Travel Mishaps, Health Scares, and Creative Grit

We trade stories from a humid Mexico birthday trip—sun, ocean, and a surprise customs rule that cost $450 for a second laptop—then laugh through a 3.5-ounce lotion standoff and a very personal bag check. Back home, honesty takes center stage when a routine dermatology check turns into a biopsy. No doom-Googling. We balance it with lighter fuel: a gorgeous reset at the Getty, a Star Wars journey (yes, chronological order can slap), and a clear explainer on samples vs. interpolation for the music lovers. We also process the wildfire arrest news and the visceral memory of watching flames push over the mountain. 

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Allison Florea

Alex Hinsky

Transcript

TikTok Detox & Mental Health

SPEAKER_03 0:00

You said you just said something before we started recording about staying off of news TikTok and for your mental health. And I deleted the TikTok app for like four days last week.

SPEAKER_00 0:11

Oh my God.

SPEAKER_03 0:12

And wow, what it did for my mental health.

SPEAKER_00 0:16

It is wild on there. Really scary.

SPEAKER_03 0:18

Yeah. I recommend, if you can, like take a couple days away. Because like when I came back, also I feel like my algorithm was less of that.

SPEAKER_00 0:29

So okay.

SPEAKER_03 0:30

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 0:31

Well, it was nothing but it's nothing but bad news for me. And weirdly, like Chris Brown dances.

SPEAKER_04 0:38

You know what? No.

SPEAKER_00 0:41

Which like it just causes me to believe that I can do Chris Brown dances.

SPEAKER_04 0:44

You can. I'm like, I feel like you can.

SPEAKER_00 0:47

Maybe with some practice.

SPEAKER_04 1:04

Welcome back to the A list Podcast with Allison and Alex. I'm Allison. She's Alison.

SPEAKER_00 1:09

I did it the backwards way again. Oh well.

SPEAKER_04 1:11

What did you say?

SPEAKER_00 1:12

Normally I we say our names at the same time.

SPEAKER_04 1:14

Yeah?

SPEAKER_00 1:15

This time we did opposites. So we were opposite each other.

SPEAKER_04 1:17

Oh.

SPEAKER_00 1:18

It's fine. Nothing happened. It still worked.

SPEAKER_03 1:21

It did. I'm tired today. I just want to get that out in the open.

SPEAKER_00 1:25

Alex is too.

SPEAKER_03 1:26

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:26

We're recording the day before this episode comes out.

SPEAKER_03 1:29

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:29

So this is fresh news, guys.

SPEAKER_03 1:32

I don't even have any news. I guess I should could pull up something newsworthy.

SPEAKER_00 1:36

Great news, pop culture, fun news. Well, we have Taylor's album. We already talked about that.

SPEAKER_03 1:40

We already talked about that.

SPEAKER_00 1:41

Still fresh, I guess.

Mexico Trip & Humidity Woes

SPEAKER_03 1:44

Well, you just got back from another trip. Tell us about it. Tell us about it.

SPEAKER_00 1:49

I got back from Mexico yesterday, two days ago. And it was humid. Let me tell you. It was my first time experiencing that that kind of weather with long hair.

SPEAKER_03 1:59

Oh yeah, I don't think I've ever been to Mexico at this time of year.

SPEAKER_00 2:04

It was humid. Straightening my hair did there's no point. It's crazy out there.

SPEAKER_03 2:09

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 2:10

I don't have a curly hair look, so it was just up a lot.

SPEAKER_03 2:12

Oh yeah, because your um perm is gone.

SPEAKER_00 2:16

My perm is gone, and back to having like what do you call like kinky brown hair.

SPEAKER_03 2:23

I keep getting an ad, speaking of that, for some hair product. I think it's a color wow hair product. I don't know. The girl's just always like, does your hair look like this when you air dry it? And then it's like, you probably have this type of curly hair. And then she like uses the product, and then it is like you just need to, you know, know what products to use for your curly hair. And then her hair is like bouncy curl or like wavy bouncy. Okay. And I'm like, maybe that is my hair type. I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 2:59

Maybe it's mine. But I am about to exit this era.

SPEAKER_03 3:01

Are you cutting it off?

SPEAKER_00 3:02

I am, I think I'm ready for short again.

SPEAKER_03 3:06

Any specific like style, like a new style cut or like a style you've done before?

SPEAKER_00 3:11

I think a style I've done before, just miss being able to do things with it. Like once you your hair gets long, it's like cool, but you can really do two things wear it down or wear it up.

SPEAKER_03 3:19

Yeah, but if it's short, like you can't even do anything else.

SPEAKER_00 3:22

No, that's not true. Like I you I do my hair a million different ways when it's short. Bangs up, bangs down, swoop to the side, slick back, messy, texture.

SPEAKER_03 3:32

But that's I feel like I guess I was picturing like really short. That you're talking like a medium cut.

SPEAKER_00 3:37

Yeah, I'm talking about like what my hair, probably around the length of when we went to see when we went to swallow.

SPEAKER_03 3:43

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 3:44

Like that. Bangs up.

SPEAKER_03 3:45

That's very specific for the listeners, but just know that it's um it's a good look.

SPEAKER_00 3:51

I haven't had it in like three years. I've been growing my hair out for over two years.

SPEAKER_03 3:56

Oh my gosh, time flies, huh?

SPEAKER_00 3:58

Sure do.

SPEAKER_03 3:59

My hair does ow. Something hurt me and I don't know what.

SPEAKER_00 4:04

Like a nerve zing.

SPEAKER_03 4:05

Maybe. I sometimes I feel like my hair feels like it's grown a lot. And then sometimes I look at it and I'm like, but it doesn't look that long. Like it's like it's a weird thing.

SPEAKER_00 4:17

Allison has definitely grown from the bob.

SPEAKER_03 4:19

Yeah, my hair, I think it was just like so short.

SPEAKER_00 4:22

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 4:23

That it doesn't feel like it, but I don't know, sometimes it does, I don't know. Well riveting stuff.

SPEAKER_00 4:29

Yeah. Anyway, so yeah, there was a lot of humidity. It was a great time. Boyfriend's 40th birthday was the purpose of the trip. He had a great birthday surrounded by his loved ones. And we had one, it was kind of perfect. We did we had two full days. So it was like the first full day was bright, sunny, hot pool day. That's why my forehead's all red and I'm burnt. Day two was overcast and humid. So we got a full pool day and then we got like a lounge fun day.

SPEAKER_03 4:55

Okay. Wait, were you by the ocean or or yeah, right on the ocean. Okay. So did you go to the ocean or you just went to the beach?

Airport Detours: Laptops & TSA

SPEAKER_00 5:01

Yeah, like from the hotel, the beach access from the hotel. But here's my gripe. So I was working while I was there still, so I had to take both my computers. When you go to Mexico, you guys, at least to Cabo, you press a button when you get there, and either it goes green or it goes red. If it goes green, you move on. If it goes red, which is random, then you send your bag through this thing and you get searched. Of course that happens to me. Like if it's gonna happen to anyone, it will be me. And it did. So they send my stuff through. Comes out and he goes, Do you have a laptop? I said, Yeah. He goes, Two? I said, Yeah. He goes, Come with me. So you can only take one laptop into Mexico. So I got detained, taken to a room. They looked up the serial number of my second, my work laptop, and based on the value of that computer, charged me a fee of$450. No to keep it with me, or I could throw it away.

SPEAKER_03 5:56

So So either no, you don't have to pay anything, you throw it away, throw it away is crazy. Or you pay$450.

SPEAKER_00 6:03

There was no other like kind of way out.

SPEAKER_03 6:06

What's the rule? What's the law here?

SPEAKER_00 6:08

But then he he took my like the immigration paperwork that you sign or whatever. The like when you go to Mexico, you have to fill out a piece of paper, a declaration. And he underlined where it says only one personal or one laptop per non-Mexican citizen.

SPEAKER_01 6:22

Alright.

SPEAKER_00 6:23

So I just paid$450 to get into the country.

SPEAKER_04 6:26

That's insane.

SPEAKER_00 6:27

Then of course I get detained on my way back because my lotion bottle was 3.5 ounces.

SPEAKER_03 6:34

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 6:35

But not before she pulled out all of my sex toys. Basically. And it was like she was like, you repack this? I was like, yeah, I will. Thank you. Anyway, so that sucks. Other than that, though, we got very lucky with airplanes. Like his sister joined us. Her plane was severely delayed, and she was just flying from Sacramento. Like she wasn't even flying from super far. And then on the way back, and everyone got delayed except us.

SPEAKER_03 7:03

Because of the government shutdown?

New Project: Gay and Trying Launch

SPEAKER_00 7:05

I think, yeah, the TSA is and and maybe because we didn't have a connecting flight and it was direct, it had something to do with it, but uh made it a little easier. But regardless, I'm grateful we made it in and out, had a really nice time, and now it's back to reality because this Friday Gay and Trying premieres on BuzzFeed video, you guys.

SPEAKER_03 7:24

It's very exciting.

SPEAKER_00 7:25

Tune in this Friday.

SPEAKER_03 7:27

It feels like it's been so long.

SPEAKER_00 7:28

I because it has. Literally since like what, April?

SPEAKER_03 7:32

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 7:34

So yeah, anyway, guys, tune in, gay and trying. Our first pilot episode comes out.

SPEAKER_03 7:40

Yeah, next week we'll have things linked in case that we can't in this one. But if you're not following Alex on all of his socials and Buzzfeed, follow so you can see the kind of shenanigans I get into being gay and trying things.

Spotify Glitch & Listener Updates

SPEAKER_00 7:56

I also want to send an apology to anyone who listens to our podcast on Spotify. That you will notice it still has not updated, and I looked into this. So basically, like the cue that Spotify uses to update podcasts is very delayed. And the only thing that Buzz Sprout can figure is that it they think it will update when I we upload our next episode. It'll like spark in their queue because the alternative is to take it down, but but it won't immediately come down. And if we try to re-upload with the same information, that Spotify could flag that as a duplicate episode and then not allow it to. So, like of our options, the better is to just leave it for now.

SPEAKER_04 8:36

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 8:37

If it does not update, go listen on any other platform. But if Spotify is all you have, if it doesn't update, I will take it down next week.

SPEAKER_04 8:45

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 8:45

Wait till it's gone and then re-upload that episode and just throw it back in place.

SPEAKER_03 8:49

Yeah. Yeah. If you guys don't know, the Spotify, like there was a glitch or there's a corrupt file and it cut it off after 33 minutes. And we've tried he's tried multiple times to fix that.

SPEAKER_00 9:00

He was able to fix it on everything else.

SPEAKER_03 9:02

But yeah, Apple's Apple's good, YouTube's good.

SPEAKER_00 9:05

Directly from our site, our website must probably is good. Google Podcasts is good. They're all good.

SPEAKER_03 9:11

But thank you to the person that flagged it because since I I myself don't use Spotify per podcasts, I wasn't aware.

SPEAKER_00 9:19

So Heather also, she was like, why does it stop after 33 minutes?

SPEAKER_03 9:22

Yeah, it just like cuts off.

SPEAKER_00 9:23

I'm so sorry, everyone.

SPEAKER_03 9:24

So sorry.

SPEAKER_00 9:25

Um we'll keep we'll keep an eye on that. But yes, that's I think that's all my updates.

SPEAKER_03 9:31

Okay.

ACL Tear: Content Sprint & Surgery Plan

SPEAKER_00 9:31

Time for sports corner.

SPEAKER_03 9:33

I have a few things before Oh, really? Well, I didn't even there's no Sports Corner because I didn't play this week because I felt so ill.

SPEAKER_02 9:43

Why? How?

SPEAKER_03 9:44

Okay, so to rewind, now that it is all the information is out, Caleb has posted a blog. We've had a member hangout where we explained everything. I can talk about the reason that we've been. I don't know if I I said this in the last one. We're pre-shooting a lot of content. I just didn't say why. Um, pre-recording 12 YouTube videos, a couple of um uh dance live streams pre-recorded because Caleb found out through his MRI that he tore completely tore his ACL. And we've been working the past three weeks to uh get content done because he's having surgery um on like I think the 30th of October. And we are frantically trying to get as much um content as we can done because he'll be down. He'll be out of commission um for a week or two, a week or so um just like from the surgery, and then his doctor told him he can pretty much immediately sit in a chair and instruct and talk and whatever. Um and he'll have a brace and stuff on. Um he just won't be able to dance at full capacity for nine months to a year, basically. So we we wanted our like YouTube booty army members to not have a lapse in content um just in case something there's a complication in the surgery, and it does actually take longer for him to come back to even sitting. So that has been a mucho tiring situation.

SPEAKER_00 11:32

Are you just pre-recording, like pre-recording all of the mountain videos and then pre-recording some live stream? Because you'll jump back in probably.

SPEAKER_03 11:39

Yeah, got it.

SPEAKER_00 11:40

Just to give him some cushion.

SPEAKER_03 11:41

Yeah, the information from the doctor was that he can pretty much immediately go back. So we wanted to have like a a week or so or a couple weeks of um live streams. Ready to go, yeah. Pretty much two weeks, I think. Okay. So but we've been basically like our schedule's been one day meeting up, yeah, coming up with choreography for a couple songs, immediately going to the park and recording them, and then the next day having a live stream, some days before the live stream meeting, doing more choreography, doing social content, and then the next day meeting up again, finishing choreography that maybe wasn't done, shooting again, then meeting, then the next day pre-recording something, a live stream. And maybe we've had like an afternoon off or a morning off, but in the last three weeks, that's it's been every day.

SPEAKER_02 12:47

Got it.

Creative Process Under Pressure

SPEAKER_03 12:48

And I think it's it's not like obviously like a lot of people work every like go to work every day, and it's not like our work isn't every day. We just don't normally it's uh we're not on camera every day. Yes, we're not on camera every day. It's it's mainly a couple days a week on camera and then the rest of the days editing and that kind of thing, right? And so I think it's been mentally exhausting to like be on like a personality, yeah, and then also trying to come up with um choreography that is like exciting and not repetitive to do, which we've all I I actually like, the dances we've done recently like are some of my favorite. I think some there's something about us coming in cold with nothing and collaborating the three of us, because it historically Caleb has kind of picked a song or we've been asked to do a song by a record label, yeah. And he's kind of come up with like bones of a song, and then Haley and I will have come in and fixed things. Give it the old razzle dazzle, yeah. Fix things, been like, oh, we don't think this this part works, like that just kind of like tweaked, yeah. But the three of us kind of working together collaboratively has actually been, I think, like made us have like more interesting dances. So I've enjoyed them, but it is like just like had been has been mentally exhausting.

SPEAKER_01 14:23

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 14:24

And then also on top of that, like I don't sleep well in any way.

SPEAKER_02 14:29

Oh right.

SPEAKER_03 14:30

In general, so yeah, so I've just like kind of gotten behind. I the other day I took a melatonin, yeah, and I didn't have to do anything until later, and I literally slept until 11.

SPEAKER_00 14:45

I don't think I went to bed until like after midnight, but so still at least nine to ten hours. Yeah, god dang.

SPEAKER_03 14:52

I know. So yeah, that's been happening.

SPEAKER_00 14:55

And if you're do you have any more videos to shoot on the mountain? Okay, not done. Yeah, no, we're not done.

SPEAKER_03 15:00

I think we have three, four more.

SPEAKER_00 15:03

Okay, well, that's less than I thought.

SPEAKER_03 15:05

Yeah, we've You're over halfway. Yeah, we've been really cranking.

SPEAKER_00 15:08

Because I imagine he's gonna have to start like getting prepped for surgery.

SPEAKER_03 15:12

He is like he's already doing physical therapy. They told him that it's really it helped him that he didn't stop moving and working out, like he was still going to berries, which is wild.

SPEAKER_00 15:22

But they Because it didn't allow it to like heal or stiffen up or anything.

SPEAKER_03 15:26

Yeah, stiffen up. Um, because basically, before you do ACL surgery, they want you to your quad to be as strong as it possibly can because it's gonna atrophy so much. And um, that hinders your recovery a little bit if once the surgery is done and you can eventually start moving on it if the muscles have deteriorated deteriorated so much. So they're they're actually like if people have that injury and then they just like go to not moving, sitting and trying to like rest it quote for a period of time before they go get it checked out, that usually is to their detriment. And because he didn't do that, they that actually helped him a little bit. So he's already been going to physical therapy and still working out. Okay, it's just like certain movements remind him that he basically has nothing like holding his knee together.

SPEAKER_02 16:28

Yeah, I don't know.

SPEAKER_03 16:29

It's a weird thing. Like, I've I would assume if you had that injury, like you can't do yeah, you can't even walk. And I guess that's not the case. I don't know. Cause I'm used to seeing like basketball players or someone like that. Like, I don't know. Yeah. So that's been happening. Damn. What else was I going to update on?

SPEAKER_00 16:52

Well, you didn't play.

SPEAKER_03 16:54

Oh, I didn't. Oh yeah, because when uh Wednesday we had the yeah, we were just like choreographing songs. And I I don't know, I think I I woke up and we had the day before had done a couple, choreographed a couple songs, had a live stream, and then I woke up the next day and I had oh I when I went to sleep, I had a headache. And then I woke up and the headache was still there.

SPEAKER_02 17:22

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 17:23

And I was like worried that I was getting sick. Like, I don't know. And then I was like super nauseous.

SPEAKER_01 17:30

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 17:32

And I was like, oh no, I feel like I'm getting like the flu or something. Like, what what else would make you nauseous? Kind of have like stomach issues, like bathroom issues, and then also have a headache. And like, I I thought I always think I have a fever. Right. I didn't took my temperature, it was 98. Yeah, like it was as normal as it could possibly be. But for a while I was like, Oh, I'm warm. I have a fever.

SPEAKER_02 17:55

Yeah.

Health Anxiety & Biopsy Reveal

SPEAKER_03 17:55

And I was like, oh no, I have the flu, but I we had to shoot videos still. We had to shoot literally three. And the third one, I don't even know if it's usable because it was so dark. Like, oh shit, it the sun was going, yeah. Caleb bless his heart was just like messing up the same section over and over, just because I think he wasn't like he was probably at his wits' end too. Sure. And yeah, I just like I messaged the group and I was like, you guys, I and so many people weren't gonna be there, and I was like, I'm gonna have to go. And I was like, hey guys, do we have enough that like you can do without me? Because I feel so bad. And they were like, Yeah, totally. So there's no sports corner because I didn't play. Okay, but I did remember the one thing I do need to update you on. Yes, and I just put out a vlog yesterday, which is today when we're recording, um that talks about a little bit of health. I haven't even talked to you because you've gone a little bit of health stuff, and that is on Thursday I went to the dermatologist and had to have a biopsy done on a spot on my head right here. And I don't know what's happening with it, but I obviously have health anxiety and I am a hypochondriac, and I am not doing well with that. Oh my god. Um in the vlog I I went in depth on it, but the TLDR is I've had like a spot on my head that I was worried about, but I tried to do the exact opposite of what I always do and not freak out and not Google and like panic about it. And I didn't really tell anyone. I was just like, I already had this um standing appointment because it has become a yearly thing just to get a full body check. I did it last year. So I already had this appointment and I was like, okay, I'm just gonna ask about it when I go. And then I was so sure that I would go and be like, they should be like, oh, it's nothing. Because when I freak out about things, it's never actually been right the thing that I think it is. And she looks at it. I told her I was, she was like, Do you have any like concerns or concern areas? And I told her, and she looks at it under her like microscope thing, and she was basically like, Yeah, I think I think I want to biopsy this. She was kind of silent for a second, which didn't love. Um, and then naturally I freaked out and cried, and she was not ready for that, I guess. Cause she was like, What are you like what's wrong? Yeah, I was like, sorry, I have I'm like, I have a lot of health anxiety, like I'm kind of freaking out right now. And she was like, Well, what's your concern? And I would, I was, I wanted to be like, I don't know that I have cancer, but yeah, I won't know for a couple weeks, but that's something that is stressing me out.

SPEAKER_00 20:58

What is it exactly a mole?

Museum Day & Star Wars Catch‑Up

SPEAKER_03 21:00

I don't know. It's like some this like thing, it's it's kind of almost gone because the biopsy, she like dug it out of me. There is like still some left. So if it is something that needs to be removed more, I think I would have to go back and have the rest of it. But wait, what was your question? Oh, it was just like to me, it just felt like a scab, but it wasn't going away. Yeah, and I I don't know, I just like I had a feeling that I just needed to ask about it. So yeah, I don't know. Keep us posted.

SPEAKER_00 21:34

Anxiety health corner, geez.

SPEAKER_03 21:36

Yeah. I yapped about it for a long time in my vlog, so you can go check that out watch that. But I think that that's oh, I went, Josh and I went to the Getty Museum. Oh yeah, how was that? I've still never been. You haven't? You've been here for so long. Actually, he hadn't either, and I think you guys have been here for like pretty much the same amount of time.

SPEAKER_00 21:54

But I also haven't been to Tar pits, none of that.

SPEAKER_03 21:58

Well, they're not equal.

SPEAKER_00 22:00

You're right.

SPEAKER_03 22:00

I haven't been to LACMA, like the actual museum part of it. He had been to the Getty Villa, which I guess is in Malibu. It's like I kept calling him JPG, John Paul Getty, I think is his name, or John Peter. I don't know. That was his home, isn't it was in Malibu. Okay. This is the gallery that he purchased. It's just an artist.

SPEAKER_00 22:20

Do you actually take a tram up?

SPEAKER_03 22:22

Yeah, it's really cute. Yeah. Um, it was beautiful.

SPEAKER_00 22:26

It's free, isn't it?

SPEAKER_03 22:27

On Sundays, I believe.

SPEAKER_00 22:28

Oh, okay. I don't know if it's free every day. So it was free for you.

SPEAKER_03 22:31

It was free. You just have to reserve a time, but just because I think they want to make sure there's not like a million people at the exact same time. But I had a great time. It was lovely.

SPEAKER_00 22:42

Lots of art, lots of history.

SPEAKER_03 22:44

Lots of art, lots of history.

SPEAKER_00 22:46

You love history.

SPEAKER_03 22:47

I do.

SPEAKER_00 22:48

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 22:49

Yeah, there was some. I mean, so it towards the end, we kind of were like, all right, we're getting a little because I think our time was at a we got there at 11, probably like from the tram, parking tram to and walking in is probably like 1120 by the time we actually got there. And we left at 2:30. So it was we were there for a minute. Yeah. But it was really pretty, had a good time. Cute. Oh, the other thing I need to update on is that I have completed the next the end of the trilogy of Star Wars of the 70s, 70s, 80s trilogy. And I will say four, five, and six. I loved Six. Very good. Had a great time with that one.

SPEAKER_00 23:38

What's that one called?

SPEAKER_03 23:39

No idea.

SPEAKER_00 23:41

Good job.

SPEAKER_03 23:42

Uh, what I will say is I have felt validated in my choice to watch in chronological order because I do think that me doing that made the ending of Six like hit harder.

SPEAKER_00 23:55

Because of the new ho the new holograms?

SPEAKER_03 23:59

Like Hayden Christensen was imposed as yes Dark. I I forgot he told me that that was new. Um yeah, I just think like the it made the emotions of it more real because I have seen, I have seen um what's his name? Yes. Little guy.

SPEAKER_02 24:21

Yoda.

SPEAKER_03 24:22

Yoda. When he spoiled alert dies, yeah. I like had seen, you know, young spry him like kick an ass.

SPEAKER_00 24:30

Kick an ass. Take it.

SPEAKER_03 24:32

And then yes, the Hayden Christensen of it and the Darth like kind of having a heart.

SPEAKER_01 24:38

Right.

SPEAKER_03 24:41

I I thought it hit harder for me, I will say. So I felt good about my choice.

SPEAKER_00 24:47

So now you're on to eight, nine, and ten.

SPEAKER_03 24:48

Now I'm on eight, nine and ten, where we have Ray, which I'm so familiar with from the ride.

SPEAKER_00 24:53

From Disney, yes, of course.

SPEAKER_03 24:55

But do you know her relation to anyone? No way.

SPEAKER_00 24:58

Oh, then you're gonna love it. It's really nice.

SPEAKER_03 25:00

Yeah, I have no context other than the characters we s see going into the ride. I know what's her um little guy?

SPEAKER_00 25:10

B B B B B eight eight.

SPEAKER_03 25:12

BB eight.

SPEAKER_00 25:13

B88. BB8.

SPEAKER_03 25:14

B B eight.

SPEAKER_00 25:15

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 25:16

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 25:16

B88?

SPEAKER_03 25:18

No, BB8, I think.

SPEAKER_00 25:19

B B.

SPEAKER_03 25:20

There's two eights.

SPEAKER_00 25:22

Isn't there?

SPEAKER_03 25:23

No. But I'm gonna look.

SPEAKER_00 25:25

B8 B eight?

SPEAKER_03 25:26

No, I think it's just BB8. Yeah, BB-8.

SPEAKER_00 25:29

BB8. I knew it.

SPEAKER_03 25:32

I knew it. Um, but yeah, I just wanted to update everyone on that. And to say if you feel like you want to watch it in chronological order, you should.

SPEAKER_00 25:41

You're heard it here first.

SPEAKER_03 25:43

And don't let anyone talk you out of it.

SPEAKER_00 25:45

Seriously.

Wildfire Arrest News & Evac Memories

SPEAKER_03 25:48

Oh, I don't know if you saw this, but a re an arrest has been made for the person who started the fire that led to the Palisades fire.

SPEAKER_00 25:54

I saw that, and he's from Florida. Florida. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 25:58

Yeah. If you guys haven't seen this, this might just have only hit California. But um an arrest has been made in the person who lit the fire that then led to the Palisades fire. So they didn't start the Palisades fire per se. Twenty-nine-year-old former Uber driver arrested in connection with um the fire. And it says that authorities allege that Jonathan Rindernecht maliciously set the fire, which killed a dozen people. It was fully contained January 31st, which how wild that that was that long ago.

SPEAKER_01 26:35

I know.

SPEAKER_03 26:36

Oh man. Um Rinderneck was arrested Tuesday near his home in Florida on a charge of destruction of property by means of fire.

SPEAKER_00 26:43

Wait, January what?

SPEAKER_03 26:44

31st. It was so many weeks. It was like at least two weeks of straight up.

SPEAKER_00 26:52

Started it on January 31st.

SPEAKER_03 26:54

It was contained on the 31st.

SPEAKER_00 26:55

Oh, I was gonna say, I thought it was like mostly all of January.

SPEAKER_03 26:57

It was, yeah. Um It doesn't have the date here. It says fire in January, but it says contained on the 31st. I think it was at least two weeks.

SPEAKER_00 27:05

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 27:06

Of straight up beyond be on deck to evacuate.

SPEAKER_00 27:11

Do you ever stop and think about that sometimes and how fucking terrifying it was?

SPEAKER_03 27:14

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 27:15

And like seeing it was just crazy.

SPEAKER_03 27:17

Yeah, because it felt like it felt like a movie that I've seen. Like it felt like we lived a skyline burn was crazy. No, I don't think in all of my life I will forget driving down the 101, seeing the fire start to come over our side of the mountain. Called up Josh. I was like, hey, I see the fire. And he was like, he was like, yeah, I think we should go, like, go home. I was like, I just got out of a dance class. Like, I need to take a shower. And he was like, Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 27:50

Pot of parade to your house.

SPEAKER_03 27:51

Shower, change, and then we'll leave. And then I'm in the shower and he runs into my apartment, like bangs on the shower, the bathroom door, like, get out, we're going now. And I was like, what happened to the like calmness that you just had, being like, Yeah, we're gonna go just like get because we'd already had our cars packed for like a week to go.

SPEAKER_01 28:14

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 28:14

So all I needed to do was get dressed and like grab like my purse and computer and stuff like that.

SPEAKER_02 28:20

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 28:20

And it that was so jarring. I think I think his urgency was more of traffic than the fire.

SPEAKER_00 28:29

Which that makes sense.

SPEAKER_03 28:30

Yeah, I will like never forget that. It felt like a movie. Yeah. But it says authorities said the Palisades fire was a holdover fire or a continuation of the Lackman fire, which Rinderneck is alleged to have started on New Year's Day.

SPEAKER_00 28:43

So my God, January 1st to January 31st.

SPEAKER_03 28:46

Yes, but I don't think it I think it took a few days because they're saying they suppressed that that fire, but did not know that it continued to smolder and burned underground. And so on January 7th, as heavy winds swept through the area, the fire began to surface and spread, becoming this Palisades fire.

SPEAKER_00 29:02

And Newsflash, we get these winds every January.

SPEAKER_03 29:05

The Santa Ana winds. I never knew what that meant, but now I do. Um, and it said he previously lived in the Palisades neighborhood, had just finished working as an Uber driver when he started the Blaze, according to the complaint. Two passengers had picked up and told investigators that Rinderneck appeared agitated and angry. They told the news that he was immediately removed from accessing the platform after okay, yeah, he does not Uber driver, but where did I see? Says authorities alleged that after he dropped off a passenger and Pacific Palisades, Rinderneck drove towards the Skull Rock Trailhead, tried to contact a former friend, and then walked up the trail. He took photos on his cell phone and listened to a song by a French artist whose music video included thing things being lit on fire. Authorities said that around eleven forty seven p.m. he took two videos on top of the hill. And no fires were visible, according to that um complaint. Around 12, 12 a.m. on January 1st, sensors indicated a fire in the area. It says that he, Renderneck, tried to call 911 several times, but could not get through because of his cell phone. It was out of range. Um, but he eventually was able to reach the 911 operator and report the fire. So he started the fire and then tried to report it. So he didn't seem like he was a suspect.

SPEAKER_02 30:26

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 30:26

And then he fled the scene, but then he circled around and followed the firefighters up and then took a video of the firefighters. So I don't know, but he's interested, so we'll see what happens. But I guess like it feels like they must feel like they've investigated enough of him to have enough on him to announce and arrest.

SPEAKER_00 30:54

Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 30:55

Cause it's like it's been so long that it feels like they m had to have like been really looking into him. Right. But I don't know. That's actually like a good uh a good button on it because we for so long didn't know.

SPEAKER_00 31:12

We were like, We knew about one of them.

SPEAKER_03 31:15

The one uh Southern California Edison started. I don't know this.

Pop Culture Check‑In & Rumors

SPEAKER_00 31:21

The there was the Palisades fire, and then there was the what was it called? The other huge one.

SPEAKER_03 31:29

The one on the east, kind of by Pasadena?

SPEAKER_00 31:32

Eaton. Was it called the Eaton Fire?

SPEAKER_03 31:34

There was there was there was so many of them. The Eaton Fire was kind of north. That was like north of the valley.

SPEAKER_00 31:41

The one Altadena was the one east, like by whatever the the biggest one was the Palisades, the whatever the next biggest one was was Southern California Edison electrical fire started.

SPEAKER_03 31:52

Okay, that was the one kind of Pasadena area, Altadena.

SPEAKER_00 31:56

That makes sense.

SPEAKER_03 31:57

I didn't know that. Just an electrical fire.

SPEAKER_00 32:00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 32:01

That's really unfortunate that both things were happening, and then both the winds were taking both of those fires and spreading it everywhere. Because at the time it was every 10 minutes, I feel like we there was a notification on our phones, like a new fire popped up over here, a new fire popped up over there.

SPEAKER_00 32:19

We even had that one in the runyon fire pop up for like 13 hours.

SPEAKER_03 32:22

Yeah. Santa Clarita. Yeah. Like, how was how was it getting all the way up there?

SPEAKER_00 32:27

Because the embers were flying through the air.

SPEAKER_03 32:29

How did they stay lit so long? I don't understand. Like, truly there is some conspiracies, but that people like were starting them after all the other ones were in. Well, why?

SPEAKER_00 32:38

Burn the Rich, even though the Palisades was generational stuff. Yeah. Whatever.

SPEAKER_03 32:42

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 32:44

So we'll see.

SPEAKER_03 32:47

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 32:48

Also, other sad pop culture news.

SPEAKER_03 32:50

Diane Keaton.

SPEAKER_00 32:51

We lost Diane Keaton. And that is a bummer.

SPEAKER_03 32:54

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 32:55

So I want to know how, because she was last like I was looking at like last time she was seen in public. She's so lively.

SPEAKER_03 33:00

Yeah, I'm trying to think of what movie, like to me, like I associate with her.

SPEAKER_00 33:08

Right now, Chad is up there watching Mad Money.

SPEAKER_03 33:11

I don't think I've seen that.

SPEAKER_00 33:12

With um Queen Latifa and Katie Holmes.

SPEAKER_03 33:17

I don't think I've seen that. I didn't see that.

SPEAKER_00 33:20

Mine would be Father of the Bride.

SPEAKER_03 33:22

Yes. I was trying to think like why I couldn't.

SPEAKER_00 33:25

Mine would be Father of the Bride and maybe um she's one where she's a therapist to Mandy Moore's her daughter.

SPEAKER_03 33:31

Because I said so. Because I said so, yeah. Something's gotta give is pretty.

SPEAKER_00 33:36

First Wives Club. That's a good one.

SPEAKER_03 33:40

I'm trying to go back.

SPEAKER_00 33:42

Something's gotta give, yeah. That's that is a big one.

SPEAKER_03 33:44

Yeah, Father of the Bride is probably my what I would associate with her the most. Because I said so. Morning glory.

SPEAKER_00 33:59

Oh, that's a good one. The news one.

A‑List Picks: Boots & Beckham

SPEAKER_03 34:03

I don't think I saw most of these like newish ones. I know the book club ones were like recent-ish. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 34:14

Well, it's the bummer.

SPEAKER_03 34:17

Yeah, I wonder. It didn't there hasn't been any. Yeah. I wonder it must might have been cancer or something. Cause like I don't know. Obviously, if it's late stage, it can move quickly very fast, especially what kind. But that is sad.

SPEAKER_01 34:46

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 34:47

And an iconic head of hair. Iconic. Literally. So healthy. Wow. I'm just like looking at pictures and I'm like, what a what gray hair you have. I feel like some who someone else passed away late recently, right?

SPEAKER_00 35:06

Really?

SPEAKER_03 35:08

I thought so. Jane Goodall.

SPEAKER_00 35:11

Yes. Jane Goodall.

SPEAKER_03 35:15

Our is she considered a scientist? Hold on. Actually, I don't want to sound stupid.

SPEAKER_00 35:24

Humanitarian.

SPEAKER_03 35:26

English primatologist and anthropologist. You don't hear anthropologists.

SPEAKER_00 35:30

You don't hear primatologists often either.

SPEAKER_03 35:33

That's true. Yeah, known for her work um with the apes. Yeah, the world's preeminent chimpanzee expert. Looks like a sweet lady.

SPEAKER_00 35:46

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 35:47

She British? Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 35:49

Also, we almost had scary news about Dolly Parton. Did you see all of that? I know.

SPEAKER_03 35:52

Her sister.

SPEAKER_00 35:53

Like sister cool it. It's kidney stones.

SPEAKER_03 35:55

She's like, pray, pray for my sister.

SPEAKER_00 35:58

I was like, oh night.

SPEAKER_03 36:00

Everyone thought she is she's going. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 36:03

She's like, I'm not dead yet.

SPEAKER_03 36:05

Kidney stones. Which I've never had a kidney stone. You have. Maybe you feel like you're dying.

SPEAKER_00 36:09

I mean, you do. It's pretty awful, but it's not, you know, unless unless there's a bad infection they can't get a handle on, which I suppose in her older age, maybe, but kidney stones, not heart failure.

SPEAKER_03 36:20

Imminent death. Um, I did come across something I thought you might find interesting because I feel like we've had this conversation many a time.

SPEAKER_01 36:28

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 36:28

And it is the sample versus interpolation saga.

SPEAKER_02 36:33

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_03 36:34

And our our perfect pitch king, Charlie Pooth, put out a video that I watched in its entirety and it did shed some light for me. Um, and I just wanted to update the listeners because I know, like, literally, I think we've talked about it like five times.

SPEAKER_01 36:48

Yeah.

True Crime Disturbance & Boundaries

SPEAKER_03 36:49

So his explanation is that a song, as long as it can have four of the same note in order. So his, I can't play it because it will get demonetized, but like his explanation was fifth harmonies. I know you're always work from home. So he has uh work from home is like C, C, E flat, A flat G, I believe, in in notes. And then he compared it to a Haley Steinfeld song that has a similar melody. And hers is C C E flat A flat, but then it goes B flat instead of G. And so if it has four of the same notes, it's fine. It's nothing, it's just another pop song that has similar notes. Once it reaches five notes the same, that is interpolation.

SPEAKER_01 37:49

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 37:50

So that's I think where he's in the video he's explaining it, he's like, There's been a lot of discourse lately. He doesn't specifically call out Taylor Swift, but it's was made recently, so it's clearly about that. And it's like it is possible for you to have a song that just sounds like another song, and legally, like this is how you it how everyone interprets one from the other. So is if you have four notes the same, the first four notes of a line, totally fine. Fifth note, interpolation, if it's the exact same. But if you just change one note there, nothing.

SPEAKER_01 38:30

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 38:30

So that I feel like is the end all be all because we have speculated on the side of the so many times. Obviously, a sample is just like you all taking the actual melody and crediting it to your song. So I thought that was so interesting.

SPEAKER_00 38:48

Lyrics.

SPEAKER_03 38:49

Correct, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 38:50

Because that almost happened with Queen Herbie with Cheap Talk. That was the whole issue behind that.

SPEAKER_03 38:56

But I thought that that was very interesting. And he, if you guys go to Charlie Pooh's TikTok, he sings a couple of the songs. I think he has like a couple um examples on this, and like ones that are okay, and then ones that is interpolation, and he sings it for you with obviously perfect pitch that I don't have to sing it for you. Yeah, and it is like very easy to understand. So go check out his TikTok if you check it out. What else do you got?

SPEAKER_00 39:26

That's all I got. I'm back to reality this week.

SPEAKER_03 39:29

Back to reality.

SPEAKER_00 39:32

Can't believe we're halfway through the month already.

SPEAKER_03 39:34

I know, and I haven't yet to do a single fall-related thing. Um yeah, I think page six really is just about Diane Keaton. I'm not seeing anything really exciting. Oh, boom clap. Charlie XX fuels Taylor Swift feud with alleged response to singers distract during SNL cameo. I did hear that Charlie was in the studio. So we'll see what she comes out with. And honestly, someone said this. They were like, I if I was Taylor, I'd be a little worried because Charlie doesn't seem like she is scared to be a little messy. Be a little messy. She's if Taylor, if you're out here in the bathroom doing anything bad.

SPEAKER_00 40:25

The way you're saying this.

SPEAKER_03 40:28

I would be worried that Charlie keep it.

SPEAKER_04 40:32

Watch her back.

SPEAKER_00 40:32

Watch her back.

SPEAKER_04 40:33

Might say something.

SPEAKER_00 40:35

Just watch her back.

SPEAKER_04 40:38

Oh, yeah. I don't know. I'm scared for what she could possibly unearth.

SPEAKER_00 40:44

Who knows?

SPEAKER_04 40:46

I don't know.

SPEAKER_03 40:47

Okay. Um, oh, uh-list of the week.

SPEAKER_00 40:50

Yep.

SPEAKER_03 40:51

Which I almost forgot about.

SPEAKER_00 40:53

It's time you start out.

SPEAKER_04 40:55

It's time for A-List of the Week.

SPEAKER_00 41:00

Oh, I like that one.

SPEAKER_04 41:01

Thank you.

SPEAKER_00 41:02

All right.

SPEAKER_04 41:03

You got one?

SPEAKER_00 41:04

Yes, I do. The new show on Netflix coming of age series called Boots.

SPEAKER_04 41:09

Boots.

Birthdays, Anniversaries & Nostalgia

SPEAKER_00 41:10

It's a gay coming of age story based off of a memoir called Pink Marine. And it's about a gay kid that joins the Marines and it's like his time in boot camp.

SPEAKER_03 41:21

Is this a true story? Sorry. A memoir, yes.

SPEAKER_00 41:23

It's a memoir made into a probably drama dramatized TV show so far. Riveting.

SPEAKER_03 41:28

I'm interested.

SPEAKER_00 41:29

It's a page in it.

SPEAKER_03 41:30

It is very serious.

SPEAKER_00 41:33

I'm called a dramedy. But more on the more on the lighter side. Like it's not heavy. It's not like um hunting wives kind of heavy. It's got some depth to it, but it's my mainly just like a good watch.

SPEAKER_04 41:45

Okay. That actually sounded like a lot of.

SPEAKER_00 41:49

Not that those are fine too, but like it's like watching, I guess, like Love Simon.

SPEAKER_03 41:53

Okay. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 41:54

Anyway, highly recommend. And then also the Victoria Beckham docus mini-series, limited series, three episodes just came out.

SPEAKER_03 42:01

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 42:01

We binged that as well.

SPEAKER_03 42:02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 42:03

So fascinating.

SPEAKER_03 42:04

Yeah. Like she needed her own after she was a star in Hit and David's.

SPEAKER_00 42:11

Correct, yes. And then to kind of get the full understanding of how she like really had to prove herself in the fashion world is was really fascinating. Um an easy, good watch, I recommend.

SPEAKER_03 42:22

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 42:22

That's my A-list of the week.

SPEAKER_03 42:24

Okay. I do have to take a little bit of a side note because I feel like when we do A-List of the Week, I it always reminds me of something and that I wanted to say. And when you talked about a new show, I have to talk about the Monsters Ed Geen story. Have you watched any of this?

SPEAKER_00 42:43

Not yet, no.

SPEAKER_03 42:44

Okay. I am so thoroughly disturbed. I watched the first episode and like I literally had a nightmare. And I don't know when the last time that has happened to me. You you guys. I am not recommending. This is an unreccomendation.

SPEAKER_00 43:02

This is a but that's because Z list.

SPEAKER_03 43:05

Well, and everyone else in the world is like so captivated by this show. It's the it's a dramatization, it's a Ryan Murphy show, which of course.

SPEAKER_00 43:16

Murp. You already know.

SPEAKER_03 43:18

But he's I didn't know this was like a series he's doing. Um because the first Menendez. The first one was Jeffrey Dahmer and then Menendez, and then now he's doing the Ed Gean story, which Ed Gean, I hope I'm saying that right. Um, Guy and Gean is a prolific serial killer that characters like um Psycho, Silence of the Lambs, Leatherface are all kind of made after this man. And he liked to wear women's skin. He liked to decorate his home with women with skin. He exhumed their bodies. He the whole psycho thing is like his like weird relationship with his mother that and he liked to dress up in her clothes, and like the opening scene.

SPEAKER_00 44:09

There's two like there's like is psycho the same as Bates Motel.

SPEAKER_03 44:12

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 44:13

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_03 44:14

Yeah, where he's like wearing her clothes and like sitting in the rocking chair, and like it's wild. And this first episode, like, I truly have not been disturbed by something. Really? I don't know if it's just like I'm getting older or what, but like the opening scene, there's two like two opening scenes, I guess. There's like a cold open, and it's like him. I guess, spoiler alert, he is like vacuuming with like a skin face on, yeah, and just like in like a dress or like a house dress or something. And I think it's like when they come to arrest him because they knock on the door and they're like asking calling his name, and he's like, Yes, he's got this like skin suit on, and it's wild. But then like the next opening, like I literally can't even say it out loud. I will tell you off screen, but like that the first that scene disturbed me in such a way that like I was like, the reason I wanted to watch this show in general is because one of my friends is in episode four and Addison Ray is in it, and like everyone's dying over her like acting, and so I was like, I want to like check it out. Yeah, you guys, I don't know. I just don't know what to say. And uh I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 45:32

I will probably watch it.

SPEAKER_03 45:33

Everyone is, and I just don't know if I'm just becoming like an old lady, you're getting sensitive, yeah. No, I like still enjoy a crime thing, but I I really think that when I tell you off screen like what was happening, like you you're gonna understand why. Yeah, but then I like looked him up on his Wikipedia to see his crimes, yeah.

Wrap‑Up & Final Shoutouts

SPEAKER_00 46:01

And like, let me just read a few hold for children, hold for children.

SPEAKER_03 46:09

Yeah, there are some confirmed murders, but a lot of what he was doing is exhuming bodies from their graves, and then um taking off their skin to do things. So let me tell you a few things that he just made out of human skin, you know. Um a wastebasket.

SPEAKER_00 46:31

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 46:32

Um a lamp, right? Covered several chairs.

SPEAKER_00 46:36

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 46:37

A lamp. Um, some things I can't say out loud. I can't say so many of these things out loud. A belt made from a human body part that both men and women have.

SPEAKER_00 46:54

If that on the chest area.

SPEAKER_03 46:56

On the chest area. Uh a pair of lips on a window shade drawstring. Like what just like I can't even like comprehend. And for real, like I've been, I don't know the last time I've had a nightmare, like some something like visually that I saw on screen then show up in my dream as like a bad thing.

SPEAKER_01 47:18

Yeah, that's rough.

SPEAKER_03 47:19

Couldn't believe it. So, anyway, that's that. But my A-list of the week is a lemon ricotta pancake that I just had.

SPEAKER_00 47:26

What a transition.

SPEAKER_03 47:29

I just had it a few hours ago and for brunch, and it was delish.

SPEAKER_00 47:33

Lemon ricotta, yum.

SPEAKER_03 47:35

Literally.

SPEAKER_00 47:37

We went from nipple belt to lemon ricotta so fast.

SPEAKER_04 47:42

Oh no. Okay, well, let's talk about the birthday. Happy birthday to you.

SPEAKER_00 47:50

Okay, get it to me.

SPEAKER_04 47:52

Our dude, our boy Jimin is 30.

SPEAKER_00 47:54

Jimin finding our bisexual king is 30. Unconfirmed. He's seen, he's been seen in a French gay club making out with a man. Yes.

SPEAKER_03 48:03

Wait, how do I not know this? And how did you not tell me?

SPEAKER_00 48:06

I work with some of the biggest K-pop fans. That is news that I needed to know immediately. So when they told me, I feel like you did already tell me that. Maybe it's just because my heart knew it was true.

SPEAKER_03 48:16

I know nothing about him in a French club.

SPEAKER_00 48:18

Allegedly, he was seen in a French, a gay French club making out with a man. Work. Bisexual.

SPEAKER_03 48:25

You better get it. Ashanti. 45. I started watching their show and I had a great time watching it. I just like haven't been watching shows lately, other than the that one.

SPEAKER_00 48:37

Skin wearing shows, right.

SPEAKER_03 48:38

Um AOC is 36.

SPEAKER_00 48:41

Oh wow, we're the same age.

SPEAKER_03 48:43

Yeah, she seems so much older than us.

SPEAKER_00 48:45

She's way smarter than me. She's way more successful. That's crazy.

SPEAKER_03 48:50

Yeah. It's we're living different lives. Very different. For sure. Didn't realize we're the same age.

SPEAKER_00 48:54

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 48:54

Kate Walsh.

SPEAKER_00 48:56

Who's that? Oh my god. Kate Walsh, of course. Yeah. Yeah. Gray's Anatomy.

SPEAKER_03 49:00

Gray's Anatomy, private practice. So many things. She's 58. Sasha Barron Cohen.

SPEAKER_00 49:09

Fift or 48.

SPEAKER_03 49:10

54.

SPEAKER_00 49:11

54. Okay.

SPEAKER_03 49:12

Marie Osmond.

SPEAKER_00 49:14

70.

SPEAKER_03 49:16

66.

SPEAKER_00 49:17

Sorry, Marie.

SPEAKER_03 49:18

Donnie might be older.

SPEAKER_00 49:20

Maybe.

SPEAKER_03 49:21

They're not twins, right?

SPEAKER_00 49:22

No. Okay. Just weirdly close.

SPEAKER_03 49:24

Nancy Kerrigan.

SPEAKER_00 49:25

How old?

SPEAKER_03 49:26

56.

SPEAKER_00 49:27

Oh wow. Looks great.

SPEAKER_03 49:29

Yeah. And then entertainment-wise, the nightmare before Christmas premiered on this day in 1995. 93.

SPEAKER_00 49:38

We were just watching that earlier.

SPEAKER_03 49:40

I just realized I've actually never seen it.

SPEAKER_00 49:43

No, I've never seen it. He puts it on. I was like, I've never seen this. He was like, Ever?

SPEAKER_03 49:46

Literally ever.

SPEAKER_00 49:46

Today's the anniversary?

SPEAKER_03 49:48

Yeah. That's pretty crazy. The stars have aligned.

SPEAKER_00 49:51

They have.

SPEAKER_03 49:52

And I actually, like, when I was at Disney recently, I decided that this year I'm going to make myself watch it.

SPEAKER_00 49:58

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 49:59

So I'll report back.

SPEAKER_00 50:01

This is Halloween.

SPEAKER_03 50:02

Yes. Uh the uh the show Jane the Virgin.

SPEAKER_00 50:06

I love that show.

SPEAKER_03 50:07

Premiered this day in 2014.

SPEAKER_00 50:10

Nope. Sorry. Confused it with Ugly Betty.

SPEAKER_03 50:12

Honestly, similar vibe. I get that. Yeah. I've watched a little bit of Jane the Virgin.

SPEAKER_00 50:16

I didn't finish it, but I watched all of Ugly Betty and I did like it. I think same creator.

SPEAKER_03 50:21

Yeah. Jane the Virgin is good. It's not what I expected it to be. And then when I started, I was like, oh, and now I get I get the premise.

SPEAKER_01 50:28

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 50:29

But it doesn't Jane the Virgin star what's his name that like is in the legal battle with Ryan Reynolds and Blake Lively right now. I think he's the main guy. What is his name? No.

SPEAKER_00 50:43

Justin Baldanyi. Doug Baldone? Maybe it maybe it is, but he looks so different to me.

SPEAKER_03 50:47

Yeah, I'm pretty sure he's the main guy in Jane the Virgin.

SPEAKER_00 50:49

Interesting.

SPEAKER_03 50:50

Again, I'm picturing ugly Betty. So I don't know. And then are you ready for this? Your movie debut? Well, not your movie debut.

SPEAKER_00 50:59

You bringing up Bobby?

SPEAKER_03 51:02

Bringing up Bobby. No. Sorry. The Taylor Swift movie premiered on this day in 2023.

SPEAKER_00 51:08

Two years ago, today, my debut. Your debut. On the Taylor Swift Eras tour movie.

SPEAKER_03 51:12

Yes.

SPEAKER_00 51:13

Wow, I can't believe that was two years ago. That means I went to the show three years ago.

SPEAKER_03 51:16

Yeah, it actually feels wild. Weird. And then a cultural reset in our society is the release in 2008 of the song Single Ladies.

SPEAKER_00 51:28

Vine. Oh, right. Single Ladies.

SPEAKER_03 51:30

What did you say? What did you say?

SPEAKER_00 51:31

Little app called Vine.

SPEAKER_03 51:32

Oh. No, I do think Single Ladies like marks a cultural reset.

SPEAKER_00 51:36

I kind of agree. Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 51:38

So yeah, that's that.

SPEAKER_00 51:41

Okay, well, that's thank you for those updates.

SPEAKER_03 51:43

And with so welcome.

SPEAKER_00 51:44

With that, and the fact that there's children screaming outside my door. We've got to wrap this shit up.

SPEAKER_03 51:48

And the fact that I'm going to fall asleep.

SPEAKER_00 51:50

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 51:51

And we have to edit this.

SPEAKER_00 51:53

Well, thank you so much, Allison. And thank you, listeners and watchers, viewers.

SPEAKER_03 51:57

Viewers, listeners, watchers.

SPEAKER_00 51:59

We love you. Check out Gay and Trying this Friday. Thank you for your support. We'll post links and sending Caleb all the good vibes. Well, and you guys, because you also have to do the work.

SPEAKER_03 52:08

Thank you.

SPEAKER_00 52:09

Love you so much.

SPEAKER_03 52:10

Bye. Goodbye.