Work Or Shoot?: A Wrestling Podcast
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Work Or Shoot?: A Wrestling Podcast
Rumble Speculation, Clay's Shiny Belt Drama, and Will Cody Turn Heel? Let's Get Ready to Rumble!!
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Excitement fills the air as the team delivers detailed predictions for the highly anticipated Royal Rumble. With lively discussions on potential surprise returns and expectations for the women's and men's Rumble matches, the hosts explore the significance of each wrestler's journey leading up to the event.
• Reflections on SmackDown leading to the Rumble
• Predictions for potential surprise entrants in the Women’s Rumble
• Analysis of the men’s Rumble candidates and dark horses
• Enthusiasm for the upcoming ladder match with history
• Sound arguments on how certain outcomes could shape future storylines
• Final thoughts reflecting collective love for wrestling and community engagement
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Rumble Predictions and Discussion
Speaker 1Now get the cards, the drugs from my generation. I'll take the fall.
Speaker 2Easy, though Easy though, Easy though Easy though you will feel nothing but rage. From this day, God almighty, the God almighty. They killed me. Herp your smile.
Speaker 1Welcome in to the Showing Color podcast. This is Heavy D Wayno's on the call. Get it, get it. Noah's here, what up? Claybo Wes, little Wes and Little Wes are here too, but they're in the other room. Yeah, boys. So much to talk about Like literally everything We've not recorded in Since Christmas.
Speaker 1Since Christmas, clay says I listened to the last episode. That's, you're the only person that listens, so we've not recorded since Christmas. A ton of stuff happened. I don't feel like we can cover everything. I got a replica belt. Clay got a replica belt for Christmas. We already talked about that, didn't we? Mm-mm? Oh, okay, clay got a replica belt. He's a champ. He carries it around. I cashed in money in the bank on him at Christmas, though we can't cover everything that we've missed. So we're just going to go and hit the rumble. Do the rumble predictions. Let Wayne go off on some stuff. Let Wes go off on some stuff. Let Wes go off on some stuff. Put some respect on some people, follow some figs, and we'll get through this. It's late at night. We're recording right after we watch Smackdown, before Rumble, so we can get the prediction show out to everybody. So I think we just let's just go straight into it. You guys want to go straight into it.
Speaker 2Anybody want any opening remarks.
Speaker 1Anybody want to say anything before we go into Rumble? Wino.
Speaker 3Wes can eat shit yeah, he loves it.
Speaker 1You can't. You're not wearing headphones. You have no idea what he's saying. I heard don't worry about it, hold on. So, on Smackdown tonight. Let's go over what was on SmackDown tonight. Wayne, have you watched the show? No, yeah, okay, briefly, yes, there it is the briefly part caught me. Yeah, sure, I watched it. Yeah, I watched it a little bit Briefly.
Speaker 1Uneventful SmackDown, I thought for a pre-show before Rumble. Some uneventful SmackDown, I thought for a pre-show before Rumble. It was mediocre. Matches were decent. We got some really good promos. We got the Punk and Kevin promo. That Punk and Kevin promo, where they were just literally standing there and nobody said anything and the crowd was chanting holy shit, was awesome.
Speaker 2Sorry for cussing. Sorry for cussing.
Speaker 1But that was like Noah agreed with me, that I that during that show, that ko is like my one right now. Ko is. Everything ko is doing for me is turning to gold good or bad guy, he's, he's all around always baby I mean no matter what they're pushing him. It's because he feels like the same person, whether he's baby face or heel?
Speaker 5oh yeah, because even if he is good, you know, he's still got that.
Women's Rumble Predictions and Speculation
Speaker 1Yeah, you know dad is wearing a kevin is right shirt. Kevin is right. I just want everybody to know that I do thank kevin. Never mind, let's get there. Let's get there. Sorry, kevin is right. Um, yeah, this is my favorite wrestling tournament round. It's great, um. So we assume women's rumumble is going to be the first match. Side note me and Clay and Rhino recorded a bonus episode with Rumble predictions. That'll be at the end of this episode. So if you stick around after the closing music, you'll catch me and Claybo and Rhino with our Rumble predictions.
Speaker 2I'm not really in it for half of it.
Speaker 1Yeah, it's just me and Rhino for the first half and, and Claybo and Rhino, with our Rumble predictions, I'm not really in it for half of it. Yeah, it's just me and Rhino for the first half and then Claybo. A lot of.
Speaker 4O's.
Speaker 1A lot of O's, just a lot of O's. We're all about the O.
Speaker 3What All about the O Woo? There it was.
Speaker 1There you go Too many O's. There it was. There you go Too many O's. But yeah, stick around after the closing music and you'll get some bonus content. It's like an hour, but let's go over it. Women's Rumble right. That's what we're going to start with. That's where we thank Women's Rumble right. Women's.
Speaker 3Rumble Women's Rumble Women women's rumble, right?
Speaker 1So, uh, women's rumble, women, women, women. Womble Wayne, do you think Charlotte is going to come back near the bottom or near the top? I think she'll be in the top 10, or you think she'll be in like 20 to 30.
Speaker 3Mid, I would imagine, because we got the vignette, you know. So I mean it's not like crazy to the pot, but you know, I think she'll be in at 26.
Speaker 1Clay always says 26, no matter who's there. Um the don't you think it's confusing that like that's. What we need to talk about is why. What is the reason? I know what Wes thinks the reason is, and he might not be wrong, but what is the reason that they spoiled Charlotte and her return?
Speaker 3I think it's a couple things. I hate it One nobody cares about the women.
Speaker 2I mean that's facts.
Speaker 4I can say that, I can say that now we've got a different president.
Speaker 1You're right, this is Trump's America.
Speaker 3I think we're going to have a few surprises, honestly in the women's drum roll. Who do you think Name one, name one, I mean Becky, is a given, I think, right. I think Becky too. I think that, I think that I'm hoping AJ like it has to happen at some point.
Speaker 1I don't think so because Punk's pulled it, because Punk mentioned it. That's why I don't think it's going to happen right it's going to happen at some point no, are you going to surprise?
Speaker 5honestly, I'm excited to see what TNA sends over.
Speaker 1Yeah, I got Jordan Grace Jordan. Honestly, she's not.
Speaker 2TNA no more, she's WWE.
Speaker 5I'd love to see Hendry show up yeah.
Speaker 1Oh yeah, we're specifically talking about women, because in the men's Hendry's- definitely going to be there.
Speaker 5I'm just you know, Hendry's definitely there In general for surprises, surprises. That's the hinge, that's what I'm hoping for.
Speaker 1that that pop's gonna be awesome too. Yeah, how about a guy that just got over by making a song? Yeah?
Speaker 2yeah, it was impressive.
Speaker 1Um, yeah, I think the women's the biggest thing that's gonna happen in the women's rumble is gonna be the jade stuff, like I think that's gonna be like the big thing in that rumble, whoever it is, whether it be naomi or bianca or somebody else, that's gonna be the main thing. I think rumble, whoever it is, whether it be Naomi or Bianca or somebody else, that's going to be the main thing. I think.
Speaker 4Don't you think Wes? Yeah, I think that. Also, I think Charlotte's going to come out last and win.
Speaker 1Yeah, you think Charlotte will come out. She'll win. Has anybody won at 30,? Wayne, yeah.
Speaker 4Yeah, cody, cody, women's.
Speaker 2Women's, women's. That's what I was.
Speaker 4I'm sorry, that's what I was alluding to was she's going to come out like Cody did.
Speaker 1And win, and win at 30. Yeah, that makes sense. They don't talk enough about Cody winning at 30. It's kind of weak when was that Was that last year or the year before?
Speaker 4The year before?
Speaker 1I think the year before yeah that's right, because Cody came out at 15 last year.
Speaker 4Who won last?
Speaker 1year Cody.
Speaker 2Cody.
Speaker 1Cody was back-to-back right. Yeah, man, if he wins again, I'll kill myself. He can't win again.
Speaker 2He can't. He's got a match.
Speaker 1You never know.
Speaker 4But no, I think that she's going to come out at 30, like Cody did, and she's going to win.
Speaker 1Yeah, I she's gonna win. Yeah, I could see that that's solid prediction. Um, we had some final four picks last night who we think it's gonna be like. It could be a bunch of random women, like if, if the jade things happens, it has to be some combo of jade or bianca or naomi and somebody to those girls.
Speaker 4If you guys remember way back when jade first debuted, not as like her match, but when she just debuted, where? She signed first introduction to her. She turned around after you know like I think she's talking to triple h.
Speaker 1She turned around and she was like nose to nose with charlotte, oh yeah, and like yeah, that's the thing um the feuds, though, like it doesn't make sense, I guess who's Charlotte's going to come in and feud with? It's not going to be Rhea.
Speaker 4I don't think, because they're not going to do that again. It's going to be Tiffy.
Speaker 1I don't know what just happened. Yeah, I think it'll be Tiffy. Tiffy's spot tonight on SmackDown was awesome. She looked awesome. I hate she's awesome. I very much dislike Candice LeRae. Everybody does Kludge not using the word hate. He very much dislikes Candice LeRae. We very much dislike Nia Jax. I very much dislike that.
Speaker 4Yeah, but sadly I think that's the Rumble winner.
Speaker 1No, there's nothing to say about them. Don't talk to me about Nile Jackson.
Speaker 5Absolutely. That's all I got to say.
Speaker 1I'm glad that she didn't bust Tiffy's boobies. That's all I'm glad about. She looked like she was going to bust Tiffy's boobies, and she didn't.
Speaker 3Busted boobies.
Speaker 1Predicted winner for women's, because I'm done talking about it.
Speaker 3I told you mine think wayne I want to go last because I have a lot of very okay.
Speaker 5No, that's okay, I honestly don't know no idea uh, yeah, for the women's.
Rumble Predictions and Women's Match Discussion
Speaker 1I'm just mystery man yeah don't know or don't care. A little bit of both, yeah, I feel that.
Speaker 2So, uh, that's Resident Evil yeah, I was about to say are you loading into another room? Resident Evil loading screen. Yeah, the wolves are gonna come out.
Speaker 1That was awesome Clay, I know we said a bunch of our picks on the bonus episode, but I'm still gonna say mine. No, you say them here. They're not. They're probably not gonna listen to the bonus episode, so I said I'm not going to put those Rambles on it. I know that, unfortunately I think it's Nia Jax yeah, clay thinks it's Nia Jax. I don't think he's so far off it could be.
Speaker 4I'm not saying that, that's not out of the realm.
Speaker 1It would just make sense for the storyline. Yeah, it's either heat or not heat, and she has heat, I guess. If I don't like her, so I can't decide. I didn't used to like Dom. So, whatever, now he's more over than God. Ooh, ooh Speaking of Dom.
Speaker 4During the Rumble pre-event, him and Penta got into it.
Speaker 1Oh, I've seen that Penta knocked his hat off. Yeah, Yo, Penta's shredded. I forget that. He is just like he is a freak he is forget that he is just like he is a freak.
Speaker 2He is so shredded also immediately my favorite wrestler. It's not even like I'm, just it's, I am, I am whatever.
Speaker 1No no, ko's my favorite smackdown, ko's like my favorite person. Okay, in wwe, like penta, like. As far as wrestling, I just want to watch him wrestle all the time it.
Speaker 4It's because of the paint and the mask combo. Yeah, he's got both Twofer.
Speaker 1I don't really have any surprise entrances.
Speaker 4Taco Twofer.
Speaker 1The women's. I feel like we've touched on those so much just randomly. Becky, Charlotte, Jordan, Jordan's not a surprise, right no? A bunch of NXT girls.
Speaker 4Yeah, because a lot of the girls are out.
Speaker 1I'm going to say Roxanne, yeah, roxanne Perez. Roxanne, turn on the red light. Roxanne, turn off the red light. This dude cannot be serious for five seconds. Roxanne, turn off the red light. Clay cannot be serious for five seconds. Turn off the red light, clay. He gets so mad because I'm never serious. It was the most serious moment. I'm like oh yeah, did your pants come down? Is she though? Is she though?
Speaker 4I think that was really loud. Clay you're right. I think there is going to be a lot of surprises from TNA just because half the women's roster is out.
Speaker 2Yeah.
Speaker 4I actually, before we started recording, I did see a video again of Dakota Kai get that missile drop kick and I didn't catch it. The first time when we watched it live, I thought it was just both boots in the chest but one boot in the chin, the other boot on the side of her head. So yeah, she is complete concussion protocol.
Speaker 1I think Jordan Grace is going to win. I wouldn't be mad at that. I can see Jordan Grace winning.
Speaker 5She could get a push, she's already going to be coming in hot anyways.
Speaker 1Why no Spin it?
Speaker 3All right. So I'm very much in the mood of working backwards. I think that's what I've been doing, working backwards, and the favorite is definitely Charlotte. That's what people think. I'm sure to a degree, but I don't know what you do if she wins, like she goes for Tiffy. Is that what you think? Wes yeah, but then what Does she win?
Speaker 4Is Tiffy.
Speaker 3John just gone, no way.
Speaker 4No, they're saying that she's going to have a more darker, more like her dad persona, as in like heel flare.
Speaker 1Really mean yeah, just drunk, and mean Doing planks in a bar. Touching people inappropriately.
Speaker 3I just think there's no.
Speaker 4Oh, I'm sorry. I was just saying they're saying she's going to be more of a heel.
Speaker 1Go ahead, Wayne.
Speaker 3I just don't think there's any way she wins.
Speaker 1The Rumble or.
Speaker 3The Rumble? Yeah, because her and Tiffany's great. I want to see it, but it's just not that time. They've not got a chance to build.
Speaker 1Yeah.
Speaker 3And if Charlotte does win the Rumble, then she's not going to do anything for the next until Mania to just feud with Tiffy the rumble. Then she's not gonna do anything for the next until mania to just feud with tiffy. You're right, and she's gonna lose. She's gonna win the rumble, then lucid tiffy. It's gonna make her look bad coming back off the injury. Yeah, I definitely think she's gonna be at mania, um, maybe like winning the chamber type thing. Uh, as far as winning the rumble, though, I think whoever does challenges tiffy for sure, and I'm thinking maybe Liv, liv, winning, because you want to think she's going to challenge Rhea and then she's going to challenge.
Speaker 3Tiffany, just because, to be different, we don't want to see Rhea live again, which I'm fine with. We don't want Rhea to live too. I don't know, I think that's the only way to get there, because that's this real live's not gonna happen at Mania again. I don't think it happened at Mania, dude, but no, I don't know. We just miss each other, I don't remember. But yeah, so I'm going more towards like a, a live, so I'm going more towards a Liv. Whoever wins gets paid the TV.
Speaker 4Do we think Alexis comes back? No, I don't think so. Yeah, you think the contract stuff's real.
Speaker 2Yeah, the contract stuff is real, she bad.
Speaker 1Monroe's not here, so we don't have an insider Monroe's our insider, okay, let's.
Speaker 3And also it gives live some, some, some, some gusto back something right.
Speaker 1Yeah, you're right, you're right you want to do final four, we can do final four. Who we think is going to be in the final? The final four? Women? Um, why? Who do you think your final four artists continue?
Speaker 3uh well, definitely Charlotte, but of course, because I picked her to win, I'm not beyond good. But uh, jade, I don't know if we get the reveal of who attacked Jade during the Rumble, but I mean that's definitely Naomi, right?
Speaker 1yeah, that could be Raw the next day.
Speaker 3It's definitely Naomi right um, so insert legend Jade Charlotte. Uh, Right, so insert legend Jade Charlotte.
Speaker 1Noah doesn't care, so we're going to skip him.
Speaker 5I'm just opening ears right now.
Speaker 1I know, bro Clay, you got your final four. I'm going to change mine up a little bit. I'm going to say Jade, charlotte, nia and Bianca.
Speaker 4Solid.
Speaker 1Yeah, that's good.
Speaker 2Nice.
Speaker 4I'm going to say Becky, Charlotte, Bianca and Jade, Solid yeah than. Jake Solid. Yeah, the only reason I'm not shitting on you for this, wayne, is I feel like they're going to start pushing Liv and Raquel as a tag team again.
Speaker 2Yeah, I can see that too Okay.
Speaker 4Because that keeps Raquel relevant, where she's just now come back.
Speaker 1Yeah, I think Raquel will be getting eliminated fifth and Liv could be in the top four. I thought Liv was going to get eliminated fifth.
Speaker 1I mean we're near the same page then I think Bianca, jade, charlotte um, I mean, I could honestly see Becky just because of that history there, but that's kind of where I'm at. But I think Jordan's going to win. But for Jordan to win, people have to take each other out. So it could be Jordan, grace, bianca, jade and Naomi in the final four, because those three have to take each other out, because Jordan doesn't have a feud with anybody, so she's not going to just come in and start pushing people around. I can see that, yeah, somebody has to do something. Either way, 20 minutes on the women's rumble is plenty. Next match the two out of three falls match. I'm super pumped for two out of three falls. I don't think we've had one in forever. Diy put on a show tonight. I think it'll be awesome. I got DIY winning though. Yeah, a tag two out of three is rare, right, wes?
Speaker 4yeah, really rare for that.
Speaker 1I've never seen one.
Speaker 4I don't think two out of three is three.
Speaker 1Usually singles match for sure when's the last time we had one, wayne?
Speaker 3definitely a lot in the older days, but more recently, wait no.
Speaker 1I thought somebody had one like 2023 Kurt. Angle used to have them all the time it was a few years back, but I don't think I've ever seen a tag team.
Speaker 4No Punk and.
Speaker 2Drew didn't do it.
Speaker 3No, you like a.
Speaker 1You like a tag team match In the Rumble? You think that spot could have been filled with something better.
Speaker 2No.
Speaker 5I think tag team matches Need their glory.
Speaker 1It's an interesting fact that this is the first Tag team match For the glory. It's an interesting fact that this is the first tag team match for the titles on a PLE in like two years.
Speaker 4It needs to happen.
Speaker 1Yeah, you think about all the big tag team matches were all like there was Cody and there was nobody for the titles.
Speaker 4It was throwaways.
Speaker 1It's because they keep losing them on Raw and SmackDown.
Speaker 4Yeah, but it needs to happen. Yeah, like Triple H is, you know he's rebranding it pretty much Like the tag team needs to be popular.
Speaker 1That match is going to be fire. By the way, I think that match is going to be like high flying, high spots, yeah, but I mean he's turned it on its head.
Speaker 4Yeah high spots. Yeah, he, but I mean he's, he's turned it on its head. Yeah, uh, because here for a long time there was too many tag teams and also no one cared diy wins dirty, everybody agree with that yeah wayne I disagree oh really
Speaker 3guns I could see guns it's their first mania yeah and I don't, I don't think they're done with this feud.
Speaker 4It's not Mania you know what I mean.
Speaker 3It's not Mania, you're right. It's their first big kill, so I think they'll do it and this shoot is definitely not done. Probably the two best tag teams there is right, yeah, in there right now.
Speaker 1They are. I mean, I guess the thing about the Machine Gun Kellys is.
Royal Rumble Speculation and Predictions
Speaker 2Don't you dare. I started that yeah.
Speaker 1Don't you do that.
Speaker 4Motor.
Speaker 1City Machine Gun Kelly, they're old, right, they're kind of old. Oh, they're old.
Speaker 3I mean Chomp is not a spring chicken.
Speaker 1No, that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 3Well, neither is Gargano, no, it's Triple H.
Speaker 1Yeah, that's Triple H, wayne, get your facts straight. I know my bad, I forgot. Does anybody pop for being stupid like R-Truth? It's crazy, I know it's crazy that he just pops all the time. I love it so much. I love it, it's perfect Underrated wrestler Did you?
Speaker 3see his Twitter post About the Triple H. It was a picture of Chomp. I said congratulations, triple H. I love it, dude.
Speaker 1When they were walking to the ring earlier I was like he's not wrong.
Speaker 2He looks like Triple H and Gargano acts like Shawn Michaels.
Speaker 4He's not totally wrong.
Speaker 1Calls him like Shawn Michaels. He's not totally wrong.
Speaker 3It's hilarious, hilarious. I love the guns. I watched OT&A when it was relevant. It was good. I've seen the guns get together. I'm a guns fan.
Speaker 1Yeah.
Speaker 4I know it. I do love the guns too. On top of that, it's like it's almost like watching the Hardee's if they were to stayed in shape and healthy.
Speaker 1You know what, wayne you? You turned me over on this because I was trying to figure out how pretty deadly fit into the situation.
Speaker 3And they should be gone. Oh, that's a bad take, I'm really I was trying to figure out how Pretty Deadly fit into the situation.
Speaker 1They don't. They should be gone. Oh, that's a bad take. I'm a big fan of them. I think they're really good. I think they're really good. What are you doing? Which one do you want? What do you want?
Speaker 4Something to boo him.
Speaker 1There you go. You got booed.
Speaker 3You got the boo bar, Wayne I think they're good, because I hate them so much? Oh, that's true, that's probably real.
Speaker 1But anyway, match is going to be good Predictions DIY rap. But here's what I was saying is that you kind of turned me over on it because they keep talking about Pretty Deadly helps them, they'll get a title shot. So I think they're not going to have the titles when Pretty Deadly helps them, like helps them, and they still lose, and then they just have a feud with Pretty Deadly for no titles.
Speaker 4That could work.
Speaker 1And Machine Gun Kelly's have the titles. I can see that, so you sold me on it. Done Mark Fingers in the air. There we are, penta. Yeah, it's Penta's thing. We weren't doing it first, but we did it. We didn't know I did it. It's a different part. Yeah, they don't matter about me. Y'all want to save, y'all want to do Cody KO.
Speaker 2No do the.
Speaker 3Rumble first.
Speaker 1Do Rumble first, then we'll do Cody KO. Yeah, okay, go ahead, wayne.
Speaker 3I'm going to do Cody KO, but I mean I got outvoted.
Speaker 1You got outvoted.
Speaker 2And you're not here.
Speaker 1This is a democracy. You're right, this is not a democracy.
Speaker 3I'm not saying it is not a democracy it's not, it's not.
Speaker 1It's not because, no matter what people voted.
Speaker 4I was going to say I was going to say we do the Rumble next, because I'm the boss, okay, all right.
Speaker 1Final boss, the final boss, oh yeah. He's just not going to be wrestling anymore, is he no?
Speaker 3That's what I want, because after that, after the Raw debut, he's just not going to be wrestling anymore, is he? No, that's what I want to happen. That's what I want to happen.
Speaker 1After the Raw debut he's just not going to wrestle anymore. No, you think he's going to wrestle anymore.
Speaker 5I'd like to see it, but I mean that Netflix premiere just kind of destroyed it.
Speaker 4Yeah, it destroyed that character.
Speaker 1Good podcasting Segway straight into the Rumble he could also win the rebels.
Speaker 5So I did see something online. I don't know if it was just like he could win the rumble challenge, cody, yeah, like I don't know if it's just like someone posting fantasy book and what they's like. You know he's the boss, like he could come in at 31 if he wants, right, that's, that's what that's what he said that's what, that's what somebody else said, that he was gonna come in 31.
Speaker 1you said that, no, that no Rhino did. Oh, rhino said that. Rhino said he thinks Final Boss is going to come in at 31 because he makes an executive move.
Speaker 3Yeah, I love that. I've been saying that for months. I would love for that to happen, but Netflix.
Speaker 1I just, I just don't think he's there, I don't think he's going to do it, but I, but I could see it, I don't either I actually honestly just don't know. Really, I really just don't know. I don't think so, but I don't know.
Speaker 3I think I just want a big shit heel. That's what I want.
Speaker 1Who do you guys?
Speaker 2think is one. Next is Manor Hill.
Speaker 1Is Punk no no, no, noah, who do you, I think, final 2.
Speaker 5You might have to come back to me. You might have to come back to me.
Speaker 1You think Punk comes in one. I think Final 2, oh, the first two.
Speaker 4I'm going to tell you they're not going to let, yeah, they're not going to let Punk be number one.
Speaker 1Oh, first two is Melo and Trick. Yeah that's what Clay thinks.
Speaker 4Yeah.
Speaker 1I think he's probably right.
Speaker 3Yeah, I like that, that's huge, I agree. Yeah, let Melo come out first.
Speaker 1Unless it's Melo and Andrade, and then Trick is free.
Speaker 4Oh my god, that might even be a better bar.
Speaker 3That's good, that's really good Melo and.
Speaker 2Andrade.
Speaker 3Sign me, that's good.
Speaker 1It's got to be Melo and Andrade, right, because after the match tonight too, so what time?
Speaker 4I'm sorry.
Speaker 2Melo just had a match with Jimmy.
Speaker 4What number is Matt Jeff coming out? I?
Speaker 2don't even know.
Speaker 3I don't think you can get.
Speaker 1Matt, do you? I don't think you can get Matt.
Speaker 2I think you can get, jeff, you don't think you'll get them both.
Speaker 1I don't think you'll get them both. We just signed a multi-year deal with I don't think I don't think the people care about matt. I just I just don't. I think they care a little bit about matt, but I think they care a lot about jeff. They care about matt when it's tag team they care about matt when it's tag team, but matt in a solo is not going to do anything for anybody, unless unless it's like 19 and 20 yes, I mean they're going to be together but the problem with that is there's so much time in between the other one coming out that it loses a little bit of All right, let me readjust that question.
Speaker 4What number do you think Jeff's coming out?
Speaker 119. 19. Yeah, I definitely think Jeff's coming out. I don't even think it's like. I don't think it's.
Speaker 4Jeff's going to be there. He was at the meet and greet.
Speaker 2He was at the meet and greet.
Speaker 4Is he going to be?
Speaker 1Enigma, or is he going to be OG, hardy Boy?
Speaker 4I would like to see him be OG Hardy Boy, but I think he's going to come out as the tree Willow.
Speaker 1Willow.
Speaker 5Willow, he has been talking about bringing that back.
Speaker 4I wouldn't be mad.
Speaker 3Here's a question Go ahead, does that take away from Joe Hendry by having Jeff no?
Speaker 1No, and why? Because I believe in Joe Hendry.
Speaker 4Well, first, they've made a big deal with combining with TNA Two half the roster's out, so they're going to have a lot of TNA people in that too.
Speaker 1Yeah, question, I can see it. Do it. Does he come out in the feigned face paint?
Speaker 4No, I think that was a one and done.
Speaker 3Yeah.
Speaker 4I think he'll come out in the willow because of the fiend, because he said he's got a new mask from the same people who did fiend stuff okay um, but I think the the face paint with fiend was a one and done ode to him during a match, like I don't think he'll do that again okay, that's just my opinion, I agree.
Speaker 1So we got some surprises out of the way. Everybody thinks Joe right, absolutely, I think Phoenix.
Speaker 2Yeah, yeah, clay thinks.
Speaker 1Ray Phoenix. I could absolutely see Ray Phoenix. Osmosis Jones, I actually think Wayne's right, I actually think Odyssey Jones yeah. I think I actually think no right. I actually think Odyssey Jones.
Speaker 4Yeah, I think. I actually think no, omos, omos, omos, he's coming out, you know that's so funny.
Speaker 1Me and Noah just said today we were sitting there watching. I was like man. I'm pretty sure Omos is going to be in it because he gave his titles up. Yeah.
Speaker 4He said he was going back to WWE.
Speaker 5And then, along with Jeff Hardy, he was at the meet and greets too today.
Speaker 3I really want Breaker to eat him. I don't know what to happen, big E's coming back.
Speaker 1Yeah, wes cried.
Speaker 3Yeah, Clay's pretty sure Big E's going to come in and eliminate New Day.
Speaker 1Yeah, clay's got all kinds of booking going on. Miz Miz is going to be in it, right? Yeah, he'll be in it. Karrion is probably going to eliminate a lot of people being there a long time what about the white six?
Speaker 4yeah, I think they're dead. One of them's out, I don't know which one it is, but that's why they're out there.
Speaker 1It's got to be Gacy rumor has it, it's Gacy it's got to be Gacy or the only two wrestlers. There's only two wrestlers in the group, but one of them I know what that they said.
Speaker 4That's why it was. It was because the lexibliss thing fell through with the contract. Well, they're dead now and one of them uh, one of them got hurt, so that's why they moved into SmackDown they're not really doing anything with them.
Speaker 1yet If they don't show up at Rumble, they're pretty dead. Do you think Nikki Cross will be in the women's?
Speaker 2I don't think so. I think it'd be crazy. I think it'd be crazy for her to come out by herself.
Speaker 3But I mean she might. Are they still yet to be on the PLE? They might not be on one yet? Not even an appearance. No, not even an appearance.
Speaker 4No.
Speaker 3Not at all. No, which a lot of people isn't?
Speaker 5Yeah. Something that big you would think they should be.
Speaker 4They pushed that hard though, this year I got a good one. I got a good one Goldberg.
Speaker 1Oh, that's real, that's real.
Speaker 4I know he's coming back. He's doing stem cells right now.
Speaker 1Gilbert, I hate everything about it. Yeah, no, nobody.
Speaker 2What do you think? What?
Speaker 1fans want Goldberg, Like I don't understand why we're putting Goldberg Just his son. There's no fans that want Goldberg. I've never talked to anyone who wants Goldberg in a match.
Speaker 4Oh, I know, rumor is Rumor has it. Scott Steiner's son is debuting.
Speaker 1Yeah, because his college career is done.
Speaker 4Yeah.
Speaker 1It works out perfect, it would make sense.
Speaker 4They said that he's going to debut, which would be awesome, because then we'd get a new H Steiner cousin tag team.
Speaker 3Do they tag or feud?
Speaker 5It's WWE. Both's going to happen. Both's going to happen.
Speaker 1Yeah, you're right, he's right.
Speaker 5A couple times actually.
Speaker 1Yeah, that'll be killer. That'll be killer. Final four yeah, do a final four. Clay, you want to hit it first? Yeah, yeah, I'll do it. Punk Cena, drew and Roman solid. I like it.
Speaker 4I'm uh. I'm gonna say Punk Roman and Cena, not Drew. I'm gonna say Solo Punk Roman and Cena, Not Drew. I'm going to say Solo Because Solo's dropped so for him to come back.
Speaker 1I can see Jacob making it far too.
Speaker 4Yeah, I can see Jacob. I was just saying because Solo just left, so I feel like it's a little bit quiet before the storm. So for him to return it's going to pop.
Speaker 1But I did say today that I think Jacob Will eliminate the most people. I think it'll be like a Brock Lesnar. I think Jacob's coming in one, or he could come in one, and he lasts the whole time.
Speaker 4I think that or they're all going to team up and flip him over like time. I think that, or they're all going to team up and flip them over like Omos.
Speaker 1I think, yeah, you go for your final four.
Speaker 2I'll do mine. I did mine. Oh, okay, sorry, why not?
Speaker 3First a question Do we know the order of the matches? It's very relevant.
Speaker 1We don't know yet, I don't know, we don't know yet, we don't know if the women's Rumble's first and then, I assume, the ladder match, and then the men's Rumble and then Cody. I think, men's Rumble should be.
Speaker 4I think Rumble will close.
Speaker 1Rumble could close. Like Wayne said, though Wayne's right, it completely matters, because if Rumble closes, it's going to be a surprise winner, and if Rumble doesn't close, it's going to be somebody you expect. True, Because something's got to happen.
Speaker 3I want to go on the assumption that the Rumble is going to be last and with that my final four is going to be probably Punk. Maybe Rollins would be interesting Sami Zayn and Kevin Owens.
Wrestling Predictions and Speculation
Speaker 1So Kevin Owens in the final four. So he's going to be.
Speaker 3He's going to lose. He's going to lose in the end of the Rumble. He's going to lose the code in the end of the Rumble to go again.
Speaker 1So, if that's my, prediction If the Rumble is the closing match, that's bold, I got Dom winning my boy.
Speaker 2I'm just a mark, but.
Speaker 1I could care less. So who do you think is in the final four? Then Final four Finn, dom, come on, if we have the same final four, I might leave. I don't know. Roman and Punk, you mean to tell you mine? Yeah, I think it's Dom and Finn and Jacob and Solo. No, I'm telling you, I think it's all new blood. I think it's going to be all new blood. And you know who I think wins? I think Dom wins. Yeah, baby, I've seen the list.
Speaker 4I know you've seen the list.
Speaker 1Follow the figs. I think Dom wins.
Speaker 4Follow the figs I think dom wins follow the figs. I'm just following the line that I see who's harder bro who is harder than dom punk?
Speaker 1yeah, punk punk's god right, like punk is like, but it punk punk is. If punk doesn't win, punk is so easy to say. Punk is going to win, though, because we all just that's what everybody's expecting Is Punk to win.
Speaker 4Because Punk should win. Well, I told you my argument. With that, it's AEW vs AEW at WrestleMania. The four years that Punk and Cody Were together at AEW the one match that everybody Screamed for, and Tony wouldn't even let them. The four years that Punk and Cody were together at AEW the one match that everybody screamed for and Tony wouldn't even let them interact with the general was. Punk and Cody.
Speaker 1And here's why I agree with you even more on that. Okay, wwe for the last six months has been absolutely on purpose, sticking it to AEW, absolutely on purpose. It's not even like they ramp up NXT. They made NXT look like AEW, but better they steal their wrestlers. Aew wanted TNA, they wanted TNA so bad, they screwed that up so bad too.
Speaker 1They messed it up so bad and WWE was like we'll take it instead that sounds great. And they didn't buy it. They did it right, tony Khan, I so bad too, dude. They messed it up so bad. Wwe was like we'll take it instead. That sounds, that sounds great. Yeah, and they didn't buy it. They did it right, like tony khan, I think, went into it wanting to buy it and and paul did it right or I guess it's tko board did it right that they just signed a deal with them and not just bought them.
Speaker 4They will eventually absorb them, I think but I don't think it'll be like ecw, I don't think. I don't think they'll absorb them, I think, but I don't think it'll be like ECW. I don't think they'll absorb them. Just because everyone is loving, the whole back and forth.
Speaker 1Yeah, it's crazy.
Speaker 4It's like because you never know if someone's going to pop up.
Speaker 1We got JBL and William Regal all over the place, yeah that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 4It's like they can jump again. Jbl plays three different characters. It's just like it's the old days. It really does. It's the old days with all of them Like, oh, we're going to go watch this indie event. Oh, wait a minute, there's a WWE JBL, what the hell you know? Like it's the excitement again.
Speaker 1Of territories.
Speaker 4You never know who's going to show up with territory and they're doing it right. Kind of like making new age territories.
Speaker 5WWE doing like just going through the forbidden door, you know is just, it's the same thing right, me too, I mean it's not seeing any company do it, but seeing WWE do.
Speaker 1It is just, I agree, you know, at one point we thought that never happened. Finger on the pulse, yeah.
Speaker 4I think that forbidden door with AEW is going to come to a close soon because we talked about that deal, the NJPW thing. Yeah, where they combined all of.
Speaker 1New Japan. That new owner is not going to do it. He's off it, he's not going to be with them. You know what we're talking about, wayne. Yeah, njpw is not NJPW anymore, it's New Japan, world World Organization or something.
Speaker 4Because they've combined all of Japan's NGs into one.
Speaker 5I didn't even know that.
Speaker 2Yes, lit hot take.
Speaker 1Going back to the women's rumble, surprise entrant Britt Breaker. No, why don't you think that Wes? Tell me why you might know. You might actually know why.
Speaker 4Nobody wants her. Maybe not think that, west. Tell me why you might know, you might actually know why nobody wants her, even maybe not yeah maybe not so in in, it's just from she popped, though she popped, but at the same time it's uh or sky blue sky blue is more of a reality than brit breaker. Just because we've everybody's heard too much bad stuff about Brit.
Speaker 1I need all cameras behind Sky Blue, no cameras in front of her. That was AW Talk.
Speaker 3That's all the AW Talk.
Speaker 1We're going to do Okay, so we got the rumble out of the way. Then Everybody's pretty much consistent. Oh, wino, didn't get Wino. Okay, I'm sorry, wino, you're not here. I forget about you. Go ahead and go off.
Royal Rumble and Ladder Match Speculation
Speaker 3It's fine, all right. So I want to actually meet my top four, because I forgot about Roman Zane, ko, roman Punk Because you got the Roman Punk interaction. Now you have KO. Because he's going to lose to Cody, just a given. Now my winner is going to be Sami Zayn. Here's why Listen, hold on, let me cook. We're cooking, hold on.
Speaker 4You're cooking or you're clicking bait.
Speaker 3Because I think we get to. I love the idea of Punk. Cody Love it. I think there's plenty of time to do it. I think we get to Roman Punk and Mania. They can have a little smosh in the final four Smosh.
Speaker 3I think Sammy wins. I think Sammy wins. And you're going to think he's going to challenge Gunther because he beat Gunther, but in reality he's going to challenge Cody, or no, I'm sorry, in reality he's going to challenge Cody Because of the whole KO three-way thing that's going on where you think Sammy's going to try to heal and all that stuff.
Speaker 3And KO's going to get mad because Sammy's challenging Cody to try to do it and he couldn't do it. Did that come through the mic? It's a better storyline. It's a better storyline. It's a better dynamic you think it's a better dynamic. I do. It's got layers, it's like an onion. Oh it's like parfait, because if Sammy wins, he's going to challenge Cody when it comes to Gunther. He beat Gunther.
Speaker 2So you know you can beat.
Speaker 3Gunther. He's not going to want Sammy to do it, because he wants to beat Cody and he couldn't do it and the other almost still couldn't do it and that's going to lead to KO.
Speaker 1I think we're giving the whole show too much credit. I think Punk's going to win. I think Punk's going to win.
Speaker 3I forgot about Cena too, by the way.
Speaker 1Cena's not going to win because Cena's already been on the. Cena is on an advertisement poster for Elimination.
Speaker 3Chamber, I think Going a little bit further with what I said, hey come back, did you hear? Me he challenges Cody at Mania. I don't know. Hold on, wait, what did you say?
Speaker 1Cena was on the poster for Elimination Chamber.
Speaker 3Right. So he wins Elimination Chamber and challenges Gunther, and then Gunther eats him, and then Zane wins and challenges Cody.
Speaker 1That's my prediction You're such a fantasy booker, mark, do me a favor, wayne. Hey, do me a favor. Okay, look at your hand. Okay, look down at your hand. Take your pointer finger and touch your thumb. Okay, okay, and that should leave your other three fingers straight up in the air. Okay, go ahead and lift those high up in the air. Okay, right, and then go ahead and just flip it straight down.
Speaker 4Okay, make that big m, because you mark son uh, sounds like you might need to get some tinfoil out too yeah, uh, no, it's good, that's what we're here for.
Speaker 1We're here for that booking. Okay, let's get to where we all want to get to. Let's get to the ladder match.
Speaker 4Can I say something about that? Do it. Actually, it's a question who's going to be busted open first, busted Busted.
Speaker 1I think Cody shows color before Kevin does, because Cody is Dusty Rhodes' son. Also he's got more scar tissue.
Speaker 4I mean with that blonde hair. The blood looks so good.
Speaker 1Oh yeah, I've never seen Kevin busted open. I mean, I've never seen Kevin Owens, I've seen Kevin Skeen.
Speaker 4Yeah, kevin Owens busted open.
Speaker 3This conversation just got weird. All right, why busted open? Let's bust open podcast you made it weird.
Speaker 1Yeah, I don't know you're making it weird. Nobody else is weird. Uh, why? No, maybe I'm just weird yo. Um, who you think is busted open first?
Speaker 3oh, oh, definitely Cody, because he's busted open. Yeah, that's what I think too.
Speaker 1If there's blood, it's Cody's.
Speaker 3Hey, there will be blood.
Speaker 4Another question you think Dustin is going to show up?
Speaker 5No way he's got a title. He just signed back with AEW. Damn. Yeah, he's got a title.
Speaker 1Oh, hold on, Do I have a record scratch here? I don't have a record scratch, yeah, there is what's that? Ricky.
Speaker 3Starks.
Speaker 4Ricky.
Speaker 1Starks will show up. Ricky Starks is going to be in the Rumble for sure.
Speaker 4And then he's going to be Cody's main man.
Speaker 1Maybe they might not touch him because they're friends. Usually, when people are friends, they don't touch him.
Speaker 4I don't touch them.
Speaker 1I don't know either way, ricky stark is gonna be there. Yeah, ricky stark's yeah absolutely rick stark um I don't know about ray phoenix or not, because I don't either limbo who knows, I ain't really, I ain't saying that much yet either way to be awesome he posted that picture in a straight jacket in in like a jail, so I don't think we're ready for ray, because if you bring back ray, you have to, you have to put him with Lucha Brothers, and we don't want. Penta needs a singles domination run Build.
Speaker 1Do whatever with him. People don't even know who he is and they're excited about him. Put a mask on. He's the only real Luchador left in WWE, Like Rey Mysterio. Rey Mysterio is so old he can't do 619 anymore. Anyway, let's go back to this. Okay, ladder match. Why did Kevin Owens take the wing title tonight? I don't understand. That was so confusing to me. I was like are they both not going to be there then?
Speaker 5Did they just grab the one? I feel like it's just because Kevin does what he wants.
Speaker 1It is, but I don't understand the big picture.
Speaker 5I couldn't give you an explanation.
Speaker 1That rack is made for two belts. The whole thing was like. It looks like the original ladder match With the two intercontinental belts up there Because one of them was fake. It was the whole thing, and then Kevin taking that one really confused me, but that's all I wanted to say. Now I don't know if Wayne knows what I'm talking about.
Speaker 5Unless something happens Tomorrow, pre-show or something.
Speaker 1Yeah, it's rare that anything Major happens on pre-show, or not even that but like there in the day, maybe too. Something could have happened already. While we're sitting here after SmackDown, that happens a lot, that does happen.
Speaker 4Luke actually showed me something earlier too. Man, like it's got the cogs turning, because I don't know if it's real or not, but Ryback keeps posting videos.
Speaker 1He told me in the car. He said Ryback has been working out and saying what am I working out for?
Speaker 4Yeah, he keeps posting those videos of him working out.
Speaker 1You think about Ryback Clay?
Speaker 4Every caption says what am I working out?
Speaker 1for I didn't really watch him Right. You know who it is, though. Yeah, I know who he every year he teases this right, he does. Yeah, I think he does. It's it's clickbait. Yeah, it's clickbait yeah but, I mean after twitter voted him to retire I think there's some other, uh, influencers who could be in it. No joke, let me tell you who I think bad bunny bad bunny could be because nobody's talked about him, but I I legitimately think um what culture could be in it, simon, that would be bad I legitimately think simon could be in it.
Speaker 1I'd mark out for that right.
Speaker 4Also, would not be super surprised if matt cardona was in it I don't see that uh-huh what pat, you think pat's gonna be in it again I don't think pat's in wrestling shape. He don't look like he's in wrestling, no but he was in wrestling shape last time and he just got in and got out. Yeah, that's what I mean. I mean, do you think they're going to?
Speaker 1take that spot like the Jerry the King Lawler time they did that. I hate when they take that spot for somebody.
Speaker 5I might have just misunderstood what Pat was saying on the kickoff earlier, but he mentioned something about that. Aj Hawk, dude, that's on his, that's on his show.
Speaker 1Oh, he mentioned about AJ Hawk.
Speaker 5I missed the whole part, but that don't know, that would make so much sense to me that would make so
Speaker 1much sense AJ Hawk would come in and do that.
Speaker 4Yeah.
Speaker 1Yeah, he gives off wrestler vibes.
Speaker 4Booker T.
Speaker 1Booker T, he was in it. Yeah, but they did that, didn't they? Yeah man, yeah man.
Speaker 5He was awful by the way.
Speaker 1Hey, clay, yeah, this is your fault. We're off track. So bad, my bad hey you gotta, you gotta bring us, you gotta bring us back in. You're the bringer back in her uh, bring it back down uh, I'm excited about ladder match with two real wrestlers in it, like two. I think it's gonna be awesome. I think there's gonna be some. I'm excited to see just a two-person ladder match too, because the last ladder matches that we've had it's all been, have been all tags.
Speaker 1Or you think randy shows up or is he in the rumble?
Speaker 4randy's in the rumble for sure, I think randy shows up during the ladder match you think so.
Speaker 1It depends on be both. Like wayne said, it depends on the.
Speaker 4I think it depends on where the card lays yeah, yeah, no, you're up there, and wayne's absolutely right.
Speaker 1I usually don't say that so yeah, let's get a, let's get a. West Wes complimented you, wayne. I've never seen that happen.
Speaker 3He's on the shit when Sami Zayn wins. Sorry for cussing.
Speaker 1That's true. Sorry for cussing. Maybe Johnny Knoxville should put him in a mousetrap.
Speaker 4Oh my God, Don't do that.
Speaker 1But hey, it actually sucked. It was awesome at the same time.
Speaker 4KO has wore that shirt twice.
Speaker 1The Sami Zayn Forever shirt the Sami Zayn Forever shirt with the heart I love it.
Speaker 3Tell me, how interesting would it be to have that dynamic when his buddy he couldn't do it but his buddy's going to do it.
Speaker 4Wayne is so pushing this.
Speaker 3I mean, it's what's going to happen, man.
Speaker 1I think this match is going to be awesome. I really really do think this match is going to be awesome. I think we're in for it. I think they're going to put on a show. I think somebody's getting hurt.
Speaker 4I think somebody's getting hurt a little bit anyway.
Speaker 1I think there's going to be a super cutter off the top of the ladder. It's going to be something nuts. It's going to be something nuts, I don't think that's going to happen. What about a package that, uh, that happened in roh on the ladder? Is that what you?
Speaker 2see, oh yeah, here's what I think.
Speaker 1No is that's. That's where I was at with it. I think we're gonna have a triple ladder, ladder on ladder. Have you know what we're talking about, wayne? Have you ever seen the, the package, the scheme package, pile driver on the ladder.
Speaker 5It might have been like yeah, final battle.
Speaker 1Yeah, that I could see that happening right, because they did that spot last year in that in the money in the bank or in the tag team match for the belts well, andrada and carmelo did a spot on the ladder right that's what I'm saying, yeah, yeah and money in the bank and cody and k, I'll give it all. I think they'll do it. Oh yeah, but so does anybody have anything else on the match before we get to the prediction of the winner?
Speaker 5Do we think there's any interferences? Do you think it's going to be just a solid match?
Speaker 1It's got to be Randy. It depends on the placement. It's got to be Randy if it's a main event, Okay. So we're going to say who you think is going to say who you think is going to win and say whether you think they're going to win clean or dirty Wayne. I'm going to let you go first, Is that okay?
Speaker 3That's fine Okay.
Speaker 1Who do you think is going to win this match?
Speaker 3Cody, cody, and there's definitely going to be shenanigans.
Speaker 1Right Potentially KO getting screwed, ko getting screwed Right no.
Cody's Heel Turn Speculation
Speaker 5No, I probably have to agree with that. Yeah, because I for one. I just I don't see him taking the title off cody at all, for sure not yet, so he's he's for sure got the win clay's on to something there, not yet, at least. Yeah, I mean in terms of how the finish goes. Yeah, I don't know. I I could see cody. Cody has to win, dirty right see.
Speaker 1Cody. Cody has to win dirty right. If he wins, he has to win dirty, it's going to be borderline questionable dirty. Questionable, dirty like the chair was.
Speaker 4Yeah, it's going to be. I'm telling you they're pushing him.
Speaker 1Kevin is right.
Speaker 4Homelander.
Speaker 1Yeah, I don't think we're ready, though I think that's it.
Speaker 2I think that's ready, though. I think that's it. I think that's heel.
Speaker 1Cody, we're just now starting to dislike Cody. I'm not saying it's going to be complete. I'm saying that's why it's going to be.
Speaker 4It is You're going to be like well, it looked dirty, but I don't think it was. It was kind of like that border. He's right on the line, so it's going to be like a little glimpse of him.
Speaker 1I think Cody definitely wins. But looking back at first main event looked like he won. Well, he did win dirty because there was no ref Crossroads him on the chair. Cody wins dirty.
Speaker 4Yeah, but you know what? No one would have noticed if Ventura didn't bitch about it. Sorry for that.
Speaker 1So I think Cody wins dirty, but I believe Kevin is still right.
Speaker 4And I also think that's going to happen more and more.
Speaker 1What.
Speaker 4Is Cody winning? A little bit dirtier and a little bit dirtier every time.
Speaker 1Yeah, I do too. I do too. He's going to do something dirty every time.
Speaker 4Yeah, and it's going to get worse and worse and worse.
Speaker 1And then it's going to bore the fans. I think we're going to get Hill Cody.
Speaker 4Yeah, then it's going to be Scorchters Black suit, cody, what?
Speaker 3Wayne, I agree, we've got to build the horse. We've got to build the horseman somehow. He needs to get dirty. Got to build the horseman somehow.
Speaker 1We need to get dirty Got to build. The horseman Got to build the horseman. Got to get there. I mean, who's to say that the horseman has to be four men or four women? Who's to say that Charlotte can't be in the four horsemen? It'd be like Charlotte and Cody. You know what I?
Speaker 2mean.
Speaker 1That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 5Hey, I'd like to point out I just want everybody to know that.
Speaker 1Arne.
Speaker 5Anderson's boy still wrestles for TNA. That's my long lost cousin.
Speaker 1You know that Arne Anderson also looks like. He's in phenomenal shape.
Speaker 5He can still drop a spine buster.
Speaker 1That's what I'm saying I think he could come in the round. I would love it.
Speaker 5I think he could be there the Rumble. I would love it. Yeah, I think he could be there Wes.
Speaker 1I'm just saying whenever Cody turns heel, your boys are going to be so depressed.
Speaker 4I don't know, man, I think Lucas will kind of like it. I'm talking about Colt I think he'll appreciate it one day.
Speaker 1I think girls will cry. I think little girls that love Cody Rhodes are going to cry because he's going to be so mean. If you watch Bullet Club shit, he's so mean, don't get me started. He's so mean. Listen, I have hopes. Right, I have hopes because people are in WWE, like Tama and Cody are both in WWE. I was like I have hopes for that At some point, when Judgment Day's done and Bloodline's done, I'd like to see Tama and Finn, but doesn't AEW have Bullet Club rights?
Speaker 5though. Yeah, wwe, they still own the club, or anything like that.
Speaker 1Bullet team.
Speaker 4You know who else is part of Bullet Club, and it's Cody's best friend, stephen Amell. West's obsessed with Stephen Amell no Wes is obsessed with Stephen Amell.
Speaker 5It's Green Arrow baby After watching Heels.
Speaker 1That's what I'm obsessed with. What one?
Speaker 3On the whole bullet clip thing and they didn't have the rights. You know what WWE does have the rights to Just saying Wolfpack. Nwo, nwo and Jeremy General, too sweet Wolfpack, nwo, too sweet Wolfpack With the mass destruction.
Wrestling Figures and Rumble Speculation
Speaker 1Boys, you'd see a whole new version of me. If Wolfpack comes back, I'll lose my mind. I'll lose my mind If we get Wolfpack hey. You need to be really good in Wolfpack.
Speaker 4Brom Breaker.
Speaker 1Yeah, and the dude who literally wears Wolfpack gear Jacob Fatu, he wears Wolfpack gear. Who else?
Speaker 4wears Wolfpack gear.
Speaker 1Kevin Nash.
Speaker 4Damien Priest.
Speaker 1He wears purple or red dude the blood, damien Priest. He wears purple, wore red dude the blood. If we're going that way, though, that's just people honoring Scott Hall yeah, because Scott Hall trained him yeah, scott Hall's.
Speaker 4He looks like Scott Hall that's what kills me, though, is he doesn't do the surfer walk, no more oh right, well, penta does it. I know, but before Penta even came back, he didn't do it.
Speaker 1We talked about Penta's move.
Speaker 4Yo the Penta Bomb or the Sacrifice.
Speaker 1The Sacrifice is cool. That's so original to me, I think. Have you seen that the Sacrifice? You didn't know it.
Speaker 5Like the pump handle, slam the arm bar.
Speaker 1Oh, yeah, yeah the arm breaker, Like puts them on the arm and flips their arm back. I do just want to ask this.
Speaker 4Gosh, that is nasty. Have y'all known about Penta, prior WWE? Yeah yeah, death matches. Yeah Him and Chelsea.
Speaker 1So I've been saying forever that I need him and Chelsea to have just not like an interact, not like a fight or anything, just interaction. I want them to walk by each other backstage and just look at each other. I think that would be awesome.
Speaker 5We'd get a holy crap moment. You also got to think they've added intergender matches back in the new game.
Speaker 1I know that makes me think that they're going to do that. What makes me think they're going to do it is that for sure, and it's just going to come down to I don't know. I thought that was going to be Rhea and Dom. I thought we were going to get it with Rhea and Dom. I thought like they were going to have a match. But I mean, either way, what did you say, wayne? I felt your head.
Speaker 2I felt your heavy breathing. What, what about? I felt your heavy breathing. What you?
Speaker 4felt what?
Speaker 1What is it, Wayne? I hate you.
Speaker 3The rumor is that Rhea is going to be in the men's trouble. I think it's stupid because she's you know She'd be in both.
Speaker 4She'd be on China.
Speaker 1Nah, I did that though.
Speaker 5Nah, I did that and China did that, so what would it even benefit?
Speaker 3It wouldn't do anything for anybody. It wouldn't.
Speaker 1She challenged Gunther.
Speaker 5I mean it might get a small pop, but she went and challenged Gunther.
Speaker 1KO's not ready to win, even though I want KO to win. I think Cody's going to win dirtier than normal. I think you think KO walks off with a Wayne Deagle belt even though he lost. No, no, no, I think triple I don't think so.
Speaker 4It's just a question.
Speaker 1I think he'll take it.
Speaker 4Or we get a new belt.
Speaker 1Or we get a new belt. Yeah, that's real. I think we have too many.
Speaker 4I think he means like a combined yeah because the wing is like the old belt that he carries I'm talking about. They're going to combine those belts into one because they are the same belt. It's just old and new.
Speaker 1Okay, so Cody, cody's the winner. Dirty Right Wayne.
Speaker 4Wayne.
Speaker 1Cody's winner Dirty. Okay, so that's been Royal rumble preview. Right, yeah, we're going to do. I just want to mention Follow the Figs. The ultimates that got announced that are coming out are Finn Solo, damien and Dom. Dom, that's the ones that are coming out. Did I mention Dom? The female figures? Charlotte's got two coming out in the next two months. Rhea's got an ultimate, but Rhea's always going to have figures because Rhea's always going to be great.
Speaker 1I think, the Charlotte ones are really important. I think the Charlotte figures matter and I know this sounds like just bullshit from a wrestling figure collector. But the math checks out. I'm telling you, don't it west the math checks out, always checks out. The figures that they announce. When they announce them, those wrestlers usually get a run man. It's almost almost always did gunther gunther, gunther's gunther's figure came out. Gunther's elite and basic came out before he won the title, and then he won the title and then his ultimate came out.
Speaker 4It's a lot more real than Steiner Math.
Speaker 1Yeah, they know what they're doing. It's obviously good marketing. You know what I mean. They just put them out. It makes sense. You want to see this person, you want their figure. I told y'all today that I think they moved Damien to SmackDown so he can get the US title from she. Yeah, yeah, oh, have we said Alistair Black?
Speaker 4Nope, no, we didn't.
Speaker 1That's why Zelina Vega got moved to SmackDown. She definitely. Alistair is one of those 100% in the Rumble, yeah.
Speaker 2Yeah, 100% in the Rumble, yeah, yeah, 100% in the.
Speaker 1Rumble.
Speaker 4He's making his debut in the Rumble.
Speaker 1I don't know his music so I'm not sure I'm going to know I don't think so.
Speaker 4It's going to be something different.
Speaker 1Yeah, he's going to be Malachi, right.
Speaker 4No, he'll be Alistair, alistair.
Speaker 1Yeah, right, right, right, he yeah. Did you think that Wayne 100% Alistair's there?
Speaker 3I think it's too soon. I bet he's in some con BS. I don't think he can.
Speaker 1The only reason I think he is is because they moved Zelina quickly. Yeah, they did. They moved her for no reason. I think that means they're trying to split LWO up.
Speaker 3That was the crime, baby. I obviously don't know the difference between LWO and the other guys LDF?
Speaker 1Yeah, I don't know, that's how I feel about the figures. Anyway, I really have the only input on that.
Speaker 4No, I agree with you with that.
Speaker 1I know, I know, I want Dom to win, you know what I haven't seen is a lot of Braun Breaker figures. There's not a lot. There's the one that's out, but that's the NXT one.
Speaker 4That's why I'm thinking he's going to lose it. I think he'll lose it too.
Speaker 1And that's not me trying to shit on no no, you've come around to bond a little bit, you, yeah, you've turned over on him a little bit.
Speaker 2That's just him, and penta's about to feud too yeah, p and penta will be awesome.
Speaker 1um, yeah, that'd be great. Uh, oh, you want to talk about Go, I think, ron Pinta, okay, I think.
Speaker 4That's it, that's it. That's all you got. I said Dom Finn, dom Finn.
Speaker 1Yeah, I think Dom Finn, Because that's got to happen. Yeah, finn's definitely coming back too. He was the Knicks game the other night, he's fine. Oh yeah, he was yeah he's definitely coming back too.
Speaker 4He was the Knicks game the other night.
Speaker 1He's fine. Oh yeah, he was. Yeah, he's fine, okay. So I'm going to ask everybody here Work or shoot. Okay, corey Graves, shoot.
Speaker 5Yeah, At first I thought maybe a work, but it's a shoot yeah.
Speaker 1What do you think, Wayne Work?
Speaker 3Really Gosh Wayne be a work. But me too it's a shoot and we think way work really gosh, why?
Speaker 1why do you think I really do, I want you to explain.
Speaker 3I'm interested really. That's why I don't know. It just feels like it should be.
Speaker 1I would book it like that well, the only reason I don't think it is is because they've not telegraphed it. Nope, wwe telegraph shit. If they're talking about it a bunch, that means it's probably a work.
Speaker 4Yeah, there's only one person that has mentioned it in the WWE universe and it wasn't on the show. It was Booker T.
Speaker 1Yeah, he's crazy though.
Speaker 4No he tweeted about it, and it wasn't even that. It was like seriousness he was was just like you. Keep your you. You keep your family and your personal opinions out of your work yeah, I think I might have saw that I think it's a shoot
Speaker 1I think I think he was, I think he was gonna get in trouble. I think paul got in his ear and was like hey man, if you want to blow this, you can blow it that's fine's fine.
Speaker 5And he also went back and deleted that one tweet he posted too.
Speaker 1He deleted the tweet and then he said the really default thing on the show. It was like I love being here. Everybody's awesome. He didn't mention it. They've never brought it up. Nobody's ever brought it up. It's dead, it's buried. I don't about him, but I love him oh.
Speaker 2I love Corey.
Speaker 1Graves. I think he's great. I think what he thinks is a downgrade is not really a downgrade Like NXT. Okay, it's a little bit of a downgrade Ten years ago.
Speaker 4Right, but it's not really that much of a downgrade, but NXT needs commentators, because I have.
Speaker 1I agree Booker T. I think Corey Graves is going to be spectacular there. I think he'll be great.
Speaker 4there you almost said Devin Booker.
Speaker 1Yeah, yeah. So that's been work or shoot.
Speaker 3Okay, so here's why I think it's a bit of a work. First of all, it's really crappy the way it happened, like you know, netflix, then see you tomorrow, I think. Do you think that? I mean we, everybody knew pat was coming back after football, right, yeah, so why would they not have what? Why is cody cody cory such an idiot to not realize that?
Speaker 1He should have known this forever ago that Pat greater than signed Cory.
Speaker 2Graves.
Speaker 3Right, I mean it's obvious, you're just here and tried the football guy.
Speaker 1Yeah, you're right, I just thought you knew about it.
Speaker 3And if it wasn't a work?
Speaker 1I think it's a shoot that will become a work. Pat sells tickets and Cory Graves does not sell tickets. Cory Graves is good, but nobody comes for cory graves people come to shows for pat mcafee like it's.
Speaker 1That's just the way it is 100 um yeah, I'm excited, for I'm just as excited about raw monday as I am about rumble. I think raw monday will be popping like it'd going to be lit. Something awesome is going to happen. It's always the Monday after. Rumble is always awesome. Yeah, I mean, what did we touch on, wayne? You got anything else you want to touch on? Oh, we need to put some respect, though. I think we need to put some respect on New Day, because the heel work they are doing is awesome. It's awesome. I also think we need to put respect on Michio. We did that, though. I think I might have done that. Okay, yeah, I think I might have done that, because I said that to you, but then I remembered that I think I did that on an episode.
Speaker 4She's great. She's underrated.
Speaker 1I think I mentioned putting respect on somebody, but I can't remember yeah, I can't remember either, but new days who I was thinking specifically? Yeah, and also was pointed out to me and I didn't realize the reason they're wearing jeans. We're putting that they're not in the locker room.
Speaker 4It's because they can't get the locker room in the locker room, baby wow I didn't realize that.
Speaker 1Wes pointed it out to me and I was like dude, that's sick. I love their work, I love what they're doing. I think Big E will come back.
Speaker 2I think Big E's actually cleared, I guess.
Speaker 1Put respect on Penta. Yeah, we'll do that later.
Speaker 2We all put respect on Penta, we're all in love with him.
Speaker 1Anyway, I love him. I love his mask. I love the secondary mask that he wore. I don't know if everybody knows this or not. I really like wrestlers that wear masks.
Speaker 3So basically he gets respect because he has a mask. Hey, wayne.
Speaker 1I got an idea. Let's put some respect on Ray Mysterio too.
Speaker 5Let's put some respect on Juan Cena. Is it because he has a mask, juan Cena? Yeah, yeah, let's put some respect On.
Speaker 1Juan Cena? Is it because he has a mask? Juan Cena, yeah.
Speaker 2Yeah, I've seen Cena.
Speaker 1I've seen Cena. That was racist. That was. That was boring. I'm about to cut that. That was rough.
Speaker 4I've seen Cena In a.
Speaker 1McDonald's commercial.
Speaker 4You can't do ping.
Speaker 1I wasn't doing ping.
Speaker 4Okay, I was doing Um Gorilla.
Speaker 1Didn't you used to have a Jamaican accent? Alright, boys, anybody got anything else y'all want closing arguments. Do you want to say anything?
AMW Super Show Excitement
Speaker 3no, I think we're good. I think we covered it we've had one year of the show on the podcast. One year I can show podcast boys one year.
Speaker 1I can't believe we made it one year, six listens. Yeah, it's been fun. We've had a great time. Added some people, some reoccurring guests and Phil and co-hosts. Wes is still here. I'm surprised about that.
Speaker 2Clay carries.
Speaker 1Wayne knows he's been in studio once. You want to talk about the event in Corbin? Oh, we're gonna go. Absolutely we're gonna go. We're gonna try to get tickets this week. Wes works so he's screwed, sorry. We're going to try to go to Corbin, it's three shows Wes Come on. We're going to try to go to Corbin and watch a huge AMW super show next weekend.
Speaker 4AJ Kazana will be there AJ.
Speaker 1Kazana.
Speaker 4Shout out.
Speaker 1AJ.
Speaker 5Can't wait to see our boy.
Speaker 1Rhino will be there. Weird wrench, what Rhino will be there.
Speaker 2Yeah, Rhino Not.
Speaker 1Rhino on the podcast, but not that one. Stan Sierra, literally Rhino. Kyle Maggard.
Speaker 2Marty Clay.
Speaker 1Who has an AEW contract? Marty Fugate.
Speaker 1Oh yeah, that's right, marty Fugate. Yeah, contract marty fugate. Oh yeah, that's right, marty fugate. Yeah, um, yeah, boys, good show fun times. Uh, I love wrestling. I love it all the time. I love it more than I've ever loved. I love being a mark. I'm okay with being a mark all the time. Um, I would like to say I would like for the shows to go back down to two hours, because I am tired at this point. I really, really struggled tonight the last hour. I was like boys, we ain't gonna make it.
Speaker 4Hey, Colt didn't make it.
Speaker 1No, colt didn't make it and let me tell you, we were all tired. Noah got quiet, we got tired that last match I didn't know what was going on. My eyes were closed a little bit.
Speaker 4Colt literally looked at me, thinking he turned down yeah, I know he's thinking you turn that down.
Speaker 1All right boys, uh, try not to be marks today. Yay, oh, ring the damn bell. This is awesome. This is awesome, this is awesome.