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• Allison Florea & Alex Hinsky • Season 2 • Episode 235

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We debate TS12 without the pile-on and ask whether simplicity can be a deliberate artistic move, then jump to who should own the Super Bowl stage and why pop showcraft wins the moment. We share Disneyland Lightning Lane tactics and end with a love letter to Bogota’s food, spas, and design.

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Allison Florea

Alex Hinsky

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Your shirt reminds me of the taco from Home State.

SPEAKER_00:

I think it's a little vaginal.

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Tijuana Panther.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah. But doesn't it look a little vaginal?

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Um the black like dots, I guess it could be this shape right here. Yeah. Is that why you got it?

SPEAKER_00:

No, I didn't really pay attention to that. It was more like because it was a sleeveless crop. So I was like, okay.

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Did you buy it?

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, well, I I've had it for a long time.

SPEAKER_01:

Oh, okay. Did you crop? I mean, sorry.

SPEAKER_00:

No, it came cropped. Okay. So I was like, oh, yeah, you know, it's one of those ASOS things you throw in the cart. Yeah. It was like$4.

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Have we talked about Depop? Have you been on Depop?

SPEAKER_00:

We did talk about it. You have recommended it. Have I been on it? No.

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Do we talk about it on Pun? Alright, well then I'll shut up.

SPEAKER_00:

Big fan.

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Welcome back to the A-less podcast with Allison and Alex. I'm Allison. He's Alex. I'm wearing glasses for the first time on the pot.

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Remember how she used to make fun of me for wearing sunglasses?

SPEAKER_01:

Whoa, never made fun of you. I didn't.

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I think these sunglasses inside like that.

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Like that.

SPEAKER_00:

Are those new, by the way?

SPEAKER_01:

No, I've had them for so long.

SPEAKER_00:

They're so good. I love Key.

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They're the ones that um I never wear them because I got them with one of those chains when that was cool. Probably like four years ago.

SPEAKER_00:

It was four years ago. You're absolutely right.

SPEAKER_01:

Exactly. And but I never really wore it. I think I went on vacation once and took them. And then like every time I would put them on here with the chain, I because the chain comes off. It actually doesn't go with them at all. It's just like you can get a chain from there.

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Yeah.

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And I would put put it on and I'd be like, you look like a douche. And I would then take it off.

SPEAKER_00:

I have so many chains because I, when we went to Vegas during pandemic, I was like, this is the look. It was. Yeah. It really was.

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It is definitely a vacation look, unless you are someone who like wears cool stuff like that all the time, and then you can get away with it. But I don't.

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Period.

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Period. I feel like how what can we do but talk about the Taylor Swift album?

SPEAKER_00:

What can we do?

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What can we not? You know what I mean? We I feel like we bless you. Thank you. Go ahead. I feel like we have to start with it, right? Like there's nothing else. Yes. I actually do have other things that I have have like sourced, but I feel like that is the number one.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah.

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So as our resident Swift T, give us the T on the Taylor.

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Yes. So TS12 has been released. It came out on Friday. And I gave it a full listen to twice. Once like right at midnight.

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And then Maybe at midnight.

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I did that with you when that one came out.

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You did. It was fun.

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And then listened again on the airplane. And there's some moments, but it's really it's not my favorite. I'm a I'm a I am personally a little bummed that we didn't get another. I thought with Max Martin involved, surely we're getting pop anthems, and I just don't think we got that.

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My question is, are you disappointed because it's not pop anthems? Are you disappointed because it's not like as deep? I'm doing that in quotations for the listeners because that's a lot of the discourse that I'm seeing is that it's like not deep and the the lyrics aren't as Shakespearean as her other stuff. And like to me, as a non-super Swifti, a non-Swifty fan. Yeah, like I'm a fan, but I'm not like a yeah, I'm not deep in the lore. I wouldn't uh call myself a Swifty out of respect for the real Swifties.

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Sure.

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I think it's on purpose. Like I think that it's like a hundred like I think it's the same way that when the album artwork dropped and everyone was like, I could have made this in Canva. Like I think it's all by design for whatever reason.

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Yeah.

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Because she's had so many albums that are very lyrically, you know, intense or whatever the word is, and then for her to intentionally put out songs that are, I guess, the people think are too simple. Like there's no way that's not on purpose.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, I don't know. I don't know if if it's that deep or if if it is like because yeah, I've seen a lot of theories out there. I just think yes, to answer your question, I wouldn't I wouldn't really cared lyrically. I wanted to hear songs that make me that made me feel like when I would listen to like Welcome to New York, you know.

SPEAKER_01:

Yes, which I also wanted. I I thought there would at least be a couple of those.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah. And I think there's moments, there's a couple of them that I think could become that for me. Like honey is one of them.

SPEAKER_01:

But I don't remember that one. I did listen through, I did, you know, a quick listen, a quick vibe check because we were trying to see if there were any for us to do dances to. Um, not at midnight at the next day when I woke up. And yeah, I was just like, I feel like there's nothing that is like what you picture Max Martin producing.

SPEAKER_00:

I know, yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

Which is interesting. Maybe he's like bored of himself.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, I mean it does, I don't know, that also like there's some there is a couple, you know, kind of cringy moments.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah. But I just like I don't I'm not saying it's deep.

SPEAKER_00:

Right.

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Like it's deep that she has is like making this choice, but I do think it is a choice. Whether it was just like, I just wanna like do some silly shit.

SPEAKER_00:

Sure, yeah.

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Or whether it's like As a songwriter, I've definitely done that. There there's gonna be a part two of the album, and it's gonna be everything is gonna be super like the the opposite and super deep or whatever, and I don't know. I just feel like I I'm disappointed in the Swifties, to be honest, that everyone's that people who are I was like seeing these videos of people who were like so excited and it's midnight and they're sat with all their girls and they're going through each track and they're like, This sucks, blah blah and I'm like, wow, you have turned on her so easily.

SPEAKER_00:

So easy, damn.

SPEAKER_01:

I don't feel like you're a real Swifty then.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, what that's that that is by that's yeah.

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And you're like, people that are looking for all these little Easter eggs, they're just like, Wow, she made a stupid album. Like, why don't you look a little deeper?

SPEAKER_00:

Period.

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I don't know. I'm not like I just I just find it interesting that it's being like torn apart.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, it is so intensely, but but you know that the next one's gonna be insane because it's TS13.

SPEAKER_01:

Oh man.

SPEAKER_00:

So I think if this is the case, then I think she was like, I just I need to get 12 out, so I just need to like get it done.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, I do.

SPEAKER_00:

And the deep, deep big stuff's coming next.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah. I don't really understand the correlation between life of a showgirl. That's why I'm like, Yeah. What maybe there is a part too that is like like this is all surface level stuff that's like what the it's perceived, see on the stage is deep, and then the second part might be like the behind the scenes stuff. I don't know, because to me, I can do it with a broken heart. It seems like it belonged on this album.

SPEAKER_00:

Oh, sure.

SPEAKER_01:

It seems perfect. Which I probably thinks he's like, you guys are really off. But um, yeah, I don't know. The Charlie Disc track is like what the Charlies are talking about.

SPEAKER_00:

And the one that people are speculating is about Blake.

SPEAKER_01:

Oh, I don't know this. Tell me. Well, well, let's explain both to the people because there's people probably like my sister, hi, Amanda listening, that literally don't know what we're talking about. So I think we should explain both the tracks.

SPEAKER_00:

Okay, go ahead. Well, you can I mean you're the she has a track, and she has or she has a track where the she says the line, I it's can't the song's called canceled. And she goes, I like my friends cancelled dripped in Gucci or something.

SPEAKER_01:

Mm-hmm. Is Blake a Gucci representative?

SPEAKER_00:

Maybe it's not Gucci. Some designer brand. But then she goes on to Yeah, look up that those lyrics. But basically she says um something about how like it's nice because we have the same scars. And it's like, oh. It's like crucified for being a woman kind of a thing.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Good thing.

SPEAKER_00:

Good thing I like my friends cancelled or something.

SPEAKER_01:

Good thing I like my friends cancelled. I like them cloaked in Gucci and in scandal. Like my whiskey sour and poison thorny flowers. Welcome to my underworld where it gets quite dark. At least you knew exactly who your friends are. The ones with the matching scars.

SPEAKER_00:

The ones with the matching scars.

SPEAKER_01:

But it seems like from the outside world, like they're not she's not really writing for Blake right now.

SPEAKER_00:

That's yeah, I don't get it either. And like the BuzzFeed put out a thing about this song already, and it was basically like the comments are things like, so she supports women's rights and wrongs, hell yeah. Like she is kind of because we're all flawed, you know? Yeah. So interesting.

SPEAKER_01:

So that that's that one. The second one is the diss track to Charlie XCX, which is called Actually Romantic.

SPEAKER_00:

I think it's just called Romantic. Or actually romantic.

SPEAKER_01:

I think it was actually romantic. And that is because Charlie XCX is married to the drummer.

SPEAKER_00:

Where famously Matt Healy is the lead singer. Correct.

SPEAKER_01:

And she dated him for however long or a couple times back and forth. Yeah. And then post breakup, Charlie talked a lot of crap. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

And then her song, Sympathy is a knife, apparently, is about Well, then why I wish if that's true, I wish Ariana hadn't gotten involved.

SPEAKER_01:

She probably didn't know.

SPEAKER_00:

They probably just were like, Can we do a remix with a child?

SPEAKER_01:

And she wasn't like, well, we wrote this about Taylor. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_00:

Yes, that's true.

SPEAKER_01:

But um the chorus of this is it's at but it's actually sweet, all the time you've spent on me. It's honestly wild, all the effort you've put in. It's actually romantic. I really gotta hand it to you, and no man has ever loved me like you do. And then there's a line that's like, How many times has your boyfriend said, Why are we always talking about her? And when I first listened to that, when I I didn't know it was about Charlie, I thought it was about a boy, like a guy. And I was like, What does this mean?

SPEAKER_00:

Interesting. I didn't know they were beefing at all. That's how out of the realm I was on that.

SPEAKER_01:

I mean, I didn't really either. I didn't know Sympathy as a knife was about her. I but I did I did hear like in the world, like that she didn't really like her because of the Mattahealy of it all.

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Got it. You know what I mean? Yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

I don't know. But that seems to be why let me look at let me tell you what in my quick listen.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah.

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I gotta go both the tracks.

SPEAKER_00:

Pull them up.

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I honestly like the sound of cancelled. Like it's like fun.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, it is fun.

SPEAKER_01:

Um Wood is also about Travis's private part. Lord. Um Father figure's cool.

SPEAKER_00:

She sings the word dickmatized.

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She kind of like the like dick of it is kind of like there's like an effect on it, so you can't really hear it. But it is like that's like the one where the lyrics are people are like, what is what is she doing? Like she's never like written lyrics like this. Um, but like, whatever, girl. Travis is putting it down. Yeah. I guess. Um, but yeah, so that's really been That's been it. It I guess it's only been two days.

SPEAKER_00:

Right.

SPEAKER_01:

But it's been a divisive two days.

SPEAKER_00:

It has.

SPEAKER_01:

I haven't seen the music video. You didn't go to the movie, I'm I'm assuming.

SPEAKER_00:

Huh?

SPEAKER_01:

There was m there's like an event at the movie theater.

SPEAKER_00:

No, I haven't seen the video.

SPEAKER_01:

Well, I guess we'll do it after.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah.

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My nose itches one second.

SPEAKER_00:

It's weird I wasn't invited to the premiere since I'm in the Eras tour movie, you know?

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It is weird. We have to ask about that.

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Yeah.

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Speaking of music, are we ready to move on?

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

Okay. We haven't talked about Bad Bunny.

SPEAKER_00:

That's so funny. Did you see the like video clip I put on my story where Tommy Lauren or whatever her name is?

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Oh, with Crystal Ball.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, with Crystal Ball, yeah.

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Um, I know her just because it's one of the it doesn't matter. I know who she is. Yeah. Isn't that crazy? Her name is Crystal Ball.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, it is crazy.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah. Where she's like Puerto Rico's part of America, dear.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah.

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Duh.

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What's the woman's name again?

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Tommy Lauren.

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No.

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Crystal ball?

SPEAKER_00:

It's funny because my aunt, her maiden name was Lear.

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Yeah.

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And her first name is Shandy.

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Funny. Did they do that on purpose?

SPEAKER_00:

I imagine her mom did. She was a quirky woman.

SPEAKER_01:

I like Shandy. That's a fun name.

SPEAKER_00:

Shandy.

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Yeah. Even Sans Lear.

SPEAKER_00:

Huh? Oh, even without the Lear. Yeah, Shandy's cute.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

Okay, anyway.

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But yes, Bad Bunny was named the Super Bowl performer of 2026.

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Good American artist.

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And everyone thought, yes, because in case anyone doesn't know, Puerto Rico is part of America.

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Yes.

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Everyone thought it was going to be Taylor. So that's disappointing, only just because, like, if Travis is retiring, it's like it would have been if they make it to the Super Bowl, we're assuming the Kansas City Chiefs were making it there, but we don't know. We don't know. Actually, I think that they lost like a bunch of their first games. So it's not looking great, but you know, it can be turned around.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

But apparently, when it first was announced, and I was like going through, it looked like the other side of the world that isn't a pop, you know, want the pop stars, really wanted Metallica because I think Metallica might be like from the area.

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Oh.

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Metallica, wow.

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So everyone thought it's gotta be Metallica.

SPEAKER_00:

Do we know where the Super Bowl is being held?

SPEAKER_01:

I think it's San Francisco, right? I think it's 49ers stadium. Remember? The 49ers and the sourdough and the whatever. Yeah. I think. But here's my thing, you guys. Bad Bunny, I think he puts on a good show.

SPEAKER_00:

He does.

SPEAKER_01:

I really, I don't know many songs, but that's just because I'm really out of the loop on a lot of music.

SPEAKER_00:

But you know the beats.

SPEAKER_01:

I know the beats and the song Titi Me Pergunto.

SPEAKER_00:

Yes.

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Great song. Everyone should listen to it. Sorry about my pronunciation. That's a fire song. Really like to work out when that song's playing. But I don't know. I think he's cute. I think I'm sure he'll bring people out. Like I feel like he has songs with other people in it. I watched a little bit of his Coachella a couple years ago.

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Yeah.

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And I it it was fun.

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His Coachella.

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His Coachella. Yeah. His Coachella said. Yeah. But like, I'm sorry. I think the days of like Metallica are over at the Super Bowl. I hope so. I think we're far too stimulation and like a band just playing, unless it's something like, which I'm in favor of, of like the the Aerosmith and saying, whatever. Like that amount of Aerosmith playing and then adding in like all those other types of music was obviously my favorite.

SPEAKER_00:

What I would love to see is a Janet Jackson comeback.

SPEAKER_01:

Yes.

SPEAKER_00:

No JT, just Janet. And having just seen her at the AMA's, she can still fucking perform.

SPEAKER_01:

That would be that would be a good one.

SPEAKER_00:

Oh my god, it'd be so good.

SPEAKER_01:

Maybe if the Super Bowl's ever back in Indiana soon, before she's Yeah, get an Indiana performer. Before she's too old. Not that she not that anyone's ever too old, but I'm just saying Tina Turner was doing that well into her 70s. That's true. I will take that back. But I'm just saying, like, if it in the like, you know, next 10 years, if it's there, like that would be fun. That would be fun. Because I think it was there in like 2016 though. So I don't know.

SPEAKER_02:

The Super Bowl?

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Yeah, because I went to the taping of Jimmy Fallon.

SPEAKER_02:

Oh.

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Because they were doing uh Jimmy Fallon and Indie, and my friend and I got tickets to go, and it was actually really fun. And Taylor Lautner was there.

SPEAKER_00:

Same birthday.

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Oh my gosh. Well, I don't know. I'm excited about it. I don't I think that I don't really ever care.

SPEAKER_00:

I don't really ever care either.

SPEAKER_01:

If it was like Metallica or something, sorry, to the Metallica fans, I would be like, meh, I'm bored because I want to see people like running around and dancing and like dancers and whatever. Yep. But yeah. I don't know. And again, Puerto Rico is a part of America.

SPEAKER_00:

Write it down.

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The other big news is that Nicole Kidman and Keith Urban have split.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, I saw that Keith is the one that filed.

SPEAKER_01:

Yes. 19 years. Now, there was some talk about maybe he's cheating with his guitar player, and apparently it has come out that that person has a boyfriend. So I think that that was a weird thing.

SPEAKER_00:

His guitar player is a woman?

SPEAKER_01:

Yep. I think it came out that he changed the lyrics of a song that maybe previously was about Nicole and like put the guitar player's name in it. But I think that was just him like being weird or being funny or whatever.

SPEAKER_00:

Because there is like a lot of speculation that he's G-A-Y.

SPEAKER_01:

Right. So I don't know, but I think what I saw uh today was it's gone now, but the guitar pla the guitar player has a a partner.

SPEAKER_00:

Oh so it's like either they're both cheating or it's just like she's gotten caught up in this and he just like the one that has been afflicted.

SPEAKER_01:

True.

SPEAKER_00:

You know? Not always, I'm sure, but typically.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, I don't know. I like don't know what they taught what they possibly could have talked about.

SPEAKER_00:

I don't even that's wild.

SPEAKER_01:

And the joke of her taking every role ever just to not be home.

SPEAKER_00:

I mean, Joyce asked her on the red carpet, because it got edited out of our interview, but she asks her, What's your best dating advice? And she literally goes, Well, I I don't date and I won't date, so be in your power. That part made it into the interview. But I was like, Oh, so she doesn't date.

SPEAKER_01:

Well, she doesn't have to. She can just be like, Hey, do you want to date me?

SPEAKER_00:

Do you want to help me brush my wigs?

SPEAKER_01:

Honestly, I like can picture like sitting in a dark, cold room just brushing the cool's wigs. Watching her own movies, brushing her wigs. I don't know.

SPEAKER_00:

Stoked for practical magic too, though.

SPEAKER_01:

Oh, hell yeah. But yeah, I don't know what they were talking about.

SPEAKER_00:

And um I'm sad though.

SPEAKER_01:

A 19 years is a long time.

SPEAKER_00:

It is a long time. Did you see another pop the pop news that InSync is now finally discussing a stadium tour ahead of their 30-year anniversary?

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Without Justin.

SPEAKER_00:

Well, uh he's not in the picture that I saw.

SPEAKER_01:

I did see a headline, I didn't read into it.

SPEAKER_00:

If if Justin wasn't an idiot, he would do it. I it would only do insane things for all of them.

SPEAKER_01:

He it is actually wild. If he doesn't, it's so wild because he's so down in popularity right now. No one is really on his side.

SPEAKER_00:

And look at the Backstreet Boys. It like they were never not popular, but this totally like gave them a huge Yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

And they've been doing it for a long time. Like they've still been touring because I've seen them through three freaking times.

SPEAKER_00:

They toured with um New Kids on the Block. And then they did the residency in Vegas like four years ago. Yeah. But then something about this one and the resurgence of Millennium, I think that like kicked them into like a new.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, they definitely need to do it, and he would actually be so stupid not to do it. Like, get over yourself. Because if he doesn't, people are going to be even more annoyed at him.

SPEAKER_00:

Correct.

SPEAKER_01:

And someone has to tell him that.

SPEAKER_00:

Please.

SPEAKER_01:

How do we how do we get this information?

SPEAKER_00:

How do we get this information to Justin?

SPEAKER_01:

It's gonna ruin the tour.

SPEAKER_00:

It's gonna ruin the tour.

SPEAKER_01:

Oh my gosh. Um, Diddy was sentenced to four years in prison.

SPEAKER_00:

I didn't see the sentencing. Is this the conclusion?

SPEAKER_01:

Four years. And he'll get out, yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

He'll get out on good behavior or something. Lord. That is fucking crazy.

SPEAKER_01:

I don't know.

SPEAKER_00:

Frickin' wild.

SPEAKER_01:

What's your let's play a game called what's your TikTok for you page right now?

SPEAKER_00:

Okay, I actually I already know this.

SPEAKER_01:

Okay, tell me.

SPEAKER_00:

It's a lot of shihtzus right now because I interacted with one that was so cute, named like Mr. Fluff and Tail.

SPEAKER_01:

Love that name.

SPEAKER_00:

And then just like was obsessed, and also because boyfriend is talking about wanting to get his own dog. And I want him to get he wants to get a little black something, and we've agreed it won't shed. And I think he should get a little black shih tzu.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

And he wants to name it Romeo. How cute.

SPEAKER_01:

Aww, I had hamsters. Oh, I told you that before. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

I would love Stanley to have a little brother.

SPEAKER_01:

Oh my gosh, you should get a Pomeranian, a blonde Pomeranian.

SPEAKER_00:

I was just showing him Macy today.

SPEAKER_01:

Oh. That's her. Oh my gosh, we haven't talked about your trip. What the heck? We just started.

SPEAKER_00:

Or yours.

SPEAKER_01:

What was mine? Oh.

SPEAKER_00:

Was it a successful day?

SPEAKER_01:

Yes. Um, I just went to Disneyland.

SPEAKER_00:

Were you on the same page as far as like Yeah. Okay.

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Oh my gosh, yes.

SPEAKER_00:

Good, good, good.

SPEAKER_01:

Although I forgot my I forgot to take my purse there.

SPEAKER_00:

What?

SPEAKER_01:

I like because I drove.

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Yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

And like halfway in the drive, I was like trying to find my purse because I wanted to put chapstick on. And I was like, can you look behind my like chair see and see if my bag's back there? And he was like, no. And I was like, I left my purse at home. Like I've never done that before. That was so weird.

SPEAKER_00:

That is wild. Did you need anything in it?

SPEAKER_01:

No, because I could do everything on my phone.

SPEAKER_00:

Thank God you don't have a nasal spray addiction.

SPEAKER_01:

Thank God.

SPEAKER_00:

It would have ruined it.

SPEAKER_01:

I and I had grabbed my external charger. So I and I had a fanny pack in my trunk for when I go hiking.

SPEAKER_00:

Okay, so you had backups, but just no chapstick.

SPEAKER_01:

No chapstick, no gum, no tampons. And I needed them, which is crazy. I had to get a free one from the bathroom.

SPEAKER_00:

They do that?

SPEAKER_01:

They do. That's nice. That is nice. Yeah. Um, but I lived. So anyway, that was a side note. Um we got there probably at like 12 30.

SPEAKER_00:

Oh, nice.

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And then left at 6.

SPEAKER_00:

Did you hop?

SPEAKER_01:

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_00:

Oh, nice.

SPEAKER_01:

And it was a little tough, honestly, with the Lightning Lane. Was it? I had to go, I had to modify for like a long time.

SPEAKER_00:

It's funny because I have a theory about this.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

I think what they've started doing is like, say we went to the park when they opened and got Lightning Lane. I think they prioritize those people. Oh, it's that get Lightning Lane at the beginning of the day or have pre-ordered it with their tickets. And then the later you come, the less you are in the queue for when you refresh.

SPEAKER_01:

Okay, that makes sense. It it still worked, but it um took way longer. It was like there was one, I was like doing it for like a half hour, 40 minutes.

SPEAKER_00:

If someone went through this podcast just to pull out the clips where we talked about Lightning Lane specifically, I think it would be its own episode.

SPEAKER_01:

I have seen it's funny. I have seen people make TikToks about a different hack, which is the stacking hack.

SPEAKER_00:

Stack hack?

SPEAKER_01:

Stacking.

SPEAKER_00:

I've never heard of a stack hack.

SPEAKER_01:

Well, I think that it's not as it's not as fast as ours, because ours you can get to stuff so much faster.

SPEAKER_00:

Stacking is when you wait the hour.

SPEAKER_01:

It's like where you wait until you can do your next one. So you do one for like super late.

SPEAKER_00:

Okay.

SPEAKER_01:

And then you go, I don't know. I actually don't understand.

SPEAKER_00:

I'm curious, so I need next time you see a TikTok, send it my way.

SPEAKER_01:

I will. I actually don't understand it, so I can't presume to tell. I don't know. Whatever. But yeah, we were like, we're not gonna stay late.

SPEAKER_00:

You were on the same page.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah. Uh we got to do most things except Thunder Mountain is closed for refurbishment.

SPEAKER_00:

Well, you wouldn't have done that anyway, right?

unknown:

Thunder Mountain.

SPEAKER_00:

Um Thunder Mountain, sorry, not Splash. And Splash is gone, whatever.

SPEAKER_01:

Tiana's, we would not. Yeah, we weren't gonna do that. No. We did Incredit Coaster first, got it out of the way. We did um Soarin, which I didn't get to do last time because it broke down.

SPEAKER_00:

Is it California right now or is it World? It's World. It's World.

SPEAKER_01:

And then we ate lunch and then we went and did two started in Cali. Yes, because it was an oogie boogie night.

SPEAKER_00:

Right.

SPEAKER_01:

So yeah, it was like very chill. I tried a pumpkin cheesecake cold brew. It was pretty good. It wasn't my favorite.

SPEAKER_00:

Where's it from?

SPEAKER_01:

The Red Rose Tavern.

SPEAKER_00:

Oh, I did see this. I think you might have sent this to me.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, it was pretty good for like a seasonal thing, but it wasn't as still the black cafe the best one. Yeah. And tried an apple um apple banana pudding.

SPEAKER_00:

Oh.

SPEAKER_01:

Caramel apple banana pudding.

SPEAKER_00:

Whoa, how was that?

SPEAKER_01:

Delish.

SPEAKER_00:

Where from?

SPEAKER_01:

Highly recommend the San Francisco area.

SPEAKER_00:

They have great shit over there.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah. And I tried the, I think it's something you've had before, the like shrimp.

SPEAKER_00:

Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. The roll. Yeah. Yeah, so good. Delish. Yes.

SPEAKER_01:

That was my lunch.

SPEAKER_00:

Yep.

SPEAKER_01:

And that's it, I think. Didn't really try that many treats, which I'm like sad about.

SPEAKER_00:

Oh, I had that when we went with Angela, Sass, Megan, this earlier this summer.

SPEAKER_01:

The roll?

SPEAKER_00:

The roll.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah. So I don't know when we're going back, but I need to prioritize more seasonal things.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, it's important.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah. I think that's it. How's your trip?

SPEAKER_00:

My trip was good. Here are the highlights.

SPEAKER_01:

Um I can't believe you made me go first when you went to a different country.

SPEAKER_00:

That's great. It's actually, I was there so short, but here's the here are the high notes. Global entry, worth it.

SPEAKER_01:

So worth it. Save my ass in air. Oh my gosh. Can't recommend enough.

SPEAKER_00:

Um flights there, perfect. Flights back, perfect. Everything was good there. Columbia. Guys, I went to Bogota, Columbia to visit my friend Susanna, who moved there in July. My takeaway is everyone must go to Bogota. I have had I had the best burger of my life.

SPEAKER_01:

Wow.

SPEAKER_00:

I wouldn't like I ate at, we never ate anywhere under five stars. We ate at one Michelin star restaurant.

SPEAKER_01:

Work.

SPEAKER_00:

Hold on. I'm getting into the but the best part of all this.

unknown:

Okay.

SPEAKER_00:

We got so for one, and everything was so perfectly made at every restaurant we went to. Just to give you an example, we went to a five-star Italian restaurant where we got like six tray things to try, a bottle of wine, and three desserts, and the entire bill was$100.

SPEAKER_01:

Wow. I'm moving there.

SPEAKER_00:

It gets better. I took we took maybe 20 Ubers the whole time, and I just paid them for them all on mine, and then we were splitting at the end. So when I tallied everything up for the split, nine dollars a person. Over 20 Ubers.

SPEAKER_01:

It costs at least$40 minimum wherever you're going.

SPEAKER_00:

Cost me$85 to go to the airport. LAX from here.

SPEAKER_01:

It's insane.

SPEAKER_00:

So like what? Then it literally everything we did was like pennies. We went to a different cafe every morning because Columbia is known for like their coffee and chocolate.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

So and their where Susanna lives is in this area where like every third place is a cafe. And everything is so they put such care into their decor and their vibes that everything is so elevated. And like you're like sitting in this cafe that feels like it's in Beverly Hills, and then you get your check for your two croissants, your two lattes, and it's four dollars total. And I'm just like, what? Something is not adding up. We went to their like Rodeo Drive, which felt exactly like Rodeo Drive. It's like security everywhere.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

I mean, the one difference is their security, and then there's police on a lot of corners holding giant machine guns. Yeah. You know, we felt I felt safe the whole time, honestly, never in like you don't take the taxi cabs, you only take Ubers. That's like some rules.

SPEAKER_02:

Okay.

SPEAKER_00:

But anyway, we went on this Rodeo Drive. I did not buy anything, but I went into like the stores with we all went in the stores. Karina ended up buying these like handmade, hand-stitched, like 100% cotton shirts that retail in the US for$280, and she got it for$30.

SPEAKER_01:

Like they're Oh my gosh, wow.

SPEAKER_00:

So it's just like stupid how affordable things are there. I got a facial, an 80-minute facial, and it was so weird because they were playing like spa like covers of pop music.

SPEAKER_01:

Oh, yes, I love when they do that at nail salons.

SPEAKER_00:

My friend Jonah that I grew up with in the cult, his music came on.

SPEAKER_01:

Was it Christian? No, no, no.

SPEAKER_00:

It's he did covers of like popular songs.

SPEAKER_01:

Got it.

SPEAKER_00:

I was like, this is so bizarre. I'm in like Columbia and maybe you should start recording those. More of them?

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah. Maybe yours are on there somewhere.

SPEAKER_00:

Maybe. Um uh so an 80-minute facial with like a lymphatic drainage upper body massage,$30.

SPEAKER_02:

Wow.

SPEAKER_00:

Then I got an actual massage. We went to like this, we went to a hotel to get like an actual body massage and like hang out in the spa facility.$60. At a US, it was like Hyatt.

SPEAKER_02:

Wow.

SPEAKER_00:

$60. And I got a 90 minute massage and then got to go like be in the men's area. I guess.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

But no one was there. I was the only dude. So I just had like the sauna. No, I had a robe on. The sauna to myself, the pools, whatever. Anyway, so the food was amazing. I had the best burger of my life at this restaurant we went to. To him my last night. And then um, it was just a little odd. It was the only like not odd, but like Susanna still had to work. So like it was like Corina and I just like were roaming the streets, kind of exploring on our own. And it's wild how like good Susanna speaks English now. But here's the crazy thing. She wants us Spanish? Yeah, what did I say?

SPEAKER_02:

It's English Spanish.

SPEAKER_00:

She wanted us to meet her work friends because they're all like we're international like Americans or Canadians that are working at this international school.

SPEAKER_01:

Okay.

SPEAKER_00:

So we went to play this game called Teho, which is basically cornhole with explosives. I posted a little video if you guys want to see Instagram. I saw I didn't know what the goal is to make one of those things smoke, and that gives you like three points like in cornhole.

SPEAKER_02:

Okay.

SPEAKER_00:

But if the rock just sticks in the clay, depending on where it is, kind of like a target board, points, whatever. So like I was actually pretty good at this game. Okay. As it turns out, anyway, so that's oh, that's another thing. So if we two hours of gameplay, it's like bowling. You pay pay by the hour. So two hours of gameplay and 20 a case of 24 beers for everyone there.$16. Anyway.

SPEAKER_01:

Um just makes you think like Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

So we meet her friends. I know. We meet her friends. One of them is named Fran. Fran is from Indianapolis.

SPEAKER_01:

No way.

SPEAKER_00:

She's 29 years old. She grew up in Indy. Like, what do you know high school? I didn't, I forgot to ask her. I need to ask her. We were we clean up connected on Instagram, but she's gay.

SPEAKER_01:

Love.

SPEAKER_00:

We had so much in common.

SPEAKER_01:

Oh my gosh, fun.

SPEAKER_00:

And she was really sweet. I was like, what? What are the odds? A Hoosier.

SPEAKER_01:

Everywhere we go. What do you mean? What are the odds? You're right. The odds are high because we meet someone from Indiana everywhere we go.

SPEAKER_00:

So, like, of course, working with Susanna is a fellow Hoosier. Yeah. Whose middle name is Alexandra.

SPEAKER_01:

Oh my gosh. Yeah. Maybe it's you.

SPEAKER_00:

Maybe it is me.

SPEAKER_01:

In a different timeline.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

Whoa.

SPEAKER_00:

Maybe.

SPEAKER_01:

Well, wait, what was I gonna ask? On the Rodeo Drive, was it designed like a few years?

SPEAKER_00:

Oh, so it wasn't like Gucci. It was like uh Colombian designers. Got it. They were still like it was the same vibe though. You walk in and they're like approach you and stuff, and um do like their champagne and you can get coffee, that kind of thing. And it's like very sparse, you know how those there's like a few things, yeah, but they were all affordable. We went into one that was men's stuff, and I was like, I'm on a no-buy. So I was like perusing, but they're they had these hand sewn, such hot speedoes, like designer would be hundreds of dollars here. Yeah, they're$40.

SPEAKER_01:

I wish I could learn to sew and make speedoes. Right. That'd be we definitely can. For sure. All you need is a pattern, and you get that from formerly Joanne's fabric. I don't know where else you would where you would get it now.

SPEAKER_00:

I would wear a speedo by Allison.

SPEAKER_01:

Oh my gosh, should I try?

SPEAKER_00:

Active booty extension.

SPEAKER_01:

I might try. I'm gonna get I'm gonna get a speedo, but I would have to hand such a lot of things. I'll be your hand model.

SPEAKER_00:

I don't have a I'll be your um fit model so you can test out the sizing on me and stuff.

SPEAKER_01:

I don't have a uh sewing machine, so it would have to be fully by hand. So you're just gonna fall apart when you get in the water.

SPEAKER_00:

All things are possible, it dissolves. The thread disintegrates.

SPEAKER_01:

Speaking of um workers approaching you. I feel like a few weeks ago, I don't know if I said this. Stop me if I did. But I went into I was in Macy's. Yeah. I was like walking. Yeah, but I was.

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