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We’re all over the map, starting with a heartfelt Maci Remembrance Day and ending with the exact kind of pop culture whiplash that makes our group chat feel like a full-time job. Along the way, we celebrate a Netflix milestone, unpack the weird corners of our algorithms, and get honest about the messy line between concern and intrusion. 

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Allison Florea

Alex Hinsky

Accents And A Party Lookalike

SPEAKER_00

Okay, so last week I tried to do the episode with a British accent. Oh please don't. No.

SPEAKER_03

What are you gonna do today actually? What did you think I was gonna say? South South African? South African? No, take scratch that. That wasn't good.

SPEAKER_00

That was too hard.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Uh Todo. I could do an Australian accent. That's a little Kiwi. That was a little Kiwi, I think.

SPEAKER_03

Okay.

SPEAKER_00

Accent is a little um New Zealand.

SPEAKER_03

I thought New Zealand was Kiwi.

SPEAKER_00

Yes. Alright, yes. Okay. Um it's very it feels to me, it feels like it's more bake in the throat, like that.

SPEAKER_03

Have you taken a dialect class?

SPEAKER_00

No. But I I'm dying to get put in a show or something where it's required because I think I would come, it would happen for me easily.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, I think a couple with someone. Yeah, you work with someone a couple times.

SPEAKER_00

Like and he did rivalry, how he was able to get like the Russian accent.

SPEAKER_03

Oh, right. I forgot he's not Russian.

SPEAKER_00

No, he's such a gosh.

SPEAKER_03

I went to a one of Caleb's parties and there was a man that looked exactly like that guy. And I walked in and I like out of the corner of my eye saw him.

SPEAKER_00

Did we talk about this? Because I also saw him at the party I was at of Caleb's.

SPEAKER_03

It was the same party.

SPEAKER_00

The same no.

SPEAKER_03

Yes. It was the same party. I just got there later than you.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, that was crazy. I was like, for a second, my god, I'm gonna meet him. And then it wasn't him. And I'm sure that guy really gets a lot of.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, yeah, yeah. He he has the haircut.

SPEAKER_03

He should honestly just be like an impersonator and just get.

Macy Remembrance And Rescue Story

SPEAKER_03

Well, everyone, today is Macy Remembrance Day.

SPEAKER_00

This is the next it was the next thing I was gonna say. Today is Macy Remembrance Day where we remember Macy girl.

SPEAKER_03

Yes, this is the day that she left us, and her birthday is in April.

SPEAKER_00

Yes.

SPEAKER_03

So that's a different time.

SPEAKER_00

This is This is the day she crossed the Rainbow Bridge. Yes. And we think back on her fondly. We were just looking at some photos and videos.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah. I was showing Stanley and then I was tearing up, and then I had to stop.

SPEAKER_00

I miss her. I miss her. She was such a good dog. She was a lot of things. Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_03

Macy was my dog. If you if you're listening and you don't know that, she was Macy.

SPEAKER_00

Um, yes. Pure bred Pomeranian, even though I did not believe it.

SPEAKER_03

I know.

SPEAKER_00

But you got the test.

SPEAKER_03

I did. I got her off the side of the road in 2011, I believe.

SPEAKER_00

That would make sense if she died when she was 12, yeah.

SPEAKER_03

Yes. Um, I was driving past the uh just driving down the road. I was like on my lunch break, I think, from my work, and I saw this man holding up a dog underneath her little armpits, and she had a sign around her neck that said four sale, the number four.

SPEAKER_00

How much?

SPEAKER_03

And I skirted over.

SPEAKER_00

How much?

SPEAKER_03

Uh like $200.

SPEAKER_00

That just is unbelievable for a purebred Pomeranian.

SPEAKER_03

Well, like she should be more or less.

SPEAKER_00

More.

SPEAKER_03

Oh, I was I thought that was expensive. For like, I don't know you. You're on the side of the road. You could you could be anything. It was definitely like breeding.

SPEAKER_00

Stanley was $100.

SPEAKER_03

Uh on Craigslist.

SPEAKER_00

On Craigslist at a gas station. But I'm just saying that for context, I have been looking because boyfriend is like pretty obsessed with Stanley. Yeah. So he wants a girl Stanley. And I was like, look, we can do try our best, but you there's no guarantee that this have different breeds in him too, right? Oh my god, he's he's an American pit bull after Shih Tzu. But predominantly Shih Tzu, and I think his attributes are more are mostly Shih Tzu.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

So I'm looking for him too, right? Yes. I'm looking for Shih Tzus. And to get one, the not the best way, everyone. I was just curious. And I was looking if I could like find a Stanley. So I found like a website for Shih Tzu's of California, basically. All these different breeders. You can see the mom and the dad, and I I there's a bunch that look like him. They don't have the smushed face.

SPEAKER_03

Like Stanley has the regular These are just like regular people that have other Shih Tsus that are like we're having them make babies and correct. Is that ethical or not?

SPEAKER_00

No, but the cheapest one, 3,500.

SPEAKER_01

Oh my gosh.

SPEAKER_00

I no.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

I I thought that I'm obviously I'm uneducated. Disclaimer, you don't know. I'm uneducated on this because I was 21 years old when I got Macy, and again, I just thought she was cute on the side of the road, and I was like I have to have it.

SPEAKER_00

Honestly, you also didn't believe she was purebred. No. Because she was so tall.

SPEAKER_03

I thought she had chihuahua. Yeah, for sure, for sure. Um but obviously there's a lot of dogs that needed to be need to be adopted.

SPEAKER_00

And that's why I think it's quote unethical.

SPEAKER_03

Okay. Like I I thought the biggest thing was like the puppy mills that they're like churning them out and like because they do a lot of inbreeding.

SPEAKER_00

That's bad.

SPEAKER_03

Which I'm pretty sure Macy was pretty inbred.

SPEAKER_00

It's possible.

SPEAKER_03

That's maybe why she was a little crazy. But yeah, I got to be able to do that. She was also very smart.

SPEAKER_00

She was a pretty smart dog.

SPEAKER_03

She was smart. She just, when I got her 23 and me back, and I got some family tree vibes, it was giving like her mom is also her sister. I don't know. Like something strange.

SPEAKER_00

That's probably not possible, but it would be if the ma if it was the same dad.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah. Like, but there also could be someone out there who just has half their dogs, they like accidentally got pregnant.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, and I'm gonna have I'm keeping an eye out because like he he does he's willing to pay, but not $3,500.

SPEAKER_03

That is just someone trying to pay.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, that's just someone trying to it's a business I don't want to like contribute to. Yeah, um, anyway, back to Macy. So we miss Macy. She was I mean, she was in my life for I got her for two, I had her around for two years.

SPEAKER_03

Seems like longer, but yeah.

SPEAKER_00

I know because we she moved technically like three times. Oh my gosh, yeah.

SPEAKER_03

I moved here in February of 2021, and my ma she didn't come out here until my mom brought her out in like June.

SPEAKER_00

June, yeah. And then I met her in July when Alison was desperate to have someone take her out because she was going to Disneyland.

SPEAKER_03

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_00

And I just met Allison once.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, but I knew that you would it's like I can do it. I trusted you, I guess.

SPEAKER_00

And it was, I was like, I walk I remember I'll never forget because I walked into Caleb and Cameron's apartment in Noho at the time. I could not find her, remember? I was like, where is she?

SPEAKER_03

She was behind something.

SPEAKER_00

She was they had like a table with a bench seat. She was like up on that bench seat in the corner, just watching me, not making a noise.

SPEAKER_03

I was like, Okay, you freak.

SPEAKER_00

Anyway.

SPEAKER_03

Um, yeah, and then we moved in together in like February. Like the next February is out there.

SPEAKER_00

Correct, February 22.

SPEAKER_03

There for six months, moved into the bungalow for a year, and then she was only with me for like another.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, because when we were moving out, it was like when she started to decline.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Anyway, but we remember we think back on her fondly, and there are so many cute and fun videos. And it reminded me today. I'm gonna I'm gonna show boyfriend because Stanley loved having a sister. Yeah, they ran around, they played he loved they she would play with him, and that just reminded me that like his quality of life would probably be greatly improved if he had a little friend.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, because he had a friend before. He had a friend isn't used to living with another dog.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, he's yeah, this is like until he I moved out of living with you, he'd always had a dog. Yeah, always well it's time. I think so. I'm gonna talk about it.

SPEAKER_03

Not time for me. I'm not ready yet.

SPEAKER_00

No, you can just come. Allison's gonna stay and watch Stanley here this weekend and do laundry.

SPEAKER_03

Wow. I can have Central Air for a weekend and I can do all my laundry. I'm excited.

SPEAKER_00

And you can well, let's start the show.

SPEAKER_01

Okay.

SPEAKER_02

Welcome

Gay And Trying Lands On Netflix

SPEAKER_02

back to the A-List Podcast.

SPEAKER_00

I'm Allison, I'm Alex. Guys, my show Gay and Trying is on Netflix.

SPEAKER_01

That's so exciting.

SPEAKER_00

It's wild.

SPEAKER_01

I didn't know this was happening.

SPEAKER_00

So we were told maybe like a month ago, okay, hey, there's a deal being made between BuzzFeed and Netflix. Where like Netflix is doing this thing, like I don't know, you're seeing, I don't know if you've seen this, but like podcasts are now coming to Netflix. Yeah. So they're doing more with like internet content. They made a deal with Buzzfeed, and then it was mentioned, like, and and we think I think Antryan's going. I was like, I'll believe when I see it. Then Dylan told me like a week ago or two weeks ago, he was like, Yeah, it's actually happening. Like, we're slated to go. The four long form episodes from last year. And I was like, no way. It wasn't supposed to be till like August 7th. And then yesterday he sends me a screenshot that had it went up on August 1st.

SPEAKER_01

How does the upload of that work?

SPEAKER_00

Someone at Netflix worked with our DIT team.

SPEAKER_03

So they just sent it to them.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, they did all of the uploading. And because now it has like a logo at the end that says like BuzzFeed Studios. That's new.

SPEAKER_03

Um, yeah, everyone go watch.

SPEAKER_00

But here's the funny part. If you searched in Netflix, gay were the first thing that pops up.

SPEAKER_03

Oh my gosh, you are because it's in our title.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

Wow.

SPEAKER_00

So anyway, go to Netflix, search gay.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, I like I can't believe I didn't walk in and ask you that. I meant like I saw it yesterday and I like it. I was like, I need to talk about this, and then yeah, so it's on.

SPEAKER_00

I don't know. This could lead to other things, I'm sure, but for now it's just cool to say I have a show on Netflix. It's pretty sweet. I don't know how long the deal is. I don't think it's not like in per in perpetuity. I want to say it's like maybe a two-year deal or something. So it'll at least live there for a couple of years.

SPEAKER_03

And definitely people are searching gay.

SPEAKER_00

Definitely people are searching gay.

SPEAKER_03

Gays and straits.

SPEAKER_00

That's true. So I didn't tell my parents.

SPEAKER_03

Oh my gosh, do you think that they will do you think that they there's any way it would come across their desk? Like if they're on Netflix.

SPEAKER_00

No.

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Dang it.

SPEAKER_00

I don't, but I do think how funny if bringing up Bobby was on Netflix. I have this Christian content and this gay content just living on Netflix. It isn't, but that would be funny.

SPEAKER_03

Maybe you should try to sell it to them. You don't own it.

SPEAKER_00

I have no rights to that movie whatsoever.

SPEAKER_03

Well, anyway, what's going on with you?

Escape Room Date Night Debrief

SPEAKER_03

Not a lot. I did an escape room last night.

SPEAKER_00

Get out.

SPEAKER_03

I know. I'm sorry.

SPEAKER_00

Guys, I haven't done an escape room since the last time I did an escape room with you, and Caitlin was here like two years ago. Me.

SPEAKER_01

Two years.

SPEAKER_00

I over 150 escape rooms, and I haven't done one in two years. Yeah. Did you do the Titanic one?

SPEAKER_03

No, I would never do that without you. That's insane. I um no, Josh and I were like, um, we haven't gone on a date. Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Okay, you're forgiven.

SPEAKER_03

He he suggested we do an escape room. So, you know, it's always hard to look up what have I done, what have I not done. I don't remember. I did have that app on my phone where I was like trying to mark them off. But I at some point stopped. So I don't know. But yeah. No, we I went to Universal Studios City Walk for the first time.

SPEAKER_00

And that one that they have there is new.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah. So I knew it was like, I know I've done none of these.

SPEAKER_00

None of them, yeah.

SPEAKER_03

So that was safe. So we did one.

SPEAKER_00

But isn't that the one where you're are you put with strangers?

SPEAKER_03

No, so I looked at it and I thought it was gonna do that because I just like clicked two and then we weren't.

SPEAKER_00

It was a private game. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

Why did I think that that was and it was cheaper than everyone else? It was only $49 a person, and everywhere else is at least like $50 to $55.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. So how was it?

SPEAKER_03

And and you didn't have to, we didn't have to buy a third ticket.

SPEAKER_00

A lot of times it'll be like minimum three. Yeah. If you if it's just two of you, you have to pay for three.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

How did it how'd it go?

SPEAKER_03

It was hard because I am so out of practice.

SPEAKER_00

Oh my god, yeah, we are out of practice.

SPEAKER_03

And I missed a lot of things that I was like mad at myself for missing. But I will say this one. So the theme was like a crime scene. And so it was you were doing two things. What? Solving a crime. Solving the crime and you were escaping.

SPEAKER_00

60 minutes?

SPEAKER_03

60 minutes. So this one I will say, you you need at least three people for this because you have to like gather the evidence, and they give you this little like clipboard thing that they're like, you should like take all the evidence you find with you in all the rooms, basically. And having two of us like trying to find clues, yeah, figure out locks and all that, and also trying to keep control of all the evidence was pretty hard. So you I would say you need at least three people so that one person can be in charge of the evidence and keeping it straight, and like you're you have to write things down. And their like dry erase pen thing was out of ink. So we were trying so hard to write it down. Um, and then the other, at least other two people to like actually be getting the clues and stuff. There were some like clutch pulls that each of us had on like opening a lock or something, yeah. But we kind of there were just a few things that were like so we spent like an extra five to seven minutes on that we were like, oh my gosh, that was such a rookie mistake.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

Cause like I so this is not giving anything away. One of you, you choose someone to be the lead detective on the case. And I was confused on my name. Like the detective has a name. Okay, but then there's also like another detective like character part of the story, part of the story, and I was confused on which one I was.

SPEAKER_00

Why?

SPEAKER_03

I don't know.

SPEAKER_00

Why couldn't they just make it so many Detective Allison to like keep it easy?

SPEAKER_03

Well, because it's part of it's part of the thing. Oh so and there was so many names, because the only other thing I'll give away is you're in a hotel. So there's like hotel guests, there's suspects, there's there's so many names.

SPEAKER_00

Were there actors in this one? No. We need to do Minotaur again.

SPEAKER_01

No. What?

SPEAKER_00

There's a sequel to it.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, okay. I was thinking we know what to do.

SPEAKER_00

Who was that? You, me, Chloe, Dylan, Haley. No, Chloe didn't do it.

SPEAKER_03

She was scared.

SPEAKER_00

Um was it just us?

SPEAKER_03

No, no, no, no, no. There had to be more than that.

SPEAKER_00

No, I think it was just you, me, Dylan.

SPEAKER_03

Did Megan? Megan.

SPEAKER_00

Megan.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah. Oh, you said that?

SPEAKER_00

Because we were the cool five some and dilly dills.

SPEAKER_03

Oh, there you go.

SPEAKER_00

But then Chloe didn't do it. Yeah, five of us did. Anyway.

SPEAKER_03

I do I do suggest that you do that one. You should get it, you should get some people together. But also, they said that was the second hardest there. The first hardest is a seven deadly sins themed.

SPEAKER_00

So hold, hold, hold. You didn't finish in time.

SPEAKER_03

No, we did. We just had to use more hints than you wanted to. You know?

SPEAKER_00

Fair.

SPEAKER_03

But it was kind of one where they don't tell you, they just like type on the screen. So you kind of like if you're not in that room, you don't have to do it. One of those.

SPEAKER_00

Wait, what was the company?

SPEAKER_03

Escapology.

SPEAKER_00

Escapology. Yeah. And you didn't have to do it alone? Or you were able to do it alone?

SPEAKER_03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

They changed the rules then. They used no, no. Escapology is the same one in Northridge. Yeah, that we did with Caitlin. So that was the last one I've done.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah. Anyway.

SPEAKER_00

If Megan comes in October, then we'll do Titanic with her. If she doesn't, we're doing Titanic.

SPEAKER_01

Okay.

SPEAKER_00

Within the next month.

SPEAKER_01

Okay.

SPEAKER_00

Or else.

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Okay.

SPEAKER_00

Actually, wait, Caitlin is here the first week of September.

SPEAKER_03

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_00

Guess we gotta do one.

SPEAKER_03

We can just do we there's a lot to do. Because now I feel like it's been a couple years that they've re-updated things.

SPEAKER_00

Remember the one I love across from the ramen place? They added a new one.

SPEAKER_03

Amazing. And amazing.

SPEAKER_00

Anyways.

SPEAKER_03

Is she gonna be here? I'll cut this. Some of this can be cut out. So yes.

SPEAKER_00

You went on a date night. Did you get food at the chocolate factory afterward?

SPEAKER_03

No, because everything was closed.

CityWalk Closes Early And TSA

SPEAKER_03

All the restaurants close at nine.

SPEAKER_00

It is weird. I don't get it. With the theme park attached.

SPEAKER_03

That's my problem with Universal City Walk.

SPEAKER_00

Tell them.

SPEAKER_03

Everything, the stores close at 10.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

The restaurants close at nine.

SPEAKER_00

Crazy.

SPEAKER_03

So if you go like Disney is not like that, right? Like all those stores and restaurants are open until at least midnight, right?

SPEAKER_00

You can get a pretzel and a churro well into the night.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, but also, are the restaurants open then?

SPEAKER_00

That's what I mean. Yes.

SPEAKER_03

Well, because the pretzels are on a street vendor.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

I'm talking about restaurants.

SPEAKER_00

Okay, I actually can't speak to that. I don't know. I know Splitzville is, they're open till 2 a.m. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

Okay. So when you leave the park, if you leave at 10, 11 o'clock, whatever, you can still go to downtown Disney and have a night.

SPEAKER_00

You can.

SPEAKER_03

Universal is like no get out. Did you know that they've changed it? There is TSA there. Have you not been?

SPEAKER_00

No.

SPEAKER_03

So this is apparently a new thing. I think it is for when the Olympics are here. They're like starting to like make changes.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, interesting. Okay.

SPEAKER_03

So it doesn't matter if you're going to the park or if you're going to City Walk, you have to go through full TSA. Like you, they have the scanners, you have to walk through the thing. You have to put your all your bags in a on the belt to go through the like TSA scanner.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. Oh, that is wild.

SPEAKER_03

And they've like redirected, you don't just like park and walk through the same way you used to to City Walk. They direct you to the TSA. So it's like very confusing now. When you when you go there, you're gonna be like, oh, I used to walk through here, closed off.

SPEAKER_00

Wild.

SPEAKER_03

Which is like fine, but it is jarring.

SPEAKER_00

It's not built for that.

SPEAKER_03

So like so, yeah. When you leave Universal, if you leave it, the part closes, I don't know, 10 or 11, you you're just like, you gotta go. Like you can't have any fun. And if you go to the movie theater, like that's what happened last weekend. We was saw a movie and then we got out and we were like walking and all the stores were closing, and we were like, well, what is the point anymore? Yeah. Of City Walk.

SPEAKER_00

I don't get it.

SPEAKER_03

There used to be bars, like actual like clubs.

SPEAKER_00

Oh man, I spent many a night at Saddle Ranch at City Walk.

SPEAKER_03

And How at the Moon.

SPEAKER_00

And How at the Moon. Doodling Piano Bar.

SPEAKER_03

I love Howl at

Burbank Airport Glow Up

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the Moon.

SPEAKER_00

In other California news, have you seen the new Burbank Airport?

SPEAKER_03

I've seen renderings.

SPEAKER_00

No, it's gonna open in October. They're now showing full video walkthroughs. It's massive.

SPEAKER_03

Oh, I haven't flown out of there in so long because I moved on the west side.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, you're closer to LAX now.

SPEAKER_03

I'm kind of in the middle.

SPEAKER_00

That's true. But anyway, it looks gorgeous, and I just wonder if it's now gonna become like a hellhole. I mean, regardless, it's closer to get to.

SPEAKER_03

I mean, do you think people are gonna go there just because it's nicer? I think they're still gonna choose.

SPEAKER_00

So I think more flights will be coming out.

SPEAKER_03

Oh, that's fair. But I think people are still gonna choose. No one that lives in Culver City is gonna choose to drive to Burbank.

SPEAKER_00

Good point. And it isn't international, I don't think.

SPEAKER_03

No way.

SPEAKER_00

There's no way.

SPEAKER_03

No, they're still gonna have connecting.

SPEAKER_00

But baggage claim is now indoors.

SPEAKER_03

Nice.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, I'm excited to see it. Wait, October?

SPEAKER_00

It opens to the public in October.

SPEAKER_03

Oh, nah.

SPEAKER_00

Nah.

SPEAKER_03

I don't think I if unless it opens October 1st, I don't think I can fly out of there when I leave. Okay. Well, that's all for California Corps.

SPEAKER_00

California Corner.

SPEAKER_03

Niche, California. That's really it.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

I've just been working. I'm going to Vegas this weekend to see Backstreet Boys. At Sphere. Not the sphere. I know. I don't like that. Sphere. Um staying at the Venetian.

SPEAKER_03

I will say the sphere, and I don't care what people say.

SPEAKER_00

So will I.

SPEAKER_03

Oh, the Venetian. Nice.

SPEAKER_00

Me and Boris.

SPEAKER_03

Are you going to go up in the thing, like I told you, with the unlimited drinks?

SPEAKER_00

I mean, probably not. We Chad and I get in at like I don't know, 2 p.m., I think on one. We get in at one. On uh Friday. His friend who booked the hotel, she doesn't get in until like six. So we can't even check into the hotel till then. So we're just gonna go leave our bags at the like the front desk and then just like get food somewhere and maybe hang around the casino.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Anyway, she gets in and then we're gonna get dinner that night, and then the next day her cousin, who is the fourth of our group, is flying in, and then we're just gonna hang by the pool until we go to the show, and then we fly out Sunday morning.

SPEAKER_03

I mean, you could try to get a last-minute ticket to the Empire Strips back.

SPEAKER_00

Hey, listen, I would love that.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Um, but other than that, I've just been editing. My life is just editing.

SPEAKER_03

I've been editing a good amount.

Jump5 Nostalgia And Youth Group Rules

SPEAKER_00

We just put out our latest mini music video, you guys.

SPEAKER_03

Oh yeah, just today.

SPEAKER_00

Very niche, very niche.

SPEAKER_03

It's a Christian group.

SPEAKER_00

Well, they were a crossover group. But here's the here's what I was thinking. Here's my justification. Because am I gonna use my friend's time to be in a video that I know isn't really gonna perform well? Yes. And here's why. Because the point of this content is to bring people joy. And sometimes we need to throw one in that brings ourselves joy. I let Allison and Angela pick a song before I'm gonna let them do it again. Don't worry, don't worry. But this was one where I was like, doesn't even matter if it only gets 10 views. I have to do this because this is one that like this group was part of what built the fantasy for me.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, I definitely think that there is a okay, so it's jump five. Oh wow, yeah. We just like the group is jump five. The group is jump five. There are definitely a lot of people out there that you know went to church camp and no jump five.

SPEAKER_00

The evangelical Christian through line of the jump five lore is large, but will they find the video? That is TBD.

SPEAKER_03

It's so interesting because my like youth group experience was so not like Christian pop. It was who is that? What's that one boy group?

SPEAKER_00

Reliant K.

SPEAKER_03

Reliant K.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. It was more punk.

SPEAKER_03

It was more punk rock by like punk slash rock.

SPEAKER_00

To be fair, so was mine. Jump five was like my parents answered. To trying to get me away from like secular pop music. And it worked.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah. I mean, they sound pretty close.

SPEAKER_00

Until the album that is my favorite, which is All the Time in the World, which is the song we did All I Can Do, is from that album. When that album came out, it was their second studio album. I was like I it was like I can remember how excited I was. And there was a store in Fort Wayne called the Anchor Room.

SPEAKER_01

Okay.

SPEAKER_00

Massive Christian book store that we would go to weekly.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

And I don't know if you remember this. Did you ever go to Christian bookstores?

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Okay. So they would have like booths where you could go practice your special music. Like it was like a sound booth.

SPEAKER_03

Oh, ours did not.

SPEAKER_00

Okay. My mom would go and just get a bunch of instrumental CDs and play them in the set in the sound booth and like practice singing them to see like which ones do I want to perform at church because performing at church. And so while she did that, we would just explore the day Jump Five album Jump Five's Jump Five's album came out. They were hosting an event. Not Jump Five, just like the anchor room was like celebrating the release of Jump Five's new album. There will be door busters. We're giving away a trampoline. Like there was all this shit. My mom, knowing how obsessed I was, was like so gracious and took me. We were the second ones there. And so I got entered into a drawing to win the trampoline. I did not win the trampoline, you guys, but I did get a full like jump five swag bag filled with stuff. Well, at the exit, they're selling posters. They're not selling, they're handing out posters. They're like adverts, but if you open it up all the way and turn it around, it's like the jump five poster.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_00

I grabbed a massive stack and hid it somehow from my mom or any of the workers. Yeah, yeah. Just like walked out of there with, I'm not kidding. I think I probably took a hundred.

SPEAKER_03

No way.

SPEAKER_00

Way. I would hand them out to people. I was like cutting out their faces and putting them in scrapbooks, but like having one on my wall. I still have a handful of those posters to this day.

SPEAKER_03

Oh my gosh, you should show them.

SPEAKER_00

No one cares but me. It's memorabilia for me at this point.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, of course. You should try to sell one.

SPEAKER_00

I should. That would be funny. And then um anyway, so that was they were huge. They were huge in my life. But the point of this was in that swag bag was like a little get to know us booklet that my mom read one one day.

SPEAKER_03

Oh no, what did it say?

SPEAKER_00

And then came to my door to let me know I was no longer allowed to listen to Jump 5. And I said, I was heartbroken, burst into tears.

SPEAKER_03

Why? What did they say?

SPEAKER_00

Every one of them mentioned that their favorite books are Harry Potter. And you do not need to be looking up to people who support witchcraft.

SPEAKER_04

Witchcraft.

SPEAKER_00

So I balled until I wrote, I wrote all of my thoughts and feelings down, and I asked my parents to have a meeting, and I told by the okay, just for context, you guys, I was 13. I was like, here are the reasons why I should still be allowed to listen to Jump 5. It was literally like, what else am I supposed to do? Listen to secular music like Britney Spears and InSync? Inside being like, I want to, but like when you compare them, yeah. I finally, whatever, I gave them all these reasons, and at the end of it, my mom goes, Okay.

SPEAKER_03

Work.

SPEAKER_00

It worked.

SPEAKER_03

Wow.

SPEAKER_00

So anyway, thank you.

SPEAKER_03

So how long did you go without?

SPEAKER_00

Oh my god, it couldn't have been more than a day. My life was centered around jump five. For from age like 12 to 15, I ate, slept, and breathed jump five. They were all I thought about. It was all I did. I went to their concert. I would have died.

SPEAKER_03

That was all you could do to think about them.

SPEAKER_00

Yes. Then when Libby left the group, I cried. I printed her headshot, I printed her exit letter, I laminated them together. I read it every night. Then they held auditions for a new fifth member, and I was practicing. I was did you audition? No, because you had to be able to tumble. And I could I couldn't tumble like they could.

SPEAKER_02

That is a pretty crazy thing.

SPEAKER_00

And then the girl that took that took Libby's place for name is Francesca. Here's some lore that means nothing to anyone. She replaced Libby for literally maybe like six months, but in that six months was when they got asked to do a song on the Lizzie McGuire movie soundtrack. And they did your shine and stuff, no matter who. And Francesca was featured on that song, the only song that she's on. She leaves the group.

SPEAKER_03

Did Libby come back?

SPEAKER_00

No, Libby was done. So it's just Brittany Brandon, Brittany Brandon, brother and sister, and then Leslie and Chris. And they continued on for two more albums. And then they did like a remix album and then a greatest hits album. And on the Greatest Hits album, they replaced Libby's parts in the song Doya with Britney. I did not like that. That was Libby's that was Libby's part from the beginning.

SPEAKER_01

Dang.

SPEAKER_00

Now we need to get off of Jump Five talk. Point is love it. Go watch it. It's a very fun video. It was. I'm just getting really I'm having a lot of fun with it.

SPEAKER_03

I'm so glad you are.

SPEAKER_00

Thank you.

SPEAKER_03

And it's very cute.

SPEAKER_00

It is very cute. Thanks for being here.

SPEAKER_03

Are they Swedish?

SPEAKER_00

No, they're from Nashville.

SPEAKER_03

Oh, dang it. That was gonna be a good segue for me.

SPEAKER_00

But you know what? They sound a lot like the other obsession of my life at that time, 18s, who are a Swedish pop group.

Wicker Trailer And The Woven Husband

SPEAKER_03

Okay, well, speaking of Swedish, Alexander Skarsgarden.

SPEAKER_00

Hot.

SPEAKER_03

Is he?

SPEAKER_00

Yes.

SPEAKER_03

Okay, I don't think he is in his real life. But are you aware of his new movie coming out called Wicker?

SPEAKER_00

Yes, and he becomes like a wicker human.

SPEAKER_03

Have you watched the trailer?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03

Oh, dang it. I was gonna blow your mind with this.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, I was my mind was blown when I watched it.

SPEAKER_03

I was like, well, if you guys don't know, it's pretty wild. I need you to pause right now. Pause. Pause us. I need you to go search.

SPEAKER_00

Search.

SPEAKER_03

Wicker movie.

SPEAKER_00

Look for it.

SPEAKER_03

Trailer.

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Yep.

SPEAKER_03

And then you're gonna watch that, and then you're gonna come back to us, okay? Okay.

SPEAKER_00

Okay, you're back.

SPEAKER_03

Everyone's back. This movie is wild.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, it is bizarre.

SPEAKER_03

Okay, so from the trailer, I think it's based on a book that I have not read. It seems like a smuddy.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03

There's a woman who is a I don't know what like what time period we're set in. It's old. Yeah. It's we're supposed to be in an older time.

SPEAKER_00

Feels like Robin Hood era. Whatever that is.

SPEAKER_03

Like we're definitely all we're living in. Yeah. It's in England, we're all like, we have to go fish, we have to get the fish to cook them. Or everyone's like making. Yeah, it's like the beginning of Beauty and the Beast.

SPEAKER_00

It's exactly what I was gonna say because for sure.

SPEAKER_03

Okay. So picture that. We have a woman who is the Queen of England. What is her name?

SPEAKER_00

Olivia in what?

SPEAKER_03

The Crown.

SPEAKER_00

And she also played the Queen in Everything. That movie where she's a lesbian queen and like gets diddled by Emma.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, her name's Olivia something, I think.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, she's British.

SPEAKER_03

She's British. She's an iconic British actress. So she is this like fisherman lady who I guess smells bad and she's like a spinster vibe. Like she's not married, no one's interested in dating her. She everyone makes the town makes fun of her for being single, which is wild. And she's had it. And she goes to Peter Dinklage, who is a basket maker.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

The town basket maker. Yeah. But like he's giving um Lemony's not Lemony Snicket. Who's um in what's the movie or what's the TV show with all of it? Yes. What character am I thinking of?

SPEAKER_00

Yes. Rumpel Stiltskin. Rumpel Stiltskin.

SPEAKER_03

He's giving Rumpel Stiltskin vibes where he's like a basket maker and creative, but he's magical. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Uh huh. And she goes to him one day and she says, I want you to make me a husband. And he says, be at the chapel in a month, I guess, or something. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

And he weaves her a man.

SPEAKER_03

He weaves her a man out of wicker basket material. Yes. And it's Alexander Scarscard. Yes. And I will say he looks better to me as the basket than his real life. That is bullshit. He's a little like skinny and small for me.

SPEAKER_00

You're thinking of him as cut as the it clown. And that's not fair.

SPEAKER_03

I don't know. I looked up because I didn't remember. I don't know what any of I didn't know what any of them looked like.

SPEAKER_00

Did you watch True Blood?

SPEAKER_03

I didn't.

SPEAKER_00

That new movie Pillion, the gay movie? No. Okay.

SPEAKER_03

I don't watch movies.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, what?

SPEAKER_03

But I went and looked him up and I was like, this is not what I pictured him. I pictured him looking like the basket, just in person form. They made him jacked as this basket.

SPEAKER_00

They did. As this basket. He's a jacked basket.

SPEAKER_03

He's a jacked basket. So he shows, she shows up and they wed. And he's the perfect man. He's like tending to her needs. Well, I'm not there yet. Sorry. But he's like, he's tending to her needs. I love you. He's tending to her needs. He's like the soft, like man that is very like attentive that a woman yearns for, if you will.

SPEAKER_00

And they don't seem to be hiding their relationship from the trailer.

SPEAKER_03

And then it gets smuddy, and she is getting worked out by this basket man.

SPEAKER_04

By this jacked basket.

SPEAKER_03

Like there is like a moment where you can you know that he's rising to the occasion and you can hear it happen as basket material.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03

And then she is like, I mean, they are doing it here, there, and everywhere. And she then she's walking through the town like woo, and all the women are now jealous of her, and they're like, and and they're just like everyone knows it's he's a basket.

SPEAKER_00

He's a wicker man.

SPEAKER_03

He's a wicker man.

SPEAKER_00

What do you think?

SPEAKER_03

I mean everyone's like, you guys asked for you asked for original stories. What it is, I think it's based on the book like you said, but still, like we're not this is not a remake. You asked for an original story and you got it.

SPEAKER_00

Anatomically.

SPEAKER_03

And the girls are gagging, they're like horned up for this.

SPEAKER_00

This like a 50 sh 50 shades of basket.

SPEAKER_03

Yes, like I I'm reading all these comments because now I'm getting this is part of my algorithm.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

Now I'm getting all these videos of people talking about the trailer, and then I go to the comments and everyone's like, I'm getting tickets.

SPEAKER_00

Like I am can't wait to see the popcorn bucket.

SPEAKER_03

So yeah. And also, ladies, don't do that.

SPEAKER_00

And don't put a basket inside of you. It will scratch you up.

SPEAKER_03

A basket. I saw someone post like Hobby Lobby or something has like a a witch hat made out of wicker basket material. And it's a cone shape.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

And someone was like, Don't sit on this. Don't I don't want to. There's like ER nurses being like, I please don't show up.

SPEAKER_00

Don't put this inside of you.

SPEAKER_03

Inside of you.

SPEAKER_00

Oh my god.

SPEAKER_03

It's crazy.

SPEAKER_00

Well, I'm not gonna lie, I will be seeing it.

SPEAKER_03

No, like dead ass. I don't want to see it. But it's partially like I'm just like, what is happening?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

And it's like described as a vulgar show. Like in the credits, it's like vulgar comedy, horny.

SPEAKER_00

Like it's like all of that, all the above.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah. So I really needed to talk about that.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, it's important.

SPEAKER_03

I am a little sad I couldn't show you. I couldn't watch your reaction.

SPEAKER_00

Well, yeah, I was like, what am I looking at? I I was on TikTok when I saw it and it was I didn't have sound on. So I just stopped and I was like, oh, I need to hear what is happening here.

SPEAKER_03

She's getting thrown around by that man.

SPEAKER_00

That jacked basket, as you said.

SPEAKER_02

Jacked basket. Well, there's no way to come out of that.

SPEAKER_00

No. What else is happening on the algorithm?

Doll Mom TikTok And Titanic Reenactment

SPEAKER_00

Well, let me tell you.

SPEAKER_03

Please.

SPEAKER_00

I don't shame anyone in what they're doing. Everyone, do whatever makes you happy. If you choose to do what makes you happy, then film it and put it on the internet for people to see. It does open you up, as you know, as a content creator. It does open you up to comments. And again, I know that people do things for a lot of different reasons. Trauma responses, passions they're not ashamed of.

SPEAKER_03

I can't wait to talk about trauma responses.

SPEAKER_00

Way to heal. I believe this one is maybe of something related to trauma, probably, but there is a whole site of TikTok I ended up on that is just doll moms. And it is women who, and maybe men, I haven't seen any yet, who raise the baby born, the the the real born. Real born. Those baby dolls that look Yeah, I don't know what they're called, but yeah. They're incredibly expensive. They're really lifelike, and they make them from actual feed, like born with umbilical cord. Yes, all the way through like taught like young kid. I don't know how old, but this woman that I was on and then sent to you was I think she she has like six or seven, and there's a set of twins that are I want to say six, so she has like six-year-olds, but it's not so much the act of like I I understand a lot of women who experience child loss or something, this is helpful for them, and that is why this company even happened, I think, was for that. Love, I think that that's great. It's I'm not even flabbergasted at the the motions, it's the amount of money she's spending on these rooms, are decked out full crib, full formula, tons of bottles, clothes galore, true one video I was on, she and her husband, she's married. We're at a hotel. She had a pack and play set up with a whole sleeping baby situation.

SPEAKER_03

Does he participate? No. Or is he just like, I I love you?

SPEAKER_00

I only saw him in that one video, and it's just because he was laying next to her in bed and it was like half of his head. Um it obviously, like, again, people do whatever you want. It's just like when it's things like this when they happen, and I see them, I'm like, just when I thought I'd seen it all.

SPEAKER_03

Well, here's the thing over the years, I've seen videos like this pop up.

SPEAKER_00

Oh.

SPEAKER_03

But not like the video that you showed me.

SPEAKER_04

Okay.

SPEAKER_03

I've seen women either just like carrying it in their arms or carrying it like in one of those. Yeah, like a baby carrier. And and just kind of like existing, like that they have this newborn. And I do think those people that I saw, it was like they lost a child, and it's it's kind of like a coping mechanism for them. They were not this this person is role-playing, is role-playing, and having the babies or the ch toddler age, like child age, they're the cameras like on them, yeah, but like you can't like it. Looks like a TV show. Yes, yes, yes. And it's giving Chucky, like it makes me feel like the way a scary movie feels with like she gives them voices, yeah, and the way that they're moving is like giving like a sinister horror movie with a doll, and that makes me uncomfortable. And yes, that's why I don't like the particular video you sent me.

SPEAKER_00

It's that she does a lot of that, and she does have kind of a scary voice. So, like when she will like you'll be sh you'll see her like making a bottle be like, stop fighting over there, and it cuts to a close-up of a doll.

SPEAKER_01

And she's like, Yeah, it's a lot.

SPEAKER_03

It's so cool. Yeah, so I don't mean to I'm not making fun of her for whatever reason she's doing this, but I am scared of the way that it's being filmed.

SPEAKER_00

Yes, and I will say too, no shame, whatever, like do your thing. But it is like I was just I couldn't, I was like, I really thought I'd seen it all on TikTok.

SPEAKER_03

No, and there's gonna be something else that's gonna change. Did you watch that video I sent you of the the family um portraying the Titanic last scene? And they're all participating.

SPEAKER_00

Couldn't believe it. So good. Amazing. Sent it or watched it with boyfriend. I was just like, this is commitment, and like the lines were to a T correct.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, it was really good. They were in a lake and they were it was like a family of like 10, and they were all portraying the ending scene of Rose getting rescued. Rose getting rescued, yeah. And they're they're all floating, eyes closed, like half the ones that are the background actors, they have committed to floating dead, and then she they have a whistle somehow, so good, and it's her voice.

SPEAKER_00

She blows it the exact same, yeah.

SPEAKER_03

She blew it the same, her like jack, jack was exactly the same way. I was like, wow.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, they nailed it. It was so good. Millions of views, well deserved.

SPEAKER_03

Yes. Well, okay, do you want to go?

Ariana Grande And Body Talk Boundaries

SPEAKER_03

Both things I have to say are kind of downer characters.

SPEAKER_00

All right.

SPEAKER_03

Well, if you Do you want Ariana or do you want murders?

SPEAKER_00

Let's do Ariana because I'm a I think I know what's going on there.

SPEAKER_03

Okay, so the the headline is that Ariana has an Ariana Grande, if you will, has announced that she is taking a setback from the limelight when her tour ends. She was supposed to be a part of a show in the West End. She is pulled out of that.

SPEAKER_00

Sundays in the Park with George.

SPEAKER_03

Sure. I'm unaware of this show.

SPEAKER_00

Okay.

SPEAKER_03

Is it a play? Is it a musical? Okay. So, but in her show last night, whatever, I don't know. I think it was Chicago. She made a four-minute speech about it. Where so, like the let me rewind a little bit.

SPEAKER_00

I like your black French tips.

SPEAKER_03

Thank you. These are press-ons, which another algorithm thing is like I've learned about contact dermatitis now.

SPEAKER_00

Oh no.

SPEAKER_03

And that has really triggered my hypochondria because people were being like, I got contact dermatitis from press on nails. Press on nail glue.

SPEAKER_00

Okay, but you're clean.

SPEAKER_03

Is I don't get it.

SPEAKER_00

I don't either.

SPEAKER_03

Like what about it? Is it just an allergic reaction? But then it get apparently it never goes away.

SPEAKER_00

I just noticed you're not going to be able to do that. You have it for the rest of your life. I don't have ADD. I'm sorry. I actually don't know what you're talking about then.

SPEAKER_03

Okay. Well, I'll look into it.

SPEAKER_00

Sorry, you have to be exposed to that.

SPEAKER_03

Okay, so Ariana Grande. I don't have the initial, I don't know why. I don't have the initial thing, but she made a public thing that was like, I'm taking a step back. Then then last night in her show, she said, can we get a little real tonight? Um the announcement that was made yesterday was not a reactive or impulsive thing. It had been blown out of proportion. So the narrative is the public has been grow has been growing concerned about her body. And as someone who doesn't like their body to be talked about online, like I totally understand. But in either way, like because people think you're too big, or if people think you're too small, like I know it's hard to see that anyway.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

But there's been a visible change in her body and her losing weight, even from last year when people said they were concerned. When she they were on the Wicked Press tour, she was very small, and there was people talking about it then. And she made a video, like a TikTok or like a just like selfie video that was also asking people to stop talking about her body. And the difference from that video to what she looks like now is significant. Like she's very like small then, and her like chest and face like are all skinny. But now it's like you can see every bone in her chest, her like the top of her shoulder. And people are kind of like, I know we're not supposed to be arm, yeah, even in and like her like oh yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00

The stuff in her head temples. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03

Everyone's like, I know we're not supposed to talk about women's bodies, but like at what point is it like, hey, this is really unhealthy for young women to see. Like it feels like you really need help, like you're really not in good health. And the narrative she keeps being like, I'm in good, I'm healthy, I'm healthy. And when people say Athletic, athletic, and when people are like referring to her body back when she was kind of like, what sweetener time and she was on and break obviously, she was younger, like break free when that song was out. Like she is, you can tell she is weighs or she's like has more like body fat on her than. And she's like, the the body that you're referring to, like I was the most unhealthy I've ever been. And I don't know what that means. Maybe she's like, you know, I was drinking a lot, and I was doing drugs or whatever, and sure that, yeah, that would be like unhealthy, but she's doesn't ever acknowledge that she's as she's wasting away, basically. And so people are kind of just kind of getting over her, like annoyed at it, because it's like you don't ever acknowledge that like you are significantly changing in like a not great way, and she is always just like, I I'm fine, I'm fine, I'm healthy, I'm healthy, and blah blah blah. And so I think people are just kind of getting over it. And so she said that's what I think it's interesting. She said this was not a reactive or impulsive thing because it seems to people that it is that because it's like the backlash she's getting is becoming overwhelming. That it's like, okay, I need to go away. And maybe she's going to recovery. Maybe she's going to a recovery center. Like that would be really if if she needs it, that's great. Um, and she said it's something that I decided to plan, claiming she made. Her thoughtful and empowering decision quietly a long time ago. I guess like the West End could corroborate that. Like, when did she tell them that she was bowing out? I don't know. But I don't know. It's a hard subject because again, I don't like when people talk about me, my body.

SPEAKER_04

Right.

SPEAKER_03

But it it brings up a bigger question of like, is there is there a time where then it becomes like dire to talk about it? And to how do you tell like how do you get someone to acknowledge that they're unhealthy? Because Taylor Swift said that, right?

SPEAKER_00

Like she was um she acknowledged when she was like an unhealthy weight.

SPEAKER_03

Eating she said she had an eating disorder when she was on one of her tours, right? And then she recovered from that and then she was able to talk about it. So I think at at some point, hopefully Ariana can if that is what or maybe she has a medical condition that like is causing her to lose weight. Maybe she's on a medication, but like because she's not saying anything, I think then people feel like it's leaning towards eating disorder, and then that is it's hard for young uh kids to watch someone and have that be the standard that they want to meet. Like I want to look like her. And I don't know. It's a really hard, I'm finding it hard to speak about right now because it is sensitive and it is like you don't ever want to trigger people or hurt people's feelings, but like at some point you do need the people that you're seeing on your screens, like you don't want to see them like that and have them act like it's normal, and then you start feeling like, well, if I don't look like that, am I not normal? And then you it starts a whole spiral like within that person.

SPEAKER_00

I don't know.

SPEAKER_03

I don't know.

SPEAKER_00

I don't either. Well, I hope the best for her. Yeah, time away is good regardless. I think she should non-stop, like she went right from wicked to wicked to tour, breakups.

SPEAKER_03

Oh my god, yeah, it's like definitely understandable that mentally all that takes a toll on you. Yeah, so maybe she'll go to a nice spa.

SPEAKER_00

She ne she deserves some time off with her and her husband. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

Wait, no, no, they broke up too. And he might be going back to his ex.

SPEAKER_00

Oh my god. Thank you, next.

SPEAKER_03

Okay, so the

Idaho Murders Recap And Conspiracy Spiral

SPEAKER_03

other thing I had to talk about was I am really in the trenches on a spiral of the Idaho murders. The Idaho Foundation.

SPEAKER_00

Are you watching the show?

SPEAKER_03

Yes, so I started the documentary. I have been, ever since this happened, I have been watching videos, watch watching, listening to podcasts of people talk about it. Like I've been really interested in it. And then the trial happened and Brian Koberger was convicted. He um said that he did it. What is that word I'm trying to think of? He confessed. He confessed, and then he was sentenced to prison or whatever. I think he got a plea deal because he confessed.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

And then over the years, this happened like four years ago, I think, three years ago, four.

SPEAKER_00

No.

SPEAKER_03

It's been a while. Has it? Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Is it just been that?

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, it was just a long process. Are you sure it wasn't just last year?

unknown

No. Okay.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah. And so, like, since that's happened, like a lot of people are people love to be internet sluice and they love to feel like they got a degree in you know armchair experts. Yeah. So there's been a lot, a lot of conspiracies that have come out of it, mainly on the two girls that survived. Okay. And it's a hard thing to talk about again because it's like trauma response, like we said earlier, you don't want to like take someone's trauma response and turn it around on them. Like the survivors don't deserve that. But but it is interesting that okay, let me rewind. If you guys don't know, I do that. I start talking and then I don't tell everyone what's happening.

SPEAKER_00

Context incoming.

SPEAKER_03

So this case happened at the University of Idaho. Or yeah, some a college in Idaho. And there is a group of four girls that live together in this big house, and one of the girls' boyfriends basically lived there. He was just there all the time. So one night at like 4 a.m., uh, a person comes in. Right now, Brian Koberger was convicted, so it's him.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

He comes in to the top floor, which is the like kitchen floor, and there's a bedroom off the side. The girls had been out partying all night. Uh-huh. They come home, they're drunk. Two girls pass out on the same bed together, and the killer comes in, stabs them in their sleep. So they don't really have time to react or anything like that. Then the other girl, one of the other girls, had been in the kitchen because she had gotten DoorDash. She hears a commotion, sees someone, runs down the stairs to her bedroom where her boyfriend is asleep in the bed. And the killer runs after her. There's a struggle that happens. And then in the bedroom, he kills her and her boyfriend.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

One of the surviving girls, uh, bedroom is on the second floor. She says she hears the commotion. She opens her door as he's chasing the one girl down. They see each other.

SPEAKER_00

So he knows she knows they've he's seen her.

SPEAKER_03

Yes. She closes her door, locks it. And the other roommate that survived is on the bottom floor. There's some communication back and forth. The girl on the second floor, her name is Dylan. She has she tries to call the other girls and they don't pick up. She texts the other surviving girl, her name is Bethany. They're like, What's going on? I don't know, I'm scared. Things like that. Bethany's like, Come down to my room, run down here. She says she says, run. So Beth Dylan does that. She says that she can see in Xana in her boyfriend's room. And she says she can see her on the floor, and she can tell that she's in her underwear. So she can see enough that she can see that, but she thinks she just is drunk, passed out on the floor. Mind you, she said she heard this commotion. She saw a random man in a ski mask. In a ski mask. Um, and so she runs down to the bottom floor to Bethany's room. This is like 4 30 in the morning. They lock the door, they do not call the police for eight hours. This is where people are pretty suspicious because there's activity on their phone happening. They're scrolling Instagram, they're on TikTok, they're making Venmo payments. Eight hours later, they call a friend from across the street, a guy, and they're like, Hey, something weird happened last night. Could you come over and just check the house with us so that we have like a guy here? He comes over, he walks upstairs, he sees the two girls.

SPEAKER_00

Blood.

SPEAKER_03

No, the girl and the guy there, because they're on the second floor. And he's like, You got you guys don't want to come in here. We need to call the police. The phone call to the police is like, our friend isn't responding. We think she's passed out, but she's not waking up.

SPEAKER_00

But the guy saw that there was blood?

SPEAKER_03

Yes. So then his story is he didn't want, they didn't see, they didn't actually see the body.

SPEAKER_04

Okay.

SPEAKER_03

So he's like, I'm just I was trying to be as conspicuous as possible so that they didn't know exactly what happened in Freak Out. And he was like, I was just trying to get the police over here so they weren't traumatized by seeing because that girl uh was stabbed 67 times. So there's people are suspicious because it's like if you could see enough in her room that you could tell that she was in her underwear, that means there was enough light for you to see that. How could you not see her in a pool of blood basically? So I'm just consumed by this documentary is kind of like no new information, which is kind of like okay. Yeah, and it's a lot of the police, um from their perspective of when they showed up and their process and everything, all that. Um, I've only watched the first episode, but now my algorith algorithm is back on the conspiracy theorist.

SPEAKER_00

Which what's like a top conspiracy?

SPEAKER_03

That the two survivors were in on it with Brian, or at least Dylan. They're the most suspicious of Dylan, it seems, because she was the newest person to move into the house and she wasn't as close as with the other girls.

SPEAKER_04

Okay.

SPEAKER_03

Um, and there was some cleaning up that happened in the house.

SPEAKER_00

And it's but then why wouldn't Brian bring someone down with him?

SPEAKER_03

Well, the newest thing is that he is trying to do that. He this week he came, went to the prosecutors or whatever, and he was like, I actually changed my mind. I was coerced into pleading guilty, and I have some things to say, and I have some information that you guys are gonna want to hear, and I want to retrial.

SPEAKER_00

Because maybe this is just too broad of a question, but like, did Dylan have beef with any of these people that it would make sense that she'd want them dead?

SPEAKER_03

So the only thing I've heard which is all very alleged, so alleged, you guys. All alleged is like could definitely be someone just making up a theory on their own. Sure. There might be some alleged drug-related things with one of the girls and one of the girls and her mom or something. I don't know. There's something drug, possibly drug related and money related. Okay. I don't know. It is like, on one hand, I want it to be as straightforward. Brian Kober did it alone.

SPEAKER_00

The girls were what was his motivation?

SPEAKER_03

He was a psycho that was in school for some sort of law enforcement thing, but he was like obsessed with serial killers. Like he did a they he did some project where he went and interviewed serial killers and he asked them like a bunch of crazy questions. Like he it's you idolize them. Yeah, like his whole when when they were doing the trial, it was like he for some reason one of the girls he seemed to be really interested in. And he he they have so many videos of him circling the house, like in his car, like staking it out. Where are they? Like different, not just one night, like multiple days, like he was everywhere, kind of like staking out the area and looking at him. So it I think everyone is like, he's involved, yeah. In whatever way, like whether someone else is involved, we do know that he what did it. Yeah, but the question is is was anyone else involved? So I'm very like it's morbid, but like I just like find it so interesting.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. The human psyche.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

So stay tuned. Yeah, I guess.

SPEAKER_03

I recommend checking it out if you guys don't know anything about the case more than what I just said. The documentaries on Netflix.

SPEAKER_00

Well, give it a watch.

SPEAKER_03

There might be one on Hulu, Hulu too. Um, okay, what's your A-list of

Christmas Movies And Practical Magic 2

SPEAKER_03

the week?

SPEAKER_00

My A-list of the week is a little delayed because we're in August, but this is technically something people do in July. But I was struck with the bug the other night because boyfriend was down. Uh okay, first of all, think what you will about AI. We're all served content. Are you ever getting served the like the AI content that's like Christmas morning in 1992?

SPEAKER_01

Yes.

SPEAKER_00

It's very ended up down that rabbit hole, and then it was it made me be like, why aren't we watching Christmas movies now? Christmas in July is a thing for a reason.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, did you do it?

SPEAKER_00

We are going to tonight. Thank you. So it is I I support Christmas in July, or in this case early August.

SPEAKER_01

What are you watching?

SPEAKER_00

I think it's gonna be Home Alone. My favorite favorite movie is one, two, three, The Holiday. I knew that. Yes, I knew that. It didn't give you time to think. Um, but to me, that's not really a Christmas film strictly. It's a year-round. It is what I like to put on repeatedly in the holiday season. Oh my god, what?

SPEAKER_03

Practical magic.

SPEAKER_00

Oh my god.

SPEAKER_03

It's coming out so soon.

SPEAKER_00

I know.

SPEAKER_03

Okay, sorry.

SPEAKER_00

And that is exciting. We get Practical Magic 2. We have Princess Diaries 3 in development or in production. I mean, everything is great in the movie Works for us right now. I can't wait. Um anyway, my A-list of the week is Christmas in July, so watch a Christmas movie. And I want to say this really quickly because I saw this interview. Because I was always like, why isn't Evan Rachel Wood in the sequel? We still don't know what the storyline is.

SPEAKER_01

Okay.

SPEAKER_00

Because the Maisie, whatever, from Game of Thrones and Joey King are the two girls in the new Practical Magic.

SPEAKER_03

Didn't know that. Never heard the casting for that.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, yeah. So it's but what I can't figure out is are they supposed to be Evan Rachel Wood and that other actress grown up? I don't think so because Evan Rachel Wood, you the kids would be Evan Rachel Wood's age, like 40.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

So it can't be that. And someone asked Evan Rachel Wood last week on the red carpet, like, how did you feel about that? She's like, was I sad? Yes. Because I, for like the nostalgia of it all, I would have loved to see where these characters went and to like have the opportunity. She's like, as a child actor, getting to be on that movie, the experience of working with Sandy and Nicole. Nicole was so amazing. They were so great to us that like I would have loved for little me to get to like go back as an adult and be like, this was such a magical experience. I'm so excited to get to do this full circle moment and to also see what had happened with our characters.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

She's like, but no hard feelings. Like, she she was really cool about it. She's like, I'm so excited, like, I'm happy for them. That's great. It is, I'm I'm a little sad, but I'm sure it'll be great.

SPEAKER_03

I feel like if it was her character, they would have done it. So it has to be. I agree.

SPEAKER_00

So it has to be two different characters.

SPEAKER_03

It sucks that like she couldn't even be background or anything. Like if it was like, look, your character is whatever, like not in it for whatever reason, but we would still love you to be a part of it in some way. Like, could they not have just put some like prosthetic nose on her and like put her in a background scene or like did they write those girls out of the whole show?

SPEAKER_00

Because to me, it's like when they do remakes or things like this, and like original actors don't come back, they do try to do a lot of times you'll see in movies, they'll do like a like a phone call and they'll be on like a FaceTime for 30 seconds. And it's like then we all get our fix of at least seeing them in it, knowing that they're still in the world. But why not that? Like if she was like, oh way with her sister. I don't know.

SPEAKER_01

She must have.

SPEAKER_00

Both of the kids. Remember, she had a little sister. Well, I feel like there's dead. I hope this isn't it, but I wonder if it's like a parallel universe thing. Because the ants are in it.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

Parallel universe.

SPEAKER_00

And so is the detective. He's in it.

SPEAKER_03

Hmm. I don't know. We're just gonna have to go watch.

SPEAKER_00

And we will. Okay, back to A-list. What's yours?

Tinted Moisturizer Fix And WPBL

SPEAKER_03

I actually have two. I have one that's a product. Okay. Because why'd you say oh like that?

SPEAKER_00

Oh, sometimes you can't even think of one, but now you have two. Okay.

SPEAKER_03

One of them is a product because sadly, my tinted moisturizer that I have used religiously has been discontinued. Oh, so I was very upset about that. That was the ColourPop tinted moisturizer.

SPEAKER_00

Bring it back.

SPEAKER_03

And what I liked about it, let me tell you, you didn't ask. I'm gonna tell you. I liked to take a thicker foundation. I was using the Makeup Revolution one. And I would do a little bit of that, and then I would do a squirt of the tinted moisturizer because it was a thinner consistency.

SPEAKER_04

Okay.

SPEAKER_03

And I liked to mix them together, and the consistency that that made on my face, gorgeous, I really enjoyed.

SPEAKER_04

Okay.

SPEAKER_03

Now I can't do that.

SPEAKER_04

I'm sorry.

SPEAKER_03

And it's so hot outside that, like for filming or whatever, or for live streams, I'm gonna wear like a heavier amount of makeup so that on camera my face looks even, whatever.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

But like in regular life, I don't want to put all that makeup on because it's hot and sweaty.

SPEAKER_04

Yes.

SPEAKER_03

So I was on the hunt for a new tinted moisturizer, and I splurged a little for the Tarte Color Correcting Serum. And I like it.

SPEAKER_00

Okay.

SPEAKER_03

I'm wearing it right now. Amazing. For one. It's the one like it's comes out white, and then you like rub it in and it matches your skin color.

SPEAKER_00

I had a men's one that's about once.

SPEAKER_03

I am enjoying it. So I want you to know that if your moist tinted moisturizing serum runs out and discontinues, that you should try that one.

SPEAKER_00

Tarte Beauty.

SPEAKER_03

Non-sponsored. Non-sponsored. My other one is Sports Corner.

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Oh.

SPEAKER_03

The Women's Professional Baseball League has started. Oh, yeah. Everyone, uh, this past weekend was opening day. I went bald. No. It was it's in Springfield, Illinois. But they're every game is in Springfield, Illinois right now because they don't have enough money to like travel travel. Okay. Um teams? Four.

SPEAKER_04

Okay.

SPEAKER_03

LA, New York, Boston, San Francisco are the teams. Obviously, I'm rooting for Los Angeles. The LA Queens.

SPEAKER_00

No fucking way.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

I love that.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, they're so cute. Okay, so um I literally balled. At the opening ceremony, they had like players, um, prominent baseball women's baseball players, and then they had a lady, Maybelle. She is 99 years old. She was in the original League of Their Own. Women's um All-American Girls Baseball League from a League of Their Own. Yeah. She played for the Rockford Peaches. Oh my gosh. She's 99. She's so cute. She's in a wheelchair right now because she hurt, she fell and like hurt something, and she hadn't to have a procedure done. So she is in a wheelchair, but she is so cute. She threw one of the first pitches. I mean, I am just crying, crying, crying from this. Like there's a couple other uh women players, but like she was from the original one.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

And so I highly recommend everyone. I don't know exactly when the games are played. You can go to the WPBL website. But um, I think you should support and watch a game. Women's Professional Baseball League.

SPEAKER_00

Thank you.

SPEAKER_03

And that's all.

SPEAKER_00

We support women's sports.

SPEAKER_03

We love women's sports. Well, take us home.

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