:Martin, yeah, he's with Dakota Johnson.
Speaker 2:No.
Speaker 1:Chris Martin yeah, he's with Dakota.
Speaker 2:Not anymore.
Speaker 1:I thought that they like debunked that and they were like she was like I'm here.
Speaker 2:Is this? Is this was it? Was it? I'm short circuiting.
Speaker 1:No.
Speaker 2:I'm pretty sure they are not together. Oh God, here we go Making, it doesn't matter.
Speaker 1:I'm not going to look it up. But I disagree that. I knew that there was Copy, that there was rumors, but then they were like seen together again, okay, good. So I guess we won't know, until it comes out of either one of their mouths.
Speaker 2:Yeah, one of their mouths.
Speaker 1:But I do know that there was like rumors about it, okay, but Okay. That's we disagree.
Speaker 2:We disagree, and that's okay.
Speaker 1:But I thought that was funny and we hadn't talked about that. Another funny thing that I saw I was just going through the headlines today, cause I feel like, since last time we didn't talk headlines, I was really like on it. So there was a WNBA game and I oh, stay with me, I'm with you.
Speaker 2:I'm here.
Speaker 1:Someone threw an adult toy on the court and it was drama.
Speaker 2:What's what kind of adult toy Like a dildo? Yeah.
Speaker 1:Okay, so the I was just looking through these titles and I this is the headline that caught my eye. Wnba game halted after sex toy flies onto court. What a headline. Just like that would not happen at an. Also like how? Like when they came in through the metal detectors and they looked in their purses, no one was like hey, what's up, what's going on in here?
Speaker 2:what? What does it look like?
Speaker 1:it's neon green. Oh yeah, it was the Atlanta Dream against the Golden State Valkyries, and as the final seconds wound down and the teams fought for the win on Tuesday, the broadcast showed a green object being thrown onto the court.
Speaker 2:I mean, I guess, if it was rubber.
Speaker 1:It was definitely rubber, it bounced. Yeah, the video isn't that like satisfying because it's like kind of far away, but you can definitely see an, a lime green thing, just kind of like bounce out of random. It's so. So someone like really thought about this, cause they waited until the end, yeah, but, um, the players were kind of laughing and then the announcers were like there's, this is bad, get them out of here.
Speaker 1:which like yeah you can't do that, and they did escort them out, but I just thought it was funny that is so funny um, that, and then, oh, I watched. Amy radley is missing. I'm caught up. Let's talk okay.
Speaker 2:Oh, you're caught up, okay, great done with it okay, so here's the interesting thing about okay for those of you guys so I've been fascinated with this missing persons case, actually um, for a long time.
Speaker 2:Amy bradley was on a cruise ship and then disappeared, and her family has spent years and so much money trying to find her. Um the story, or like the, the mini series that I first discovered it was on like a podcast mini series. The craziest thing about the docu series is something they never have talked about before is the fact that she was a lesbian yeah, well, I didn't know this story before, so never have talked about that before it wasn't ever relevant to the story. It's not really I would say it's.
Speaker 1:It adds another layer of like heart that it does, but the way this woman talks about missing her and how she's like I know, but both ex-girlfriends were sad to me, both the one with the message in a bottle you can get to that later. But it's not really relevant to her like be going missing, except for the kind of does with the one x, because she could have been a little depressed right but also they patched it up before I I'm getting ahead of myself.
Speaker 2:Sorry, yeah, yeah. So she goes on this cruise with her family. One night she goes missing Security footage whatever they like, they're docked the next day, they port the next day.
Speaker 1:They were very close to the port when she went missing. It was like 530 in the morning is like the time frame of when her dad kind of woke up, saw her sitting on the lounge chair on the balcony, and then he woke up again at like six and then she wasn't there anymore. Yes, and they were coming into the dock at that time. So it was like not, they were not open sea, like probably a couple of miles, but like it wasn't, they weren't docked yet and they weren't in open sea.
Speaker 2:And the theories are wide.
Speaker 1:There are many theories.
Speaker 2:I will say the one that I think about the most. That I feel like is most likely is I do think she was trafficked especially based on the fact that so many people have seen her over the years. Yeah, and like, Just so you guys know. Back at home, her family created a website and the website you know, featured like family photos and, and they can. You can trace an IP address for someone visiting your site now because and there is a regular visits from a IP address in Barbados.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:And.
Speaker 1:And staying for a long time.
Speaker 2:For a long time and more specifically around the holidays and significant birthdays and significant dates. So the theory is like is it her like checking in to see?
Speaker 1:Who else would it be Like? Why would her captors do that?
Speaker 2:Correct and because of I don't know international law, they can't get permission to pinpoint the IP.
Speaker 1:But if it were happening in the?
Speaker 2:US, they could literally pinpoint it. Yeah, something they can't get permission to pinpoint the ip, but if it were happening in the us, they could literally pinpoint it yeah, something they didn't okay.
Speaker 1:So like, let's rewind a little bit. So the kind of timeline of the night is they went to dinner and something to note is that the her family kept noticing like staff members being like super, only attentive to her and like and like talking about how beautiful she was and really just like focusing on her, and they would be like, oh well, if I need a drink, I guess I have to ask amy to order it for me. Whatever, to the point where they were like really noticing it yeah so that was like one thing.
Speaker 1:They went to dinner. It was the night on the cruise where everyone like gets like super dressed up and like takes photos and stuff like that.
Speaker 1:So she was wearing this like beautiful gown, and then her and her brother change and they go to the club yeah at the on the cruise ship, kind of on the top deck, and they're there, they're drinking a little bit, not like crazy, not wasty pants, like really. They're just drinking beers, which, yeah, it's a lot of beers, I think. I think they said the bar tab said that she had like seven beers over a course from like 6 pm to whenever it closed. Yeah, which isn't that much, I guess. Um, so the brother said I'm going to go back to the room she has been dancing with, like other people, but mostly with this guy who works for the cruise line. He is the bass player for the band, yes, but he's also, I guess, dancing.
Speaker 1:Maybe at some point the DJ comes on, yeah, but he's also dancing with her a lot, which kind of is significant because she doesn't like men so it's like was she being forced to dance with him or was she just kind of like oh, I'll dance with whoever like, I'm just having fun, that's what I think that's.
Speaker 1:We don't know that, but that part. So the brother's like hey gestures to her, hey, her, hey, I'm going to leave. He goes back to the room, he says that she comes back very quickly after him and they go on the patio, outside their balcony, and they chat for a little bit, they smoke some cigs it was the 90s and he goes to bed and she says she's going to stay out on the balcony for a little bit. He was, like he noted, little tipsy but not wasted.
Speaker 2:Like she didn't go overboard.
Speaker 1:Yes, well, they also said if she had gone overboard, because when they docked they got the authorities of where were they? Were they Barbados? They got the authorities and they sent a search party out and they based on the trajectory of the water and everything they were like even if she got attacked by a shark or something, we would have something wash ashore Like a arm, a leg, clothing, a shoe, like some things I guess would have sunk, but like bodies don't sink until like they are like waterlogged and decomposed and stuff like that, and it was.
Speaker 1:I mean it just like because of how close they were to the shore, like something would have come up on the shore. So they ruled they kind of ruled that out, but it's still. There are people on the ship that think that she either jumped or fell, but they have timestamps for when they entered the room because of the key card, but they don't have timestamps for leaving, which does put a wrench in it, cause they're like we know that she came back at three 30 in the morning and she was there until five 30 when her dad saw her sitting on the chair out front, um, but then when he woke up at 6am she wasn't there but her shirt was, so she had changed shirts or took off the shirt that she was wearing, yeah, and then she was no longer there. So the dad gets up and he goes to walk around to get a coffee and he's like, oh, I'll probably see her, I'll find her up there.
Speaker 1:He doesn't find her, comes back, they start freaking out and they go to the uh head of something and they're like, hey, can you make an announcement, uh, for her to come back to the room and they're like it's 7 am. We're not gonna wake up the whole boat because you can't find your 23 year old daughter. Yeah, if it was like a six-year-old maybe they would have, or like a small child. But this is. They're like we're not waking everyone up. We'll do it. Once it's in a more appropriate time, you guys can go search more. So the family was not happy with how that was going. They said they thought that they were kind of rude to them and also the staff kind of felt like they were rude to them. So it was a high intensity situation.
Speaker 1:And then, yeah, they do the search of the water, no water, and then skip skipping forward. Um, a couple of years go by, and then the show they have now people saying they spot her places. She has a very distinctive tattoo of the Tasmanian devil, which is so nineties to do. So nineties and so gay. But, um, there's like a man who says he spotted her in. Was it Barbados? There was, like there's a couple of countries that I guess she was in between. Yeah, I forget what's Curacao.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah.
Speaker 1:Curacao is where this man said that he saw her and she kind of came up to him and then a man who he identified as the bass player kind of just stared at him for a long time and then pulled her and walked away and so the guy was like that was a weird interaction and I never forgot it and I saw her tattoo and when it came up on the news I knew 100% that that was her. That happened. There's a lady in Barbados, like seven years later or something, that was in a bathroom and heard a argument with someone and then she comes out and they're washing their hands and the girls, the lady's trying to talk to her and she says her name is Amy and so and I feel like there's one more person that spotted her, oh yeah, so, and I feel like there's one more person that spotted her, oh yeah, there's a random like Navy guy that went to a bar like deep in the city of Barbados and he wasn't supposed to be there and when he got, when he sat down, two girls sat down to talk with him. One got up to go to the bar and then Amy was like basically told him that she's being held captive and her name and everything, and he didn't report it because he would have gotten in trouble for going to the bar, which is cause he was like I'm good, I was about to get out the next year or something and I would have not gotten as much retirement money.
Speaker 1:So I just like he was like I've been around where like prostitutes come up to you and they say crazy things, and he was like, honestly, at the time I didn't think anything of it. Like I thought it was just like another prostitute, just like trying to get me to give them money or whatever. And then when he started seeing the news he was like that was definitely her. She said her name was amy. So it's still an open case today. Am I missing anything?
Speaker 2:The parents paid this ex Navy SEAL to. Yeah, I don't even think this was.
Speaker 1:I don't think that was on the show.
Speaker 2:No parents put paid a ton of money to this guy. That was like I'm an ex Navy SEAL, I got a team, I will go in there, I will find her, we'll extract her.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah. My question was if they have this ip, why aren't they going there?
Speaker 2:so they hired this guy. Okay, he went over the course of a year he kept sending back photos, evidence, proof, taking so much money from them yeah, taking so much money no way only to find out that he had been scamming them hiring an actress. He put a fake tattoo on her yeah, I was like why did they leave this out of the documentary?
Speaker 1:this was crazy I wonder if they're in a current legal thing with him very well could be yeah, that's so sad I believe.
Speaker 2:And then there's the people that are like well, if it's her, why isn't she finding a way to contact them? Here's the thing when you are in the sex trafficking trade, a lot of times most of the time, I would say they get you addicted to drugs so that you are stuck there.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:And so I think what probably happened the theory that I believe is the most believable is that they got her drugged or something on the boat. They put her in like one of the trash bins that they take off the boat. They snuck her off that way, and then she was sold into sex traffic I do.
Speaker 1:I did forget that there is another sighting on the boat of her, these two girls who were also in the bar oh, yeah, yeah they, they leave and they're like they're not ready for bed either because they're young girls and they go to watch the sunrise on the top deck. And she said they, you know how in cruise ships there's the like glass elevators that go up in the middle. She said she looked over and she recognized that it was Amy. Apparently, all these people like just knew her because she was so outgoing on the boat that she had a pretty distinctive haircut too.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and the tattoo and everything, but like she was like talking to everyone and like whatever. So she was like we like danced with her too in the club. And so they looked over and saw the elevators going up and could see through, since it was glass, and saw that it was Amy, saw that it was the bass player and they went back up to the club, even though it was closed. It closed to like 2 AM or 3 AM and this was at near five near five something, cause it would have been after the time that her dad saw her in the room and before they realized she was gone. They go up to the club and then the girls see him walk by alone past them on the top deck, but they also don't have any evidence. They're like we saw with our eyes, but like there's no camera, uh, of them or anything like that. So it's like it's an eyewitness, but it's nothing more than that, which I believe that after this cruise ships had to get so more intentional with the cameras and stuff.
Speaker 2:Although still to this day, over a hundred people go missing on cruise ships every year. That's too many.
Speaker 1:That's too many, because if you go overboard again, I guess if it's at night what I'm saying like missing, in terms of like, say, it's dead of at midnight, someone goes overboard and no one sees them and no one hears them.
Speaker 2:I do understand how that could happen but it doesn't because of the alarms there's alarms so now okay, cruise ships have alarms, like if you were to jump over your balcony, an alarm would sound on the whole ship.
Speaker 1:How does it know that?
Speaker 2:There's sensors at the very top and the very bottom of every cruise ship, Even if it's midnight.
Speaker 1:No lights, nothing.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's too many If you throw something over your balcony, it will detect it.
Speaker 1:Oh, okay, yeah, then that's nothing else people not leaving islands.
Speaker 2:Maybe there, maybe there's probably a percentage of people that are like fleeing a situation, but still more than a hundred a year is too many.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:And then watching the documentary poop cruise. Did you watch that?
Speaker 1:I did watch that.
Speaker 2:Learning from that how, when you get on a cruise, you basically are saying like yeah. Oh well.
Speaker 1:I think that they said that there was some language changed. Okay, in the um ticket now, but you guys, I text my sister this, okay, so if you haven't watched the proof, to wait, I'm getting ahead of myself to finish this conversation. This case is still open.
Speaker 1:She has now would be 50 something. Yeah, they've done like age aging, uh, pictures of her um for people if you see her. But if you are in barbados, at curacao, keep your eyes open, because the family I don't again. If they sent this private investigator, fine, but I don't understand, like, why they haven't gone to the to barbados, where that ip is god and also, why have the kidnappers or the people holding her hostage been like a million bucks, and we'll give her back oh, because someone someone also said that it's very likely that she has children now oh right, yes, very true and if she has some sort of stockholm syndrome mixed with having her own kids mixed with, possibly being still addicted to drugs.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Like they can understand why she isn't willingly still trying to escape.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 1:And if she has kids like it, that's also. What do you do? Just leave these kids even though you know, you, I don't know.
Speaker 1:So like the family is still they'll put, they're putting things on the website like that are significant, being like you know, if you have kids, like we will welcome them. But but I can understand hiring another. Or why wouldn't you hire another private investigator and go with them? Right, hire someone who can handle themselves, gun, gunfight, whatever Because obviously those places can be dangerous, especially if you're going to somewhere where you know someone might be trafficking or whatever. But I would be like I'm going to hire you but then I want to go with you, or like the dad or the brother or whatever, and so that you know that they're not scamming you. Oh, something else significant you guys, you didn't know you were a true crime day. Something else significant is that the bass player's daughter is featured in this documentary.
Speaker 1:Oh right when she randomly called the family and was like, hey, I'm the daughter of this guy they call him Yellow, I'm the daughter of him and I have some information that I want to talk to you about which is wild Cause. Like this girl fully believes that her dad did this and is still in contact with him. So on camera she calls her dad and is like hey, I have more questions about this Amy Bradley thing and they recorded the whole thing and he's obviously denying that he had any idea or any part of it, even though multiple eyewitnesses have seen him and identified him with her Um. But she said he came home a few months after the incident happened and his mom was or, uh, her mom was pregnant with her at the time. And, uh, the dad came home and the mom found a suitcase full of pictures, photographs of women, specifically white women, and remember in the documentary that when Amy and her mom went to go pick up their picture, their professional pictures that were taken, theirs were gone.
Speaker 1:And that's crazy, yeah, and so obviously the the this girl who's the daughter of the bass player, like the mom and him divorced, like when she was like one year old she said so like they haven't been together forever. And then she grew up and her mom told her about this. She was like hey, like you're old enough now, like if you go to look up anything about your dad, this stuff is all going to come up, and like I don't know if he's involved or not, you know she has her suspicions, but she wanted her to know so she can make her own judgment.
Speaker 1:And this girl fully like has to believe that her dad did this for her to come forward, contact the family, be like this is what I know. Yeah yeah, and that is wild to me, yeah, but like good for her, yeah, so that's really that, and if you guys have any information, on the whereabouts of amy bradley.
Speaker 2:Please contact amy bradley.
Speaker 1:Let's find her um, but the poop cruise documentary. So that I text my sister this, because my sister loves a carnival cruise. And I sent her the screenshot and I was like you need to watch this. And she was like I don't know if I want to. But then I said well, for future reference, and all of you out there listen, they renamed the ship. That was the poop cruise. It was the was it like it was the carnival triumph oh, yeah, yeah was the name of the ship.
Speaker 1:After this they did spend like a hundred million dollars like cleaning it. They said but um, it's renamed to the carnival sunrise so if you guys are trying to go on a carnival cruise, which I heard are not fun anymore because they banned like hip-hop music, which is boring. Yeah, get a life right. Um, if you want to steer clear of the poop cruise boat, then make sure you don't get on the sunrise, sunrise.
Speaker 2:That's crazy.
Speaker 1:That was crazy and you were right. Like it doesn't take very long for humans to start acting crazy, it was less, it was 12 hours. And they just. The crazy thing to me was that long story short. This on this one, guys, we won't go as long as we did in the last one, but this there's a fire that broke out on this cruise and it caused the electric. It like messed up the electrical grids or whatever, so the entire electricity went out on the cruise. Nothing worked.
Speaker 2:They were stranded.
Speaker 1:And the plumbing stopped working. So they made them poop in red bag like red hazard bags, and they had told them to pee in the shower. But when they started getting pulled in by tugboats to shore, the angle of the boat that shifted, it made all the backed up plumbing come out and then the ground was just soaked in feces and urine. So that's why it's called the poop cruise. But beyond that it's just like they couldn't sleep in their cabins because they were so hot. There was no air conditioning, so everyone started sleeping on the deck with their mattresses and the people started making little communities and being mean to people, and that part is crazy to me.
Speaker 2:Absolutely insane.
Speaker 1:What would you have done? Uh, found somewhere to hide with a group of people yeah, I was thinking like because remember I went on one cruise to, and it was a carnival cruise and up on kind of like not the top deck but like one deck down was the basketball court and I do remember there was like awnings that had a lot of shade. I feel like that would be a nice place yeah, but that would be a hot commodity though.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you have to get their asap you would the spa just overtake the spa yeah, but still no air conditioning is their flow I don't know, were there no like? Well, you know what carnival's screwed now? Because they also banned fans, fans yeah, and so it would be even more hot. What a crazy thing. I don't know, but they no one died right.
Speaker 2:No one died.
Speaker 1:They got in. It was just traumatic.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:But would you ever go on a cruise again if that happened?
Speaker 2:After that it would be hard.
Speaker 1:The father and daughter duo. The dad was like we're still going on cruises.
Speaker 2:They were just like we go on better better companies.
Speaker 1:Now he was so emotional like he was soft man yeah soft I don't know wow yeah all right, we are nearing our. And am I missing anything? Ozzy osbourne passed. Oh yeah, that's that happened yeah I guess I saw some fake news that, well, I guess we haven't been told the cause of his death, right? No, I don't think so. I saw some fake news that he was doing assisted suicide yeah, I don't know if we can say that word probably this is suicide.
Speaker 1:Yeah, really I saw a thing that um said that that he was planning on doing that. It was like weeks before, like a couple weeks ago.
Speaker 2:Oh.
Speaker 1:So I don't know if that's what he did, but I feel like they would just say that right yeah for sure, but I don't know so.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 1:But RIP to him. Yeah, and are you ready to hear the birthdays?
Speaker 2:I'm so ready.
Speaker 1:Today's August 4th, barack Obama is 64. I'm so ready. Today's August 4th, barack Obama is 64. Okay, cole and Dylan Sprouse are 30. Both. I know they're 33. I thought that they were older, or at least the same age.
Speaker 2:They're 33? Yeah, I thought they were much younger than us. Oh, only a couple of years.
Speaker 1:Yeah, meghan Markle's 44. Louis Vuitton is just born on this day, the brand or the person. The person I kind of did a deep dive, so I'll get there in a second. Billy Bob Thornton is 70. Okay, greta Gerwig is 42. And then Coyote Ugly premiered on this day in the year 2000.
Speaker 2:Ooh fun.
Speaker 1:Party in the USA came out in 2009. Wow, and the song Anaconda came out in 2014. All pretty iconic movies and songs. So Louis Vuitton. I saw the picture of this man on Famous Birthdays and I was like that's not who I expected that would have been the Can't even picture it. Well, here he is, birthdays and I was like that's not who I expected that would have came in picture, then the well, here he is. I know what lewis vatan lewis.
Speaker 1:So then I started doing a little deep dive, and he did marry a 16 year old, which we don't love in what year?
Speaker 2:like 1742?
Speaker 1:1800s. Okay, still not great. No, he was 33 in 1854. He, at the age of 33, married a 16 year old. So really not loving that, but just in interestingly. Um, interesting facts about the brand, if you will, is is that he worked under this guy who made trunks, oh, and then he was really good at it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he was really good at it, and then he opened up his own business eventually, and the reason he got big is because the King Napoleon III is that, the Napoleon that we know, uh-huh. His wife hired him to make all of her luggage and to pack her clothing and he was really good at packing all of her gowns and stuff to look really pretty, also in the luggage, wow. So he became her like personal trunk maker, if you will, and then, like, he started his own brand but he um died. Like his son is really who made the iconic louis vuitton um pattern. Okay, so, like his son is really who made the iconic Louis Vuitton um pattern.
Speaker 2:Oh, okay.
Speaker 1:So, like his first, I have a thing here Like these are the original trunks I'll. I'll give him these pictures to throw up on here and then. So that was like 1858. And then everyone was copying him, like he was making these canvas and leathers that he was like covering these wooden trunks in, and everyone was like copying everything. So then, to differentiate himself, he made a patent to protect it, but they were still copying him, so he started putting the iconic red stripe on it oh to like prove its authenticity, if you will, yeah.
Speaker 1:And then he died and his son, george, created the um first trunks with the the pattern of Louis Vuitton that we know today.
Speaker 1:Yes, that was in 1896 wow and I just thought that that was interesting, because how crazy that these brands are still yeah as like going today there is still still a, the manufacturing um factory or whatever that made these original ones still exist today in France and it will make um. If there's like limited edition things or limited drops, like, they will still manufacture things like that for the brand, so cool. So here's the thing. Don't know his political views or anything like that. So if he did something aside from marrying an underage girl, I don't know about it, which is bad, that is bad. But if he did anything else bad, I don't know about it.
Speaker 1:I just thought that the history of that was interesting and I will send him those pictures to put in so you can see yourselves, you guys yeah all right we got a jet, I gotta go play more dodgeball, but I love you guys, and if you want more true crime from us, tune in love you so much bye guys.
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