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Winter Blues, Wicked News, And Gay And Trying With Dylan Schmoll
We welcome Dylan to dig into winter mood swings, first impressions, and the messy, funny truths behind Gay And Trying. From a busted fishing motor to Wicked’s new ballads, we weigh joy against critique and choose what’s worth our energy.
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Alex Hinsky
Welcome back to the A-list podcast with Allison and Alex. I'm Allison. He's Alex.
SPEAKER_03:And we're so excited because it has been a while since we've had a guest on this podcast. Actually, maybe almost a year. Because I think the last time was Angela Palamo. Angela Palano.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:And uh we were wearing our Six Flags sweatshirts, but I digress. We haven't had a guest in a long time, and it brings me a tremendous amount of joy to be here today, joined by my life partner, Dylan. Where did we land on your saying your last name?
SPEAKER_02:He said yeah, it's totally fine.
SPEAKER_03:What about your social security number?
SPEAKER_02:Um, we can rearrange the numbers, let them try and piece something out of there.
SPEAKER_03:What about just the last four?
SPEAKER_02:No, stop.
SPEAKER_03:Okay. But I do want to say this because really quick. Dylan, you don't know this, and this is really funny, but something Alice and I have in common, and I guess it's just because we're both from the same place. The first five numbers of our social security number are identical.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah. Weird. That is it is you guys were born in the same place around the same time, right? Within a month.
SPEAKER_03:It must be for a month apart in the same kind of area.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, that's really cool. Well, thank you for being here today. Thank you for being here today. What's up, Mr.
SPEAKER_03:Thank you for being here today, Princess Diaries? Anyway, Dylan. You guys know Dylan from most recently seeing him in things that we've been talking about and posting from Gay and Trying.
SPEAKER_01:Gay and Trying. Gay is trying things. You're gonna have to hold that mic right up to your mouth. Oh, bright here? Yep.
unknown:Cool.
SPEAKER_02:Oh my god, what is it? How are you doing today?
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, Dill.
SPEAKER_02:I'm good. I'm good. It is um, it's you know, it's that time of year, you know? It's like the weather is weathering and it's dark at 2 p.m. And yeah, we're all just trying to make it through. I don't know how we did it before vitamin D supplements, you know what I mean?
SPEAKER_03:I mean, truly, especially these gray days.
SPEAKER_02:It's crazy. How are we getting by? I don't even know. I can't even tell you.
SPEAKER_01:Do you get seasonal affective disorder?
SPEAKER_02:Absolutely.
SPEAKER_01:I don't think I do.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, I don't know. It's like there's it feels like there's always so much going on at this time of year because yeah, it's fun. You know, and it's fun, but it's also stressful, and there's like a million things happening and things are changing and people are leaving. And I don't know, it's like I think the reason the SADs happen so much is because it's like a break in your routine.
SPEAKER_03:Big time.
SPEAKER_01:Um, and the sun going down sooner does really I do get tired, but I don't think I'm sad. What gets me is this is standard time.
SPEAKER_03:Correct.
SPEAKER_02:Like this is how it would be if we I mean, granted, the daylight is still longer because of the the sun and science, but like, you know, it's it's still like funny that like this would be standard. Like it would be worse if we didn't have daylight savings.
SPEAKER_01:That's true. That is I do love the weather right now. It has been 60 in the 60 degree range for the past three days, and I have really been happy about that.
SPEAKER_02:I'm like willing to argue it's been a little lower than the 60.
SPEAKER_01:Do you well this this leads me into one of my next questions is where are you from?
SPEAKER_02:Um, that is such a funny question. Wow, what a very complicated question. Oh, really? It's it's usually, yeah, people like do this one as an icebreaker, but like I don't know. I moved, I I don't know, I moved like I think 27 times before I turned 18.
SPEAKER_01:Ah, okay.
SPEAKER_02:So it it's it's one of those things where it's like, I don't know where to answer that from. I I grew up a lot in Reno, Nevada. I lived a lot there. And then I would say I lived in Huntington Beach um for probably the the most amount of time after Reno. Um and now I'm I'm in LA.
SPEAKER_03:He also says he's Canadian.
SPEAKER_02:Um I did. I live in Canada for the first four years of my life. Were you born there? Um I adjacently. Okay. All right, case.
SPEAKER_03:Also, our sons are meeting for the first time. It's so Stanley is like, am I dominant? It's usually the sissy.
SPEAKER_01:Okay, well, I only asked that because if you I guess spending a lot of time in Nevada and here means that you spent less time in the actual winter months and like cold that you would not like the cold as much as I do.
SPEAKER_02:What's Indiana like? Cold. Cold. Like how cold? Snow. Because it snows in Reno.
SPEAKER_03:But it's does it stick?
SPEAKER_02:Yes. Oh, big ski town.
SPEAKER_01:We oh all right. I didn't know that. Yeah, we have snow from probably November through March.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah. Ours, we let way less snow. We get snow probably like I want to say sticks December through like February.
SPEAKER_00:Okay.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah. But do you like it? I love the snow. It's actually my favorite. And um, I did, I lived in Canada for four years in Alberta. It snows there, like super um super great. I I love the snow. There's nothing like a blanket of white snow on top of a mountain.
SPEAKER_03:No, nothing like a blanket of white.
SPEAKER_02:Well, to carry your signal depression.
SPEAKER_01:I asked my sister, uh, we talked this morning about me going home next week, and I asked if it she thought it was gonna snow, and she said no, and I was sad about that.
SPEAKER_03:Well, Alison, it's a little early with you know climate change and all. We don't really get snow till the end of December. Is it true?
SPEAKER_01:I thought maybe, you know.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah. How was your how was your week? Uh good.
SPEAKER_02:My boyfriend's birthday um was this week, and so um Oh, did you take him to do that experience?
SPEAKER_03:Nope. Sorry if you're watching this.
SPEAKER_02:He told me, he told me that he did not want to do anything for his birthday.
SPEAKER_03:It was so cool though.
SPEAKER_02:I know, it was really fun. I for context, by the way, I wanted to take him. There was this this really cool thing in LA right now, and it travels, but it's it's a s but it's it's called science and sip, and you basically get drunk and you do science experiments. Like I'm talking like I'm talking like middle school, high school science experiments.
SPEAKER_01:Um, Benson burner, wait, it was Bunsen burner?
SPEAKER_02:A lot of things there. I don't even know what they all are. Um it looks really fun. Looked really fun. I still want to do it, by the way. Yeah, just throwing it out there. So um maybe you'll see it on gay and trying.
SPEAKER_01:Oh, yeah, you guys should. How long is it here?
SPEAKER_02:I don't think it has an end date.
SPEAKER_01:Oh, okay. I think it's just like a thing. Rewind though, because I didn't know you were in a relation. Yeah. Where did you meet?
SPEAKER_02:Tinder. Um, we met on Tinder, so sweet. Um, he super liked me. Oh, and said, You're the type of person that I would feel. He said, You're the type of person that I would be honored to hold hands with and walk down the street in public with. Like he's like, essentially, like, I I want to be seen with you. Like, I want to show you off. And my response was, oh, you're really trying, aren't you?
SPEAKER_01:You weren't like, oh no.
SPEAKER_02:No, inside you were melting, but you're like, I can't show that. I was like, oh, that's like the nicest thing ever. And then I was like, Oh my god.
SPEAKER_03:Well He's a lovely man. He has filmed, he filmed a segment for us.
SPEAKER_02:Oh cute. Six years later, look at us now.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Love that. We're gonna get into Gay and Trying, but not yet. I want to know your guys' first impressions of each other.
SPEAKER_03:Well, we told this, I told my first impression on the first episode Gay and Trying, but I'll tell it here. So I was hired to cam op for a Lucy Hale press thing for Dylan. F. Mary Kill. Sorry, F. Mary Kill, BuzzFeed Studios. I don't know. Dylan was in charge of this press day. And you were new at the company. Yeah, brand new. I was gonna say it was like the first time I ever saw. It was literally like six weeks in. So my just for you guys, so you know, when you go to BuzzFeed as a guest or like as a freelancer at that time, like I was, you sign in, you get a badge that's like a sticker. And I having I went in with my badge and I was wearing these exact pants.
SPEAKER_01:Whoa.
SPEAKER_03:And when I'm like running cam, I I'm taking my jacket on and off a lot because sometimes it gets sweaty. And so I put my name tag on my pants. I walk in, I see Dylan. I immediately assume Dylan is part of Lucy Hill's team with the way this man is walking around the stages like a seasoned pro. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:Well, it's not my first time on a shoot, you know. Like I was in charge of shooting for a reason.
SPEAKER_03:I've been doing this for 20 years, energy. This is a compliment, Dylan.
SPEAKER_02:Oh, good.
SPEAKER_03:And it's whatever. I get checked in with the DP, whatever, we're chilling. Dylan walks, I see him coming at me from down the hall. He is walking towards me in his little maroon-collared shirt and walks directly up to me, looks down at my crotch, and goes, I think it's so funny when people put their name tags on their pants because you're forced to look down at their crotch. Hi, I'm Dylan. And that, as they say, the rest of the phone.
SPEAKER_02:And like for context, it's funny. I don't it's just it's interesting.
SPEAKER_01:Full transparency. Thought it was off.
SPEAKER_02:Well, so my first impression of Alex was um he would always walk in, he would take the elevator up one floor because he's lazy.
SPEAKER_03:First impression.
SPEAKER_02:Correct.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, how did you didn't she's saying first impression? What do you mean? That was the art we saw met each other in that moment. I never took the elevator.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, you wouldn't have to be able to do what Alex doesn't know. Oh, he observed you from afar. That I had met Alex. I hadn't met you. Like we hadn't talked, but I had observed you from afar for a while and and and made some snap judgments. Um, so basically he said that man is gay. Exactly. By the way, is it normal that I'm so loud? It's fine.
SPEAKER_01:It's fine. He can hey Milo.
SPEAKER_02:Milo? Milo. We gotta shut that down, bro. He can't. Although you are talking louder now.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, and I should do that. Since you're not looking at your levels. And you seem more comfortable now. Okay.
SPEAKER_02:So um I had noticed Alex from afar, and I was like, oh, hot gay man, um, gonna be horrible. Just like very mean person.
SPEAKER_03:Um like, wait, like he's too pretty, he's gonna be awful.
SPEAKER_02:Literally, I was like, he is so pretty, he's gonna be horrible. For context, most pretty gay men are. True. Um, sorry, if you're a gay man that's watching right now and you don't think that you're awful, odds are you probably are. Dang. Um or you're not pretty, is that what you're saying?
SPEAKER_01:You know what? I think our listeners are the exceptions.
SPEAKER_02:I agreed. Anyone that listens to this podcast is for sure the exception, but there are a lot. I'm not gonna say that every gay man is that is attractive is horrible, but there are several of them that just there's a stereotype, there's a certain demographic stereotype. There's a stereotype for reason. Well, and we work in West Hollywood, right? So there's like a there is a stereotype, there is an expectation with gay men that are just so and like I'm talking like pretty pretty.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, models.
SPEAKER_02:Correct, or or boy band members, or boy band members of multiple boy bands, no same band, different names, or names, or men that have their own podcasts.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, I mean a co-host.
SPEAKER_02:What does that sound?
SPEAKER_03:It's an air conditioner, don't worry about it. It's keeping us cool.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, just ignore it. Great. So um basically, uh, I so I was like, oh, I'm never gonna talk to that man ever. Whoa. Ever. Because I was like, I'm gonna, I'm gonna get made fun of. Like it's gonna be shitty.
SPEAKER_03:Also, I've never heard this story.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, no, you haven't. And um, and yeah, that was my that was my first impression. And then I um and then you were cam-hopping on my shoot, and I saw you in the morning. I was like, okay, I'll get I have to talk to him because he's cam-hopping on my shoot. And and the thing about me is I have my guard very, very high up with men like that. And so that was like my first thing that I said because I was like, I was like, it kind of in a way is like a little assertive, it is, but still like playful enough.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:I would agree. But then Alex was like genuinely the fucking nicest person I've ever met in my life, and I was like, oh, I'm gonna put my guard way down.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, and like it was.
SPEAKER_02:He is disarming like that.
SPEAKER_01:Was he wearing a hat or a man bun? No at the time. I was gonna say, because those also make him more intimidating.
SPEAKER_02:No, no, no.
SPEAKER_03:Was this February?
SPEAKER_02:It was in uh it was on October 31st, 2024.
SPEAKER_03:Oh my god, that's right. Yeah, so my hair was a long time.
SPEAKER_02:It was on November 1st, 2024. And I know that because everybody else got to go out on Halloween and I had to be up at three in the middle.
SPEAKER_03:Oh, that's right, yeah.
SPEAKER_02:So we're in the morning to meet her.
SPEAKER_03:And then we went out for Pokebowls. We did. Maybe like a month later.
SPEAKER_02:Maybe a month later, and he was 35 minutes late.
SPEAKER_03:Can I tell you why? We s it first we picked the Pokestop, is that what it was? Uh one of the one that's in Noho West. Yeah. Is it Pokestop? I don't know. Whatever it is. We picked the location on sunset, and then he said, actually, can we go to this location? I said, sure. Then when I left the office that day, I clicked on our the maps and it took me to the one on sunset.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:So I was there like 15 minutes early, and I was sitting out and I was like. Then it was time, and I was like, he hasn't texted. And then I looked at the text messages and realized I went to the wrong fucking one. I think I called him.
SPEAKER_01:You did what I did when I went to the wrong high tops.
SPEAKER_03:That was really except you went home. I drove then to K-town to still meet up with him. He was tossing a ball in this busy ass like the parking lot wasn't busy, but the streets were busy as fuck. He's just throwing a ball with Milo in the parking lot.
SPEAKER_02:You just got a lot of trust in him.
SPEAKER_03:Okay.
SPEAKER_02:I do trust my dog. It was the parking lot for context was not busy, but the streets that the parking lot was on were were very busy.
SPEAKER_03:Like the ball got away from him one point and was rolling towards an oncoming bus.
SPEAKER_02:Right, and he was chasing after it. And that was very stressful.
SPEAKER_03:It was, but he did listen.
SPEAKER_01:He said, He didn't.
SPEAKER_02:Because I have I do stern voice.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, you have to.
SPEAKER_02:You do stern voice with your dog, your dog listens. If your dog doesn't listen to stern voice, you're a bad parent. Yeah, you gotta train your dog. Come on now. Allie's a great dog mom. She gets it.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. I although Macy wasn't the best off-leash.
SPEAKER_03:So yeah, you couldn't count on her. No, you couldn't. She wasn't the best on-leash either.
SPEAKER_01:She would just eat hot dogs with the battery.
SPEAKER_03:This is just to say this girl, insatiable to appetite. Like her dog, cute as fuck, doesn't will put anything in that.
SPEAKER_01:If you weren't looking, she would down a whole hot dog bun.
SPEAKER_03:I babysat her one time before I learned this about her. We're walking through my neighborhood and she gets really excited by a smell, and I just kind of like let her go into a bush. I hear a noise. I pull her out, an entire hot dog bun. She's trying to like guzzle down my throat before I can pull it out.
SPEAKER_02:Well, and if you know anything about hot dog buns, that shit gets stale really quick. And it was kind of cringe.
SPEAKER_01:She knew you were gonna take it away, so she was trying to get it down. I don't know why.
SPEAKER_03:She was a little Pomeranian.
SPEAKER_01:Oh my god. Let me show you a little bit.
SPEAKER_03:It's as big as her. You know that she has passed. Oh. Because you're talking in current context.
SPEAKER_02:Um I liked it. You know what's so funny is for context, I did just find out about this right before we started shooting the pod. Right. Um, and I just uh forget.
SPEAKER_03:Forgot that fact.
SPEAKER_02:Okay, well. So oh my god, the little necklace. That's a good thing. These are the pearls. Yes.
SPEAKER_03:I loved dressing Macy up.
SPEAKER_01:This is what okay, I'm not gonna say something morbid.
SPEAKER_03:This was near the end.
SPEAKER_01:I was gonna say this is what we used as her obituary.
SPEAKER_03:Oh, it was, yeah.
SPEAKER_01:All right. I have to laugh because then I'll try to.
SPEAKER_02:You had a funeral?
SPEAKER_03:No, we just had some, we talked about it. No, we just memorialized her, yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Her announcement, if you will. Okay, well, we gave our audience a lot of gay and trying promo, and hopefully everyone went out and watched. But I thought maybe we could do a little convo about maybe some BTS that maybe maybe something funny that happened that you didn't show, maybe some BTS that it is just like a a little tidbit.
SPEAKER_02:Okay, we're thinking of the exact same moment. I'll tell you that right now. Milo.
SPEAKER_01:Not the tripod. P.S. What was the fisherman's name again?
SPEAKER_03:Lorenzo Big Fan. I think he is I was people were mad that we weren't tagging him in the clips.
SPEAKER_02:There was one man that got a big thing.
SPEAKER_01:Oh my god, like yeah, he was so funny.
SPEAKER_02:I had a great day. This man's private on Instagram. We were sitting there going, he probably doesn't want all of the attention. But he was performing and he was giving us great. And we kept shouting out the business. We were talking about the business so much. We love little guppies fishing adventures.
SPEAKER_01:Yes, we do, little guppies, picturing adventures.
SPEAKER_02:Little guppies for the win. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:But yeah, what's this? You guys had a moment. What is the thing you're thinking about?
SPEAKER_03:I don't know what you think. I don't know what he's thinking about.
SPEAKER_02:Yes, you absolutely know what I'm thinking about. For context, the whole thing is like I'm so bad at everyday tasks. Like, so bad at them. It's it's criminal. Yeah. And Alex is really good at them. And in the fishing episode, when I was busy catching the fish, um, Alex is Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER_03:This didn't air, which I was kind of surprised about.
SPEAKER_02:I know, because we didn't. We were focused on for context, we were focused on the actual catching the fish as we should have. In the time, Alex um, you know, was he tried to alert very beautiful fish Daddy Lorenzo that um if if he followed Lorenzo's instructions and left the fishing pole on the boat, that the fishing wire, which was 80 feet in the water, was gonna start to tangle around the engine. Oh, okay. And it did. And so Alex broke the boat.
SPEAKER_03:Like we had to that was done. Like we were lucky that we got that fish and that we got we got the good that good footage because it was done. We couldn't.
SPEAKER_01:So while you were catching it, the motor was completely it like got fled.
SPEAKER_03:It was like so. Lorenzo jumped into action when this happened and became like so serious. And I had my own pole, and then he handed me his pole and said, Hold this, don't move. And I see the boat moving and seeing that my line and his line are going towards the motor. Then I was like, hey, like if you watch, you hear me politely a couple times try to like be like, hey, hey Lorenzo. But uh I didn't catch this when I thought basically, like, shut the fuck up. He literally was so concentrated on telling Dylan what to do.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, and not in a dicky way, in a way of like seriously. He knew the assignment.
SPEAKER_03:Like because we can tell this, right? How like we're gonna edit this, so I don't know why. We were having terrible luck, and he was prepared to buy a fish from his buddy on the lake and make it stage it as though we caught it. Like that was what we were about to resort to, and then Dylan actually caught a fish. Yeah, and I got both lines, like I see them going out of the poles right when Dylan's catching, like he's uh when Lorenzo's netting the fish, and I was like, Well, this I'm not gonna be like, okay, hold on, yeah, guys. So truly, like once everything calmed down, Lorenzo was like, Yeah, that's we're done. That's about it. I'm gonna have to spend some time taking all this line out.
SPEAKER_02:Because he goes out on like three tours. Three trips a day, yeah. And we were his first tour, and so we were late, so we had another tour you had to go on after. Yeah, it was a mess. Um, he was so chill about everything.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, really truly the greatest.
SPEAKER_01:Well, you had another boat, right?
SPEAKER_03:So did you So his boat had two motors, and there's one that was able to get us back, and the one that I ruined is the one that you use to catch fish. It's got the sonar in it. It it moves the boat without using the main motor, so it's quiet. So it was like we couldn't, we could just drive somewhere.
SPEAKER_01:Got it. So you I I thought you meant you were just like stranded, stranded in there.
SPEAKER_03:Had we been stranded, Karina and Emma would have rescued us in their tiny little tin.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, it would have been actually kind of funny if that had happened and you had to like be towed in. Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:Like we really failed.
SPEAKER_02:Would have made better content.
SPEAKER_03:Probably I had a great time. We at the office offices there's like TVs everywhere, and they're always like looping BuzzFeed content, and they finally added gay and trying to put the fishing episode in there. So we're playing throughout the office every like 40 minutes to see it come through.
SPEAKER_02:Uh-huh. Which is like, by the way, like, because I I I don't work on the video side. I I do stuff with the video side, but like I'll have clients or people come into the office and like be coming to like meet me, or like I'll be joining a meeting and they have to like walk past this fishing video. Like, what? Exactly. Which is it's like I I don't love that.
SPEAKER_03:You're also sometimes popping up in the food the uh cocoa butter videos. We've done some things.
SPEAKER_01:Oh yeah, I've seen those. Is it just the fishing one? They didn't add like all the things.
SPEAKER_03:They'll they'll probably cycle it in. They like make these like cuts that they change like every couple weeks.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah. I think the I think the Halloween episode was in there. Oh, it was.
SPEAKER_03:You're absolutely right. It totally was.
SPEAKER_01:I need you to know that the moment I got touched by a cockroach in the way that you did and putting it in your pocket, I I actually would have punched someone.
SPEAKER_02:You did you go through 17th door?
SPEAKER_01:No, I know.
SPEAKER_02:No, she's saying had she been about it.
SPEAKER_01:If I would, like that would have been a breaking point for me. I would have been fine with the holding my breath, the whatever tarantulas? No, the bugs, tarantulas, spiders, whatever. That's where I would be like literally She was so dissociated by then.
SPEAKER_03:I was done. She was not even like I wouldn't have been able to do it.
SPEAKER_01:Everything else, fine, whatever.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, the cockroaches um were a journey. I I don't know. I um I at that point I had no I genuinely like so many people reached out, were like, Well, you obviously knew. I had no idea what was going on.
SPEAKER_03:No, no, no, he didn't. And we How'd you get it out?
SPEAKER_01:Did you take it out?
SPEAKER_03:I I feel like a head.
SPEAKER_02:I know where I think he probably pulled it out. I have no idea where the cockroach is.
SPEAKER_03:But like that was it was a complicated run of emotions in that room because you were seeing actual, like, so the the cockroaches that they were like using, they had painted their shells. So they were like glowing.
SPEAKER_01:So they could see them.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, but there were some that were like smushed. So there's like no, it was a little like, oh, there's they're like, they're like actually killing them sometimes, and it's like a cockroach, they don't feel like ones just running across the floor at actually. Correct, and that was happening. They were running everywhere.
SPEAKER_01:No, for real. Like, I would have been like, I'm done.
SPEAKER_03:Well, the best thing that came out of that was we went viral on TikTok, Instagram, and then again on Instagram with Lad Bible.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, and so many people um thought I was a lady for real. And that's the worst part, is I'm like, oh yeah, like you know, people were like, it was so funny because a lot of some of the comments were like, Oh, that fat fucking ugly bitch, and then everyone else in the comments were like, What the fuck is wrong with you? She's not even that ugly. And then it was like comments that were like, That's not a woman. Like, it just got me every time. I because I was reading through the comments for like, you know, weeks it was weeks worth of comments that were coming in, and I just kept it was like people arguing over like whether or not I was ugly. Yeah, but as a definitely a woman.
SPEAKER_01:I get that.
SPEAKER_02:How you did not get that you were so pretty.
SPEAKER_01:I do get hate comments quite a lot.
SPEAKER_02:I mean, I wish I was.
SPEAKER_01:I do thank you for that, but I do get so I was gonna ask how you're doing with the comments.
SPEAKER_02:I mean, look, like I honestly I think a lot of them are so funny. My favorite. You were stressed for a couple days. There were a couple of days that I was like, ah, this is a lot. But my favorite was just somebody um commented a picture of a honey-baked ham. Oh, you did say that. And that I just the creativity. Yeah, you know what I mean? It's like it's art of its own. Yeah and you kind of just have to respect it.
SPEAKER_03:No, it's it's fucked, is what it is.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, it's it does make me laugh because like if you flipped it, you know what I mean? Like, imagine if like you posted a TikTok and I just posted like a picture of a green bean. Like that would be crazy. Yeah. I just it's so funny that people do think that they have the agency to kind of like you know, but if you flip it, I don't know. I you kind of have to entertain it because if you don't entertain it, like what am I gonna do? You know?
SPEAKER_01:I do think like it getting on Lad Bible and places like that, it did reach a different side of the internet than I'm usually a part of, even though I do still get hate comments from on TikTok or on like people that randomly end up that seeing your video that are. Yeah, but I do think like getting on Lad Bible is like a different demographic. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:Well, so I do feel you and people are annoying. Something by the way, Alison, that you don't know is I was watching your videos when I was like really coming into my own as like a really person. Wow. And so it it is actually really um fun because now that we've like, you know, become friends and done that whole thing, it's like you really were like the person that for a lot of people, I think it's like, hey, you can be a bigger person, but also be healthy. Yeah. And also like celebrate yourself and not be, you know, ashamed to put yourself out there. And like that really is. It's so inspiring when you're, you know, growing up and you have people like that, which like we can talk about the Ozempic craze all day. Like it feels like there's people now that like like Amy Schumer and Lizzo that were those icons that are getting all of these allegations, even like when it's Lizzo's case, like she has said, I'm not on Ozempic, I'm just like healthy.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, you know, but it's you can't no one will accept that anymore.
SPEAKER_02:No, it's just like, yeah, because they have to undermine even when somebody actually gets their eating disorder under control, not saying that any of these celebrities have eating disorders. I'm just saying, like in my case, right? Yeah, like you can get yourself under control or work really hard to accomplish something, and somebody has to undermine it in some sort of way. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. No matter like, no matter what you do, someone's gonna say it. Whether you're on Ozempic, whether you're not, whether you love your body the way it is, or whether you want to get to be in a smaller body, like no matter what it is, like there's always gonna be a comment that is bad.
SPEAKER_02:By the way, hot take. Anybody that hates anybody for being on Ozempic wishes they could be on Osempic.
SPEAKER_01:Oh, for sure. Yeah. Well, it is also that age-old thing that's like people who hate people in bigger bodies, it's like you want us, you're like, you're telling me to go to the gym, but then when I'm at the gym, you're taking up too much space if it's yeah, or you're like making fun of me for the way I'm doing it or the way I look or whatever. And it's like, well, like what do you want from me then? Like, what do you want? Yeah. So I don't know, it's a whole thing. But I do appreciate you saying those nice things.
SPEAKER_03:I didn't know that he's known you. I'm sorry, I should have I didn't know you had a we had a fan coming.
SPEAKER_02:Okay, let's um yeah, it's it's it's great. Alex, what commentary do you have to add?
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, tell us what you think about I have nothing to say and only support and love to give. I have all I I was not necessarily a fan of the Fitness Marshall, if that's what you're asking.
SPEAKER_01:Oh, so you hated us?
SPEAKER_03:Yep. No, I had I was just not, I didn't wasn't aware. I'm sorry.
SPEAKER_01:It's kind of crazy. We're really famous. I'm just kidding.
SPEAKER_03:This I know. You just hit seven million followers. That's amazing.
SPEAKER_01:Thanks. Kayla, I mean, it's it's the Fitness Marshall channel. It's not me.
SPEAKER_03:If I had seven million, any of the videos.
SPEAKER_01:Saying if I had seven million, there'd be signs.
SPEAKER_03:You have half.
SPEAKER_01:Huh? What?
SPEAKER_03:Don't you have half a mil?
SPEAKER_01:Oh, I thought you meant half of seven million.
SPEAKER_03:That was like half a mil.
SPEAKER_01:Um, yeah.
SPEAKER_03:Okay.
SPEAKER_01:Anyway.
SPEAKER_03:And she's grateful for all of you. I am. Thank you for watching this podcast.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, there would still be signs. I see that Apple Watch.
unknown:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:1% battery. Okay, speaking of signs.
SPEAKER_03:Oh.
SPEAKER_01:No, that's not a good segue.
SPEAKER_03:I love her. She's really trying with the segue.
SPEAKER_01:I saw you were at Wicked last night. You saw Wicked last night. And I need to know, without spoilers, even though I know the story and he knows the story, and probably a lot of people do.
SPEAKER_03:Okay, but what before we get into Wicked, I wanted to ask him. Have you seen Moulin Rouge musical? Yeah. Okay, so she just saw it. I saw it on the We talked about it in the last episode, but I'm curious to hear his opinion.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, what are your thoughts?
SPEAKER_03:Because her opinion is very specific. Not bad. I think that Moulin Rouge is the worst musical I've ever seen in my life. She walked away from it. She was nicer than that.
SPEAKER_02:I so I um my boyfriend took me to see Moulin Rouge for my birthday, and this was like mid-2021, right?
SPEAKER_03:Are you not seen it do you with your tickets?
SPEAKER_02:No, I don't. I didn't renew my my teachers passed this year. They didn't. Um, I didn't like any of the shows. Um, and like not enough to like get a season ticket. Like you can rush, you can get lottery tickets, you can buy tickets one at a time. Like, really, the only reason you get a season pass is if you want the same seats.
SPEAKER_03:Three or more shows. Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER_02:Or if you want the same seats. Oh. You still pay your normal ticket price. But it's just you're guaranteed the spot. So, and then also the pre-access to the extra shows. So, like And you can resell, right? And you can resell your tickets, exactly. So uh my boyfriend took me to go see Moulin Rouge in July of 2021 for my birthday um at the Pantages, and this was still during COVID times, and so masks on, and he was going through a very emotional time in his life. And uh, so we go see Moulin Rouge, and for context, if you don't know about Moulin Rouge, it's a jukebox musical. And I do like, I'm not gonna say I don't like jukebox musicals. Like Mama Mia Angeliette is so good. It's it's good, you guys. It's good, but it's a it's of the better jukebox musicals, but I do think that jukebox musicals are a lower tier of Broadway musical for me. Mamma Mia is the only exception, but that is because I knew Mamma Mia before I knew Abba. Oh wow, okay. So the songs to me felt Like new, yeah. And they were really well integrated in the story of the of the musical. Moulon Rouge, they're not well integrated into the story of the musical. Exactly what she was saying. It really took me out of it. I'm so grateful for you. And so, and so at the end, like they're singing this, like the big, like sad, like moment ballad is it's rolling in the deep, right? Yeah. Or it's like set fire to the rain. It's some shit, or it's firework.
SPEAKER_01:Like it's it is an Adele song. It's an Adele song.
SPEAKER_02:I think it's I think it's rolling in the deep. And they're like the big, like, you know, the I Want song, uh, which if you know musicals, like your typical I want songs are gonna be like How Far I'll Go From Moana, or um Defying Gravity. Defying Gravity is Elphaba's I Want Song. Her I Want Song is Firework by Katy Perry. And I just so, anyways, it's like this big, it's like the moment where like the very end, it's the big emotional payoff. And what's the song that happens? There's one million songs that I don't know. It's a bad song. It's like the equivalent of like, you know, when like I'm I don't want to spoil no, I've no, you can.
SPEAKER_03:I've seen it.
SPEAKER_02:Like when he's done dying or she's dying or something, and she's like leaning over to him and she's like singing a song. What is that song? Hmm. We might have to Google it.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, we can just Google it.
SPEAKER_01:Um, okay, so this says at the end of Mulan Rouge, Christian sings your song Reprise to Sateen, which includes elements of your song Come What May, and Heroes. We could be heroes, is that it? It doesn't feel right. What's the song before that?
SPEAKER_03:No, there's no one here, by the way.
SPEAKER_01:All the songs in Mulon Rouge for the musical. Thank you, New York Theater Guide. Reject all. I don't even know. Let's go to the end.
SPEAKER_03:More, more, more.
SPEAKER_01:The finale come what may. Through the moment of ultimate happiness of short-lived, Christian resolves to write down his and Satine's love story to the memory he will never die. Your song Crazy Crazy. Oh, yes, Crazy Roxanne, Crazy and Rolling in the Deep. Okay.
SPEAKER_02:So at the very end, it's like a big emotional moment, right? And it's set to gnarly. Or that's wrong. It's set to crazy by Gnarles Barkley. Yeah. And and I look over, and like the girl three rows ahead of us is in tears. No. And and my boyfriend is like in a mask, like also crying. And I'm like, oh my fucking god, he's crying. I have to break up with him. Like, what am I the only one in this entire audience that thinks that this is just absolutely horrendous? And then I like, you know, he's going through a really emotional time in his life. I look at him, I'm like, are you okay? Like, we can leave. Like, if we can, we can go. Which makes him start to have the reaction he was having harder. He was laughing his fucking ass off because it was so bad. And the girl in front of us was sobbing like in full hysterics. And she was like, he was like, What is going on? Oh you're like, wow. I had never felt more connected to him than I have in that moment. It was so beautiful. Shannon.
SPEAKER_01:What I said last week was that I thought that the actors like in this production, phenomenal voices, like had the best time listening to them, especially Satine. And the dancing was really fun, and like loved the choreography, love the dancing, all of that. It was literally just the song choices that it's so millennial, and like I love a millennial song, but it's kind of all the worst millennial songs.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, and that's the thing. Like everybody did their job. The director directed the hell out of it. The production design's amazing, the set designs have amazing. It's so much. Gorgeous, yeah.
SPEAKER_01:It was amazing.
SPEAKER_02:She goes down.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, like the sets were, yeah.
SPEAKER_02:And then it's just, it's like all of these things, you're like, wow, I'm in for such a treat. Firework by Katie Perry.
SPEAKER_01:For the opening number, you're like, hell yeah. Because it's it is um the Diamonds are a girl's best friend? No, it's Moulin Rouge.
SPEAKER_03:Oh, right.
SPEAKER_01:And and they're dancing and they're sexy and they're like, asses are out, and it's like, yeah. Which by the way, the real Moulin Rouge.
SPEAKER_03:So you've been to the real one.
SPEAKER_01:Boobies are out.
SPEAKER_03:So real boobies?
SPEAKER_01:Real boobies.
SPEAKER_03:With nipple tasses.
SPEAKER_01:Famously, I have said the men, the male dancers in the actual Moulin Rouge um were not good.
unknown:Famously.
SPEAKER_03:But the male dancers she said this famously.
SPEAKER_01:Famously. But the male dancers in the touring production were great.
SPEAKER_03:Excellent.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, it's it's rough. It's a rough time. Um, Moulin Rouge, I literally is the show that my boyfriend and I have said we will never see again.
SPEAKER_01:Okay, well, it wasn't it wasn't my favorite.
SPEAKER_03:It is my bestie Megan's favorite show. And opinions are wrong. She well, she went the first time she saw it, she hated it. She was like, that is awful. Then she won tickets in the lottery. She's like, I'll go again. Now it's Jojo.
SPEAKER_01:Which, like, seeing Jojo is the LA thing. No, no, no.
SPEAKER_03:And she's like on Broadway. Yeah. And then it changed something for her. My real question is obsessed.
SPEAKER_02:Why would you enter the lottery?
SPEAKER_03:And then Oh, because she's just obsessed with theater. She'll go to the time.
SPEAKER_02:I guess, but you're like entering the lottery, you pay for the ticket. Like a lot of steps for the lottery. Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:But it's all on an app.
SPEAKER_02:It's on a website.
SPEAKER_03:Well, no, her hers is on an app.
SPEAKER_01:I'm not sure. Today's or something?
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, I love today.
SPEAKER_01:I remember the days of having to actually go to the TKTS booth in New York City, stand in line to get the day of tickets. Wow. It was a it was a whole thing.
SPEAKER_02:By the way, you still do that. I did that. I saw that's how I saw Mary Mary Happy Ending. Maybe Happy. That's how I saw Maybe Happy Ending when I was um in New York this last time. Incredible, by the way.
SPEAKER_03:I don't know anything about that.
SPEAKER_02:It's the um, it's about so it was Darren Chris originated the role on Broadway.
SPEAKER_03:And it's not you want Tony for this.
SPEAKER_02:Yes. And it's about um these like former, like they're basically like the robotic helpers, but when they, you know, become older and can't do their job, and they get an the the owners get an upgrade, um, these robots are basically sentient, and so they go and live in this like hotel, um, and they all get their little individual room and they have their chargers and they do their things, and like when they break, they get um new parts. But what happens when the robots break down and there are no parts left?
SPEAKER_00:Uh-huh.
SPEAKER_02:And that's so sad. It's about this Darren Chris character, and he's there and he is super secluded. He doesn't leave his room. Um, and then one day he gets a knock at the door, it's his n uh across the hall neighbor, beautiful woman, robot, and um the woman robot goes, My charger broke. I don't have a charger, I can't get a new one. Can I please use yours? And a love story is more.
SPEAKER_01:Do they talk like robots?
SPEAKER_02:Yeah. I don't have they talk, they sing, and it's from South Korea. The musical's from South Korea, so it's it's very poppy, um, very great. Like the set design's amazing. The it's really it's quite beautiful. Maybe happy ending. Maybe happy ending.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, when I read when we talked about the Tonies and I read that description, I really didn't get all of that from the description, and that does sound better than I feel as the you know, few sentence plot.
SPEAKER_02:It's it's gonna be touring. Oh they announced a tour. Hell yeah. You know what? Hell yeah. But it did have some controversy recently. Why? Because Darren Chris left and they were playing. It's very, mind you, it came from South Korea. Very like it's a show. Asian Americans, Asian people in general do not have a lot of representation on Broadway. Oh, yeah. Leah Salonga is the only one. Exactly. I'm just kidding, she's not. Uh, but Darren Chris like famously like originated this, you know, Asian role, beautiful time. Um, and a lot of Asian actors were like, this is the show that I could actually like be a lead in Broadway. And then he was replaced with Andrew Bartheldman. Oh, and I don't know that, but is he white? He's he's uh the guy from you know the the movie with Jennifer Lawrence where she um she watches she basically like starts dating this like 18-year-old to lose like get him to lose his virginity. That's the 18-year-old, Andrew Barth Feldman. Incredibly talented performer, so good, would be great for 98% of the roles on Broadway, but like everyone in the Asian American community was like, This is our one role, and this now sets a precedent that anybody can play it, which you know is the musical, by the way, takes place in South Korea. Yeah, like they're South Korean robots, I get it, but also it's like he didn't, yeah.
SPEAKER_01:There's other roles for him, they didn't need to do them. Yeah, it did not.
SPEAKER_03:Okay, I'm sorry I diverted us to musical theater hour. Well, back to Wicked, more musical theater.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, Wicked. You went last night. What were your thoughts? Give us some inside scoop.
SPEAKER_02:Um, I love Wicked. For context, Wicked, um, when I was three years old, my mom took me to a Barnes and Noble and she said you can pick anything you want, and I um picked up. Oh, yeah, the Wicked soundtrack. And because that was back when Barnes and Noble had more music. They still do, but you could like go in and listen button and listen on the little headphones. Old. And um, and I I bought the Wicked soundtrack, I listened to it every single day. Um, and I feel like this was so many of our stories. Of course, right? Like listened to it every single day, knew every song word for word, loved it so much. I sang one short day alone at my fourth grade talent show.
SPEAKER_01:I love that that's the one you showed. Imagine you're like sentimental man, is what I'm saying.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, wonderful. Yeah. Uh, and and so I loved Wicked, and I saw it last year, and I like the second the overture played in the movie, I was like in hysterics. Like it was just that kind of movie. Um, and you know, it's funny, like when I think of Wicked, I really think of Act One. And that became so clear to me when I sat down in the seat to watch part two.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:And I think they did a great job. Like, they really did.
SPEAKER_03:Do you like the two new songs? Because I'm stoked.
SPEAKER_02:Have you heard them?
SPEAKER_03:I heard this the clips on the one wonderful night, the wicked one wonderful night. They played like two clips. Right.
SPEAKER_02:Sure. So here's what I'll say about the new music. The one thing that Wicked Act Two did not need were two more ballads.
SPEAKER_03:But you know why. Why they wanted to get an Oscar nom.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah. Sure, but I and I think that they will, but this is also the year of K-pop demon hunters.
SPEAKER_03:No, you're right. But I called this when the first one came out. I was like, they're gonna put original music in the second one and get an Oscar nom.
SPEAKER_02:Of course. Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:But like one of those songs could have been like the one that Alpha Bus sings, I thought it sounded like no, must have just showed us the end buildup in the clip.
SPEAKER_02:And that that song, by the way, like you can easily retool it to be like a fun number. Yeah. Um, and they didn't. And it was very much so hearse planted singing.
SPEAKER_03:Wow.
SPEAKER_02:Um, and like, can I can I spoil a little thing?
SPEAKER_03:It's not really like I have a spoiler question I want to ask.
SPEAKER_02:So sure. The the other thing is like, you know how they like originate everything from the Wizard of Oz, like the whole thing is an origin. So Elphaba's song is no place like home.
SPEAKER_03:Right.
SPEAKER_02:And and the context of the song, because the movie will have been out for multiple weeks by the time this airs, right? Can I say that?
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_02:Um, is you know, she's singing, trying to persuade all of the animals not to flee Oz.
SPEAKER_00:Oh, okay.
SPEAKER_02:And that's the context in which the song is. Is she's like, You guys, there's no place like home. This is our home. We all need to stay here. Right. But this is such an iconic thing of Dorothy tapping her feet going, There's no place like home. So during that song, I kept thinking, How is it gonna get to Dorothy? Yeah. How is this message gonna get to Dorothy?
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:I was like, maybe it'll come through the cowardly lion, right? Yeah, never does. And I was like, What a missed opportunity! Yeah, like they have this like really cool moment where like the cowardly lion could have overheard it, and then maybe maybe that's his mantra that he says when he gets anxious. Oh, and then like Dorothy, right? And like maybe that's how that comes to be, and they just never do anything with it. I'm like, you got 80% of the way there.
SPEAKER_01:They're in it, right? Dorothy, the Dorothy, Scarecrow, Caroline Iron, they're all well, you know the story. No, they're in, but they're in the movie.
SPEAKER_02:Very much so, very much so, like in the musical. Okay. Except, except you do see more of the Tin Man. Oh, because of who it is. Because, yeah. Like the origin, the origin plays out in a really, really, really cool way.
SPEAKER_03:For all of them. Uh I guess Tin Man and Scarecrow, like in a cool way.
SPEAKER_02:There were a couple of directing choice, like, for example, like during No Good Deed, you see the the Fiero getting his shit rocked, right? Yeah, don't say it. But it's it, it the way that it's shot feels very student film.
SPEAKER_03:Really?
SPEAKER_02:In a weird, in a way that just took me out a little bit. And like, maybe I'm in the minority there. Maybe you guys won't feel that way. But it was like they put a filter on it, and it's just like feel it doesn't feel epic. It feels like like it was very much so shot like this, and like they just didn't have they didn't have people they wanted to pay, so they just like had extras come in, and it was just like it was shot a little bizarre. However, the rest of No Good Deed was a masterpiece. Okay.
SPEAKER_01:So you think part one was better, it seems.
SPEAKER_02:I think part one is wicked.
SPEAKER_01:Oh so I am in of the camp that I didn't think there needed to be two movies. I think that it took way too long to get to the point in the first movie. I love it, I think it's beautiful and like I had a great time watching it, but because I've seen the stage play so many times, and it's like we get the whole story in two hours versus only act one in two hours. More than that. I don't, it's like almost three, right?
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:I was just like, I would have rather had it be the cadence, but I understand. Is the second one just as long?
SPEAKER_02:It's like two hours and fifteen. Okay. Maybe I don't know. It's a good question. That's what it was. It was no, it's like two and a half.
SPEAKER_03:I thought it was three, and that's why it was so like what?
SPEAKER_02:It's like two and a half. It it's the fur because I remember them saying the the first movie is the length of the musical, which is two and a half hours.
SPEAKER_01:Okay, it just was like, I feel like we can we can speed it up a little.
SPEAKER_02:They added some cool stuff. Like they they did like a lot of the like the it's really funny. Wicked part two is very much so takedown fascism, the movie. Um and I feel like they they fleshed out the arcs more, like Glinda's arc in part two is very clear.
SPEAKER_03:Whereas I do that's nice, they do speed it so fast in musical.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, I get that.
SPEAKER_02:Because I think they're I think she's gonna win the Oscar. Like, I really do. They're gonna push for Ari to win the Oscar this year. And I could see it happening.
SPEAKER_03:I have a spoiler question I want to ask if you're open to hearing. Yeah, just who plays Dorothy. Like, if it's known, I don't know yet. And I'm so curious if it's someone we know.
SPEAKER_02:They've actually said this in in the press run. They don't show Dorothy's face.
SPEAKER_03:They never do, they never show Dorothy's face. So they left it ambiguous on purpose.
SPEAKER_01:In my mind, I thought I thought that she was gonna be such a much bigger part than what we thought. So that's it.
SPEAKER_03:I thought it was gonna be Doug Cameron for sure.
SPEAKER_02:That's crazy. Really? I I thought it was gonna be um, I was really buying into the theory that it was gonna be the girl who played Abigail. Matilda. Yeah, and Matilda, same girl, Alicia Ware. Yeah. Yeah. Um, I was really buying into that theory. And it could have been. I like it's definitely she's in the credits for sure. But there's it's funny, during March of the Witch Hunters.
SPEAKER_03:She's in the credits?
SPEAKER_02:I'm su I didn't stay for the credits. Oh, because it's her body playing her? Somebody, like, there is a body.
SPEAKER_03:But just never show the face.
SPEAKER_02:Never show the face. But there's even a moment in March of the Witch Hunters where you see the four of them standing there, but there's a guy standing so that it's just covering her face. Like they do really make it clear that they're not gonna show Dorothy's face. I kind of wish I was looking forward to that. What kills me though is it's like I think if anything, them showing more of Dorothy and humanizing Dorothy, like the movie makes it explicitly clear that Oh, they don't want you to think about Dorothy, do they? No, because here's the problem, and and here's what you get, right? The movie becomes explicitly clear that Dorothy is a pawn.
SPEAKER_00:Got it.
SPEAKER_02:Right? And so technically you're like manipulating this, like what 12-year-old girl? Yeah, 13-year-old girl. And so if you give her personalization, it becomes sad because she's manipulated and she thinks she's a hero, and the whole time she's just really a pawn in the wizard's games. Okay, okay. So that makes sense. Even up to the end when you know the the whole thing plays out with we all know the ending of The Wizard of Oz. When that happens in the musical, it's like she comes in, she like barrels into the tower, she's like, I did it. And that's not like you know, you're the audience member watching through Glinda's POV, right? Yep. And um, and it's you know, it's crazy.
SPEAKER_01:Were you at a screening where there were celebs?
SPEAKER_02:No.
SPEAKER_01:Okay, I was gonna say, do you have any celeb sightings that you no not for Wicked? Okay. Well, I don't know when I'm gonna see it, probably after Thanksgiving.
SPEAKER_03:Me too.
SPEAKER_01:Well, can we go together?
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, but I don't want to go to that same hot theater we went to last year.
SPEAKER_01:No, we're not gonna go there.
SPEAKER_03:I was so hot.
SPEAKER_01:And Josh won't go, so we can I have thoughts about that.
SPEAKER_03:I really thought in a year he'd change his mind.
SPEAKER_01:No, but he saw the musical and he thought the musical was better, and he was just like, I'm good.
SPEAKER_02:What made me laugh is I I showed it to a friend of mine named Teddy. Teddy didn't know anything about the musical, and it was really funny because he was getting like frustrated watching it. He was like, It can't, this can't be it. And I was like, I was like, Teddy, you have to keep in mind, right? This is part one, part two. So you have a typical three-act structure, but in this case, you're watching, like, we're halfway through wicked part one, and I was like, we're not even in the second act of the musical yet.
SPEAKER_00:Right.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, this is all still set up, and we're at like one short day.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:And I'm like, this is now when you're pivoting into act two of the three-act structure. But because it's a move, this is like what I think was the biggest hindrance in in the slowness of the whole thing. And I liked, I liked having, you know, two parts. I thought it eventized, I really enjoyed it. But I do get your criticisms as well in that it does drag some things out. Um, and I I do think that you feel that when you're not as familiar with the story. Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_01:I think that's like Josh had didn't know anything going into it. So he was a a little bit like, what, what? Yeah, what's going on? Yeah. But yeah. Okay. Well, I'm excited to see it. So we'll try to think of it. We'll let you we'll text you our please.
SPEAKER_02:I I really I'm trying to think if there's anything else that I want to like throw in there. I think there's just some like, I don't know, it's cool. John M. Chu knows how to throw a wedding. That's all I'm gonna say.
SPEAKER_03:Oh, yeah, he did a Crazy Rich Asians, right?
SPEAKER_01:Crazy Rich Asians wedding, and now that wedding was wild. Did he do that one movie? Um with the like four hello, with the that the four girls and they go to Korea. Oh no, he didn't know. No, you know what I'm talking about.
SPEAKER_03:Joyride, joyride ride.
SPEAKER_02:I love joy rides.
SPEAKER_03:I cannot wait to see what he does with a Britney Spears biopic.
SPEAKER_02:Is he doing the Britney Spears biopic? Yes. Wow.
SPEAKER_03:It's gonna be amazing.
SPEAKER_02:As long as she has some sort of say, I'm so tired of these women getting their stories spoken for, especially from American.
SPEAKER_03:Well, they're basing it off her book. He's basing it off, it's like a book.
SPEAKER_02:Okay, then good. Then I hope that she does have her memoir.
SPEAKER_03:And who did we see that we talked about this? Oh, Addison Ray is like the early rumors. There's no way. I know it can't be. There's no way I'd rather it be Tate, but Tate for the Did she act? I can't imagine because she's so bad at it.
SPEAKER_02:You guys, they're gonna find somebody good. They're gonna find like how Julia Garner is Madonna.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:Exactly.
SPEAKER_01:I don't care.
SPEAKER_03:Maybe it's a no one as they're good. Find a no one that has to look.
SPEAKER_02:Michael. Look at Michael's biopic. Like that's his nephew, and he's a no one in the entertainment community, and look at how amazing he's doing. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:Like, holy shit.
SPEAKER_01:Well, speaking of icons, who are your like celebrity icons? It could be your pop girls, your your favorite actresses. Who are your like?
SPEAKER_02:I do love Ariana Grande. That's the perfect segue from Wicked. I love Ariana Grande. I think she's amazing. By the way, she did an interview today saying that like the Eternal Sunshine tore is her last her off.
SPEAKER_03:I heard that. It was on the Amy Polar, Amy Polar show.
SPEAKER_01:Because she wants to act or she's just like.
SPEAKER_03:She said I'm never gonna sing never, but probably for a long, long time.
SPEAKER_02:I mean, we all forget that she had a terrorist attack at her concert.
SPEAKER_01:And she just got attacked again, so she's like, I'm done. I'm done.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, that's rough.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, if I were her, like she's just made a crap ton of money on these movies. She will have the tour. I would just like check out.
SPEAKER_03:She also kind of go on the record and say that she wants to do just more straight acting stuff.
SPEAKER_02:And she is.
SPEAKER_03:And she is Falker in Law, American Horror Story and more.
SPEAKER_01:I don't yeah, I don't think it meant she's like gonna go into hiding. She's just like music will be on the side.
SPEAKER_02:She's with music. It was just touring. She'll keep making music. I I don't think she'll tour. No.
SPEAKER_01:I don't think it's a bad thing though, because it will create demand.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, but this tour sold out in 10 seconds. It's not like there's not demand. That's the problem. I I wish she would have played SoFi. I was so mad about it. Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:It's because there is a sports thing happening. We feel I figured it out.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. It's the World Cup.
SPEAKER_03:World Cup. Reschedule. What? Right. Not the World Cup. No, I mean rescheduled to the colour. Rescheduled a tour.
SPEAKER_01:Well, I think, do you think if Katy Perry had waited like 10 years to go on tour, it would go better for her?
SPEAKER_03:No.
SPEAKER_02:I don't think so. Speaking of icons, let's talk not about Katie Perry. I can't. Please don't. I would like to talk about anybody other than Katie Perry. Love you. Um love you, girl. I I honestly bow and yang Matt Matt Rogers icons. Yeah, they're funny.
SPEAKER_03:She got their own awards. They created their own award show. It's so good. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:It's so good. It it just kills me. You know, anytime you can, anytime a gay person can make straight people pay for their dreams. I love that. Well, let's make it happen more.
SPEAKER_03:Amen.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, they're funny. I like them. I would like to go to their next award show.
SPEAKER_02:If they're listening. They are.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, like anything you can think of. Mus music, art. No, I'm trying to think. Um, acting. Are you like do you like K-pop?
SPEAKER_03:Are you like the thing about Dylan is he just like I think you just like pop culture. I do. You go to a lot of shows, you go to a lot of movies, you see a lot of musicals. You're just in it. I do.
SPEAKER_02:I like them. I like them so much.
SPEAKER_01:Um are you not like a stan to like he just saw Lorde in Vegas?
SPEAKER_02:I did, I did, and she was so close. Um, it was amazing.
SPEAKER_03:And you saw Demi.
SPEAKER_02:Demi, oh my god, Demi also so close. Demi Lovato, I feel like, has earned her right to be back in pop culture for sure. She honestly, Demi Lovato's behavior lately icon, and her album's so good, no skips.
SPEAKER_03:No, I've actually I haven't listened to the whole thing, and I was like, oh wow. It's really good.
SPEAKER_01:But I'm really good. And she looks great.
SPEAKER_02:She's like and she's like like the fact that she was Poot Lovato for Halloween when a couple of years ago, like she was so shitting on it. Yeah, it's so good.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, I saw her, she was on Trisha Paytas' podcast.
SPEAKER_02:Another, that was literally the next person I was gonna bring up.
SPEAKER_01:She was like really leaning into you know all of the the fun people poke have poked at her, and I thought she'd handled it well.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, be in on the joke, right? You know what I mean? Be in on the joke. People are making jokes about you because they like you. Yes. You know, people would be mean if they didn't like you. Yeah. But Demi Lelato, Trisha Paytas icon. I love that she's on Broadway, obsessed with her. Zora and Mom Donnie icon. Hell yeah. Love Zora and Mom Donnie. Icon. Um Hilary Duff? Yeah. Actor, actresses? A little before my time.
SPEAKER_03:I guess you're right. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:A little before my time.
SPEAKER_00:It is.
SPEAKER_03:Do you see that they're that they're reselling a ticket at the Wheelchair for$203,000?
SPEAKER_01:Is it front row?
SPEAKER_03:It's general admission.
SPEAKER_01:Oh, wait. That's insane.
SPEAKER_03:The floor is general admission, and this person is reselling for$203,000.
SPEAKER_02:Here's the thing, you guys. If someone's willing to pay for it, someone is, for sure.
SPEAKER_01:Let them pay for it.
SPEAKER_03:I can't ticketmaster just lets that happen.
SPEAKER_02:Because here's the thing. That person, like, here's my thing, right? I'll list my, like, let's say I have Ariana Grande tickets. I'll list them. My price, right? I will be going to this car. Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:Because then in that case, that person was probably like, I'm going to this, but if someone wants to give me two or three thousand dollars, I can be bought, and mine would be lower than that.
SPEAKER_01:Exactly.
SPEAKER_03:That's true.
SPEAKER_01:It kills me.
SPEAKER_03:Funny. Okay, so she's a little before your time.
SPEAKER_02:That's fair.
SPEAKER_01:Actresses.
SPEAKER_02:By the way, I will just let you guys know. I want to see Ariana Grande so badly in LA, like unbearably badly, as by the way, does everybody. But like I'm literally in conversations with the venue to buy a suite.
SPEAKER_03:He is.
SPEAKER_02:For several, several thousands of dollars.
SPEAKER_03:But with the intention of getting everyone to get a bunch of people.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, like I'm like, let's 15 of us go into the suite and pay$1,500 apiece, which is not that much money in the grand scheme of things.
SPEAKER_03:If you can$15 people,$1,500.
SPEAKER_01:It's so cheap. When this is like a thing that I don't scourge on.
SPEAKER_03:Okay, we're talking about it.
SPEAKER_02:$1,500, I can go to Europe. Well, and that was so I had tickets to go see Taylor Swift's Eros Tour. But my my seats were like side stage. Like they were very and I kind of obstructed. So kind of obstructed. So I listed them on Seeky for$2,000 a piece, and somebody bought them. So I because my thought process, right, is I was like, How much did you get them for? Uh 200?
SPEAKER_03:Wow.
SPEAKER_02:And like my thought process was like, you know what? I love Taylor Swift. Lover.$4,000 bought me a summer in Europe. I went to Europe for two months. I went to seven countries and had an experience. Taylor Swift bought me an experience that I will never be able to get again. It's a fun way to look at it.
SPEAKER_03:However, I did spend$2,000. And especially you bought my turns. Did I buy your tourists? And now I'm immortalized in the Aeros Tour movies.
SPEAKER_02:And you know what?
SPEAKER_03:I maybe the documentary.
SPEAKER_02:Amazing.
SPEAKER_03:There's six episodes coming out, and they filmed so much of me and Megan.
SPEAKER_01:I hope it's you.
SPEAKER_02:That would be amazing. Reaction on the pod. But I will say, I saw the Aeros Tour movie twice in theaters. I felt like I was there. I felt like I I felt like I was at one of those so-fi shows.
SPEAKER_01:I'm glad that you're made this experience work for you. To pay that much for a concert ticket. I tried to get the colour. I don't think I could pay more than I mean. Again, I guess like maybe Britney Spears.
SPEAKER_02:Sure. Would you pay$1,500 to see Michael Jackson? Like if Michael Jackson came to the city. If he came back to life. Well, if he was just alive and he was like, Like alive for his era's tour, would you pay$1,500 to see Michael Jackson?
SPEAKER_01:If it was the best seat in the house. Oh, well, it's not gonna be. It would be like$200.
SPEAKER_02:Maybe like$100 level, like if the stage is here, like 100 level, like right here.
SPEAKER_01:I don't think I it's tough. What about the maybe? Yeah. Yeah, maybe. But that's tough.
SPEAKER_03:I would never, I wouldn't even pay$10 for the biggest.
SPEAKER_01:But like realistically, people that are alive, I don't think even like BTS or Britney Spears, I don't think I'd pay more than$400.
SPEAKER_02:I completely agree. Honestly. That like I completely agree. There are a couple of people. Yeah. There are a couple of people, but really it's like Ariana Grande. Like that is like my one. Because she is saying she's not gonna tour again. You don't say that when your tour is fully still.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, because even Hilary Duff was like, okay, I I promise this isn't the these aren't the only shows.
SPEAKER_01:Like she came out and said, She was just being modest to make sure that she didn't look dumb.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, 2000 seat venues, Hillary Duff. Of course you're selling them out.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah. Um but also sometimes they do things like that in order to gauge interest in bigger. And that's what she's saying.
SPEAKER_03:That's probably what she was doing.
SPEAKER_02:That's what Demi did. The palladium show sold out so quick, and now look at her arena tour. Yeah, you're right.
SPEAKER_01:I also think like maybe it's just my the age I've gotten to, but I also think I was like this probably five years ago too. That I it's such a to-do to go to a concert. It's like I have to like get dressed and I want to look cute, and then I have to drive an hour away, and the parking is terrible, and the traffic is terrible, and I'm just like, Yeah, I am exhausted, and then I'm so tired by the time it's over, and then it's another hour to even get out of the parking lot, and then another hour drive home. I sound like a very old lady, but so go ahead, Alex.
SPEAKER_03:I was just gonna say, I would I agree with both of with both of you mostly, except there is like boyfriend and I have talked, and we would spend an obscene amount of money to see Celine if she ever was able to perform again.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, that's right. Go see Titanic.
SPEAKER_03:I do want to see that.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, so I um I completely agree with you. It is a total to-do. What kills me in LA is the parking concert. Yeah, of course. I went to go see Avor Levine at the Kia Forum. Um, great show. I had floor seats, they were like not the best floor seats, but good floor seats, right? Paid like maybe$130,$140 a ticket, which is fair, right? For like a concert like that, you know, especially in this economy. I get to the venue, did not pre-pay for parking. That's tough. You have to do that. Learned the hard way. I get there and they're like, I'm gonna get canceled for saying this. I get there and they're like, parking is gonna be$40. And I went, paid. He goes, Oh no, no, no, it's sold out. I went, okay. And so he goes, Yeah, you're just gonna have to exit. And I was like, Okay. And so I drive forward, and and I was like, where do I park? And he goes, You're gonna have to park at SoFi Stadium. Parking's a hundred dollars. At SoFi? I went a hundred dollars. Literally across the street.
SPEAKER_01:Hey.
unknown:Stanley Park.
SPEAKER_02:I was like, across the street, a hundred dollars. You got me fucked all the fucking way out. Did you just find a parking spot? Well, so I drove forward and the guy's like ushering people, and um I just parked.
SPEAKER_01:I love that. Actually, I just parked amazing.
SPEAKER_02:I love that because the it's highway robbery, so it is. And and my sister-in-law was like, Well, what about if somebody doesn't park? I was like, they paid for parking, they're gonna get a parking spot. Like they're not just not gonna park then.
SPEAKER_03:What are they gonna do? Like, they didn't put a sticker on any of the cars, right?
SPEAKER_02:So they were like, they didn't put a sticker on any cars, exactly. Yeah, and that was my logic. I was like, I parked. And my sister-in-law was like, our car's gonna get towed. What are we gonna do?
SPEAKER_01:That is actually me. I am a rule follower and I would have been stressed about it.
SPEAKER_02:But I have I have like an alert if my car gets broken into, like, I'll get a notification, I'll leave the venue. Yeah, exactly. I'm like, it it is what it is. I want honestly, if it gets towed, I don't know, it's a gamble, I'm willing to do it. Yeah, you were talking about that when you're like, well hundred dollars, four hundred dollars, the walk across the street, don't fucking say anything. Um I just I'm like, you know, I'm into it. Yeah, okay, that's a made off.
SPEAKER_03:Okay. He found the pop chart.
SPEAKER_01:Okay, well, as we move on towards the end, we do this thing called A-List of the Week where we highlight something that we have enjoyed this week.
SPEAKER_03:Could you shout it out or recommend it?
SPEAKER_01:Could be a show, could be a food, could be a person, could could be hello. Drop it. Come here. Um, do you want to go?
SPEAKER_03:Welcome. You have to give me the intro.
SPEAKER_01:Oh, it's time for.
SPEAKER_03:Oh, and then you have to like sing A-list of the week. Can you do it as a guest? Yes, thank you.
SPEAKER_01:It's time for A-list of the week. Ooh. That was great. I liked it.
SPEAKER_03:Thank you, Dylan. Thank you. Uh, my A-list of the week this week is it's officially December 1st, and if your tree isn't up, it better be as of today.
SPEAKER_01:For sure, for sure.
SPEAKER_03:As of today, December 1st.
SPEAKER_02:Well, I'm I'll be in Europe.
SPEAKER_03:You gotta put it up before, so when you come back, Dylan's Christmas tree. You're can you you're gonna put something up in your little hotel?
SPEAKER_01:Oh, yeah. Oh, okay. All right.
SPEAKER_02:I'm in seven different hotel rooms, you guys. I'm not bringing a Christmas tree to Asia.
SPEAKER_01:I love a little paper, okay.
SPEAKER_03:My list of the week is to get your Christmas decor up unless you're traveling to another country.
SPEAKER_02:In that case, iPhone background.
SPEAKER_03:Yes.
SPEAKER_01:Yes. That's your A-list. That's just like a that's a demand, you're making it.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, that's an order.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Okay. He's enjoying Christmas this week.
SPEAKER_03:My A-list of the week is Grimaces here.
SPEAKER_01:Love that. I actually don't have. I do this every time.
SPEAKER_03:Every time she can't think of it. And then she goes, Oh yeah, it's Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:I just gotta think for a second.
SPEAKER_03:Well, Alex.
SPEAKER_02:Do you want me to go next? Yeah, you should go. Um, so I because as you guys know, we're obviously like filming this before December 1st. I have been, um, but this will be pertinent because the week of, I've been re-binging Stranger Things in prep for Stranger Things 5 because I've I never did re-watches throughout. Okay. I only ever did, I know, so sweet. I only ever did um like I would watch the current season and like a recap. So the upside down, who knows what it is? You know what I mean? And so I'm I'm like going through and actually like rebinging Stranger Things right now. I'm on season three. Okay. Um in prep for season five, but I will have watched season five by the time this airs. And um, so my shout out, my A list of the week is um Stranger Things.
SPEAKER_01:That's a gamble. What if it's bad? I don't think it will be. I'm just kidding. I actually stopped after season two, so well, that's fair.
SPEAKER_02:Season three is my favorite season. I what I would honestly do is go, they have a recap that plays, it's like four minutes. Watch the recap for season two and one, and then just start on season three. It's so fun, it's like summery vibes, so it's gonna be nice for like winter. Yeah, it's really good.
SPEAKER_01:Okay.
SPEAKER_03:Excellent A-list of the week rec.
SPEAKER_01:Okay, I have one. I've been wearing the rare beauty perfume with the layering bomb. Yeah, and I'm loving it. I have the pink one. I think that it is like the floral layering bomb. Big fan. And why aren't other people doing this?
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:The layering bomb is so fun.
SPEAKER_02:I just can't. Like, I I love how much positive press she got for being disability inclusive.
SPEAKER_03:Who are we talking about?
SPEAKER_02:Selena Gomez.
SPEAKER_03:Oh, I didn't know that. Is that her brand?
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, it's Rare Beauty. Um, as Trisha Paytas says, did she name it that because of her rare disease?
SPEAKER_00:Trisha.
SPEAKER_02:Which is crazy lupus. Yeah. Um, but yeah, she the the bottle is um, it's like the lid for it is like this, the pump is like this big. And so people that um don't have hands can't, you know, can press down on it. Yeah, fully, and it's um like one of the only I haven't really seen that in a lot of things.
SPEAKER_03:That is so interesting and like amazing that she actually smells good.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, it's really good because Allison smells good.
SPEAKER_01:Oh flaring ball.
SPEAKER_03:Love that.
SPEAKER_01:Okay, something else we do is we shout out the birth the celeb birthdays of today. So today, December 1st, our birthdays are Robert Irwin is 22.
SPEAKER_02:Oh my god, a baby. Shout out Haughty.
SPEAKER_01:He, I hope, as of now, I don't know if it's over or not, but Dancing with the Stars, I want him to win. Same. Zoe Kravitz.
SPEAKER_03:Isn't it down to him in one other person?
SPEAKER_01:No, there's still like four.
unknown:Okay.
SPEAKER_01:Zoe Kravitz is 37. Icon. Um normally, oh nope, not saying that person. Janelle Monet is ther is 40. Icon. Sarah Silverman is 55. All of these are gay icons. This is crazy. Bet Miller is 80. Um K-pop actors, hey. Yeah, I just still don't really know that.
SPEAKER_02:Not K-pop if they're actors, babe. K-pop artists. Uh sorry. Do you know who Sarah Snook is? Yeah, from Succession. She's 38.
SPEAKER_01:I don't know her, but shout out. Phil DeFranco's 40. Love. Do you know Golden Brooks? Nope. Well, she's 55.
SPEAKER_02:Love her.
SPEAKER_01:Okay, and then what entertainment was released today?
SPEAKER_03:In history.
SPEAKER_01:Christmas Vacation, 1989. Oh.
SPEAKER_03:In history, yeah.
SPEAKER_01:In history, yeah. Storage Wars premiered in 2010. Great show. Big fan.
SPEAKER_03:Storage Wars.
SPEAKER_02:Which they still did that.
SPEAKER_01:Literally. Love.
SPEAKER_03:The husband-wife couple. Do you remember them? Brandy and she was like the blonde. They were like the hot couple.
SPEAKER_01:Oh, the the buyers?
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, the buyers love them.
SPEAKER_01:The shape of water. Didn't we just talk about this?
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, because it was his birthday. Doug Jones was in it. Two weeks ago. Yeah. Yeah, Doug Jones.
SPEAKER_01:This came out in 2017. Doug Jones is an actor that went to Ball State. He's in Hocus Pocus. He plays Billy. Oh, love.
SPEAKER_03:He always plays that like tall characters.
SPEAKER_02:Wasn't he just in the news for something?
SPEAKER_01:Oh no. Bad or good? I don't know.
SPEAKER_02:I don't know.
SPEAKER_01:I don't think it was bad. I don't know. I didn't see him.
SPEAKER_03:Anything else fun?
SPEAKER_01:Not really.
unknown:Okay.
SPEAKER_01:Alright, that's it.
SPEAKER_03:Pretty quiet and entertainment.
SPEAKER_01:Okay. Do you want to take us home?
SPEAKER_03:Dylan, thank you so much for being here. Tell the kids where they can find you.
SPEAKER_02:I don't want any kids to find me.
SPEAKER_03:Um after having just talked about Colleen last week's episode, let me try that again. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:Dylan, tell the tell the tell the listeners and viewers where they can find you.
SPEAKER_02:Any adult in the room can find me on um on that sound like all you're gonna say only fans. Nope. Love that. Uh they can find me on Instagram at uh at Dylan Schmall um and at uh TikTok on uh shit. And uh on TikTok at gay and trying.
SPEAKER_01:Guys, and we'll be waiting so uh patiently for your content. Yeah, for your guys' content and for a new season. Fingers crossed. Hoping. Definitely more content on the way for sure.
SPEAKER_02:Hundred percent.
SPEAKER_03:For sure, for sure, for sure.
SPEAKER_01:Okay, well, thank you so much. Please subscribe also to us if you aren't.
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SPEAKER_03:Safe travels to Asia Dill.
SPEAKER_02:I'm hopefully you're there right now. Could you imagine? I'm like dead when this comes out. Oh my god, that's famous.
SPEAKER_01:Okay, goodbye.
