Work Or Shoot?: A Wrestling Podcast
A Work is a legitimate and unscripted exchange or sequence within a wrestling match. A Shoot is defined as the planned or scripted elements of a match or storyline
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Work Or Shoot?: A Wrestling Podcast
CENA'S HEEL TURN?!, ALEXA BLISS AS "FEMALE FIEND" AND KO VS SAMI WILL BE VIOLENT
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This episode reveals the highs and lows in wrestling, including discussions about the Royal Rumble results and predictions for the upcoming Elimination Chamber. We dissect Cena's potential heel turn and explore the implications of various matches leading into Wrestlemania, all while encouraging listener engagement through predictions and reflections on the dynamic world of wrestling.
• Analyzing the aftermath of the Royal Rumble
• Predictions for the Elimination Chamber outcomes
• Discussion on Cena's proposed heel turn
• Insights into evolving storylines leading to Wrestlemania
• Reactions and reflections on wrestler performances from key events
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Wrestling Hot Takes and Rumors
Speaker 1Now get the cards, the drugs from my generation. I'll take the fall.
Speaker 2You will feel nothing but rage from this day. Go Marty, go Marty. They killed him.
Speaker 1If you smell, this is Heavy D Wayno's in studio. I'm here, clay, my yeet. Wes Woo, you ruined my yeet. Yeah, you ruined his yeet. It's all about time, clay, claybo Yeet. There you go, we got it back. Alright, welcome back in. We haven't recorded in a year. I think there's been two catastrophic events since then, turns out when you live in the Appalachian rainforest. No, there's been two catastrophic events since then, turns out when you live in the Appalachian rainforest.
Speaker 4No, there's been one, there's been two.
Speaker 1Feels like there's been multiple. I think there was a mountain fail up here.
Speaker 3There's been a snowstorm a mountain fail Huge snowstorm, frigid temperatures.
Speaker 1Frigid temperatures.
Speaker 4That goes with the snowstorm.
Speaker 1Not always, as you can tell by being able to talk to him. Wano is back here in studio, off work. Happy to have him here Off work, believe it or not, because he worked like 164 straight. I'm sure Clabo really is the only one of us that every week has been like we're recording tomorrow. Right, I have Every day he's ready to record. So really, I'm gonna give you the floor. Let you start talking about Whatever you wanna start talking about. Alright, okay, go. So first I have a hot take on a Mania match.
Speaker 2Okay.
Speaker 1I got Braun Breaker, pete Dunn, sheamus Ludwig Penta, ron Breiker, pete Dunn, seamus Ludwig Penta, and there was another one.
Speaker 4Are you just going to make it a rumble?
Speaker 1No, I'm getting to that part. And who's it was Braun.
Speaker 4Six man ladder match.
Speaker 1Okay, why do you think that's going happen? I'm not like it. I'm all about it, but I don't know. Like for for the intercontinental yeah for the title. Oh, because so many? Because he's hating on so many people. Yeah, oh and dom. Oh, all right, we can't get. We're like a minute into the episode. We can't get straight into me already glazing Dom. We'll wait a few seconds.
Speaker 3Okay, he's buried a bust, I know, just say it.
Speaker 1So for Chamber, I think Cena okay, this is a hot take too. Cena wins Chamber. Um Cody's music hits, he comes out and Cena's staring at the Mania sign. Rock's music hits. Cody turns to look at the Rock and then turns around back to Cena just to get hit by AA. And then Cena turns to him and he gets a heel run with the Rock Corporation.
Speaker 3Yep For 17 days, this man has been got a lot of pimped up, like wanting to talk about wrestling.
Speaker 4I think he's been secretly hanging out with Wayne it's so hard you forgot to introduce yourself.
Speaker 1Clay in that segment, supermark. Hi, my name is Mark and this has been Cooking with Mark.
Speaker 4He's in ultimate form.
Speaker 1Oh man, I like it. Of course you like it. Yeah, you name off something until it sticks.
Speaker 4Listen, you've been zero for 127. It's been bad.
Speaker 3Yeah, it's been bad.
Speaker 1Your takes have not been good. I'm going to say that Clay now. On event night Clay is usually right. His takes up to that point are off a lot, but on event night he's usually got the correct takes. Now that six-man ladder match might not be real. Yeah, I mean.
Speaker 4I'm right now questioning if you're D's or Wayne's kid.
Speaker 2Right now just because of the whole whole six man the crazy takes tonight.
Speaker 3I'm definitely betting you're up for 20, 25 100%.
Speaker 4But you know what, though, I do like it? I do like the every bit of it. I like the the Cena heel run because that would rock yeah, you know there was a story a while back about they wanted Cena to go heel.
Speaker 1Yeah, Whenever the fans hated him.
Speaker 4And he couldn't do it, like he had the same contemplation as Hulk, like if I went there I'll never go back. Yeah, and the only thing we kind of got of like, excuse me, a little of an easter egg is that was the um firefly funhouse match. Oh right, when he, uh, when it showed him in the nwo gear, that was a little easter egg of his career where they were trying to make him go make him do it yeah he'll, and it was like because they made hogan go heel yeah, that was the.
Speaker 1that was a weird time, because it's weird to hear. It's weird to hear, no, I just mean when they hated Cena. Oh, yeah, it was weird to hear the fans boo somebody and them not even pretending like it exists.
Speaker 4No, he had go-home heat.
Speaker 1Yeah, he had go-home heat bad. Yeah, I watched two Elimination Chambers today. I think both of them had Cena in them.
Speaker 4Was it the old Elimination Chamber setup or new?
Speaker 1One of them was the old one and one was the new one.
Speaker 4Gotcha.
Speaker 1I think it was like 2006 or something.
Speaker 4The new setup is they took the TNA setup right.
Speaker 1Yeah.
Speaker 2They just put the chambers in it. Yeah, okay.
Speaker 4Yeah.
Speaker 1Okay, yeah, because it looks like a crow's nest.
Speaker 4Yeah, it's got that circle in the middle yeah.
Speaker 1Since we recorded last a lot of everything. Last time was before the Rumble, right Before Rumble, which is wild, when I was on location.
Speaker 3On the wild. Yeah, before, before the rumble, right Before rumble, which is wild, when I was on location, out in the wild.
Speaker 1Yeah.
Speaker 2Before rumble yeah, bro, rumble prediction.
Speaker 4We're going to do rumble results in a little bit. I thought we'd done rumble. We've done predictions.
Speaker 3We've not talked about it. The flood happened, the flood happened, and then landslide, and then snowstorm, and then another snow.
Speaker 2Snowstorm landslide.
Speaker 4Yeah, snowstorm flood, snowstorm, landslide, you know who it did in effect Flood, snowstorm, of all people. The one person it did in effect was Wayne, and he could have been here because he don't live in this state. Anytime anything happens, I'm stuck out here, Indefinitely.
Speaker 1You guys are really mean to each other. Yeah it's really sad, it's sad.
Speaker 4It's really depressing. Hey, you should have made us in high school.
Speaker 3So what was the first match in the Rumble there Clay.
Speaker 1I don't want to get into that yet. Do it, I want to. So I don't know if we're going to get Hill Cody yet. No, I think that's a long con. I think they're trying to make us talk about it for a while before we get that.
Speaker 4Yeah, I got my own take on that. We'll talk about it later.
Speaker 1All right. What about that Rock promo last night? Oh my God, I don't even understand what happened. That was for me the most confused I've ever been in wrestling.
Speaker 4Hey, if you watched the post, show you'd have been even more confused.
Speaker 1I watched a little bit of it. Did you watch it, Wayne?
Speaker 4The press conference after.
Speaker 3A little bit, not all of it.
Speaker 1It made no sense I didn't watch none of it. He was full board member.
Speaker 4He was full board member, dwayne Johnson, and just wanted to talk about the past and how he never pretended. Let me step about the past and how, like he, he never pretend. Let me sit back for a second. The post shows the press conferences. They kind of they mesh the reality, meshes with the story. You know like they'll they'll talk about heel, they'll say the words but and they'll say about the competition, but yet still it's really they're going kayfabe without going kayfabe.
Speaker 1Yeah.
Speaker 4It's both. With the Rock it was all. Kayfabe broke it all. It was just him talking about his character as final boss. He was talking him talking about his character as going from, uh, rocky, my via to the rock and how, all this other shit. Then it. Then it went to you know, when I won, when I won the intercontinental title. And then he was like, wait a minute, I didn't win it when they were nice enough to give it to me, because no one wins an actual title, he said, and I was like whoa.
Speaker 3What if that's the gimmick?
Speaker 1Right. So what I think is we're all marks. Yeah, we are I think it's too blatantly breaking it, too blatantly not good, blatantly weird, and I don't think it's an actual thing that the Rock I think the Rock is going to have. I think it's going to be like Corporation. Something has to happen that's like that, or he's doing obvious and I don't know. I seriously don't know what the line is, but I know there's something going on that there's no way that it's just he's just acting that way.
Speaker 4No, no, you're right.
Speaker 1Because they would cut him off. They would be like you can't go back on.
Speaker 3Can they yeah I mean that's not real.
Speaker 1He's just a board member, don't even own like he don't he's, he doesn't own like a high percentage of it.
Speaker 4he doesn't actually have that kind of power and going back what clay said, like I agree with clay, with like the whole um, something's gonna happen at elimination chamber. Yeah, I think it's kind of like the Star Wars come to the dark side and he's going to fight it and I think if we do, it can go either way. But I'm just saying if he does go heel, I feel like it's not going to happen until Mania, but throughout the road to Mania all the shit's going to just keep happening to Cody and then it's going to be like rock being like hey you could have joined hey you know what I'm saying?
Speaker 4Like every time something happens, brock reminds him. Hey, if he, if he goes heel, uh, but the corporation? I was like, if he goes heel, it's corporation.
Speaker 1If he goes heel, is he going to die and dye his hair or would he keep it blonde? Because he dyed his hair blonde when he went heel and he just kept it.
Speaker 4I think he'll keep it, because dyeing your hair back black is. He's not going to do that again, unless he's retired.
Speaker 1Or we're just all marching.
Speaker 4With that, I'm just going to argue a little bit that Cody absolutely hated his characters before Cody Rhodes.
Speaker 1He hated Stardust and all that he hated Stardust.
Speaker 4He didn't know where he was going with.
Speaker 1Even when he won the Intercontinental yeah he hated it.
Speaker 4It almost ruined his career, right. What's the other ones?
Speaker 2he had Dashing.
Speaker 4Dashing and undashing and all that. He hated all that. So I think, as a character, that he's like procured he's not ever going to dye that hair again when he went to aw.
Speaker 3He was in japan at the time, right they went to j and then the Bullet Club.
Speaker 1Then he went to.
Speaker 4AEW, not AEW.
Speaker 1His hair transitioned to blonde in AEW I mean no in.
Speaker 4Japan yeah, it transitioned to blonde in Japan.
Speaker 1I remember the reveal His wife was standing with him when he pulled his hood back and his hair was blonde.
Speaker 3Brandy was with him. Who was Cody's opponent in All, in the first one, not the AEW one. But when they done it, when the Bullet Club done it, I don't know, dustin. Adam Pearce. Oh yeah, it was Adam Pearce.
Speaker 1Yeah, because I forget that Adam was an All Elite. Actually he was like a first. Yeah, for sure, he was one of the first elites. He helped make it right.
Speaker 2People forget about that.
Speaker 1He helped them put together Because All In Tony Khan helped with All In right. Tony Khan put money into All In and backed it, and that's why he started AW.
Speaker 3I don't know when he came in exactly, but it pretty much came with him just making a tweet saying hey, bitch, we can sell, I bet we can do this. Yeah, it 30,000?. And it was the first ever non.
Speaker 4Yeah, it was like the first ever WWE event to sell that many tickets, since.
Speaker 1Right, like 99. Well, cause it was awesome. Right Because that was when and because it was a toy box, cause WWE sucked.
Speaker 4Yeah. Wwe sucked and it was, and it was a flat out. Um, don't Don't get me wrong, it was it. Don't give me wrong, it was a. It was when I know y'all hate aw, but pre, pre aw, all in was an absolute.
Speaker 1It was great it, it was a pick fed yeah it was yeah, yeah, it was a pick fed, it was a, it was a pay-per-view pick fed. Every episode was like forbidden door, you know, you pick fed it, I mean. So I want to say that what wwe is doing right now with TNA? A couple things about that A. I love it because we're never going to know who's going to show up, like the Moose thing. I feel like we just talked about Moose and Obafemi. We just talked about wanting to see that.
Speaker 2Obafemi yeah.
Speaker 1And it's a real thing. Jordan Grace, Jordan Grace.
Speaker 4Well, she's strictly WWE now right, she's not even TNA, but.
Rock's Character Development and Perception
Speaker 1We're getting the Hardys. We're getting the Hardys In WWE.
Speaker 3Yeah, because AJ's definitely going At some point.
Speaker 1Oh yeah, oh my god, aj AJ's gonna blow the Top off of TNA I say, aj's Final retirement match Will be on GNA. And Listen to this. I heard rumblings that they're talking about bringing back X Division the freaking monkey bars. You know what I'm talking about. Clay never watched X Division.
Speaker 2They have an.
Speaker 1X hanging in the middle of the thing with and the bars going across. They had to scale to go across the bars and get the stuff there's insane spots Like AJ was known for that.
Speaker 3It's essentially a ladder match.
Speaker 1It's essentially a ladder match, yeah, but there's crazy spots off the top of that. We had Joe Hendry in the but. Joe Hendry and Elias you don't like Elias. No, I love Elias. I don't love Joe Hendry. You don't like Elias. No, I love Elias, I don't love Joe Hendry.
Speaker 2You know, that's fair.
Speaker 1He's not a good wrestler. It's fair that he's not like a fantastic wrestler, but you can't doubt that he got over from us all. He got over. He got over Cena. Find today that said AEW was you can't see him just ex-WWE superstars. That could not get over and they just went to AEW. Oh yeah, that's real. Yeah, I see a thing that said Ricochet. Ricochet was held back in WWE.
Speaker 4Now he's the best heel in wrestling in AEW and I was like speaking of that, I seen one that was like just a reminder and it was uh, ricochet staring down um what's his face's manager. Oh, swerve, swerves manager yeah and they're in the ring and I said just a reminder all of this is over that stupid jacket, that Ricochet's wearing.
Speaker 1That's a terrible story, rip Ricochet.
Speaker 4Yeah, she's done too.
Speaker 1Speaking of TNA, we actually should do a moment of silence.
Speaker 4Moment of silence, real quick, it's over. Speaking of TNA Chris Bay. There was an update on him. Bay Bay, he's up and walking.
Speaker 1Without DDP yoga.
Speaker 4Without DDP yoga.
Speaker 1Lex Luger's up.
Speaker 2Yeah, I see.
Speaker 4Lex Luger's up. So they said that there was so much radio silence Because everything was up in the air. Also, he couldn't actually use his hands. He was paraplegic in the ring From the neck down.
Speaker 3It's what draws up. Draws the head up, yeah.
Speaker 4They got him in emergency surgery but he actually finally made a video, talked to everybody.
Speaker 1Was his career supposed to be over?
Speaker 4His career is over, brother. Oh yeah, he's walking. It took him three months to. He's walking, but he's not Whatever like. He's walking, but he's not Whatever.
Speaker 1Yeah, he's walking.
Speaker 4Not great yeah he had learned to walk. He's got to learn to use his hands again. He still learned that, but they said that you know it was a freak accident. Hardee's did not do anything wrong, but the spot was he was supposed to jump up and then he started yelling at the ref and he was like I can't feel anything.
Speaker 4And then they let Jeff know, because Jeff was supposed to go up for a swan time and he just jumped off the middle rope and he didn't even connect with his leg, he just landed beside of him and then, they just guarded him until they could get people there.
Speaker 3Did you see the viral TikTok with tock with, uh the werewolf, uh, helping luger in the car? That was pretty cool. He put it, put his wheelchair in the back and he was like, hey, mr luger, I fought two of them's. Uh, nephew, pleasure to meet you. He's like, oh really, hey, buddy, real quick, jacob's I'm the man.
Speaker 1I just want to talk about awesome dude, lfg and evolve. Yeah, because the you were talking about those id titles, the minimum id titles of all. Did y'all get my?
Speaker 4message about evolve that I wrote in uh, the group chat I don't know, man, that's interesting so clay's gonna love this. Um that female, uh ref, the one that was a fan. Oh, yes, I did see that she's wrestling in Evolve with a mask.
Speaker 1I love that.
Speaker 4Under a new name I love that.
Speaker 1Yeah, I just seen it.
Speaker 4They just copyrighted her name. It's weird. It's like Corix or something. That's super cool.
Speaker 1That's awesome.
Speaker 4And they thought, when they copyrighted that name, they thought they were going to do a name change to uh, the girl that does the the soul. Um, oh, yeah, so roger. Yeah, because her name is her last name's, like corex or something, spelled the same way, except instead of a c or a k it's a, c they copyrighted with the k turns out. It's because it's that ref's name in evolve and she's wrestling with the mask.
Speaker 1nxt Vengeance was awesome, oh yeah.
Speaker 4Yeah, it was.
Speaker 2Sorry I didn't mean to get off track, but I was like oh my God.
Speaker 4I forgot about that, and it's a mask.
Speaker 1Yeah, that's awesome, though I need to look that up, it's good. I hope she makes it.
Speaker 4You're not going to find it.
Speaker 1That's so secret right now, bro, that shit's hidden. Yeah, pretty cool. I love lfg stuff every, every time they show it and like uh, but I do get kind of people's take is uh, that it's showing too much of the business yeah, the same thing for tough enough in the 90s.
Speaker 3Yeah, and tough enough has gave us some great people it did.
Speaker 1But did they like show, like practice, promo, cutting and stuff too?
Speaker 4on tough enough, because that's what that's what people were talking about.
Speaker 1That's what.
Speaker 4EW's been doing with that. Like the biography stuff, they've been pulling all the curtains back.
Speaker 1What'd you do that for I? Think it was me actually I want to go back to the.
Speaker 3Rock promo real quick. I have a thought.
Speaker 2Do it?
Speaker 3I don't know if I can get there or not.
Speaker 4Don't hurt yourself.
Speaker 3Remember when the first one that comes to mind is Austin, it was the anti, what? The anti-heel? Nice, it was the anti-heel baby. What Right? That's when it became. And then WO. It's when it became cool to be a heel. It became cool to be a heel. Yeah, they were anti-babies. This new rock character.
Speaker 4He don't know what he's going to be.
Speaker 3Seems like it's going to be the other way.
Speaker 2It's an anti-baby heel. What I know I can't get there.
Speaker 3But it feels like it's the exact opposite of that. So, is he a heel wanting to be a baby, or is he a baby wanting to be a heel? It's not about wanting to be a baby, or is he a baby wanting to be a heel? It's not about wanting to be. It's about the way you're perceived, because austin changed nothing. He was still a heel, but people loved him with rock. It's like he's heel or he's like a baby, but everybody's gonna hate him. He can't help. It's the gushing baby.
Speaker 1He can't help but do the baby stuff Because he's the rock. And Again it does feel like you see what I'm saying though.
Speaker 4He's a girl dad now, man, he wants to be.
Speaker 3But it does feel like. I think it's going to continue to be a baby face, but it's going to be perceived as being a heel. It feels like a work.
Speaker 1The whole thing feels like a work. I think it's a work the first time, excuse me, the first time I thought maybe it was a fluke and it was a mistake, and like when he was, when he came out, and like the first time that he changed his persona. What, what's going on? I know, but what triggered it? Uh, I know, but what triggered it? Your mic's off, it's not fun. Well, now it's back. You made me say um a thousand times.
Speaker 4We don't say um Got one more.
Speaker 1You got one more.
Speaker 4I knew the pop wasn't topped yet the thing was I don't know what triggered it this time.
Speaker 1No, I didn't think. Nothing funny even happened.
Speaker 3We were just talking about the rock. Things are going in my head, bro.
Speaker 1That's all I got to say Work or shoot. Yeah, the's all I gotta say Work or shoot the rock breaking kayfabe Work. I think the whole thing's a lie. I think something. I don't know where the line is, but I think something's going on. I trust it. I shared that thing where I said it's the first time I didn't trust the process. But I'm kind of coming back around to maybe I do trust the process.
Speaker 4Yeah, at this point I'm just at a wait and see kind of view because I really can't tell, because it would have been man. The Rock promo would have been so much better if they would have just gave a little bit more context.
Speaker 1Yeah.
Speaker 4Like if he would have said the word manage or something to let them know, cuz no one knows what that means. I want your soul.
Speaker 1I want you, so does that mean you're gonna manage? Yeah, yeah, shang Sun and what does?
Speaker 4he mean be my champion. Yeah, like does that mean hey, let me manage you.
Royal Rumble Recap and Apologies
Speaker 1I don't think it goes as far as being a manager, but you get what I'm saying, though I think it was like Vince and Randy Orton Vince and picking Randy Orton as his guy. Anyway, let's move on from that. Hang on real quick. Going back to Vengeance, we had another trick upset, oh yeah.
Speaker 4That strap match.
Speaker 1Yeah, watch that.
Speaker 4He's getting beat all the time. Hey, and that match wasn't good. I'm not saying trick wasn't good, I was saying it was weird. The other guy was. He missed so many spots. It was weird and that whole ending, that whole finisher was so weak, it was so weak.
Speaker 1And then Javon Evans is awesome. I watch him all the time and you know I'm an Ethan Banks fan. And we got Ricky Saints, ricky Saints.
Speaker 4Change his name Ricky Saints. I did like when he first came out, when he debuted, he kind of pulled the outsiders thing, because when he came out, instead of introducing himself, he said you guys all know who I am, yeah. He threw it right back to WCW. He's like you know who we are, that's great yeah, because they couldn't say their name.
Speaker 1Yeah, y'all ready for Rumble.
Speaker 2Let's go Hang on, hang on.
Speaker 1I just want to apologize to everybody watching this show.
Speaker 2Oh yeah.
Speaker 1Hold on, hold on. Let me play some sad music here in the background. I don't have it, I don't think they watch this show. I just want to apologize to all of WWE, to the listeners on the show to myself, to everybody else for being so terribly wrong about the whole Royal Rumble penalty. The whole thing, all of us, every one of us wrong.
Speaker 4All the way down. Hey, you knew who was it wrong that we do need to apologize to who the Littlest Wes.
Speaker 1Oh yeah, he's right most of the time.
Speaker 4Littlest Wes my youngest.
Speaker 1Apologize to Jay, my youngest. Showed Little Swiss, my youngest.
Speaker 4Apologize to Jay, my youngest showed up for the Rumble party wearing the Jey Uso blue pants, the Jey Uso shirt.
Speaker 1Well, to be fair, that's kind of like just the opposite thing that Wayne does, where Wayne, like, throws a million darts at a board and tries to hit it yeah. Like he just throws the Jey Uso dart at a board until Jey Uso wins.
Speaker 4But the boy. He was more excited for that win than anybody else was.
Speaker 1Yeah, he eaten everywhere.
Speaker 4Yeah, I was so happy for him.
Speaker 1And we always record his woes of Cody Rhodes, yeah.
Speaker 2Yeah.
Speaker 1Yeah, he's awesome doing that. That's great. Yeah, sorry everybody, we suck. All the picks were bad.
Speaker 4All the picks were bad, then we were few. The only thing we got right was Charlotte and Cody Feels bad, though.
Speaker 3I lost him as a mummy Right.
Speaker 1She looks so bad, awful. She looks so bad, which sucks, because I loved her before. She's a heroine. It looks like it, don't it? You think she beats Tiffy at Mania.
Speaker 3No, I don't think so. Surely to God, not she's struggling heroine.
Speaker 4It looks like it, doesn't it? You think she beats Tiffy at Mania? No, I don't think so either. Surely to God not. She's struggling on the mic right now, bro.
Speaker 1Well, it's because she expected to be babyface.
Speaker 4So before we get into the rumble, though, I was going to point out to your dad this last SmackDown. Did you watch the rest of it?
Speaker 1I didn't watch any of Charlotte's promo.
Speaker 4Okay, so Charlotte came out and sat with the announcers and I told Dusty to rewind it.
Speaker 1Oh yeah, I did watch that and I pointed and I said watch in the background.
Speaker 4And as they were interviewing her and she was fumbling her words, you can see Road Dogg crawl over and sit beside her and start feeding her lines.
Speaker 1Really see road dog crawl over and sit beside her and start feeding her lines.
Speaker 3Yeah, really, yeah, I did say that I did say that in the background. Is it just out of practice or she really unherald?
2024 Women's Royal Rumble Discussion
Speaker 4no, no, that's a shoot, she's just she, just like she just didn't know what to say. Like she, she was just having one word answers when they were asking these intricate questions.
Speaker 1And like I didn't know that was Road Dogg, though.
Speaker 4Yeah, that was Road Dogg. I put it on the board Road Dogg gets blasted. He did get blasted, but anyways, let's go back to Rumble. Sorry, I just remembered that. He had to start feeding her lines, because she was just bombing.
Speaker 1First match is the Women's Rumble, which.
Speaker 4Biggest surprise.
Speaker 1Everybody biggest surprise everybody.
Speaker 4Hey, no, no, no. Best part about that rumble alexa bliss. Alexa was awesome.
Speaker 1Alexa came out and she's right back huge pop, huge pop, and since then she's that jacket that jacket she wore do you see it? She wore it the other night too.
Speaker 4What it say like friends it says fiend on it, but then there's a small, but then there's a small R written in between the F and the I. Yeah.
Speaker 1What? Oh, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4That'd be cool. Heard about that. Heard about that too, Female fiend. They're thinking she's going to be the female fiend.
Speaker 1That'd be awesome, fiend male.
Speaker 3They're doing the glitches with her too, right?
Speaker 1Dad told me the other day White Six got the worst gimmick of 2024. Second worst gimmick of 2024. To be fair, they didn't get much of a chance on TV, to be fair.
Speaker 3They've not done anything, but it's hard. It's hard For the bell to ring. It's hard.
Speaker 1When the bell rings it's over.
Speaker 3Yeah, it's brutal. And then let's have a match.
Speaker 4Also.
Speaker 1Yeah.
Speaker 4I agree To you know AOP got fired and it turns out now that I don't know if this is part of the firing, but their last match was AOP and that's the last time we saw Uncle Howdy, because Uncle Howdy actually got took out Like he's injured.
Speaker 1Oh yeah, because of them, speaking of ALP, they got Karrion over. Karrion got over with I don't know he's. I thought that Karrion and Sammy are going to feud, yeah, and that's going to be awesome. I think that'll be great. I'm here for those matches For sure.
Speaker 4What about Roxanne?
Speaker 1Roxanne, she's so good, can't help but do that. I love her move. It's called Turn on the red light. Roxanne, turn on the red light. You don't know what's going on. Please, sorry, we're there. Her move is called Pop Rocks. It's that um, it's a front flip. It's like a yeah, canadian destroyer, right, but something like that there was a couple new finishers she's awesome. Yeah, this is new finish. Alexa bliss is no finisher what's it called?
Speaker 4it's not sister abigail, it's logan paul's new finisher Dude.
Speaker 1That movie's awesome. What is it called the Paul?
Speaker 4Pulverizer. Pulverizer.
Speaker 1He should call it Impulsive or something.
Speaker 4That's his.
Speaker 1I know, yeah, but the Pulverizer is nice.
Speaker 4They said he changed his wrestling style. He's not going to be a hot flyer anymore. Yeah, that makes sense he's done doing too much sketchy stuff.
Speaker 1JD McDonough is dead by the way.
Speaker 4Last time he did a high flying finisher, I think it was against.
Speaker 1Well, his last match was Well, there's no longevity in it. Yeah, when he lost his title.
Speaker 4He said when he did that super flip off the top it scared him so bad that he's like I'm not doing it the longevity of it.
Speaker 1You don't have a long career if you keep doing that. Jd McDonough is dead, by the way. Oh yeah, Absolutely. When we watched that live, I was like, oh, he's dead. I have put respect on his name, though.
Speaker 4We already did this. Yeah, we did this, we did yeah. Yeah, that was before Rumble, so back on Rumble. Women's match Alexa Bliss Good.
Speaker 1Not really any surprises in it.
Speaker 4No, no surprises whatsoever. Other than none of the people we fought.
Speaker 1Street Profits manager.
Speaker 4Street Profits manager or not manager? No, b-fab, b-fab, that's a. She came out and she held on for a little bit. It was awful, but she held on she.
Speaker 1It was awful, but she held on also. I guess she's not with them anymore. And uh, they rock now. Yeah, they're awesome as heels. Well, they're attacking diy every time diy exists. Have you been saying that?
Speaker 4Their name's going to get switched up. They're just the prophets. They're the prophets now, but all in all, as soon as Charlotte came out, I was like man and she looked awful.
Speaker 1It didn't look like her. We all knew that it didn't look like her anyway.
Speaker 4Put some respect on Liv Morgan.
Speaker 1I don't get Charlotte them doing Charlotte's promo and then her winning straight. It was so obvious.
Speaker 3It's the feeder to Tiffy. It has to be.
Speaker 1Are they going to call it queen versus princess?
Speaker 3I don't know, it doesn't matter, she just has to lose, she has to lose to Tiffy If she wins, that'll be a shame, we're right.
Speaker 2Yeah, that'd be terrible.
Speaker 1I'll quit watching wrestling. No, you won't.
Speaker 4I know I can't Shout out to Liv Morgan for ring presence because she spotted that Valkyria was having wardrobe malfunctions. She couldn't get her moves done because her top busted.
Speaker 1Yeah.
Speaker 4And. Liv noticed and immediately side, kicked her into another corner so that the refs could help her.
Speaker 1Speaking of wardrobe malfunctions, tiffy, I'm not going to go into any further details.
Speaker 2No, that didn't happen.
Speaker 1Nothing, nothing. Check the robot.
Speaker 4No, we deleted those.
Speaker 1We deleted that.
Speaker 3The big, huge spot they done when they had all the people in the ring and they eliminated them six at one time, that was cool. The big, huge spot they done when they had all the people in the ring and they eliminated them six at one time, that was cool.
Speaker 1The women? Yeah, nah, I eliminated them all. She's so bad, god, I hate her.
Speaker 3They're all saying everybody hates her.
Speaker 1I hate Candice, I hate Nah, it was different but it didn't work. Whatever, the Rumble match, the women's match, seems like they just rehash stuff over and over.
Speaker 2Yeah.
Speaker 1What about the Jade thing? I don't know.
Speaker 2What are they going to do?
Speaker 1Dude, I have so much to talk about yeah, just do it, because I don't think.
Speaker 4It's Naomi for sure. It's Naomi for sure Jade's going to come back. A mania.
Speaker 1Yeah, they're for sure. Jade's going to come back a mania. Yeah, raquel and Liv's about to beat them tomorrow For the titles I heard that they were going to reignite the Raquel-Liv tag team.
Speaker 4I think so.
Speaker 1Yeah, because they got to do something with her. I can see that that's cool. I got no problem with that. Next match that DIY and Machine Gun Kelly's where the Profits interrupted's were the profits interrupted, the profits interrupted. Good match, great match, yeah.
Speaker 3It's nice to see a tag team match on a PLE.
Speaker 1Still don't like Johnny Gargano First time. Yeah, clay, don't like Gargano as a heel. He's not crazy about it.
Speaker 3I don't like him as a heel Because he talks like this it's forced, yeah, it is forced, but Chomp is a great deal.
Speaker 1I love Tommaso, though. Yeah, he just walks out mad.
Speaker 4Yeah, he looks mad all the time.
Speaker 1Them and Pretty Deadly feud. I love Pretty Deadly. I'm big on Pretty Deadly. I think they're good.
Speaker 4I had a good hot take on that. What if Pretty Deadly finally starts? Because, they're disco. Yeah, they come out with the disco ball and all that I said it worked for.
Speaker 1Disco Inferno.
Speaker 4I said it'd be funny if they finally lose their. They get beat so many times they lose their selves so they start coming out as different genres of music.
Speaker 1I like their interviews, you're right. I like Tony entrance music, you're right. You're right, like Tony Collin, yeah.
Speaker 3I love that.
Speaker 1You're right, like Tony Collin, yeah, I love the entrance music though. Yeah, yes, boy, yes, boy, yeah they're great.
Speaker 3You ever heard of Disco Inferno's booking pitches he made. They're famous and he made these pitches these pitches.
Speaker 1Well, he booked.
Speaker 3He booked for WWE for a long time. After that he did for like TNA.
Speaker 1Oh yeah.
Speaker 3He pushed for the Evil Architect building Building the Evil Architect. No, he didn't Promise.
Speaker 1Really, we got to do turnbuckles for the women's match. One, one.
Speaker 4No, I'm going to give it two, just because for the women's match, one One, no. I'm going to give it two just because of Alexa. Charlotte sucked One.
Speaker 1I'm subtracting a point for Charlotte. I'm subtracting. Yeah, yeah, nia sucks, nia sucks and Charlotte sucks. Man, I never thought I'd say Charlotte sucks, I guess when you see her wrestle Tiffany.
Speaker 4I don't think she's in ring shape. See her wrestle.
Speaker 1Tiffany, I don't think she's in ring shape. We'll see. We'll see Turnbuckle's for tag match. I enjoyed that match.
Speaker 2I'll give it three because I had a good time with it.
Speaker 1I agree and I like the Profits in all black, I think Montez Ford's, and they're not really heel. I think Montez Ford is fantastic. Everybody loves him His frog splash. The other night, when he interrupted DIY again, dude, he was 20 foot up there I swear to God, I've never seen anybody's frog splash so high. He was like RVD ladder match high.
Speaker 3Yeah it's crazy.
Speaker 1Have I told you all Bianca makes his gear.
Speaker 4Yeah.
Speaker 1That's why I said him and Bianca are in freak shape. Whatever they do that, nobody else does Like their show you can see her making all this gear and stuff. That's pretty awesome. Men's Rumble is next match.
Speaker 4Men's Rumble is next match.
Speaker 2Cody KO.
Speaker 1Cody KO. I'm always going to love Cody.
Speaker 3KO Alabama. Slam through the ladder was nuts. I think it's the Cody heel tease. But I mean, I don't think it's going to happen unless it happens with a rock.
Speaker 1We've seen a little bit of heel Cody there. Sammy Zane, I told you.
Speaker 4I told you he's going to be tiptoeing on that line for every match For a long time. He did that again with doing the album slam when he finally let loose and they gave him a signal to bust open KO. Really thought we was going to get Hill Sammy there that was old school. That wasn't Sammy. When he showed color, it was the old way.
Speaker 1I thought that was good riding. I thought that was good riding of Sammy not helping, and that being the whole thing. I thought we was going to get Hill Sammy there. I thought he was going to push Cody off the ladder. Better package pile driver, bump Sammy Zane or Cody Rhodes, sammy Zane, sammy in Samy's Samy's was great. He's probably been packaged pile driver 100 times though.
Speaker 4Every bit of that match was greatness, I think.
Unsanctioned Match Predictions and Woos
Speaker 1I think and we can touch on this in a second, but their chamber match.
Speaker 3Was that legit? Wes's fart should work Give me a minute. I'm smelling, I'll tip.
Speaker 1Oh God it was good, he thought it was going to be silent.
Speaker 3Nothing, just row.
Speaker 1Row, lifted his leg and thought it was going to be like a little let out, and it went.
Speaker 4Rocked. Oh gosh, I'm sorry, that was awesome. I was fixing to divot.
Speaker 1Fixing to divot that match, that unsanctioned match. Somebody's going to die because they're going to do insane spots, because it's Sammy and KO they're going to do like. I think we're going to see a multiple table spot where they go through like stacked tables. Somebody's going to go through stacked tables. I think Karrion interrupts that match. Ooh that's a good that's hot, hey, I'm here for that. Yeah, yeah, we'll get a woo. Let's go there. I don't know. That's awesome, I'm here for it.
Speaker 4Had to give the woo.
Speaker 1Yeah, I'm here for it. Had to give the woo. Yeah, I'm here for it. I'm going to do a little crossover comment, a little unpaid lunch. Crossover comment because a guy at work that's why I said that.
Speaker 1Yeah, I was sending out these emails at work to a variety of people and my profile picture is Dusty on teams and outlook and stuff, and a dude replied and said uh. Dude replied and said, like you know, whatever confirmed whatever for me. And then at the bottom of it he said uh, uh. And what did he say? And let me get? He said I just want to give a big woo.
Speaker 4He said thanks so much, dusty Woo. Sorry had to do it. Big Dusty Rhodes fan.
Speaker 1Yeah, and I was like Somebody here's a fraud, somebody here's a fraud. I didn't reply and correct him, I just replied passive, aggressively.
Speaker 3I mean they had a lot to do with each other back in the day.
Speaker 1But yeah, but I was passive aggressively replied and said um, oh yeah, just the um, just the it's, it's hard, uh, hard times out here for the son of a plumber. I said that's what I said. Yeah, because he said just wanted to give a shout out to the american dream. Whoo and I was like what I don't, what am I gonna do with this guy? What am I gonna? That's what I said. Yeah, because he said just wanted to give a shout out to the American Dream.
Speaker 3Woo and I was like what am I going to do with this guy? What am I going to do with this guy? I think you've got to fight him. I know we ain't the same person.
Speaker 1This is going like this thing is whipped. We ain't the same person, I promise.
Speaker 4One of these things is not like the other.
Speaker 1Yeah, yeah, I give that match three. Yeah, that match, that match rocked. Everything about that match rocked teases all over the place on turns. By the way, my wrestling shirt that I wear sorry, wes, the wrestling shirt that I'm wearing the most right now is a Kevin is right shirt, because I still firmly believe that it's going to come like that whole storyline is going to lead to Kevin being right about everything. Got a new Cena shirt with a door on the back of it. Yeah, clay, got the blue Cena shirt.
Speaker 4Anybody else want to talk about Cody's walkout gear? Was it the jacket, the one I said that night when he walked out with?
Speaker 1the jacket. It wasn't a long jacket, right it wasn't a long jacket.
Speaker 4It was a biker jacket with the sleeves off of it.
Speaker 3I remember that.
Speaker 4And I was like I know this jacket, I know this color scheme, I know this word is coming from it. It dawned on me like a week later and I posted it on the show and color Facebook and it is the same exact design as G1 Hot Rod from Transformers.
Speaker 3That's awesome.
Speaker 1Yeah, leave it to Wes to go find the Transformers correlation. Yeah, obviously it's. Obviously that's what it is Like. It was very obvious that match was awesome. I'm excited. I'm excited for everything KO's doing. Uh, the rumble apologize for being terribly wrong, bad, so wrong about everybody. I don't even know if we got a prediction right on anybody who was going to show up.
Speaker 3Um, I don't know we said Ricky Starks, we said Joe Henry. But I mean, that was a given, that was a big ball.
Speaker 1Yeah, joe Henry was not fair, though, because we knew that was going to be there. We got wrong trick.
Speaker 4We got Riddle.
Speaker 1Riddle, we're all. Riddle was there though. Well, sure, but you know, I mean.
Speaker 2Richard Petty might have been.
Speaker 1Yeah, calm down, clay.
Speaker 3So what was the fallout with the the drew thing and getting mad cuz they messed up a spot somebody?
Speaker 4oh, it was a la he's mad okay.
Speaker 1Louisiana, not making us make it about himself we all thought it was.
Speaker 4We all thought it was Pinta cuz Pinta. Anytime someone came in the ring, pinta would get wrapped in their face and do the whole sell man every time. And we're like we thought he was referring to him. Yeah, but it wasn't, it was LA Knight.
Speaker 1Also, if that might be work.
Speaker 3Let me talk about it. I had to. Did he do something wrong or were they just out of time?
Speaker 4Out of time.
Speaker 3Like the spots. It wasn't necessarily his fault.
Speaker 1Yeah, I think his spots were obviously written in, otherwise the camera wouldn't have cut to him.
Speaker 4Yeah.
Speaker 3Because I'm going to have a hot take here and you're not going to like this at all. Wes, it was Drew's elimination that was kind of botched, because LA was up front with whoever it was, I'm not sure doing like a spot when they just came in.
Speaker 3It was Dom, was it Dom? Okay, who was the one that bumped into LA Knight and kind of messed the spot up? It was Dane Homie's kind of bad. Every time something goes wrong it's him. I'm going to hold my take. I'm not saying Drew was griping about Damien, I'm just saying Damien's the one that kind of messed it up. I'm going to hold my tongue to everybody else's response Homie got flipped upside down in the ring and dangled on my foot. Homie didn't kick that one time. He about tripped over LA Knight.
Speaker 1I think it's time to have that conversation. I love him. I think it's time to have that conversation that Damian Priest might be. He might be bad, he might not be bad, but he might not be able to do it. He might not be able to hang with Because, like you said, that not kicking out was a big deal, that not kicking out was a big deal, he screwed that. That's like the worst spot you can mess up.
Speaker 3I remember a while ago, a few months ago, it was like his first title defense at Mania. And then the one after the next pay-per-view PLE. He got his foot stuck. He got his foot stuck and was hanging out in the castle.
Speaker 1Yeah, to be fair, that was rope gate though.
Speaker 3That was rope gate. There was three bad rope spots. Yeah, that's true, but it did have the kind of worst rope gate incident.
Speaker 1It was the worst. It was the worst. Like you said, he did mess up at the Rumble and that match the other night. He blew a spot in that match the other night. He did yeah, I can't remember what it was, but he blew a spot. I was so tired I couldn't even watch it.
Speaker 3I know I was tired too. I just think he served his purpose Speaking of being tired. I'm ready for SmackDown to be two hours. Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 1I need SmackDown to be two hours and 30 minutes.
Speaker 2I like Raw better than.
Speaker 1Saturday I'm fine with watching Raw for three hours, but SmackDown feels like they forced the third hour and I feel like actually to be honest with you, bro. The third hour is just commercials, jesus Christ.
Speaker 4Camera and camera.
Speaker 1Fuck the camera and camera. Sorry for cussing, but let's delete that.
Speaker 3It's fine to do, but not every time, especially on a main event.
Speaker 1What's the show? It's because I don't even do you watch the match when they're doing that.
Speaker 3Yeah, to be fair, I see, I can't even I can't keep up with it.
Speaker 1I'm like going back to.
Speaker 3Raw.
Speaker 1No, you go.
Speaker 3I was just saying that kind of thing was in the Road Dogg getting blasted, because one bad thing is it's three hours and it's not his fault. Charlotte being bad and forgetting the lines is not his fault. And also whatever the hell the Rocks do.
Speaker 1Road Dogg getting blasted is recency bias, because the only reason we even know Road Dogg works there is because there was a thing about him the day before, and so people were like, oh, it's Road Dogg's fault. I was like the head now, and they got. And so people were like, oh, it's Road Dogg's fault. I was like, dude, there's always something shitty that happens on SmackDown and Raw.
Speaker 4There's always something shitty that happens. It's how you adapt and play through it, and he played through it well yeah.
Speaker 1There's always something shitty that happens.
Speaker 3Going back to Raw Finbow are not kicking out. Oh yeah, that's bad I must have missed that.
Speaker 1Was he knocked out? I don't know. He may have been the ref. He said he didn't count to three, but he did.
Speaker 2Yeah, he did Like he just did.
Speaker 1Like he hit the His hand, hit the ground the third time. No, he didn't even tuck, he just counted to three. Yeah, and everybody was, and he went Two and three, uh, out into three. Yeah, and everybody was, and he and he went uh, no, it's okay, he's over.
Speaker 4Yeah, you did three, hey hey, put some respect on seth uh, yeah, I think so we're about to get hill seth no, I'm just talking about he's here, I think. Yeah, I was talking about with that botch yeah like seth played it and like that's when he started arguing with the ref, because he's like I know what happened.
Speaker 1Yeah, he knew what happened.
Speaker 4Yeah, so he saved that match, I think.
Speaker 1Seth is already. I think he's revolutionary Seth, but he's kind of still kind of baby.
Speaker 3Ever heard the Ted DiBiase.
Speaker 1Why don't you lift that up to your head? Wasn't we on Rumble?
Speaker 4We are.
Speaker 1You went to Raw. It's fine, but it's story time Because we was talking about Dame and all the botches and stuff.
Speaker 3Story time.
Speaker 1Love the men's.
Speaker 2Huh.
Speaker 1Go for it. Love the men's Rumble match. My fault, not yours, didn't get surprised, or we kind of did. We didn't get tons of surprises, right?
Speaker 4Pizza's gear was the best part about that match.
Speaker 1Let's talk about what we were totally wrong about. Did we get any returns? I don't think so, right Return.
Speaker 4Yeah, we got one return, Pinto, both feet hit in the ground and then him returning back into the ring.
Speaker 1Acted like it all happened. They reviewed it. One foot did. Technically, both feet have to be flat on the ground technically both feet have to be, flat on the ground your toes can both touch.
Speaker 3No well, that's not real live. Look the rule up. And was this rule up needed?
Speaker 1that rules always happened.
Speaker 3They met since batista I think he's screwed up well, and they're like oh, who cares? Right it's. Oh, it don't matter. Like the Like, the two feet rule yeah.
Speaker 1He's still over. Shawn Michaels screwed up. Yeah, Penta can do whatever he wants right now and I'm all here for it. So rumble match was great. Unexpected winner. Anybody here who says they thought Jey Uso was going to win? You were wrong. You lying.
Speaker 4I didn't think he was going to win. You were wrong, you lying. I didn't think it was going to win.
Speaker 1Nobody thought Jey Uso was going to win. Punk got eliminated. I said, oh, jey's still in the ring, yeah well, when it got down to like the last four, I was like, oh, it's going to be Jey, it has to be. I was so worried it was going to be Cena. It to be Cena, it was going to be Cena. I was too. Yeah, I've seen clips of like. I was actually so worried it was going to be anybody in the ring.
Speaker 4Hey, what about that curb stomp? That looked like it connected.
Speaker 1I don't think we call it that anymore, we just call it the stomp.
Speaker 4That stomp that looked like it connected with, like literally connected with Roman.
Speaker 1Like he broke his nose. Yeah, it looked so bad.
Speaker 4It was so good.
Speaker 1How many times has Roman took the stomp? A lot A lot.
Speaker 4yeah, it was the best one.
Speaker 1We put respect on Roman I mean Logan yet why I love him. Clay loves the Maverick. I love the real heat that he has.
Speaker 2It is actual heat you have to say that about him, that people really do hate him and he's got legitimate heat.
Speaker 4It's not the heat he wants.
Speaker 1I love that they let him eliminate Sam Punk because he said I've never got beat by Logan Paul.
Speaker 2Yeah.
Speaker 1Who was it? I just didn't realize the layers, the depth. I think it was KO, yeah. Yeah, I love that they did that. Ko beat him. Yeah, ko got beat by him. Match was good. I was happy with the Rumble. Jay went and was awesome, everybody. The post show was good too. I mean just him walking around outside the arena, yeah, and then Jacob outside the arena.
Speaker 3Yeah.
Speaker 1And then Jacob in the back.
Speaker 4Jacob actually congratulating him. Yeah, that was cool. He's awesome, by the way.
Speaker 1I love him. That super kick to Solo and him staring him down. Yeah, Dude in the back when he said don't get it twisted. Yeah, he said something about his hair, right? No, that's my favorite one that's my favorite promo of his. But um, jacob's so good on the mic, he's so good in the ring. I watch him all the time still not letting Toma do anything, but that's okay.
Speaker 3Also, brom killed Ike he killed that dude, killed him, he's Okay. Also, bron killed Aisho Speed.
Speaker 1He definitely killed that dude, killed him, he killed him, he's dead.
Speaker 3He died, he's dead. He needed to turn like another. I don't know if he did that spot, though how.
Speaker 1I mean I feel bad for Homeboy. Akira, akira, akira. Yeah, yeah, done. That segment was pretty cool. Yeah, I love that. And um, kudos to ashley speed taking that spear logan said on his podcast. He told him how to take it, he just, he just didn't turn.
Speaker 3Yeah I don't think he had a choice, or he knew.
Speaker 1We didn't want to know what happened, uh he got hit so hard, dude, and hit the ground so hard it was insane um.
Speaker 3He said he had concussion, like the the thing him and logan did, like the tiktok or whatever with his knee. I'll screw it up. Was that fake or no? He cut his leg it was rope, it was, it was, it was matt burn I thought it was from him getting thrown.
Speaker 4Uh, either. Either way, it was matt burn, I think. I think he did have an elimination. He had an elimination.
Speaker 2He had a couple eliminations Otis.
Speaker 3Which is funny because Akira.
Speaker 1That sucks, doesn't it? Alright, we say three turnbuckles for that match yeah, we got more stuff. Touckles for that match, yeah.
Speaker 4We got more stuff to talk about.
Speaker 1I'd give it four if there was Don't, don't, don't Did you hear him Lane what. He'd give it four turnbuckles if there was one no.
Speaker 2Okay, all right, all right, all right.
Speaker 1While we're on Jay. While we're on, jay right now just want to talk about his single promos. Aren't that good? It's time we get there and we have that talk too. Is that Jay? I give Clay the giggles every time Jay cuts a promo because I was like watch, he's going to come out and be like, wasn't supposed to be here. Yeet, tag team here. Yeet. Tag team wrestler Yeet, nobody expected me to be able to do it. Yeet, my mom here. Yeah, yeah, my mom here. Yeet, my little boy here. Yeet, my family here, yeet.
Speaker 2My little brother Jimmy, here.
Speaker 1Yeet, I'm going to win the world title. Yeet, and that's all he does. He just has one-liners and waits until somebody says yeet. They said I couldn't do it. Yeet, yeah, I made an event in WrestleMania. Yeet, I mean it works. Yeah.
Speaker 3Always be yeeting.
Speaker 1Yeah, whatever Ultimate Warriors promos. He just said random shit and everybody thought it was awesome. Yeet from the earth and the demons raise up from the ground and lift the ultimate warrior to the sky. Nobody knows, that's the same thing as yeet, like there ain't no difference in it.
Speaker 4You forgot to do like the growling. You know when. Yeah, his best promo was when he was telling Hogan to crash the plane, he's like, yeah, what the Hogan assumed the controls.
Speaker 3Here's the thing about Yeet. Yeet will surpass Jey Uso. It'll be like the Daniel Bryan, yes, like the Stone Cold. What?
Speaker 1It's gonna be forever yeah.
Speaker 3I mean, it's the truth, it's gonna be forever It'll be what, what, and yes.
Speaker 1Also, it'll be yeah too, yeah.
Speaker 3Yeah.
Speaker 1Yeah and yeet. Yeah, when they fight yeah and yeet. They punch each other. Yeah, yeet. Do we think Jey Uso's going to win that title? Yep.
Speaker 4Yeah, that's quick, that's real, real hard yes, wayno does not think. So, I do think so here is why.
Speaker 3Why he's a transitional champion. He's a what? He's a transitional champion. Nobody's positioned to be. What, damn it, you'll like this. Hold on, okay, making my crazy-ass predictions that ain't gonna come true.
Speaker 1He's a what Bill of all airplanes is a little fairy, but I'm not buying it. Next thing you know your daughter's knocked up and your money's missing. I've seen it a thousand times.
Speaker 3What I've lost. It it's gone. Okay, who?
Speaker 4do you think is going to win? Jay, yeah, jay, but then what?
Speaker 3We have two babies. If Cody's still a baby just running rampant, somebody's got to chase. Cody's not going to be a baby, maybe not, but I think this is how you get to your Dom title run. I think this is how you get to your I think he's going to beat Braun Title. Run them going against. It's not realistic that anybody else can beat Gunther other than Jay. Gunther needs to go away for a while.
Speaker 1Gunther's not going anywhere.
Speaker 3No, he is not going nowhere, bro.
Speaker 1Gunther's going for the other gold, maybe, and he's going to win it.
Speaker 3But what I'm saying is I just think it's transitional, Because a heel can screw. He'll be a big baby and a heel can screw him Like Dom, like Finn KO.
Speaker 1I do not think he's going to win.
Speaker 3I think he's going to win 100%. He's going to have that WrestleMania, yeet, babyface moment. It's going to be night two. You don't think Jay's going to beat you on three. Everybody's going to be yeeting and he's going to lose it before Survivor Series.
Speaker 1I'd like to take a step back to not last year's Mania, but the year before.
Speaker 4Main event Jey Uso versus Roman.
Speaker 1That was SummerSlam Cody Rhodes versus Roman Reigns for the Universal title, and we were 100% convinced. No argument, cody's going to win. All the time Cody's going to win.
Speaker 2That was 39, wasn't it?
Speaker 1Yeah, and guess what happened.
Speaker 3He lost.
Speaker 4Cody lost he lost.
Speaker 1And it was awesome, right, because what it built to was awesome.
Speaker 3And we got there, you think we've got to wait. I think we've got to wait and we got there, you think we gotta wait.
Speaker 1I think we gotta wait. You think he wins it at.
Speaker 1SummerSlam GoTher is too good, dude, tell me why GoTher would. Why would you say GoTher needs to go away? Tell me, I want you to tell me why you think GoTher needs to go away. He's not doing anything, dude. When he comes out, the place explodes and he doesn't need it. He he probably doesn't need the title, but you also are forgetting who's running the show, right?
Speaker 1Triple H is so default wrestling of what he loves, that Gunther is the heel. Everything about him is perfect for a wrestling champion Like he's everybody. He's Harley Race. You know he's awesome Because the stuff he does is so, so real and the real shit he brings, like telling jay he's not worth it. Now I will say it's felt a lot more like jay's gonna win it. But the fact that I don't know what they do with gunther makes me wonder if jay's actually gonna win it. Because going through, the only thing Gunther can do is go after Cody. And if he's going to go after Cody, he can't go after Cody in the current state that they're in. He has to go after Cody as a baby, and the only thing he's going to go after Cody as a baby is if he loses to. Jay leaves a while. By the time he comes back. Cody's a heel and he challenges Cody.
Speaker 3I agree with that, but I do believe if Jay wins the title, he'll lose it at SummerSlam.
Speaker 1Yeah, yeah, like Wayne said, he's transitional. For sure he's not going to keep it like no other is. Is that where we're at? We're just going to do the predictions for Chamber. Yeah, sure. Winner of Women's Chamber.
Speaker 3Who's in the Chamber? Women winner of women's chamber. Who's in the chamber? I know they had the thingy, but I'm not first.
Speaker 1I want to start off with the rock and Cody thing oh yeah, he's got to tell him his answer yeah, I forgot he was doing that. I don't think that anything's going to happen.
Speaker 2I don't think anything's going to happen either.
Speaker 1I don't think he'll be like I'm not ready.
Speaker 2It's a Star Wars thing explain I don't think he'll be like I'm not ready. It's a Star Wars thing.
Speaker 4Explain oh gosh, okay, luke Skywalker and the Emperor trying to get him to go to the dark side. He's going to act like he's about to and stop and say, nope, just like Luke was, like I'm a Jedi like my father before me. He's going to say no, because he's a wrestler like his father before him. He's a son of a plumber, but it's going to build to mania, to him finally going over.
Speaker 3I think the same. It's going to take some time. Nothing's going to happen with that chamber Chamber, because I don't think they had their plan until Thursday night.
Speaker 4Yeah, that's why I said that I think it's going to be one of those things where he's going to say no, and then every week something's going to happen to Cody and then Rock's going to remind him hey, this wouldn't have happened if you were to just join me.
Speaker 3He took him out of that match, so maybe he starts manipulating his booking to a degree up until Mania. What do you think, Clyde?
Speaker 1I don't really care. My opinion, nothing's going to happen and the Rock's going to go away again. I think that's going to happen again. I think we underestimate the Rock doing this. Scorsese film is going to get picked up by Netflix and Netflix is going to hire him. And Netflix spits out movies like NXT, spits out talent like AEW, spits out five-star matches Just kidding, but that's real. The Rock is just going to go away and do something, do a show, and he's not going to be there to and once the movie bombs, he'll come back.
Speaker 1Yeah, scorsese films probably not going to bomb.
Speaker 4I don't know. The Scorsese on Netflix films bombs the only movies that make any money for Netflix.
Speaker 1Yeah, it's got Leo in it, though Leo's attached.
Speaker 4Only movies that.
Speaker 1This is not wrestling talk. I guess.
Speaker 4No, I was just saying the only movies that Netflix makes that do make money are the Russo Brothers. Yeah, and it's because the Russo Brothers know how to cast Avenger in every movie. I think I broke a chair.
Speaker 1You did break a chair. That's what I thought you'd done. I don't think anything's going to happen. I just don't. I don't think real shit's going to happen. So what's the first match in Elimination Chamber? The women's match Liv Morgan, bianca, alexa, bailey, naomi and Roxanne Something.
Speaker 4Whoa yeah.
Speaker 1Roxanne Turn on the red light. Roxanneanne Turn on the red light.
Speaker 3Roxanne Turn on the red light. The winner will challenge Rhea.
Speaker 1The winner challenges Rhea Right, not Liv, then.
Speaker 4It's not Liv. It's not Liv. I think not either. That's gotta be done?
Speaker 3Did they have the WrestleMania match, though it doesn't matter.
Speaker 1It don't matter, that's over. They've not done anything.
Speaker 4They're pushing them as a tag team. Okay, so what?
Speaker 3was the other option, charlotte beats Tiffany and then wins, and challenges Charlotte.
Speaker 1What was the other ones, Bianca?
Speaker 3Alexa, bliss, bayley, naomi and Roxanne Perez. Alexa would be interesting. It could be Roxanne. What do you?
Speaker 1mean.
Speaker 3Are they?
Speaker 1going to win the tag titles.
Speaker 3I don't think it's going to be Roxanne, are they?
Speaker 2going to win the tag titles I don't think it's going to be Roxanne.
Speaker 1Roxanne is going to eliminate immediately.
Speaker 4I wouldn't say immediately.
Speaker 1Who's going to get the first one out? Then who's first one out?
Speaker 3Probably.
Speaker 1Naomi? I don't think so, because I think Naomi's got storylines.
Speaker 3It depends on those titles too.
Speaker 1Yeah, you're right, it depends on the titles.
Speaker 3I think Jade comes back I think Jade comes back.
Speaker 4I think Jade's going to come back. Mania, yeah, but they're still building the whole Naomi act.
Speaker 1Wayne's right If they lose the titles tomorrow night.
Speaker 3And it depends on Liv as well. If she wins the titles, yeah, if.
Speaker 1Liv wins the titles, that'll be a whole thing.
Speaker 4Yeah, you're right, I think, if they lose them, bianca's going to win.
Speaker 1Well, think about the feuds. They're pushing the feuds. They're pushing the feuds. They're pushing. Is Liv and Bianca and Naomi right?
Speaker 4Yeah.
Speaker 1So that's one of the feuds. And then Alexa and Liv. Probably Nobody cares about that. Naomi and again it depends on the title match. I mean Naomi and Bianca could be enemies by the time Elimination Chamber happens.
Speaker 3You could do so much with Alexa winning or not winning yeah. She would be the go-to, but you could take her out of the match so easy.
Speaker 1Yeah.
Speaker 3Have the six come and get her or something.
Speaker 1I think Bayley's first eliminated. I think Bayley's going to win. I think Bayley's going to win as well. I think Bayley's going to win. That's kind of where I was going with it. She's the only one that would make sense to go to Rhea Bayley. You underestimate how much they love Bayley, how much WWE loves Bayley.
Speaker 3She gets a push every three weeks. I just don't like her. All right, she's got a fatty, I hear.
Speaker 1You hear it, you hear it. I heard God Whoa. He can do what he wants. There's no Black History Month.
Speaker 4Yeah, who'd you vote?
Speaker 1for. That's why I can say it. That's fair. So the women's match prediction for winner then. My prediction for winner is Bayley. I agree, I'm not happy about it, but I agree, bailey would make the most sense. Who knows, though, bro, again, we said that Punk was going to win Rumble. Again. When this comes out, we're going to know the results of the tag match.
Speaker 3They will be baby versus baby, though.
Speaker 1I know that's what I'm saying. It's going to be weird.
Speaker 3That's why I think it's going to be Liv. I hate to say it, but I think it's going to be Liv.
Speaker 4Yeah, I heard another take on the whole Rock-Cody thing was Cody's going to say no to everything and then Rock's going to turn and he's going to recruit CM Punk and CM Punk's going to be Corporation Punk.
Speaker 1I literally have goosebumps because I'm thinking about Corporation Punk. This is why it's brilliant.
Speaker 3Because we have no idea.
Speaker 1Yeah, we have no idea. Homies breaking care table if you're not.
Speaker 3It's great. We still have no idea.
Speaker 4I don't know about Bailey Wynn, because she's been putting people over in.
Speaker 3It's true. Yeah, I think I'm off the baby.
Speaker 4I'm not calling her a jobber. I'm calling her a veteran.
Speaker 1No, I agree, I don't think you're wrong, but I guess I just don't understand. I really need to see the tag match.
Speaker 2I need to see what happens.
Speaker 1Jade could come back tomorrow. You know what I mean. Shit could happen. Or Naomi or Bayley, could I mean Naomi or Bianca could win. I could see Bianca winning as well.
Speaker 2Yeah.
Speaker 1And if Bianca wins and she comes out to celebrate on Monday and Jade comes out or whatever?
Speaker 4Or Naomi could win, and then Jade comes out.
Speaker 1Naomi winning would be very disappointing. I feel like that would be sad. Next match Women's tag match Tiffany Stratton, trish Stratus, nia Jax Dude, that's a match in Elimination Chamber.
Speaker 4Yes, yeah, that sucks. They ain't gonna let Trish lose.
Speaker 1No, yeah, that sucks Intermission.
Speaker 2What are we gonna do during that?
Speaker 1time, can we just move? Yeah, I could not care any less. It has no implications whatsoever. Move along. Charlotte interferes and hits Tiffany, and then Tiffany loses, tiffany gets pinned by Nye. Whatsoever. Move along, charlotte interferes and Charlotte interferes and hits Tiffany, and then Tiffany loses, tiffany gets pinned by Nye.
Speaker 3That's what's going to happen. It's to make her a baby, to make her more of a baby.
Speaker 1Yeah, it is it's to put Tiffy over. The whole thing is to put Tiffy over. Who cares, let's go on Unsanctioned match.
Speaker 2Let's go.
Speaker 1Let's go.
Speaker 2Sorry, I'm so here for it.
Speaker 4I can't wait. I think there's going to be some callbacks to Skeens and El Generico. I do too.
Speaker 1As I said, karrion is going to interfere in that match. Clay could be right about that. I think we're going to see somebody's going to break a chair. What would you do if he came out in the mask? Lose my mind If he was El Generico, I was reading the thing on the floor. Will you just put the broken chair back in the ring, just give it here.
Speaker 4I know.
Speaker 1Added the T to the word twice. Also, what Twice, twice. I say I think so much when really I should just say it. Say it what's going to happen. Just say it what's going to happen. Tell me what's going to happen. I don't care, that's what I think you don't care. As long as they have big hardcore spots and as long as they do a package program If it's unsanctioned, I don't understand how you win.
Speaker 2That's what's a ref.
Speaker 4Why is there?
Speaker 1a ref if it's unsanctioned.
Speaker 3What in the world, I bet you, there's a bill too.
Speaker 1I hope there's like 40 package pile drivers. I don't think they'll do it, but I do think that he's going to power bomb him through something insane.
Speaker 4I think he's going to jump off of something insane.
Speaker 1Yeah, they're like, where are they? At Toronto.
Speaker 2Who's going to jump off that big tall?
Speaker 1thing in Toronto. You know what I'm talking about the needle yeah.
Speaker 4I bet they're going to have one spot where they put on hockey.
Speaker 1Hockey stuff. Yeah, did they do that last time.
Speaker 4Yeah, but they were a tag team last time.
Speaker 1Oh right, but they were a tag team last time.
Speaker 3Oh right, I don't think you have a winner they'll be putting on some sweaters.
Speaker 1I don't think.
Speaker 4I don't think a winner matters no, I think one's gonna just be knocked out you know what I think happens. Randy.
Speaker 1I think, randy, yeah, that too, but I think it leads out to the parking lot and nobody knows the winner and they just move on to the next match that'd be? Yeah, they'll be at Parking Lot Spot.
Speaker 4I don't think Randy's coming back to Mania. No, Randy's not coming back. I would like to see him come back.
Speaker 1I think Sammy wins that match. Winner doesn't matter, but I think Sammy wins that match. I think KO's just here to take L's and put people over. Well he's like 14.
Speaker 4And also it fuels more of the story. If he takes another L, then heO showing up to Sammy's house watching his kid and stuff.
Speaker 1Bro, I think KO's doing the best promo work of his life right now. The promos when he wore the tuxedo that's going to be remembered forever. The tuxedo shirt him and Cody that's going to be remembered forever.
Speaker 4That promo was awesome. All the shirts of him making fun of Dusty.
Speaker 1Yeah, dude, every time he cuts a promo he's wearing a Dusty shirt, it's always amazing, it's a makeshift shirt. And now he's wearing the jackass Sammy. Forever, sammy Forever. It's like the jackass Sammy Forever shirt, but all those promos when he's in his Lamborghini or when he's outside Sammy's house, god.
Speaker 4I told Dusty he looks like shit man.
Speaker 1He looks awful.
Speaker 4I told him too. I said, yeah, it's awesome when he cuts another promo in his car. I said, if it's ever not the Lamborghini and it's in a random car, be ready for that door to either open or a shattered window. Someone's going to pull him out of it.
Speaker 1They're not going to do it as long as he's eating his Lamborghini. Quit touching stuff, put it down. I told you, just stop touching it. It's hard. Yeah, it's still steps, come on, alright. Yeah, I agree, clay, the KO stuff is nuts. The KO at his house was crazy. Of course LA Knight did that, but Logan Paul didn't have friends or kids. The KO stuff is nuts. The KO at his house was crazy. Ko at his house was crazy. Of course LA Knight did that, but Logan Paul didn't have friends or kids.
Speaker 4No Well, I think it's a throwback to when Orton did it.
Speaker 1Louisiana.
Speaker 4Knight, because Orton did that with Triple H's house and actually broke in it was like sitting in his recliner and stuff, randy. Then he set somebody else's house on fire, Randy God it and stuff, randy.
Speaker 1Then he set somebody else's house on fire, randy God, it was Kane. Kane Burned Untaker's house down.
Speaker 4No, orton did too. He set somebody's house on fire. Then he was like the fiend.
Speaker 3Yep oh yeah, it was the Wyatt.
Speaker 1Yeah, that's. That's how the fiend came back.
Speaker 4Yeah, makes sense, cause I remember.
Speaker 1Cool story. Yeah, that was his first feud.
Speaker 2Somebody's got to burn Alexa Bliss' house down.
Speaker 1He also got a spot right.
Speaker 4Alexa Bliss shot a fireball at him in the eye. With it, too, the things that happened during.
Speaker 1COVID, it's wild. Yo, I forget about that. Covid was wild. Covid wrestling was wild. All right, Clay, what are we saying on that match?
Speaker 3I'm saying Sammy, yeah, I'm saying Sammy, everybody thinks Sammy's going to win, but who cares? Smalls.
Speaker 1Yeah, final match, the men's elimination chamber.
Speaker 4It's going to be Cena, because what's good for business is Cena winning.
Speaker 1Well, if my take is right, then Cena's obviously. What do you think, Wayne?
Speaker 3I think it has to be Cena.
Speaker 4Okay, wait, wait, wait. I've learned from someone named Heavy D that usually if they talk about it and talk about it, and talk about it and it's everywhere, then it's not really going to happen.
Speaker 3He got it without having a match too, didn't he Like he was just in there?
Speaker 1He just said he was going to do it. He was like I'm in the elimination.
Speaker 3The same thing happened kind of with Charlotte I'm in there and she won it.
Speaker 1He's a butthole right In real life. He's a weirdo in real life, weirdo yeah.
Speaker 4But like my boy over here said, if they talk and talk and talk and talk about it, it's not going to happen. It's too easy boys.
Speaker 1It's too easy for Cena. It's too easy. He's going to lose in the last second. Who else is in it? Clay, Logan, Dame, Seth Punk and Drew. First out, Logan, right, no argument, or Dame?
Speaker 4I think, dame, it's not going to win because they are already pinning a triple threat match.
Speaker 1I think Roman interferes in that match. Good possibility Because Punk and Seth.
Speaker 4They said Roman's not coming back until right before Mania, but what they're predicting and saying is it's going to be a triple threat. Cm Punk, seth Roman, let's go.
Speaker 1That'd be great, that'd be hot. Old guy party. Nobody in that match, because the match is going to be so slow.
Speaker 3So if neither of those two win and Cena doesn't win, at least what it's not going to be Drew, right?
Speaker 1It could be Drew, he could go. Could be Drew. Could be Drew, he could go back to back.
Speaker 3Yeah, we won't do Logan Cody too. That would be bad.
Speaker 1God, surely not Logan. Dame Dude, I'd love it. I don't know. I don't think they're going to push Dame. I don't think Dame's going to get it. I don't know.
Speaker 4He did that little promo, Like you know.
Speaker 1I'd honestly love it if Logan won. It's got to be Drew. It's got to be Drew.
Speaker 3I think, drew, honestly, now that I think about it.
Speaker 1Yeah, or Punk. Or Punk, because Punk didn't win Rumble, so I could see Punk doing it Because he wants to main event too. Right, that's not main event.
Speaker 4And the thing is, though, they could win, and then, all of a sudden, they get took out by somebody later on, after they win.
Speaker 2Yeah.
Speaker 4And then they're like oh, we've got to make a replacement, let's do another match. And then Cena wins.
Speaker 3A tournament roll.
Speaker 1I think Cena's going to do the same thing he did with Chamber. I think he's going to be like he's going to go out to the ring no, where he said he's going to be in chamber, oh, like, I think. I think at mania. I think he's going to keep losing his opportunities to get into mania. Yeah, I think triple h is going to give him one more chance right before mania and he's going to have a match like a one more chance match and if he gets in it, he gets to have like he's you know, it's a farewell match at mania, and he loses it too, and so he doesn't get a chance to Mania and he thinks it's over.
Speaker 1And then at. Mania. He comes out and he's like I'd love to have one last match or whatever here, and Randy comes back.
Speaker 4I like it and he wrestles Randy.
Speaker 1Good take.
Speaker 4I like it. I like it.
Speaker 1Wouldn't it be great I hear you. It would be great. Let's go, okay.
Speaker 3Yeah.
Speaker 1Got you guys on that one. That'd be good, because Randy makes sense right. I don't know if Punk makes the most sense to win that match, but Punk or Drew, but I wouldn't be surprised with anybody.
Speaker 3You got to think they're facing Cody as well, right? I don't think we can do Cody Punk. Yet I still think they're facing Cody as well, right?
Speaker 4I don't think we can do Cody Punk yet I still think they're going to do Audible I also don't think we can do, cody. I don't think the winner of Chamber is going to happen.
Speaker 1Yeah, you're probably right.
Speaker 4I think the winner of Chamber is not going to matter not happen.
Speaker 1Also if we're talking about this is the year that WWE is smashing AEW. Right, they're going to squash them. They're trying to. Yeah, doesn't it feel like they're trying to squash them. Yeah, and if they're trying to squash them, they're going to do Punk Cody.
Speaker 4That's what I was saying.
Speaker 1Yeah, oh yeah. If they're going to squash them, they're going to do Punk Cody yeah.
Speaker 4Because that up.
Speaker 1Because punk is what.
Speaker 4The best in the world, don't you freaking say it, wayne. I have a chair right here, I'll throw at you.
Speaker 3He'll break it. Punk's just a theme song. It's not a theme song.
Speaker 1It's a great theme song. It's a good theme song. Have you heard him on the mic, though? No.
Speaker 2I'm not impressed.
Speaker 4This is a little bit of AEW talk oh boo. Wait, it's not that, it's a little funny AEW talk. You guys remember when the picture circulated of Tony Khan and Shane McMahon in a business room together. Oh yeah, the picture circulated of Tony Khan and Shane McMahon in like a business room together. Oh yeah, turns out that was actually my prediction a long time ago was that Vince was trying to get Shane to buy AEW out of a shell company, just so Vince could take over another wrestling organization, while he was going down with Vince Turns out it wasn't really that's what was going down.
Speaker 4That, uh, he basically told Tony that he wanted power over everything and wanted all of it, and Tony literally walked out of the room and deleted his number and ghosted him.
Speaker 1Let me, let me put on my tinfoil hat for just a second. Okay, I put on my conspiracy theory hat. I think AEW is going to get buried because of that, because Linda McMahon is literally in the White House. Who's Linda? Linda McMahon is Vince McMahon's wife and Shane. Evidently that's all bullshit about him being disconnected from Vince. Evidently they're still a thing Like that's not Stephanie's the only one that's actually not there with Vince. They probably all are.
Speaker 4Well, they kind of all are. Yeah, because, when they were, because, Triple H showed up.
Speaker 1Why was Triple H at? Why was Triple H at that shit with Linda McMahon Family? That's crazy, though, and he took a drink of the water, and everybody thought he was going to spit the water into the air.
Speaker 4I thought he was going to also. You know what we're talking about, Wayne, that's awesome.
Speaker 1I was like dude, you know who. He took a drink of and went yeah, I could just do it.
Speaker 3Did you see that I'm the TikTok guy today? Yeah, the tiktok with uh, it's stephanie, she's in the car. She's like, oh my god, every time we go anywhere and it cuts to triple h. He's got the theme song, he's walking with the water, yeah, and like he does the whole thing and she gets in the car and he's like. She's like, do you gotta do that every time we go somewhere?
Speaker 1love it, um, but yeah, I don't. I don't think AEW is going to exist very much longer. Tony's got a lot of money.
Speaker 4I was just thinking it's funny like we were right about Shane and them trying to buy out AEW and then Tony was like you're not taking my toys away and just goes to them that's wonderful predictions for Chamber.
Speaker 3Punk? I think not Punk, not Cena. That's the only thing I'm saying.
Speaker 1Not Punk, not Cena Drew, probably Drew makes sense.
Speaker 4I'm going to roll mine back and, like I said earlier, I don't think the winner of Chamber is going to matter.
Speaker 1Yeah, you're probably right. I think it's going to matter. Yeah, you're probably right.
Speaker 4Yeah, that's probably true, I think it's going to be audible after that yeah, I can see that Someone's going to get took out and they're going to have to do another match, or something is going to happen to the winner of.
Speaker 3Chamber. I'm tired.
Speaker 1Wayne's almost unplugged.
Speaker 4The whole setup three times over here because he keeps fucking with that chair.
Speaker 2Sorry for cussing.
Speaker 3You want me back in the studio, bro? I know.
Speaker 4We want you here, brother, we want you here.
Speaker 3You gotta take all or nothing.
Speaker 1All or nothing. We're talking about AW again that. Australian show had some good. That Australian show had some good people there With the 16-foot ring. You guys said it was like a pick-fit PLA. Yeah, that's what the whole thing is. Yeah, they just have matches and bring people in from wherever.
Speaker 4They had a 16-foot ring and caused Buddy to bust his ankle.
Speaker 3That's got to be trippy. You know what I mean being in a bigger ring.
Speaker 4He said it was a cheaper ring and his foot actually slipped between the boards of the mat and it snapped his ankle.
Speaker 1It's okay, he's trying to get to WWE anyway. Oh, he's going to go now. Yeah, he's trying to get there.
Speaker 4After he made that tweet and then deleted it. Releases there were some layoffs.
Speaker 1AOP. More unpaid lunch talk Cedric Alexander Cedric. You know what I'm going to say. Some credit to WWE that they did try with Cedric. Yeah, multiple times they tried, they put him in matches he's a good wrestler.
Speaker 3He was in the Hurt Business. Cedric was in the Hurt Business a little while.
Speaker 1He's good, he's been in WWE. He's a WWE vet for a long time.
Speaker 2I just think it was probably right.
Speaker 1Also, in this wrestling climate, being released is not terrible anymore. No People who get released. You think about Elias got released and now he's come back around. Once it mattered, he preached for a little while on tiktok and then now he's back around to this hey, I'm just, he actually did that you're saying wrestling climate, again we're hitting the ring because that was weird wrestling climate, it was just it's too big of a word, sorry, my vocabulary is larger than yours, exactly um but yeah, so cedric goes to.
Speaker 1Uh aw right with her, that's that would make some sense to me.
Speaker 4Sonya Deville got released.
Speaker 1Yeah, we got ALP, alp, cedric. Your yawn was so I don't know if it was on purpose or if it was like who cares about Sonya? Deville Clay went. Oh, no more lesbians. I was like whoa Thanks, trump.
Speaker 4Back to the whole.
Speaker 2It's not the end of the world when you get released. It goes all the way back to Cody.
Speaker 4She's in the group of lesbians.
Speaker 1Oh yeah, Not anymore, no not anymore, now that. I know it was always dark and shiny. Thank God, thank the.
Speaker 4Lord, yeah, that's awesome.
Speaker 1Where's the applause button? Now that I know it was Zoe Stark and Shayna. Thank God, thank the Lord, yeah, that's awesome. Where's the applause button? That's it. This is good, we're good. I think Shayna is fine because she's a vet at this point. Just put her in NXT. And let her be in NXT and run around.
Speaker 3I don't care, as long as she keeps making those. Wow, I've mentioned TikTok a lot.
Speaker 4Zoe Stark, she does those TikToks.
Speaker 3It's another freaking Monday, another freaking stew it's her making.
Speaker 1It does feel like maybe you should. It does feel like maybe you should Pop off a little bit. Do something else, touch some grass. I've been working so much. I mean.
Speaker 4Come on now Touch some grass I'm glad they're not going to do anything with Zoe Stark Ever, because I'm glad they're not going to do anything with Zoe Stark Ever, Because I'm sick of her getting one match and then all of a sudden her opponent's gone for a month and a half.
Speaker 1Because she hired them Makes sense I keep saying 2K25 stuff and it all looks so real.
Speaker 2The entrances.
Speaker 1Every time I see an entrance I'm like oh, that looks awesome, that one you sent today. Tiffy's entrance, tiffy's entrance looks great, still looks awesome, that one you sent today.
Speaker 4Tiffy's Entrance, Tiffy's Entrance looks great.
Speaker 1Still having trouble with the belts, though I see.
Speaker 4They can never do belts good they struggle with belts, belts and hair.
Speaker 1They don't do belts and hair real good. It's okay, yeah it's fine. Have you seen it, wayne? Backstage is like the NBA games, did you?
Speaker 3play 2K20? Or 2K21, the one that got produced during COVID. That one had some issues. The real, real bad one. It was real bad.
Speaker 1To be fair, everything that came out that year sucked.
Speaker 3Character models would be like you'd be fighting somebody and they'd turn inside out and it'd be like it was terrifying.
Speaker 1Remember, the 2K sucked that year too. The NBA game sucked that year.
Speaker 3Like the ropes were real bad.
Speaker 4Well to develop games and not been in the same building with anybody. They were all like, yeah, um, it's nightmare fuel bro, um real quick, do you think? Tiffy was flirting with logan paul? No, I don't think that. I don't think so either. I think that was logan paul trying to make himself more relevant. Who? Was her filler, lucky man because he, he actually I'm going to say it's a shoot or it's a work, but Tiffy was due to be on his show and at the last second he got an announcer for Raw.
Speaker 1Oh yeah, the girl.
Speaker 4I can't remember, but anyways he got an announcer to be on the show. Clay usually knows.
Speaker 1Michael Cole.
Speaker 4He got Michael Cole to be on the show. Oh yeah, he got Michael Cole to be on the show. Clay usually knows michael cole. Michael cole to be on the show. Sorry, he got michael cole to be on the show and he told he he blasted her on and he's like well it was really supposed to be tiffy and she canceled at the last second.
Speaker 4And it was because he run his mouth and said like that off camera about him flirting or her flirting with him, and she immediately shut it down, shut it down on her social media, shut down everything, and it wasn't like it didn't feel fake. It could have been, but did it feel fake. And then she canceled, like no one's going to cancel that show because, right, you're going to get you know views always watch out there even farther.
Speaker 1I always watch chris van vliet his stuff with wrestlers. I live for Van Vliet. Yeah, he's great. I wish I was Van Vliet more than I wish I was. I don't know name a random wrestler Seampunk there you go.
Speaker 2That's probably not true.
Speaker 4I'd like to be Seampunk. Yeah, it's like the equivalent of it really shows out Charles Montgomery.
Speaker 1Punk. I watched Ludwig the other day and he's not Russian.
Speaker 4He's not, he's German.
Speaker 1Yeah, he's German. What?
Speaker 4do you mean? The group is German, the group's.
Speaker 3German bud. Whoa, who's German? We had a conversation where I got called a German when I'm German, Bubby no. What we're talking about is the same.
Speaker 1I know you're not paying attention, so you don't know what's going on. Talking about is the same. I know you're not paying attention, so you don't know what's going on, but we're talking about Ludwig, who is.
Speaker 3I was thinking about Ludwig. You were not Just then, I was Just now, you were but earlier you were talking about Vinci, I know, but I was just not thinking about Ludwig because he's not been in the ring a lot. I wonder if he needs money.
Speaker 1The fuck are you talking about?
Speaker 3He wrestles every week I water man, that's all I want.
Speaker 1All right, come on. Sorry for cussing geez, we didn't use, cousin, this show. It's clay's fault. What clay started, cousin? Um, what else, guys, we got more to talk about? Let's, let's, let's, let's, let's run it down uh releases not a release.
Speaker 3We did that. Carmella is not getting her thing renewed. Carmella, carmella.
Speaker 1I've seen that. Yeah, Carmella who cares? We talked about that. I think they're cutting women who don't wrestle. I legitimately think they're going to be like women who don't have matches and don't wrestle. I can see it. We don't need them anymore because this is not the era. It used to be Carmella, oh Carmella. That's why they released Andy.
Speaker 3With a, with a sword, andy Andy Hartwell.
Speaker 4She wrestled.
Speaker 1Where is she at? Only reason that she they released Andy Because they had plans With Candice and I.
Speaker 4They released Andy, because I'm not gonna say it.
Speaker 1She run her mouth.
Speaker 4I'm just saying they probably released Andy Because it was gonna be both, but DIY was like no, that's my wife.
Speaker 1Oh, that's probably true. He gets mad about that.
Speaker 4I do get mad about that. She's a shitty wrestler out of the two of them.
Speaker 1I agree. I agree with that. You know how I felt about Indy. I liked Indy way better than Candice. We've done Chamber predictions, so after chamber, what's the next pay-per-view Mania?
Speaker 3No, no, yeah, oh, there should be one in the middle no it's oh.
Speaker 1I guess it is Mania, April 11th 19th. 19th that's next year 11th.
Speaker 2It is, I mean, there's not anything, because Chamber's almost in March.
Speaker 3Oh yeah, chamber is a offshoot. It's one of the big ones. It goes big one offshoot, big one yeah.
Speaker 1Chamber used to be a big one, though I was watching them today. Remember when Chamber, the winner, got a title. Chamber was a match for a title and the champion almost always got eliminated in the first minute. S Chamber was, chamber was a match for a title and the the winner, the champion, almost always got eliminated in like the first minute.
Speaker 3Cena did, cena did multiple times, edge did this is almost February and then, yeah, it's almost March. I mean it's almost over as well.
Speaker 1February's almost over, yeah because, because Elimination Chamber is almost in March, right. And then got announced that Mania's February is almost over. Yeah, because Elimination Chamber is almost in March, right. And then got announced that Mania is in New Orleans next year, yeah, which is like third time.
Speaker 4Yeah, it's Mania we're going to have. Yeah, it's Mania. The small ones are. We literally have three NXT pay-per-views than Mania.
Speaker 1It's probably not real pay-per-views than Mania. It's probably not real pay-per-views, it's probably like.
Speaker 4NXT, wwe, nxt Roadblock Spring Breakin' and Stand and Deliver, see.
Speaker 1I don't think Spring Breakin' is a pay-per-view. I think.
Speaker 2Spring Breakin' is a.
Speaker 1Well, one of those is not a real pay-per-view. One of those is like a Is Roadblock. I think it's like the normal show, but bigger. You know what I mean? It's like a three-hour Spring Break is.
Speaker 2Like a three-hour.
Speaker 1What's NXT's show called? Is it just?
Speaker 3NXT Take over.
Speaker 1That's what we're talking about.
Speaker 2You guys stay with us.
Speaker 1Spring Break is when Trick won the NXT title and it popped off Mello getting over. Mello has worked his way into Wes's. I know when Mello's getting over because Wes is coming around on him a little bit.
Speaker 3His contract is almost up as well, by the way.
Speaker 1Really you think Mello will leave?
Speaker 3No, I didn't say that. I'm just saying, oh, I might be wrong. They might have said Carmella and I thought Mella, that's cool.
Speaker 1That's awesome. You knew he was going to be there.
Speaker 2Yeah.
Speaker 3Oh yeah, I love that they do that, I love that they're doing that.
Speaker 1I mean Gable and them have to wrestle in that. By the way, also, if we're releasing AOP, it's time to have a talk.
Speaker 4Wait, wait.
Speaker 1We could just release the Creed brothers. Yeah, like we, the I mean Right, because they were.
Speaker 3Are they?
Speaker 1pretty much the same, like what are they doing? I don't love to watch them wrestle. Do you love to watch them wrestle? No, their promos suck.
Speaker 4You know what I?
Speaker 1hate most about them. What Dude? I know it's the worst, the promos suck and that that laugh. This might just be heat, I can't tell, but I also just don't like them. But I don't like javier's chat is great, javier's fake, it sucks. Um, yeah, what else we got got?
Speaker 4I had something but it is gone, I'm done. You did have something I did see that they renamed the pay-per-view Clash of the Castle. It's no longer called Clash of the Castle, it's called Clash in Paris. It's in France. It's in France, but they renamed it. It's not called Clash.
Speaker 1It's.
Speaker 4Phenomenal.
Speaker 2But it's always been called, it's always been called clash of the castle.
Speaker 4Well yeah, that was kind of.
Speaker 1Now it's like clash in paris it's weird because they do have castles in france, right but and how else must be hot just for a crowd?
Speaker 3yeah that's a selling point well, I think it's.
Speaker 1It's also that's saying something about american crowds, how bad they are. It's bad that we're so hot to see a show in a different country because the crowd's going to be good Toronto we're going to see this weekend.
Speaker 3Toronto's going to be so much better than everywhere else, oh yeah, but France is probably the best one ever, at least in 10 years France's crowd's nuts.
Speaker 1I think the only thing we're going to get better is if it's in Wembley, I think that's math, though A lot more people. No, because they'll bring it smaller. They'll do it like they do. I think they'll bring it Because they can't sell it at.
Speaker 2Wembley. There's no way they can sell it at Wembley.
Speaker 3Hasn't that happened?
Speaker 4What did they sell it at Wembley? Yeah, it wasn't sold out.
Speaker 3Did it not? No, it was sold out.
Speaker 1Their seating was sold out. Wembley's in London. Are you sure that they?
Speaker 3didn't sell it in Wembley with Bulldog Park. I think they brought it in though.
Speaker 1I don't think they can sell it Anyway. Either way, anytime we're going to get a soccer hooligan crowd, it's when we're going to have a good show, Because France, people are that's why they want NFL teams in Europe is because the fans are crazy.
Speaker 2People love to see the.
Speaker 1Jaguars play in Europe. That's crazy. Brazil is awful. I don't like that they do.
Speaker 2That was weird.
Speaker 1But France, we're excited about that. Oh, absolutely.
Speaker 3That'll be great. There's probably some more time for this on another show. No, go off. What do we think about the Hall of Fame predictions? Oh yeah, oh yeah.
Speaker 1We got Triple H.
Speaker 4Taker's wife.
Speaker 1Taker's wife is the random female.
Speaker 3Is that confirmed? Stephanie McMahon? No, not.
Speaker 1Stephanie, I'm here for Triple. I mean Triple.
Speaker 4H is confirmed.
Speaker 1Yeah, mccool.
Speaker 2What's her first name? That's what it said. I don't know Michelle McCool.
Speaker 3Okay, I didn't know her first name, demolition, got signed to a Legends contract.
Speaker 2Are they in?
Speaker 3Demolition.
Speaker 1Demolition Are they?
Speaker 3in it already. That could be possibly them when they got the Legends contract.
Speaker 1Right, I don't think they're in it already and it's just the 12 crushes passed away All I can say is we're finally getting some demolition figures. Yeah, okay, we didn't do follow the figs, follow the figs. Figures got announced, finn Balor, which is not surprising, I guess. Final boss.
Speaker 4Second final boss.
Speaker 1we've got the second final boss figure and then Bray Wyatt stuff. We're not going to follow those figs.
Speaker 2He's probably not going to win, obviously.
Speaker 1Well, yeah, what's the next show? Boys, we'll do show and color. I mean, we'll do, yeah, raw is coming up, obviously, but we'll do Elimination Chamber predictions.
Speaker 4Next episode, I mean review no review Review.
Speaker 3Yeah, go over it, it's what Saturday? Yeah, Saturday All right, boys El Nino, yeah oh.
Speaker 1Ring the damn bell. Yay, oh, ring the damn bell. This is awesome, this is awesome.