Ep. 67 Room by Emma Donoghue vs. Room (2015)

A story this intense leaves no room for sloppy choices, which is why comparing Room by Emma Donoghue with the 2015 Room movie is so fascinating. I walk through what stays the same, what shifts, and how adaptation decisions can quietly change the way we judge a character’s survival, parenting, and recovery. If you love book vs movie breakdowns, literary adaptations, and performance-driven films, this one gives you plenty to argue about.

I start with the premise: Jack is five, and the only world he knows is Room. From there, I map the biggest differences between the novel and the film, especially the details the book includes that the movie cuts for time and tone. Then I follow the escape plan step by step and talk about how even a small change outside the room alters the danger level and the way we experience Jack’s first contact with the real world.

The biggest shift comes after the rescue. The book is clearer about timelines and how much happens while they are still in the hospital, while the film reshuffles events to hit harder at home. That leads into the interview scene and the ethical line between “asking hard questions” and exploiting a traumatized survivor. I also get into one of my favorite film-only touches: Jack’s “strong” haircut and why turning it into a gift for Ma adds a surprising kind of tenderness. Along the way, I unpack the book’s stronger thread of religion, Emma Donoghue’s role in adapting her own story, and the Oscars conversation around Brie Larson and Jacob Tremblay.

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Transcript

Welcome And Life Updates

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Welcome to Books vs. Movies, the podcast where I sit out to answer the age-old question, is the book really always better than the movie? I'm Juvia, an actress and book lover based out of New York City, and today I will be talking about Room by Emma Donahue and its 2015 adaptation Room starring Gray Larson and Jacob Tremblay. Okay, hi y'all. So I'm excited to do this episode. I'm always excited to do an episode. But yeah, I release-wise, everything's coming out when I'm intending to, but behind the scenes, these past few weeks were much busier than I thought they would be, which is not a bad thing necessarily, or by any means. Yesterday, well, on where do I even start? I was in rehearsal pretty much every single day, two weeks ago, and there's quite a bit of work at my job, so just busy, busy, busy. And now things are starting to slow down again, but anyway. We did a reading yesterday of Orlando's new play, La Resurrection de Miguel. He was accepted into Simientos 2026, which is Iati Theater here in New York City. It's Iati Theater's play development program. So they had over 400 submissions. Orlando was one of 10 playwrights chosen to be a part of this process, and we received so much positive feedback. So he's on a high right now. I'm so happy for him. I'm so proud of him. So yeah, it's been a wonderful, wonderful week or weeks. And things were also a little bit difficult just personally, but things are looking up, they're getting better. So, you know, can't complain.

Room Setup And First Impressions

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But anyway, let's get started on Room. So, Room by Emma Donahue was first published in 2010. Jack is five years old, and to him, Room is the world. It's where he was born. It's where he and his ma eat and sleep and play and learn. And at night, his ma shuts him safely in the wardrobe where he's meant to be asleep when old Nick visits. To Jack, Room is home, but to his ma, it's a prison, a prison that she has been held in for seven years. In an effort to create a sense of normal safer Jack and filled with nothing but love, she has created a life for him in his 11 by 11 foot space. Jack is starting to grow older, he's starting to get more curious, and Ma is also starting to grow more desperate. And she knows that she and Jack cannot stay in room for much longer. The 2015 adaptation of Room stars Jacob Trimblay and Brie Larson, and it's a film that follows a little boy who is held captive in a room with his mother since his birth. So he has never known the world outside. So yeah, so this is a great film. This is a great film. This is a great book. I saw the film when it came out, or shortly after it came out, and this is my first time reading the book. I was like, you know what, let's do this. So yeah. So yeah, so I I had seen the film before. I watched the Oscars when Brie Larson won for Best Actress for her portrayal of Ma in Room. And I had just never read the book. Obviously, I was intrigued by it, but I just never picked it up. But I re-watched the film recently and I was like, you know what, let's do it. I have been wanting to read the book. Let's do it. It's a good film. It's definitely, I mean, I haven't seen it since 2015, maybe 2016. I don't remember exactly when I saw it. So it's been about 10 years or slightly more than 10 years since I've seen it, which makes sense because this is not a feel-good film that is like I'm gonna make time to watch it once a year. It's because a difficult film to watch. But let's get into it. So, first

Key Changes Inside The Room

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things first. In the book, Ma is 26, and in the film, she's 24. I'm pretty sure that change was just made to accommodate Brie Larson's actual age. She's only a year older than me, so she would have been around 23 or 24 when they filmed this. I'm sure she could have played 26, so I mean, visually, a 24-year-old and a 26-year-old don't look much different. So I can't think of any other reason why this would have been done other than to accommodate Brie Larson's actual age, but I can't be too sure. So that means in the film she was kidnapped when she was oh, spoilers, yes. She was kidnapped, which is how she's been in room for seven years. Spoiler alert, you know this, but anyway, so Ma in the film was kidnapped when she was 17 and she's been there seven years, and in the book she was kidnapped when she was 19, and again, she's been there seven years. So, yeah, I'm not really sure why that change was made. I also obviously you can get kidnapped at any age, but I do feel like it might be. I mean, I don't know. I'm thinking of myself when I was 19. I'm not gonna lie, probably still would have been pretty easy to kidnap at the age of 19, but granted, it would have been slightly more difficult as a 19-year-old than a 17-year-old. So I don't know if that was also reasoning, but if I had to guess, I would guess more to accommodate Brie Larson's age. Anyway, so when they're in room, there aren't a lot of major changes between the book and the film. I think the biggest change while they're in room is that is just how Jack sees old Nick for the first time. So old Nick is Jack's biological father, and the events of how he sees old Nick for the first time are slightly different. Nothing too too major, but there is a slight difference there. But nothing, most of the major changes happen once Ma and Jack have been rescued from room.

The Escape Plan On Page

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And so the way that happens, and this is exactly the same in both, is that Ma fakes an illness for Jack. So she's hoping that she like puts really hot washcloths on him so he feels kind of sweaty and feverish. She makes herself throw up and like spreads it on the pillow so that it looks like Jack threw up. And her hope is that she can make Jack look sick enough that old Nick will take Jack to the hospital. When that fails, she convinces Old Nick that Jack is dead and she trains Jack on what to do. So she rolls him up in a rug and she's like, You cannot move, you cannot make any sounds. He's gonna throw you in his truck once you're gonna roll out of the rug and then jump out of the truck, and whoever you see first, you're gonna say who you are and just tell them that you need help. So that's exactly what happens. In the book, there's no major incident. Jack, I mean, this is a major incident, but in terms of like what happens when Jack meets the person or runs into the person that he ultimately runs to for help. So in the book, Jack unrolls himself, he jumps out of the truck, old Nick stops the truck, he goes after Jack. Jack runs to the first person he sees, and that person in the book happens to be walking a dog, and this dog is kind of startled by just this little boy suddenly running at him. So he does snap at Jack and ends up biting him and causing a bit of an injury to Jack's finger. This dog does not exist in the film. When Jack escapes, like he runs up to the person and like old Nick still manages to catch him, but he gives up on dragging Jack back once the person starts acting really suspicious about the way old Nick is acting. And so he just he abandons Jack and flees. So there's no dog. Jack just runs up to the person and says, I need help. And then he and Ma are saved. Ma is also adopted in the book, while in the film she's the biological child of her parent. And again, not a major, it doesn't really affect anything, but I just thought I would point that out. She also has an older brother in the book. In the film, she's an only child. So yeah, so she has like a whole older brother. She's been missing for seven years. So at this point, her older brother is married. He has a kid of his own. So when she's kidnapped, she has just an older brother, and when she's rescued, she comes out with a sister-in-law and a niece. So yeah, but there's no older brother in the film who's non-existent, he's cut up completely. In the book, Jack is also Ma's second child. So Ma ended up getting pregnant with her first child. And again, unfortunately, this Jack and his older sister are products of sexual assault. But when Ma was pregnant with her first child, old Nick was in the room when she was giving birth, and there was a complication with her pregnancy, and he kidnapped this girl, so obviously he like refuses to let her seek any kind of medical treatment. And so he's assisting her, but he's not really doing anything. So the Ma is eventually able to give birth, but unfortunately, the umbilical cord was wrapped around her baby, and because they did not seek medical attention, the baby was unfortunately born dead. This is what leads Ma to not allow old Nick to see Jack at all. So from the moment that she gives birth to Jack, and even when she ends up pregnant with Jack and she gives birth to him, old Nick shows up again to supposedly be there and she kicks him out. She refuses to allow him to be in the room with her because of the trauma of how she lost her first baby. So she does not allow old Nick to be in the room with her. She gives birth to Jack, there are no complications, everything's fine. And so once Jack is out of her womb and alive and well and breathing and healthy, as healthy as a child born in these circumstances could be, she refuses to let old Nick see him. And it's it's kind of like she's protecting Jack, obviously, but it's also kind of like a superstition because the last time that he laid eyes on his child, the child died. So it's a little bit of superstition, but ultimately Ma is also just protecting Jack from this horrible person who kidnaps her and sexually assaults her almost every single night. So yeah, I understand why this was cut out from the film. It just would have required too much explaining, I think. And this is already such a heavy film. I don't know. Like just reading about it in the book was difficult.

Hospital Time And Homecoming Shifts

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But anyway, I also found it really interesting, like, once they are rescued, in the film we don't really get a sense of time. Like, obviously, we know time has is passing, but we don't get a sense for how much time Jack and Ma really spent in the hospital before being sent home. And a lot of the major events that happen in the film once they are home actually happen while they're in the hospital in the book. And yeah, it's just really interesting because, like, I'm reading all the events that are happening in the book, and then Jack will say something like, It's been a week since we were rescued from old Nick's place. And it's like all of these things happened in one week. All of this, it does make sense that like so much would happen because now they're free, and Jack is having a hard time adjusting to life outside of room, and it's overwhelming. And but it still just felt like so much happens to find out only a week has passed. It's just like wow. I do like that in the film it was a little bit more ambiguous about how much time had passed, but I think it's definitely I mean, I don't know if everything that happens in one week in the book is realistic, but I think it does make more sense for them to spend more time in the hospital the way they did in the book than the film. And mind you, again, I know in the film we don't actually know how much time they spend in the hospital, but it does seem like it's less than a week. It might have been a week and just magic of editing all that. It is ambiguous, I admit, but still, regardless, it just feels like more time was spent in the hospital in the book than was actually spent in the film. One of the major events that happens at home in the film is the interview.

The Interview And Its Fallout

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Well, it happens in the hospital in the book. And honestly, I think it makes sense, more sense, for this interview to happen once they're at home rather than in the hospital. Just because I feel like the doctors are so intent on making sure that Jack and Ma are fully ready to go out into the world. Like Ma is ready to leave that hospital. Like she gets rescued, they spend it overnight, and then she's like ready to leave the next day. Which I think anyone kidnapped for seven years would probably be like, I don't want to be in another unfamiliar place, even if it is a hospital and they know I'm safe here. Yeah, it's just like, but just how protective like the doctors and the nurses are with Joy. Joy is Ma's actual name. She's called Ma primarily in both the book and the film, but we do find out her name is Joy, but so I might interchange them. I apologize for that, just kind of how my brain works. But anyway, so yes, with like it makes total sense. The doctor is very like, you can't go home yet. Like, you need to have a little bit more of a psychiatric evaluation. You need to get your immune system up. Like, I know you're desperate to leave, but you need to stay here a little bit longer. So I don't know, if that everyone wants to have a tell all interview with Ma makes sense. But it doesn't make to me, it doesn't make sense to me that the hospital would allow it to happen on hospital grounds. I feel like they'd be very like, once she's released out into the world, that's on her, but like at the hospital, like she's not ready for it. If she decides she's ready once she's out of here, that's one thing. I do think that that change made a lot of sense for the film. I think it just made it a little bit more heartbreaking. A lot of the moments we see with Ma readjusting to being back out in the world, it makes total sense. She's like, I'm fine. Like, yes, I was kidnapped for seven years, but I'm fine. And then I liked that in the film we get to see her adjusting to being back home and realizing that as much as she says she's fine, she's not fine. And just how that's the word I'm looking for. I can't think of the word. Just how irritable. That's the word I'm looking for. How irritable she is, and how she's struggling to reintegrate back to her family life, and just seeing her dad refuse his grandson and just how heartbreaking that is for her. Her dad does also disown his grandson in the book, but again, this happens in the hospital. The the conversation between Ma and her dad just being like, This is your grandson, and him being like, Hell no, that's not my grandson, and happens in the hospital in the book versus happening at home in the film. To clarify, her mom and her dad are divorced, and her mom now has a new partner. So after her dad disowns Jack, he leaves, and so it's just Ma's mom and her stepdad like helping her and Jack readjust. In the book, the dad leaves as well after he disowns his grandson, but they have only grandma and stepgrandpa helping, but they have Ma's brother and her sister-in-law helping as well. But yeah, I will say I just seeing a lot of interviews, like how we've looked back on past interviews and kind of realized that some of them were not okay, like the way they were conducted or the way they were handled, or there's just been a lot of reckoning. And I'm not saying that journalists need to censor, they need to ask difficult questions. I'm not gonna sit here and say that journalists should not. Like, I definitely think journalists in doing their research, their investigation, they may discover something and they have to ask difficult questions. They're more than welcome to ask those questions. But I think we can also agree that there's some moments that were maybe not handled well. And in this fictional context, it's also like, is this the best? I don't know. I don't understand why the interviewer was allowed to ask this question. And that is so she asks Ma, why did you keep Jack? Why didn't you let old Nick take him away and drop him off at like a hospital or another safe point? Ma's like, because that's my child. And the journalist says, I mean, I understand that, but like, didn't you want to give Jack a normal life? And I don't know, to me, it's like, why is she allowed to ask this question, knowing how delicate this person still is mentally? Like, I'm not saying that's not a question people aren't wondering. I think any of us would probably wonder why she would choose to keep her son, but I also think any mother out there would also be like, I know why I'm keeping my child with me in this room. So, like, no, I'm not judging Ma's decision. I understand why Ma made the decision she did. And I think it bugs me so much because it is true, it is probably something that would happen in an interview. And again, I understand asking the difficult questions, but this is already a difficult thing for Ma to talk about. And she's traumatized and she still hasn't recovered from that trauma. So I don't know. Like, anyway, it's not the point. She gets asked that question, it drives her into her depressive state and she attempts to kill herself. So she has to spend even more time at the hospital than she would have had this interview not happened. But that's all I'm trying to say. I understand needing to ask difficult questions, and that's one of the difficult questions that people are probably wondering the answer about, but there's still like a delicate way to ask, or a more just a nicer way to go about it, or don't ask the question at all at this point in time. You can wait until she's recovered a little bit more. That question really bugged me because it's like have some empathy, have some empathy. And it's like, I don't think journalists are devoid of empathy. So it's like, why are you like you can ask difficult questions but still be not a cold, heartless person. But anyway, moving

Hair Strength And Growing Pains

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on. One thing that I really liked in the film, and I thought was so sweet, that doesn't happen in the book, is that Jack cuts off his strong. That's what he calls his long hair. So obviously, Jack's never had a haircut, he's lived in room his whole life, and even after he's rescued, his grandma wants to give him a haircut, and he refuses to get his haircut because he's like, That's my strong. This is where the strong part of me lives, and I'm gonna keep it because if you cut it, then I'm not gonna be strong anymore. And so after he doesn't cut off his strong right away, but he does decide once he starts adjusting to life with his grandparents, I think I'm okay cutting my hair now. So he cuts off his hair with every intention of sending it to his mom so that his mom can get strong from his strong. So he's giving his strength to his mother, which is so sweet. But in the book, he just wakes up one day and is like, I'm gonna cut it. And he cuts it, and that's it. They don't send his hair off to his mom. He just cuts it and is like, ah, I'm good. And it's like the best part of the strong in the film is that he's giving it to his mom so that she can recover. I will say it's also easier for Jack to adjust to life outside of room in the film than it is in the book. He struggles a lot more. I don't know. I think what he struggles with in the book makes total sense for him to struggle with because he's never had any kind of social interaction with anyone other than his mom. But it also makes sense to me that he adjusts a lot more quickly than Joy does because he is five years old and the doctor says, like, you got him out at a good age because it he's still plastic, which is just brain is easier to mold, adjust. Yeah. It's just it's a little bit more malleable, a little bit more malleable and easier to erase the things that they want to erase. I don't know why I phrased it like that, but you know, essentially it's easier for him to forget because he's five. So that change didn't necessarily bother me, but it was interesting to see Jack struggling in the book more. Although there what I do appreciate in the film is that Jack's family, when once Ma's hospitalized after her suicide attempt, Jack's family is very they take their time with him. They don't pressure him or rush him into trying new experiences or trying new things. And in the book, I do feel like there is a little bit more of that. And I feel like, wouldn't it be easier for him to adjust if he's making his own choice to try certain things? I don't know. But also, like, how do you expect this kid to adjust when you're kind of just forcing social norms on him and he has no idea what social norms are? So, for like example, in both the both the book and the film, his grandma wants to cut his hair because he's a boy and boys have short hair. That's it. But when his grandma suggests it in the film, it's very like, oh, don't you want to cut your hair? And he's like, No. And she leaves it. In the book, it's like, we should cut your hair because you're a boy. And so to him, it's like, why does my being a boy matter whether or not I have long hair? The book is told through Jack's point of view. So it's in first person through Jack's point of view. So these are the thoughts that are running through his brain. There's also a moment in which Ma's older brother and her sister in law show up to take Ma and Jack to the museum. They're still staying at the hospital at this point, but they're allowed to leave, obviously, as long as they come back. So they had every intention of taking Ma and Jack, but Ma, this is the day after the interview. So Ma is depressed. She has not attempted. Suicide at this point, but she is depressed and she goes into like this catatonic state, and she's like that all day. This is the first time that she has access to a way to kill herself, which is what happens. But in room, she would have days in which she would just go into like a catatistonic state, and Jack would just have to wait it out. So she's in one of her catatonic states, so she stays behind at the hospital, and Jack goes with his uncle and his aunt and his cousin. And they're supposed to go to the museum. They never make it because there's some incidents that happen at the mall. They go to the mall to buy a present for Jack's cousin's friend's birthday party. And one of the only friends, as Jack calls her, in room is Dora from you know Dora the Explorer. And so he finds a Dora the Explorer backpack and it's pink and he wants it. But his uncle's like, no, you shouldn't have a pink backpack. Why don't you have this one instead? And she he shows him like a blue one. I think it's might have been Spider-Man. But Jack wants the pink Dora one because Dora was his friend in room. And so they're like, unfortunately, I feel like that is a little bit more accurate to the society we love in that this little boy who has no idea about social norms, gender norms, gets thrown into the world and is automatically being forced into it. Jack ends up taking the pink backpack anyway. Like he starts walking out of the store with it because he has no concept of he has no idea he has to pay for it. And so his aunt and uncle end up buying the backpack because he's about to walk out of the store with it. And to avoid any embarrassment, they buy it. So it's just really sad, but I don't know. It's to me, it's just really sad that it's like this kid is still adjusting to life on the outside, and he has the rest of his life to find out what social norms are. I don't know. To me, wouldn't it make sense to have to not force him into that while he's still adjusting? I mean, I'm not gonna get into my thoughts and opinions on all this, but that's all I'm trying to say. It's just like this kid is still adjusting and you're already trying to. I don't know. To me, it's just like, I don't, I wouldn't think it's a big deal of mine if you wanted me to buy him a pink backpack. He's growing up exposed to the world we live in now. But it's like, especially if we had just rescued him, if like Dora is gonna help him adjust to life in the real world, I wouldn't be concerned about like, no, we need to get you the blue one. I'd be like, this is gonna help you cope with life out here, this awful, awful world you've just been thrown into. Let's get you Dora. Anyway, that just that was just really frustrating to me, but it's so accurate. So I'm not like it's accurate. I'm not criticizing it. Unfortunately, it's true. But anyway, so that's pretty much it in terms of like changes. But one

Religion Adaptation Choices And Oscars

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thing I found really interesting is the film is about two hours long, and it's the way they did it was so cool. Like it's literally the exactly the first half of the film takes place in room, and then the exact last half takes place in the outside world. I always love when films do stuff like that, when it's like right when this happens, it coincides with the time of this other event. I don't know, it's really cool. So I I just find it really cool when that happens, or when like a character says, like, we're like 10 minutes away from launch and it's exactly 10 minutes from launch in the film. Like in the film, like if you fast forward exactly 10 minutes, the launch happens. So I always I don't know, I always really like those little Easter eggs. So I thought that was really fun that it's exactly 50-50 takes place a bit in room and then in the outside world. The book is also a lot more religious, which caught me off guard reading it because there's no mention of religion in the film whatsoever. This is not a critique or anything about religion being included in the book. It's just it just caught me completely off guard because I was like, whoa, like there's so much religion is just brought up so much in the book, and it's such a fundamental part of the book, and it's not included in the film. So that just caught me completely off guard. But Emma Donahue explained that the reason why the book is so religious, if you want to call it that, I wouldn't necessarily call it like religious, but it's a lot more religious in the film, is because Donahue just feels that like people, if they're thrown into a circumstance as extreme as the one that Ma is thrown into, they tend to turn toward whatever spirituality they grew up with, whether that be the religion they grew up with or whatever. But a lot of people turn to that as a way to cope and as a way to keep their hope alive. So that's why this is included in the book. So again, it's it didn't bother me. It didn't bother me in any shape, way, or form, but it just caught me completely off guard because I was like, there's no mention of religion whatsoever in the film. And then to just have Jesus brought up in the book every few chapters or every few pages, well, not even chapters, this isn't really a chapter book, but anyway, every few pages Jack talks about Jesus, or he does a prayer, or yeah, so I'm just commenting on the fact that it caught me so completely off guard, but it's such a fundamental part of the book. And Emma Donahue's explanation does make sense to me, but it yeah, it just caught me completely off guard because you would never guess from watching the film that religion was gonna be brought up as much as it was in the book. I also found it really interesting that Emma Donahue also adapted the book into the film, and she actually wrote the screenplay before the book was officially published. She believed in her book and her story that much that she wrote the screenplay. So, yeah, so once it was published and rights were bought, she was like, Oh yeah, the screenplay. So that's really cool. And as I mentioned earlier, Brie Larson won an award. She won the Academy Award for Best Actress for her portrayal of Ma. And honestly, you've heard me fangirling over Jacob Tremblay because that kid is inredible. He is such a good actor. And honestly, I feel like he deserved a nomination for if they don't want to nominate him for leading role, at least for supporting role. And honestly, I feel like he deserved it. He deserved to be nominated just as much as Brie Larson deserved to be nominated. I haven't seen a lot of the films that were nominated for the 2016 Oscars. So I'm not really gonna comment on whether or not Brie Larson deserved to win or someone else. I mean, I feel like Bree Larson did deserve the win. I thought she did a really good job, but I can't really compare her performance to the performances of the other actors on there. Just like I can't really comment on the performances of the actors who were nominated. But I feel like, I feel like someone, one of the male nominees from supporting role, not received the nomination and shoot in Jacob Tremboy instead. I think leading actor might have been a bit more of a stretch. I think he could have been nominated for lead actor as well. But just looking at who was nominated, I think he would have had more of a shot in of receiving a nomination for supporting role. I don't think he would have won. I've never seen this film, or so I can't comment on Mark Rylance's performance. I don't think he would have beaten Mark Rylance, but he deserved to be nominated. Like honestly, I remember my mom mentioning that too. She was like, Bray Larson did a great job. But honestly, like Jacob Tremblay knocked it out of the park, and I feel like he deserved a nomination as well. This is my mom. My mom like never comments on like she doesn't really care about the Oscars or like the award shows or anything like that. So the fact that like even she was like, that little boy deserved a nomination. And I honestly do think he deserved at least a nomination. Like this kid, man, I've already fangirled enough about him in my Doctor Sleep episode. I'm gonna fangirl over him again because this kid is so talented. He is so good. So

Ratings Final Winner And Next Read

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good. So I feel like he deserved a nomination. But that being said, I rated the book four stars and I rated the film four stars. They're both excellent, but I think my winner is the film. The book is still fantastic, but I think an Emma Donahue acknowledges that like having the book narrated by a five-year-old was gonna be kind of a stretch and that it would alienate a lot of people. It didn't alienate me, it didn't really bother me overall, but I think that was also the book's downfall for this episode. I the film edges it up just a little bit more because of little boy narrating in the book. Not that it's a bad narration, not that it's written terribly or anything like that. But there were the way, like the pros of it, I think it makes sense for a five-year-old. But at times it was like a little grating, in my opinion. So the film edges it up just ever so slightly for that reason. But yeah, shout out Jacob Tremblay. You deserved a nomination. Justice for Jacob Tremblay. Anyway, that is it for this week's episode of books versus movies. If you liked what you heard, please leave it a rating and a review. Share it with all your friends, tell them all about it. Next time I will be talking about The Immortal Life of Henrietta Lax and its, I believe, 2018 adaptation, The Immortal Life of Henrietta Lax, starring Oprah Winfrey and Roseburne. See you next time. Bye.