Happy New Year: The Boyfriend Episode

We bring Josh on to clear the air, trace our Hinge origin story, and relive how a rooftop idea became back‑to‑back dodgeball championships. The chat moves from LA rent shock and influencer crosswalks to fantasy book bonds and a spirited Wicked debate.

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Allison Florea

Alex Hinsky

Transcript

Josh Joins And Relationship Banter

SPEAKER_05 0:12

Welcome back to the A-list podcast with Allison and Alex. I'm Allison. He's Alex. And today we have my gorgeous, sexy, hot, nice, talented, athletic boyfriend. Josh.

SPEAKER_01 0:34

It's me. I'm here. I know you guys don't really talk about me that much. So we talk about you actually.

SPEAKER_05 0:42

We do. We actually stopped because you got mad.

SPEAKER_01 0:45

Is that what happened?

SPEAKER_03 0:47

No, it's it we didn't even stop. It's just now you just give preface to it when we're recording. You're like, well, we're talking about Josh.

SPEAKER_05 0:53

I did cut out something that could have been mildly taken the wrong way. So now you've you're in my head.

SPEAKER_01 0:58

And I Oh, that's right. You were spreading lies about me on this fight.

SPEAKER_05 1:01

Oh, yeah. Do you want to clear it up now?

SPEAKER_03 1:03

Oh, that's right. I forgot about it. That's really why we brought you here. Everyone's been wondering and we need to clear the air. Uh yeah. What was it about?

SPEAKER_05 1:09

I actually don't know.

SPEAKER_03 1:10

I'll tell you. So do you remember? I know I remember the the thing that you were worried about when you had me take out. And it wasn't. It wasn't.

SPEAKER_05 1:18

No, it really wasn't anything. No, what you got mad about was that I said we did something at the last minute. Like of course, of course it was at the last minute.

SPEAKER_01 1:27

And Alex immediately agreed.

SPEAKER_03 1:29

Oh, and here, and I I told her I wanted to defend myself because imagine you're we're recording a podcast in conversation and I want to like help contribute. So I'm going, yeah, yeah, sure, sure. It's like what you do.

SPEAKER_01 1:39

Yes.

SPEAKER_03 1:39

It wasn't like that. I was like, I know Josh so well this track.

SPEAKER_01 1:42

That is what it felt like. Okay. And for that, I apologize. And for that, I apologize. Wow, Alex just jumped right in on that. That was that was great.

SPEAKER_05 1:50

But in that, in those line, that line of thinking, he only knows what I tell him. So if before I've been like, we this happened at the last minute, then that's what he knows.

SPEAKER_01 2:01

And so So did you come back and tell me cleared the air. I did. People watched it.

SPEAKER_05 2:06

I did. You apparently didn't listen to that one.

Dodgeball Origins And Championships

SPEAKER_03 2:08

I can't listen to everyone. Well, no, and he was too hurt, I'm sure. He didn't worry.

SPEAKER_01 2:14

I'm going right back to it.

SPEAKER_03 2:16

Um listeners also uh know that you were on we were all on dodgeball team together. Okay. And that you got and congratulations officially. We haven't talked about it officially on being the champions. Oh, thank you so much.

SPEAKER_05 2:27

Two time championships.

SPEAKER_03 2:28

Back-to-back champions.

SPEAKER_01 2:29

Doge say that the hardest thing to do is win back-to-back championships. Is that what they say? Not for us.

SPEAKER_05 2:35

And you know what? Maybe we'll go three times.

SPEAKER_01 2:36

And what if you like want to I do not my dodgeball career is done. We actually owe the championships to you, Alex.

SPEAKER_05 2:44

Yeah, you you started that. By leaving the team.

SPEAKER_01 2:46

On your rooftop. No, no, no. We were on your rooftop, and you were like, Oh I had just met all you people. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You're like, let's show a dodgeball team. And I was like, Well, I'm not doing that. But everybody else was like, every single person we're in. And that's the team.

SPEAKER_05 3:02

Why didn't you want to? Because we we were just so new, you weren't there.

SPEAKER_01 3:05

I didn't know you people. Well, and also it was so impulsive for all of you. Like, I just didn't want to be left out. I actually like yours is FOMO. No. You didn't know that that was going to happen. No, I'm literally like, guys. I made a dodgeball team. Do you want to join? And all of them were like, yes. And I was like, whoa. Yes, that was our first season.

SPEAKER_03 3:25

On House. Beaverhausen. And then we got Josh to sign up season two. Yes.

SPEAKER_05 3:29

I actually didn't want to play at all. I just didn't want to be left out.

SPEAKER_03 3:32

And then it turns out you like it more than I do.

SPEAKER_05 3:34

And then I it turns out I'm really good at dodge. Turns out sporty. Well, I've always been sporty. Sorry.

SPEAKER_02 3:42

My bad. Always sports.

SPEAKER_05 3:43

Speaking of, Josh and I are in the middle of a thing where we're going to have a three-point contest.

unknown 3:48

Okay.

SPEAKER_05 3:48

I bought a basketball for this.

SPEAKER_02 3:50

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 3:51

Because he didn't, neither of us owned one. Do you have a and I've challenged him to a three-point contest because I'm for no real reason.

SPEAKER_01 3:58

No, I know that.

SPEAKER_00 3:59

Where's the hoop? We got a park. There's one.

SPEAKER_05 4:01

There's a park by us.

SPEAKER_00 4:02

Oh, okay, okay.

SPEAKER_05 4:03

I'm sure that I can win. I was a really good shooter.

SPEAKER_00 4:06

Okay.

SPEAKER_05 4:06

And I won the free throw contest.

SPEAKER_00 4:09

Free throw. Free throw.

SPEAKER_05 4:10

I was also a really good outside shooter. I played AAU, okay. I'm I wasn't just, oh, I'm on the seventh grade basketball team.

SPEAKER_02 4:16

What's AAU?

SPEAKER_05 4:18

It's called the Amateur Athletic Union. It's really just like when you play outside of school. Oh, okay. And like you travel. It's like travel ball.

SPEAKER_00 4:25

It's like travel ball, basically.

SPEAKER_01 4:26

Oh, okay, okay, okay.

SPEAKER_05 4:27

So I wasn't just like I'm on the seventh grade team where they let everyone on. Like I had to try out for that. I was traveling.

SPEAKER_01 4:34

I was well, you had to try out for my seventh grade basketball team without a doubt.

SPEAKER_05 4:37

We also had to try out, but it was like most people got on. Is it so much? You had to be really bad.

SPEAKER_03 4:43

Because there wasn't enough ladies?

SPEAKER_05 4:44

No, there was a girls' team. What?

SPEAKER_03 4:47

Like, but that's what I mean. Like there were enough to be able to have to.

SPEAKER_01 4:51

There weren't like 24 girls who were like, yeah, we want to play, so we have to cut.

SPEAKER_05 4:54

I think like some people probably got cut, but it was like you had to be pretty bad.

Three‑Point Challenge And Sports Chatter

SPEAKER_03 4:58

How many people are on a basketball team? Well, I'm sorry. How many people are on the court on a team? Five. Five. It's really only five? That's just five. There's probably like nine or ten minutes.

SPEAKER_01 5:11

When you're at like middle school, no, okay, but a professional NBA team. Yes, there are actual.

SPEAKER_05 5:18

I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 5:18

That's what's like 15 plus one, like there's one exception, something like it's a lot. Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_05 5:22

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 5:23

Amount of actual signed players you can have on the team.

SPEAKER_03 5:26

And that's because there's offense and defense, everyone. So as you know, the number one sports podcast, let me explain basketball to you. There's an offense and a defense. So you have different players who do offense better than defense, I'm sure. Is that true?

SPEAKER_04 5:40

That is true. Okay.

SPEAKER_05 5:41

I mean, yeah. But like you all, there's so little.

SPEAKER_03 5:44

Wait a minute. Oh but in basketball, you offense and defense switches like every second.

SPEAKER_05 5:49

Yeah, I was gonna say, so you kind of have to be good at both in basketball.

SPEAKER_01 5:52

No, actually, you do not have to be good at both. Wait, really? Well, there's so few people on the court. Scottie Pippen. Sure.

SPEAKER_05 6:00

That's a person that played basketball.

SPEAKER_01 6:02

Yes, but he's really good at eating jam. What team was he on? Do you know what team he was on? I think he played Scottie Pippen Jr.

SPEAKER_03 6:09

Well, who's the one that was on Space Jam? That's neither. Neither. So I just so it turns out I know someone who wasn't even in Space Jam.

SPEAKER_01 6:20

Oh wait, no.

SPEAKER_03 6:20

Do you know Michael Jordan?

SPEAKER_05 6:22

Michael Jordan.

SPEAKER_03 6:22

Uh Scottie Pippen was on the same team. He played with Michael Jordan. Oh, so it was the Bulls?

SPEAKER_05 6:29

Yes.

SPEAKER_03 6:29

I know something. Chicago.

SPEAKER_05 6:31

Good job. Speaking of before we started recording, I asked you if you knew what a pacer was.

SPEAKER_03 6:36

Yes, and I said basketball team, which is accurate.

SPEAKER_05 6:39

True, but do you know what it's that means?

SPEAKER_03 6:42

The car that starts the pace for the Indy 500 cars.

SPEAKER_05 6:49

Okay, that is true. That's a pace car, and that is part of it, but there is another thing that it is, which Well, I'm trying to think of the logo.

SPEAKER_03 6:56

The Pacers logo is just like a basketball on fire, isn't it?

SPEAKER_05 6:59

What? Is there a basketball on fire?

SPEAKER_01 7:03

Like a comet? That's that's an old one. There is one with a uh ball in a hand that's like the shape of a pea and an old one that exists, yes. Okay.

SPEAKER_05 7:13

So what you know the the Indianapolis football team?

SPEAKER_01 7:16

The Colts.

SPEAKER_05 7:17

You know what that is?

SPEAKER_03 7:18

A horse.

SPEAKER_05 7:19

A horse. A pacer is also a horse. What?

SPEAKER_03 7:22

Why does Indiana care about horses like that?

SPEAKER_05 7:25

I don't actually know, but both teams are horse related.

SPEAKER_03 7:28

What's a pacer?

SPEAKER_05 7:30

Both things, the the car and a horse.

SPEAKER_03 7:32

I'm sorry. What kind of a horse?

SPEAKER_05 7:34

Oh, I don't know.

SPEAKER_03 7:35

Like a cult is a specific kind of horse. Isn't a cult a baby horse, actually? Yeah, I think so. This is her trivia. Right.

SPEAKER_01 7:42

This is I also do not know the answers.

SPEAKER_05 7:46

A pacer horse is known for its unique lateral gait where it moves both legs on the same side of its body together, offering a smooth, fast ride, historically exemplified via the extinct Nara Ganset pacer, and now prominent in harness racing via the starbred breed, using equipment like okay, it doesn't matter.

SPEAKER_03 8:05

That's enough. Is a colt a baby horse?

SPEAKER_05 8:07

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 8:08

Right. So interesting to name a football team after a baby horse, right?

SPEAKER_05 8:12

Yeah, what if we just called the Indianapolis baby horses?

SPEAKER_03 8:15

And that's essentially what it is.

SPEAKER_05 8:18

Doesn't sound very behind that.

SPEAKER_03 8:20

I feel like they used to be a different team. It wasn't the Colts back back back in the day. I want to say. Oh, the Ravens.

SPEAKER_01 8:27

And they've moved from Baltimore to Indianapolis.

SPEAKER_05 8:29

I was gonna say we were the Indianapolis Baltimore Ravens. The Indianapolis Baltimore Ravens? No.

SPEAKER_01 8:34

They moved the Indianapolis.

SPEAKER_03 8:36

Baltimore Raven baby baby horses.

unknown 8:40

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 8:40

Okay, we're getting carried away on this sports podcast.

SPEAKER_01 8:42

Really? There's so much with the most sports you guys talking about.

SPEAKER_03 8:44

I do want to say also Josh Bean here, that's another first. It's the first straight man we've ever had in the vlog.

SPEAKER_05 8:50

Oh my god.

SPEAKER_01 8:50

Whoa, really?

SPEAKER_03 8:51

Yep.

SPEAKER_01 8:52

I feel very proud.

SPEAKER_03 8:53

Okay, yeah. You should. I mean, it only is right that you're the first straight man on this play. You might and probably will be the last. I well, Allison has like no straight guy friends. Yeah, there's none.

SPEAKER_05 9:02

I have a couple like that I grew up with, but they don't live here.

SPEAKER_03 9:06

Yeah, none of them live here.

SPEAKER_05 9:07

So they're either back home in Indiana or like Chicago or so.

SPEAKER_03 9:12

Yeah, none out here. Do you have you don't have a single well? You're your uh CrossFit coach.

SPEAKER_05 9:17

Yeah.

unknown 9:18

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 9:19

Maybe we'll have him on, but only if he brings his twin dog.

SPEAKER_05 9:22

Yeah, they do have twin dogs. Kujo is his name.

unknown 9:26

Oh.

SPEAKER_05 9:27

So, okay, Josh, you're here.

SPEAKER_03 9:29

Yes, I am.

SPEAKER_05 9:30

And I really appreciate it.

SPEAKER_03 9:31

Yes, thank you, because you are a busy, busy man.

SPEAKER_05 9:33

Let's give the people some background on you yourself and maybe us.

SPEAKER_03 9:37

Well, I love an origin story. Everyone on the pod knows that. I love to know how people know each other. Okay. And so we need your first your origin story.

SPEAKER_01 9:46

My origin story.

SPEAKER_03 9:47

Where were you born? No, no. Just how do we how are you a part of this group? Well, you're dating Allison, so I am dating. I am dating Allison. Are you guys a hinge story?

SPEAKER_05 9:55

We are a hinge story. And honestly, I should try to get a brand deal.

SPEAKER_01 9:58

You should. A success story. A success story. I don't think you've ever, but you like never like talk about it at all. It being hinge.

SPEAKER_05 10:06

I mean, and people ask, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 10:07

Yeah, people ask. Yeah. But then that's as far as it goes. It's like oh, we met on Hinge. And then that's it. And it's like everybody's like, oh, okay. Hinge. I love Hinge. Love's a success story too.

SPEAKER_05 10:16

I think it's romantic because I was so excited to see that someone was from Indiana, but it turns out you didn't actually care about that. So it's less romantic.

SPEAKER_03 10:23

No, that's true.

SPEAKER_05 10:24

That you weren't like, oh my gosh, my Indiana queen.

SPEAKER_03 10:26

When I was on the apps, that was all whenever I would swipe with an Indiana guy. I'm like, that was a thrill to me as well.

SPEAKER_05 10:31

Yeah, I was like, wow, we're meant to be.

SPEAKER_03 10:33

It's like, oh my god, because because there's a there's a relatability to it, I think. It's like there's a there is something that you guys will just connect on at a level that someone else won't just simply because where you're from.

SPEAKER_01 10:43

I will say I do I would get excited if the girl was like in the Midwest. Okay, for sure. Actually made me feel better about the person's like character.

SPEAKER_03 10:52

Totally, and also proximity to your families. That's nice.

SPEAKER_05 10:57

Yeah, we have a great.

SPEAKER_03 10:59

It wasn't like she just.

SPEAKER_05 11:00

But you were like, she's a Midwest girl, so she's probably really nice and courteous and all that checked out.

SPEAKER_03 11:06

Aww, and true.

SPEAKER_05 11:07

Well, uh wait, what was I gonna say?

SPEAKER_03 11:09

Did you think that she would cry so much?

SPEAKER_05 11:12

Literally, you guys, I'm gonna say this. It's embarrassing for me, but I'm gonna say it just for content. That's I'm sorry.

SPEAKER_01 11:22

You don't have to tell this story.

SPEAKER_05 11:24

I will, because it's nothing you didn't do anything. It's literally me just being insane. Um we were coming home from a Christmas party like in the IE, so we were had like an hour and a half drive. And um we drove my car and we had to stop to charge for like five minutes or whatever because our trip was going to put us up.

SPEAKER_03 11:48

It would and the battery left. The battery would it would be the car would have died.

SPEAKER_05 11:51

So it was like you need to go charge somewhere for five minutes and then you can be on your way.

SPEAKER_04 11:56

Okay.

Hinge Story And First Dates

SPEAKER_05 11:56

And I don't know, it just got was getting it got dark, and the I swear to you, I was following the directions, and all of a sudden he was like, You missed your turn, and I was like, There's no way because I've been looking at this amount of miles I have to go, and it was like at eight or something, and then it was at three when he said that, and I was like, There's no way I missed this turn because it's not it could not have been enough time.

SPEAKER_03 12:27

No, okay, okay anyway.

SPEAKER_05 12:28

I missed the turn, we had to like turn around and go so we could get to the charger. And then we charge, we're leaving. So that was like the first thing that I was annoyed at myself because I was like, How in the world did I do this?

SPEAKER_02 12:41

Oh, so it's starting to build up. One more thing goes wrong and that's it. Absolutely.

SPEAKER_05 12:45

Yes. And then as we're driving after we charge for the few minutes, and I almost miss another thing because it was like a almost. Yeah, it was like a fork.

SPEAKER_01 13:00

There was a fork in the road. I was like, you need to go over it.

SPEAKER_05 13:04

It was a fork in the road, and it was kind of like on the map, one of those things where it's like the the thing moving was so close, and it's like, which side is it actually on?

SPEAKER_03 13:13

I do know what you're talking about, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 13:14

Whatever. So at the last minute, I like literally was pretty dangerous maneuver that I did. Okay. Like I was past where the exit was going.

SPEAKER_01 13:24

But that would have saved us.

SPEAKER_05 13:26

I guess. But I I think I had so so he said, We need to be over there. I make a a pretty bold move to be in the right lane. And it was like there's a guardrail right facing us that we could have hit. Not we weren't like that close, but it was like it was a little so I had a little bit of adrenaline because I made a crazy move.

SPEAKER_04 13:49

Oh, crazy.

SPEAKER_05 13:50

And he was like, Are you okay? Like, what's going on? Because I was not driving in the best way.

SPEAKER_02 14:00

That too back to back like that.

SPEAKER_05 14:02

I don't know. I guess I was just embarrassed, or I was just like stressed at myself and anxious. All the emotions came up and I just started crying.

SPEAKER_01 14:09

Yes. And I was like, What happened? I was like, well, like, we're good. We just turn around, we go back. Yeah, no big deal. And I had to take some responsibility. It was my birthday. My uncle had called and I was on the phone with him, so I wasn't able to be also navigating. And it was great.

SPEAKER_03 14:25

Oh, do you usually assist with that?

SPEAKER_01 14:27

I usually drive. Oh, got it. Okay. I usually drive.

SPEAKER_05 14:31

But when we go further than an hour, it's tough on my um car sickness. Oh, okay. So when we go we go that far, I usually I I'll either try to make it and then if I start getting sick, then we will switch and I'll drive the rest of the way. I took a preemptive one. And I had to finish editing in the car and upload.

SPEAKER_03 14:52

So too many factors. I know.

SPEAKER_05 14:54

So the Zophrin didn't work. Because I was like, I'm gonna have to immediately upload the blog in the car. I know I'm gonna be looking at the computer. I'm gonna take a Zophrin.

SPEAKER_02 15:02

Yeah, yeah, that was smart. That was smart.

SPEAKER_05 15:04

So yeah, I don't know. Wait, back to the question. Did you think that I was gonna cry as much?

SPEAKER_01 15:09

No, absolutely not. She couldn't have predicted the amount of times.

SPEAKER_03 15:15

She is an exceptional crier. It is for any and all occasions and never just for sadness. So I think it's you know, it keeps you on your toes.

SPEAKER_01 15:23

It definitely keeps you on toes. Like I said, when it happened, I was like, what just happened? We we're good.

SPEAKER_05 15:26

Like we're just I just needed a minute and then it was fine.

SPEAKER_01 15:30

And it was like, yeah, it was fine.

SPEAKER_05 15:32

I feel like I don't really like ruin the night.

SPEAKER_01 15:34

You don't ever ruin the night. Like, no, she bounces back.

SPEAKER_05 15:37

I like it.

SPEAKER_03 15:38

I think it's truly when like you're very anxious about something and then it's done, it's that release.

SPEAKER_05 15:42

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 15:42

Because like anytime we've had tough conversations, it's always it's always fine. But then at the end, then you have to let it go.

SPEAKER_05 15:48

Oh, I cry in every conversation.

SPEAKER_03 15:50

Well, yeah, with him.

SPEAKER_05 15:51

I think with him, whenever it's like a serious conversation, I'm always crying. And it's like, I'm not, this is not, you're not making me cry right now. If you didn't do anything, it's me. Like, I just like don't know how to have a serious conversation without my eyes watering. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 16:05

Yeah. But it's always tough when you're trying to have a conversation with other person crying. You're like, I have to get her to stop crying. Right, right, right.

SPEAKER_05 16:12

Okay. Well, if anyone has any tips, I'm already I'm already on an SSRI, so I don't really know how to do it.

SPEAKER_01 16:20

Um Okay, sorry, origin story. That was quite the sidetrack. That was. Oh my gosh. Okay, origin story. And what what do we what do we met?

SPEAKER_03 16:28

Okay, so we met on Hinge. You guys have been together for a year and a half? Year and a half. About a year and a half. A year and a half. Um, I was gonna say the first date.

SPEAKER_05 16:37

The it is kind of weird that we met on Hinge because very early in this podcast, we had a whole episode where it was me going through my hinge.

SPEAKER_03 16:47

Yes, and I and you were changing prompts.

SPEAKER_05 16:50

He I wasn't on there, probably not. He recorded a prompt for me on Hinge that was like, why dating out what what's it like to date, Allison? Or like why you should date me. Because I think it was a new prompt that had come out on Hinge that was like say something, yeah. Yeah, and he did that for me.

SPEAKER_03 17:10

I did. So I'm responsible for this. Thank you.

SPEAKER_05 17:15

Wow, but yeah, we had a whole episode where it was like my Hinge profile. So that it's a full circle that that's how we met.

SPEAKER_03 17:24

Yeah. And ever since she let everyone know that she's taken, we've lost listeners.

SPEAKER_05 17:28

So guys are girls.

SPEAKER_03 17:31

Guys are girls.

SPEAKER_05 17:32

Shout out to the guy that Little Girls?

SPEAKER_01 17:34

Little girls love.

SPEAKER_05 17:36

But shout out to the guy that stopped calling in and leaving messages. I'm really sorry that I am in love.

SPEAKER_01 17:41

And oh, did he stop as soon as literally as soon as it was official?

SPEAKER_05 17:50

If you're still listening, we still do appreciate you.

SPEAKER_03 17:52

Send us a speak pipe. Let us know.

SPEAKER_05 17:56

And maybe I'm being narcissistic. Maybe it wasn't about that at all.

SPEAKER_01 18:00

No, no, no. I think it probably that's what I can. Yeah, I can imagine.

SPEAKER_05 18:04

Um our second date was to watch the Pacers play the Knicks.

SPEAKER_01 18:09

Skip the first date. Well, for I was you don't like the restaurant that I took you to. Oh, you didn't?

SPEAKER_05 18:16

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 18:18

Oh, I don't even know this. So when I She recently told me this. This is I I recently learned this.

SPEAKER_05 18:23

I think we should go back and I should just give it another shot because I was just so nervous. Our first day we went to Lala.

SPEAKER_03 18:30

Oh, okay. Lala's good. Lala's good.

SPEAKER_05 18:33

I was just so nervous that, like I ordered like.

SPEAKER_01 18:41

No, she wasn't, she wasn't doing anything like that. I wouldn't have to be a good one. No, it was all in my head. It was all anxiety.

SPEAKER_05 18:46

It was all anxiety. That would have been like a lot.

SPEAKER_01 18:52

It would have been so nice to meet you. I'm so glad I'm gonna take you back home.

SPEAKER_05 18:57

Um, I will say that he picked me up, which no one had ever done before, and I did I was scared he was gonna kill me.

SPEAKER_01 19:05

For one. For one. But the trick, do you know? Have you told them the trick? Do you know the trick?

SPEAKER_05 19:09

Well, no, I think it's probably they can figure it out, but you can say we don't I don't have to.

SPEAKER_01 19:13

I don't know, I don't know if they know your audience, but they want to know. If you pick a girl up on the first date, you know where she lives. You have to take her home. That's right. So the chances of having sex with this woman goes up because you have to go to her house to take her home.

SPEAKER_05 19:33

Which didn't happen.

SPEAKER_01 19:36

It did not happen.

SPEAKER_05 19:37

I set a it did not happen. I said a chances are always higher.

SPEAKER_01 19:41

You're right, you're right, you're right. The odds were in your favor. Odds become more in my favor.

SPEAKER_05 19:45

Yeah. So it's like if someone knows where you live, then they can kill you easier, more easily.

SPEAKER_01 19:50

I'm not about to kill anybody.

SPEAKER_05 19:52

Yeah, no, you're not, but someone might. So I did think twice about it.

SPEAKER_03 19:56

No, you did not meet Macy.

SPEAKER_05 19:59

He did not. And so he doesn't get it, and that's fine.

SPEAKER_03 20:02

I don't.

SPEAKER_05 20:03

He doesn't get he doesn't get Macy.

SPEAKER_03 20:06

That's okay.

SPEAKER_05 20:07

He doesn't get the It's okay.

SPEAKER_03 20:11

It's okay. He doesn't have to get it. It's okay. Macy wasn't his burden to bear.

SPEAKER_01 20:20

She was for us. And I just I feel sorry about it. I feel very sad for her and I miss and I'm sad that she misses Macy as well.

SPEAKER_03 20:30

I loved Macy and Stanley has never gotten along better with a dog. He loved Macy too, and that was always nice. We always knew that they were together.

unknown 20:39

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 20:40

But no, he did not. Um was I gonna say? Oh, so yeah, the first day we went to Lala. I was very nervous. The food, I think I was just overwhelmed by the menu. I just got some rice and chicken dish.

SPEAKER_01 20:52

And I just don't really become her staple when we go out. It's clean, it's easy.

SPEAKER_05 20:59

Yeah, it's like you can't really go wrong. But if I'm gonna go to like a Mexican restaurant, like chicken and rice is like, yeah. Um, but I just like don't think that that.

SPEAKER_01 21:08

No. Oh my goodness. We'll update. We'll update, but okay, we'll just sorry, yes. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 21:12

I just don't think it was maybe the right dish. Okay. And I it was so much, also, too. And I was like, I'm so nervous, I can barely eat. This is so much here. So I had then it had to be taken. It was a whole thing. Well, then we went to Dave and Buster's. We had a great time.

SPEAKER_03 21:30

Okay, yeah. Hard to have a bad time there.

SPEAKER_01 21:32

It is true, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 21:34

Just ran into like a friend of his and we did some like nice.

SPEAKER_01 21:38

Like played a racing game. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 21:40

We like did a lot of people watching and drinking. Yeah. As you do.

SPEAKER_03 21:46

Yeah, what's it? You know what? Dave and Busters is nice real quick because it's so loud and so much is going on that there it leaves very little room for any awkwardness. No, you gotta like, we're doing this, you're doing that, we're doing this. Okay, let's go get a drink.

LA Moves, Road Trips, And City Changes

SPEAKER_05 21:57

Yeah, I don't think we've really had awkwardness, but it would have been yeah, just in like a normal sense, but um and then Where was your second date? We went to Thirsty Merchant and watched the Knicks play the Pacers because we hadn't talked in a minute and I he no, I responded to a story of his because she slid into my DMs. I did. I slid into his DMs because the Pacers and the Knicks were in the playoffs. Oh and he I just like talked a little shit about it, and it was that that had been game one, and so he asked me if I wanted to go watch game two with him. And we were at that bar for like seven hours. Like it was a full workday.

SPEAKER_01 22:39

It totally was because we watched the game, we played Cornhole.

SPEAKER_05 22:43

Game is two hours long. Okay, then we watched karaoke, then we played Cornhole. I feel like okay, maybe five.

SPEAKER_01 22:52

But it felt it's five's probably more appropriate. Long time. I'm an old man.

SPEAKER_03 22:57

My first day with Chad was four and a half, almost five hours. That's a good day. That's a good day. Well, we literally just we went to a well, we just went to a he was sober that month, so we had mocktails and food at Ivory, which is right by where we went for this that 420 event this year, that parking lot by the and then we went to the the weed lounge. Oh yeah, and we had like a an edible drink in this really cool lounge and just talked and talked about the one that is in that thing. Okay, second date.

SPEAKER_05 23:34

Second date, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 23:35

We watched the basketball game, and then from there, and I'm not gonna give away your addresses, but you guys live comically close. Insanely close. And it's really convenient.

SPEAKER_05 23:44

That honestly probably was like a it helps.

SPEAKER_01 23:47

It 100% helps everything. Um I talk to friends and they're like, yeah, 45 minutes away, and I'm like, that sucks. Like that really sucks. I have four minutes. Okay, I was gonna say it's like a walk by the way. It's a quick walk, but it's yeah, it's a very quick drive.

SPEAKER_05 24:00

Yeah, sometimes I will just like go on a walk and it takes me like 15 minutes.

SPEAKER_03 24:03

That's what I think twenty. It's actually really like that part is really nice. So this ties into the Mexican restaurant because that was your guys' local watering hole.

SPEAKER_01 24:11

Yes, that was that was my local watering hole. And then we started dating Allison. I brought her along, it took her a little time, but what is it? It's like taco. There's Mondays is just half of everything, half of it. The entire drink, including alcohol. And they'll give you drinks to go. So now$16 drinks are eight bucks, and we're talking about legitimate like margaritas really real drink. So it's perfect for Monday, right?

SPEAKER_05 24:32

Yeah, the problem is it used to also be on carryout. So that was his normal Monday thing before we even met.

SPEAKER_01 24:38

Get home from work, yeah, stop there, get dinner, boom, go home. Yeah, easy. And then we used to start going in and a couple times. We would do takeout too, but then we start kind of going in a couple times. We met, we talked with uh the hostess who no longer works there. No, and she just like disappeared. Yeah, her name was Miriam, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 24:58

She was like, Literally, we would I would go in and to pick, she would know it was him that ordered. I would go in.

SPEAKER_01 25:03

I used to order the exact same thing every week. So eventually they were like, Oh, we know who this is.

SPEAKER_05 25:10

And yeah, I would go in and she would be like, and she would then recognize me and she'd be like, Are you picking up for you and Josh? And then we would chat, and then one day she literally disappeared.

SPEAKER_01 25:19

And it's so then the people there tried to act like they didn't know.

SPEAKER_05 25:23

Oh my god, yeah, we asked about her, and the guy was like, I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 25:25

She asked about her. She's been I've been going there for like four years. Yeah, okay. Like, I'm like, where is this lady who's been here every week that we have been here?

SPEAKER_05 25:32

They're like, The guy we asked has also been there for a while. Like we recognize him. Like, this man has also been served.

SPEAKER_01 25:39

Did you ever get an answer? Do we need to look for her? No.

SPEAKER_05 25:42

No.

SPEAKER_01 25:42

No, we don't. Okay.

SPEAKER_05 25:44

I assume that she doesn't live in the country anymore. Is my I think she probably went home. Okay. Which is fair.

SPEAKER_03 25:51

And so out of protest, you don't go there anymore?

SPEAKER_05 25:53

No, we do.

SPEAKER_01 25:54

Oh, okay. No, no, no. Yeah, we definitely still can't do that.

SPEAKER_05 25:58

But it is we go less now because of the the takeout isn't half off, so it doesn't always align with his.

SPEAKER_01 26:08

That's a bummer.

SPEAKER_05 26:09

I think we'll probably go this coming Monday though.

SPEAKER_01 26:14

They're just like, no, not this Monday. What?

unknown 26:16

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 26:17

It's capitalism.

SPEAKER_02 26:18

Okay, yeah, I guess that's how it is.

SPEAKER_05 26:20

If it's like single de Mayo, or if it's like a a holiday, they'll just be like, nah.

SPEAKER_01 26:26

Okay. All right. It's how it is. Yeah. So yeah. So we're there lesson last night. Okay.

SPEAKER_03 26:33

Still cute. Yes. Is it but because it was between your homes? It was.

SPEAKER_05 26:37

It is. Yes.

SPEAKER_03 26:38

Can't write this stuff.

SPEAKER_05 26:40

You know where we can't go that's also in between our homes because he doesn't like it is iHop.

SPEAKER_01 26:45

Why? Wait, whoa. What that face? Why don't you like iHop?

SPEAKER_03 26:48

It's um not good. Oh, okay. Just Denny's IHOP. Where are you going? Neither. Okay, if you had to go. No, I would just go to a diner. No. Denny's or iHop. You must choose. Only exit on the highway. You have to go left or right, Denny's or iHop? It's iHop.

SPEAKER_05 27:04

Oh.

SPEAKER_03 27:04

Okay, that's all I need to know. Okay.

SPEAKER_05 27:05

Oh, I would go to Denny's.

SPEAKER_03 27:07

That's that Denny's is worse. I would go to iHop only because I do think their pancakes taste better. They do. They're do their pancakes do taste better.

SPEAKER_05 27:14

Well they are the international house of.

SPEAKER_01 27:16

And as they must. Where as a kid, I was always an original House of Pancakes kid. What's that?

SPEAKER_05 27:23

What's that?

SPEAKER_01 27:24

Oh hop? Well, yes. Like literally. Is that an Indianapolis? And Gary? That is in Indianapolis.

SPEAKER_05 27:30

Never heard of that in my life.

SPEAKER_01 27:32

You ne what? Is this a bin?

SPEAKER_05 27:35

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 27:36

This is real. Look it up. The original House of Pancakes. It is literally the same thing. It's the same thing. It's the same thing. Wait, what's the O stand for again? The original. Original. Oh, the original House of Pancakes. I think I might have seen this logo, the the original, like I have no clue if they're actually if they're actually a simple website. Are they still in business?

SPEAKER_03 28:01

Um that is what I love. You get sausage wrapped in a pancake, and that is delicious. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 28:10

You can I can make that for you.

SPEAKER_03 28:12

Well, iHop does. I mean, but yes, please. McDonald's pancakes are better than Denny's. That is actually very true. I want more than anything in this world for McDonald's to release a candle line, and I want them to release the pancake candle. Because that smells.

SPEAKER_05 28:26

They don't have that like plate that you used to be able to get, right?

SPEAKER_01 28:29

What?

SPEAKER_03 28:29

Do they still have it? There's no way they still serve it on that plate.

SPEAKER_05 28:31

Oh, I loved that plate. The styrofoam.

SPEAKER_03 28:33

Yeah, the styrofoam. There's no way they still feel it. Yeah. No, they definitely don't. But the smell of a McDonald's pancake, there's nothing like this.

SPEAKER_01 28:40

It just gave you happiness. You're like, I'm about to eat one of the best things I've never seen.

SPEAKER_05 28:44

Yeah, we would stop when we would drive down to Disney World. We would stop and get McDonald's breakfast.

SPEAKER_03 28:49

Did you guys ever do the Burger King breakfast, the mini cinnamons? Which would have been one of the show. That was like on on the way to school. Get those. Well, I was homeschooled, but loser. Whoa.

SPEAKER_05 29:01

So you guys moved to LA sort of around the same time. Josh went to college in Florida and then went, moved to New York for a handful of years. I did.

SPEAKER_01 29:11

Live there for four years. Yeah. Wow. Which I'm very jealous of. Nice. Yep. Best city in the world. Yeah. Live in a lot of cities. Best city in the world. Still think that. Still think that. Do you prefer the weather here? I prefer everything here. Oh, got it. Okay. But the city is better than everything. Got it. The city is better. Okay, okay. Yes. The people are better. The vibe is better. But here, I would only live here. Okay, okay. That's understood.

SPEAKER_05 29:35

Alex has not been to New York yet, and I never him too.

SPEAKER_03 29:39

Never. Yeah. You gotta get on that. I know. I really do. I was supposed to go for the wicked premiere from work they were gonna send us. And then at the last minute, they were like, eh, seems too expensive. And I was like, huh.

SPEAKER_01 29:49

It sounds like it would be expensive. Yeah, and it would have been. It would have been. Um when what year did you move to LA? 2013, December, 2013.

unknown 29:57

Okay.

SPEAKER_05 29:58

You were 2008 or nine?

SPEAKER_01 29:59

10.

unknown 30:00

Oh.

SPEAKER_01 30:00

2010. Just kidding. Uh he's got some years on me.

SPEAKER_03 30:03

September of 10, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 30:05

I was one of my questions here.

SPEAKER_03 30:06

What's your graduation year? College. 2000. Uh that's why we'll figure out your age. 2005. Oh, okay. Oh, you're my sister's age. Okay. Okay.

SPEAKER_01 30:14

I could just say it. 36. Oh, eighty. Two two days ago. 87? 87. Yep. Best year ever. I mean, I do really like my sister.

SPEAKER_03 30:28

Best year.

SPEAKER_05 30:28

I think 90 is pretty good. It's a nice hole.

SPEAKER_03 30:30

90 is good, but you know what? 87 got? They just got a couple more years of like the best part of everything. Like the teen years. Just right. Early 2000s. Like good. Yeah. Yes.

SPEAKER_05 30:42

That's fair. That's fair.

SPEAKER_03 30:43

But I do like 90 because it really makes math really easy. It does.

SPEAKER_05 30:46

It really does.

SPEAKER_03 30:47

You know?

SPEAKER_01 30:47

My brother was born in 1990. It does make it extremely easy. I was going to ask. Oh, you have a brother and a sister, right? Brother and sister. Older sister, younger brother. Yeah. You're the middle guy. I'm the middle guy, which is traditionally the middle.

SPEAKER_05 30:57

Do you like being the middle guy?

SPEAKER_01 30:58

Is that what it is? I thought it was traditionally like the scariest. I think somewhere, somewhere you guys tried to flip that. Oh yeah. Okay. We were so good. We were so good that you guys were like, we gotta turn that around. So um I've always been.

SPEAKER_05 31:10

Well, as a youngest, I know that I know the benefits that I got as a youngest.

SPEAKER_01 31:15

Well, you don't there's no middle though. It's just you and your one sister. So you don't have the third one. Now I will say my mom was also a middle child, and she is the one who told me how great the middle child is.

SPEAKER_05 31:27

So maybe she's biased.

SPEAKER_01 31:28

So maybe she so as I've gotten to be an adult, I'm like, oh, maybe my mom. She just tried to make you feel better. Yeah. Guess what? Guess what? It worked. It worked. I do believe that I'm the best. You're a middle child.

SPEAKER_05 31:40

Do you feel it?

SPEAKER_03 31:41

Well, I'm like, I'm second of four. Like, I don't know.

SPEAKER_05 31:43

It's Oh, the two the two don't count as middle?

SPEAKER_03 31:47

I don't think we have kinda. I mean a little bit. But I don't feel like a middle child.

SPEAKER_01 31:53

But what is the feeling of a middle child? I I don't know this feeling.

SPEAKER_03 31:55

Here's what I Okay, so I feel like the middle child is either like forgotten in a way, like easy to blend in and hide and be forgotten about, or they're the standout child. That's what I think a middle child is.

SPEAKER_01 32:09

I think that's accurate. I think we're actually both of those things.

SPEAKER_05 32:12

Ah You're chameleons.

SPEAKER_01 32:14

Yes.

SPEAKER_05 32:15

Well, you were like, I'm gonna be the best boy.

SPEAKER_01 32:20

So you just thought if you were just a good child, they would just be.

SPEAKER_03 32:25

Oh, I was my parents' favorite, without a doubt. Oh. I was yeah because you were just doing it.

SPEAKER_05 32:29

I was doing it all.

SPEAKER_03 32:31

I realized keep mom and dad happy and life is easy. Absolutely. And so I took that assignment and ran with it. So I guess that kind of is middle child behavior a little bit. That is, absolutely.

SPEAKER_05 32:44

All right. I'm the youngest and I got away with everything.

SPEAKER_03 32:48

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 32:49

I got everything easier. Like my sister had, you know, strict rules.

SPEAKER_03 32:56

Did you find those your par with your parents' divorce that your dad did your dad treat you both similarly? This was more like mom behavior towards you? Yeah. Ah, okay, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 33:04

Yeah. It was more like Amanda's uh her what's it called? Curfew. Okay. Was like 10, 9, 9 or 10, and mine was like midnight. At this like that's at what at what point in college. Or no at high school. In high school.

SPEAKER_01 33:24

Okay.

SPEAKER_05 33:24

Like when I could drive. Is it because maybe perhaps my sister's was earlier.

SPEAKER_03 33:29

Amanda, and if you're listening to this, you know, like do we think that this was more about the fact that maybe your mom thought Amanda was like around doing some things around town?

SPEAKER_05 33:38

Well, she did have a boyfriend.

SPEAKER_03 33:40

That's our own.

SPEAKER_05 33:41

And I was running around with a gay boy.

SPEAKER_01 33:43

So your mom is like this is before, but this is before people knew.

SPEAKER_05 33:48

Um during and after.

SPEAKER_03 33:50

So maybe your mom was like, We know about him, Allison's fine. It's just yeah, she's like, Oh, that's that's just don't drink again. Yeah, safe.

SPEAKER_05 33:56

Yeah, no, but if I was late, then she didn't. Oh, you would get in trouble. Oh, she called me every minute on the minute until I was home.

SPEAKER_01 34:04

Okay, well, I'll be home. Oh, my mom will not stop calling me. I'm gonna leave that. That's pretty fair. That is wow.

SPEAKER_05 34:10

But living in a small town, it is easy to get home really fast.

SPEAKER_02 34:14

That's true. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 34:15

So I was driving a little too too fast, but I got there. My first car was a red Ford Escort. Oh, okay. Then I um got in a wreck really fast. And then I got you got what really fast? I got in a wreck really fast. And that's like really been my only wreck. It was like six months after my I got my license. Okay. And then I got a tan Volkswagen bug. No. Tan Ford Escape, the old model. Oh, okay. And her name was Mocha.

SPEAKER_00 34:51

Right.

SPEAKER_05 34:52

And then once Mocha died, I got Herbie.

unknown 34:55

Herpes.

SPEAKER_00 34:56

That's what I thought she said.

SPEAKER_01 34:58

I was like, you didn't name your company died. I got herpes.

SPEAKER_05 35:02

No, Mocha died and I got Herbie, actual Herbie. If you guys don't know that, it was really an embarrassing time in my life.

SPEAKER_03 35:09

Or a very epic time.

SPEAKER_01 35:10

I just I take it like that, like you had Herbie. Yeah. Like that was an epic movie. Like it wouldn't be embarrassing if we didn't know what it was. And it would be cool to have it now, too, even.

SPEAKER_05 35:21

Well, I did take the numbers off, but so the stripes were the only thing, but people still knew what it was.

SPEAKER_03 35:25

Yeah, well, yeah. Recognizable car. That's how cool it is. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 35:29

Yeah. Okay, sorry, rewind.

SPEAKER_03 35:32

Yes, sorry.

SPEAKER_05 35:32

You guys, you moved here in 2010. You moved here in 2014, 13th.

SPEAKER_03 35:37

December of 13th. December. Why December? Was it just timing of housing and stuff?

SPEAKER_01 35:43

No, I had just quit my job in November. I was chilling at home. And then my ex, who was like ready, she had been home for six months. She just graduated. She had been home for six months. She was like, I'm ready to go. She was like, you need to be here by the time I get here.

SPEAKER_03 35:59

Oh, okay.

Influencers, Hollywood, And Rents

SPEAKER_01 35:59

It was a hurry up. I was like, okay. Time to go west. So wait, here we go.

SPEAKER_05 36:04

Were you like thinking about moving, or was this like you were going to be able to do it? Yeah, yeah. That's why I had quit my job already.

SPEAKER_01 36:10

I had left New York. Oh, the plan was to get out here anyway. We were coming out here. We were coming out here, but the timing was like, I was just chilling at home, relaxing. Yeah, yeah. And uh she was like, right now.

SPEAKER_05 36:19

It's not at home in Indiana or in New York?

SPEAKER_01 36:22

In Indiana. Oh, okay. I was home in Indiana just chilling. She just went boom. Boop, boop. Yeah. So I drove, took the scenic route, went north. Nice. Saw um Mount Rushmore, through Yosemite, just saw some random stuff throughout the country that I've never been back to. Yeah, it took my time. I had like 11 days. So I wish I would have had more like 16 days, but 11 days.

SPEAKER_05 36:43

Oh, you went I didn't go that slow. Did you go the north route too?

SPEAKER_03 36:48

Does that take you through Colorado at some point? Then yes. Yes. Come down through Colorado, yeah. I've done both. I've driven to and from Indiana at least a dozen times since I moved here.

SPEAKER_05 36:58

Yeah. I left, I moved in February, so I kind of Oh yeah, you went to that crater, I remember. I kind of had to go the southern route because of the weather. I guess December, you that was a risk you took.

SPEAKER_01 37:10

It was a big risk. Let me tell you something. Driving in Montana on the highway in winter is a terrible idea. Yeah. Uh they don't even have like the real, like the you would expect there to be a level of guardrail on the size of these actual mountains. I would have cried.

SPEAKER_04 37:25

I would have stopped and cried they are not there.

SPEAKER_01 37:27

Literally, for probably about four hours of driving, I was like, at any slip, I could fall off and it's over. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 37:36

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 37:37

And I was like, this is this is crazy. It was a really bad decision to go up there, but I was like, I've only I've been to month. That was the only time I've been to Montana, I have not been back. So I'm like, that was the chance. So I took it.

SPEAKER_05 37:47

Yeah, I was too scared since I was alone. So I was like, I'm gonna go south.

SPEAKER_02 37:51

Drove through because you wanted to see the crater.

SPEAKER_05 37:54

I did. I wanted to see also the Grand Canyon.

SPEAKER_02 37:58

Oh, okay, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 37:59

But I went through, I don't know, uh Louisiana first, Alabama. I don't know.

SPEAKER_03 38:04

Louisiana, no way.

SPEAKER_05 38:05

Wait, let me look at the map.

SPEAKER_03 38:06

Yeah, too. Yeah, that's way too much. Oklahoma, Oklahoma. Oklahoma, that makes more sense.

SPEAKER_05 38:10

Then across Texas.

SPEAKER_03 38:11

Did you go through Nebraska? Probably maybe a little bit. A little bit of Nebraska.

SPEAKER_05 38:16

I didn't see through Texas. I stopped in Texas. I went to like, you know, something touristy there.

SPEAKER_03 38:26

And it's kind of just through the top of Texas, right?

SPEAKER_05 38:28

Yeah, the very top. Yeah. And then I stopped in Arizona, and then I went to the Grand Canyon, and then I went to the meteor crater, which I really don't recommend. You were still. Yeah. So that wasn't much to see. I mean, it is really big, and it is like, whoa, this is crazy that like something hit the earth here, but then it's like five minutes and it's like, all right. But it's kind of like it looks like it's right off the road, but it's actually like a half hour into the straight up desert, and it feels like actually scary.

SPEAKER_02 39:05

Oh, okay, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 39:06

I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 39:06

I felt like I was in like a tension zone mascara.

SPEAKER_05 39:11

So that was all, but I didn't, I only took like four days versus that many days.

SPEAKER_00 39:17

Oh, you yeah, you weren't stopping. But I would like to see intentionally stopping those things up there.

SPEAKER_05 39:23

So one of my questions for you two is what are some things that have changed in Los Angeles since you moved here, or what are some things you missed that aren't here anymore?

SPEAKER_03 39:34

That like I wouldn't have. So I went to school in Hollywood. So crossing to go to my classes in Highland and the Hollywood Boulevard, waiting at that GD light was so annoying, and now it's a scramble light.

SPEAKER_05 39:48

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_03 39:48

That would have been nice.

SPEAKER_05 39:49

He you hate scramble lights, don't you?

SPEAKER_01 39:51

Uh yeah, I wish we would go back to the no scramble light era. Ah, okay. I remember when they first made them in the promenade area for. Prominent area, and I was like, What the does that do you guys cuss on the show? Yes, I was like, What the fuck is this? I was like, What? We're we're stopped way longer, so people can go all the way across. Like, that's not necessary. We already have a terrible pedestrian culture in this city. That is true, that is necessary. Just adding to making it worse. I was not wrong. I wasn't happy.

SPEAKER_05 40:20

I had a scramble in college, so I was I don't care.

SPEAKER_01 40:23

Right.

SPEAKER_05 40:23

Like I was used to it.

SPEAKER_01 40:25

I had no clue. That was my introduction to them. I was like, what is this? I was like, people start going to the colour. Oh no, I never remembered. I'm like, what is that? Yeah, why are people doing that? That's weird.

SPEAKER_03 40:34

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 40:35

It seems normal to me.

SPEAKER_03 40:36

Well, that's a big change, I'll tell you. And it was the dole, it was the Kodak Theater. No, it's the Dolby Theater.

SPEAKER_05 40:41

Okay. Yeah. I know you miss Soup Plantation.

SPEAKER_03 40:44

Well, that was because of the pandemic. That's gone because of the pandemic, and I do miss Soup Plantation. Never got to go. Hometown buffet, also gone.

SPEAKER_05 40:52

Awesome.

SPEAKER_03 40:53

Buffets really didn't stand a chance after COVID, let's be honest.

SPEAKER_05 40:55

Yeah, I mean, it's fair.

SPEAKER_03 40:57

Golden Corral is still around somehow.

SPEAKER_05 40:59

That's crazy.

SPEAKER_03 41:00

They're gonna be around forever. That's true. There is always gonna be a need for Golden Corral.

SPEAKER_05 41:05

Um, yeah, there's not like uh like a lot of buildings have changed.

SPEAKER_03 41:09

I mean, Hollywood looks different because where I went to school, there was nothing but parking lots around it. Now it's all huge apartment buildings.

SPEAKER_01 41:15

Everything is an apartment building. Everything's or a parking lot. Like it's just like all of the that's a good one. Like all the different cities that have changed, like downtown Culver City. That's all completely different area now. It's like completely different, like things like that, like a lot of stuff like that.

SPEAKER_03 41:28

Even like just here where I used to live in North Hollywood was a Macy's. It was a two-story Macy's, and now it's Noho West. Now it's huge. No Ho West.

SPEAKER_01 41:35

It used literally just the Macy's and a huge parking massive parking.

SPEAKER_03 41:39

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 41:39

I wonder if they've updated. Also the dollar theater.

SPEAKER_03 41:41

I used to go there every Tuesday for dollar hot dogs and movies and turn it down. Yeah, they're turning it down right now. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 41:47

Where is it?

SPEAKER_03 41:47

It's the you know the Wells Fargo, the tall Wells Fargo bank?

SPEAKER_05 41:51

No. No.

SPEAKER_03 41:52

It's the only thing you can see around here. Oh, where that is, actually. Right by right by that. Okay. Truly right by No Ho West.

SPEAKER_04 41:57

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 41:58

And they're expanding.

SPEAKER_04 41:59

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 42:00

It's just a lot of apartments.

SPEAKER_01 42:01

And there's a lot of apartments. A lot of the city is still the same. Getting around still feels the same. Traffic is obviously worse all the time.

SPEAKER_05 42:08

But yeah, what was the traffic like when you first was it you could drive way easier when you first moved here, or was it still bad?

SPEAKER_00 42:16

No, it was still bad. Yeah, it was definitely still bad. Like the 405 is the 405.

SPEAKER_01 42:20

Yeah, the 405. That's been that's how it is. That has literally how it been. My little my first job was driving around LA. And like it's all the same. I don't know. Rush hour starts a little bit earlier, but it's all the same.

SPEAKER_03 42:32

I also had a stint where I worked for a company called Schleppenfetch, where I was driving around town a lot. And yeah, it's like, well, I don't know, you pay your dues in that way, and you just there's a you couldn't pay me anything to be an Uber driver.

SPEAKER_05 42:43

You're telling me that you had a job that was driving and you still have no idea where you're going.

SPEAKER_01 42:49

I would get lost constantly. This is one of my biggest pet peefs. I'm so upset at these drivers who don't know where they're going. Oh, I never know where they're done. I never know where they're going. I'm like, you are driving for a living. But you know what I won't do?

SPEAKER_03 43:00

As a driver who doesn't know where he's going but uh considers himself a good driver, if I am confused or lost, I'm not fucking everyone else's day up. I'm getting out of the way to my own space till I figure it out.

SPEAKER_04 43:09

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 43:09

Because that's how I'd want to be treated.

SPEAKER_04 43:11

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 43:12

Oh man, say it louder for the people back. And I I decided this yesterday with a boyfriend as we were driving in and count encountering the most annoying driver, in my opinion, in LA is the one where you are in the lane, you see them creep out, they they want to turn in and you're like, don't do it, don't do it, don't do it. They do it, but they don't get up to speed with you, right? And it's like, oh, and then it does bring me a lot of joy to safely get around them, but make them known, make it known that you're a fucking idiot. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 43:43

I can't talk about all the things in driving that annoy me because the list is too long.

SPEAKER_03 43:47

Sure.

SPEAKER_05 43:48

I'm really, I really get passionate about driving.

SPEAKER_01 43:52

She does pretty passionate. Some people some people call it road rage. Sure. Also, it's just passionate.

SPEAKER_03 43:58

Yeah, okay. Sorry, yes, of course. I will say the biggest change is rent. Can't actually can't believe it. What was your rent? My first apartment was a bachelor pad that was a like um comically small. Like they turned the closet into a half kitchen. I only lived there for six months. My first real apartment in North Hollywood, I lived there with my brother and our my roommate from Indiana, and our rent total for a two-bed, two-bath was$16.50. I looked at that building, haven't updated the apartments. What is it going for? That same apartment is going for$3,600.

SPEAKER_01 44:31

Oh,$360. My first apartment we split, it was$13, like$75. Splitting that. Oh my god. Yeah. My first anything. Anything to pay$700 in rent again.

SPEAKER_05 44:46

My first apartment in Indianapolis, my first like solo apartment was in Indianapolis, and I paid$690.

SPEAKER_03 44:53

Yeah, well, that is crazy. And that's probably the same price still to this day.

Fantasy Books, Bonds, And Debate

SPEAKER_05 44:57

No, it had gone up a little bit, even like the last year I was.

SPEAKER_03 45:01

I mean, I was living, I lived at one point, I lived in a house, a three-bed, three-bath house with my friend Jane and my ex. We thought it was so expensive,$2,500.

SPEAKER_05 45:11

Wow.

SPEAKER_03 45:13

I should have never left. Because it was right now 2800. Yeah. Exactly.

SPEAKER_05 45:20

You had a washer and dryer.

SPEAKER_03 45:21

We had a washer and dryer, two-car garage, backyard. We had everything. We had it all. You did have it all. A living room, a dining room, and a kitchen. Okay, why did you leave? Well, I was in a closeted relationship, Josh. I was like, and I wanted to live privately with him.

SPEAKER_01 45:36

And so sorry. So sorry to bring up old wounds. No, no, no.

SPEAKER_03 45:41

I've healed from that, but that is why I was like, I'm tired of living with a girl. Let's live secretly together. Well, it doesn't work.

SPEAKER_05 45:49

Okay, one thing I do feel like definitely has changed is influencers have arrived.

SPEAKER_03 45:56

That is true. It's so funny to say that we'll never forget the first time.

SPEAKER_01 46:00

Including yourself. Influencers have arrived.

SPEAKER_03 46:03

I will never forget the first time I encountered a like influencer. Influencer in the wild was right when the Paul brothers started to get some fame from Vine. Okay.

SPEAKER_05 46:11

And they The Wars Cons.

SPEAKER_03 46:13

I was on Vine. From Vine. I was on Vine near 1500. Is that what it is? That building? 1500 Vine. Yeah, it's the same. At the stoplight, they they both run into the middle of the road. There's a 1500.

SPEAKER_05 46:24

Well, 1600 is the is the building. That's like where all the viners are.

SPEAKER_03 46:27

That intersection, they go stop traffic to do like the most ridiculous like dance stunt in the middle of the road. I remember being like, what the hell is going on here now? Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 46:37

And then it all just every time there's a red light on Hollywood Boulevard, someone's dancing in the dance. And I will say that we dance in public, but we dance on a mountain, and we at least don't dance in the middle of the thing. We do try to find a little bit. We have a section that is off to the side. Okay. We're not in people's way.

SPEAKER_03 46:58

That is good and nice. Yes.

SPEAKER_05 47:00

But it is embarrassing, and there is one day I fear the day we end up on influencers in the wild. Someone it's not.

SPEAKER_01 47:09

I mean, you are an influencer in the wild. So you do not have to be able to do that.

SPEAKER_05 47:13

It is a little less like. I think that people are probably filming for that less because they are so used to seeing people filming in public.

SPEAKER_01 47:22

Okay.

SPEAKER_05 47:22

That it is a little less like it's just normal now.

SPEAKER_01 47:25

Yeah. You just kind of expect it. You expect everybody to be recording everything.

SPEAKER_05 47:30

That's true.

SPEAKER_03 47:30

And that you're right. That is probably the biggest change, is that there's a whole different kind of actor out here now.

SPEAKER_05 47:35

Yeah, it used to just be mainstream.

SPEAKER_03 47:37

Right.

SPEAKER_01 47:38

To the good old days, huh? Yeah, I wonder if Hollywood's been dirty the whole time. That's true. That's true. Been dirty the whole time. Dirtier than New York? When you first come here. I mean, every part of New York, but yes, dirty than some parts of New York, absolutely. Didn't know. First time I came here, I was like, oh, Hollywood kind of sucks. Yeah, no one.

SPEAKER_05 47:59

The movies don't show you that part.

SPEAKER_03 48:02

I'm also still astounded every time I have to drive through Hollywood, which is every day that I go to work.

SPEAKER_05 48:06

Yeah, what?

SPEAKER_03 48:07

I am always astounded by the amount of tourists. It's like, hasn't everyone seen it here now? Hasn't everyone been here at least once?

SPEAKER_01 48:15

There's no way. But some people fall in love with these places, right? Like people like he'll still go to Times Square. I think if you went to New York, you would go to Twitter. I would, I would. I would be as far away from it as I possibly could. For sure. You're right. You're right. Because it literally is like the worst place in the world, but you haven't been. There's always gonna be people that haven't been. The thing about the people who are in love with it and be like, oh my god, I go to the ball drop every year. I've went gone three times. That's too too many. But uh the people that go every single year and sit in the wear diapers and all that. All of that stuff in insane. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 48:48

So well, I just wanted to hear from you.

SPEAKER_01 48:52

Uh old wise. Old Angelinos. I mean, I will we both put our decade in, so I guess we can in four years.

SPEAKER_03 49:00

I will have lived here longer than I lived in Indiana.

SPEAKER_04 49:02

That's crazy.

SPEAKER_01 49:03

I have already lived here longer than any other place. Oh, okay. Any other city. Yeah. So you're an Angelina girl. Oh yeah. We're Angelina. We're Angelinos. We are. No, you're not.

SPEAKER_05 49:12

Well, it's ten years, is the who knows?

SPEAKER_01 49:14

Who comes together? I think it's more of an attitude and acceptance that this is home. Which she does not take on. She is like Indiana. I am an Indian girl.

SPEAKER_03 49:22

I would agree with him. And not in like a derogatory way. I just don't feel like you've adopted that this is your city.

SPEAKER_01 49:27

I tell her all the time, I'm like, yo, this is LA. This is how it's just like, no. I'm like, whatever, it's LA. Nobody cares.

SPEAKER_05 49:34

I will say that this is the first year I went home and I was like so cold. I think the other times I went home, I was like, I can still I can still rock the Indiana. Like, I don't need a coat, a big coat, like 40 degrees. That's not that cold. And then this time, this trip home, I was like, oh. It's cold. My god. Yeah. So I guess maybe that's a turning point.

SPEAKER_01 50:00

There you go. I definitely took my pea coat home.

SPEAKER_05 50:03

You did?

SPEAKER_01 50:03

Full winter coat. Because I knew. Yeah. And you took us to the coldest of the cold. You went to the like light experience thing. We went to the light experience thing.

SPEAKER_05 50:13

We weren't outside for a total of five minutes.

SPEAKER_01 50:17

I was like, do we have to be outside? I literally asked probably like three times. Yeah. It's like do we have to be outside? And like, yes. I'm like, are you sure?

SPEAKER_05 50:24

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 50:24

And then we were outside taking pictures.

SPEAKER_05 50:27

It wasn't that long.

SPEAKER_01 50:28

Hey, and the memory lasted.

SPEAKER_03 50:29

Taking pictures. You can you're like, I can see my breath. That's true. So yeah.

SPEAKER_05 50:35

Well, speaking of outside. Oh, okay. Something that we've been this actually that wasn't a good segue at all.

SPEAKER_00 50:41

I was like, I was crushing that with the segue.

SPEAKER_05 50:44

Something that Josh and I have been going back and forth with recently is um he has a lot of opinions on my fantasy books and on Wicked.

SPEAKER_00 50:54

It's nothing to do with outside.

SPEAKER_05 50:55

No. Well, fantasy, it's a lot of a lot of it takes place outside.

SPEAKER_03 50:59

It would have been a stretch. You maybe could have gotten there, but yeah.

SPEAKER_05 51:02

Yeah. And I just I we have we had said that we should bring this up when he's on the podcast.

SPEAKER_03 51:08

I am curious what it what we had said. As in the two of them. No, you two. Oh, the two of us.

SPEAKER_05 51:12

Yeah, we were like, we should we should talk about this on the podcast.

SPEAKER_03 51:15

I also have feels about it. I have more feelings about like the AI book series she's currently reading about, I don't know, the pumpkin spice latte cafe and well I did just finish my current book and now I am ready to make Christmas tree photography. It's AI. Oh.

SPEAKER_05 51:29

You think Lori Gilmore is.

SPEAKER_01 51:31

Yes, I don't have enough yes. Oh I believe down this pleases expelling a series.

SPEAKER_03 51:38

I thought I did tell you this. I think it's a human being that's prompting AI to write these series because you're so outlandish and stupid.

SPEAKER_05 51:44

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 51:45

But know that it's like watching a Hallmark movie. But it is like watching, she explains it as a prompt is give me a comp of a book that is like a Hallmark movie, but is also like Gilmore Girls. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 52:02

And these are the characters' names.

SPEAKER_03 52:04

It's so many words I want, how many chapters? Like I think it gives it these prompts. And then they're quite easy to do. Yes. And then I think they probably go in there and do a little bit of editing. Correct. They do a little bit of editing to make like take out some things that don't make sense, whatever.

SPEAKER_04 52:17

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 52:18

Illustrate it, send it to print.

SPEAKER_01 52:19

They do end up getting really crazy as they go forward. Like they get more crazy. It's like, what's happening? What's going on?

SPEAKER_03 52:25

But the pumpkin spice cafe and the candy cane bakery are the gingerbread.

SPEAKER_01 52:29

I will say the names are at complete shit. And that does actually lead me more to the AI theory because the names are really bad. Yeah. It was a gingerbread book store. Sorry, gingerbread book store.

SPEAKER_05 52:41

And now that I did finish Direbound, which we'll get into.

SPEAKER_01 52:45

That's a fantasy book.

SPEAKER_05 52:46

Um, I'm now ready to read The Christmas Tree Farm.

SPEAKER_01 52:48

Here we go. All right. She's ready. Because the second one kind of turned her off.

SPEAKER_05 52:52

She's at the pumpkin spice latte cafe or whatever. The pumpkin spice cafe.

SPEAKER_03 52:57

Pumpkin spice cafe. You were like that one, the ending. I don't know.

SPEAKER_05 53:00

Yeah, it wasn't that bad. But then the gingerbread.

SPEAKER_03 53:03

Oh, this is another reason I think that it is probably AI. Because you said that in each book there's a like a B character that's introduced that is the lead in another book. Yeah. So easy to do that. It's like make the cast this, make one book focus on each of them. Like it's like that.

SPEAKER_05 53:17

Yeah. Well, we'll see what the Christmas Tree Farm has to offer.

SPEAKER_03 53:20

Can't wait to hear. Yeah, I'm sure. I'm sure it'd be great. Perfect for Christmas. How how do you feel about these fantasy books?

SPEAKER_01 53:28

Avatar and uh I don't there's not there's nothing that I necessarily feel about the book, so I'm glad that she enjoys the books. Yeah, there's a part of it that she's not really like understanding about the books that's going on in the books, but she's like blocking out.

SPEAKER_05 53:42

Because I'm wholesome.

SPEAKER_01 53:43

She's she's wholesome and she won't she Yeah, it's kind of I mean that's there, and she recognizes that obviously they say the way that that it's written is very much like smudge. So she doesn't she's not blocking that out. Okay, but it is the specific um connections that the humans have with non-human characters and the bestiality at play. Oh sh thank you.

SPEAKER_03 54:05

What?

SPEAKER_05 54:05

Yes, no one is no bestiality. First of all, everyone, I want everyone to know that's listening. I'm not reading anything that is bestiality. All these books have written.

SPEAKER_01 54:16

The bestiality isn't written, it is implied.

SPEAKER_05 54:20

These books have an elephant element of being like bound to a non-human thing. A non-human thing-ish. Because the in Avatar, the the like the only binding that's happening is the girl to her mate.

SPEAKER_03 54:46

But what's a mate? Her true like the same gen or g same um species.

SPEAKER_05 54:53

Well, but but not because he is he is a human body, but he does have wings. Like a battery.

SPEAKER_01 55:01

Would you consider that to be a human body? If somebody was walking down the street and they had wings, would you consider that to be a human body? I would have to see his penis.

SPEAKER_05 55:13

Then the first guy that she's with, he can shape shift. And he shapeshifts into he is a human, but he shapeshifts into sort of a beast-like situation. The story kind of rips off um Beauty and the Beast a little bit, except for it's it's not a curse that he has, it's a it's a gift that he can shape shift. But they never have sex or with when he's in that form. He's always in human form.

unknown 55:45

Okay.

SPEAKER_05 55:46

Then the other this other book I read, Fourth Wing, the the humans do um what's the word I'm looking for? Bond. Bond to the word.

SPEAKER_00 55:58

They bond.

SPEAKER_05 55:59

To the dragons, and they can speak to the dragons through their heads, but the it's really a military thing. Like the dragon rider, they ride the dragon and they go off and they fight bad guys.

SPEAKER_03 56:11

Does the dragon know when they're saying in distress?

SPEAKER_05 56:13

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 56:15

So are one could argue that the dragon also knows when you're feeling other things.

SPEAKER_05 56:20

But the dragon has its own dragon mate.

SPEAKER_03 56:24

Does the human feel the emotions of the dragon?

SPEAKER_05 56:27

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 56:28

Oh, interesting. Here's where I think Josh is getting the same.

SPEAKER_01 56:32

This is the whole point. It's like I'm trying to just explain to her in normal human words, the way you're saying right now, that the bond is in fact sexual, and she is saying that it is not. And I'm like, it is all of it. It's mental, it's physical, it is also sexual. I don't want to accept that because it makes it more these dragons.

SPEAKER_05 56:52

But they're not.

SPEAKER_01 56:53

They're having sex, but they're not these dire wolves. They are doing it. That's the bond. It's when they do that bond thing, that's it. It is similar, it is a very normal fantasy trip. The bonding. Does this happen with what? Lord of the Rings. No. No, it's not. We don't care. She asks if it happens in Harry Potter. I was like, no.

SPEAKER_05 57:12

The newest book I've read is called Dire Bond. And that is another military school situation, but it's it's humans and then dire wolves. And they also bond with them to so the human can like, you know, ride on it and like fight people.

SPEAKER_03 57:30

Oh, right.

SPEAKER_05 57:31

They're fighting siphons, aka vampires.

SPEAKER_03 57:34

Wolves against vampires, tales of the time. Exactly.

SPEAKER_05 57:37

That's true. But anyway, I don't want to accept that because it makes me feel icky because I don't they're not have you seen the Avatar movies? No.

SPEAKER_03 57:45

Oh. Because I would compare it similarly to how when an Avatar creature bonds with its flying thing and they connect their little tassels and they kind of act like they've just had an orgasm. Kind of a thing. Similarly.

SPEAKER_05 58:02

Yeah, but they don't do that.

SPEAKER_03 58:04

Have you seen Twilight? Of course you have. So if you'll recall in the last second to last film or last film, Jacob, our beloved imprints on an infant, who he then later or vows to protect, and then later in life ends up marrying.

SPEAKER_05 58:22

Yeah. I never liked that part of it. Well, I know it wasn't sexual.

SPEAKER_03 58:27

It was always sexual, let's be clear. He was what he was respectful of her age, but like Yeah, I don't know.

SPEAKER_05 58:34

We didn't need that. We didn't need that, but that is that is this. Okay, but what I'm saying is when I'm reading these books, like now I'm this is tainted for me because I was just like, oh, this is just a you know, an emotional they've they are bonded, but it's like for the good of the military, and they're going and fighting the bad guys. But I don't want to think about it.

SPEAKER_03 58:59

No, I know. So but they're making these into a film, right? They're making the acaton. Fourth wing.

SPEAKER_05 59:03

Apparently, but that I don't know how far along. Fourth wing is becoming a television.

SPEAKER_01 59:08

That's just the shape-shifting one. Yeah. Where so he'll be he'll look like a human most of the time. Yeah, okay, that's true. So that's true.

SPEAKER_05 59:14

They'll just have wings. It's this fourth wing will be a TV show.

SPEAKER_03 59:18

Okay. Well, you'll get to see some of these things you're gonna wear play out right in front of your eyes.

SPEAKER_05 59:23

Yeah, we'll see if it is doing that.

SPEAKER_03 59:26

I fear that the people who love these books would be upset if they didn't stay true to the books.

SPEAKER_05 59:30

Yeah, but there's no but there's no sex happening between No, we uh we don't want to see any.

SPEAKER_01 59:37

Again, I think it's right. It's like it's more implied.

SPEAKER_03 59:39

It's more like that. It's like when you watch Twilight and you leave that going, something's happening.

SPEAKER_01 59:45

Something is happening right there. You look at them, mm-hmm that's something. Yeah, that's something.

SPEAKER_05 59:49

I did have Wicked up because uh as a topic.

SPEAKER_03 59:53

Well, because I am frustrated with you about Wicked. She's told.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:00

Podcast so random. I listened to a podcast. They said something about Wicked, and I was like, clip. It resonated. Did it resonate with you? It did.

SPEAKER_05 1:00:07

Did you know that you can send someone a message in Spotify with a specific timestamp?

SPEAKER_01 1:00:13

No. Brand new.

SPEAKER_05 1:00:14

So he sent me this, and it was like he a specific timestamp he wanted me to start listening from, sent it to me, and I clicked it. It started playing from that spot. And his message was like a little bit more.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:25

It's automatic. Wow. Yeah. That's cool. Anyway, do you want to tell us what I'd like to know because would you like to know of them or my thoughts?

SPEAKER_03 1:00:34

Well, first, let's clarify in case you guys don't know. I saw Wicked, the first film, with these two. Yes, we all three of us saw it. We all three went. It was really hot. Terrible theater. Terrible theater.

SPEAKER_05 1:00:44

Okay, I'm sorry, guys.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:46

Um you I remember you're you were like fine with it. You were like, whatever. No, he hated it. No, I hated it. He was fine with it. No, I didn't enjoy it at all.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:58

Don't want to say it all.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:59

And what I want to say, what frustrates me is that Allison tells me, like, oh no, he's good to never see it. But you did see the musical, so you know how it concludes. Absolutely.

SPEAKER_05 1:01:08

He likes the musical.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:10

I enjoyed the musical so much more.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:12

Fantastic. I cannot wrap my head around not wanting to see the second one to just conclude it for yourself.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:17

No, no. The first one, I don't need to continue the story. One, I now know the conclusion anyway. Sure. And I don't want to continue down this road that I don't like anymore. I'm just gonna get off.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:29

But did you do you agree that in the musical, act two happens way too fast?

SPEAKER_01 1:01:33

Like it's- You're meant to believe all these things so quickly. I think um act one and act two went way too fast. So in the musical. But I don't like that the movies are drawing it out. I specifically noted that. I was like, whoa, that was they're going through it. Um but what what did you ask me?

SPEAKER_03 1:01:48

But but you didn't did you but the pacing of the movie didn't go like you weren't like, oh, that's better.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:54

No, it's not about the pacing, it's about the story. I I honestly don't I didn't enjoy the story. Okay. I enjoy uh the singing specifically. I did make this. There's there are some things that are in the movie that are absolutely better. The singing for one, okay, Jeff Goldblum as the wizard was way better, and I was kind of disappointed in that because he was a pretty lackluster uh wizard wizard.

SPEAKER_05 1:02:17

So I was like, Yeah, our wizard, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:19

Yeah. Uh the the story, the so he was even worse than Goldblum. So uh that was tough. So Goldblum was better, the singing was better. They did a better job in the movie of explaining why her name is Glinda and not Glinda. Yes, they do in the movie. Yeah. In the in the theater show, it was just like commenting. Yeah, that's it. And I was like, oh, that's interesting. They did that worse. Uh, but as a the the clip that I sent to Allison, it was just like it's so like dark and like kind of like unintentionally funny. Like Do you know who Charlemagne the god is? No.

SPEAKER_05 1:02:55

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:55

Uh the girl who's um Alphabet's sister or whatever, who's paraphernalia? So when she yes, that's her.

SPEAKER_04 1:03:10

Obviously, you guys know, yes.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:13

Her being in the wheelchair the whole time and like it being kind of unintentionally funny about the house being dropped in and her legs being kind of out like that, which is really funny. Um how the like the Tidman and the Scarecrow and the the line became that yeah was just like, what? Like, why is everybody so bad at magic yet they keep trying to be good at it, yet everybody's so bad they can't actually do anything like complete. Like we keep trying to be the best of all time. I'm not wrong. And for some reason, Elphable literally did nothing wrong ever, and yet everybody was like, yo, that's get get her.

SPEAKER_03 1:03:53

He's not wrong. Madam Morible is like behind that. But you're right in that she's the most powerful witch to have ever lived. Yeah, she should be able to just be like and everything be the way she wants it to be.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:05

Anything, no, anything, not just everything, anything. Anything that she should be able to do should should be able to happen. One thing. Give me one thing she completed purposefully and to complete it.

SPEAKER_03 1:04:17

Right, because she is this incredibly powerful witch that turns the love of her life into a scarecrow.

SPEAKER_05 1:04:22

Yeah, yeah, but she doesn't know about like she doesn't know how to use these powers because when she's younger, like she's so her dad is so like, get out of here, I don't like you.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:31

And she just like doesn't know what and she was the result of a result of an affair as well. So like get you're in my face every day.

SPEAKER_05 1:04:39

Yeah, so she like didn't know that she had these things, and whenever something would come out of her, she would get in trouble. So it wasn't like she was trying to hone them, and then then she's in school to learn how to do it, but really like her teachers all kind of don't know how to teach her.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:53

Absolutely.

SPEAKER_05 1:04:53

So it's not really her fault that she that's that's my whole point.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:56

She's literally not wicked. Remember at the end of the movie, I was like, she's when was she ever wicked? She was never this the title is wicked. She literally is never wicked, right? That was a good one.

SPEAKER_05 1:05:05

Well, she does feel wicked in the second act when she finally gets it on with Fiero.

SPEAKER_03 1:05:09

Yeah, when they have sex. She's like, I feel wicked. Do we need to pause? I think your team won. Oh, yeah, I know they won. Oh, okay. I'm very aware.

SPEAKER_05 1:05:19

Your team trophies.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:22

I was gonna mention it later. Oh, okay. Oh, that can be your A-list of the winning. I already got that.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:28

Cut this out, Allison.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:29

Come on.

SPEAKER_03 1:05:30

I've done podcasts.

SPEAKER_05 1:05:31

Oh, I'll get to I'll get to that.

SPEAKER_03 1:05:33

A pro. Okay.

unknown 1:05:35

Okay.

SPEAKER_05 1:05:36

All right.

SPEAKER_03 1:05:36

Well, so yeah. I appreciate your opinion, and I'm glad I've I prefer that I like that you have like an actual actual explanation. You're not just one of those people that's like, oh no, it's gay. I did look at it.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:46

I watched it. You did.

SPEAKER_03 1:05:47

You gave it a watch. You willingly came. And I was ready to give it a power.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:50

I was like, wow, this was bad. I'm gonna stop. And you even went to the musical.

SPEAKER_05 1:05:53

And I just straight guy. Like he enjoys arts and culture.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:59

I do enjoy it. And give it a try. I have a super plug with the pantages, and we get free tickets. That's true. You guys just saw some uh we saw Milan Rose. You also hated it as much as her. Did I hate it as much as her?

SPEAKER_05 1:06:11

It was cool. Oh.

SPEAKER_03 1:06:13

Because it is cool. It's like five.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:15

It's good. It's good, it's entertaining. You know, it's very it's like the epitome of meta. It's a story. I was entertained. It's the story of the story. You were what I was entertained. Yeah, okay, good. Keep it, keep it. Yeah, keep that.

SPEAKER_05 1:06:28

I will. Okay, well, we are over an hour. So good for us.

SPEAKER_00 1:06:34

Oh, wow, we're just gabbing, huh?

SPEAKER_05 1:06:35

I know. Isn't it so fun?

unknown 1:06:37

It's fun.

SPEAKER_00 1:06:37

It is fun. It's fun.

SPEAKER_05 1:06:39

I'm having such a great time. Well, I'm trying to think, I'm trying to think of where we go from now. Um we go to A-list of the week and then Okay. Thanks. Josh. It's time for A-list of the week.

unknown 1:06:53

Hey. Okay.

A‑List Of The Week Picks

SPEAKER_05 1:06:54

Aylist of the Week is I gave you a little bit earlier, but this is where we share something about our week that we think everyone needs to know. It could be a wreck. A piece of art you saw, food, a some piece of art you saw. It could be a podcast you listen to, it could be a movie, it could be literally anything.

unknown 1:07:20

Yes.

SPEAKER_05 1:07:21

And I also don't have one. I told you, I never come prepared.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:25

I can start. I do have one. Oh, do you then you start? You're a guest. Why should I start just because I'm a guest? Go for it. Sure. Um, so uh I know that this is the number one sports podcast in the country at the very least. Thank you. So I absolutely wanted to shout out um the New York Knicks. Uh I am a big Knicks fan. Like I said, I didn't live in New York, picked them up pretty much immediately, and it's been a roller coaster of a ride. But we just won the NBA Cup tonight, which is like the new NBA's like mid-season tournament. It doesn't actually mean anything, but we won it. Okay, so that means something. Nobody else won it, and they were also trying to win it, but we won it.

SPEAKER_04 1:08:02

So congratulations.

SPEAKER_03 1:08:07

So wait, were you a Pacers fan or were you not really into Pacers?

SPEAKER_01 1:08:10

He's always hated the Pacers. I've literally always hated the Pacers. For what reason? I grew up in Gary, Indiana, which is much closer to Chicago. Chicago, because you're a Bulls fan. The Bulls, right? Okay. So Reggie Miller can hates Reggie. Fuck a duck. And we love Reggie. I love Reggie. Uh and yeah, and he still commentates now, and I disagree with him pretty much. Okay. Just out of anything he says, I'm pretty much like, get out of here. But I will always have that hatred of him. Uh so then I was a kid, and I Michael Jordan retired, the bull sucked. I was like, wow, this team sucks now. I don't want to watch them anymore. So then I just like relinquished and I was like, ah, well, you were open to whatever team would come to you next. And then like never thing happened. I root for this team for a year, roof for that team for a year. I moved to New York and I was like, it's the next one. I think this is me.

SPEAKER_03 1:09:00

So mix in the jigs.

SPEAKER_05 1:09:03

I should have worn my patrons hat.

SPEAKER_03 1:09:06

Thanks. I'm gonna say something so annoying. And I'm sure you get this all the time, but you're from Gary, Indiana. Yes. So birthplace of Michael James.

SPEAKER_01 1:09:15

Absolutely. Absolutely. My grandmother taught him in third grade. Okay, I was gonna ask you had any connection to him. My uncles and aunts went to school. They're the same age. They went to school with uh That is very cool information.

SPEAKER_05 1:09:26

The ones I know?

SPEAKER_01 1:09:27

The ones you know. Yeah. That's pop culture. Absolutely. That is very cool. My mom didn't go to school with anyone, but my two uncles did. Wow.

SPEAKER_05 1:09:34

That is pretty cool. Fun fact.

SPEAKER_01 1:09:37

Absolutely.

SPEAKER_05 1:09:38

What's yours?

SPEAKER_03 1:09:39

Okay, so my list of the week.

SPEAKER_05 1:09:41

Oh my god. It's gonna be another stupid food that you know it's not a food.

SPEAKER_03 1:09:44

Okay, it's an audiobook. Okay.

SPEAKER_05 1:09:47

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_03 1:09:48

I was on TikTok, as one is. And I was served a clip by, you know, our Lord and Savior, Melissa Joan Hart, and she was being interviewed, and she mentions she mentions something about her book in this like interview. She's like, well, if you read my book, you would know this. I'm not getting into it. Something like that. And I was like, Well, Melissa Joan Hart has a book. I have had this weird fascination with Melissa Joan Hart like my whole life. Sabrina was in my house. It was not a big thing. Witchcraft.

SPEAKER_05 1:10:19

He couldn't wait here.

SPEAKER_03 1:10:20

I would stay the night at my grandpa's. I would do anything in my power to make sure I was there Fridays so I could turn on TGI F. Um, anyway, obsessed with Sabrina. And the first DVD I ever bought as a when I was 16 and got my first job was the season one of Sabrina the Teenage Witch.

unknown 1:10:40

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 1:10:41

I am anyway. So I go, I find I find out that she releases a book in 2016 called Melissa Explains It All. A play on Clarissa Explains It All I'm like. I am on chapter eight, and it is a thrilling biography. Yeah, really? Wow. It's first of all, they have the their family is a business. Her mom is a genius. She so the way that this the thing that I the chapters I'm on right now, it's all on Sabrina. So I've gotten through Clarissa. Now we're into the Sabrina era. The way that this happened, so she was a child actor. Her mom put her and all of her siblings in it, but they they lived in New Jersey. But they had such a normal life and normal upbringing, and her mom took such good care of her finances. Like she never stole from her. Like it was just she was the best mom. Then a friend of hers, after Melissa had done like a couple, a couple features at this point. Her mom's friend is reading the Archie comic. So Sabrina was an archie comic that ran that they only ran like one uh spread of every Halloween. And she was like, Oh my god, this like she kind of looks like Melissa. You should totally like create this character. So her mom looked into getting the rights to Sabrina, and she licensed Sabrina, Sabrina's boyfriend Harvey, The Ants, Glenda and Zelda, and then Salem the Cat for one dollar. They licensed it to her. Oh shit. And in with that, with that, she got she pitched this movie. Sabrina was a movie first. Pitched a movie, got it sold. They flew, she they created this movie in Montreal, and then she took the movie to all the networks, got into a five network bidding war, sold it to NBA. Wow. And just exploded in this huge thing. They were just like, yeah, sure. And this book was in 2016, which was before the chilling adventures of Sabrina. This this franchise has exploded.

SPEAKER_05 1:12:32

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:12:33

And uh which got weird.

SPEAKER_05 1:12:34

I liked it, then it got weird.

SPEAKER_03 1:12:35

I never watched it. But I think the whole thing is fascinating. Her life is fascinating. She's had one husband that she's still happily married, even to this day. I had to look.

SPEAKER_01 1:12:42

Because she is in a new Christmas film that I always mention is she's in a new Christmas film with uh the girl from Clueless.

SPEAKER_03 1:12:50

Yes, yes, Alicia Silverstone. We watched it, it's cute, it's her and her mom produced it, and she plays. Did you watch it? No, we just we saw her. She's just like a side character in it, but she plays like a drunk aunt and is really funny. I was like, okay. So again, she was like in my orbit, and I was like, oh. Anyway, I'm really enjoying this book and I'm fascinated by the case.

SPEAKER_05 1:13:10

Wow, that was a great pitch for it.

SPEAKER_03 1:13:12

So that was a fantastic pitch for it. Melissa explains it all. I'm finding out all the juicy details about the boys she's kissed.

SPEAKER_05 1:13:18

Oh, did she ever date Joey? What's his name?

SPEAKER_03 1:13:20

They never dated. They were best friends always, and Joey Lawrence. Joey Lawrence. And uh still are very good friends. And then they did Melissa and Joey, which she says is her favorite project to date.

SPEAKER_05 1:13:30

Did he have a hair transplant?

SPEAKER_03 1:13:31

I'm sure. 100%.

SPEAKER_05 1:13:35

Do you remember the show Melissa and Joey?

unknown 1:13:37

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:13:37

Did you see his hair on oh yes, yes.

SPEAKER_03 1:13:40

He definitely looked like he was amazing. Or like it was like painted on the perfect buzz cut. No, it doesn't exist like that. Sorry, man. Um, anyway, Melissa explains it all. It's on Spotify premium or audible.

SPEAKER_05 1:13:54

Okay, well, they're not paying us.

SPEAKER_03 1:13:56

Yeah. So well, I'm letting the listeners know if you want to listen to this book.

unknown 1:14:00

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 1:14:00

It's on Spotify or Audible, and Melissa reads it, so it's entertaining.

SPEAKER_05 1:14:04

Okay. I have an anti-A-list first. This has never been done. So a D-list? D list. D list. Is the um American insurance institution.

SPEAKER_03 1:14:18

Oh, just all of America.

SPEAKER_05 1:14:20

Yeah, I hate it. And I think Health Insurance.

SPEAKER_03 1:14:24

Oh, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:14:25

And that's all. I can't really get into the weeds on it, but I just wanted to say that I hate insurance.

SPEAKER_03 1:14:30

We know the weeds, and it is. All of us know the weeds, and we all also. So for instance, like all of us knowing. I won't get into details either, but I have I need to see my doctor. And I was like, explaining that it's not an emergency, but serious. Well, I'm sorry, our closest appointment is January 20th. Okay, what do you suggest? Urgent care of the hospital.

SPEAKER_05 1:14:51

Oh God.

SPEAKER_03 1:14:52

Okay. Thanks. Thank you.

SPEAKER_05 1:14:54

I would have been like, do you know how much of a hypochondriac I am?

SPEAKER_03 1:14:57

You don't understand.

SPEAKER_05 1:14:59

Um, but my actual A-list. Mm-hmm. So I did just finish reading this book, Direbound. And I will say I did only give it three stars. And that's because the end, that's because the end got a little crazy. But I did enjoy reading it.

unknown 1:15:15

Okay.

SPEAKER_05 1:15:16

So I would I would recommend it. It was a intriguing read.

SPEAKER_04 1:15:22

Okay.

SPEAKER_05 1:15:23

Uh on the on the plane coming home, I had Josh read a couple pages and it was Is it horny?

SPEAKER_01 1:15:30

Yeah. Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_05 1:15:30

That's what I had him write.

SPEAKER_01 1:15:33

I'm like, are they having sex yet? She's like, no, not yet. I was like, all right.

SPEAKER_05 1:15:36

I had him, I came across on the plane, I came across a uh a section of the book that was very horny. And I was just like, you need to read this. And he is just like, I can't believe they are still using these words that are like from you know like throbbing my throbbing, my wetness, my my sex.

SPEAKER_01 1:15:54

Do they refer to it? Yes, they do.

SPEAKER_05 1:15:57

They do, but I feel like it's usually less with that.

SPEAKER_01 1:16:00

Sure, but they still do it. But it's like, oh, this is like what it was written with. Like 30 years ago. He touches my sex.

SPEAKER_05 1:16:08

What? Never I hate it. Never look into my eyes and say, I hate it. But I had a good time reading it. It's just like the very end was like the very end, like it was a lot that they just threw at the end of the day.

SPEAKER_02 1:16:21

A lot of a lot of twists and turns. Oh, they just like bunch. It got through a lot of things.

SPEAKER_05 1:16:26

A lot of plot was really just like at the very end, like bam, bam, bam, like a whole bunch of weird stuff. Yeah. But I will read the second one and I'll see what's going on. So I do, I do recommend. Okay.

unknown 1:16:36

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:16:37

Okay. The the last thing before we go, I know that we are going long, but this is this is the episode uh before New Year's.

SPEAKER_03 1:16:48

This is our New Year's episode.

SPEAKER_05 1:16:49

And we haven't said anything about that. So do we have any 2025 goals?

SPEAKER_03 1:16:54

26.

SPEAKER_05 1:16:54

26. 2026.

Goals, Dogs, And League Talk

SPEAKER_03 1:16:57

Do we have any 2026 goals? Um, well, first I do want to say it's the it's our year. It's the year of the horse. So that's our year. Thank God. I hate horses.

SPEAKER_05 1:17:05

Would never have known that. You really do.

SPEAKER_03 1:17:07

But it's in the Chinese Zodiac 1990 horse.

SPEAKER_05 1:17:10

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 1:17:11

Um that already means good things for us, except well, except for your back.

SPEAKER_05 1:17:16

Yeah, I want my back to not hurt in the new year.

SPEAKER_03 1:17:20

I I don't know if I have goals, but I'm continuing with my having boundaries stronger than my empathy.

SPEAKER_05 1:17:28

Oh, put that on a t-shirt.

SPEAKER_03 1:17:30

It's on a keychain. Boundaries stronger than my empathy. I do like that.

SPEAKER_05 1:17:35

Okay. Hmm. My goal is something I don't want to say on the podcast, so that I sorry about that to everyone. Um I don't think so. No.

SPEAKER_03 1:17:58

Um, I she just wants everyone to get along and I actually don't have a goal.

SPEAKER_05 1:18:08

I I need you to go if you have something and we'll come back to that.

SPEAKER_01 1:18:10

I was gonna say, no, I don't. I actually don't have a goal.

SPEAKER_05 1:18:13

You don't have any goals? You just said that.

SPEAKER_03 1:18:15

Do you guys have anything? Do you have anything? Do you have anything fun already planned that's gonna happen next year? Any trips, any um milestones?

SPEAKER_05 1:18:24

Reagan's getting married, so that's something. Next year it's gonna happen for sure. October.

SPEAKER_03 1:18:29

Oh.

unknown 1:18:29

Okay.

SPEAKER_05 1:18:30

That's in the books. I already know.

SPEAKER_03 1:18:31

There you go. That is in the books. A fall wedding in Indiana. Cute.

SPEAKER_05 1:18:34

Pretty cute. Cute. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:18:36

Maybe wet. Hopefully not too cold or wet.

SPEAKER_05 1:18:38

Yeah. Hopefully. I don't know. I just want to be happy, have less anxiety, and continue to grow with my darling angel over here.

unknown 1:18:51

Josh.

SPEAKER_03 1:18:52

Darling angel lover. Wow. Is that what you said? Yeah, I said over there. Darling Angel Lover.

SPEAKER_05 1:19:00

Darling Angel Lover. And I just wish us an amazing year.

SPEAKER_03 1:19:05

Are you gonna get another dog? No. You're loving your independence.

SPEAKER_01 1:19:09

I I can't convince her to get one. I think in your entire twenties, you were a dog. I brought it up a few times and she's she's really rebuffed.

SPEAKER_05 1:19:18

Yeah, I don't think I'm ready for a dog yet until I have Central AC. A home, a backyard, someone to raise the dog.

SPEAKER_03 1:19:34

Oh my god.

SPEAKER_05 1:19:36

What? What is that breathing point?

SPEAKER_01 1:19:38

This is Los Angeles. The home in a backyard.

SPEAKER_03 1:19:40

It's a cool 3.5 million. I can rent a home. It's true. That's true. That's true.

SPEAKER_01 1:19:47

That is true. Yep.

SPEAKER_05 1:19:48

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:19:51

You're right.

SPEAKER_05 1:19:52

Yeah, I don't I don't know. It's not in the goal of the next year.

SPEAKER_03 1:19:57

I will say Karina's brother does have. A two-bed, two-bath, brand new build about to open up for thirty five hundred a month. All utilities included, two parking spaces in its own private big backyard.

SPEAKER_01 1:20:09

Whoa, uh apartments.com.

SPEAKER_03 1:20:11

Yeah, right. That's me.

SPEAKER_05 1:20:12

Do you have that listing?

SPEAKER_03 1:20:15

Yeah. I have a video of it.

SPEAKER_05 1:20:16

Where is it?

SPEAKER_03 1:20:17

It's here. It's in North Halloween.

SPEAKER_05 1:20:19

Don't put it on here. Alright, well, we'll talk.

SPEAKER_01 1:20:24

Okay.

SPEAKER_05 1:20:25

Wait, did you think of anything?

SPEAKER_01 1:20:27

I did not, and I was trying to. There's things to accomplish to us.

SPEAKER_03 1:20:32

What is the next sports season that you'll be working on?

SPEAKER_01 1:20:35

Not to um my own at the end of January. What sport is that? I'm referring high school basketball right now. Oh, really? Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:20:44

Track starts in end of January. Track is the end of oh, we're in SoCal, for sure. Right.

SPEAKER_05 1:20:51

Uh flag football will be January.

SPEAKER_03 1:20:54

There it is. Right. Super Bowl happens in February, everyone. Yes.

SPEAKER_05 1:20:58

But it's flag football. But yes, but yes. Yes. But yes. Yes.

SPEAKER_03 1:21:07

And you just completed beach football. Football. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:21:11

Yeah. Dodgeball will be starting up. I don't know.

SPEAKER_03 1:21:15

Is right now the draft season? Is that what's happening? You guys aren't doing that right now. No, and not everybody's too scared.

SPEAKER_05 1:21:20

We just want to be together. I know. Yeah, we want to be together.

SPEAKER_01 1:21:24

We can meet some more people. What happens if we like go to the city? Yeah, but how annoying if you're on really good and you bring them back.

SPEAKER_03 1:21:31

But if you have games at different times, then you're like, do you stay for the person? You're there for all three hours? You just don't know.

SPEAKER_01 1:21:36

No, then you become then you uh bring that person to your team.

SPEAKER_03 1:21:41

I would like you to take over the league, but I don't think you're queer enough. No.

SPEAKER_05 1:21:46

Damn it.

SPEAKER_03 1:21:47

I'm not. I would play again under Josh's league.

SPEAKER_05 1:21:50

Well, he could just start a league on under his should I start a queer league?

SPEAKER_03 1:21:54

No, just start a league.

SPEAKER_05 1:21:57

You can start a dodgeball league. Okay.

SPEAKER_03 1:21:59

Yeah. So I would join, yeah. Let's do it.

SPEAKER_01 1:22:02

Start a rival dodgeball league. Dodgeball league. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:22:06

In should I do it in West Hollywood or should I do it in like um I would like to play at the Wii Ho at the aquatic center.

SPEAKER_01 1:22:13

Downtown. Downtown.

SPEAKER_05 1:22:15

You want to drive downtown?

SPEAKER_01 1:22:16

Well, if we're if we're gonna be rivals, they go to West Highway where it's like clean and nice. We gotta go to Dart downtown where it's dirty. Yeah, come come on. Oh let's go. Okay. Um probably gotta get less people down there.

SPEAKER_05 1:22:26

Perhaps.

SPEAKER_01 1:22:27

But then we get the downtown people. That's true.

unknown 1:22:30

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 1:22:30

I don't know those people. Sometimes there's he wouldn't know we won't know until we try.

SPEAKER_00 1:22:34

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:22:34

And that's facts. Does you do do your people know about the differences of like the neighborhoods in LA?

SPEAKER_05 1:22:41

Oh.

SPEAKER_01 1:22:42

About how like downtown is like a pretty much a no-no. I'm sure they can guess.

SPEAKER_03 1:22:45

If yeah, I feel like we've got to do that.

SPEAKER_05 1:22:46

They know that Sky Row lives down there.

SPEAKER_03 1:22:48

So talk about when I've worked downtown, and that was a trip.

SPEAKER_05 1:22:52

Okay, my back hurts so bad. I'm gonna just get to the birthdays. Okay. I love you guys so much. But um today, December 29th, the birthdays. Famous birthdays. Um, Dylan Manette is 29. Did you watch? You know who that is?

SPEAKER_03 1:23:08

I sure don't either.

SPEAKER_05 1:23:10

He's in that one movie, Thirteen Reasons Why?

SPEAKER_03 1:23:13

13 Reasons Why?

SPEAKER_05 1:23:15

The show, 13 Reasons Why.

SPEAKER_03 1:23:16

13 Reasons Why? That's not a show.

SPEAKER_05 1:23:18

That is a show. That's where the girl offs herself. My 13th reason.

SPEAKER_03 1:23:23

Okay. I did not watch that show.

SPEAKER_05 1:23:25

Oh, it's actually pretty dark.

SPEAKER_03 1:23:27

Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:23:28

But I was intrigued. Uh John Voigt is 87. Jude loves. Jennifer.

SPEAKER_01 1:23:33

Nope. Met John Voigt in grocery store. John Voigt. Actually, a lot of celebrities in grocery stores. That they do.

SPEAKER_05 1:23:40

I never see any.

SPEAKER_03 1:23:41

I have seen a lot. John Voigt is Angela Angelie's dad.

SPEAKER_05 1:23:46

Yes. Yes. Jude Law is 53. Allison Bree is 43. Remember that weird movie? Who did I watch it with? You? Oh no, it was the new Black Mirror. Wasn't that Alison Bree? That first episode?

SPEAKER_01 1:24:01

The first episode? No, the first episode was um Rashida Jones.

SPEAKER_05 1:24:06

Yep. They're different people.

SPEAKER_01 1:24:08

Very different.

SPEAKER_05 1:24:10

Ted Dancing is 78, the good place, which Josh won't watch.

SPEAKER_01 1:24:15

Love Ted Dancing.

SPEAKER_05 1:24:16

Not enough.

SPEAKER_01 1:24:18

Did you watch Cheers?

SPEAKER_05 1:24:20

I've seen Cheers, yes.

SPEAKER_01 1:24:21

Oh, you've seen Cheers. Well, why don't you watch it?

SPEAKER_05 1:24:25

Okay, let's watch it.

SPEAKER_03 1:24:27

No, you guys are too busy watching Supermarket Sweep.

SPEAKER_05 1:24:30

Hell yeah. Don't even, don't even.

SPEAKER_03 1:24:33

Has its own channel, I've learned.

SPEAKER_05 1:24:35

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:24:35

I there's a literally happened, just happened upon.

SPEAKER_01 1:24:40

I think it's even a supermarket sweep channel. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:24:44

Isn't it like direct TV? Don't you have a direct TV? Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:24:46

It's that's actually incredible.

SPEAKER_03 1:24:47

Yeah, it's 24-7. You can probably get into it. You can step away from it. You can come back to it.

SPEAKER_01 1:24:51

Yeah, easily come back to it. Oh, you want to see a couple of the trivia and then be like, let's get to the sweep. Yeah, yeah. Like, yo, if they get if they get three minutes, you're like, I want to watch. If they get two twenty minutes, they're not getting anything.

SPEAKER_05 1:25:03

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:25:03

They're not doing something special. But you know. Um, if they brought it back and you guys went on it, that would be a good one. Well, they did bring it back. They did.

SPEAKER_05 1:25:09

It was on Netflix.

SPEAKER_01 1:25:11

I guess you were not a real fan. Was not good.

SPEAKER_05 1:25:14

It wasn't as good, no.

SPEAKER_01 1:25:16

Oh, okay. Damn.

SPEAKER_05 1:25:17

Okay. Uh Mackay Pfeiffer is 51. Thought he was older than that for some reason.

SPEAKER_03 1:25:21

What's that? Who's that? Oh my gosh.

SPEAKER_05 1:25:24

And so many movies in the like 90s.

SPEAKER_01 1:25:27

He played MM? No, no. I said MM, but I meant 8 Mile.

SPEAKER_05 1:25:32

Oh, oh, oh.

SPEAKER_01 1:25:33

Dredd's guy was Dredd is like his best friend.

SPEAKER_05 1:25:35

Is Mackay Pfeiffer in O? Is that the one him?

SPEAKER_01 1:25:37

I'm not. I haven't seen 8 Mile. What?

SPEAKER_05 1:25:41

Get out of here.

SPEAKER_01 1:25:43

Oh, no, you don't. I get to say that. I know that Brittany Murphy's thing.

SPEAKER_05 1:25:47

Oh my gosh, Brittany Murphy, we just Oh, of course, of course, of course, of course.

SPEAKER_01 1:25:51

Alex, Alex. You knew that the new girl in Clueless is Brittany Murphy, right? Yes, of course. Of course. Yeah. Literally, I ran it on it on. I ran and had it on, and then she comes in and I say, dang, R-I-P. And she I was like, I was like, what? I was like, that's Brittany Murphy.

SPEAKER_05 1:26:10

I had no idea that was hers. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:26:12

She was like, what?

SPEAKER_05 1:26:13

Yeah, that's like young. I don't know.

SPEAKER_03 1:26:16

Have you seen Drop Dead Gorgeous?

SPEAKER_05 1:26:19

Or Drop Dead Diva?

SPEAKER_03 1:26:20

No, Gorgeous.

SPEAKER_05 1:26:21

Um, no, I don't think so.

SPEAKER_03 1:26:22

You must watch. Brittany Murphy is iconic in that movie.

SPEAKER_05 1:26:25

Well, he has a connection to, I was telling you, who I don't know if you want to say it on here.

SPEAKER_03 1:26:29

So well, I spent time in her house months after she's had and her husband had passed. I went to school with her cousin, and she was living in that house with Brittany Murphy's mom while she was going to school up in Sunset Plaza. And we would go back there and I would play Janice Joplin's guitar because she was Britney was like training to be her in a biopic. We would read from the Happy Feet script like all of her notes and like like I have a little black book. Did you feel her presence? It was so dark in that house. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:27:02

See, that's why just really heavy and bad. Yeah. Well, yeah. I mean, I couldn't have it's imagined being going in that house.

SPEAKER_03 1:27:12

I mean, I went would go to the bathroom in the bathroom she died in. Like it was like hate that.

SPEAKER_05 1:27:17

Would never do that.

SPEAKER_03 1:27:18

The piano in there was Justin Timberlakes gifted to him by Britney Spears when she lived in that house before breaking Murphy.

SPEAKER_05 1:27:23

And honestly, she Brittany started, isn't that where she kind of started going downhill? So maybe the house has something.

SPEAKER_03 1:27:29

Well, the house is gone. It's been demolished.

SPEAKER_05 1:27:30

It should have been.

SPEAKER_03 1:27:31

Which is probably appropriate.

SPEAKER_05 1:27:33

But I will say this is why you need to believe that when he says he can feel presence and he doesn't feel them in my apartment, that you should probably I feel nothing in her apartment and I have no ghost.

SPEAKER_03 1:27:43

But do you feel you're not going to be able to do named Cher?

SPEAKER_05 1:27:45

Wait, what was her name?

Birthdays, Pop Culture, And Sign‑Off

SPEAKER_03 1:27:46

She was wearing a pantsuit and had hair like Cher. Her name was Gladys. Had or have? I haven't seen her in years. You haven't seen her in years? She was a friendly presence. She did follow me to the channel. Didn't she used to open all the. Friendly presents.

SPEAKER_05 1:28:01

Didn't she used to open all the clo the doors?

SPEAKER_03 1:28:05

When I lived with Jane and she was there, we came home.

SPEAKER_05 1:28:07

She didn't like Jane.

SPEAKER_03 1:28:08

Yeah, I don't think she liked that. I was living with a girl. And all the cabinets in the kitchen were open. The freezer door was open, and in the middle of the floor in the kitchen, a pile of berries from the freezer. Away from the freezer. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And like normally I'd be like, was that a dream? But Jane was there. Like we saw this together. And then two nights later, we're watching a movie. Jane used to hang her headphones on the corner of her TV and we're just like watching the T and the headphones go.

SPEAKER_01 1:28:33

I told you.

SPEAKER_05 1:28:35

But I'm saying he doesn't feel a presence in my apartment.

SPEAKER_01 1:28:38

But that doesn't mean he feels every presence that is that exists on this plane. If it's a negative one, maybe I can only feel the positive ones. I don't think that it's a negative one.

SPEAKER_03 1:28:47

Oh, okay. Then he's quite positive. He is not. Oh, and it's a he is. I'm inclined to believe Josh. But I don't feel a presence in there at all, so it can't be bad. You know, like when you're in a dark place, you can feel it. Yeah, you can feel that. Your partner doesn't feel like that. He's cool. He's he's macho.

SPEAKER_01 1:29:02

He just wants to light. All he wants is attention, and Allison will not give it to him. Well, I just don't want to open myself. Let's just get the board. No, no. No, she doesn't hear that.

SPEAKER_03 1:29:13

Okay.

SPEAKER_05 1:29:14

But I will say Mackay Fifer is an O.

SPEAKER_03 1:29:16

Oh, is he no?

SPEAKER_05 1:29:17

Yes.

SPEAKER_03 1:29:17

He's also in that dance movie, I think, that I love immense.

SPEAKER_01 1:29:22

Oh. Not yes. He was a honey.

SPEAKER_05 1:29:25

To wrap this up, Dylan Mulvaney, I know you don't know who that is. She is 29. And then the only um entertainment thing I could see was the song, the explicit version of potential breakup song by Allie and AJ came out in 2020 on this day. And that's the literal only thing in entertainment that happened on December 29th?

SPEAKER_03 1:29:44

Because entertainment shuts down at the end of the year.

SPEAKER_05 1:29:46

Did you watch Allie and AJ?

unknown 1:29:47

No.

SPEAKER_03 1:29:48

What did you watch?

SPEAKER_05 1:29:49

The show?

SPEAKER_03 1:29:50

They didn't have a show.

SPEAKER_05 1:29:52

They didn't have a show?

SPEAKER_03 1:29:53

Allie and AJ? I thought they did. No, they're sisters that happen to be in advance. Wasn't one of them in a show? Phil of the future. Okay.

SPEAKER_05 1:30:01

The other one was in that show. Okay.

SPEAKER_03 1:30:06

They were in Cowbells.

unknown 1:30:08

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 1:30:08

All right.

SPEAKER_05 1:30:09

Thank you all for listening andor watching. Thank you, Josh, for being.

SPEAKER_03 1:30:14

You're welcome.

SPEAKER_05 1:30:15

If you're a fan favorite, you must come back.

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I'll be a fan favorite. Only if. We'll let the numbers tell us.

SPEAKER_05 1:30:22

Um Happy New Year.

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Bye.