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We’re all over the map, starting with a heartfelt Maci Remembrance Day and ending with the exact kind of pop culture whiplash that makes our group chat feel like a full-time job. Along the way, we celebrate a Netflix milestone, unpack the weird corners of our algorithms, and get honest about the messy line between concern and intrusion.
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Alex Hinsky
Accents And A Party Lookalike
SPEAKER_00Okay, so last week I tried to do the episode with a British accent. Oh please don't. No.
SPEAKER_03What are you gonna do today actually? What did you think I was gonna say? South South African? South African? No, take scratch that. That wasn't good.
SPEAKER_00That was too hard.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Uh Todo. I could do an Australian accent. That's a little Kiwi. That was a little Kiwi, I think.
SPEAKER_03Okay.
SPEAKER_00Accent is a little um New Zealand.
SPEAKER_03I thought New Zealand was Kiwi.
SPEAKER_00Yes. Alright, yes. Okay. Um it's very it feels to me, it feels like it's more bake in the throat, like that.
SPEAKER_03Have you taken a dialect class?
SPEAKER_00No. But I I'm dying to get put in a show or something where it's required because I think I would come, it would happen for me easily.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, I think a couple with someone. Yeah, you work with someone a couple times.
SPEAKER_00Like and he did rivalry, how he was able to get like the Russian accent.
SPEAKER_03Oh, right. I forgot he's not Russian.
SPEAKER_00No, he's such a gosh.
SPEAKER_03I went to a one of Caleb's parties and there was a man that looked exactly like that guy. And I walked in and I like out of the corner of my eye saw him.
SPEAKER_00Did we talk about this? Because I also saw him at the party I was at of Caleb's.
SPEAKER_03It was the same party.
SPEAKER_00The same no.
SPEAKER_03Yes. It was the same party. I just got there later than you.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, that was crazy. I was like, for a second, my god, I'm gonna meet him. And then it wasn't him. And I'm sure that guy really gets a lot of.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, yeah, yeah. He he has the haircut.
SPEAKER_03He should honestly just be like an impersonator and just get.
Macy Remembrance And Rescue Story
SPEAKER_03Well, everyone, today is Macy Remembrance Day.
SPEAKER_00This is the next it was the next thing I was gonna say. Today is Macy Remembrance Day where we remember Macy girl.
SPEAKER_03Yes, this is the day that she left us, and her birthday is in April.
SPEAKER_00Yes.
SPEAKER_03So that's a different time.
SPEAKER_00This is This is the day she crossed the Rainbow Bridge. Yes. And we think back on her fondly. We were just looking at some photos and videos.
SPEAKER_03Yeah. I was showing Stanley and then I was tearing up, and then I had to stop.
SPEAKER_00I miss her. I miss her. She was such a good dog. She was a lot of things. Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER_03Macy was my dog. If you if you're listening and you don't know that, she was Macy.
SPEAKER_00Um, yes. Pure bred Pomeranian, even though I did not believe it.
SPEAKER_03I know.
SPEAKER_00But you got the test.
SPEAKER_03I did. I got her off the side of the road in 2011, I believe.
SPEAKER_00That would make sense if she died when she was 12, yeah.
SPEAKER_03Yes. Um, I was driving past the uh just driving down the road. I was like on my lunch break, I think, from my work, and I saw this man holding up a dog underneath her little armpits, and she had a sign around her neck that said four sale, the number four.
SPEAKER_00How much?
SPEAKER_03And I skirted over.
SPEAKER_00How much?
SPEAKER_03Uh like $200.
SPEAKER_00That just is unbelievable for a purebred Pomeranian.
SPEAKER_03Well, like she should be more or less.
SPEAKER_00More.
SPEAKER_03Oh, I was I thought that was expensive. For like, I don't know you. You're on the side of the road. You could you could be anything. It was definitely like breeding.
SPEAKER_00Stanley was $100.
SPEAKER_03Uh on Craigslist.
SPEAKER_00On Craigslist at a gas station. But I'm just saying that for context, I have been looking because boyfriend is like pretty obsessed with Stanley. Yeah. So he wants a girl Stanley. And I was like, look, we can do try our best, but you there's no guarantee that this have different breeds in him too, right? Oh my god, he's he's an American pit bull after Shih Tzu. But predominantly Shih Tzu, and I think his attributes are more are mostly Shih Tzu.
SPEAKER_04Yeah.
SPEAKER_00So I'm looking for him too, right? Yes. I'm looking for Shih Tzus. And to get one, the not the best way, everyone. I was just curious. And I was looking if I could like find a Stanley. So I found like a website for Shih Tzu's of California, basically. All these different breeders. You can see the mom and the dad, and I I there's a bunch that look like him. They don't have the smushed face.
SPEAKER_03Like Stanley has the regular These are just like regular people that have other Shih Tsus that are like we're having them make babies and correct. Is that ethical or not?
SPEAKER_00No, but the cheapest one, 3,500.
SPEAKER_01Oh my gosh.
SPEAKER_00I no.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_03I I thought that I'm obviously I'm uneducated. Disclaimer, you don't know. I'm uneducated on this because I was 21 years old when I got Macy, and again, I just thought she was cute on the side of the road, and I was like I have to have it.
SPEAKER_00Honestly, you also didn't believe she was purebred. No. Because she was so tall.
SPEAKER_03I thought she had chihuahua. Yeah, for sure, for sure. Um but obviously there's a lot of dogs that needed to be need to be adopted.
SPEAKER_00And that's why I think it's quote unethical.
SPEAKER_03Okay. Like I I thought the biggest thing was like the puppy mills that they're like churning them out and like because they do a lot of inbreeding.
SPEAKER_00That's bad.
SPEAKER_03Which I'm pretty sure Macy was pretty inbred.
SPEAKER_00It's possible.
SPEAKER_03That's maybe why she was a little crazy. But yeah, I got to be able to do that. She was also very smart.
SPEAKER_00She was a pretty smart dog.
SPEAKER_03She was smart. She just, when I got her 23 and me back, and I got some family tree vibes, it was giving like her mom is also her sister. I don't know. Like something strange.
SPEAKER_00That's probably not possible, but it would be if the ma if it was the same dad.
SPEAKER_03Yeah. Like, but there also could be someone out there who just has half their dogs, they like accidentally got pregnant.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, and I'm gonna have I'm keeping an eye out because like he he does he's willing to pay, but not $3,500.
SPEAKER_03That is just someone trying to pay.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, that's just someone trying to it's a business I don't want to like contribute to. Yeah, um, anyway, back to Macy. So we miss Macy. She was I mean, she was in my life for I got her for two, I had her around for two years.
SPEAKER_03Seems like longer, but yeah.
SPEAKER_00I know because we she moved technically like three times. Oh my gosh, yeah.
SPEAKER_03I moved here in February of 2021, and my ma she didn't come out here until my mom brought her out in like June.
SPEAKER_00June, yeah. And then I met her in July when Alison was desperate to have someone take her out because she was going to Disneyland.
SPEAKER_03Oh yeah.
SPEAKER_00And I just met Allison once.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, but I knew that you would it's like I can do it. I trusted you, I guess.
SPEAKER_00And it was, I was like, I walk I remember I'll never forget because I walked into Caleb and Cameron's apartment in Noho at the time. I could not find her, remember? I was like, where is she?
SPEAKER_03She was behind something.
SPEAKER_00She was they had like a table with a bench seat. She was like up on that bench seat in the corner, just watching me, not making a noise.
SPEAKER_03I was like, Okay, you freak.
SPEAKER_00Anyway.
SPEAKER_03Um, yeah, and then we moved in together in like February. Like the next February is out there.
SPEAKER_00Correct, February 22.
SPEAKER_03There for six months, moved into the bungalow for a year, and then she was only with me for like another.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, because when we were moving out, it was like when she started to decline.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Anyway, but we remember we think back on her fondly, and there are so many cute and fun videos. And it reminded me today. I'm gonna I'm gonna show boyfriend because Stanley loved having a sister. Yeah, they ran around, they played he loved they she would play with him, and that just reminded me that like his quality of life would probably be greatly improved if he had a little friend.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, because he had a friend before. He had a friend isn't used to living with another dog.
SPEAKER_00Oh, he's yeah, this is like until he I moved out of living with you, he'd always had a dog. Yeah, always well it's time. I think so. I'm gonna talk about it.
SPEAKER_03Not time for me. I'm not ready yet.
SPEAKER_00No, you can just come. Allison's gonna stay and watch Stanley here this weekend and do laundry.
SPEAKER_03Wow. I can have Central Air for a weekend and I can do all my laundry. I'm excited.
SPEAKER_00And you can well, let's start the show.
SPEAKER_01Okay.
SPEAKER_02Welcome
Gay And Trying Lands On Netflix
SPEAKER_02back to the A-List Podcast.
SPEAKER_00I'm Allison, I'm Alex. Guys, my show Gay and Trying is on Netflix.
SPEAKER_01That's so exciting.
SPEAKER_00It's wild.
SPEAKER_01I didn't know this was happening.
SPEAKER_00So we were told maybe like a month ago, okay, hey, there's a deal being made between BuzzFeed and Netflix. Where like Netflix is doing this thing, like I don't know, you're seeing, I don't know if you've seen this, but like podcasts are now coming to Netflix. Yeah. So they're doing more with like internet content. They made a deal with Buzzfeed, and then it was mentioned, like, and and we think I think Antryan's going. I was like, I'll believe when I see it. Then Dylan told me like a week ago or two weeks ago, he was like, Yeah, it's actually happening. Like, we're slated to go. The four long form episodes from last year. And I was like, no way. It wasn't supposed to be till like August 7th. And then yesterday he sends me a screenshot that had it went up on August 1st.
SPEAKER_01How does the upload of that work?
SPEAKER_00Someone at Netflix worked with our DIT team.
SPEAKER_03So they just sent it to them.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, they did all of the uploading. And because now it has like a logo at the end that says like BuzzFeed Studios. That's new.
SPEAKER_03Um, yeah, everyone go watch.
SPEAKER_00But here's the funny part. If you searched in Netflix, gay were the first thing that pops up.
SPEAKER_03Oh my gosh, you are because it's in our title.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_03Wow.
SPEAKER_00So anyway, go to Netflix, search gay.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, I like I can't believe I didn't walk in and ask you that. I meant like I saw it yesterday and I like it. I was like, I need to talk about this, and then yeah, so it's on.
SPEAKER_00I don't know. This could lead to other things, I'm sure, but for now it's just cool to say I have a show on Netflix. It's pretty sweet. I don't know how long the deal is. I don't think it's not like in per in perpetuity. I want to say it's like maybe a two-year deal or something. So it'll at least live there for a couple of years.
SPEAKER_03And definitely people are searching gay.
SPEAKER_00Definitely people are searching gay.
SPEAKER_03Gays and straits.
SPEAKER_00That's true. So I didn't tell my parents.
SPEAKER_03Oh my gosh, do you think that they will do you think that they there's any way it would come across their desk? Like if they're on Netflix.
SPEAKER_00No.
unknownDang it.
SPEAKER_00I don't, but I do think how funny if bringing up Bobby was on Netflix. I have this Christian content and this gay content just living on Netflix. It isn't, but that would be funny.
SPEAKER_03Maybe you should try to sell it to them. You don't own it.
SPEAKER_00I have no rights to that movie whatsoever.
SPEAKER_03Well, anyway, what's going on with you?
Escape Room Date Night Debrief
SPEAKER_03Not a lot. I did an escape room last night.
SPEAKER_00Get out.
SPEAKER_03I know. I'm sorry.
SPEAKER_00Guys, I haven't done an escape room since the last time I did an escape room with you, and Caitlin was here like two years ago. Me.
SPEAKER_01Two years.
SPEAKER_00I over 150 escape rooms, and I haven't done one in two years. Yeah. Did you do the Titanic one?
SPEAKER_03No, I would never do that without you. That's insane. I um no, Josh and I were like, um, we haven't gone on a date. Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER_00Okay, you're forgiven.
SPEAKER_03He he suggested we do an escape room. So, you know, it's always hard to look up what have I done, what have I not done. I don't remember. I did have that app on my phone where I was like trying to mark them off. But I at some point stopped. So I don't know. But yeah. No, we I went to Universal Studios City Walk for the first time.
SPEAKER_00And that one that they have there is new.
SPEAKER_03Yeah. So I knew it was like, I know I've done none of these.
SPEAKER_00None of them, yeah.
SPEAKER_03So that was safe. So we did one.
SPEAKER_00But isn't that the one where you're are you put with strangers?
SPEAKER_03No, so I looked at it and I thought it was gonna do that because I just like clicked two and then we weren't.
SPEAKER_00It was a private game. Yeah.
SPEAKER_03Why did I think that that was and it was cheaper than everyone else? It was only $49 a person, and everywhere else is at least like $50 to $55.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. So how was it?
SPEAKER_03And and you didn't have to, we didn't have to buy a third ticket.
SPEAKER_00A lot of times it'll be like minimum three. Yeah. If you if it's just two of you, you have to pay for three.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_00How did it how'd it go?
SPEAKER_03It was hard because I am so out of practice.
SPEAKER_00Oh my god, yeah, we are out of practice.
SPEAKER_03And I missed a lot of things that I was like mad at myself for missing. But I will say this one. So the theme was like a crime scene. And so it was you were doing two things. What? Solving a crime. Solving the crime and you were escaping.
SPEAKER_0060 minutes?
SPEAKER_0360 minutes. So this one I will say, you you need at least three people for this because you have to like gather the evidence, and they give you this little like clipboard thing that they're like, you should like take all the evidence you find with you in all the rooms, basically. And having two of us like trying to find clues, yeah, figure out locks and all that, and also trying to keep control of all the evidence was pretty hard. So you I would say you need at least three people so that one person can be in charge of the evidence and keeping it straight, and like you're you have to write things down. And their like dry erase pen thing was out of ink. So we were trying so hard to write it down. Um, and then the other, at least other two people to like actually be getting the clues and stuff. There were some like clutch pulls that each of us had on like opening a lock or something, yeah. But we kind of there were just a few things that were like so we spent like an extra five to seven minutes on that we were like, oh my gosh, that was such a rookie mistake.
SPEAKER_04Yeah.
SPEAKER_03Cause like I so this is not giving anything away. One of you, you choose someone to be the lead detective on the case. And I was confused on my name. Like the detective has a name. Okay, but then there's also like another detective like character part of the story, part of the story, and I was confused on which one I was.
SPEAKER_00Why?
SPEAKER_03I don't know.
SPEAKER_00Why couldn't they just make it so many Detective Allison to like keep it easy?
SPEAKER_03Well, because it's part of it's part of the thing. Oh so and there was so many names, because the only other thing I'll give away is you're in a hotel. So there's like hotel guests, there's suspects, there's there's so many names.
SPEAKER_00Were there actors in this one? No. We need to do Minotaur again.
SPEAKER_01No. What?
SPEAKER_00There's a sequel to it.
SPEAKER_01Oh, okay. I was thinking we know what to do.
SPEAKER_00Who was that? You, me, Chloe, Dylan, Haley. No, Chloe didn't do it.
SPEAKER_03She was scared.
SPEAKER_00Um was it just us?
SPEAKER_03No, no, no, no, no. There had to be more than that.
SPEAKER_00No, I think it was just you, me, Dylan.
SPEAKER_03Did Megan? Megan.
SPEAKER_00Megan.
SPEAKER_03Yeah. Oh, you said that?
SPEAKER_00Because we were the cool five some and dilly dills.
SPEAKER_03Oh, there you go.
SPEAKER_00But then Chloe didn't do it. Yeah, five of us did. Anyway.
SPEAKER_03I do I do suggest that you do that one. You should get it, you should get some people together. But also, they said that was the second hardest there. The first hardest is a seven deadly sins themed.
SPEAKER_00So hold, hold, hold. You didn't finish in time.
SPEAKER_03No, we did. We just had to use more hints than you wanted to. You know?
SPEAKER_00Fair.
SPEAKER_03But it was kind of one where they don't tell you, they just like type on the screen. So you kind of like if you're not in that room, you don't have to do it. One of those.
SPEAKER_00Wait, what was the company?
SPEAKER_03Escapology.
SPEAKER_00Escapology. Yeah. And you didn't have to do it alone? Or you were able to do it alone?
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_00They changed the rules then. They used no, no. Escapology is the same one in Northridge. Yeah, that we did with Caitlin. So that was the last one I've done.
SPEAKER_03Yeah. Anyway.
SPEAKER_00If Megan comes in October, then we'll do Titanic with her. If she doesn't, we're doing Titanic.
SPEAKER_01Okay.
SPEAKER_00Within the next month.
SPEAKER_01Okay.
SPEAKER_00Or else.
unknownOkay.
SPEAKER_00Actually, wait, Caitlin is here the first week of September.
SPEAKER_03Oh, okay.
SPEAKER_00Guess we gotta do one.
SPEAKER_03We can just do we there's a lot to do. Because now I feel like it's been a couple years that they've re-updated things.
SPEAKER_00Remember the one I love across from the ramen place? They added a new one.
SPEAKER_03Amazing. And amazing.
SPEAKER_00Anyways.
SPEAKER_03Is she gonna be here? I'll cut this. Some of this can be cut out. So yes.
SPEAKER_00You went on a date night. Did you get food at the chocolate factory afterward?
SPEAKER_03No, because everything was closed.
CityWalk Closes Early And TSA
SPEAKER_03All the restaurants close at nine.
SPEAKER_00It is weird. I don't get it. With the theme park attached.
SPEAKER_03That's my problem with Universal City Walk.
SPEAKER_00Tell them.
SPEAKER_03Everything, the stores close at 10.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_03The restaurants close at nine.
SPEAKER_00Crazy.
SPEAKER_03So if you go like Disney is not like that, right? Like all those stores and restaurants are open until at least midnight, right?
SPEAKER_00You can get a pretzel and a churro well into the night.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, but also, are the restaurants open then?
SPEAKER_00That's what I mean. Yes.
SPEAKER_03Well, because the pretzels are on a street vendor.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_03I'm talking about restaurants.
SPEAKER_00Okay, I actually can't speak to that. I don't know. I know Splitzville is, they're open till 2 a.m. Yeah.
SPEAKER_03Okay. So when you leave the park, if you leave at 10, 11 o'clock, whatever, you can still go to downtown Disney and have a night.
SPEAKER_00You can.
SPEAKER_03Universal is like no get out. Did you know that they've changed it? There is TSA there. Have you not been?
SPEAKER_00No.
SPEAKER_03So this is apparently a new thing. I think it is for when the Olympics are here. They're like starting to like make changes.
SPEAKER_00Oh, interesting. Okay.
SPEAKER_03So it doesn't matter if you're going to the park or if you're going to City Walk, you have to go through full TSA. Like you, they have the scanners, you have to walk through the thing. You have to put your all your bags in a on the belt to go through the like TSA scanner.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. Oh, that is wild.
SPEAKER_03And they've like redirected, you don't just like park and walk through the same way you used to to City Walk. They direct you to the TSA. So it's like very confusing now. When you when you go there, you're gonna be like, oh, I used to walk through here, closed off.
SPEAKER_00Wild.
SPEAKER_03Which is like fine, but it is jarring.
SPEAKER_00It's not built for that.
SPEAKER_03So like so, yeah. When you leave Universal, if you leave it, the part closes, I don't know, 10 or 11, you you're just like, you gotta go. Like you can't have any fun. And if you go to the movie theater, like that's what happened last weekend. We was saw a movie and then we got out and we were like walking and all the stores were closing, and we were like, well, what is the point anymore? Yeah. Of City Walk.
SPEAKER_00I don't get it.
SPEAKER_03There used to be bars, like actual like clubs.
SPEAKER_00Oh man, I spent many a night at Saddle Ranch at City Walk.
SPEAKER_03And How at the Moon.
SPEAKER_00And How at the Moon. Doodling Piano Bar.
SPEAKER_03I love Howl at
Burbank Airport Glow Up
SPEAKER_03the Moon.
SPEAKER_00In other California news, have you seen the new Burbank Airport?
SPEAKER_03I've seen renderings.
SPEAKER_00No, it's gonna open in October. They're now showing full video walkthroughs. It's massive.
SPEAKER_03Oh, I haven't flown out of there in so long because I moved on the west side.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, you're closer to LAX now.
SPEAKER_03I'm kind of in the middle.
SPEAKER_00That's true. But anyway, it looks gorgeous, and I just wonder if it's now gonna become like a hellhole. I mean, regardless, it's closer to get to.
SPEAKER_03I mean, do you think people are gonna go there just because it's nicer? I think they're still gonna choose.
SPEAKER_00So I think more flights will be coming out.
SPEAKER_03Oh, that's fair. But I think people are still gonna choose. No one that lives in Culver City is gonna choose to drive to Burbank.
SPEAKER_00Good point. And it isn't international, I don't think.
SPEAKER_03No way.
SPEAKER_00There's no way.
SPEAKER_03No, they're still gonna have connecting.
SPEAKER_00But baggage claim is now indoors.
SPEAKER_03Nice.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, I'm excited to see it. Wait, October?
SPEAKER_00It opens to the public in October.
SPEAKER_03Oh, nah.
SPEAKER_00Nah.
SPEAKER_03I don't think I if unless it opens October 1st, I don't think I can fly out of there when I leave. Okay. Well, that's all for California Corps.
SPEAKER_00California Corner.
SPEAKER_03Niche, California. That's really it.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_00I've just been working. I'm going to Vegas this weekend to see Backstreet Boys. At Sphere. Not the sphere. I know. I don't like that. Sphere. Um staying at the Venetian.
SPEAKER_03I will say the sphere, and I don't care what people say.
SPEAKER_00So will I.
SPEAKER_03Oh, the Venetian. Nice.
SPEAKER_00Me and Boris.
SPEAKER_03Are you going to go up in the thing, like I told you, with the unlimited drinks?
SPEAKER_00I mean, probably not. We Chad and I get in at like I don't know, 2 p.m., I think on one. We get in at one. On uh Friday. His friend who booked the hotel, she doesn't get in until like six. So we can't even check into the hotel till then. So we're just gonna go leave our bags at the like the front desk and then just like get food somewhere and maybe hang around the casino.
SPEAKER_04Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Anyway, she gets in and then we're gonna get dinner that night, and then the next day her cousin, who is the fourth of our group, is flying in, and then we're just gonna hang by the pool until we go to the show, and then we fly out Sunday morning.
SPEAKER_03I mean, you could try to get a last-minute ticket to the Empire Strips back.
SPEAKER_00Hey, listen, I would love that.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Um, but other than that, I've just been editing. My life is just editing.
SPEAKER_03I've been editing a good amount.
Jump5 Nostalgia And Youth Group Rules
SPEAKER_00We just put out our latest mini music video, you guys.
SPEAKER_03Oh yeah, just today.
SPEAKER_00Very niche, very niche.
SPEAKER_03It's a Christian group.
SPEAKER_00Well, they were a crossover group. But here's the here's what I was thinking. Here's my justification. Because am I gonna use my friend's time to be in a video that I know isn't really gonna perform well? Yes. And here's why. Because the point of this content is to bring people joy. And sometimes we need to throw one in that brings ourselves joy. I let Allison and Angela pick a song before I'm gonna let them do it again. Don't worry, don't worry. But this was one where I was like, doesn't even matter if it only gets 10 views. I have to do this because this is one that like this group was part of what built the fantasy for me.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, I definitely think that there is a okay, so it's jump five. Oh wow, yeah. We just like the group is jump five. The group is jump five. There are definitely a lot of people out there that you know went to church camp and no jump five.
SPEAKER_00The evangelical Christian through line of the jump five lore is large, but will they find the video? That is TBD.
SPEAKER_03It's so interesting because my like youth group experience was so not like Christian pop. It was who is that? What's that one boy group?
SPEAKER_00Reliant K.
SPEAKER_03Reliant K.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. It was more punk.
SPEAKER_03It was more punk rock by like punk slash rock.
SPEAKER_00To be fair, so was mine. Jump five was like my parents answered. To trying to get me away from like secular pop music. And it worked.
SPEAKER_03Yeah. I mean, they sound pretty close.
SPEAKER_00Until the album that is my favorite, which is All the Time in the World, which is the song we did All I Can Do, is from that album. When that album came out, it was their second studio album. I was like I it was like I can remember how excited I was. And there was a store in Fort Wayne called the Anchor Room.
SPEAKER_01Okay.
SPEAKER_00Massive Christian book store that we would go to weekly.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_00And I don't know if you remember this. Did you ever go to Christian bookstores?
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Okay. So they would have like booths where you could go practice your special music. Like it was like a sound booth.
SPEAKER_03Oh, ours did not.
SPEAKER_00Okay. My mom would go and just get a bunch of instrumental CDs and play them in the set in the sound booth and like practice singing them to see like which ones do I want to perform at church because performing at church. And so while she did that, we would just explore the day Jump Five album Jump Five's Jump Five's album came out. They were hosting an event. Not Jump Five, just like the anchor room was like celebrating the release of Jump Five's new album. There will be door busters. We're giving away a trampoline. Like there was all this shit. My mom, knowing how obsessed I was, was like so gracious and took me. We were the second ones there. And so I got entered into a drawing to win the trampoline. I did not win the trampoline, you guys, but I did get a full like jump five swag bag filled with stuff. Well, at the exit, they're selling posters. They're not selling, they're handing out posters. They're like adverts, but if you open it up all the way and turn it around, it's like the jump five poster.
SPEAKER_01Oh, okay.
SPEAKER_00I grabbed a massive stack and hid it somehow from my mom or any of the workers. Yeah, yeah. Just like walked out of there with, I'm not kidding. I think I probably took a hundred.
SPEAKER_03No way.
SPEAKER_00Way. I would hand them out to people. I was like cutting out their faces and putting them in scrapbooks, but like having one on my wall. I still have a handful of those posters to this day.
SPEAKER_03Oh my gosh, you should show them.
SPEAKER_00No one cares but me. It's memorabilia for me at this point.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, of course. You should try to sell one.
SPEAKER_00I should. That would be funny. And then um anyway, so that was they were huge. They were huge in my life. But the point of this was in that swag bag was like a little get to know us booklet that my mom read one one day.
SPEAKER_03Oh no, what did it say?
SPEAKER_00And then came to my door to let me know I was no longer allowed to listen to Jump 5. And I said, I was heartbroken, burst into tears.
SPEAKER_03Why? What did they say?
SPEAKER_00Every one of them mentioned that their favorite books are Harry Potter. And you do not need to be looking up to people who support witchcraft.
SPEAKER_04Witchcraft.
SPEAKER_00So I balled until I wrote, I wrote all of my thoughts and feelings down, and I asked my parents to have a meeting, and I told by the okay, just for context, you guys, I was 13. I was like, here are the reasons why I should still be allowed to listen to Jump 5. It was literally like, what else am I supposed to do? Listen to secular music like Britney Spears and InSync? Inside being like, I want to, but like when you compare them, yeah. I finally, whatever, I gave them all these reasons, and at the end of it, my mom goes, Okay.
SPEAKER_03Work.
SPEAKER_00It worked.
SPEAKER_03Wow.
SPEAKER_00So anyway, thank you.
SPEAKER_03So how long did you go without?
SPEAKER_00Oh my god, it couldn't have been more than a day. My life was centered around jump five. For from age like 12 to 15, I ate, slept, and breathed jump five. They were all I thought about. It was all I did. I went to their concert. I would have died.
SPEAKER_03That was all you could do to think about them.
SPEAKER_00Yes. Then when Libby left the group, I cried. I printed her headshot, I printed her exit letter, I laminated them together. I read it every night. Then they held auditions for a new fifth member, and I was practicing. I was did you audition? No, because you had to be able to tumble. And I could I couldn't tumble like they could.
SPEAKER_02That is a pretty crazy thing.
SPEAKER_00And then the girl that took that took Libby's place for name is Francesca. Here's some lore that means nothing to anyone. She replaced Libby for literally maybe like six months, but in that six months was when they got asked to do a song on the Lizzie McGuire movie soundtrack. And they did your shine and stuff, no matter who. And Francesca was featured on that song, the only song that she's on. She leaves the group.
SPEAKER_03Did Libby come back?
SPEAKER_00No, Libby was done. So it's just Brittany Brandon, Brittany Brandon, brother and sister, and then Leslie and Chris. And they continued on for two more albums. And then they did like a remix album and then a greatest hits album. And on the Greatest Hits album, they replaced Libby's parts in the song Doya with Britney. I did not like that. That was Libby's that was Libby's part from the beginning.
SPEAKER_01Dang.
SPEAKER_00Now we need to get off of Jump Five talk. Point is love it. Go watch it. It's a very fun video. It was. I'm just getting really I'm having a lot of fun with it.
SPEAKER_03I'm so glad you are.
SPEAKER_00Thank you.
SPEAKER_03And it's very cute.
SPEAKER_00It is very cute. Thanks for being here.
SPEAKER_03Are they Swedish?
SPEAKER_00No, they're from Nashville.
SPEAKER_03Oh, dang it. That was gonna be a good segue for me.
SPEAKER_00But you know what? They sound a lot like the other obsession of my life at that time, 18s, who are a Swedish pop group.
Wicker Trailer And The Woven Husband
SPEAKER_03Okay, well, speaking of Swedish, Alexander Skarsgarden.
SPEAKER_00Hot.
SPEAKER_03Is he?
SPEAKER_00Yes.
SPEAKER_03Okay, I don't think he is in his real life. But are you aware of his new movie coming out called Wicker?
SPEAKER_00Yes, and he becomes like a wicker human.
SPEAKER_03Have you watched the trailer?
SPEAKER_00Yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_03Oh, dang it. I was gonna blow your mind with this.
SPEAKER_00Oh, I was my mind was blown when I watched it.
SPEAKER_03I was like, well, if you guys don't know, it's pretty wild. I need you to pause right now. Pause. Pause us. I need you to go search.
SPEAKER_00Search.
SPEAKER_03Wicker movie.
SPEAKER_00Look for it.
SPEAKER_03Trailer.
unknownYep.
SPEAKER_03And then you're gonna watch that, and then you're gonna come back to us, okay? Okay.
SPEAKER_00Okay, you're back.
SPEAKER_03Everyone's back. This movie is wild.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, it is bizarre.
SPEAKER_03Okay, so from the trailer, I think it's based on a book that I have not read. It seems like a smuddy.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_03There's a woman who is a I don't know what like what time period we're set in. It's old. Yeah. It's we're supposed to be in an older time.
SPEAKER_00Feels like Robin Hood era. Whatever that is.
SPEAKER_03Like we're definitely all we're living in. Yeah. It's in England, we're all like, we have to go fish, we have to get the fish to cook them. Or everyone's like making. Yeah, it's like the beginning of Beauty and the Beast.
SPEAKER_00It's exactly what I was gonna say because for sure.
SPEAKER_03Okay. So picture that. We have a woman who is the Queen of England. What is her name?
SPEAKER_00Olivia in what?
SPEAKER_03The Crown.
SPEAKER_00And she also played the Queen in Everything. That movie where she's a lesbian queen and like gets diddled by Emma.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, her name's Olivia something, I think.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, she's British.
SPEAKER_03She's British. She's an iconic British actress. So she is this like fisherman lady who I guess smells bad and she's like a spinster vibe. Like she's not married, no one's interested in dating her. She everyone makes the town makes fun of her for being single, which is wild. And she's had it. And she goes to Peter Dinklage, who is a basket maker.
SPEAKER_04Yeah.
SPEAKER_03The town basket maker. Yeah. But like he's giving um Lemony's not Lemony Snicket. Who's um in what's the movie or what's the TV show with all of it? Yes. What character am I thinking of?
SPEAKER_00Yes. Rumpel Stiltskin. Rumpel Stiltskin.
SPEAKER_03He's giving Rumpel Stiltskin vibes where he's like a basket maker and creative, but he's magical. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Uh huh. And she goes to him one day and she says, I want you to make me a husband. And he says, be at the chapel in a month, I guess, or something. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00And he weaves her a man.
SPEAKER_03He weaves her a man out of wicker basket material. Yes. And it's Alexander Scarscard. Yes. And I will say he looks better to me as the basket than his real life. That is bullshit. He's a little like skinny and small for me.
SPEAKER_00You're thinking of him as cut as the it clown. And that's not fair.
SPEAKER_03I don't know. I looked up because I didn't remember. I don't know what any of I didn't know what any of them looked like.
SPEAKER_00Did you watch True Blood?
SPEAKER_03I didn't.
SPEAKER_00That new movie Pillion, the gay movie? No. Okay.
SPEAKER_03I don't watch movies.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, what?
SPEAKER_03But I went and looked him up and I was like, this is not what I pictured him. I pictured him looking like the basket, just in person form. They made him jacked as this basket.
SPEAKER_00They did. As this basket. He's a jacked basket.
SPEAKER_03He's a jacked basket. So he shows, she shows up and they wed. And he's the perfect man. He's like tending to her needs. Well, I'm not there yet. Sorry. But he's like, he's tending to her needs. I love you. He's tending to her needs. He's like the soft, like man that is very like attentive that a woman yearns for, if you will.
SPEAKER_00And they don't seem to be hiding their relationship from the trailer.
SPEAKER_03And then it gets smuddy, and she is getting worked out by this basket man.
SPEAKER_04By this jacked basket.
SPEAKER_03Like there is like a moment where you can you know that he's rising to the occasion and you can hear it happen as basket material.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_03And then she is like, I mean, they are doing it here, there, and everywhere. And she then she's walking through the town like woo, and all the women are now jealous of her, and they're like, and and they're just like everyone knows it's he's a basket.
SPEAKER_00He's a wicker man.
SPEAKER_03He's a wicker man.
SPEAKER_00What do you think?
SPEAKER_03I mean everyone's like, you guys asked for you asked for original stories. What it is, I think it's based on the book like you said, but still, like we're not this is not a remake. You asked for an original story and you got it.
SPEAKER_00Anatomically.
SPEAKER_03And the girls are gagging, they're like horned up for this.
SPEAKER_00This like a 50 sh 50 shades of basket.
SPEAKER_03Yes, like I I'm reading all these comments because now I'm getting this is part of my algorithm.
SPEAKER_04Yeah.
SPEAKER_03Now I'm getting all these videos of people talking about the trailer, and then I go to the comments and everyone's like, I'm getting tickets.
SPEAKER_00Like I am can't wait to see the popcorn bucket.
SPEAKER_03So yeah. And also, ladies, don't do that.
SPEAKER_00And don't put a basket inside of you. It will scratch you up.
SPEAKER_03A basket. I saw someone post like Hobby Lobby or something has like a a witch hat made out of wicker basket material. And it's a cone shape.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_03And someone was like, Don't sit on this. Don't I don't want to. There's like ER nurses being like, I please don't show up.
SPEAKER_00Don't put this inside of you.
SPEAKER_03Inside of you.
SPEAKER_00Oh my god.
SPEAKER_03It's crazy.
SPEAKER_00Well, I'm not gonna lie, I will be seeing it.
SPEAKER_03No, like dead ass. I don't want to see it. But it's partially like I'm just like, what is happening?
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_03And it's like described as a vulgar show. Like in the credits, it's like vulgar comedy, horny.
SPEAKER_00Like it's like all of that, all the above.
SPEAKER_03Yeah. So I really needed to talk about that.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, it's important.
SPEAKER_03I am a little sad I couldn't show you. I couldn't watch your reaction.
SPEAKER_00Well, yeah, I was like, what am I looking at? I I was on TikTok when I saw it and it was I didn't have sound on. So I just stopped and I was like, oh, I need to hear what is happening here.
SPEAKER_03She's getting thrown around by that man.
SPEAKER_00That jacked basket, as you said.
SPEAKER_02Jacked basket. Well, there's no way to come out of that.
SPEAKER_00No. What else is happening on the algorithm?
Doll Mom TikTok And Titanic Reenactment
SPEAKER_00Well, let me tell you.
SPEAKER_03Please.
SPEAKER_00I don't shame anyone in what they're doing. Everyone, do whatever makes you happy. If you choose to do what makes you happy, then film it and put it on the internet for people to see. It does open you up, as you know, as a content creator. It does open you up to comments. And again, I know that people do things for a lot of different reasons. Trauma responses, passions they're not ashamed of.
SPEAKER_03I can't wait to talk about trauma responses.
SPEAKER_00Way to heal. I believe this one is maybe of something related to trauma, probably, but there is a whole site of TikTok I ended up on that is just doll moms. And it is women who, and maybe men, I haven't seen any yet, who raise the baby born, the the the real born. Real born. Those baby dolls that look Yeah, I don't know what they're called, but yeah. They're incredibly expensive. They're really lifelike, and they make them from actual feed, like born with umbilical cord. Yes, all the way through like taught like young kid. I don't know how old, but this woman that I was on and then sent to you was I think she she has like six or seven, and there's a set of twins that are I want to say six, so she has like six-year-olds, but it's not so much the act of like I I understand a lot of women who experience child loss or something, this is helpful for them, and that is why this company even happened, I think, was for that. Love, I think that that's great. It's I'm not even flabbergasted at the the motions, it's the amount of money she's spending on these rooms, are decked out full crib, full formula, tons of bottles, clothes galore, true one video I was on, she and her husband, she's married. We're at a hotel. She had a pack and play set up with a whole sleeping baby situation.
SPEAKER_03Does he participate? No. Or is he just like, I I love you?
SPEAKER_00I only saw him in that one video, and it's just because he was laying next to her in bed and it was like half of his head. Um it obviously, like, again, people do whatever you want. It's just like when it's things like this when they happen, and I see them, I'm like, just when I thought I'd seen it all.
SPEAKER_03Well, here's the thing over the years, I've seen videos like this pop up.
SPEAKER_00Oh.
SPEAKER_03But not like the video that you showed me.
SPEAKER_04Okay.
SPEAKER_03I've seen women either just like carrying it in their arms or carrying it like in one of those. Yeah, like a baby carrier. And and just kind of like existing, like that they have this newborn. And I do think those people that I saw, it was like they lost a child, and it's it's kind of like a coping mechanism for them. They were not this this person is role-playing, is role-playing, and having the babies or the ch toddler age, like child age, they're the cameras like on them, yeah, but like you can't like it. Looks like a TV show. Yes, yes, yes. And it's giving Chucky, like it makes me feel like the way a scary movie feels with like she gives them voices, yeah, and the way that they're moving is like giving like a sinister horror movie with a doll, and that makes me uncomfortable. And yes, that's why I don't like the particular video you sent me.
SPEAKER_00It's that she does a lot of that, and she does have kind of a scary voice. So, like when she will like you'll be sh you'll see her like making a bottle be like, stop fighting over there, and it cuts to a close-up of a doll.
SPEAKER_01And she's like, Yeah, it's a lot.
SPEAKER_03It's so cool. Yeah, so I don't mean to I'm not making fun of her for whatever reason she's doing this, but I am scared of the way that it's being filmed.
SPEAKER_00Yes, and I will say too, no shame, whatever, like do your thing. But it is like I was just I couldn't, I was like, I really thought I'd seen it all on TikTok.
SPEAKER_03No, and there's gonna be something else that's gonna change. Did you watch that video I sent you of the the family um portraying the Titanic last scene? And they're all participating.
SPEAKER_00Couldn't believe it. So good. Amazing. Sent it or watched it with boyfriend. I was just like, this is commitment, and like the lines were to a T correct.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, it was really good. They were in a lake and they were it was like a family of like 10, and they were all portraying the ending scene of Rose getting rescued. Rose getting rescued, yeah. And they're they're all floating, eyes closed, like half the ones that are the background actors, they have committed to floating dead, and then she they have a whistle somehow, so good, and it's her voice.
SPEAKER_00She blows it the exact same, yeah.
SPEAKER_03She blew it the same, her like jack, jack was exactly the same way. I was like, wow.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, they nailed it. It was so good. Millions of views, well deserved.
SPEAKER_03Yes. Well, okay, do you want to go?
Ariana Grande And Body Talk Boundaries
SPEAKER_03Both things I have to say are kind of downer characters.
SPEAKER_00All right.
SPEAKER_03Well, if you Do you want Ariana or do you want murders?
SPEAKER_00Let's do Ariana because I'm a I think I know what's going on there.
SPEAKER_03Okay, so the the headline is that Ariana has an Ariana Grande, if you will, has announced that she is taking a setback from the limelight when her tour ends. She was supposed to be a part of a show in the West End. She is pulled out of that.
SPEAKER_00Sundays in the Park with George.
SPEAKER_03Sure. I'm unaware of this show.
SPEAKER_00Okay.
SPEAKER_03Is it a play? Is it a musical? Okay. So, but in her show last night, whatever, I don't know. I think it was Chicago. She made a four-minute speech about it. Where so, like the let me rewind a little bit.
SPEAKER_00I like your black French tips.
SPEAKER_03Thank you. These are press-ons, which another algorithm thing is like I've learned about contact dermatitis now.
SPEAKER_00Oh no.
SPEAKER_03And that has really triggered my hypochondria because people were being like, I got contact dermatitis from press on nails. Press on nail glue.
SPEAKER_00Okay, but you're clean.
SPEAKER_03Is I don't get it.
SPEAKER_00I don't either.
SPEAKER_03Like what about it? Is it just an allergic reaction? But then it get apparently it never goes away.
SPEAKER_00I just noticed you're not going to be able to do that. You have it for the rest of your life. I don't have ADD. I'm sorry. I actually don't know what you're talking about then.
SPEAKER_03Okay. Well, I'll look into it.
SPEAKER_00Sorry, you have to be exposed to that.
SPEAKER_03Okay, so Ariana Grande. I don't have the initial, I don't know why. I don't have the initial thing, but she made a public thing that was like, I'm taking a step back. Then then last night in her show, she said, can we get a little real tonight? Um the announcement that was made yesterday was not a reactive or impulsive thing. It had been blown out of proportion. So the narrative is the public has been grow has been growing concerned about her body. And as someone who doesn't like their body to be talked about online, like I totally understand. But in either way, like because people think you're too big, or if people think you're too small, like I know it's hard to see that anyway.
SPEAKER_04Yeah.
SPEAKER_03But there's been a visible change in her body and her losing weight, even from last year when people said they were concerned. When she they were on the Wicked Press tour, she was very small, and there was people talking about it then. And she made a video, like a TikTok or like a just like selfie video that was also asking people to stop talking about her body. And the difference from that video to what she looks like now is significant. Like she's very like small then, and her like chest and face like are all skinny. But now it's like you can see every bone in her chest, her like the top of her shoulder. And people are kind of like, I know we're not supposed to be arm, yeah, even in and like her like oh yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_00The stuff in her head temples. Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_03Everyone's like, I know we're not supposed to talk about women's bodies, but like at what point is it like, hey, this is really unhealthy for young women to see. Like it feels like you really need help, like you're really not in good health. And the narrative she keeps being like, I'm in good, I'm healthy, I'm healthy. And when people say Athletic, athletic, and when people are like referring to her body back when she was kind of like, what sweetener time and she was on and break obviously, she was younger, like break free when that song was out. Like she is, you can tell she is weighs or she's like has more like body fat on her than. And she's like, the the body that you're referring to, like I was the most unhealthy I've ever been. And I don't know what that means. Maybe she's like, you know, I was drinking a lot, and I was doing drugs or whatever, and sure that, yeah, that would be like unhealthy, but she's doesn't ever acknowledge that she's as she's wasting away, basically. And so people are kind of just kind of getting over her, like annoyed at it, because it's like you don't ever acknowledge that like you are significantly changing in like a not great way, and she is always just like, I I'm fine, I'm fine, I'm healthy, I'm healthy, and blah blah blah. And so I think people are just kind of getting over it. And so she said that's what I think it's interesting. She said this was not a reactive or impulsive thing because it seems to people that it is that because it's like the backlash she's getting is becoming overwhelming. That it's like, okay, I need to go away. And maybe she's going to recovery. Maybe she's going to a recovery center. Like that would be really if if she needs it, that's great. Um, and she said it's something that I decided to plan, claiming she made. Her thoughtful and empowering decision quietly a long time ago. I guess like the West End could corroborate that. Like, when did she tell them that she was bowing out? I don't know. But I don't know. It's a hard subject because again, I don't like when people talk about me, my body.
SPEAKER_04Right.
SPEAKER_03But it it brings up a bigger question of like, is there is there a time where then it becomes like dire to talk about it? And to how do you tell like how do you get someone to acknowledge that they're unhealthy? Because Taylor Swift said that, right?
SPEAKER_00Like she was um she acknowledged when she was like an unhealthy weight.
SPEAKER_03Eating she said she had an eating disorder when she was on one of her tours, right? And then she recovered from that and then she was able to talk about it. So I think at at some point, hopefully Ariana can if that is what or maybe she has a medical condition that like is causing her to lose weight. Maybe she's on a medication, but like because she's not saying anything, I think then people feel like it's leaning towards eating disorder, and then that is it's hard for young uh kids to watch someone and have that be the standard that they want to meet. Like I want to look like her. And I don't know. It's a really hard, I'm finding it hard to speak about right now because it is sensitive and it is like you don't ever want to trigger people or hurt people's feelings, but like at some point you do need the people that you're seeing on your screens, like you don't want to see them like that and have them act like it's normal, and then you start feeling like, well, if I don't look like that, am I not normal? And then you it starts a whole spiral like within that person.
SPEAKER_00I don't know.
SPEAKER_03I don't know.
SPEAKER_00I don't either. Well, I hope the best for her. Yeah, time away is good regardless. I think she should non-stop, like she went right from wicked to wicked to tour, breakups.
SPEAKER_03Oh my god, yeah, it's like definitely understandable that mentally all that takes a toll on you. Yeah, so maybe she'll go to a nice spa.
SPEAKER_00She ne she deserves some time off with her and her husband. Yeah.
SPEAKER_03Wait, no, no, they broke up too. And he might be going back to his ex.
SPEAKER_00Oh my god. Thank you, next.
SPEAKER_03Okay, so the
Idaho Murders Recap And Conspiracy Spiral
SPEAKER_03other thing I had to talk about was I am really in the trenches on a spiral of the Idaho murders. The Idaho Foundation.
SPEAKER_00Are you watching the show?
SPEAKER_03Yes, so I started the documentary. I have been, ever since this happened, I have been watching videos, watch watching, listening to podcasts of people talk about it. Like I've been really interested in it. And then the trial happened and Brian Koberger was convicted. He um said that he did it. What is that word I'm trying to think of? He confessed. He confessed, and then he was sentenced to prison or whatever. I think he got a plea deal because he confessed.
SPEAKER_04Yeah.
SPEAKER_03And then over the years, this happened like four years ago, I think, three years ago, four.
SPEAKER_00No.
SPEAKER_03It's been a while. Has it? Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Is it just been that?
SPEAKER_03Yeah, it was just a long process. Are you sure it wasn't just last year?
unknownNo. Okay.
SPEAKER_03Yeah. And so, like, since that's happened, like a lot of people are people love to be internet sluice and they love to feel like they got a degree in you know armchair experts. Yeah. So there's been a lot, a lot of conspiracies that have come out of it, mainly on the two girls that survived. Okay. And it's a hard thing to talk about again because it's like trauma response, like we said earlier, you don't want to like take someone's trauma response and turn it around on them. Like the survivors don't deserve that. But but it is interesting that okay, let me rewind. If you guys don't know, I do that. I start talking and then I don't tell everyone what's happening.
SPEAKER_00Context incoming.
SPEAKER_03So this case happened at the University of Idaho. Or yeah, some a college in Idaho. And there is a group of four girls that live together in this big house, and one of the girls' boyfriends basically lived there. He was just there all the time. So one night at like 4 a.m., uh, a person comes in. Right now, Brian Koberger was convicted, so it's him.
SPEAKER_04Yeah.
SPEAKER_03He comes in to the top floor, which is the like kitchen floor, and there's a bedroom off the side. The girls had been out partying all night. Uh-huh. They come home, they're drunk. Two girls pass out on the same bed together, and the killer comes in, stabs them in their sleep. So they don't really have time to react or anything like that. Then the other girl, one of the other girls, had been in the kitchen because she had gotten DoorDash. She hears a commotion, sees someone, runs down the stairs to her bedroom where her boyfriend is asleep in the bed. And the killer runs after her. There's a struggle that happens. And then in the bedroom, he kills her and her boyfriend.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_03One of the surviving girls, uh, bedroom is on the second floor. She says she hears the commotion. She opens her door as he's chasing the one girl down. They see each other.
SPEAKER_00So he knows she knows they've he's seen her.
SPEAKER_03Yes. She closes her door, locks it. And the other roommate that survived is on the bottom floor. There's some communication back and forth. The girl on the second floor, her name is Dylan. She has she tries to call the other girls and they don't pick up. She texts the other surviving girl, her name is Bethany. They're like, What's going on? I don't know, I'm scared. Things like that. Bethany's like, Come down to my room, run down here. She says she says, run. So Beth Dylan does that. She says that she can see in Xana in her boyfriend's room. And she says she can see her on the floor, and she can tell that she's in her underwear. So she can see enough that she can see that, but she thinks she just is drunk, passed out on the floor. Mind you, she said she heard this commotion. She saw a random man in a ski mask. In a ski mask. Um, and so she runs down to the bottom floor to Bethany's room. This is like 4 30 in the morning. They lock the door, they do not call the police for eight hours. This is where people are pretty suspicious because there's activity on their phone happening. They're scrolling Instagram, they're on TikTok, they're making Venmo payments. Eight hours later, they call a friend from across the street, a guy, and they're like, Hey, something weird happened last night. Could you come over and just check the house with us so that we have like a guy here? He comes over, he walks upstairs, he sees the two girls.
SPEAKER_00Blood.
SPEAKER_03No, the girl and the guy there, because they're on the second floor. And he's like, You got you guys don't want to come in here. We need to call the police. The phone call to the police is like, our friend isn't responding. We think she's passed out, but she's not waking up.
SPEAKER_00But the guy saw that there was blood?
SPEAKER_03Yes. So then his story is he didn't want, they didn't see, they didn't actually see the body.
SPEAKER_04Okay.
SPEAKER_03So he's like, I'm just I was trying to be as conspicuous as possible so that they didn't know exactly what happened in Freak Out. And he was like, I was just trying to get the police over here so they weren't traumatized by seeing because that girl uh was stabbed 67 times. So there's people are suspicious because it's like if you could see enough in her room that you could tell that she was in her underwear, that means there was enough light for you to see that. How could you not see her in a pool of blood basically? So I'm just consumed by this documentary is kind of like no new information, which is kind of like okay. Yeah, and it's a lot of the police, um from their perspective of when they showed up and their process and everything, all that. Um, I've only watched the first episode, but now my algorith algorithm is back on the conspiracy theorist.
SPEAKER_00Which what's like a top conspiracy?
SPEAKER_03That the two survivors were in on it with Brian, or at least Dylan. They're the most suspicious of Dylan, it seems, because she was the newest person to move into the house and she wasn't as close as with the other girls.
SPEAKER_04Okay.
SPEAKER_03Um, and there was some cleaning up that happened in the house.
SPEAKER_00And it's but then why wouldn't Brian bring someone down with him?
SPEAKER_03Well, the newest thing is that he is trying to do that. He this week he came, went to the prosecutors or whatever, and he was like, I actually changed my mind. I was coerced into pleading guilty, and I have some things to say, and I have some information that you guys are gonna want to hear, and I want to retrial.
SPEAKER_00Because maybe this is just too broad of a question, but like, did Dylan have beef with any of these people that it would make sense that she'd want them dead?
SPEAKER_03So the only thing I've heard which is all very alleged, so alleged, you guys. All alleged is like could definitely be someone just making up a theory on their own. Sure. There might be some alleged drug-related things with one of the girls and one of the girls and her mom or something. I don't know. There's something drug, possibly drug related and money related. Okay. I don't know. It is like, on one hand, I want it to be as straightforward. Brian Kober did it alone.
SPEAKER_00The girls were what was his motivation?
SPEAKER_03He was a psycho that was in school for some sort of law enforcement thing, but he was like obsessed with serial killers. Like he did a they he did some project where he went and interviewed serial killers and he asked them like a bunch of crazy questions. Like he it's you idolize them. Yeah, like his whole when when they were doing the trial, it was like he for some reason one of the girls he seemed to be really interested in. And he he they have so many videos of him circling the house, like in his car, like staking it out. Where are they? Like different, not just one night, like multiple days, like he was everywhere, kind of like staking out the area and looking at him. So it I think everyone is like, he's involved, yeah. In whatever way, like whether someone else is involved, we do know that he what did it. Yeah, but the question is is was anyone else involved? So I'm very like it's morbid, but like I just like find it so interesting.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. The human psyche.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_00So stay tuned. Yeah, I guess.
SPEAKER_03I recommend checking it out if you guys don't know anything about the case more than what I just said. The documentaries on Netflix.
SPEAKER_00Well, give it a watch.
SPEAKER_03There might be one on Hulu, Hulu too. Um, okay, what's your A-list of
Christmas Movies And Practical Magic 2
SPEAKER_03the week?
SPEAKER_00My A-list of the week is a little delayed because we're in August, but this is technically something people do in July. But I was struck with the bug the other night because boyfriend was down. Uh okay, first of all, think what you will about AI. We're all served content. Are you ever getting served the like the AI content that's like Christmas morning in 1992?
SPEAKER_01Yes.
SPEAKER_00It's very ended up down that rabbit hole, and then it was it made me be like, why aren't we watching Christmas movies now? Christmas in July is a thing for a reason.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, did you do it?
SPEAKER_00We are going to tonight. Thank you. So it is I I support Christmas in July, or in this case early August.
SPEAKER_01What are you watching?
SPEAKER_00I think it's gonna be Home Alone. My favorite favorite movie is one, two, three, The Holiday. I knew that. Yes, I knew that. It didn't give you time to think. Um, but to me, that's not really a Christmas film strictly. It's a year-round. It is what I like to put on repeatedly in the holiday season. Oh my god, what?
SPEAKER_03Practical magic.
SPEAKER_00Oh my god.
SPEAKER_03It's coming out so soon.
SPEAKER_00I know.
SPEAKER_03Okay, sorry.
SPEAKER_00And that is exciting. We get Practical Magic 2. We have Princess Diaries 3 in development or in production. I mean, everything is great in the movie Works for us right now. I can't wait. Um anyway, my A-list of the week is Christmas in July, so watch a Christmas movie. And I want to say this really quickly because I saw this interview. Because I was always like, why isn't Evan Rachel Wood in the sequel? We still don't know what the storyline is.
SPEAKER_01Okay.
SPEAKER_00Because the Maisie, whatever, from Game of Thrones and Joey King are the two girls in the new Practical Magic.
SPEAKER_03Didn't know that. Never heard the casting for that.
SPEAKER_00Oh, yeah. So it's but what I can't figure out is are they supposed to be Evan Rachel Wood and that other actress grown up? I don't think so because Evan Rachel Wood, you the kids would be Evan Rachel Wood's age, like 40.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_00So it can't be that. And someone asked Evan Rachel Wood last week on the red carpet, like, how did you feel about that? She's like, was I sad? Yes. Because I, for like the nostalgia of it all, I would have loved to see where these characters went and to like have the opportunity. She's like, as a child actor, getting to be on that movie, the experience of working with Sandy and Nicole. Nicole was so amazing. They were so great to us that like I would have loved for little me to get to like go back as an adult and be like, this was such a magical experience. I'm so excited to get to do this full circle moment and to also see what had happened with our characters.
SPEAKER_04Yeah.
SPEAKER_00She's like, but no hard feelings. Like, she she was really cool about it. She's like, I'm so excited, like, I'm happy for them. That's great. It is, I'm I'm a little sad, but I'm sure it'll be great.
SPEAKER_03I feel like if it was her character, they would have done it. So it has to be. I agree.
SPEAKER_00So it has to be two different characters.
SPEAKER_03It sucks that like she couldn't even be background or anything. Like if it was like, look, your character is whatever, like not in it for whatever reason, but we would still love you to be a part of it in some way. Like, could they not have just put some like prosthetic nose on her and like put her in a background scene or like did they write those girls out of the whole show?
SPEAKER_00Because to me, it's like when they do remakes or things like this, and like original actors don't come back, they do try to do a lot of times you'll see in movies, they'll do like a like a phone call and they'll be on like a FaceTime for 30 seconds. And it's like then we all get our fix of at least seeing them in it, knowing that they're still in the world. But why not that? Like if she was like, oh way with her sister. I don't know.
SPEAKER_01She must have.
SPEAKER_00Both of the kids. Remember, she had a little sister. Well, I feel like there's dead. I hope this isn't it, but I wonder if it's like a parallel universe thing. Because the ants are in it.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_03Parallel universe.
SPEAKER_00And so is the detective. He's in it.
SPEAKER_03Hmm. I don't know. We're just gonna have to go watch.
SPEAKER_00And we will. Okay, back to A-list. What's yours?
Tinted Moisturizer Fix And WPBL
SPEAKER_03I actually have two. I have one that's a product. Okay. Because why'd you say oh like that?
SPEAKER_00Oh, sometimes you can't even think of one, but now you have two. Okay.
SPEAKER_03One of them is a product because sadly, my tinted moisturizer that I have used religiously has been discontinued. Oh, so I was very upset about that. That was the ColourPop tinted moisturizer.
SPEAKER_00Bring it back.
SPEAKER_03And what I liked about it, let me tell you, you didn't ask. I'm gonna tell you. I liked to take a thicker foundation. I was using the Makeup Revolution one. And I would do a little bit of that, and then I would do a squirt of the tinted moisturizer because it was a thinner consistency.
SPEAKER_04Okay.
SPEAKER_03And I liked to mix them together, and the consistency that that made on my face, gorgeous, I really enjoyed.
SPEAKER_04Okay.
SPEAKER_03Now I can't do that.
SPEAKER_04I'm sorry.
SPEAKER_03And it's so hot outside that, like for filming or whatever, or for live streams, I'm gonna wear like a heavier amount of makeup so that on camera my face looks even, whatever.
SPEAKER_04Yeah.
SPEAKER_03But like in regular life, I don't want to put all that makeup on because it's hot and sweaty.
SPEAKER_04Yes.
SPEAKER_03So I was on the hunt for a new tinted moisturizer, and I splurged a little for the Tarte Color Correcting Serum. And I like it.
SPEAKER_00Okay.
SPEAKER_03I'm wearing it right now. Amazing. For one. It's the one like it's comes out white, and then you like rub it in and it matches your skin color.
SPEAKER_00I had a men's one that's about once.
SPEAKER_03I am enjoying it. So I want you to know that if your moist tinted moisturizing serum runs out and discontinues, that you should try that one.
SPEAKER_00Tarte Beauty.
SPEAKER_03Non-sponsored. Non-sponsored. My other one is Sports Corner.
unknownOh.
SPEAKER_03The Women's Professional Baseball League has started. Oh, yeah. Everyone, uh, this past weekend was opening day. I went bald. No. It was it's in Springfield, Illinois. But they're every game is in Springfield, Illinois right now because they don't have enough money to like travel travel. Okay. Um teams? Four.
SPEAKER_04Okay.
SPEAKER_03LA, New York, Boston, San Francisco are the teams. Obviously, I'm rooting for Los Angeles. The LA Queens.
SPEAKER_00No fucking way.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_00I love that.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, they're so cute. Okay, so um I literally balled. At the opening ceremony, they had like players, um, prominent baseball women's baseball players, and then they had a lady, Maybelle. She is 99 years old. She was in the original League of Their Own. Women's um All-American Girls Baseball League from a League of Their Own. Yeah. She played for the Rockford Peaches. Oh my gosh. She's 99. She's so cute. She's in a wheelchair right now because she hurt, she fell and like hurt something, and she hadn't to have a procedure done. So she is in a wheelchair, but she is so cute. She threw one of the first pitches. I mean, I am just crying, crying, crying from this. Like there's a couple other uh women players, but like she was from the original one.
SPEAKER_04Yeah.
SPEAKER_03And so I highly recommend everyone. I don't know exactly when the games are played. You can go to the WPBL website. But um, I think you should support and watch a game. Women's Professional Baseball League.
SPEAKER_00Thank you.
SPEAKER_03And that's all.
SPEAKER_00We support women's sports.
SPEAKER_03We love women's sports. Well, take us home.
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