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Alex Hinsky

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Welcome Back & A Rough Week

SPEAKER_04 0:00

Hi.

SPEAKER_00 0:00

Hey.

SPEAKER_05 0:01

How's it going?

SPEAKER_00 0:03

What a week it's been.

SPEAKER_06 0:04

Yeah.

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For those of you that don't know, it's February. Early February.

SPEAKER_04 0:12

How would they not know?

SPEAKER_00 0:14

For those of you that know, you guys know it's early February.

SPEAKER_04 0:17

You guys know.

SPEAKER_00 0:18

What Allison's probably referring to is I posted that. I posted a video on earlier this week that I was like, it's 34 days into the month, and I've attended two funerals and had$3,000 stolen. So we'll get into that in a second. But first.

SPEAKER_03 0:30

Yeah, I can't wait to hear.

SPEAKER_04 0:44

Welcome back to the A-List podcast with Allison and Alex. I'm Allison. He's Alex.

SPEAKER_00 0:51

Yeah.

Spotting $2K Missing And Calling The Bank

SPEAKER_04 0:52

You uh what?

SPEAKER_00 0:53

Let's just get right into it because it has been like, guys, we're recording on a Friday. This episode you're listening to, we recorded it three days ago. But for me, I'm gonna talk in the the week that we're currently in so as not to confuse Allison and myself.

SPEAKER_05 1:06

Right.

SPEAKER_00 1:06

It is Friday, we're recording. On Monday morning, I get up, I start paying bills. As you know, I sent you some money, and I was like paying bills, budgeting for my the month, and I was looking at my calculations and I was$2,000 off at the end of it.

SPEAKER_04 1:24

I was like Like you should have had$2,000 more in your banking.

SPEAKER_00 1:28

Yeah, from the in when I did the math with my balance in accordance to the bills I paid. I was like, hmm, I'm not usually off by more than like$30, and it's because I forgot about I don't know, an Uber East charge or something.

SPEAKER_06 1:41

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:42

So I go into my transactions and I have three transactions, one for$1.50, followed by two over$1,000 transactions. From what I could see, you know, when transactions are pending, you don't really see all the information until they posted. So what I was able to see like a few letters that were maybe abbreviations of a word, and that it was my debit card. So I was like, So I call my bank and I'm like, hey, so there's these three charges. It's very obvious they did this$1.50 charge to see if it would work, and then they did the two large transactions.

SPEAKER_06 2:16

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 2:17

And what I was able to find based off of the little information in the pending c the pending uh description was that um it looked like it was an a loan company and that it was a place that gives out loans specifically in like gaming situations. Like if you're a gambler in Vegas and you need a thousand dollars really quick.

SPEAKER_04 2:38

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_00 2:38

And there's like it's a high interest loan. Yeah, that's fast and it's I'm so scared of those. I would never and so I was like, all right, well, this will be easy to dispute because I didn't do that. Yeah, I'm not in Las Vegas. Um, so I talked to the fraud department. They obviously canceled my card, which was annoying because I've loved my card. Now it doesn't matter, so I'm telling everyone. The security code was my favorite because it was 321.

SPEAKER_04 3:03

They gave that to you or you made that?

SPEAKER_00 3:06

You know, SS SVV or whatever code.

SPEAKER_04 3:09

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 3:10

Stanley, could you pick a quieter toy? Um 321, I loved it. Plus, like my this debit card expires next year. So I was gonna have to replace it next year, but that means I've had it for four years. So it's like all of my auto withdraws. You know what?

SPEAKER_04 3:27

I would say you had a good run.

SPEAKER_00 3:29

I had a good run. But four years of like that being like it's like my Disney passes away. Yeah, everything. So I was like, all right, well, there it at least we caught this early. Like cancel it, she reissues a card. And then I didn't know this because I've not had to get a new card in a long time. That while waiting for the physical card to come, they can give you an Apple wallet card.

SPEAKER_05 3:52

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_00 3:52

Like they can give me a digital card number.

SPEAKER_05 3:55

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 3:56

Which is the same as the new debit card, but I you they won't let you see it, just the last four digits of it.

SPEAKER_05 4:02

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 4:02

And that's because that's how Apple Pay works. It's enough, it's encrypted, so it's safer.

SPEAKER_06 4:09

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 4:09

And I was like, okay, great. So like business as usual, mostly. Like I can't use Apple Pay on a lot of things digitally, like online, but I can at least get gas and um okay. I think go ahead, go ahead.

SPEAKER_04 4:24

I feel like you can tap to pay for gas.

SPEAKER_00 4:27

That's yeah, that's what I mean. I could get gas and groceries. But I wouldn't be able to get like Amazon purchases and stuff because they don't take Apple Pay. I've tried. I've tried.

SPEAKER_04 4:37

Oh, they let me put in my Apple Pay card manually.

SPEAKER_00 4:40

Probably, yes. But not you can't use Apple Pay. It's not like in the checkout, it's not an option. So um I think okay, well, this is annoying because I'm out$2,000 until this investigation is done. But oh well, I guess like it's better than loot than having drained my account.

SPEAKER_06 4:57

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 4:58

Okay, so I carry on business as usual. Um and thank God for I have a credit card and I have my Venmo debit card. So I was like, right before I was able to get money from my checking account to my Venmo account, so I could at least like use that.

SPEAKER_05 5:16

Right.

Digital Wallet Compromised And Apple ID Reset

SPEAKER_00 5:17

Um because I didn't know about the digital wallet thing. So I was like, okay, well, I'm really okay then. Then Monday I go about my day, still like that's all I can think about. I'm like constantly checking my account still because I'm stressed.

SPEAKER_06 5:30

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 5:31

And then Tuesday morning I wake up and I am still like obsessively of first thing I do, I wake up and I open my bank account. It's a thousand dollars less again. I was like, I look another transaction. No, it was the new card number. And I was like, How? Yeah, it's only on my phone.

SPEAKER_06 5:49

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 5:50

And only the last four digits. So I'm like panicked, I call, I get sent to the fraud department this time, and I'm like, here's the situation. Already opened a claim on these other three transactions. We need to open a claim on this one, and what the hell is going on?

SPEAKER_06 6:05

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 6:06

He was like, Okay, so first we're we have to issue you another new debit card because now this number has been compromised. So sorry, you're gonna have to, it's another add another day to this whole thing. And we're gonna cancel your digital number, and you're not, we're not gonna give you a new one. So just wait for the physical one to come while we're investigating where these happened. Um and so sorry. And I was like, yeah, this is this sucks. I then get an email from Apple while I'm still on the phone with the guy because he's just like checking all the all the things, making sure I did the process. He I get an email from Apple that's like changes made to your account accepted and the location was over, it was in another country. I was like, so I asked him, I was like, is this because you removed my the card from my Apple wallet? He was like, No, you should have gotten an email that says like your card has been removed from your wallet. Right as he's saying that, I refresh and there's that email.

SPEAKER_06 7:00

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 7:00

So I was like, what the hell is this? And so he was like, When was the last time you changed your Apple ID? And I was like, Let me check. 2020. I was like, oh my god.

SPEAKER_04 7:10

Your password for your Apple ID for Apple. Not gonna lie, I have to change mine constantly because I keep forgetting forget it.

SPEAKER_00 7:17

Not I. And I was like, okay, this so did someone does someone have my Apple ID login? He's like, it's possible you have malware on one of your devices that was able to get your account information. He was like, change your password immediately. So then I get off the phone with him, I change my Apple password, which as I just mentioned hasn't been changed since 2020. And my everything I have is Apple. We're talking my home pods in my home.

SPEAKER_06 7:42

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 7:49

Like freaking the F out. Nothing works. I can't make anything work. I was like, all right, well, I guess like I will just go into the office and make the best of it. So I brought my personal computer to the office, and for four hours it was resyncing everything. And I was like, You have a lot going on. Yeah, I was like, this is so stressful. I don't, I don't like, I don't know what to do. So I go about Tuesday, I'm able to release it. I'm like, whatever. Yeah. Now I'm at like$3,100 and dollars and a and a dollar fifty.

SPEAKER_04 8:18

Sorry, the other transaction, the fourth one, was also the same like loan place or something different.

SPEAKER_00 8:25

No, this one's different. Sorry, thank you for mentioning that. So this place was different. It was from somewhere, something I'm not gonna say actually what it is in case this is a whole thing, but different. So then I get through Tuesday, Wednesday morning. I wake up. Oh, also he moved everything from my checking account into my savings account. He's like this way, just in case they are able to get your checking account number, let's like put everything in a different place. He turned off auto like uh overdraft protection so that if something does charge, it'll just decline rather than give me that$35. 100%. I don't want to be charged$35 for overdraft.

SPEAKER_04 8:58

Have I ever told you about when my my freshman year of college?

SPEAKER_00 9:01

No, did you get caught on I it's happened to me too?

SPEAKER_04 9:03

Yeah, I'll tell you after.

SPEAKER_00 9:04

My like$200 one time. I was like, of just overdraft fees. I screamed at the teller.

SPEAKER_04 9:09

I was like, I'm a college student. Oh my god, me too. I cried. I'll tell you.

SPEAKER_00 9:13

I was literally like, Do you have kids?

SPEAKER_04 9:15

Does this don't mean anything to you?

SPEAKER_00 9:16

Like I was savage, but I could like$200 when you're 21.

SPEAKER_04 9:19

I was like, Yeah, it was insane.

SPEAKER_00 9:21

This is my budget for the for two weeks. Literally. Um, anyway. So thankfully they did that. And I was like, I don't know why I didn't think about that the day before. Like, I have I have moved all of my money to my savings for way less security breaches. I don't know why I didn't think to do that.

SPEAKER_06 9:35

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 9:36

Um so secured what I had, and then Wednesday I wake up, check my account, and the first three transactions have now posted. And I can see the full description of them, and they are not the site that I thought it was. And it is, in fact, another website where you can sign up for a low um monthly fee. You be you they will pay your rent on the first of the month and then split it into two payments for you so you don't have to pay everything up front. That's what this company does. Sounds like an awesome service to be honest. So, what has happened is someone was using my card on their account to make those two monthly payments. However, they made both of the payments on the same day, 20 minutes apart. That is not how this company operates. Yeah. So someone's using that company, they're scamming both of us.

SPEAKER_06 10:25

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 10:26

So I call my bank again. I was like, hey, I see this is happening now. And also, I don't know if this has happened to you, but sometimes when you when you are um when you have a claim open against like stolen money, they will give it back to you while the investigation is happening. And then if it ends up not being in your favor, they then just take it back from you. But if it is, like then they just take the fee from the credit return.

SPEAKER_04 10:49

I don't remember. I've only had this happen once. It was in college, and I don't really remember.

SPEAKER_00 10:52

So I have had this happen like five years ago. It wasn't this large of an amount, but they like, we'll give it back to you while we investigate. But that part can't happen till the investigation's open. Um, so at this point on Wednesday morning, they both still said created, not open. So I was like, it wasn't even like I wasn't even expecting it because they were such large amounts that would they even do that. So I'm talking to this lovely woman who's like, okay, here's what we gotta do. She's like, you don't have to, it's absolutely not necessary, but I would contact that company and be like, hey, just so you know this is happening, can you look into who's using my card? And I was like, okay, happy to do that. She said, Second of all, I'm gonna put stop payments because she said, I don't know if you noticed, both of these say reoccurring.

SPEAKER_05 11:30

Oh no.

SPEAKER_00 11:31

So they're on my account as reoccurring charges. And she said, a lot of times when that happens, it's and she's like, I have dealt with this company specifically before with people. And because they're a company that fronts rent, they don't just accept a debit card on the account. They probably have a bank account as backup because they want to get their money regardless. Makes sense. So maybe they have your card and someone else's account. Like it could be that kind of a scam going on, but just in case they have your account, I'm gonna put stop payment on this with this caveat. So stop payment, I've done this before. Like you can stop a check, you can stop whatever, right? Companies like this, this company knows that banks that people do this as a scam. Like they know, she's like, they know that people will be like, stop payment on this.

SPEAKER_06 12:15

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 12:15

So they change their description slightly every month. And it and that will get through the system. She's like, because our the smart the system's smart and it stops it because we put the exact characters in. Yeah. So it sees it, flags it, does declines it. So these companies could do that. She's like, so that is why I recommend contacting them.

SPEAKER_04 12:33

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 12:34

So I'm now freaking out even more.

SPEAKER_04 12:36

It's crazy that she's like, I've dealt with this company before.

SPEAKER_00 12:39

Specifically, yeah. I was like, um, this is I'm freaking out because I'm like reoccurring.

SPEAKER_04 12:42

They should not accept, I don't know. I feel like this they this company also shouldn't want to deal with this on their back end, also.

SPEAKER_01 12:51

Right.

SPEAKER_04 12:52

Unless they're a scam company.

SPEAKER_01 12:54

Right.

SPEAKER_04 12:54

So, like, why would what would be the way for them to be able to make this not happen? Right. I don't know. Like you have to show, I don't know, show your ID. I don't know.

Bank Escalations, Stop Payments, And Recurring Charges

SPEAKER_00 13:05

I'm sure there's a credit check and a lot of stuff that goes into getting accepted because it's essentially a loan. Yeah. It's like a monthly loan that you pay back in a month. And and it was like the it I looked into it because I was like, interesting. And it is nice. Like the service, it's like you become a member and it's like$30 a month to have this service, which is like that's kind of great for people that like don't get their, especially in LA when your rent is$2,000 plus dollars a month.

SPEAKER_06 13:28

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 13:29

Anyway. Um so then I was like, but I'll also this new transaction, the third one, or the fourth one on the second day, it didn't say reoccurring, but it was another loan company. So it is someone going around with my card number, yeah, putting it as the repayment, making a payment back. It's whatever the scam is, it's well thought out.

SPEAKER_05 13:48

I don't understand, people.

SPEAKER_00 13:50

So I contact this company, who by the way doesn't have a phone number, red flag number one.

SPEAKER_05 13:53

Oh my god, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 13:54

Only chat with their bot. And if the bot decides that it's like an escalation, then you'll get an email. So that I had to go through that process. I get an email from a real person. Hey, like we take scams very seriously. Can you explain what's going on? So I say, I have two recurring transactions on my account 20 minutes apart for these amounts on these days, um, on two different debit cards. The one that the first time it happened, I canceled it. It happened again under a different card. And so she was like, um, she replies and says, I don't see your name. I don't see that you have an account with us here at Blank.

SPEAKER_04 14:28

And I was like, Well, yeah, I don't have an account with you.

SPEAKER_00 14:31

So I replied, I was like, Hey, I'm sorry, I'm not trying to be mean, but it is frustrating. Like, I clearly laid out that I don't have an account from you. Someone is has used my debit card to pay back their loan from you.

SPEAKER_04 14:42

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 14:43

So you're not gonna find an account by me.

SPEAKER_04 14:44

No, obviously.

SPEAKER_00 14:45

She replies, My apologies. Um, this is actually a bigger deal than I can help you with. So I've moved escalated this to an account manager.

SPEAKER_04 14:52

Also, can I talk to someone on the phone? Like, I don't want to email back and forth.

SPEAKER_00 14:56

True, I thought that. And then I then when I was telling this to Emma at work, she was like, but now you have all this in writing. I mean, that is true.

SPEAKER_06 15:03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 15:03

So then a manager emails me at 8 a.m. this morning. I haven't had a chance to reply to him yet. And he asks, like, he's like, we can get this sorted and figure out who this is. These are the, and then they need like very they like send me a screenshot of the transaction so we can see the um, there's like a number next to the transaction that's like their reference number. He's like, So I need using to see the reference number next to the last four digits of the debit card, and we can track this to whoever's account it is. So it's it's gonna be fine.

SPEAKER_04 15:28

And they're and want you to press charges on these people.

SPEAKER_00 15:31

No, they released three, they gave me three of the four transactions back while they're under investigation. So I'm still out like over a thousand dollars right now, but at least like this, I feel very confident that like I pay my rent through Zell to my landlord every month on the first and have proof of that in my Wells Fargo account. So if it comes to them being like, Well, this is a debit card transaction that seems legitimate, which the first person told me they could absolutely that could absolutely happen. Debit card transactions, just so you guys know, are harder to dispute. I didn't know that.

SPEAKER_04 16:00

Yeah, I mean, I guess.

SPEAKER_00 16:01

Because it's there's more security around a debit card than a credit card. So it's harder to dispute them.

SPEAKER_04 16:06

Yeah. So But like, isn't unless you are somewhere where you're putting your PIN number in, I feel like the PIN number is the Right, and this was not that situation. Like, okay, that's a legitimate thing that someone it's hard for someone to also get your PIN number and your card. Someone can get your card, run it as credit.

SPEAKER_00 16:25

True, and that is what had to have happened here. Yeah. Because they didn't, there's no way they had my pin.

SPEAKER_04 16:29

And that I feel like is very doable. Like people who steal, you know, have RFIDs, stealers or whatever, like that's very easy for them to do. I could tell I could understand if it was like, well, you this pin was also put in, it was ran as debit. So true, good point. How do we know you're not lying? But if that's not happening. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 16:50

They don't want to give me false hope, and I appreciate that. Because like$3,000 is not nothing, and that would really suck.

SPEAKER_04 16:55

Yeah. That's why I wish you could press charges. I know.

Contacting The Companies And Partial Refunds

SPEAKER_00 16:58

Obviously, I know it's like expensive to suit people, but um, so I get the 10 days, I'll find out their their official like ruling on it, and then I can contest if they come back and say like nah to you. But I think now that I'm dealing with I don't know what this fourth transaction though, that's a different company. That I don't know how that's gonna go. That's the one transaction they didn't give back to me. But it's the same type of thing, same type of thing, same dollar amount. Yeah. So that's been a nightmare. Um, but it is a little so I just got my new debit card in the mail today, which is actually fast because this all happened on Monday's.

SPEAKER_03 17:31

Yeah, usually it's like two weeks.

SPEAKER_00 17:32

But I got two of them. So now I have to figure out which one. But you know what they did? Because you know, mine was a personalized card, it was a piano.

SPEAKER_03 17:40

Oh, yeah. Oh my god, that one card. Nice.

SPEAKER_00 17:43

Yeah. Anyway, so that really has been my week. That and aside, and then other than that, um today was the first day of like the kickoff of the new strategy for gay and trying stuff. So we did um tune in to the Gay and Trying podcast coming soon.

SPEAKER_04 18:00

Oh, that's exciting.

SPEAKER_00 18:02

Also, this is my formal invitation that we want to shoot um a piece of content where you come in and teach us choreography.

SPEAKER_05 18:10

Love, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 18:10

So we're gonna just have you come in on a guest pass some week and then just like it's gonna be for socials, but then um everything we're doing on socials is getting pushed behind it.

SPEAKER_04 18:19

So love that.

SPEAKER_00 18:20

It'll be great.

SPEAKER_04 18:20

Well I'm really sorry. Yeah, it's a romper. Cute.

SPEAKER_00 18:25

Oh, that's what you just posted about. It looked like a yeah, it looked like two pieces. That's cute.

SPEAKER_04 18:30

Yeah, it has like a waist cinching. Nice. Um okay, sorry. Well, I'm very sorry that that happened to you. Sorry. We went into you know what though?

SPEAKER_00 18:38

I have been able to like I don't know, even a year ago, me, well, you know, I would have absolutely put a gun into my mouth.

SPEAKER_04 18:44

Yeah, literally, I'm trying to think of like I would just fall to the ground and sit there and like not know what to do.

SPEAKER_00 18:52

I must be in a good space mentally because I was truly like, money is energy, it comes and it goes, and I have done everything right in this situation. Yeah, it's gonna come back.

SPEAKER_04 18:59

I just want to say, like, as two people who follow rules and don't break the law, like I don't understand how there is a mindset that you can just be like, yeah, I'm gonna ruin someone's life today, and I don't care because I need it.

SPEAKER_05 19:15

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 19:15

And so therefore, like, screw that person.

SPEAKER_00 19:18

I'm ruining their whole that karma's gonna come around in such a bad way. I just don't know how people it's wild do that.

SPEAKER_04 19:25

It's not just like stealing a chapstick, like it is people's livelihood. I don't know, wild.

SPEAKER_00 19:31

Okay, so right before we started, you said that you were signing an affidavit and passing in today.

SPEAKER_04 19:37

Yeah, so this is the conclusion of the story. I mean, I hope so. The saga of my stolen check, which is my stolen$350. Yeah, well still doesn't compare.

SPEAKER_00 19:47

But um why are we getting wait, yeah, wait. I'm literally just connecting. We both are victims of fraud in the last month.

Mindset, Karma, And Coping

SPEAKER_04 19:54

Yeah, in a different way. But um, yeah, so to recap for anyone who doesn't remember or is just here, I did choreography. I was supposed to be paid in December. I never got it. When I reached out to the teacher, I was like, hey, I haven't gotten this. And then the school uh treasurer was like, this check was issued and it was um cashed on December 9th. And I was like, that's crazy because I never got it and I didn't cash it. So then this started this whole saga of trying to get the$350 to back to me, which they made me, they wanted me to go fill out a police report, which I went to the police station three separate times and was on the phone with them forever because no one could tell me what type of report to actually make.

SPEAKER_00 20:45

No one actually knew anything. They were just like trying to pass you off.

Alex’s Stolen Check Saga And Police Hurdles

SPEAKER_04 20:47

Yes, they just kept passing me around. And then one person was like, Well, you have to do this one online. And then I went and I did try to do it online, and then when I filled out what happened, the system was like, actually, you can't do this online. You have to go do it in person because it is fraud. So I did that. I submitted the I finally got it done. I finally got it from the uh police station, which the initial officer that wrote the report for me said he I would get an email of it, and I never did. So then I had to call again and be like, hey, I didn't get this, and a different person sent it to me. So then I gave it to the school district. Here it is. They were like, Okay, we'll let you know. Oh, we'll let you know if we hear anything. And I had to be like, Hey, I've been like really cool about this, but I want to be clear, like, I'm expecting to get paid. Like, yeah, whether you're paying me the money that you know the bank gives back to you because this was illegal, yeah, or whether you're finding$350 from somewhere for sure, some other budget. Yeah, I'm like expecting to get paid because I did the work, I did nothing wrong in the situation. Yeah, I wasn't.

SPEAKER_00 22:00

Like you misplaced this check or anything, it never made it to you. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 22:03

Yeah. So then they were like, a few days later, the treasurer was like, Okay, you can you can come. I'm gonna I'm issuing you a new check. I'm going to like leave it here and the office so you can come physically get it. And I was like, have no issue driving to Pasadena, although it is a terrible drive.

SPEAKER_05 22:23

Correct, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 22:24

Um, I was like, cool, I can do it. So I went getting there, like driving there was fine, but then finding this office was a nightmare because it's in this like elementary school that was it's kind of huge, and I think that they turned it into just like a bunch of offices. Okay, yeah. Nowhere did I know where this was. I had to like stand in the middle of this school at a desk until someone walked by because there was no one working the desk. There was it was a like the most abandoned place I've ever been. And I just had to stand there for like five minutes until someone walked by. And I was like, hey, I'm looking for this person in this office. They were like, okay, I don't actually know, but I think if you walk all the way down that hallway until you can't anymore, and then you turn right and you walk all the way down that hallway until you can't anymore, then I think it's on the left. And I was like, for sure.

SPEAKER_00 23:17

Great, love this.

SPEAKER_04 23:18

Which actually, those directions were great and right. Hell yeah. But I was for a second, I was like, what? Like, I'm just gonna be walking around this random place. I got there, I got the check, fine, I left. Then yesterday I had an email that was like, hey, we actually need you to come in and sign this affidavit for the from the school bank.

SPEAKER_00 23:39

The school said this to you?

SPEAKER_04 23:41

The it yeah, it what's it's uh not actually a school that issued it. It's like a school district. Understood.

SPEAKER_00 23:47

Okay, but they're the ones that need you to sign it, not the police.

SPEAKER_04 23:49

Correct. Got it. They had a thing that was like had to do it. It was basically all the information in one thing. They had my uh police report, they had my emails to them, they had emails from the teacher, just like this is all the information, we're submitting it probably I don't know where, maybe higher ups at the bank or something like that. And I was like, yes, but I had to drive all the way over there again, 40 minutes, 40 minutes there, 40 minutes back. Of course. So but hopefully that was it.

SPEAKER_00 24:25

Hopefully that's the end of it.

SPEAKER_04 24:26

Yeah, which did lead me to I didn't get to the end of Traders.

SPEAKER_00 24:32

Oh, you didn't?

SPEAKER_04 24:33

But I got a lot of it done.

SPEAKER_00 24:34

You can I spoil it? Yeah, well, at least like fill you in on what whatever the last thing was that you saw.

SPEAKER_06 24:39

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 24:40

Because I was like, this is kind of fun to record on Friday because we it was fresh for everyone, and nothing will have come out when we talk on when people listen to this on Monday.

SPEAKER_04 24:48

So we're gonna give you a spoiler alert right now. We're gonna give you a 10-second countdown. Nine. Eight nine. Six five, four, three, two, one.

SPEAKER_00 25:06

Spoilers. Okay, so what's the last thing that you can recall?

SPEAKER_04 25:12

I saw the conversation that Candace and Rob had.

SPEAKER_00 25:19

Okay.

The Traitors: Candace’s Downfall And Rob’s Play

SPEAKER_04 25:20

And then so I'm assuming they start going to the round table soon, right?

SPEAKER_00 25:25

Yeah, so this episode was more than half of it was round table.

SPEAKER_04 25:28

Okay, so they must go round table. Right away.

SPEAKER_00 25:30

And it was a long round table.

unknown 25:32

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 25:33

Or felt long. Maybe they're all long, but this one felt long.

SPEAKER_04 25:36

Yeah, because this one started, I don't know. It feels like it wouldn't because this episode started with them in the turret.

SPEAKER_00 25:42

Correct.

SPEAKER_04 25:43

Which, like, usually we get the turret at the end of the episode where they banish them.

SPEAKER_00 25:48

Yeah, this this one had no challenge or anything. It was like turret, a little bit of mingling, round table.

SPEAKER_04 25:54

Well, there was a challenge with the the p photo thing.

SPEAKER_00 25:58

That was this episode?

SPEAKER_04 26:00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 26:01

Oh, I forgot that I also watched it in two parts. So I just forgot. Yeah, you're right, you're right, you're right. But half of the episode was round table. Okay, so the round table was wild, but like immediately, you're okay with me saying like what happens?

SPEAKER_06 26:14

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 26:16

Immediately you're like, oh, Candace, you're an idiot. You're cooked. You're cooked.

SPEAKER_06 26:19

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 26:20

Like, she couldn't talk her way out of anything. And it was like, it's her bad for writing Rob's name down the night before.

SPEAKER_04 26:26

Yeah, why did she dumbest move ever because she could have literally done Tara Lipinski and no one would have cared?

SPEAKER_00 26:32

It was an ego thing.

SPEAKER_04 26:32

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 26:33

And unfortunately, it bit her in the ass.

SPEAKER_04 26:35

That's yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 26:37

That's the downfall. Candace is gone in the most like unsurprising way ever.

SPEAKER_04 26:42

But I didn't like her, but like she ruined it for herself. She did. She had she couldn't get past, yeah. The ego. Yeah. Ego is the right word for it because she couldn't get past Rob turning on a traitor, but like she also, I know we have all the information, so it's hard. For sure. But Rob is so ingratiated in the um faithful group.

SPEAKER_00 27:07

They are, there's not, no one is questioning him.

SPEAKER_04 27:09

So all she had to do was be like, okay, I don't care. I'm not mad at you. Bring me into this group.

SPEAKER_00 27:17

Correct. Yes. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 27:18

And I will do whatever you want.

SPEAKER_00 27:19

Yes.

SPEAKER_04 27:20

Instead of being like, oh yeah, you wanna you wanna play this game, then like I'm gonna, I'm coming for you. And that's just like people already are saying you're he did dupe her. I get that.

SPEAKER_00 27:33

But but his reasoning, I think, is justified. Like, even to Lisa, I was just like, dude, no, he's like, what am I supposed to do?

SPEAKER_04 27:39

Like, yeah, if all these people trust me, yeah, and your name is coming up. What what do you want me to do? If I ride for you, then all three of us are gone. You're gone.

SPEAKER_00 27:49

So I'm like very impressed with his gameplay, and I'm kind of obsessed with his sweater vests. I'm like, should I try vests again? But this time sweater vests?

SPEAKER_04 27:57

With no shirt underneath?

SPEAKER_00 27:58

Well, or with. I just like his sweater vests. Yeah. I like the no shirt look, the no underneath shirt look, but like we have tattoos too, which I think works because I think wearing no shirt underneath, like having the tattoos kind of creates a sleeve. Yeah. Yeah. Um so then, of course, there's a little murmur. Uh Ice skate man is on to Rob. Um, okay. We got a little peek at that right before Rob goes to the turret and is like you, he was like, you must pick another trader.

SPEAKER_04 28:30

So do you think he's gonna pick Johnny?

SPEAKER_00 28:32

Oh, they showed us who he picked. Who do you think it is?

SPEAKER_04 28:33

It's a bad.

SPEAKER_00 28:34

Who do you think it is? If you without knowing the information about Johnny, I will tell you it's not Johnny. Who do you think it is?

SPEAKER_04 28:42

Okay. To in my in my deduction, that's not how you use that. I don't know. Rob is a he's a boy's boy.

SPEAKER_00 28:53

But Colton is But Colton's gone.

SPEAKER_04 28:57

So I feel like the next person he was talking to a lot in this episode was Steven.

SPEAKER_00 29:03

Correct.

SPEAKER_04 29:04

Steven.

unknown 29:05

Steven.

SPEAKER_04 29:06

Um but I I think he also might want to pick someone super unassuming that's like super faithful.

SPEAKER_00 29:17

And in my mind, uh So he if I'm telling if I tell you he went that route, yeah, who would it be in that group?

SPEAKER_04 29:24

And it's not Johnny.

SPEAKER_00 29:25

It's not Johnny.

SPEAKER_04 29:28

Um some people are on to Steven, some people are on to Natalie. Natalie, some people are on to Kristen. So we're really down to Eric Tara.

SPEAKER_00 29:43

Johnny, but you know.

SPEAKER_04 29:44

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 29:47

Mark. Right. So I thought he was gonna pick Mark.

SPEAKER_04 29:53

Yeah, because Mark would be so excited.

SPEAKER_00 29:55

He would be so excited.

SPEAKER_04 29:56

Dorinda.

SPEAKER_00 29:56

Oh, Durinda.

SPEAKER_04 29:57

So now I'm in between Tara, Dorinda. I think he picked Tara.

SPEAKER_00 30:00

He picked Eric. And it's a kid. Listen, I well, I'm very annoyed by Eric, so I'm irritated, but and his reaction being picked was like as if he was on like a cartoon show.

SPEAKER_04 30:12

I know you have to know that for many years he worked on an after school kids' show.

SPEAKER_00 30:18

Oh, I didn't know that.

SPEAKER_04 30:19

Yeah. So one of the reason I know him before I knew his solo music is in my, you know, 2019-2020 of like D Loving K-pop BTS obsession. Yes, he uh was a one of two hosts on this after school show, kind of like RTRL, but like okay, but not as grown up, like a little bit more K pop got it, got it younger leaning. Okay, well that makes sense. BTS would go on this show often and they would play games and they would um talk about the music, they would like dance, they would do all these like fun things. Yeah. He for many years he hosted that show.

Recruiting A New Traitor And Predictions

SPEAKER_00 30:59

Understood. That is his energy, so that makes sense. Very uh what?

SPEAKER_04 31:04

That's crazy. And he's a K-pop trainee, and he just is like, I think that sorry if I'm wrong, but I think that a lot of K-pop or not call sorry, K-pop, Korean culture is being really animated in your face, also.

SPEAKER_00 31:22

I don't know. The the girls of what's the group I love? Rose, Black Pink. They don't I feel like that's not how they act.

SPEAKER_04 31:31

I feel like there's two types. It is like sexy, yeah, yeah, yeah. Sexy, serious, whatever, and then there's like the cute, like like face, like scrunching your face, squeezing your face, that type of thing.

SPEAKER_00 31:43

I'm being hard on him because I just got such an ick from that round table when he was like, I had perfect page. I heard something.

SPEAKER_04 31:51

Wait, who did he call out on that one?

SPEAKER_00 31:53

Um, the person they voted out. Who what was her name?

SPEAKER_04 31:56

Oh, it wasn't Lisa, okay.

SPEAKER_00 31:57

No, he he was like, and it sounded like you. And it was just so like, oh man. And I think because we knew it was wrong, that also was like, yeah. Anyway, Eric he is asked to be a traitor. What we don't know is if Eric accepts. Oh yeah, because I Oh, Allison, I'm forgetting the another reason why this is like adding to the ick is because he turned the paper around. He's like, I know this handwriting anywhere. Dorinda. And he's so sure.

SPEAKER_04 32:29

That's so funny. I wonder if they actually have Rob write it for real or if like a producer.

SPEAKER_00 32:36

I know it did look very specific, like bad chicken scratch.

SPEAKER_04 32:40

Oh, maybe he just tried to.

SPEAKER_00 32:42

I know his handwriting Dorinda. Honestly, Dorinda could have been a good one, but it would all depend on how she I just can't wait for this like after show reunion when they're like, so Eric, you're very sure of yourself every time you were wrong.

SPEAKER_04 32:56

You were really wrong.

SPEAKER_00 32:57

And anyway, so I was like, ugh, and then I was like, hold on, that was actually smart because no one suspects him, and I think he will get himself voted out.

SPEAKER_04 33:06

Because he's just gonna freak out. Either he accepts and he starts acting super weird, or he's like, I got recruited and I said no. And so they're either gonna be like, Well, either you're lying and you uh said yes and you're just telling us you said no, or they're going to be like, He'll be sus to them no matter what. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 33:25

So I think even I think he's gonna accept. You because you have to accept.

SPEAKER_04 33:29

You have to accept. And because there's no way you can You can't win the game after that because the trader is gonna come for you. Yeah, and like, yeah, what we just said, if you say I didn't accept, I promise, like people are just gonna be like, well, I think we should vote you out anyway, just in case. Yeah. So you have to accept and you have to shut up and you have to just switch your mindset. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 33:49

And this happened last season, right? The girl, there was a girl recruited towards the end. I remember her reaction was very that, like, fuck, why? Why did you pick me?

SPEAKER_04 33:57

It was Britney.

SPEAKER_00 33:58

Britney, yes, it was, yes.

SPEAKER_04 34:00

Because Britney knew that she was a traitor, that Danielle was a traitor. So she was hoping she just gets to the end, she can vote her out.

SPEAKER_00 34:09

Oh, that's right, and then she's gonna go.

SPEAKER_04 34:10

And then it's fine. And then she had to be like, well, now I have to change my whole strategy. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 34:16

But we'll see on Thursday how this plays out. Interesting. But I do think like it ended up being, it was a smart move on Rob's. He's a good game player.

SPEAKER_04 34:24

He is, and I am impressed with him. I will say, like, it's pretty annoying. I feel like he's good with he do you think he could have done Moira? Or do you think she would have freaked out? Because I don't think anyone's freaked out, no. I don't think anyone suspects her. I forgot about her.

SPEAKER_00 34:40

And yeah, that's she flies under the radar. What are you tinking?

SPEAKER_04 34:44

Yeah, but I do what was I gonna say? I am impressed by him, but I do hate that he's like such a like he was so such a bro, like so loyal to Colton. So I feel like he's now gonna be that way.

SPEAKER_00 35:00

But he did agree to vote out Colton because I think ultimately he knew that that would put a light on her, also.

SPEAKER_04 35:06

Like he said that, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 35:07

Yeah, it's just like he's like, fine, if that's what you really want, and inside he must be like, I'm fine. This makes you look terrible.

SPEAKER_06 35:13

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 35:14

So we'll see how this plays out. Um and I'm impressed with his gameplay.

SPEAKER_04 35:22

Never forget he cried under the swimming pool, though.

SPEAKER_00 35:25

I don't know any of that.

Titanic II Plans And Big Feelings

SPEAKER_04 35:27

Well, speaking of crying, yeah, uh yeah. Yeah, there's two things. One, Titanic 2. Not the movie.

SPEAKER_00 35:37

Right, right, right.

SPEAKER_04 35:38

I was like, Did I send this to you?

SPEAKER_00 35:39

You did, yeah, but I had of course already seen it.

SPEAKER_04 35:41

Freaking wish I hadn't. Oh, you had already seen it. Yeah. Everyone, Titanic 2, the ship, is set to set sail in June of 2027. And what I want to say is as much as we want to do this, I think that we can't. One, because we can't afford it, afford it, but two, I think it's curse and something bad's gonna happen.

SPEAKER_00 35:58

Well, the elite will take it out as a way to like Yeah. I don't wish to cause confusion.

SPEAKER_04 36:04

Right.

SPEAKER_00 36:04

And distraction.

SPEAKER_04 36:05

I don't wish for anything to happen, but I'm just like now there will be enough lifeboats.

SPEAKER_00 36:10

That is a big difference here. True. And there will be modern amenities, I assume.

SPEAKER_04 36:15

And I'm like sad because I would love to just walk on it.

SPEAKER_00 36:18

Oh my god, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 36:19

Let me tell you about it. For everyone who doesn't know, a modern 833-foot replica of the original liner is being developed by Australian billionaire Clive Palmer, who runs Blue Star Lines. Oh, okay, with a proposed maiden voyage from white to blue. White to blue. Voyage from Southampton to New York, which is the same route that it went on uh in June 2027. The$500 million vessel will feature a 1912 style interior, including the grand staircase and Turkish baths, but with modern safety navigation and diesel electric propulsion.

SPEAKER_00 36:56

No coal shoveling men downstairs. I mean, like it would be a dream.

SPEAKER_06 37:02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 37:03

But I would be terrified. No, there's when they're like, we're approaching the spot, I'd be like, I'd just be waiting by a lifeboat with my life jacket.

SPEAKER_04 37:11

Literally. Um, like I said, 830 f833 feet long, 106 feet wide, accommodating approximately two and 2,345 passengers and 835 cabin cabins.

SPEAKER_00 37:26

Okay. Does it say like what restaurants or anything? Like if there's just one dining hall or we'll see.

unknown 37:34

Okay.

SPEAKER_04 37:34

Um replicating the original offer period style dining with third class, second class, and first class options. Imagine in the year of 2025, you're like, would love to be in third class.

SPEAKER_00 37:46

Yeah, actually, that's that's in my budget.

SPEAKER_04 37:48

Well, yeah. I obviously, not obviously, I've been on a cruise and I was like I've obviously been on a cruise. I was in the middle of the boat.

SPEAKER_00 37:56

Yeah. And oh, you mean like no windows?

SPEAKER_04 38:00

No windows. And like it obviously it didn't feel like third class, but it was like, oh, I have, you know, the baseline room here.

SPEAKER_00 38:13

But it wasn't, it's not called that. It's just a it's just a middle room. Yeah, it's just like uh they're calling this third, second, and first.

SPEAKER_04 38:19

Yeah, but that's insane. That is insane. You can't do that. Early estimates suggest, for instance, that first class suites could exceed$50,000.

SPEAKER_00 38:29

Like the original Titanic.

Winter Olympics Hype And Stories

SPEAKER_04 38:31

Which so maybe we can uh afford third class.

SPEAKER_00 38:36

Maybe. Oh my god, I just can't wait until we see images of what it looks like.

SPEAKER_04 38:41

The project, often referred to as the ship of peace, has faced multiple delays since its announcement with construction originally planned to start in early 2025.

SPEAKER_00 38:50

The ship of peace, the ship of do you guys remember what the ship was called?

SPEAKER_04 38:55

The ship of dreams. Duh. How could we not know that? Anyway, that's crazy.

SPEAKER_00 39:00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 39:02

The second thing is that the Olympics are back in LA? No, no, the Winter Olympics. Oh, opening ceremony is tonight.

SPEAKER_00 39:11

And you're crying? Is this why you're crying?

SPEAKER_04 39:13

I whenever someone wins gold if they're American, I cry.

SPEAKER_00 39:18

Oh, I get it. Because their reaction is so emotional. It's like they've worked their lives.

SPEAKER_04 39:22

Yeah, they've worked their entire lives. They're crying. How am I not gonna cry?

SPEAKER_00 39:26

I am interested in tuning in for the figure skating because of the dude.

SPEAKER_04 39:30

Johnny Weir.

SPEAKER_00 39:31

No.

SPEAKER_04 39:32

Oh, oh, you mean the actual skater?

SPEAKER_00 39:34

The actual skater whose parents died in that plane crash and he made it to the Olympics.

SPEAKER_04 39:37

Yeah, they have had um commercials that like show pictures of people who died. Because it was like the curling team or something, right? It was a whole team of people, and it was like a lot of family members. It was a was it a private plane?

SPEAKER_00 39:52

Must have been, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 39:52

Or maybe they chartered a commercial, but it was just for that. So it was team members and family members from a bunch mostly.

SPEAKER_00 40:02

A bunch of winter sports.

SPEAKER_04 40:03

Yeah, winter sports. I don't know. But I've seen commercials with like showing pictures of some of those like in honor of them. So yes, I would like to watch that. Um I did see when I looked up because since they're so far ahead, it's in Italy.

SPEAKER_00 40:19

There's already okay.

SPEAKER_04 40:21

There's already thing like people have won things already. And I saw that we won something.

SPEAKER_00 40:27

Is it on Peacock? Must be because it's on the C, right?

SPEAKER_04 40:32

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 40:32

Okay.

SPEAKER_04 40:33

Something about Lindsay Vaughn, like she thought she was done in the eight years ago and she like just like broke her leg or something, and she's still competing.

SPEAKER_02 40:43

Who?

SPEAKER_04 40:44

Lindsay Vaughn. Very famous. Uh skier.

SPEAKER_00 40:52

Oh.

SPEAKER_04 40:53

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 40:54

I don't know anything about that.

SPEAKER_04 40:56

Okay, well, you gotta watch. I don't think he does it anymore.

SPEAKER_00 40:59

But I know that anymore.

SPEAKER_04 41:00

But maybe he does, I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 41:01

He's a skier, skier.

SPEAKER_04 41:02

Nope. Sean White?

SPEAKER_00 41:05

Skateboarder? Was I wrong? Snowboard. Oh, snowboard, snowboard. Oh, yes, totally. Snowboard. My bad.

SPEAKER_04 41:13

Um, but yeah, the opening ceremony, it's already happened, but we will be able to watch it tonight.

Grammys Recap: Performances And Pop Takes

SPEAKER_00 41:19

Got it. So tune in, Peacock.

SPEAKER_04 41:23

What else? Um, we haven't talked about the Grammys. Do you have anything you want to say? I have a few things.

SPEAKER_00 41:28

I did watch the Grammys the next day. So I could just not like digest it in my own time. What are you talking about? Um my takeaways. Uh there was I don't know, nothing was really memorable to me. I did like the best new artist compilation concert was cute.

SPEAKER_05 41:50

That's what I want to talk about.

SPEAKER_00 41:51

I didn't realize the Alice Allison Ray. Addison Ray. Is that her name?

SPEAKER_04 41:57

Addison.

SPEAKER_00 41:58

What am I saying?

SPEAKER_04 41:59

I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 41:59

Addison Ray.

SPEAKER_04 42:00

You said Allison first. I don't know what you said second.

SPEAKER_00 42:03

Is it Addison Ray? Yeah. Why does it sound weird to me now?

SPEAKER_04 42:06

I don't know, but it's Ray.

unknown 42:07

No.

SPEAKER_00 42:08

It's you. Addison Ray.

SPEAKER_06 42:09

Yes.

SPEAKER_00 42:10

Tate McRae and Addison Ray.

SPEAKER_06 42:12

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 42:12

Addison Ray didn't realize she was like that talented. So like that was, I was like, that's a you didn't think she was good at dancing? I did not like her performance. Here's what I mean though. I thought she was trying to pass as a singer, and I didn't realize she had dancing ability because I'm not a fan of her voice. I've never like I get that she can sing, but it feels like Verilana Del Rey, which is just not my vibe.

SPEAKER_04 42:37

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 42:38

So I watched that. I was like, dances?

SPEAKER_04 42:41

She was dancing on TikTok before she became she wanted to do.

SPEAKER_00 42:44

I didn't know that.

SPEAKER_04 42:45

This is why I her whole thing was her and Charlie, her and Charlie D'Amelio were the dancers of TikTok.

SPEAKER_00 42:50

This is blowing my mind.

SPEAKER_04 42:51

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 42:52

Because I, when you said when we were talking about the Britney movie getting made, and you were like Addison Ray, I was like, you must be like, how does I think that's more important than if you look like Britney. You need to be able to dance.

SPEAKER_04 43:05

She can dance. I'm not taking it away from her. She can dance. I was severely underwhelmed by her performance.

SPEAKER_00 43:11

I do think it's funny they they made they were like, and Addison, why don't you perform in the loading docks? Everyone else got like an area. Yeah. Even Katseye got to go on the stage. Yeah. Katz Eye crushed it. They're very good.

SPEAKER_04 43:23

I wasn't living for it. It's like maybe we're maybe if Tate McCrae didn't exist, then Because she is a better dancer and singer and performer. She overall across the board's better. I think that Addison, there's just something missing in terms this is a bad comparison. But she's closer to Brittany now.

SPEAKER_00 43:47

No, and I know what you mean.

SPEAKER_04 43:48

But not in like the way that Britney's like dancing on our Instagram, but in like there's a little bit of vacancy or something missing than Britney and her. Crime, which is what Tate is giving.

SPEAKER_00 44:02

Is closer to, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 44:04

Right.

SPEAKER_00 44:05

I feel you on that.

SPEAKER_04 44:06

They're just, I just wasn't, I was I was underwhelmed. And I like her, sweet girl. Do your thing.

SPEAKER_01 44:13

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 44:15

Cat's eye. They they're performing, they have it. Like when it went to Cat's Eye and I was like watching them perform, the song sucks. Correct. All their songs are not good.

SPEAKER_00 44:28

I don't know who And like the singing was weird, strange. Because it's not really a singy song, I guess.

SPEAKER_04 44:33

Correct. And they watch Pop Star Academy.

SPEAKER_01 44:37

Got it.

SPEAKER_00 44:37

Okay.

SPEAKER_04 44:38

Because you know I'm writing for them because I watched it. And I liked them before. I don't know what it is. I don't know how they need to just overhaul whoever is giving them their music wherever they're finding their music, whatever they're writing their music. It's a no. Like they have to regroup on that.

SPEAKER_00 44:55

I mean, there's they have such an opportunity to be an insane girl group, but you're right. The music is limiting them.

SPEAKER_04 45:01

But they have the the performing, they have they're performing through every finger, every like they just know how to perform. And so I don't care about the song, whatever. It is distracting. I already I know the song, so it's like whatever. But if you were just seeing them, I was like, some other people I follow was like, what's happening here? And it's like, yeah, this song is super weird.

SPEAKER_01 45:27

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 45:28

But if you go from Addison to them, it's like, well, they are like performing better.

SPEAKER_00 45:35

They are. And before we move on from Cat's Eye, it's like when I I find myself being like, imagine if Kat's Eye had a song like It's Okay, I'm Okay.

SPEAKER_04 45:43

Amazing.

SPEAKER_00 45:44

It would blow people out.

SPEAKER_04 45:45

Because they look so hot. They're all like incredible dancers, they're just like they have the star quality.

SPEAKER_00 45:52

So, like, why are Ryan Tetter needs to go write for them? Because he writes all of Tate's stuff.

SPEAKER_04 45:56

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 45:56

And it's like, if you gave a girl group a Tate song, it would be insane.

SPEAKER_04 46:01

But I don't understand because they're under Hype, which is BTS, which is in hyphen, which is TXT, like it's all these things. And it's like, why are they being given songs? Their other song that's out right now is something about like emojis, uh TikTok emojis, and it's like, eat eat the cucumber. Like it's an why are we giving them these songs? Like you have artists who you're giving pretty quality songs to. Right. So I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 46:29

Did you see the um video comparing last year's best new artist to this year's? It was it was like Chapel's performance, and then they put her next to um maybe it was Addison, but it was just showing like last year's nominees were a little more high caliber than this year's nominees. But I did I I did think Olivia would win, and she sure did.

SPEAKER_04 46:50

You did say that. I felt bad for Alex. I don't know. Someone said this like in-ears have one job, and how are they always not working? Someone's always taking out their in-ear.

SPEAKER_00 47:01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 47:01

What what? Why can't they just work?

SPEAKER_00 47:04

I don't know. You're right though. It happens all the time. It is a strange thing. I think in-ears, you know, you've had them. It is a strange thing.

SPEAKER_04 47:10

Yeah, we saw we use them for one month and stopped.

SPEAKER_00 47:13

It's a bizarre feeling as a singer, at least, to like like I don't love them, but I get for situations with big stages, it's necessary for bounce, sound bounce. Um, but you're right, like they fail so often. You see like artists taking them out.

SPEAKER_04 47:27

Yeah. Did you see his TikTok he made? Um, Alex Warren, if you guys don't know, he he honestly started out like a YouTuber, right? I believe. Yeah. Um, he played, he had a made a TikTok where he was like, This is what it sounded like in my in-ears, and it was just layers of echoing of the song. And so I felt really bad. He did like he corrected really corrected it, it was fine. Um, I liked, I liked everyone's performance. I really like Leon Thomas. He's really good. Olivia's really good. So I just like wasn't living for the first two people.

SPEAKER_00 48:04

Yeah, I do think Olivia, like what I love about her is like yes, like her look is perfect. Whoever I know she's been doing it a long time, but like whoever like put her together like that, like it works. It's like, yeah, this she's gonna have longevity.

SPEAKER_04 48:18

You also have to have that because if you think about the people who are superstars, like they picked their look, they picked their color, yeah, because you had they have to have a color. Sabrina is what baby blue or something, but her blonde hair, like it's always looking the same.

SPEAKER_00 48:34

And it took Sabrina a minute. Her first two albums, like not memorable at all.

SPEAKER_04 48:38

Yeah. Olivia, the other Olivia.

SPEAKER_00 48:42

Rodrigo.

SPEAKER_04 48:43

Rodrigo.

SPEAKER_00 48:44

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 48:44

Dark hair, punk, purple.

SPEAKER_00 48:46

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 48:47

Then you have who else?

SPEAKER_00 48:50

Taylor, who I would just put in like a pastel category. She's like, yeah, she kind of I think like there are some people that surpassed.

Glambot Drama And Industry Etiquette

SPEAKER_04 48:58

Yeah, she never really had to fall into that. Tate, I don't know what her like color is. I don't feel like she has one. Maybe it's like textured me.

SPEAKER_00 49:10

Yeah, it's like red, black, just kind of sexy, dark.

SPEAKER_04 49:13

Who might like Beyonce, silver? Who else has a color? I don't know, but like you have to find that. And Olivia, I feel like is very classy, very put together. She's like a Barbie doll.

SPEAKER_00 49:27

Yeah, she's like uh like a softer version of Ray, is kind of how I see her. And yeah, another UK game.

SPEAKER_04 49:32

Charlie, lime green, dark hair, blah, blah, blah. I'm here for it. Speaking of music, I know you're gonna hate this, uh, but I'm having an Edgeeran Renaissance.

SPEAKER_00 49:44

Well, thank you guys for listening. This has been great.

SPEAKER_04 49:47

You I don't understand. He makes such good music. I was listening to Shape of You again. I was like, this song is so good, it's just has everything you need. I didn't I didn't study music in school. I don't know anything about the courts.

SPEAKER_00 50:06

Hey, I will say mathematically speaking.

SPEAKER_04 50:08

It's like an earworm.

SPEAKER_00 50:10

Yeah, that is true.

SPEAKER_04 50:11

Why do you hate him again?

SPEAKER_00 50:12

I do not hate. I want to be clear. He just I just I don't understand the appeal. And I've heard too many stories of how he is as a person, and it's hard to like not.

SPEAKER_03 50:21

Oh, really?

SPEAKER_00 50:22

Yeah, it's hard to know.

SPEAKER_03 50:23

What are what stories have you heard?

SPEAKER_00 50:24

Well, I'll give you one.

SPEAKER_03 50:25

Please.

SPEAKER_00 50:25

So a security guard of his or a driver of his was uh taking him somewhere, and he was like, Hey man, I don't mean to interrupt, but I just I just want you to know, like, my wife loves your music, thinks you're really great. And he didn't look up from his phone and he was like, Hey, sorry, man, I was I was just trying to give you a compliment. And he was like, Why are you still talking to me? And then went back to his phone. Oh, okay. And it's like, those are the stories I yeah, I don't like that.

SPEAKER_04 50:49

Because I was about to just say sorry. I was about to just say he seems like such a like regular person that I feel like that appeals to me because it's like everyone is so fake.

SPEAKER_00 51:01

That's his thing though, right? Like he's like then I fell for it.

SPEAKER_04 51:08

Oh, he like Nepo?

SPEAKER_00 51:09

Well, he's not a Nepo, they're just really wealthy. They funded everything he did, but he like played this act like just going to bars playing.

SPEAKER_05 51:15

Yeah, it's like Well, I fell for it.

SPEAKER_00 51:17

You are because you don't have to work, and so you are able to just do music all day.

SPEAKER_04 51:22

Okay, well, I don't love that, but I just there's I feel like um yeah, mathematically or like however song composition wise, it just like is so um satisfying. I feel like there's so many songs that are like satisfying to listen to. Anyway.

SPEAKER_01 51:42

I'll give them that.

SPEAKER_04 51:44

Um okay, we have a few directions we can go in before we wrap it up.

SPEAKER_00 51:48

Okay.

SPEAKER_04 51:49

So here's some topics I have. If you would like to We're spinning the wheel. We can talk about Glambot drama. Sorry. Oh funny. Savannah Guthrie's mom.

SPEAKER_00 52:02

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_04 52:04

Or my first Pilates class.

SPEAKER_00 52:07

Well, why don't we Glambot and your first Pilates class?

SPEAKER_04 52:12

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 52:13

The Glambot drama, if you don't know Yeah, Tom. Which is so funny because he was just at Buzzfeed like a couple weeks before all of it. Or like, yeah, a couple weeks before all of this. So I got to meet him. Nice guy. But someone reaches out, you know, you guys know the Glamba guy. His name is Cole something. He is the he's gorgeous, long, curly black hair, and he is the guy that runs this Glambot. And he basically, like, someone reached out wanting to rent the Glambot for a private event in 2019. In 2019, and they wanted to know the pricing. And basically they shared screenshots of these of the email correspondence between them and Cole. And Cole was just to sum it up, he was pretty nasty. He made it sound like no one could afford it. He gave a price range that he thought would be way too much for this person. The person reacted, like, okay, fine, if that's what it is, like that's why I'm asking.

SPEAKER_04 53:07

Clearly, they were coming into it knowing it was going to be so expensive. So expensive, and they had the money to be able to do that. So they were like, Okay.

SPEAKER_00 53:14

And like my take on reading it was like he was acting almost offended that someone would think they could even afford it. Yeah. It was like Okay, it's like Beyonce reached out and wanted, would you uh you know what I mean? So it's like just because you don't know this person doesn't mean they're gonna be.

SPEAKER_04 53:26

And you could see the because it was Gmail or something, you could see a thumbnail of the person's picture and they were a person of color, and so then it came off as yeah, profiling.

SPEAKER_00 53:36

So um, yeah, just like a nasty interaction. And then at the Grammys, he was not there operating the Glamba.

First Reformer Pilates Class

SPEAKER_04 53:44

He wasn't. This article I'm reading says that he got fired. I don't know, that's alleged. Don't know if it's true or not, but it says Glamblot. I cannot speak today. Glam bot producer Cole Walliser has been fired among major controversy, including negative interactions with stars like Jennifer Lopez. My question is, is this a hit piece on J Lo? Because this all started with J Lo looking bad for her. He posted, he always posts the BTS of it happening. Yeah, the BTS of uh the stars will come up. He'll have a brief interaction. They'll be like, Okay, um, I have he'll be like, oh, like your dress is flowy, you can like toss your dress, and he'll be like, they'll be like, okay, where do I stand? And he'll be like, okay, stand here. The camera's gonna come from this from over here, it's gonna end right here. You know, do something small, but yeah, whatever. And this is how it'll read. We can totally do it again if you don't like it. Like, he always comes off very nice, blah, blah, blah.

SPEAKER_00 54:42

And quit. He's very fast.

SPEAKER_04 54:43

He shared the BTS of JLo coming to him. She does not speak to him, she barely looks at him. He's like, Okay, this is where you're gonna stand. She just stands there and he's like, All right, the camera here. He does his whole spiel, and she basically doesn't say anything. She just kind of like nods.

SPEAKER_00 54:57

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 54:57

And then he's like, Okay, let's do it. She does it, and then she kind of just like leaves.

SPEAKER_00 55:01

Walks away. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 55:02

And so he posted that.

SPEAKER_00 55:04

No, everyone knows James.

SPEAKER_04 55:06

That was the whole thing. It was like he posted it, and then everyone was like, Well, yeah, J Lo's awful. And then it snowballed from there, basically. And so then the question is, is it J Lo's people that then planted this story?

SPEAKER_00 55:22

Damn.

SPEAKER_04 55:23

Probably not. They don't, but who knows? Because she's not beating these allegations because someone else in like two weeks is gonna have come out with a bad interaction with her. So it's like, what can you do?

SPEAKER_00 55:32

Endless.

SPEAKER_04 55:33

So he wasn't at the Grammys. Now this article says he was.

SPEAKER_00 55:38

Well, and also want to throw in there that like the creator of this camera, like, I didn't know this until I found this part out. I thought Cole was the creator of the camera. So did everyone did.

SPEAKER_06 55:46

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 55:47

The creator of this camera comes out and he's like, Yeah, like the thing is actually under$100,000. Like, actually, it's around$50K to manufacture. He's like, So it's not worth it. So much cheaper. It is not worth what he was saying it is.

SPEAKER_04 55:59

Oh. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Well, he has issued apologies, I believe, or he issued one video after the J-Lo thing where he was like. Oh, that's right. He was offending her. He was like, Yeah, like it's totally fine. Blah blah blah. Then he, I'm pretty sure he made an apology after he didn't deny that.

SPEAKER_00 56:21

That interaction over email.

SPEAKER_03 56:23

Yeah, I need to see.

SPEAKER_00 56:24

I guess not. We would have I would have seen it.

SPEAKER_03 56:28

Let me see.

SPEAKER_04 56:36

Okay, let's I'm gonna read you what I can see.

SPEAKER_01 56:40

Okay.

SPEAKER_04 56:42

He said, I want to talk about some emails that I sent years ago that resurfaced recently. The tone in these emails was dismissive and curt, and that is not okay. The drama started when Yinka something had reportedly contacted Cole in 2019 to request to hire. She's like a Nubian princess. She can afford it. Look at that picture. Oh wow, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 57:04

Stunning.

SPEAKER_04 57:05

She can buy 20. Yeah, she can buy them. She probably did. She probably was like, okay, screw you. I'm gonna buy my own. Anyway. Sorry, I got I got distracted by her beauty. Um okay, we know this. He claimed that he acted that way due to being overwhelmed. I didn't have a team around me. I was just myself. I was very overwhelmed. But that's not an excuse. I'm half Chinese and growing up, issues of my identity, race, um, and belonging deeply affected me. And I would never intend to inflict that on to anybody else, but I do understand that reading those emails, people could be upset and assume bias.

SPEAKER_01 57:54

Sure.

SPEAKER_04 57:55

He apologized to anyone that felt he had mistreated them on the red carpet, and also he wanted to acknowledge people's concerns that they were mistreated or felt dismissed. That's repeating. Anyway, so yeah, didn't deny it.

SPEAKER_00 58:12

Damn.

SPEAKER_04 58:13

So that's drama.

SPEAKER_00 58:15

We'll see, we'll keep you updated. We'll see if he actually was.

SPEAKER_04 58:17

Well, like anyone can do, sorry. Anyone can do what he was doing.

SPEAKER_00 58:21

Not that I know I thought that he created it. So it was like now I was like, okay, he wondered his baby.

SPEAKER_04 58:26

I wonder if the creator was there. Or no, it was a woman. They hired a woman. Yeah. So, like, all right. Sorry.

unknown 58:34

Damn.

SPEAKER_04 58:34

Anyway, um, I went to my first Pilates class a couple weeks ago. Yeah. So anyone, I fulfill anyone that was worried. I Victoria, I fulfilled the promise. I went to it. It was pretty good. It was a beginner's class, which I thought they were just gonna literally show me how to use the reformer. No, it was an actual class, and it was really hard.

SPEAKER_00 58:55

Was it reformer? You said reformer Pilates. Damn.

SPEAKER_04 58:58

It was pretty hard. I was sore the next couple days, but I actually had a good time. Do you think you're gonna go back? Yeah, it's just expensive.

SPEAKER_00 59:06

Is it class pass or were you doing it on class?

SPEAKER_04 59:08

I did it on class pass, and it was only like eight credits because I have the lowest, lowest form of class pass, meaning I get like eight credits a month. I pay like$15 or$19, something like that. Like very small. And I kind of just use it as a couple times a month. I'm like, okay, I don't feel like running, I don't feel like going to CrossFit, but I want to do something, and that's when I'll usually go to a yoga class or now Pilates, because those classes are normally$30 a class. So it's a cheaper way of me doing something like that.

SPEAKER_01 59:36

Oh, true.

SPEAKER_04 59:37

This place was$50 freaking dollars a class. That's insane. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 59:43

For the record, you can join my gym for$50 a month and take reforms.

SPEAKER_04 59:47

Did we want to talk about this?

SPEAKER_00 59:48

Does sound familiar.

SPEAKER_04 59:50

It does sound familiar. Anyway.

SPEAKER_00 59:52

With Angela, yes, we did. And she was like, I was told it was$80. Yes.

SPEAKER_04 59:55

Okay, okay, okay. Yeah. Anyway, that's that. Is it time for?

SPEAKER_00 1:00:00

A-list of the week.

SPEAKER_04 1:00:02

Week. Well, I was coming into this wanting to encourage everyone to have an Ed Sharon's Renaissance, but you kind of changed my mind.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:12

No, no, no. If that's your A-list of the week, do it.

SPEAKER_04 1:00:15

Yeah. I don't know. I just was like, wow, there's Bobs.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:19

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:00:21

So maybe take the artist out of the art. He's not like he's like. It's not a cancelable event. No offense to be like a rude celebrity.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:34

Disney is to me is in the same category as J Lo. Like it's just like Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:00:39

Anyway, but that was what I was coming in.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:42

Um, my list of the week is Disneyland because I realize I've never actually said that Disneyland is my list of the week. Oh last week we recorded before we went, and we had an amazing time, you guys.

SPEAKER_06 1:00:55

We did.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:56

Boyfriend and Angela now have passes, so the four of us went and we had a really lovely time. We left this the valley at like three, we got back at like ten. We wrote a good bit of stuff in the time we were there and had a really great time. And I'm happy to report that it really opened boyfriend's eyes. He was like, I get it now. Like, I see what you guys are talking about.

Birthdays, Laughs, And Sign‑Off

SPEAKER_04 1:01:15

To chill, yeah. Yes. He's like Because he thought he was like very apprehensive. And thought if you aren't going getting up ungodly early, staying until midnight, like you're not gonna majority of people do because it's their vacation.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:30

So they're there sun up to sundown.

SPEAKER_04 1:01:32

And if you're paying$200, like get your money's worth.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:36

Yeah, which like we are doing that, but but it's spread out over a year and we go a few times to make it worth it. But truly, like to he was like he was like, wow, yeah, that opened my own.

SPEAKER_04 1:01:48

Yeah, not having a like agenda to stick to, and it's like we could we did get um Lightning Lane, which we don't you don't have to in this scenario because but I think it's because we hadn't been in a long time and whatever it was It was worth it for the time we were there, yeah, but you can just go, you can hop on a single rider, yeah, you can have your a couple drinks, you can have a nice like dinner dessert or dinner and just like have the vibes and and also like and not be all hot and sweaty and also then you're not hung up on things like we had one lightning lane at the end of the night for Bob Slip for Matterhorn, yeah, and but we realized if we went and did that, that when we would get off would be around the time that the parade was ending, fireworks were ending.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:36

So the crowd of people to get out of the park would be a nightmare. Yeah, but because we we can be like, oh, we can come back in literally next week if we wanted, yeah. It was like not a big deal, and that he loved that. He was like, Oh my god, wow, it's yeah, yeah. That's not you guys weren't stressed about that at all. I was like, no, that's the beauty of the past.

SPEAKER_06 1:02:52

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:53

So Disneyland, everyone should come this year. If any of our listeners come to Disneyland this year, let us know because if it's on a day that our passes work, maybe we can come meet up.

SPEAKER_04 1:03:02

Oh my gosh, we should do a meetup.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:04

I mean, it'll be fun.

SPEAKER_04 1:03:05

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:06

If anyone wants to meet up at Disneyland, drop a comment.

SPEAKER_04 1:03:10

Yes. Okay, today's birthdays are what is today? Today is the 8th, 9th, 10th, 9th.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:19

My birthday is Wednesday.

SPEAKER_04 1:03:21

So it's the 9th.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:22

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:03:22

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:23

That was easy to figure out.

SPEAKER_04 1:03:24

Michael B. Jordan is 39. Hi. Bella Porch. Haven't heard from her.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:29

Never heard that in her in a while.

SPEAKER_04 1:03:30

She's 29. What? Yes.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:32

Never heard it.

SPEAKER_04 1:03:32

Bella Porch is the girl on from TikTok, like from the early days.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:37

Oh, was the number one TikTok?

SPEAKER_04 1:03:39

Yeah. And she sings a bitch. Yes. Yeah. Uh, I don't know. I haven't heard from her in a while though. Yeah. Jung Wan is from an hyphen.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:50

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_04 1:03:51

He's 22. Tom Hiddleston is 45. Yikes.

unknown 1:03:58

What?

SPEAKER_04 1:03:58

I don't know. I looked at his picture, I was like, that's who Taylor was with forever. Okay. Joe Pesci is 83.

SPEAKER_06 1:04:06

Joe Pesci?

SPEAKER_04 1:04:07

Judith Light. What was she from that I recognized her?

SPEAKER_00 1:04:16

What a cute last name.

SPEAKER_03 1:04:19

Oh, she's from Desperate Housewives, right?

SPEAKER_00 1:04:22

I don't know.

SPEAKER_03 1:04:26

Is she Desperate Housewives?

SPEAKER_00 1:04:28

No, she's from Transparent. She's from Um Some Ryan Murphy show.

SPEAKER_04 1:04:34

I feel like what's her like big, big thing?

SPEAKER_00 1:04:38

Not Desperate Housewives. Transparent, right?

SPEAKER_04 1:04:43

I don't I've never heard of that.

SPEAKER_00 1:04:45

Are you on her IMDb?

SPEAKER_04 1:04:46

Yeah, I'm looking.

SPEAKER_00 1:04:47

What was her most recent show?

SPEAKER_04 1:04:50

Oh, this is not in recent order, I think.

SPEAKER_00 1:04:55

What? Was she in poker face?

SPEAKER_03 1:04:56

Hold. Hold please.

SPEAKER_04 1:05:02

Her most recent is called She's in All's Fair, which I didn't watch.

SPEAKER_00 1:05:07

Yes, she was in an episode of All's Fair. That's right.

SPEAKER_04 1:05:10

Um Yeah, poker face. The menu. She's in American Horror Story. She's in Tik Tick Boom. How do I do I just know that this person's she's in the politician? I watched that.

SPEAKER_00 1:05:22

Yeah, Ryan Murphy loves her.

SPEAKER_04 1:05:24

But I just felt like she raising hope.

SPEAKER_00 1:05:31

Transparent.

SPEAKER_04 1:05:32

Nurse Jackie. Ugly Betty. What? Who am I thinking of in Desperate Housewives then? Who's the boss? Felicity Hoffman. Okay. Anyway, happy birthday.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:44

Happy birthday.

SPEAKER_04 1:05:45

Rose Leslie, who is married to Jon Snow. She's in Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:05:50

She's in Game of Thrones. She's his higher shredhead.

SPEAKER_04 1:05:53

Yeah, she's his like love interest in Game of Thrones.

SPEAKER_00 1:05:57

Tilly kills her, spoiler alert.

SPEAKER_04 1:05:58

Oh my gosh. And then Jason George is 40. He I know him from Gray's Anatomy. I don't know what else he's in. Okay. But that's that.

SPEAKER_00 1:06:08

And then my birthday is Wednesday, you guys.

SPEAKER_04 1:06:10

Your birthday is Wednesday. Thank you. Okay. Well, thank you guys so much for listening, watching, engaging, and being just the most wonderful. What's the are they the A-listers? Is that the name?

SPEAKER_00 1:06:24

You guys are on the A-list. You're the A-listers.

SPEAKER_04 1:06:25

Well, thank you for being the best A-listers in the world. And you can drive, you can be in first class on R Titanic 3.

SPEAKER_00 1:06:31

That's right.

SPEAKER_04 1:06:32

When we make it.

SPEAKER_00 1:06:33

Setting sale in 2045.

SPEAKER_04 1:06:36

Thank you so much. Love you.

SPEAKER_00 1:06:37

Love you.