Long Hair, Hot Takes, And Celeb Mom Drama

We trade a halo hair reveal for a whirlwind tour of K‑pop survival shows, viral creator strategy, queer romance on screen, and Hilary Duff’s spicy teaser while unpacking the mom‑group controversy.

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Allison Florea

Alex Hinsky

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Halo Hair Reveal And Influencer Vibes

SPEAKER_02 0:00

Sorry, I'm just looking at um cotters and big bear for you. Thanks. I just want I just want to Oh my god. Well my gosh, more expensive. Who are you? During the Valentine's. That's why it's more expensive. Yeah. Oh my gosh. I'm a new woman. I grew my hair so long overnight.

SPEAKER_04 0:20

This is the influencer effect.

SPEAKER_02 0:22

Yeah. You guys, I am wearing a hair piece.

SPEAKER_04 0:28

This is a toupee.

SPEAKER_02 0:31

No, so I ordered this Halo um hair extension a while ago, and I It's been a long time.

SPEAKER_04 0:37

Like it was think uh before Thanksgiving.

SPEAKER_02 0:39

Here's the thing. I ordered the one, it was the wrong color. I had to then take a picture, send it to them for them to um send me the correct, which I should have done in the first place. Yeah, well I just thought the picture online looked darker than it was in person.

SPEAKER_05 0:56

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_02 0:56

And I just thought, like, my hair's one dimension. There's no highlights, lowlights, anything in it. I just thought it would be easy to do. Yeah. And it wasn't. So then I had to wait for them to send me new. So here I am. And I just like wanted to show up here. What's happening?

SPEAKER_05 1:15

Go ahead.

SPEAKER_02 1:16

I wanted to show up here wearing it, but I couldn't get it right. Um, and it actually doesn't look amazing if I don't have these headphones on, because the blending of my hair to the uh fake hair is not amazing because I didn't curl it together because I don't know if I can actually put heat on this plastic hair.

SPEAKER_04 1:38

Right. And I think on the website it's gonna say because the color is perfect.

SPEAKER_02 1:42

It is like a really good match, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:44

And if you just blend the curls together, I think you're golden.

SPEAKER_02 1:47

Yeah. So with the Alex's idea was like with the headphones on, I think it'll like look normal. Correct. And it does. And I was just going to like pop out in this and be like, then I'm take it off. But I do think that's too much work.

SPEAKER_04 2:00

So yeah, we're just gonna leave it on for this episode.

SPEAKER_02 2:02

I know, but I do feel kind of silly, but it's okay.

SPEAKER_04 2:05

No, I like this persona. She's Allie.

SPEAKER_02 2:08

I would like to have longer hair. Um and Hayley getting Haley getting her extensions then made me jealous.

SPEAKER_04 2:19

Oh, okay. So Well, you technically ordered this before she got extensions. I did. Maybe I influenced her. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 2:24

They're really big here. No, but um, I just need to learn how to actually put them in and be and look normal. Yeah. But then I also I also feel like, oh, like you're just trying to be an influencer.

unknown 2:38

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 2:38

Because all the girls, they get the fake hair and they get the fake lashes, and they everything is fake.

SPEAKER_04 2:44

Do you, girl?

SPEAKER_02 2:45

But it just seems fun sometimes. I really want so what I really love about Haley's extensions is the way it looks in a ponytail. She put the first time and she put it up in a ponytail the first time I saw her, and I was like, Whoa, that is why I need to have because I've just never had a long hair ponytail. Long hair ponytail, like thick hair, where it's like the the messy bun looks so sick, and then the ponytail like has such a nice like away from the head. Like I never had that. I know. I was like, that's why I need it. But with this, I can't do that.

SPEAKER_04 3:19

What are hers? Is hers this too?

SPEAKER_02 3:20

No, no, no. She has like um oh I don't know, like like actual. She went there, had a lady put them in. Don't know what which kind it is, couldn't tell you.

SPEAKER_04 3:28

Okay, all right.

SPEAKER_02 3:29

But I am jealous.

SPEAKER_04 3:31

Well, here you are doing one of a version of that.

SPEAKER_02 3:34

Doing a version, yeah. It's cute. I love it. The back is none of my business.

SPEAKER_04 3:37

You know what? We don't no, it isn't it's actually none of your business because you can't see it.

SPEAKER_02 3:41

I can't see it, and good thing the audience can't see it. And if they're listening, they really can't see anything.

SPEAKER_04 3:45

No, but I bet if you put your hood up right now, you would look so like A from Pretty Little Liars.

SPEAKER_02 3:50

Oh.

SPEAKER_04 3:51

No, I was gonna say like a like a moody Should I try it? Yeah, I'll see it. Oh, I can I can already tell. This is a nice hoodie, by the way. Wow. Somehow you look like you're still. The grim reaper?

SPEAKER_02 4:06

Oh.

SPEAKER_04 4:07

Like I feel like this exists on your Facebook somewhere.

SPEAKER_02 4:10

Oh, probably, but I never had this long of hair. Oh hey, no. That was so scary.

SPEAKER_04 4:20

No, I I liked it. It was somehow familiar.

SPEAKER_02 4:24

Um like A, because you were in pretty little, it's like we always like to talk about Hello. Well, speaking of not anything like that, well, okay, let's start the podcast.

SPEAKER_04 4:34

Welcome to what five, six, seven, and eight.

Popstar Academy Deep Dive And K‑Pop Survival Culture

SPEAKER_02 4:53

Welcome back to the A-Liz with the Kenneth with Allison and Alex. I'm Allison, he's Alex. Could not remember that back was a part of it. Is it? Always or just like welcome to yeah, welcome back.

SPEAKER_04 5:03

Always back.

SPEAKER_02 5:04

Welcome back.

unknown 5:05

Yep.

SPEAKER_02 5:06

I hold on, I gotta make a note that I want to talk about something that I started and never finished.

SPEAKER_04 5:10

Oh yeah, I have my finally, I'm bringing the iPad back. It was so helpful before.

SPEAKER_02 5:15

I am holding the mic in a different way and I do like it because it is less taxing on the iPad.

SPEAKER_04 5:20

You're also like keeping your posture different.

SPEAKER_02 5:23

Okay, that's probably good. Okay, okay, it's good. I finished watching Popstar Academy and you guys okay. I do not know. Did you know when this was on? Like called like in the world. Did you know when they were filming the show?

SPEAKER_04 5:36

Correct, yes.

SPEAKER_02 5:37

How did I not know? It was I feel like we talked about it. Did we? I guess I just didn't know what was going on because there was fan voting, there was live performances happening. Yeah, had no idea. So sad that I missed being a part of that. Could have gone to the live taping of filming the group or forming the group.

SPEAKER_04 5:59

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 6:00

I'm so upset. So if they do it again, I want to be, I want to be a part of it.

SPEAKER_04 6:03

I mean, it was super successful. I can't imagine they wouldn't.

SPEAKER_02 6:06

Yeah. I had such a great time watching that.

SPEAKER_04 6:09

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 6:09

Did you watch it?

SPEAKER_04 6:10

No.

SPEAKER_02 6:11

I think you should. I think it's fun.

SPEAKER_04 6:12

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 6:13

Very fun behind the scenes of them. Like they did the training and development part for over a year, maybe like a year and a half or a little bit less. And then they have they didn't tell the girls that it was going to then become a like survival show, which is very big in Korean culture, K-pop culture.

SPEAKER_03 6:32

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_02 6:32

And um, they didn't tell them that. So they're in their training days, like for that whole year and a half or whatever. Yeah. And they just think, okay, at some point, the executives, um, Bang, who is the head of Hive, yeah, um, and like the other people who are a part of the heads of Geffen Records, they thought we're just gonna perform for them one day, and then they're just gonna pick who's in the group.

SPEAKER_04 6:58

And then they But it ended up being a like popularity contest.

SPEAKER_02 7:02

Yes, and they some of them like really could not handle that. Really?

SPEAKER_04 7:06

Like, there's one girl that um I remember there being drama about someone leaving, like yes.

SPEAKER_02 7:10

So this girl Lexi Lexi was so good, and then the like one of the head people at Geffen was like, she was probably gonna be in the group, to be honest. But she when it turned into the survival show, and they made them they kind of pitted them against each other, and they made them all pick their perfect six group. And it showed like some of the girls, like there was one girl that didn't get picked at all to be in anyone's group. There was like a couple of the girls that are in Cat's Eye now, Sophia and Megan, I think, were like picked to be in everyone's group, and so it was just it became this popular thing where they were like, We thought we were all like sisters, best friends, and then no one put me in their group, and I feel like really betrayed, which there was like fit 20 of them, or maybe like at that point, maybe 15. Okay, it's like, okay, if they're asking you to make a group of six, I can't put everyone in the group, so don't be mad at me for that. True, true, true. But then that girl Lexi, she was just like, I'm not having fun anymore. This is not like what my morals and standards are. Like, I don't want to be pit against each other. That's not what I signed up for. And so she left, and then the um executive was like, Yeah, Lexi was everything we were looking for to be in this group, and that sucks that she left. But I just saw the three of the girls who didn't make it. I think that they're forming a group around them that is up gonna debut soon. Because there's another girl, blonde girl named Emily that I loved so much. She was the best dancer the whole time. Like, because they did rankings throughout the training, like every like month or a couple months, they would have them do a performance for the executives, and then they would rank them. And she was always first in dancing. And then her singing wasn't great at first, but it got better.

SPEAKER_03 9:02

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 9:02

And I wanted her to be in the group so bad, and so I'm glad that she's gonna be in something good. I had the best time watching that show. I'm so sad that it's over. And I do hope that if they do it again, I will be present to actually like watch because on they everything they were doing on YouTube was such real time, and there was people being being able to comment on it, and like I would love to just like make a TikTok, being like, these are my top girls, and I just wasn't a part of that.

SPEAKER_04 9:30

So it's on your radar now.

SPEAKER_02 9:32

It is, and I highly recommend anyone to watch it.

SPEAKER_04 9:36

I love that.

SPEAKER_02 9:37

How was your week? When have when did we see each other?

SPEAKER_04 9:40

Sunday.

SPEAKER_02 9:41

Okay, hasn't been that long yet.

SPEAKER_04 9:42

No, it hasn't been that long. Um, it's been good, it's been a good week. Um, and Dylan and I filmed a follow-up to our viral. I saw it this morning.

SPEAKER_05 9:50

It was good.

SPEAKER_04 9:51

Um totally not expect it. It's I don't expect it to do well. It's just like so we we wanted to do one more final one, and so it was like, whatever, if it doesn't do anything, but we've both gained so many followers from it, and especially on our TikTok. So it's just like, let's just do something, keep it going.

SPEAKER_02 10:07

Well, there is a girl that I see doing that all the time. Do you see that girl too?

SPEAKER_04 10:11

What girl?

Viral Skits, TikTok Growth, And GT Plans

SPEAKER_02 10:12

She always is obviously it's set up, yeah. But she's always like at her the same type of uh angle that you guys did, and she's always no, I'm not saying you copied off of her, I'm just saying this is also her thing, where she like has her camera and she'll be like, HR, um I got in trouble with HR for my outfit again, and then she's like on the phone with her HR person, and they're like I haven't seen that being mad about her outfit or because she did something, and it's like you this wouldn't happen to you this many times, okay? Right, like you guys did it twice or whatever. She ate's like all of her content, and it's like you would not be working at this place anymore if this was what was happening to you this often. Totally. So I enjoyed it.

SPEAKER_04 10:59

It's yeah, it was cute, fun to make, and I got a funny shirt out of it.

SPEAKER_02 11:02

I saw that. Wow, where'd you get that?

SPEAKER_04 11:04

TikTok shop. Like$4.95.

SPEAKER_02 11:06

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 11:07

But uh strictly for the job.

SPEAKER_02 11:10

That's good. Do I really I thought it it was funny? What do you guys what's happening next with uh G and T?

SPEAKER_00 11:17

We're kind of in like the You guys should make GTs.

SPEAKER_04 11:21

What's that?

SPEAKER_00 11:21

Gin and Tonics.

SPEAKER_04 11:23

Gin? Oh, gin. What so right away went to the spelling of our K-pop I gin. Um but yeah, gin.

SPEAKER_02 11:35

You guys should make uh G T makes G and Ts.

SPEAKER_04 11:41

You heard it here first, folks.

SPEAKER_02 11:42

That sounds so fun.

SPEAKER_04 11:43

That would be fun. Like we try to be bartenders and make a GT.

SPEAKER_00 11:46

Yes.

SPEAKER_04 11:47

Welcome to GT. And today we're making GT. What's that you ask?

SPEAKER_00 11:51

GT?

SPEAKER_04 11:52

It's a GT. We'll see. Uh but no, we're in the per like the planning stage right now, figuring out budgets, what's gonna happen. Um we have the we have a couple big brand deals that are getting organized. I think I told you off camera about them, right?

SPEAKER_00 12:09

You did not tell me this.

SPEAKER_04 12:10

Well, I'll tell you off camera.

SPEAKER_00 12:11

Wow, okay.

SPEAKER_04 12:13

Um yeah, but that's pretty much it. It's just been it's been a working week. I took down my Christmas decor as you can see. I rearranged it. We have a new setup. You're now on the other side of the screen. If you're watchers, you're probably like, what's happening?

SPEAKER_00 12:24

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 12:24

This is the new Allison when she's on the other side of the screen. Her hair's longer.

SPEAKER_02 12:27

I'm Hannah Montana.

SPEAKER_04 12:28

She's Hannah Montana.

SPEAKER_02 12:30

I did feel like that when I went back and forth um to working a corporate job, and then I would leave on Friday to go perform somewhere. And then and like I had fans and people were like taking pictures with me. Then I would come home and I would go back to work where like no one gave a crap about me. And I was like, what a weird thing. It is weird.

SPEAKER_04 12:53

Yeah, you really did live here in Montana. That's funny. But the rearranged living room, and now we have these lights behind us. Cute.

SPEAKER_00 13:00

Yeah. The the red looks good back there.

SPEAKER_04 13:02

The purple looks good back there.

SPEAKER_00 13:03

Okay, thank you.

SPEAKER_04 13:04

Okay, great. What is that? Whoa.

SPEAKER_00 13:06

Who is she? I need to get my nails done so bad. So don't like that.

SPEAKER_04 13:09

I got mine done.

SPEAKER_00 13:10

Oh my god, how did I not notice that? I don't know.

SPEAKER_04 13:12

Aren't they cool?

SPEAKER_00 13:13

Wait, where'd you get them done?

SPEAKER_04 13:14

Uh so my friend at work, Talia, she like for fun, does nail art. So, like on Tuesdays and Wednesdays on lunch breaks, like she'll just do people's nails for free because she wants to practice. So she's been working on chrome on me.

SPEAKER_05 13:26

Love.

SPEAKER_04 13:26

So I I got her, I turned her on to it. I was like, Can you try this? So, like back in September, she did it for the first time.

SPEAKER_05 13:31

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 13:32

And she's gotten better every time. And then next week she's gonna just do full silver chrome polish.

SPEAKER_02 13:38

Love that.

SPEAKER_04 13:39

But yeah.

SPEAKER_02 13:40

I saw a TikTok of one of those machines where you just like put your finger in and it paints something on it.

SPEAKER_04 13:46

You want to buy it?

SPEAKER_02 13:49

Yes. But like I would just like to do that.

SPEAKER_04 13:52

Um, don't they have them in some stores?

SPEAKER_02 13:55

Probably, but the thing is is uh they would have to have one that also puts like acrylic on, and that's not gonna happen.

SPEAKER_04 14:03

Yeah. The future.

SPEAKER_02 14:05

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 14:06

But anyway, that's all I've been doing. What have you been doing? How's the January challenge going?

SPEAKER_02 14:11

Yeah, that's all I've been doing. It's been good. We had uh this this week we did a f a new thing that we've never done before where we had a live stream where we just had people comment dances they want us to break down more. Back in the day, we used to do like produced tutorials.

SPEAKER_05 14:31

Oh.

January Challenge, Live Tutorials, And Active Booty Drops

SPEAKER_02 14:32

And it was kind of just like a lot of work for a little payoff.

SPEAKER_04 14:36

Oh, okay, okay.

SPEAKER_02 14:37

And so we stopped doing it.

SPEAKER_04 14:38

Got it.

SPEAKER_02 14:39

And like editing I see it.

SPEAKER_04 14:40

I see it.

SPEAKER_02 14:41

There's a bug. My god, what is happening? What kind of bug is it? Is it an at? It's a mosquito. Oh my god, no.

SPEAKER_04 14:50

No, I but I think it is. You don't want to get bit. I'll keep an eye on it.

SPEAKER_02 14:54

What are you gonna do from all the way over there?

SPEAKER_04 14:56

Keep an eye on it.

SPEAKER_02 14:59

Um, so we stopped doing those. Okay. And then we had this idea to during this have a a one night where we're like, okay, send us in what you want us to break down more and we'll go over it. We only got a few things done because in 30 minutes it was kind of hard to get a lot done. We did three things.

SPEAKER_03 15:18

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 15:19

And it went really well. And then the next day was an actual sweat session, and we got to we put those dances in.

SPEAKER_04 15:26

Got it. Okay.

SPEAKER_02 15:27

And then it was like you got to practice it and then do it live the next day. And it was actually a hit. So I think we're gonna keep doing those. I should plug. Please we active booty. We do have uh four new colorways of socks.

SPEAKER_05 15:42

Yes.

SPEAKER_02 15:42

That we um just launched a couple weeks ago. So if you're interested, we have a deep ocean blue, a deep ocean blue, a red that is uh deep crimson, and then both of those have the inverse. Yeah. Both of those have the inverse that is a white sock, and then the logo is the color. The color. And they're very comfortable.

SPEAKER_04 16:08

So are these your biggest seller socks?

SPEAKER_02 16:11

Hmm, no, I don't think so. It's just something easy. Not easy, but it's something like quickly we can produce that we I mean is quality and yeah, like we, it's all I wear. Yeah, it's they're very comfortable. We m uh modeled them after Bombas.

SPEAKER_04 16:27

So will you ever do crew?

SPEAKER_02 16:30

Oh, like taller?

SPEAKER_04 16:31

Yeah. Because I would just never wear this.

SPEAKER_02 16:33

No, I know. Some some people would, but I don't know if the market is big enough.

SPEAKER_04 16:40

Let our let us know, guys. Should they do an active booty crew?

SPEAKER_02 16:44

Yeah, but activebooty.com for Z Socks.

SPEAKER_04 16:48

Here's what I think a crew sock that at the top has one color stripe band and like a star, because that's your guys' logo, right? Yeah, and then active booty on the foot, like that.

SPEAKER_01 16:58

Okay. I'll pitch it.

SPEAKER_04 17:01

Pitch it with like a collegiate stripe. Do you know what I'm talking about?

SPEAKER_02 17:04

Yeah, to go with our collegiate collection.

SPEAKER_04 17:06

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 17:07

Uh we are working on something else that we can hopefully get out quickly. Fine. Like a different take on something we already have. So hopefully that will be happening soon so we can get something going.

SPEAKER_04 17:20

Yes.

SPEAKER_02 17:20

Yeah.

unknown 17:21

Okay, cute.

SPEAKER_02 17:22

But yeah, that's really it. The the January challenge.

SPEAKER_04 17:25

Is it every day?

SPEAKER_02 17:26

Every day there is something, um, either a a playlist for that's like been curated for that day for the people to do, or there's a live thing that we're doing.

unknown 17:37

Right.

SPEAKER_02 17:38

So we just gave I just gave Allison a foot five. Oh, I love that. Oh, a foot hug. Ew, don't do that. No, no.

SPEAKER_04 17:46

With my web toe.

SPEAKER_02 17:48

We uh somehow your web toe came up the other day.

SPEAKER_04 17:52

Because of Chloe?

SPEAKER_02 17:53

Yeah. Oh, because I asked if she if her family was also in the call. I couldn't remember. I was telling someone about the call, and then I was like, Oh, was your was your side of the family also involved? And she said no, and then the toenails obviously came up.

SPEAKER_04 18:07

Yeah, the toenail jar.

SPEAKER_02 18:09

And then and then feet came up. And then your web toes came up.

SPEAKER_04 18:15

It always leads back to web toes. Because her sister has them, my cousin Hillary has them.

SPEAKER_02 18:19

Oh, yeah, she did say that, and then she was like, but it's not genetic, right?

SPEAKER_04 18:21

And it has to be because also our grandpa Cooper.

SPEAKER_02 18:24

Yeah, there's no way it's not.

SPEAKER_04 18:25

And my brother.

SPEAKER_02 18:26

Okay, yeah, obviously it's genetic.

SPEAKER_04 18:28

Yeah. But it's like, did she talk about how it's like typically it comes with this thing called Timothy syndrome?

SPEAKER_02 18:34

No. What's Timothy syndrome?

SPEAKER_04 18:36

You're basically like a frail little person.

SPEAKER_02 18:39

That I think that was your destiny, and somehow you you overcame it. Because inside as a boy, you as a little boy, I think you were a frail being.

SPEAKER_04 18:53

My heart. Just like my soul.

SPEAKER_02 18:56

I didn't know you there, but from the stories I've heard, it does seem like you had some frailty inside of you.

SPEAKER_04 19:03

I was a frail lad that was often in the hospital. Yes. Yes. But my name was not Timothy, nor did I have the syndrome, just the web toes.

SPEAKER_01 19:12

Well, that's I mean, you know, it doesn't hurt. It helps you swim.

SPEAKER_04 19:15

But I veer to the right.

SPEAKER_02 19:18

I don't want to make fun of you. I don't want to.

SPEAKER_04 19:20

Well, too late. I'm kidding, I'm kidding. I am totally secure about them.

Webbed Toes, OnlyFans Jokes, And Foot Culture

SPEAKER_02 19:26

I mean, yeah, I also was like, I don't see them. Like, you're never toes out, so like I don't think of I forget every time.

SPEAKER_04 19:33

It is funny. Like, I do not have like a foot fetish, and I'm not do your thing. That's cool. But it was to my benefit in the dating scene. Having web toes.

SPEAKER_02 19:45

My gosh, why aren't you on OnlyFans?

SPEAKER_04 19:48

It's like I've never thought of that.

SPEAKER_02 19:50

That's have you thought of it?

SPEAKER_04 19:51

I had con there was a time I had considered 'cause you could just be doing like a hoe man and like not even show your jello and stuff.

SPEAKER_02 19:58

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 19:59

I know.

SPEAKER_02 20:00

You could be d wine stomping.

SPEAKER_04 20:02

Wine stomping.

SPEAKER_02 20:04

You don't even have to have your face.

SPEAKER_04 20:05

And they're size 13s. It was just really worked in my favor for the foot fighters community.

SPEAKER_02 20:09

Oh my gosh. You could do Lord of the Rings, like what? Fantasy fiction, feet fiction.

SPEAKER_04 20:15

Like feet. Put my feet in costumes.

SPEAKER_02 20:18

No, you could just put it hobbit feet. Yeah, you could just put like extra hair on.

SPEAKER_04 20:23

No, they're they're hairless. So I would have to put it.

SPEAKER_02 20:25

Yeah, you would have to do a like a Merkin for the foot.

SPEAKER_04 20:28

A Furkin.

SPEAKER_02 20:29

A Furkin. Dang it. Yes.

SPEAKER_04 20:34

I mean, you we essentially said it at the same time. Alright, I'm gonna get a Furkin and look for these puppies on OnlyFans.

SPEAKER_02 20:42

Oh, I feel insane.

SPEAKER_04 20:46

Because you feel like a different person. I like this. Who am I? I don't know, but she's funny.

SPEAKER_02 20:50

Okay, speaking of fetishes.

SPEAKER_04 20:52

Yeah. What? Great transition.

SPEAKER_02 20:54

Heated rivalry. How have we not talked about this?

SPEAKER_04 20:56

Yeah, I have thought of this every week for the last three weeks. I've been like, we have not talked about heated rivalry yet.

Heated Rivalry Reactions And Queer Romance Tropes

SPEAKER_02 21:01

I'm not finished with it.

unknown 21:02

What?

SPEAKER_02 21:03

I'm not up to date. Is it done? Yeah. Okay.

SPEAKER_04 21:05

Six episodes. That's it.

SPEAKER_02 21:06

I think I've seen four. So I think I'm ready for five. Is five the cottage?

SPEAKER_04 21:11

No, six. The last episode is the cottage.

SPEAKER_02 21:13

I don't know about the cottage.

SPEAKER_04 21:14

I just know the the finale is the cottage, and it is incredible. But the fifth episode is my favorite because of the ending, and I'm not gonna say why.

SPEAKER_02 21:21

Please don't.

SPEAKER_04 21:21

But it is my dream.

SPEAKER_02 21:24

Okay. Well, here's what I want to say.

unknown 21:26

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 21:26

I could actually care less about the main storyline. I know. And I've seen a lot of interviews of them as people, and I love them. Okay, yeah. Like not as their actors, not as their characters. Yeah. I think that they're so cute and funny as their like actual people.

SPEAKER_04 21:44

Okay, okay.

SPEAKER_02 21:45

Do not care about their storyline. I care about the other storyline.

SPEAKER_04 21:48

The barista.

SPEAKER_02 21:49

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 21:50

So that is why the last like the next episode, the fifth episode is my favorite.

SPEAKER_02 21:54

Okay. Because it's them.

SPEAKER_04 21:55

It's them.

SPEAKER_02 21:56

Yeah. Why are they not the main thing?

SPEAKER_04 21:59

So in the book series, they are their own book.

SPEAKER_01 22:01

Okay. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 22:02

So that should be your next series. Because he had rivalry is just the two leads, and then there's another book that's about the barista and okay.

SPEAKER_02 22:10

I want to say I have read a hockey smut book, but it wasn't gay.

SPEAKER_04 22:15

It wasn't gay, yeah. You gotta wa you gotta watch read the gay.

SPEAKER_02 22:17

Which is fine. I'll do it. Not opposed, but I think that the writing for the main storyline is kind of bad. Am I wrong? You're wrong. I feel like all they do is like say something like, oh.

SPEAKER_04 22:32

And then two years pass, and then they go home.

SPEAKER_02 22:35

He's like, Oh, come, do you want to come to my apartment? And then he's like, no.

SPEAKER_04 22:42

He's like, no, f you. And he's like, yes, you do.

SPEAKER_02 22:45

He's like, no, f you. And then he's like, yeah. And then they like do it, and then they like cuddle, and then they're like, he's mean to him again. Yeah. And then it's two years later. So this is why not understand.

SPEAKER_04 22:56

This is why you I think once you I mean, I was into it. If you well, if you once you get to episode six and you see that you know they're at their oldest, because like so much time is passing through each episode.

SPEAKER_03 23:08

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 23:08

So that the they're at their like oldest age coming up. Um and like you don't know why they go to the cottage, like why he goes to the cottage with him. That that is why I love episode five. You'll see. But the way that they come together in the last episode, it's like you will all of it you will be happier about.

SPEAKER_02 23:27

Okay. I mean, I get I get the tension, I get they can't be out, I get the oh, we see each other, you know, once every couple months because we're playing, we play against each other, but we live in different towns, so it's like the it took a lot it took a while for their relationship to develop into more than just hooking up because you know they didn't have the time to really like spend with each other. But I just thought the dialogue was so like not compelling to me. Well, and I thought that the barist the barista and the other hockey player was like way more Scott Hunter was way more fun to watch.

SPEAKER_04 24:08

That episode was so sad when he was looking at him on the at his birthday party and he just walked away.

SPEAKER_02 24:14

But I I will finish it.

SPEAKER_04 24:16

I just you can cut this out if it's too graphic, but I think the thing that's like kind of enticing is like the way that they have sex is the closest to what it actually is for gay men than a lot of other things I've seen.

SPEAKER_02 24:28

Okay, but my question is it it does feel like some of the position doesn't seem anatomically capable.

SPEAKER_04 24:38

And to I haven't seen anything that isn't. Oh, you haven't? Okay.

SPEAKER_02 24:42

Because I was watching it. Um, we don't have to cut that out. I don't think that was graphic. Um but yeah, there was one episode I was watching, and Josh was there, and he was like, he was like, I f we obviously we don't know the position of two men, but like it it seemed like the angles wouldn't have worked.

SPEAKER_04 25:07

I think I know what you're talking about, and I think because they weren't they were I think I know what you're talking about. Yeah. You can probably cut this out because this is graphic. Is it the scene when they're on a bed and he's sitting on top of him and just kind of pulls his pants down a little bit?

SPEAKER_02 25:20

Maybe.

SPEAKER_04 25:21

So they were jerking each other off.

SPEAKER_02 25:23

I think there was one part on a on a couch though that seemed that is what that is it.

SPEAKER_04 25:29

Okay, okay, okay. Yeah, so he there he's like holding both their dicks and jerking them off.

SPEAKER_02 25:33

Okay.

SPEAKER_04 25:34

There is no there was no anal intercourse happening. I think that is what because yes, there that's what confused people because he pulls his pants down but only halfway. Yeah. And then moves himself in a position that's like, what?

SPEAKER_00 25:45

Yeah, again.

SPEAKER_04 25:46

It's like, oh, that's what's happening.

SPEAKER_00 25:48

Okay.

SPEAKER_04 25:48

And that is that makes sense.

SPEAKER_00 25:51

Okay.

SPEAKER_04 25:52

And that's your gay sex lesson of the day.

The Traitors Predictions And Reality Cast Strategy

SPEAKER_02 25:56

Not to control the conversation, but another You're leading. Another show that starts tonight.

SPEAKER_04 26:05

The traitors, I know. We we need to do be like this should be a part of it now.

SPEAKER_02 26:09

Yeah. So here's my thing.

SPEAKER_04 26:10

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 26:10

Why don't we because we could watch it together. We can watch episode one together.

SPEAKER_04 26:15

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 26:15

But what I want to say is since we have seen nothing and it starts tonight, yeah. Why don't we pick who we think is going to be chosen as traitors?

SPEAKER_04 26:25

Oh, let's pick the trainers. There's got to be a bracket somewhere.

SPEAKER_02 26:30

Maybe.

SPEAKER_04 26:30

We should join one.

SPEAKER_02 26:31

Okay. A fantasy, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 26:33

A fantasy. I've done that for Game of Girls before. Yeah, there's an app for them because I did one for um what's what are those dudes that dress as girls? Drag race. That was crazy.

SPEAKER_00 26:49

You want me to cut that out?

SPEAKER_04 26:51

No shade. That is what's happening.

unknown 26:53

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 26:55

Oh my god. Um, okay. Well, I want to pick who we think is gonna be traitors. Okay. And then we can look for a fantasy league.

SPEAKER_04 27:04

I have my iPad, so let me look with you so you don't have to turn your computer around or I was gonna say, so you don't have to turn your computer around or talk to me.

SPEAKER_02 27:13

Okay. So for I'm just gonna read off the names quickly for the listeners.

SPEAKER_04 27:18

Really quick. What or what website are you on?

SPEAKER_02 27:20

Wikipedia.org.

SPEAKER_04 27:23

Can you set like text me the link? I have my texts on.org, baby.

SPEAKER_02 27:32

And they're always asking for money.

SPEAKER_04 27:34

They are.

SPEAKER_02 27:35

And I'm just I'm sorry, but I can't contribute to Wikipedia at this time in my life.

SPEAKER_04 27:40

No. Okay, I'm with you. Go ahead and read the names.

SPEAKER_02 27:43

Okay, I'm gonna read off the names for the listeners.

SPEAKER_04 27:45

Right.

SPEAKER_02 27:46

Natalie Anderson of The Amazing Race and Survivor, Yam Yam from Survivor 44, Mark Ballas, Dancing with the Stars, Rob Cesternino, Survivor, the Amazon, Steven Coletti, Laguna Beach, and Oh. And he was in that other show.

SPEAKER_04 28:04

The Hills.

SPEAKER_02 28:04

The OC. No.

SPEAKER_04 28:07

The real Orange County.

SPEAKER_02 28:10

No. He was in like a scripted show after that. Oh. It's not not it doesn't matter.

SPEAKER_04 28:15

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 28:16

Um, Candace Dillard Bassett from Real Wives of Potomac Real Housewives of Potomac.

SPEAKER_04 28:21

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 28:21

Ron Funches. Moira Higgins, Love Island, UK host, love her. Donna Kelsey, mother of Jason and Travis. Hilarious. Kristen Kish, top chef Seattle. She's badass. Love her. Tara Lupinski of the Olympic figure skating dynasty. Durinda Madley, Real Houseways in New York. Tiffany Mitchell, Big Brother23. Monet Exchange, RuPaul's Jag Race.

SPEAKER_04 28:47

Eric Nam. Oh yeah. I'm excited about this one.

SPEAKER_02 28:49

Eric Nam.

SPEAKER_04 28:50

Sorry, Nam. Eric Nam.

SPEAKER_02 28:51

K-pop musician. Michael Rappaport, actor, comedian. Rob Rausch from Love Island season five. Lisa Renna, Real Houseways at Beverly Hills. Caroline Stanberry, Ladies of London. Oh.

SPEAKER_04 29:05

It's spoiled for us.

unknown 29:07

Oh.

SPEAKER_04 29:09

I just realized it's showing us.

SPEAKER_02 29:10

Why did someone do it? Because it's already aired. Dang it. But we won't tell anyone. Dang it. Ian Terry from Big Brother 14. Colton Underwood. I never would have noticed that, by the way. The Bachelorette season 14. Johnny Weir, Figure Skater, and Portia Williams, Roe Hasways, Atlanta.

SPEAKER_04 29:32

Okay, I am surprised that this.

SPEAKER_02 29:34

That's not, I would have not picked these people.

SPEAKER_04 29:36

I would not have either. We're not going to tell anyone.

SPEAKER_02 29:38

Dang it. But that would have been such a fun point.

SPEAKER_04 29:41

I guess we could because this comes out on Monday. This will have way already aired.

SPEAKER_02 29:46

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 29:47

Okay, so we unfortunately see here on Wikipedia who the traders are.

SPEAKER_02 29:50

Yeah. Well, let's just say who we would have picked up. And mine would not have been these people.

SPEAKER_04 29:56

Oh, no, mine either. Um my first, I thought Mark Ballis was gonna be one.

SPEAKER_02 30:02

Oh, you did? I did. I don't think I did.

SPEAKER_04 30:05

I I knew I had a feeling Monet wasn't gonna be one because of what happened last time.

SPEAKER_02 30:10

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 30:11

Um you know what? Lisa Rina doesn't actually surprise me. I may have picked her.

SPEAKER_02 30:18

Okay.

SPEAKER_04 30:19

They're always gonna pick a housewife. I just don't even know much about Candace.

SPEAKER_02 30:26

Yes, I just don't Rob to me, I think he's gonna give himself away. I because he's just such not a drama person. Okay. Like in in Love Island, he there was like drama around him, but then like he just kind of ran away from it. And then after Love Island, he's just like, I don't wanna be in LA, I don't wanna be whatever. I want to just be in the woods like hunting snakes or whatever he does. And he just kind of is not into drama. Okay, and I feel like his personality to me is gonna be like reject being like a villain.

SPEAKER_05 31:04

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 31:05

But maybe I don't know, maybe he will lean into it. Well, let's see. So wait, the traders are Lisa Renna, Rob Rausch, and Candace Dillard Bassett. So we have two housewives, which I actually don't think that they would think.

SPEAKER_04 31:18

Yeah, I don't think they'll suspect that, no.

SPEAKER_02 31:21

I think that I could have seen Johnny Weir.

SPEAKER_04 31:25

Okay, yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 31:26

Because they since they clearly didn't make Monet a trader because of Bob. 100%. I could see then Johnny them also being like, well, I don't think that Monet is, so then not that Johnny's not a drag queen, but like just like in the same kind of feeling of a person. I could see them being like, well, then I don't think Johnny is either.

SPEAKER_04 31:47

I can see that.

SPEAKER_02 31:49

Um honestly, if I was gonna pick a housewife, I think I would have picked Dorinda. Just because she was so upset last year.

SPEAKER_04 32:00

She got out very early. Was it like week one or two?

SPEAKER_02 32:03

It was week one. It was week one. She was the first. Yeah, because she was just like being annoying about that whole that challenge where they had to go on the boats, and then they were left on the thing, and she was like really complaining and being annoying about it.

SPEAKER_04 32:17

But it's risky to make her like I feel like that is gonna almost give her away.

SPEAKER_02 32:21

That's true.

SPEAKER_04 32:22

She wasn't one last time, but she definitely is this time.

SPEAKER_02 32:25

I think I might have picked Natalie.

SPEAKER_04 32:28

Yeah?

SPEAKER_02 32:28

I think maybe Natalie, Johnny, and maybe like Michael Rabapore or maybe Moira, because she seems unassuming. She's like such a cute little Who's Ian Terry?

SPEAKER_04 32:43

I don't know who this is.

SPEAKER_02 32:44

Amazing Big Brother player.

SPEAKER_04 32:46

Oh.

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SPEAKER_02 32:48

He's very um, I think he might, they might suspect him to be because he's so analytical and so good at playing games. He's giving it the other big brother players. It's giving uh because he beat um Trisha Chrisha um no the blonde girl. Um Oh Dave? Yes, that was season fourteen was she was on. Yeah. Why can't I think of anyone's name right now? I'm so silly. So season fourteen was uh he beat Dan Giesling in the Oh yes, okay, okay, okay, okay. Because they were like Dan that he had done his Dan's funeral, and they were like, he has left all his morals at the door, which he did say he was gonna do. And so they were like, Ian is like such a smart, like little young guy, and we want to give it to him because he didn't he wasn't playing like the devil. Um but Brittany Haynes and Dan uh Janelle were on that season, so he did beat Janelle. But I think that people will assume that Ian is a traitor because Dan was a traitor, and because the season before that, who another big brother like winner was okay, okay, okay, okay.

SPEAKER_04 34:15

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 34:17

Wow.

SPEAKER_04 34:17

Well, I'm still excited to watch.

SPEAKER_02 34:19

I am excited too. Yeah, we should put that on while we're eating our dinner. Hell yeah. I think that's all the TV I'm aware of.

SPEAKER_04 34:31

That's it? That's all you've been aware of?

SPEAKER_02 34:33

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 34:33

I just saw the season finale of Real Housewives with Salt Lake City. Drama, drama, drama.

SPEAKER_02 34:38

Drama, drama, drama.

SPEAKER_04 34:39

Can't wait for the three-part reunion.

SPEAKER_02 34:42

Are you guys watching the sex lives of Mormon Wives or whatever? Is that what it's called?

SPEAKER_04 34:49

Secret lives.

SPEAKER_02 34:51

And you're not watching that? No. Okay.

SPEAKER_04 34:54

Are you? No. No, that's because that's not part of the TV you care about right now. Or that you're aware of.

SPEAKER_02 34:59

I don't care.

SPEAKER_04 35:00

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 35:02

Huh. Oh, something else that we need to talk about. It's two things involving Hillary Duff.

SPEAKER_04 35:07

Yes. But before that, the Golden Globes were yesterday, which for us is not today. It's not yesterday, and we will discuss them next week.

SPEAKER_02 35:16

We will?

SPEAKER_04 35:17

Like, what do you want to discuss them now? No, because we already did with Angela.

SPEAKER_02 35:22

Yeah. I didn't watch them.

SPEAKER_04 35:24

They're not on till next week. Like, I'm telling them.

SPEAKER_02 35:28

Oh, I'm also telling them. I'm not gonna wait. The goal oh, that was Critic's Choice.

SPEAKER_04 35:32

Whoa, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 35:33

That was Critic's Choice. I was like, the standout moment is that Timothy Chalamet confirmed finally confirmed Kylie. Three years partnership. Loved that. Love her.

SPEAKER_04 35:44

And she went.

SPEAKER_02 35:44

I love you. So cute. Okay. Okay, well, we need to talk about Hillary Duff. Which do you want to talk about Toxic Mom Group or do you want to talk about a new single first?

SPEAKER_04 35:55

I haven't been able to listen to the new single yet.

SPEAKER_02 35:56

Well, I don't think it's been released.

SPEAKER_04 35:58

She teased it on her Instagram. I wasn't even able to listen with sound yet.

SPEAKER_02 36:01

If I play that little bit, do you think it'll get claimed?

SPEAKER_04 36:04

Probably yeah. Dang it. So show me.

Hilary Duff’s Spicy Teaser And Mom Group Drama

SPEAKER_02 36:06

Do you want me to read you the lyrics? Yeah, okay. It's kind of crazy.

SPEAKER_04 36:08

Yeah, please, please, please.

SPEAKER_02 36:11

Guys, this is gonna get explicit. Okay. This is the teaser. I only want the beginning. I don't want the end. I want the part where you say, God damn. Back in a dive bar. Oh, sorry. Back of a dive bar, giving you head, then sneak home late. Wake up in your wake up your roommates. I don't know how this rhymes. I want the highlights, 10 out of 10. The butterflies from holding your hand before we swept us under the bed and became practically roommates. Roommates is twice in this.

SPEAKER_04 36:47

Is the song called roommates?

SPEAKER_02 36:48

Nope. It's I don't know what it's called. Maybe it's called Roommates. I'm touching myself by the front door, but you don't even look my way no more.

SPEAKER_04 36:58

You Ike Hillary. So mature.

SPEAKER_02 37:02

So mature. For your age.

SPEAKER_04 37:05

Which I love that song. I do like it.

SPEAKER_02 37:07

And I like the sound of this song, of the new one. It's just like the lyrics are a lot. Yeah. But also, no, you know what I don't like? I do not like the take that just because she hasn't had like explicit songs before doesn't mean she can't. And it doesn't mean because she's older, it's all of a sudden like she's because she's a mom and because she's older, like she can't be sexual. Yeah. Like, I'm so sorry, but this is no different than I get wet at the thought of you being a responsible guy.

SPEAKER_04 37:48

What are you saying?

SPEAKER_02 37:49

The Serena Carpenter song.

SPEAKER_01 37:51

I get wet at the thought of you. Responsible guy.

SPEAKER_04 37:58

That's the lyrics.

SPEAKER_01 37:59

Treating me like you're supposed to. Tears run down my thighs.

SPEAKER_04 38:06

That's the lyrics.

SPEAKER_01 38:09

Yes.

SPEAKER_04 38:10

Do we have under a rock?

SPEAKER_01 38:12

Yes.

SPEAKER_04 38:12

I filmed your dance video to that.

SPEAKER_02 38:14

We did it a lot of times.

SPEAKER_04 38:16

Anyway.

SPEAKER_02 38:17

But those are the lyrics, and how is that any different? Just because Hillary Duff is a mom and older, it's like, oh, oh no.

SPEAKER_04 38:24

No, I she's I didn't I support it fully.

SPEAKER_02 38:28

Yeah, and I do understand like the art of the like subtlety, I think is is more maybe interesting.

SPEAKER_05 38:39

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 38:40

Like I was listening to a podcast and they were talking about this, and I did not agree with their take because it was like, oh no, Hillary's being too sexual. But they did say, like, Haley Steinfeld, her one song about touching herself, but you don't know it's about that until you really think about it. Do you know what the song is? I love May. Yeah. And I love myself. I don't know.

SPEAKER_04 39:04

But like anyway, day or night.

SPEAKER_02 39:06

That is a subtle way, you know, of saying it that like you you don't really get until you really like think about it more. And I do think that that's probably like a more, you know. What word what is the word I'm trying to say? Subtle. Subtle and just like um discreet. But like it's a higher, it's a higher cognitive level of lyrics.

SPEAKER_05 39:33

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 39:34

And is that like better? I don't know.

SPEAKER_03 39:36

Right.

SPEAKER_02 39:37

Yes, no. Maybe so. Some some might say, like, you know, you just not just being like, yeah, let's do it. Versus like saying it in a more eloquent way.

SPEAKER_05 39:48

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 39:50

But I don't like the idea that it's like okay when Sabrina does it because she's a a young hot thing and she doesn't have kids and blah blah blah. But it's like not okay when Hillary does it.

SPEAKER_04 40:02

We stand for Hillary Duff doing this.

SPEAKER_02 40:04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 40:04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 40:05

So the other part of Hillary is that she's part of big mom drama. Yes. Right now.

SPEAKER_04 40:10

I love this. And her husband did the love this.

SPEAKER_02 40:13

So if you guys aren't aware, um, big drama this week between Hilary Duff and the other mom group versus Ashley Tisdale.

SPEAKER_04 40:28

Yeah, I was like Miss Sharpe Evans.

SPEAKER_02 40:30

So I have a little summary to read you so that everyone can be caught up. So read it. Earlier this week, former high school musical star Ashley Tisdale published a personal essay in the cut about why she left what she described as a toxic mom group and she had joined after becoming a mother. In the piece, Tisdale says she initially felt a sense of belonging with other moms in the group, but over time they began, she began feeling increasingly excluded and hurt by subtle social media dynamics and being left out of gatherings, likening the experience to high school uh cliques and drama. The article sparked intense online speculation because the group was widely believed to include other well-known celebrity moms such as Hillary Duff, Mandy Moore, Megan Trainer, and more. Though Tisdale didn't name anyone specifically, soon after the essay went public, tension grew on social media. Hillary Duff's husband, Matthew Coma, posted a satirical mock headline, seemingly mocking Tisdale and calling her self-obsessed and tone-deaf, which fueled further discussion and controversy. Reactions have spilled into the wider celebrity and fan world, including social media gestures and figures like Hillary's sister, Haley Duff, who we know they don't mess with each other. Hillary and Haley don't like each other.

SPEAKER_04 41:45

They're not in great terms.

SPEAKER_02 41:46

Yeah. Who liked the viral essay post and commentary from others weighing in. Meanwhile, Tisdale's team said she wasn't trying to call out specific people, but rather to highlight a broader experience many moms can relate to.

SPEAKER_04 41:57

Okay, Ashley, no.

SPEAKER_02 41:59

Yeah, that's backtracking. Like all you did was post about your mom group.

SPEAKER_04 42:03

Right. So the consensus is that in Hollywood that she's not a great person.

SPEAKER_02 42:09

Ashley?

SPEAKER_04 42:09

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 42:10

I didn't really know that prior to this, but I wasn't seeking out whether she was or not.

SPEAKER_04 42:14

And boyfriend went to high school with her.

SPEAKER_02 42:16

Oh, does he have thoughts? Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 42:19

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 42:20

Okay. That tracks.

SPEAKER_04 42:22

You know? Yeah. It's a little rough.

SPEAKER_02 42:24

I think that's a good thing.

SPEAKER_04 42:25

Did you see Megan Trainor's TikTok?

SPEAKER_00 42:28

What was it?

SPEAKER_04 42:28

It was just her song, her new song that's like I don't care, whatever.

SPEAKER_00 42:32

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 42:33

Um, and she's and then she's like typing on the computer, being like, log in real quick to check on the mom drama.

SPEAKER_02 42:40

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_04 42:40

And the song is I don't care.

SPEAKER_02 42:42

Nice. Yeah. I think like nice. I think that Hillary probably wouldn't have let her husband get involved.

SPEAKER_05 42:52

Correct. I agree.

SPEAKER_02 42:53

If it wasn't warranted. Yeah. And I think, oh, so Chelsea Hanler commented on Mandy Moore, and she was like, Mandy is a great person. I love her. Don't, I don't know, Ashley, but if Mandy is involved, like basically like I'm on the side of Mandy. Wow. So we have a character witness. Witness for Mandy Moore.

SPEAKER_04 43:18

And then we have all of us for Hillary.

SPEAKER_02 43:20

Yeah. And what I want to say is I'm sure just because they're celebrities doesn't mean they're any different than us. And there are, as we know.

SPEAKER_05 43:32

Who us?

SPEAKER_02 43:34

Friendship. Big groups of friends are hard. Especially big groups with lots of. I disagree, I think. And you know, sometimes at some point, like people find their niches, and that's okay. And I do get it, like in a bigger group, if Ashley was like being insane.

SPEAKER_03 43:56

Yeah.

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SPEAKER_02 43:57

Or just like if if she her personality wasn't aligning with others in the group, I don't think it's like that weird for a big group of people to have smaller gatherings. That like if two people are like, oh my god, we live this close to each other, let's let's go get coffee or whatever.

SPEAKER_05 44:19

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 44:20

Then I don't think that's a indication that they hate other people in the group. I think it's just you, if you never have one-on-one time with anyone else in that group, you're never going to actually have like a deep connection with anyone.

SPEAKER_05 44:36

Right, right, right.

SPEAKER_02 44:37

You actually have to like see people individually to grow that friendship. Right. So inherently, small factions of a big group doesn't mean that there's a fraction. Right.

SPEAKER_04 44:50

But maybe she just never was getting called for a solo.

SPEAKER_02 44:53

Which like I get. Totally. But I think that at our age, at her age, I think you have to communicate and you have to go like, hey guys.

SPEAKER_03 45:04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 45:04

I know I saw that you guys hung out without me, and I totally understand like that's your right to do. But I I'm not gonna lie, I feel I feel left out. I had FOMO, and I wanna I just wanted to double check, like, is there an issue that we need to talk through? And if there isn't, that's cool, but I would love to be involved the next time you guys hang out. And if they're like, actually, like, yeah, you've been being really negative lately, and you know, that really weighed on it killed our vibe. Yeah. And we honestly didn't want to like be around negativity, and that's why we, you know, had to hang out without you. Yeah, and we're sorry about that. And if you totally, if you want to be involved, happy to have you. Yeah, but also like we can't the negative energy like does bring us down. And then that gives Ashley the chance to be like, you know what, I'm gonna reflect on myself. I'm gonna try not to be negative. Yeah, but if you don't communicate, then there's no resolution. And if you just keep it all balled up inside and then you write a public essay, then yeah, they don't mess with you anymore. Sorry.

SPEAKER_04 46:19

Right.

SPEAKER_02 46:20

I don't know.

SPEAKER_04 46:21

Sorry, girl. I gotta communicate. I don't think it it delivered the way she thought it would, maybe.

SPEAKER_02 46:25

No, she thought she was doing something.

SPEAKER_04 46:27

Yes, she really thought she was.

SPEAKER_02 46:28

And if these girls were actually being mean girls to her, then I don't like that.

SPEAKER_04 46:32

Yeah, I don't either. You know what I will say this did for us, though?

SPEAKER_02 46:35

What?

SPEAKER_04 46:36

It just gave Hillary Duff more amplification, which is great for when she drops her album.

SPEAKER_02 46:40

Yeah, that's why she put I don't know if if the timeline was later for the song, but I think her team was like, tease her out now.

SPEAKER_04 46:49

We got all eyes on Hillary, put her out. Yeah. Smart.

SPEAKER_02 46:52

So I'm I'm excited to hear the whole song, but I can't wait to listen after we stop recording. Oh yeah.

unknown 46:59

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 47:00

Cute. Do you want to do A-list of the week while I bring up the birthdays that I totally did write down?

SPEAKER_04 47:05

100%. All right. Well, it's time for A-list of the week. I love a run. Okay, so my A-list this week is. Oh my god. See, this is why we have an iPad.

SPEAKER_02 47:21

Yes. Today the 8th is Cynthia Revo's birthday, just to let you know. Happy birthday to you. But really, we're talking about the 12th, which is not today. Today when we're recording, not the actual.

SPEAKER_04 47:32

I gotta get to my, sorry, I gotta get to my whoa, what's this? My standards for dating. I don't really want to read that right now.

SPEAKER_01 47:44

Okay, we got some people.

SPEAKER_02 47:48

I mean, my was my A-list last week Popstar Academy?

SPEAKER_04 47:51

No.

SPEAKER_02 47:52

Okay, it is this week.

SPEAKER_04 47:53

Popstar Academy? Yeah. And I cannot find my thing. And uh anything for oh, just you recommend it.

SPEAKER_05 48:05

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 48:05

Okay. My A-list of the week is God. What do I have to be A-list for? Oh sorry.

SPEAKER_02 48:19

Real Housewives?

SPEAKER_04 48:21

No. My A-list of the ice cream.

SPEAKER_02 48:23

Your ice cube machine?

SPEAKER_04 48:24

Thank you. My A-list of the week is my ice maker. Boyfriend got me an ice maker for Christmas. It was dented. We sent it back at the new one. K.

SPEAKER_05 48:32

Oh, good, good, good, good.

SPEAKER_04 48:33

And what a game changer having an ice maker. And it's like it crumbles. I don't know how to explain it. Bite one of those.

SPEAKER_02 48:40

I will.

SPEAKER_04 48:40

And it just crumbles.

SPEAKER_02 48:43

So here's the thing as an ice connoisseur myself. I don't know how I haven't done that yet.

SPEAKER_04 48:48

Truly.

SPEAKER_02 48:49

I haven't got one of those myself.

SPEAKER_04 48:50

The best part of waking up is fold. No.

unknown 48:59

Yes.

SPEAKER_02 49:00

That was a missed opportunity on your part.

SPEAKER_04 49:02

Truly. But it was. Um the best ice is nugget ice.

SPEAKER_01 49:08

Yes.

SPEAKER_04 49:08

And those at home ice makers are very expensive.

SPEAKER_01 49:11

Why?

SPEAKER_04 49:12

Because it's a it's a different kind of freezing system that makes them that shape. This is a pretty affordable one. Like this one's around$70. Because it it's like six cylinders that just like grow that. It's fast.

SPEAKER_02 49:25

Yeah, how is it that? Is it do they use like a dry ice situation in there? No.

SPEAKER_04 49:29

No, it's frit- it's refrigerator. It's like a it's like a f it's a freezer.

SPEAKER_02 49:32

Yeah, but normal freezers don't go that fast.

SPEAKER_04 49:36

Freezers don't make ice, but they would if you poured water in them. Wait, wait, wait. I see what you're saying. Like an ice cube tray you put in the freezer.

SPEAKER_00 49:42

Yeah, it doesn't work that fast.

SPEAKER_04 49:43

Well, this is like a cylinder that is frozen that the water spreads around, and then it like blobs them out six at a time. From the time you put water in, I have not had to refill the water yet, by the way. And I've been running this for a week now. No, since Sunday. Um what was I saying? Oh, it makes six cubes of ice every ten minutes.

SPEAKER_02 50:09

Here's my thing. I do I go through a lot of ice. Do you what I as a single person?

SPEAKER_04 50:14

This is great because I also go through a lot of ice. As soon as you scoop, it immediately starts making more.

SPEAKER_02 50:19

Okay.

SPEAKER_04 50:20

So it fills the basket, it knows when it's full, you take a scoop out, it starts making more. So technically, you could dump the basket in the freezer, have it keep going, and then you'll always have a fresh batch. Yeah. That is my plan.

SPEAKER_02 50:31

Because I go through it so much. I physically, if if I had to refill my cubes, my tray every time, that would be my full-time job. I would do nothing else all day but continue to fill up my ice cube trays.

SPEAKER_04 50:46

That was like the best part of the house we had.

SPEAKER_02 50:49

I know.

SPEAKER_04 50:49

Was that we just had an ice cube?

SPEAKER_02 50:52

I know.

Birthdays, Pop Culture On This Day, And Audiobook Bit

SPEAKER_04 50:52

Remember when it broke and we were like, no, this is actually main priority. Get us a new fridge now.

SPEAKER_02 50:57

Yeah, it was bad. But now I just have to continue to buy bags of ice.

SPEAKER_04 51:01

They're like, well, yeah, it seems that rats tore up the oh, that was the dishwasher.

SPEAKER_02 51:05

Yeah, it wasn't. There was a lot going on there.

SPEAKER_04 51:08

Anyway, ice.

SPEAKER_02 51:10

Yeah. You want the birthdays for today, January 12th?

SPEAKER_04 51:14

Happy birthday. January 12th. So one month till my birthday.

SPEAKER_02 51:21

My dad's birthday was yesterday, and my sister's birthday is tomorrow. In real life, or in January 11th is my dad's birthday. January 13th is my sister's birthday.

SPEAKER_04 51:29

She's so close to your dad's birthday.

SPEAKER_02 51:32

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 51:33

Shout out, dad. Shout out Amanda.

SPEAKER_02 51:34

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 51:34

We know you're listening.

SPEAKER_02 51:36

Uh today though, Zayn Malik is 33.

SPEAKER_04 51:39

R.I.P.

SPEAKER_02 51:40

Jeff Nope.

SPEAKER_04 51:42

That was Shane or um Liam. Liam.

SPEAKER_02 51:47

Yeah. Jeff Bezos is 62.

unknown 51:50

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 51:50

Naira Vera. R.I.P. I don't know how old. She was born in 1987.

SPEAKER_04 51:56

So she would have been what's two years less than 40? 38.

SPEAKER_01 52:00

38. Oh no.

SPEAKER_04 52:04

87, 39. Because it's two times on six.

SPEAKER_02 52:10

Howard Stern is 72. Issa Ray is 41. If you guys live in Los Angeles, you should oh my gosh, I just had a stroke. You should go to Issa Rae's restaurant called Somerville. It's really good.

SPEAKER_05 52:22

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_02 52:24

Rob Zombie 61. Kirsti Alley, R.I.P.

SPEAKER_04 52:30

A couple RIPs.

SPEAKER_02 52:36

Dina Nicole Cortiz, 39.

SPEAKER_05 52:38

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 52:39

Do you know who that is? Uh from Jersey Shore. Dina. Dina, yeah. Yeah, her full name is kind of. I should have said Dina from. Okay, and now entertainment. Mean Girls, the musical, the movie. That's not how you say it.

SPEAKER_04 52:56

We saw that.

SPEAKER_02 52:57

Released in 2024 on this day. 90-day fiance premiered in 2014. Hilary Duff, Lizzie McGuire premiered in 2001. King of the Hill 1997. The movie Next Friday, 2000. Say the Last Dance, 2001. Well.

SPEAKER_04 53:16

Some of the best dancing ever in movies was Sin Say the Last Dance.

SPEAKER_02 53:20

Ever. The song Despacito, which we just put a song out, finally, a dance out. 2017.

SPEAKER_04 53:28

Does that sound weird in your ears because you have headphones on? Like, really? Could I read? Would you listen to an audiobook read by me? Because of all the voices I heard.

SPEAKER_02 53:37

Say something else. Oh no, I'm gonna give you, I'm gonna give you an excerpt from one of my books to read.

SPEAKER_04 53:45

Yes, yes, yes. Okay. And happy birthday to all of those people and the entertainment.

SPEAKER_02 53:52

I did. I did not give you an explicit one just because you know.

SPEAKER_04 53:57

Okay, so give me some context. So context. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 54:00

This is Resand.

SPEAKER_04 54:01

This is a man.

SPEAKER_02 54:02

This is he is a man. He's one of the bat boys. Bat boys. He's the main character. The most powerful.

SPEAKER_04 54:11

Are they British?

SPEAKER_02 54:13

He can be if you want him to.

SPEAKER_04 54:14

Oh, so it's up to my interpretation. It's up to your interpretation.

SPEAKER_02 54:16

He is the most powerful um being, basically. His magic he has like the most intense magic possible. Fera, the um main character of the first book, is his mate.

SPEAKER_05 54:31

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 54:32

And he is like bro, he's like pretty dark hair, brooding, very like, he's always putting his hands in his pockets in a very like attractive way.

SPEAKER_04 54:46

Is he like low still and mysterious? Yes.

SPEAKER_02 54:50

He has violet eyes.

SPEAKER_04 54:51

Violet.

SPEAKER_02 54:52

Yes.

SPEAKER_04 54:53

Purple.

unknown 54:54

Purple.

SPEAKER_04 54:54

Okay. Alright, ladies and gentlemen. What's his name?

SPEAKER_02 55:01

Re-Sand.

unknown 55:02

Okay.

SPEAKER_04 55:04

This is Re Sand. I have been broken. Remade. Shattered into dust and rebuilt with claws and shadows and a heart that bleeds for those I love. I was not born to kneel. But I have bowed for those who needed a hand to raise. I am the nightmare they fear and the dream they long for. And if you dare to threaten my court, my friends, or the ones whose damn it. And if you dare to threaten my court, my friends, or the one who holds my soul in her hands, then you will see just how beautifully destruction can be delivered under a sky full of stars.

SPEAKER_02 55:49

Nice. I liked the low, I liked the slower cadence.

SPEAKER_04 55:53

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 55:54

I like it.

SPEAKER_04 55:54

I don't really know what the scene was, but that was my best work.

SPEAKER_02 55:57

I don't actually remember what it's what it's from. Oh, it's from a core of Mist and Fury.

SPEAKER_04 56:01

Should I audition?

SPEAKER_02 56:02

Yeah.

Reality Show Submissions And Sign‑Off

SPEAKER_04 56:02

Okay. Um, something I did forget to say that I'm gonna say on here because I'd like to mark this moment in case it happens. I auditioned. Nope. I submitted for a new reality competition show.

SPEAKER_02 56:12

A new, okay.

SPEAKER_04 56:15

Not gonna give any details on the pod, but please send me good vibes. I'll tell you off.

SPEAKER_02 56:18

Okay.

SPEAKER_04 56:19

Because you should probably also apply.

SPEAKER_02 56:20

Okay. I still need to send in for the Traders US.

SPEAKER_04 56:23

Yeah, the non-celebrate version.

SPEAKER_02 56:25

Yeah, it's still open, so I but I need to do that.

SPEAKER_04 56:27

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 56:28

Okay. Well, everyone.

SPEAKER_04 56:30

Thanks for listening and watching.

SPEAKER_01 56:31

We love you so much.

SPEAKER_04 56:32

Have a good week.

SPEAKER_01 56:33

Bye.