Big Bear Mishaps, Concert Chaos, And A Jaw-Dropping True Crime Doc

We catch up on a holiday cabin trip that goes slightly off the rails, then jump to a nostalgia-packed Hillary Duff concert with a security mix-up that nearly derails the night. Things get darker when we break down the shocking Mother’s Instinct documentary twist, then we close with quick takes on Taylor Swift and Travis Kelce wedding rumors and what fans think they’re owed. 

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Alex Hinsky

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Remote Setup And Green Day Work Week

SPEAKER_01 0:13

Welcome back to the A list of Steve Alison, Alex.

SPEAKER_00 0:17

I'm Alex.

SPEAKER_01 0:18

Steve Alison. I'm Alex.

SPEAKER_00 0:20

No, not good. Hey, hi everyone. Welcome.

SPEAKER_01 0:25

Hey, welcome back to the A-list.

SPEAKER_00 0:28

Oh, how much of a delay are we on?

SPEAKER_01 0:31

I actually don't think it's that much. I just happened to be paused for a long time right there.

SPEAKER_00 0:36

Oh, okay. Well, anyway, hi everyone. We are recording remotely today, so um we can have this in our back pocket if we ever need to. And today we needed to because of Alex's work schedule.

SPEAKER_01 0:53

Oh, yes, we have Green Day coming into the office next week. And their writer's actually not insane, but the the lift, it's like basically eight stages of BuzzFeed, and every stage is gonna have like a different press outlet in there. And then Green Day is gonna be like going around doing basically like interviews all day.

SPEAKER_00 1:14

Are they releasing an album or something?

SPEAKER_01 1:16

Or what movie called Nimrods.

SPEAKER_00 1:20

Everyone's got a movie these days.

SPEAKER_01 1:22

Everyone's got a motherfucking movie these days. Um but it's about their life, or I think.

SPEAKER_00 1:29

Oh, I mean, I don't think I'll be tuning in, but I'm happy for anyone that wants to.

SPEAKER_01 1:37

Yeah, we're very excited for those people tuning in. It's funny because it stars Mason uh Thomas and McKenna Grace, who were both also the leads in that, like that recent like rom com, rom sad rom dramedy.

SPEAKER_02 1:55

I don't know what that is.

SPEAKER_01 1:56

The one that had like Who's that guy you love from uh Now You See Me? Oh, not not him, the other one. The other one, the other one.

SPEAKER_00 2:08

Um Dave Franco. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 2:11

Uh there was that movie where they like Dave Franco. It was like that movie where Dave Franco It's like a love, it's like the the two part the wife and the husband die, and then they find out that they were having an affair with each other, and that's why they were together in the car crash. Sad. I watched it on an airplane.

SPEAKER_00 2:34

But that does sound quite sad. It's I do like Dave Franco.

SPEAKER_01 2:39

But McKenna Grace and that dude were the lead like kid actors that love interests, and they're the lead kid actor love interests in this Nimrod's movie, too. So funny.

SPEAKER_00 2:48

Okay. I do have uh something about that's the movie adjacent that I want to talk to after we talk about our week, you know. We have there to talk about, but I want to put a pin in the movies because I have something to talk about with that.

SPEAKER_01 3:04

Okay, pin you putting a pin in the movies.

Big Bear Cabin Wins And Weird Rules

SPEAKER_01 3:09

How was your 4th of July?

SPEAKER_00 3:11

Well, I was with you, so it was wonderful. It was the best one I ever had. It was it was nothing went according to plan, but No, but it was a it was a very relaxing and nice weekend. Like there was relaxation to be had. There was no drama, there was delicious food, there was a nook and cranny where you could lie down everywhere.

SPEAKER_01 3:40

That's true. It was probably one of the top, one of the top cabins I've stayed in. Aside from the fact that the refrigerator, like, kind of was cold.

SPEAKER_00 3:52

There was the freezer was not the with this house, like it was probably the best house we've stayed in at Big Bear in terms of cleanliness and like space and everything, comfort, yeah. But everything was just like a little not everything. There were a lot of things that were a little off in terms of like I know Airbnb or just like rental people in general like to keep, you know, certain things a certain way for like energy and like cost, keeping costs down. And so this place was kind of like you can set the temperature to this, but you can't go over this, and you can the refrigerator like would not get cold. It when we first got there, it was like pretty warm, and it took overnight for it only to get a little bit cold. So it's like, is it just in a really old bad fridge, or did they like do something internal that's like it won't go over a certain temperature?

SPEAKER_01 4:54

No, I feel like it I think its coolant was low, but rather than just like replace it, these Airbnbs do that, right? Like they try to hold out their stuff for as long as possible.

SPEAKER_00 5:04

They're like there was like a sign on it that was like food can be kept at this, or the temperature of the refrigerator can be at this for optimal, whatever, and food will your food will stay good. And it's like, okay, well, then you know that it's not that cold. Our stuff in the freezer like melted, like it was there was a few things that we threw out because we were nervous about everything was kind of fine, but it was just like okay, yeah. Yeah, like the hot tub wouldn't go over a certain temperature.

SPEAKER_01 5:34

The hot dog?

SPEAKER_00 5:35

Everything hot tub.

SPEAKER_01 5:37

Well, that's normal.

SPEAKER_00 5:39

Oh, I feel like I've been in way hotter hot tubs, no?

SPEAKER_01 5:44

Maybe it was just I feel there's always a cap for safety. You're right, it might have been it may have been like a lower cap than normal.

SPEAKER_00 5:51

Yeah. I don't know, but like it was and she was very nice. Like you found like some dried dog poo on the thing, and she was like apologetic and gave a late checkout for it.

SPEAKER_02 6:03

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_00 6:04

So like she was really nice.

SPEAKER_01 6:05

Like nice.

SPEAKER_00 6:07

Sometimes they're like, I don't know, deal with it type people. But yeah, it was overall, I guess. I'm sorry.

SPEAKER_01 6:15

I was gonna say she left me a nice review.

SPEAKER_00 6:20

So, but everything did not really go to plan. So Alex,

Boat Rental Glitch And Stanley Scare

SPEAKER_00 6:26

you can you can tell about the boat if you'd like. Oh yeah, Stanley has a story too.

SPEAKER_01 6:33

So Stanley likes to cause drama when you least expect it. Fourth of July, we were supposed to have a boat rental for 4th of July from 11 to 1. What? Stanley, what and we they let me go. Basically, what happened was the boat's capacity was six. We had a group of seven. I booked the boat for eight because I thought originally we were gonna have eight people there. And hold on, can you stop? Stanley, stop. He's obsessively snipping my leg. What?

SPEAKER_00 7:15

Well, does it smell weird?

SPEAKER_01 7:17

I don't know. So we were supposed to have a group of eight, so I booked it for eight. And then when I went to the checkout, it let me check out. The boat that we rented that I rented had a maximum capacity of six. They said their system should not have let me check out when I selected that there were eight of us. So it's a glitch in their system. But to their credit, she did say it says right here, and it's true, in the description of the boat, it says maximum capacity six. But you cannot check out till you put the number of people in your party. So she was like, You clearly didn't see this, like it was an oversight on your part, but it is also a mess up on our end for not having the system flag that.

unknown 8:01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 8:02

And they had no other boats available that day because it was the 4th of July. So they pushed us to the next day. They gave us a bigger boat, they didn't charge us more for the bigger boat. And truly, that ended up being great because it was a warmer day on the 5th.

SPEAKER_00 8:14

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 8:15

There's way less boats on the water. But we went back to the cabin and my dog had something lodged in his ear, and of course, was being so dramatic about it and caused quite a scene, and it took me out emotionally and mentally for the rest of the day. And he ended up being fine. But when I finally started to relax, I got into the hot tub, and then Stanley jumped into the hot tub just to be on me. Fully submerged his body in the hot tub. And TDH, it could be why he ended up being fine because it may have dislodged what was ever, whatever was in his ear. Whatever the case, it was stressful.

SPEAKER_00 8:53

Well, yeah, at first we didn't really know what it was was wrong with him because he was kind of just like shaking his head. And then like keep it like this. And he kind of like was like felt like he like wasn't walking right.

SPEAKER_01 9:07

Wasn't being able to stand upright.

SPEAKER_00 9:09

Yeah, his equilibrium was off or whatever. Yeah. And so it was like, is something like going on with the brain or whatever? So it was kind of like at first, like, yeah, scary. Like, what could that be? And then yeah, you went, you went to the Pet Smart, which somehow was open. That was crazy, or Petco, whatever it was.

SPEAKER_01 9:30

Whatever it was, I was happy.

SPEAKER_00 9:32

Yeah, and got a little like solution, and then a few hours later, like he was fine. But yeah, it was like a stressful couple hours.

SPEAKER_01 9:41

And my nerves were shot.

SPEAKER_00 9:44

Yeah. But then we had a good like night. We played beer pong. We were like, you know, true. We had a little fun night. And then the next day we went on the boat, and it was like so. I feel like it really would have been stressful on the boat on the fourth. Like it would have been bumper to bumper.

SPEAKER_02 10:03

It would have been.

SPEAKER_00 10:04

Because they probably don't rent out like that many for it to be like you can't. Yeah. So I think it was nice. I got so burnt. I so did Chad.

SPEAKER_01 10:16

So did Katie.

SPEAKER_00 10:17

Yeah, I kept applying, but like in that and like weird places. Like I still kind of have like right here, like a random like what is this formation?

SPEAKER_01 10:26

Sunspot. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 10:27

Like I just missed that. I don't know. But then we went, we went into the town, we walked around, we had lunch, we went to the scene of my accident where I fell down the stairs. Um, I forgot to get a picture. I was gonna like sit on the I forgot. That was so silly.

SPEAKER_01 10:45

Um we were having such a lovely time. It was a really nice outing that ended up being a really fun day. I came back more tired than when I left, so I don't love that.

SPEAKER_00 10:53

But yeah. Just so you weren't sleeping well or what?

SPEAKER_01 10:58

Oh yeah, it was just like like I tried to curate it so that on the on the fourth. No, yes, on the fourth, like I I was just annoyed because I was trying to make it so that there could be a full daytime where I didn't have to do anything that like operate a vehicle, but like I was always having to drive or do something, so it was just like armor.

SPEAKER_00 11:21

Yeah. But yeah, it was a good time, it was very relaxing.

SPEAKER_01 11:27

I'm glad that you relax.

SPEAKER_00 11:29

I'm so no, I did not.

SPEAKER_01 11:33

I came back pretty tired, but it's okay, it was still fun. And the drive back was nice, super fast.

Hillary Duff Night And Security Mix-Up

SPEAKER_01 11:41

Um then yesterday I went to Hillary Duff.

SPEAKER_00 11:46

Oh my gosh, yeah. So everyone did. It seems like everyone I know did.

SPEAKER_01 11:53

So many people went, and I didn't see anyone I knew there, but a girl that sat directly behind us is a friend of Chad's, which is like hilarious.

SPEAKER_00 12:00

Oh yeah. I mean, I was seeing so many people that were there. Did you what do you wear? Did you have some Hillary Garb on? Did you like costume?

SPEAKER_01 12:12

Um we just wore cat come uh what's the word? Trendy. We just look trendy.

SPEAKER_00 12:22

My friend Carrie, I saw she recreated the Lizzie McGuire outfit.

SPEAKER_01 12:26

So she had like platform orange, like sandals and oh god, there were so many, so many people were in costume, especially like not just like Lizzie's or Hillary, but there was also people dressed like Miranda. It was really cute.

SPEAKER_00 12:40

Oh yeah, cute. Um oh, I was gonna say just before we move on from Hillary. Um, so her brother on the show, what's his name? He's like in Caleb's friend group. So like I've like met him and now and had, and I just like didn't say like I knew who he was. He just like introduced himself as Jake, I think. Jake. And I was just like, hi, nice to meet you, and just like looking at him, being like, I know who obviously I know who you are, and I just wanted to repeat back to him his like memeable thing of like how he just wants to crack up.

SPEAKER_01 13:20

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 13:22

Just looking forward to cracking up. Oh, so that's been funny.

SPEAKER_01 13:28

We almost got like we there was a four songs in the in the set list that are like mid for me. So I was like, if we want to go like smoke some weed or something, we gotta do it during this time. So we went out and I asked us because you cannot leave and re-enter venues. So I was like, where's the smoking area? Yeah, and he was like, over there. And I was like, to be clear, like up this terrace or out and around. He goes, No, no, no, out and around. I was like, okay. So we walk out.

SPEAKER_00 13:56

Oh god.

SPEAKER_01 13:57

Maybe like we can still see this security bar. That's how close out we were. Stood by a trash can, took a couple hits, tried to go back. This other security guard's like, whoa, what are you what do you think you're doing?

SPEAKER_00 14:10

Oh my god.

SPEAKER_01 14:10

Just gave us so much attitude. We're both like, what do you mean? Like, obviously, we weren't trying to try to explain the situation. He's like, I don't care. You do not get to leave and re-enter an event.

SPEAKER_02 14:20

It's like Okay, well, you're security guard.

SPEAKER_01 14:24

We finally convinced him to bring someone from internal out. She comes out. We I was like, Look, please just go corroborate the story with the security guard. I asked him where to go. Obviously, we would have not walked out here expecting to get back in because that's why I asked. I'm not an idiot. I know that you cannot leave a venue and get back in. She was like, okay, hold on. She goes over, she clicked back, she's like, This is our mess up. He in my meeting before telling all everyone what where things were, I said the smoking area is around there. He thought that meant for everyone. That is for the workers. So he was directing you to where we would go to smoke. So I will escort you back in. Thank God. It's like that. But the security guard that was an asshole to us was you could tell he was so mad. He was so hoping that we'd be told, like, you guys gotta go. It's like we're not fucking lying.

SPEAKER_00 15:10

Literally, why do you care?

SPEAKER_01 15:12

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 15:13

Like, why wouldn't you be like, you guys, I'm really sorry. Like, I'm gonna have to call a superior because like I can't like fucking.

SPEAKER_02 15:19

Right.

SPEAKER_00 15:20

Why do people yeah? The same thing with the guy at the boat thing and it's he was so he was like, I don't know what you want me to tell you. I don't know what you want me to say. And we're just like, Can you just go get your boss? Like, I right like if we just figure it out, yeah, ridiculous.

SPEAKER_01 15:40

But the concert was great. It was so fun. She was so it was she's just so cute. It's just like she's just a mom who's like excited to get to tour again.

SPEAKER_00 15:50

Yeah, she looks great. Like, I've the same. She sounded great. She's iconic.

SPEAKER_01 15:57

It was iconic. It was really great. I'm glad I got to experience a Hillary Duff concert in my lifetime. Because like, who knows what she'll do it again? It really seems like she's like, all right, I'll do this, but like calm down, everyone.

SPEAKER_00 16:08

Oh, really? I feel like she's like, I'm back, you know?

SPEAKER_01 16:12

But maybe I feel like she's gonna go back to acting, which I always forget about that part. It's like this girl was like on a whole two massive TV shows. Well, three, but the third one just didn't make it.

SPEAKER_00 16:23

Well, oh, how I met your father.

SPEAKER_01 16:25

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 16:27

I know. I wish I didn't finish. I wanted to watch it, and I watched a couple episodes, but I just couldn't get into it. It's not her father.

SPEAKER_01 16:35

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 16:36

Because it had her and Josh Peck on it, like obviously.

SPEAKER_01 16:40

Yeah. That's TV.

SPEAKER_00 16:41

It's a match made in heaven for me.

SPEAKER_01 16:44

Everything you want on a TV show.

SPEAKER_00 16:46

Truly. Um, okay, so I need to talk about this documentary.

Mother’s Instinct Doc Twist And Fallout

SPEAKER_00 16:52

Did you watch the Motherly Instinct documentary? The what? It's called Motherly Instinct. It's a documentary.

SPEAKER_01 17:01

The one from like a year ago.

SPEAKER_00 17:04

Uh, if it came out a year ago, it just like got popular like recently.

SPEAKER_01 17:08

Oh no. You're not not the one where the mom was trolling her own daughter.

SPEAKER_00 17:12

No.

SPEAKER_01 17:13

Oh, no.

SPEAKER_00 17:13

Let me tell you about this. You guys, I have to say this. Like, so it's gonna be a spoiler alert for like five minutes because you I I have to talk about it. So this this documentary starts out with this girl driving a car. She calls 911 and she's like, I just had a my baby on the side of the road. I need help. Like, I'm trying to get to a hospital, like, someone help me. So she an ambulance comes, police come, she's holding this baby like in on her lap. She's driving, and there's like some blood, whatever. She's like, My husband is like, had to do a job. We're on our way to the hospital to get induced, but I had to pull over and I had the baby, whatever. So they go. This is all within the first like couple minutes. They go to the hospital and they're checking her out, and she like won't let them do a pelvic exam, like she's like being really weird. And so they call the police to come back, and then they get her to let the doctor do an exam. And then he walks out and he's like, This woman has not had a baby, and that's how the whole thing starts, and it is crazy. So then it rewinds back, and she's like, um has all these people from her former life doing this interview, and they're like, She is crazy. She lied about everything, she you know, she took on everyone's identities, like she couldn't really keep that many friends, and she would hop around and like those people would become her identity and all this stuff. And she has this boyfriend who she's has started dating, he runs a farm, so he's like kind of well off, but like, you know, farmers are kind of rich, but like, you know, they're down south somewhere, and she tells him that her family are millionaires, and she is about to get her like trust fund paid out to her. And so she's like, as soon as I get this money, like we're gonna do all these things. I like we're gonna buy a new ranch, and she's like buying his mom, she bought his mom a new car. She they go and like have all these real estate meetings where they're like gonna buy this like multi-million dollar estate for like this big ranch, whatever. And everyone's just like, Whoa, they think she's like so rich. But then her story's kind of weird because like her she like talks a lot of shit on her family. She's like, My mom's crazy, like the reason I don't have my money yet is my mom's trying to withhold it from me, and my mom this and this and this, like my mom is crazy, basically. So everyone is like kind of suspicious of that, but they're like believing her because like she dresses kind of nice, and then like things start happening, like the car that she bought her boyfriend's mom gets repossessed, and they call her and they're like, Well, we took she's like, Why did you guys take my car? And she's like, Well, the car was never paid for, so it's not your car, and then the real estate thing. Whoa, the guy like that's selling is trying to get a hold of the agents, and he's like, None of this money she said that she's wiring me is coming through. Like, we've got to get a move on this, whatever. And the real estate agent is like defending the girl, being like, he's asking all these questions, and she's like, You're crossing the line asking these questions. Like, she's trying to defend her because she wants obviously she wants this commission. Duh. Yeah. Um, but like weird things are happening at that, and it's going back to her like friends from when she was younger, kind of talking, and they're kind of like, She's, you know, you can't trust her. So then she tells her boyfriend that she's pregnant. And he's like, you know, I guess he's excited, but he is also a little worried about everyone kind of telling him that she's a little off and that he can't trust her, but he's also like, I do like her, now she's pregnant, like all these things. Um, and then it says it goes to one of her old friends, and they're like, She's not pregnant. I know she's not pregnant because she had a hysterectomy 10 years ago. So there's no possible way that she can be pregnant. And yeah, so she's like in this whole lie. She's wearing like a fake belly, except she's not wearing it a hundred percent of the time because some people will see her out. And it's like her belly's not that big. And then she'll post a picture on Facebook the next day, and it's significantly bigger. And it's like she's not being consistent, which, like, girl, if you're gonna lie about being pregnant, you have got to wear that thing 24 seconds.

SPEAKER_01 22:15

All the time. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 22:16

And the boyfriend's kind of like, she won't let me really see her. She says she's self-conscious about her body. So, like, I haven't seen her naked. We haven't really had sex. Like, he's like, I'm just trying to be respectful because I don't want her to feel bad about herself, type of thing. And so she's kind of lost friends because they're like, You're girl, you're weird. I'm like taking a step back. So she makes this new friend. Um, she said that she was a wedding photographer, she was not, but she gets a job doing pictures for this girl's wedding. And then she becomes this girl's best friend. Like, they're in the interview, the sister of this girl is, and she's like, you know, she infiltrated the bridal party. She was like, she was like became one of the bridal party, basically. Like, wow, that's how close, like fast they became friends, and they were like super close and all these things. She took the pictures, all this stuff, and this girl becomes her best friend. This girl is also pregnant. Actually, she's actually pregnant. And remember, I said earlier she takes on the persona of the person she's close to. So this girl, she's like, Oh my god, we're pregnant at the same time. This is so exciting. It cuts to a former boss that she had, and this lady is like, I hired her, and we got really close because I had just lost my baby like a couple months prior. Like, she had some weird brain thing that happened and she passed away, like only a couple days old. This girl had told her the same thing happened to her. She and so they bonded over the fact that they had lost their babies really young, and so they're crying together. And this girl was like, I was like so happy that I had found someone, bless you, to um be able to talk to about this like very traumatic thing that happened to me. So it's just like she's just one after another. So her due date comes and her due date goes, and she is gonna had a baby. All these people who like knew her when she was younger, they live like a couple towns away. They're watching the Facebook like a hawk. They're like, We know she's not pregnant because we know she can be pregnant. So what's she gonna do? Um, the time has passed where she could say she lost it, you know.

SPEAKER_02 24:32

Okay, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 24:33

Like had a miscarriage, and like there's no, like, you know what I mean? Like, that's a there's a fun line when that could happen versus when like that could happen, but you actually have to like birth, you know. Yes, yes. So that time coming comes and goes, and she hasn't had the baby. So they're like, what's she gonna do? And um she it's been like a month over her due date, which then also like people who have had babies before are like, you don't go like this long. They're gonna like induce you, like over a month over. Yeah, your due date is like, yeah, you're not going that far. You're going a couple weeks, maybe whatever, but like at some point they're gonna induce you. So then she says, Okay, we're we've got a date to be induced. The boyfriend obviously has no freaking clue about babies or anything, he's just along for the ride, but he's also kind of on to her, but he just doesn't know what to do. So the day they're gonna get induced, they go to she's like, um, he has a job to go do in a town away. Like he has to go like transport some pigs or something to another farm. And he's like, I don't have to do that. Like, I can reschedule so that I can drive you to the hospital. And she's like, No, no, no, we need the money, even though she's like rich. I don't know, whatever. She's like, We need the money, just like go do it. I'll drive myself there, and then you'll meet me an hour later and we'll be good. So then, in the meantime, now we're back to the phone call to the police. I've just had my baby in the car. What we didn't know is that she drove her crazy self over to her friend who is pregnant. She had looked up the night before how to con how to how to her how to conduct a C-section on the dark web. Okay she goes to her friend's house, murders her, takes her baby out of her body, and then drives to the hospital to try to act like she has birthed this baby. Where in the world was she gonna get away with like not having like having trauma in her vagina? Yeah, none of it. Like she thought she thought they weren't gonna look. She thought that her friend would be discovered and her baby would be stolen. And like, I just she I don't understand people who are this like psycho, but they also aren't thinking past their current move. Like she's lying about her pregnancy, but yet she's not wearing the belly 24-7. Yeah, she's like gonna go steal this baby, but her plan is just to call the police on herself. She called the police on herself. What? Yeah, she didn't even like try to flee. They're in or they might have been in Texas. So, like, she didn't even try to like flee to Mexico or somewhere to like get away. She's just like, I'm gonna get away with murdering this person and stealing this baby. Sadly, the baby survived? No, which is so sad. Both, I mean, obviously both, yeah, are so sad. But I my jaw was on the floor, this whole documentary. I know I just spoiled it for you.

SPEAKER_01 27:40

And is it a movie or a series?

SPEAKER_00 27:43

It's just one episode documentary.

SPEAKER_01 27:46

Oh, hell yeah. What's it called?

SPEAKER_00 27:48

Motherly Instinct. I did just tell you everything, but I had to because it's fine.

SPEAKER_01 27:52

I would still watch it.

SPEAKER_00 27:53

Like, jaw on the floor the entire time. I thought she was just gonna steal. I thought like she was just gonna steal a baby, you know what I mean? Like go into a small town hospital that might not have a lot of security and just swipe it. Yeah. Like I didn't think she was going to like fully murder her so-called best friend and cut this baby out of her body.

SPEAKER_01 28:14

And this is the woman that she was like doing the wedding photography for?

SPEAKER_00 28:18

Yeah. So she's currently on death row. She's awaiting her. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 28:24

What years, yeah. What was the year of all this?

SPEAKER_00 28:27

Like around COVID, like 2020, 2021. How did we not see this in the news?

SPEAKER_01 28:32

I don't know. I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 28:33

I guess, I guess, like it's a good thing.

SPEAKER_01 28:35

Death row, so she must be in Texas.

SPEAKER_00 28:38

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 28:39

Holy shit.

SPEAKER_00 28:40

There's only like six women in Texas, like, on death row, and she's one of them. Isn't that insane? I don't know. You guys, I know I spoiled it, but like you you need to go like see this girl's face.

SPEAKER_01 28:52

Yeah, that's what I mean. Like I want to take in all of the Um I don't know how old she is.

SPEAKER_00 28:57

I think like early 30s is my I'm looking up. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 29:05

And she just like Texas woman, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 29:08

Yeah, I wanna actually see if anyone's interviewed her. Like, does she see feel like she has remorse? I wanna know what is on what her Oh, maternal instinct. Oh, sorry. I wanna know, like, what has she been diagnosed with something? Is she like right?

SPEAKER_01 29:26

No, it is mother's instinct.

SPEAKER_00 29:27

What would I I don't know?

SPEAKER_01 29:31

Maternal instinct is an actual movie movie.

SPEAKER_00 29:34

Okay. I mean, yeah, it definitely makes a good movie. But I have been waiting to tell you about this.

SPEAKER_01 29:42

That's crazy.

SPEAKER_00 29:43

Yeah, highly recommend, but again, I spoiled it.

unknown 29:47

Sorry.

SPEAKER_01 29:48

No, I would still watch it. Oh, she looks a little scary.

SPEAKER_00 29:51

Yeah, but I want to know if she's been diagnosed with something and what that is, or if she's just like narcissistic. But you have to be like a psychotic to be able to do that.

SPEAKER_01 30:02

100%.

SPEAKER_00 30:04

How do you think that's a good idea?

SPEAKER_01 30:05

Oh man, she's 33.

SPEAKER_00 30:08

Oh yeah. So she was like late 20s when it happened.

SPEAKER_01 30:11

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 30:13

How so was that? Um, the mother of the woman that she killed is in it, and her sister, and that was very sad. That made me cry. Because they played her um call to the police when she found her. I just can't imagine. Oh, yeah, she are also had another daughter that she locked in the other room, which I guess like that was nice of you to do to like so she didn't see it happen.

SPEAKER_01 30:46

But that woman was 21. October 9th of 2020 is when it happened. Wild.

SPEAKER_00 30:58

Oh, she also um faked a like a paper that said she was pregnant. Because people were like maybe questioning a little bit. So she doctored some sheet that was like showed her positive pregnancy test, but she forgot to change the date. It said 2016.

SPEAKER_01 31:18

Oh my god.

SPEAKER_00 31:19

So immediately people were like, why does the date say 2016? And then she was like, Oh, there was a mix-up at the hospital. They said that they have a whole like day's worth of paperwork that has the wrong date on it, and they'll get me, they'll get me a new one. Like she just had an answer for everything.

SPEAKER_01 31:36

Damn.

SPEAKER_00 31:37

But like, why are you that bad at lying? Like, why wouldn't you check every single thing if you're gonna lie at it?

SPEAKER_01 31:43

Totally. Cover all your tracks.

SPEAKER_00 31:45

You're not gonna read through the paper and see that it says 2016.

SPEAKER_01 31:50

That is bizarre behavior. It's crazy, and yeah. Yeah, she definitely had to be diagnosed with something.

SPEAKER_00 31:57

Definitely. But not enough to give it away. Oh like, thank God.

SPEAKER_01 32:01

Did you like did you stumble across this or were you like, did you hear about it and then you No, I had heard someone say they didn't give it away.

SPEAKER_00 32:09

Um they had just kind of said the beginning of it. Um, but I feel like it's been out long enough. Uh but yeah, it was I had to see it. And I haven't watched documentary in a minute. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 32:24

Well, I loved that one about I mean loved, it was sad, but the one about the mom who was trolling her own daughter. Like that was crazy.

SPEAKER_00 32:31

Oh, yeah, and I never watched that one.

SPEAKER_01 32:34

You have to watch it.

SPEAKER_00 32:36

I will. Even though you're not sure. I'm like excited about documentaries. Yeah. Now I'm like in documentary mode. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 32:44

There's a new Titan sub one.

SPEAKER_00 32:47

What's that? Oh, Titan. The Titan submarine. I don't I heard that as one word, and I was like, what does that mean?

unknown 32:55

Oh.

SPEAKER_01 32:56

Have you watched The Devil Wars Prada 2 yet?

SPEAKER_00 32:58

No, I'm so behind.

SPEAKER_01 33:00

Me either. I'm so behind. I actually don't even know the last time I've been to a movie.

SPEAKER_00 33:05

I think it's been since Wicked Part One. Oh, I've been since then. That is

Taylor Swift Wedding Rumors And Reactions

SPEAKER_00 33:11

a long time. I feel like the only other thing, you know, that happened in the week of pop culture is Taylor's Linning, which we don't know everything about, but we know some things about.

SPEAKER_01 33:23

Right. We don't, yeah, we don't know much about, actually.

SPEAKER_00 33:25

What are your thoughts?

SPEAKER_01 33:26

What do you know about it?

SPEAKER_00 33:28

Um, I mean, I have just like, I guess this is a couple days old when I put this page six thing in. Um, but it's like we know that one of Travis's friends like leaked the invitation.

SPEAKER_01 33:45

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_00 33:46

Or like someone that knows him leaked the invitation. Um, we've seen like some of the decor that was taken out. So it was like basically like a castle garden that was built inside. Some people think that it was quite millennial, chooky, cringy.

SPEAKER_01 34:07

Oh really?

SPEAKER_00 34:08

But like, what do we expect? It's she is she's never not acted like she's not that true.

SPEAKER_01 34:14

That's true.

SPEAKER_00 34:15

But also, like, we don't see everything is so different when there's like lighting, and I think that people are thinking like this like set piece that they're seeing. Yeah, it looks like kind of cringy out of the context, but yeah, I'm sure once we see pictures and things, it's gonna be like, oh, that was beautiful. Um I do think that it's weird that they're they were like giving away Chanel bags. I don't understand the context of that.

SPEAKER_01 34:50

Like I didn't even hear that.

SPEAKER_00 34:52

Yeah, it was um let me see. Jackie Tranquil showed off the pricey Chanel purse she won during the raffle at Taylor Swift and Travis Kelsey's wedding, which she attended with her husband, who's a linebacker on the Chiefs.

SPEAKER_01 35:08

A raffle?

SPEAKER_00 35:10

Yeah. A raffle at a wedding? I don't know about that.

SPEAKER_01 35:15

That's so unless it was for charity, that's weird.

SPEAKER_00 35:18

But she had already had already donated. So I mean you're right. I guess there would have to be like if they're if they had to buy tickets to a raffle, there's no way she's keeping that money. That would look crazy. So it would have to be a good thing.

SPEAKER_01 35:36

Yeah, and they definitely don't need like help fund our honeymoon.

SPEAKER_00 35:39

Right. So it's like they had to, I guess, just be like, here's a raffle ticket. Maybe just for the reception, maybe because there's so many people in attendance that she they were worried that people might get bored during the reception. So they were trying to do random things to be interactive. I don't know. I think it that is the one thing I'm like weird about. But everything else, I'm just like you just gotta wait till you see the video, I'm sure. And because we haven't seen anything, it really doesn't work. Yeah, they're definitely like that it was filmed for something, don't you think?

SPEAKER_01 36:24

Okay, I I thought that boyfriend uh is pretty adamant that it's not.

SPEAKER_00 36:29

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 36:31

Do you think anyone's whether that's inside information that you just yeah.

SPEAKER_00 36:36

Well, do you think people are ever gonna be able to post anything? Then no. Is she just gonna post ever a picture? No.

SPEAKER_01 36:43

No, I don't think so.

SPEAKER_00 36:44

Oh, interesting.

unknown 36:46

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 36:46

Yeah, of course she will. Of course she will. Yeah, I think she will.

SPEAKER_00 36:49

Yeah, I think at least that. Like you It sucks because obviously she they don't owe anyone anything, which we don't have a lot of time. But next week, I really need to talk about this a situation with a YouTuber that um people think they're entitled to all of their you know, knowledge. But Taylor, they don't owe us anything. But it is like you know that people want to see so badly, so at least a little picture or a carousel of like the inside, or even like not really of blue guys, maybe just of like the set design. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 37:38

I would love to see that. I also know like I've seen some footage, I've seen some footage from them on their honeymoon.

SPEAKER_00 37:44

Oh, I haven't. Where are they?

SPEAKER_01 37:48

They're like on a swing, on a swing in the Bahamas, and someone is filming them from behind.

SPEAKER_00 37:53

Yeah, that sucks. I know people were mad about the shutting down of all the streets, but I think like it was because it was like, why are we using resources for this? But what I did see allegedly is that Madison Square Garden, like the fee that they paid for Madison Square Garden, included the police detail for it. And I don't know if she was wanting the streets to be shut down or if they were like, for safety, we want to just do this so that we can control it. It might not be her that was like needing it to be shut down. So yeah, some a lot of people are mad about that. So dunno.

SPEAKER_01 38:41

I will be very interested to see what comes out because surely something's gonna come, more is gonna come out. Just what and I agree, I kind of still think something was filmed.

SPEAKER_00 38:52

Yeah, I don't know. Like it is like I don't know that I actually would I think it that might be also pretty cringy, I guess, if it's like a documentary of the wedding when you went like all this way for it to be public, but maybe just like a little video for social media that's just like a montage, like that might be cute.

SPEAKER_01 39:15

I would love that.

SPEAKER_00 39:16

Yeah. Um, also some notable people that were not in attendance is Blake Lively. Like, yeah. Um who else? That was the big one, obviously.

SPEAKER_02 39:33

Yeah, was there anyone else?

SPEAKER_00 39:34

I mean, there were some people now. We know um Margaret Quayley wasn't there, Quali wasn't there, but now we know that they're getting divorced. Her and Jack Antonov. Who Jack and Margaret Quali, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 39:50

I did not know that.

SPEAKER_00 39:51

That was just like this week that it was.

SPEAKER_01 39:53

They just got married last year.

SPEAKER_00 39:55

I think they was it last year? It was a couple years. Maybe the year before. That was like during the error's career, right? But also Blake not being there, but possibly Carly Kloss being there. Either she got all dressed up and took a picture to look like she was going, or she went, which is interesting.

SPEAKER_01 40:23

That would be interesting. I did see a guy on TikTok today explain why Blake wouldn't have been invited, because I guess there he was like, he broke it down and it made sense. I need to find the TikTok, but it is like when her shit hit the fan because her lawsuit was dismissed with an 110-page reason from the judge, it she tried to drag everyone down with her, I guess, including Taylor, and that is why he's like, and that is why she was not invited to the wedding.

SPEAKER_00 40:51

I mean, yeah, definitely. But also she it's not.

SPEAKER_01 40:56

Her reputation's kind of toast right now.

SPEAKER_00 40:58

Yeah, because those like text messages that we saw were Taylor's like trying to be a good friend and be like, hey, like you're acting different to me, right? And then I don't know. Yeah. Then she's like in this whole thing, she's bringing Taylor into it. She's like asking her to do all these things. Like, I would be frustrated too. Like, do not bring me into your shit. Um I agree.

SPEAKER_01 41:26

It's very annoying.

SPEAKER_00 41:27

It is very annoying, but Taylor does seem to like keep friends around her that, you know, sometimes are controversial. So I honestly thought she would be there. So that is pretty indicative. Yeah, I was a little surprised. But Carly Kloss weird because like during the Air's Tour, she didn't sit in the tent. So then we were like, oh, like they're not actually friends. Like, why would she not be sitting in the tent? Why would she come to this and not sit in the tent? And obviously they haven't been seen together. That's very although. I was gonna say, like, it's not like they reconnected as friends and they went out to dinner together, and it's like we are cool now, like nothing has happened that the public is like, oh, they're cool now. It's like the one thing she went to the airstore, she didn't sit in the tent, and then now she's like at her wedding when like were they lovers? Yeah, no one knows, right? I know that is the one I'll never know. I could care less about Blake Lively. I want to know what went on with that.

Lists Of The Week And Goodbye

SPEAKER_00 42:40

Okay, quickly, do you have any of the week?

SPEAKER_01 42:45

It's Hillary Duff, of course. My list of the week is to listen to more Hillary Duff.

SPEAKER_00 42:50

Oh, yeah. Mine, of course. I love her. Can you guess mine?

SPEAKER_01 42:57

Documentaries. Any and all.

SPEAKER_00 43:00

My dense bean salad.

SPEAKER_01 43:01

What is it?

SPEAKER_00 43:02

My dense bean salad that I made for the 4th of July. It was a great hit. Everyone loved it. Everyone was eating it at all times. You know, if it's like in between means I want a little snack, I'll have some bean salad. I made another one when I came home. I've been eating on it all week.

SPEAKER_01 43:22

So I will I do want you to know, up until we literally cleaned out the fridge, everyone was partaking in that dense bean salad.

SPEAKER_00 43:30

I feel so good. So yeah, that is my list.

SPEAKER_01 43:34

You should.

SPEAKER_00 43:35

And he did try it.

SPEAKER_01 43:36

You all you are gloried up and dense beans.

SPEAKER_00 43:39

Alex did end up trying it. He didn't like it, but he did eat what I gave him. He cleaned his plate.

SPEAKER_01 43:47

The flavor was good. I just it's the texture of beans is hard for Alex.

SPEAKER_00 43:53

Yeah. I'm proud of you though.

SPEAKER_01 43:56

What can I say? Thank you.

SPEAKER_00 43:58

Okay, well, Alex has to jet to another meeting. Thank you all for listening. Hopefully, this um remote recording went well. And if we need to do it again, it will be good. So feedback is welcomed.

SPEAKER_01 44:13

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 44:15

And we'll see you in the next one.

SPEAKER_01 44:16

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SPEAKER_00 44:22

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SPEAKER_01 44:32

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