We Compare Clean-Cut Shows To Edgier Shows And Ask Why One Crowd Roared While The Other Sat Silent

Ever leave one show thinking, “That was fine,” and another feeling like your voice is gone and your heart’s in your boots? That was our weekend. We hit AMW in Lexington for a TV-taped card with a quiet crowd and then landed in Kingsport for Innovate’s packed house, where a cage dropped, Crazy Steve took a beating, and the stakes made the room quake.

We break down why some live events simmer while others detonate. At AMW, the production was tight, the Good Brothers were the magnet, and the family-friendly guardrails shaped the night’s ceiling. A sharp swerve—Wes Barker drilling Marty Clay after a hand-raise—spiked the drama and set up a feud with real legs, even if the broader crowd never fully woke up. Then Innovate flipped the script: an Iron Man burst, a swollen card that ran over, and a main-event cage fight for control of the school. Dan showed up in face paint with the Net Pro flag, bolt cutters chewed through steel, and the building turned into an engine. It wasn’t just blood or language; it was clear consequence. That’s what makes fans roar.

We swap food notes (yes, the chili dogs won), shout out rising names and veterans, and kick around who’s inside “the box”—from Demon Finn to Danhausen to a sneaky 2K tie-in. We also connect today’s grit to old-school craft, from Nikita Koloff’s lived kayfabe to a perfect New Jack and Ricky Morton merch hustle. Around here, the roots run through schools, seminars, and a million autographs; you can trace a line from the Rock ’n’ Roll days to these indie nights where the room still decides what’s real.

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Hot-Start Intro And Banter

SPEAKER_05 0:17

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SPEAKER_04 0:35

Noah. What? Claybo. Ye wes. And I'm Heavy D, the Work A Shoe Podcast. And if we don't like that, you got two words for ya.

SPEAKER_00 0:49

No, ye.

SPEAKER_05 0:55

Claybo, the champ is here. The champ is here. No, it died.

SPEAKER_00 0:59

It's still no, it's still one word, Clay. I still don't know if you're bit. I don't know if you're bitting us or not at this point.

SPEAKER_05 1:05

Wayne's not here again. It's no mageddon again. It seems to be shoot. Yeah. Neither one of those. Workershoot Wayne. That's just the category.

SPEAKER_03 1:22

Workershoot Wayne. Drake. Come here. Wayne's at work. So. Look. Workershoot Drake gets on here on cue faster than Wayne.

SPEAKER_05 1:33

He's already here more than Wayne is.

SPEAKER_03 1:35

Watch this. Watch this. Drake.

Indie Weekend Setup

SPEAKER_05 1:37

That's twice. This is Monday, February 23rd. And there was a weekend of indie wrestling.

SPEAKER_03 1:53

Um I'm jealous, you guys, but I'm so jealous.

SPEAKER_05 1:56

Yeah, for y'all. Just works. West just works.

SPEAKER_03 2:00

Yeah. One of us had her being adult this weekend. Yeah. Y'all are most of the time the adult, and I'm not. Hey. My basketball season's over.

SPEAKER_02 2:12

Yeah, but you'll sign up for something else.

SPEAKER_05 2:14

It's basketball season. No, it's basically over.

SPEAKER_01 2:17

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 2:19

Yeah. But that tracks. Those are those are over when it rains, and they're usually early. So we can get to wrestling. Yeah. Exactly. So two shows since we recorded. We've been to two shows since we recorded. Uh AMW. That was in Lexington, right? In Lexington, Lexington Ice.

SPEAKER_03 2:42

Okay. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 2:44

And um Innovate. Innovate Pro Wrestling at Netflix Studios. Beautiful Bobby Eaton. Kingsport, Tennessee.

SPEAKER_03 2:56

Ooh, yeah. I've been there. It's awesome. I didn't get to go to that show, but I know that venue.

AMW Lexington Venue And Vibe

SPEAKER_05 3:03

That venue is so much fun. Wes, there's something about that venue you don't know that they were talking about at this show because it was the birthday for like it was Innovate's birthday. Oh, cool. But what you don't know. Yeah, it was Innovates' birthday. I figured that about halfway through the show. Well, there was like a 35-minute promo video, uh, Dan and them, and it just and like everybody everybody went to sleep like halfway through the show. Um show went over, which is awesome. We got free wrestling. There was so much. Um God went way over. It was like an hour. Yeah. And we got there, and Dan was having an Iron Man match. Uh Danger Dan versus uh what's his name, Noah?

SPEAKER_00 3:47

Uh Xander Xander Hendrix.

SPEAKER_05 3:49

Xander Hendrix. Xander Hendricks. You know, remember he's the tall, bald dude, real, real chill.

SPEAKER_00 3:55

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_01 3:56

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 3:59

He makes with uh Knox, Fort Knox.

SPEAKER_00 4:03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 4:04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 4:05

The love child of uh Christian and test. Yes, Charlie.

SPEAKER_05 4:10

Yeah, that's what he looks like. But Dan had that Dan had that Iron Man match when we got there, and then he wrestled again in the cage match later that night. But that was cage match was awesome, by the way. Cage match was awesome, but we're getting ahead of ourselves. We're getting ahead of ourselves. Okay, sorry. Before that, me and Noah, just me and Nono uh were went to uh Lex and Ice.

SPEAKER_03 4:39

Okay. No, you and Clay. I mean me and Claybo.

SPEAKER_05 4:43

Me and Claybo. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm sorry. I got lost in it. Yeah, just me and Klebo.

SPEAKER_03 4:47

You got y'all mixed up. You're both taller than him.

SPEAKER_05 4:50

Gosh, go to so many shows with so many people here. Um yeah, we we went to uh we went to that show, the AMW show at Lex Fedice.

Recording For TV And Flat Crowd

SPEAKER_03 5:02

So how was it? I mean, I seen some pictures, some videos. It looked like it was a full crowd. There was a full crowd.

SPEAKER_05 5:11

Here's the thing. Full crowd, but weak.

SPEAKER_03 5:17

Really?

SPEAKER_05 5:18

Yes. The crowd was quiet, man. Like, I don't know, it was weird. The matches got started like quick and ended quick. There was no build-up, and I know it's because they're recording TV, but the fans just did not get into it. The fans were not into it. We were into it because we're into it all the time.

SPEAKER_03 5:41

Yeah. Do you think it's because they were recording? Like, and it was going like fast. No. Alright, here's the thing. Everybody was only there for the Good Brothers.

SPEAKER_05 5:51

And you could tell as the show was going on, because every other match that was not cheering until the Good Brothers got on.

SPEAKER_03 6:02

Yeah. And also So it wasn't fan, it wasn't fans of wrestling, it was fanboys of the Good Brothers that just wanted to see the Good Brothers.

SPEAKER_05 6:12

Also, it was a little bit of what you said too. Like I don't know how to say this. I was informed that because they record the shows, you know, when they're recording, the shows are different when they're recording. Yeah. Because they have the matches have to fit in the show. Which I get. But and again, I'm just trying to have transparent reviews of shows. And my transparent review of that show is it's not um it's not the best AMW show I've been to. It might be my least favorite AMW show I've been to. Uh just because the venue's cool, but it's it was kind of hard. You had to walk a while to get back there. Like you had to go through the whole building. It's hard to find. Yeah. It's hard to find. There was it's like there's like a skating rink, or there's like an ice skating rink, and then you walk through another door, there's a basketball court, and then you walk through another door, and there's yeah, AMW.

SPEAKER_03 7:24

It'd be cool if they did a spot on the ice skating rink.

Good Brothers Effect On Reactions

SPEAKER_05 7:27

I know, I know, I know. That's why I was thinking. I was like, you the opportunity's there. There was also a balcony, so the opportunity was there for like balcony dive and stuff too, but I know that like the the stark contrast between um the stark contrast between the AMW show and the innovate show is significant. Because for example, there's no cussing at all with AMW. And definitely not, and definitely not when I tried to start a you fucked up chant. You did not. Listen, he tried to start it, and there was a little kid in front of us, and he said, You effed up, and the mom looks and goes. She gave him the dirtiest look I've ever seen in my life. She gave me pretty good. Yeah. Um, and I was like, I turned to Clay and was like, Well, that's can't win them all. And then which I mean Innovate was different, though. Facts we did innovate last night, and everybody flips everybody off.

SPEAKER_00 8:43

Okay, yeah. I love it. God, I love it so much.

SPEAKER_05 8:47

Yeah, but even the kids are flipping them off. The faction of kids flip the faction is better than it can be.

SPEAKER_03 8:53

Oh yeah. Yeah. That's where we love them.

SPEAKER_02 8:57

Um Nicholas.

SPEAKER_03 8:59

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 9:00

Blackwell.

SPEAKER_05 9:03

Uh Nick was going to be a gift tonight, but he got booked tonight. So he got booked for a wrestling show tonight instead of being able to be on the show. So hopefully next week we'll have Nick Blackwell. Uh he wrestled the innovate. Uh, see him wrestle at NWA. And he's with uh AMW tonight. AMW actually had a show, not tonight, but tonight is last night.

SPEAKER_03 9:25

Last night.

SPEAKER_05 9:26

Sunday night, AMW it has a show with Jay Lethal in Corbin. Corbin.

SPEAKER_03 9:32

Yeah. At the Corbin Civic Center.

Family-Friendly Rules vs Edgy Energy

SPEAKER_05 9:36

Yeah, we've been there. Well, I'm gonna just let you know if I if I knew I didn't have school, I think we could have gone. Oh man, if I knew you didn't have school, we'd have gone and sailed out. So if we didn't if we knew that was a plan. Yeah, we'd be we'd have been there. But alas, we didn't. And we still watch wrestling. And and we had a great weekend of wrestling. And the AMW show, there were there's always standouts. Uh Marcus, Marcus is awesome. Greg was there. We got to talk to Greg, the referee. Um, we got to talk to Lifeguard Ross. We're trying to get him on.

SPEAKER_03 10:12

Was Lifeguard Ross there too? Did he go book for that show? Ross was awesome.

SPEAKER_05 10:16

He got squashed, though. He got squashed.

SPEAKER_00 10:18

Yeah. Yeah, he wrestled Zodi, didn't he?

SPEAKER_05 10:20

Yeah, he wrestled Zody after he got squashed.

SPEAKER_03 10:23

Like beat quick. That's usually what happens. Not saying that about him, saying about someone coming in. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 10:34

Which at the same at the same time, I'm reckon Zody's trying to go like a Jake the Snake route, too, so it could be because of that.

SPEAKER_05 10:41

Yeah. That's that's what it feels like.

SPEAKER_00 10:43

I mean, the DET's his finisher too, so that's because you know, uh you got Nate went the buzzsaw route, you know, Brandy Savage. Yeah, and then Zody, you know, he he cut did the mustache and he's like channeling his inner uh Jake Robertson. I like that.

SPEAKER_03 11:00

That's cool.

SPEAKER_05 11:02

I just hate it because I love lifeguard Ross, and he works his tail off and he just got squashed in it. I don't know. Yeah, I guess I guess they usually don't see him get squashed in any of the shows I've been to. Yeah, and he he's usually he's usually like winning or up that or you know on the winning team.

SPEAKER_00 11:27

Yeah.

Standouts, Squashes, And Characters

SPEAKER_05 11:27

He's also gonna get his because he's so good. He'll get his. It won't matter. He'll go for it. Yeah, it won't matter. But the the food review for uh for AMW. So we got the the what they have. The food review what they have. So dude, they had they had corn dogs, hot dogs, nachos and cheese, um pretzels, popcorn. Clay's not been totally clear. I mean, they had all kinds of stuff. Clay's not been totally clear. The ice rink has a concession. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But inside the AMW venue, there was a vendor with like pizza. But the ice rink has a concession that you can go to, and it has nothing to do with AMW. Like it has nothing to do with anything.

SPEAKER_00 12:20

It was double concessioned up, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 12:23

And and Clay Clay went out there and got good food.

SPEAKER_00 12:27

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_05 12:28

And so that was that was good. I didn't I don't think I ate anything at that show, but Clay did.

SPEAKER_03 12:34

No, you didn't, you didn't. Clay, did everything you named off, did you eat all of that? No, I only ate nachos and peace. Only nachos?

SPEAKER_04 12:42

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 12:43

And I got I wanted to know how the corn dogs tasted. Hey.

SPEAKER_05 12:48

It was just like two hours. The show was short, wasn't it, Clay? Oh, was it? It was short. We were done super early. Yeah. It was about nine o'clock by the time we got out there. Maybe eight. It was eight. Wow. It was six to eight. Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 13:05

That's weird.

SPEAKER_05 13:06

It was very surprising. Yeah, because I think it was like they recorded an hour of the first episode, an hour of the second episode. Plus, how about this? Wes Barker turning on Marty Clay. Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 13:17

Dude. Y'all mentioned that.

SPEAKER_05 13:20

What was what was going on? Marty hit him with a big axe. Go ahead, Clay. He hit him with a big boot. Yeah. He was like congratulating him for his win or whatever because he helped him win. And West raises his hand and just looks at the camera and turns around and big boots him. And I missed it. I was texting somebody or writing down notes or something. And I missed it. Dad starts pulling my hair and like pulling my ear.

SPEAKER_03 13:52

I was like, Don't lie. Don't say you were to you were writing down notes. You were texting that girlfriend. I probably was.

SPEAKER_05 14:02

And I was like, oh my God. And then he elbowed, you know, put the he put the elbow on him.

unknown 14:07

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 14:10

And that was uh yeah, that was that was awesome. That was the best part of the night. Marty getting turned on.

SPEAKER_00 14:17

I won't lie. That for AMW, that already I would say could potentially be like feud of the year.

SPEAKER_05 14:25

Oh, for sure. That's gonna be an awesome thing. Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 14:27

Yeah. Well you gotta think, like Marty is like their Cody. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_05 14:33

Oh yeah, yes.

Concessions Report And Short Show

SPEAKER_00 14:34

And and and and and having Wes with Marty, you know, automatically shot Wes up there and put him, you know, damn near on a pedestal, you know, automatically. So him turning on him, that's that's that's gonna be fun.

SPEAKER_03 14:47

Yeah, he got I want to know who gets to take home the merch table now because they both had a merch table together. Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_05 14:57

Well he had a Freelander shirt on that when he came out, I was like, Clay, that Freelander shirt's gonna be.

SPEAKER_00 15:03

It was so sick. I saw the clip of it.

SPEAKER_05 15:05

And then he ripped it. I was like, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 15:09

That's that's pretty great though. That's good. That's good, uh, that's good writing.

SPEAKER_05 15:13

Yeah, it was. It was yeah, we we really enjoyed that. Um that was the best part of the show for sure.

SPEAKER_00 15:19

But like I said, it's won't lie though. Huh? I'm sorry, but I said I won't lie though. I really they they turned them sooner than I thought.

SPEAKER_05 15:29

Me too. Yeah. We figure maybe Marty's getting called. Yeah, we think like whenever he loses that title, that we figure that maybe he's getting called up.

SPEAKER_03 15:40

I'd say it'd be very likely. That'd be cool. I wonder where he'd be going.

SPEAKER_05 15:45

I mean, he's worked with AEW a few times, right? Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 15:51

He's worked with AEW and WWE.

SPEAKER_05 15:53

Yeah, I know, but he's worked with AEW more, I think.

SPEAKER_03 15:56

I thought he worked with WWE. Maybe I'm wrong.

SPEAKER_05 15:59

He was in Lexington.

Shock Turn: Wes Barker vs Marty Clay

SPEAKER_03 16:00

Yep. I thought he's he's done a couple shows with he's gone, he's done two with WWE. Because he was at John Cena's yeah, he was at John Cena's final match. Right, yeah. As a security guard. Like we see he was out there when everybody was surrounded the ring, he was out there with them. And he was he was a security guard in Lex whenever we went to the club. In Lexington, yeah. Shout out, Marty. Shout out Marty getting getting over everywhere.

SPEAKER_00 16:28

Not just that, too. The two WWE shows that he worked, he got to work like with Cena.

SPEAKER_03 16:33

Yeah, yeah. Which is insane. Both shows we've seen. That's crazy, dude. We're hoping the last show was the final match, it seems too. He was there for the like part of history.

SPEAKER_00 16:48

He he got and not just that, and Lexington, he worked with Cena as a heel and then final match. You know, he worked with him as a baby. The Cena we all know and love.

SPEAKER_02 16:57

Yeah, that's funny.

SPEAKER_05 17:00

So I think the AMW show overall, like it was it, we had a good time because it's wrestling. Like we always have a good time with wrestling. We got to see we got to see Z, and you know, Z's Z's match was pretty cool. Did Z have his new new gear? He did have his new gear. Yes. Yeah, it looked awesome. Very good.

SPEAKER_00 17:23

Shout out Zodie for making it too.

SPEAKER_05 17:26

Yep.

SPEAKER_03 17:27

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 17:28

Yeah, Zodie's the one that made it.

SPEAKER_03 17:31

So what what was his gear like now? What's it look like?

SPEAKER_05 17:34

Um purple, wasn't it, Clay? Um, yeah, I think so.

SPEAKER_00 17:39

It's like some purple and maroon and a little couple different colors.

SPEAKER_05 17:43

It's wild, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 17:44

It's very nice. I can't wait to see it. I love Z. Like homeboy did good.

SPEAKER_05 17:53

Yeah, he's a lot of fun. But yeah, that show. That show was good. We had a good time. Uh like I said, not my favorite show. But I think they missed the opportunities to do some really cool stuff in that in that that venue. Uh, there's some there's some really good opportunities.

SPEAKER_03 18:15

Huh? They probably didn't have permission either. I don't know, man. They don't do anything hardcore. Like, there's nothing. Yeah, I just I was just thinking if they were going to try to do like a spot on the balcony, if someone like you'd probably be like, no.

Speculation On Call-Ups And AEW/WWE Spots

SPEAKER_05 18:32

It wasn't that high. And as far as permission goes, there's they're not really they're not edgy. Like they're not even one percent edgy. You know what I mean? Like they're so not edgy that when somebody showed blood, it was like the most main event thing ever for them. Like, you know what I mean? Like when when when Marty got cut up in that in war games, about oh my god, because they're just not edgy. They're just very stuffed animal Darby is more edgy than they are. Yeah, they're very they're very down the down the down the line, clean, you know, every bit of it. And that's for some people. To be honest with you, I I need a little more, I need a little more grit in my wrestling. And and that's why innovate, innovate always, innovate kind of gets my juices flowing better than most places do because innovates edgy.

SPEAKER_00 19:29

God, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 19:30

Innovate slang, they just let it go. It's uh that's a big callback to uh to a show that me and Noah watch that y'all need to start watching called Heels. I know it's that's a big callback because both brothers are the wrestlers. One owns the business, uh Stephen and Mill does, but he's all about clean and his brothers want it greedier, and they buckheads about it because his brother like dropped an S-bomb on one episode, and like he goes back, he's like, Did you hear him curse? Like, mad as crap about it.

SPEAKER_00 20:07

Like, honestly.

SPEAKER_03 20:08

He's like, We got kids out here.

SPEAKER_00 20:10

The best the best way to put that show is like imagine you got two brothers and one works for KCW or AMW and the other one works for Innovate or wants to go that route, and another one wants to go out. Innovate or in WA. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 20:24

Yeah, and I just think that's kind of I don't know.

SPEAKER_05 20:30

I think people look for something else. And what kind of gets proven to me is that the crowd is better at the edgy shows. It just is, dude. The clean cut shows, the crowd is dead, people are just hanging out, they're not there's nothing super exciting going on. Like the biggest thing that happens is there's a run out, which doesn't run out every single match. Right, that innovate show was one of the best crowds I've ever heard of any of the show. Honestly, one of the best crowds ever.

SPEAKER_00 20:55

Yeah. And and and I'll I'll put it like this too, and I've always it's always been like my method. If you want to make or get someone kind of into wrestling or get their attention, show them the edgy shit.

SPEAKER_01 21:08

Yeah.

Missed Opportunities At The Rink

SPEAKER_00 21:08

You know, whether it's like whether it's just you know, classic ECW or or something along those lines, or just straight deathmatch stuff, like you want to get someone's attention. Yeah, or attitude area. You want to get someone's attention, show them, show them something with some grit. So they're like, oh, okay. Rather than like show them, show them Kinsey from uh NWA. That would get a lot of old men become fans if they weren't already. Yeah, yeah. A lot of pervs as fans.

SPEAKER_03 21:37

Like, I don't think people were I think that's why half of them were old men there at the NWA show. That's probably very valid.

SPEAKER_05 21:43

I don't think the first match you should show somebody is you know, Steven Regal versus Dean Malenko. You know, or Brent Like there needs to be some sort of you you know, show them the ladder or show 'em the TLC match, you know, where Ed speared Jeff off the off the ladder. Like show up that's the best moment in all of all of wrestling. Like our mankind getting thrown off. You're not like you remember that time that remember that time that Steven Regal reversed a hip toss into a in a into a Abdominal stretch, you know what I mean? Nobody ever says that.

SPEAKER_00 22:21

Yeah. Yeah. So you know, it's like, do you remember when Jeff Hardy jumped off 300-foot uh scaple or something?

SPEAKER_05 22:29

Yeah, you remember when mankind got straight off a house, basically?

SPEAKER_00 22:33

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 22:33

Yeah, remember when Kevin Nash picked up little ray material and threw them into a trailer wall.

SPEAKER_00 22:40

Yeah. Or when Big Show, or when Big Show swung Ray like a baseball bat on that on that uh stretch.

SPEAKER_04 22:49

Yeah, oh my god.

SPEAKER_03 22:51

Real cops about that moment. Real cops showed up because uh the people watching in Tampa Locals thought it was real, so they actually called the cops and they actually showed up to arrest them.

SPEAKER_01 22:59

Big show.

Why Gritty Shows Hook New Fans

SPEAKER_05 23:01

Big Show says he recalls when he did that, having to keep a straight face, but thinking he killed Ray Mysterio Jr. He was like, Oh my god, I've killed Ray Mysterio.

SPEAKER_00 23:12

Dude strapped up like this and falls flat on his face. I know.

SPEAKER_05 23:20

Boy takes legendary. Classic, man. Go. Go.

SPEAKER_00 23:25

Uh hey, which speak speaking of big show.

SPEAKER_05 23:30

Oh, yeah. The little kid at your vendors, mom. Yeah. That little kid's awesome. I can't I I gotta be that little kid. Biggest big show fan I ever seen.

SPEAKER_00 23:43

I like my day so much.

SPEAKER_03 23:44

It's so funny that y'all mentioned that because today I was at work and I got a text message from um um Tyler. Shout out Tyler, aka Dutch. Um, and he he said, Me and the wife went out thrifting today. He said, Man, we stopped at this uh this place in Pacful. And he said, Man, I swear if uh he's like, they have this one section that it looks just like you and Dusty and all of them just run it, man. It looks like something that y'all would put together. I was like, and Pikeful? Yeah, he's like, Yeah, I was like, is it peddlers? And he went, Yeah, how'd you know? I was like, because we do run it. Because yeah, doing that, yeah, you're right. It does look like we do it.

SPEAKER_00 24:27

You know that like a split split hog.

SPEAKER_03 24:29

Yeah, yeah. But it's just hilarious. Like sooner, he's like, yeah, it has your names written all over, dude. You gotta go see it, man. I was like, Yeah, it does, because it literally does have our names written all over. It's T4 Toys.

SPEAKER_05 24:42

Yeah, that's cute. I like that. Thanks for that. Thanks for that. Uh, but yeah, the innovate show, uh, shout out faction. We try to follow them a little bit everywhere. The Jeffs. Uh the Jeffs. Yeah, Clay's wearing the faction shirt.

SPEAKER_04 25:00

There we go.

Innovate Kingsport: Packed, Loud, Unfiltered

SPEAKER_05 25:01

We've seen, we've seen all our all our all our wrestling friends at the innovate show. Bronson Garrett, best worker I've ever seen at a wrestling show.

SPEAKER_00 25:14

He is so awesome. Bronson Garrett, oh, yeah. That's with the faction. Yeah, dude, he God, he knows how to work a crowd.

SPEAKER_02 25:23

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 25:23

Okay, so about about the innovate show. How is the food?

SPEAKER_00 25:32

Good as ever.

SPEAKER_03 25:33

Funny you ask.

SPEAKER_00 25:34

My eyes are bigger than my stomach, but the hot dog.

SPEAKER_03 25:37

How much food? Wait, wait. First, first, before you rank the food, I want to know how much food didn't know what's the bill on himself.

SPEAKER_05 25:43

None because he only ate one hot dog, and so he he left the other one down. Okay. Because the hot dogs bust through the buns, and like the buns don't hold them. So then you're just eating them. Yeah, you're trying to squeeze the hot dog wiener between the buns with the chili running out the top of it, and Clay's hands over the chili. And he just at one point he looked at me like this. He had chili all over him, and there were no napkins. I was like, just go, man.

SPEAKER_03 26:09

Just go.

SPEAKER_00 26:10

That's hilarious. After eating the chili dog, he looked like Crazy Steve after the uh steel cage.

SPEAKER_05 26:15

He did. God, Crazy Steve was awesome, dude. Yeah, he missed it. Crazy Steve? So awesome.

SPEAKER_02 26:26

He's uh legally blind, Crazy Steve?

SPEAKER_00 26:29

Yes.

SPEAKER_02 26:30

Yes. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 26:32

And he whooped ass, I'll tell you that.

SPEAKER_05 26:34

Yeah, he was quite guaranteed. Yeah, he was awesome. The the so the beginning of the cage match, this is the main event, so I guess we're going forward a little bit, but the the main event was Illuminati versus Innovate. Like Innovate team versus Illuminati team for control.

SPEAKER_00 26:54

No, it was the school.

SPEAKER_05 26:55

It was Netpro versus Innovate. That's right, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 26:59

NetPro versus Innovate.

SPEAKER_03 27:00

No, Net Pro versus Illuminati.

SPEAKER_00 27:02

Illuminati.

SPEAKER_03 27:03

Oh, Net Pro versus Illuminati. Sorry, got me mixed up there.

SPEAKER_00 27:07

And if Illuminati won the match, then they took over the school, and it would have been the school of Illuminati. Oh, God. Yeah.

Cage Match Stakes And Crazy Steve

SPEAKER_05 27:16

So I thought Illuminati was gonna win. They did a 35-minute video package about like of them building the whole place, and they gave out awards of like, and it felt like a goodbye thing. Like a mural or whatever. So the Illuminati won. No, Illuminati lost. But what I was gonna say is the match started with Crazy Steve was the first one in the ring with Illuminati, and then Illuminati hit him and locked the door. And so they had him in the ring for probably like 10 minutes, seven or eight, nine, ten minutes. Oh, yeah. And beating the snot out of him, like with everything, and he just took everything. Took everything. Yeah, eventually he hulked up and knocked them all out, and Dan cut the cage with ball cutters.

SPEAKER_00 28:11

Yeah. Let's talk about Dan with the face paint, too. Because you you got, you know, Dan was tagging with Crazy Steve and Crazo. So, you know, they both rocked the face paint. And so I was expecting Dan to just come back out in the gear that he was, you know, his gear from he wore an Iron Man match. Yeah. And honestly, I like the route that he went on for the for the match. He just came out in his net pro shirt, you know, some pants. He had his face painted, you know, to go with Steve and Crazo. Dude. Yeah, dude. He walked out, had the big, big net pro flag face painted. I was like, oh shit. It was awesome, dude.

SPEAKER_05 28:46

It was awesome.

SPEAKER_03 28:47

Heck yeah, man.

SPEAKER_05 28:49

Like it was done in the uh we got to we got to talk to Dan after the show, Wes, and uh told him about me wanting to start training.

SPEAKER_01 28:57

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 28:58

He said uh all I need to do is get mom and dad to sign a waiver, and I can come in and start training. And said I can start off as a referee and do sound and all that stuff for them.

SPEAKER_03 29:13

Dude, yeah, that's your foot in the door. Also, it's not you need to get mom and dad to sign the waiver. You already got dad sign it. You gotta talk to your mom into it. I gotta get mom to do it. When you pitched it to her, they said sometimes.

SPEAKER_00 29:28

Sometimes it's better to ask for forgiveness than permission.

SPEAKER_05 29:31

Yeah. Yeah, we know about that. Uh the but the the innovative show, there were nine matches, not including the Iron Man match.

SPEAKER_03 29:42

Yeah, yeah. Yeah, that one lasted, uh went over. How many were there? There was eleven there was like a left eleven or twelve.

SPEAKER_05 29:48

Oh, okay. Oh, that's crazy. Because a match remember a match got added because Brandon Hart sock Brandon Hart stock and Andy Octopus Andy Octopus. Oh, what what about the the hair versus career match?

SPEAKER_00 30:04

Wayne Atkins' career is over.

SPEAKER_03 30:05

Bro, yeah, Wayne Atkins was over. Yeah, I was about to say that boy's hair was long. He wasn't about to cut it.

SPEAKER_05 30:09

Wayne Atkins lost. It was crazy. I seen him after the show and I was like, good career, man. It was weird. I have I have a feeling it's not the end of it. Um it didn't feel like it. They're moving though. They're going somewhere else.

SPEAKER_00 30:26

Because he did say he said something about he wants to be in a place where he can comfortably fit 500 people.

SPEAKER_03 30:32

Yeah, so they're they're moving out of that.

SPEAKER_00 30:34

I think 500 innovate show with 500 people. My God.

SPEAKER_05 30:40

Bro, I think I think 500 will show up. Yeah. Yeah. If you build it, they will come.

SPEAKER_00 30:47

Absolutely.

SPEAKER_05 30:49

They will come. They will come. They will come.

SPEAKER_00 30:52

They will come.

SPEAKER_05 30:53

They will come. Wes say it.

Dan’s Iron Man And Face Paint Entrance

SPEAKER_03 30:56

Three feet. Oh, y'all don't remember that, Pinch, do you?

SPEAKER_05 31:01

No, I don't know what's going on. Uh oh yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 31:09

Okay, so just get go ahead.

SPEAKER_05 31:12

No, you're good. Go.

SPEAKER_00 31:13

Oh no, I was just gonna tell Wes just to say they will come.

SPEAKER_05 31:16

They will come.

SPEAKER_00 31:17

I will come.

SPEAKER_05 31:18

Wow. No.

SPEAKER_03 31:22

Oh Clay, get your mind out of the gutter, bud. Your dad's on here.

SPEAKER_05 31:28

He wasn't there.

SPEAKER_03 31:29

Um, so the Krazo's so over. Just Romanos.

SPEAKER_00 31:38

Dude, insane.

SPEAKER_03 31:39

Dude, I love Crazo. Like just everything about his gimmick and all. It's just so perfect.

SPEAKER_01 31:45

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 31:47

Learn something about him. He is a guy.

SPEAKER_05 31:48

He might be a guidance counselor.

SPEAKER_00 31:49

I know. I think he's still easy.

SPEAKER_05 31:51

He is one. He might still be. Yeah. Yeah. He's a guidance counselor in school.

SPEAKER_04 31:56

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 31:57

He said he told the story at the end of that show. He said uh this kid was getting buoyed because he had a Cody Rhodes shirt on, and they were saying, like, wrestling's fake and it's scripted and stuff. And said Crazo came up to him and said, um, wrestling's not fake. I'm actually a pro wrestler. And like, and told him it wasn't fake, and they left him alone. Good. Beat him up. Keep him through them.

SPEAKER_00 32:25

Which he said that too, getting what was it, the Bobby Eaton Brotherhood Award, something like that.

SPEAKER_05 32:32

They only give one out. He got one and Crazy Steve got one. Crazy Steve got so two out.

SPEAKER_03 32:40

What's funny about him him being a guidance counselor is you know, he gets paid to talk to kids and see how their feelings are and things. And then he's crazy though, so no one knows what he's feeling because he has seven different personalities in his head.

SPEAKER_00 32:56

Exactly.

SPEAKER_03 32:57

Yeah, I love it.

SPEAKER_05 32:59

I think it's it's he's great. He's he's over. He took the he's the one that dove on the table.

SPEAKER_00 33:04

Um did he from from the top of the cage.

SPEAKER_03 33:08

How is the cage? Does the cage look good? Dude.

Training Talk And Getting A Foot In The Door

SPEAKER_05 33:11

Dude, the cage looked good. It looked like it was the fastest I've ever seen the case. Those videos and pictures are uploaded to the drive. You need to go look at them.

SPEAKER_03 33:19

Okay. Yeah. I work working everything. I haven't been able to touch anything, but I will.

SPEAKER_05 33:26

Uh but yeah, there's a post on the worker shoot page uh with with the pictures and stuff from the event that we had we had a great time. I don't have the videos, but I got some videos of the packed house. The the fact that it was packed and everybody's chants were everyone. I see the packed house. Yeah, usually it's just us starting the chance, but it was everybody was starting the chance, man. There was like all over the arena was starting the chance, different chants, like everybody flipping everybody off, like scraping. And I really didn't feel like many people were not involved. Did you? Like I felt like everybody was involved, like, and and oh god, yeah. There weren't like a ton of people outside. We want to give a shout out to Nick Blackwell's grandma.

SPEAKER_00 34:11

I was about to say the same thing.

SPEAKER_05 34:13

Um, she was she talked to us the whole time, basically. She's she's great.

SPEAKER_00 34:18

Yeah, she's awesome.

SPEAKER_05 34:20

She sat in front of us. She said um she she she liked absolutely as long as Nick is good. She said, as long as Nick is good, I'm good. And if he's bad, I'm bad.

SPEAKER_03 34:31

So Yeah, there you go. That's a that's a mamma for you. Now I did I did see the video. I did see the video you uh D you were standing up painting around and chilling the crowd. And I love that video because like everyone is watching the wrestling in the video, and then you can see Clay playing his day, catching you, filming, and he just goes, I didn't even notice. I didn't even notice it. That's funny. Yeah, it's great. It's like it's so perfect. And hey, shout out Clay, because he was rocking that Cody Rhodes QB1 jacket that is so sick, man. I love that jacket. It looks so good on you, dude.

Hair vs Career And Venue Move Rumors

SPEAKER_05 35:16

Hey, do you know Nick Blackwell has the American Nightmare logo on his arm? I did not?

SPEAKER_03 35:21

Yes.

SPEAKER_05 35:22

Yep, yeah. He said he's about to get it removed. Yeah, he's gonna get it covered up, I think. I'd say. Why? I get it.

SPEAKER_00 35:31

I just told him at least he didn't put it on his neck.

SPEAKER_03 35:34

Yeah, yeah. Kind of said that that promotion. Yeah, I guess you don't want to be like Damien Priest. Damien Priest gets called up and he's like, oh crap, I got an Undertaker tattoo.

SPEAKER_02 35:45

Oops.

SPEAKER_05 35:47

Uh does Travis Lee has one too. Yeah. Big Scary.

SPEAKER_00 35:52

He does. He does. He's got a couple sick ass tattoos.

SPEAKER_05 35:55

Yeah, he's got some sick tattoos. Yeah, Clay got a new Big Scary shirt that he can't find currently, but it's glow in the dark. Mastodon shirt. I mean, we came home and was out of it, so we we don't know where we're replacing. We got home. We were so tired when we got home, dude. No, it was like we high-five left. We were we were also uh Waffle House drunk because tradition is for us to just go Waffle House after. Go Waffle House. Yeah. Seen a couple wrestles there. Yeah. Uh shout out to BB. He was awesome. It was his debut. He graduated last night. Got to do five minutes to graduate.

SPEAKER_00 36:31

And a solid match, too.

SPEAKER_05 36:33

Great match. He's over, bro.

SPEAKER_00 36:36

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 36:36

Yeah, everybody knew who he was. So he like he's evidently he's really good at school, like people watching him and stuff. Like he's uh, but he was really over. He was really good, awesome energy. He worked the crowd really good. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 36:52

And I just want to say he had very good, solid choices on the jukebox at Waffle House.

SPEAKER_05 36:58

Oh, yeah, great choices on jukebox, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 37:01

He got on the jukebox and uh Tennessee whiskey comes on, so I'm like, alright.

SPEAKER_01 37:05

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 37:05

And then best day ever, SpongeBob comes on. I'm like, okay. Yeah. And then the Eagles come on one of these nights, and dude, I'm up.

SPEAKER_01 37:13

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 37:14

God, I'm I'm like I'm like a 65-year-old in a 20 years.

SPEAKER_05 37:17

He would know immediately, buddies. He played SpongeBob and he played Spongebob too whiskey. And the Eagles.

SPEAKER_00 37:25

And the Eagles. I mean, you literally struck all like everything in me.

SPEAKER_03 37:32

Okay. Well, we know one person knows not going to try to fight.

SPEAKER_00 37:35

No, no, Habibi. I got I got Habibis back, honestly. He he won me over just with the music.

SPEAKER_05 37:41

Hey, you've uh so the so you know you got some you got some crap with Sean. Still, you and Sean still going back and forth on socials. Sean Cruz, shout out, shout out Sean the Champ. The champ. Champ is here. You need to put some respect in his name, Noah.

Crazo’s Popularity And Awards

SPEAKER_00 38:01

You have to do it. Do it. Do it. The man's good at what he does. Alright. Oh. I won't, I won't, I won't, I won't knock him for for his. You won't?

SPEAKER_05 38:15

You do it.

SPEAKER_00 38:17

He's good at what he does. I won't say that he's trash. Like his work is trash.

SPEAKER_03 38:24

But there it is.

SPEAKER_00 38:28

Sean as a person is pure garbage. I didn't know they his wife's his wife's an angel. Honestly, she needs she she needs to run. She will whoop your ass. She no. I think she's I I think she's too good for Sean.

SPEAKER_04 38:53

Oh well.

SPEAKER_00 38:56

She's the whole reason that man looks good. Alright.

SPEAKER_02 39:00

Listen, do you realize it's just gonna be me and you at the show? We're not gonna have D play there.

SPEAKER_00 39:09

It's gonna be me and you. That's alright.

SPEAKER_03 39:13

He's gonna look me up like Randy Sterry and use me as a baseball bat. I know that's what's gonna happen. He's gonna swing me around to hit Sean Cruise with and Well then I'll just throw the football in it and just take him out with the damn spear.

SPEAKER_00 39:27

I mean, I I got your back.

SPEAKER_05 39:29

It's good. I'm excited for that.

SPEAKER_00 39:33

I ain't scared. I'll tell you that.

SPEAKER_05 39:35

That KCW show, Kentucky Championship Radley Virgin Kentucky is in April, April 4th, right? April 4th, April 4th. Unfortunately, me and Claybo will be at a wedding.

SPEAKER_00 39:46

So is that okay? I was w I was wondering why I wasn't gonna make it.

SPEAKER_03 39:51

Yeah, your sister didn't message me back when I messaged her. To be fair, not make it. I commented on her um her picture, like where she posted the calendar. Did you think that I commented on it? Uh-uh. Funny. So she she she made a post about that calendar. It was like the date on. She's like, wedding's coming soon or something. And I wrote under, I was like, oh my god, your mom's getting married for a third time. Whoa.

SPEAKER_05 40:19

Crude.

SPEAKER_03 40:21

Damn. It's funny though. You got listen, you haven't been around a sister enough. Like we had to grow up with her and like putting up with us, and then once like she grew up, then now we have to put up with her. Like she's all about the insults, but she's mainer, she's mainly.

SPEAKER_05 40:42

She's mainer than me. Yeah, she'll cook you.

SPEAKER_03 40:45

Yeah, she'll cook you and business. She cooks, she cooks us every time she's in, dude. Yeah. She lived the right. This is our punishment. It's the trauma. It's the trauma.

SPEAKER_05 40:58

It's the trauma. That's why Wes is good at it.

SPEAKER_02 41:00

Shout out, Maddie. We love you.

SPEAKER_05 41:06

Okay. Uh she doesn't listen to this. She doesn't say whatever right here, and she's not gonna hear anything. Doesn't matter.

SPEAKER_03 41:15

Unless we clip this and then tag her in it.

SPEAKER_05 41:17

Now that we could do. That we might do.

SPEAKER_01 41:21

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 41:23

Nick Octopus. Andy. Octopus. Oh, Andy Octopus, yeah. That's that's optimal. Yeah, optimal. No octopus. I've got he always impresses me, actually. How he can do it. He really does. He really does. He's really good. Yeah, he's really good. His finisher, that the way he does that Lariat, that like the the shoulders off the ropes, Lariat. That's so dangerous. If the ropes are a little bit weak, you're just gonna go flying through them. That's what I was thinking. Oh, yeah. That second case of the game. He was just went wow out the reach. I just gotta say, he does not break K Fape.

SPEAKER_00 42:06

He does not.

SPEAKER_05 42:06

He settles all down.

SPEAKER_00 42:09

I mean, dude, even like even after the show, like Dan was saying something to him, and he was just like stone cold face, just like gave him just like a short, just like okay response or something like that, and then just walked away.

SPEAKER_05 42:22

Which I respect, by the way. Oh yeah, you know. In this day and time, so I've been listening to Dark Side of the Ring Unheard, which is like uh I gotta watch that by the way. Well, you need to watch Dark Side of the Ring, but this is the podcast, uh the audio podcast, where it's it's just Clay's listening to a little bit of it in the car with me, where it's just them in like some of the interviews that didn't get aired and stuff, and just talking about never breaking kayfabe. And today I was listening to the Nikita Volkoff Volkoff episode.

SPEAKER_00 42:52

And Nikita Koloff.

Merch, Tattoos, And Post-Show Waffle House

SPEAKER_05 42:53

Nikita Kolov episode. I get it confused. Yeah, the Nikita Koloff episode. Um where it's talking about he's he's a dude from like Minnesota. Minnesota. Like Steve Simpson is his name or something. And and he when he got when he when they he got a job wrestling, they told him you'd be a Russian. And like so you gotta be a Russian and you gotta you know shave your head. And he played a Russian everywhere. The only time he wasn't Russian was at home with his with his wife and kids, and he was with them until he got married. He was Russian. So like he pretended to be Russian all the time. Nobody does that.

SPEAKER_00 43:40

Oh wow. I didn't I didn't even know that.

SPEAKER_05 43:41

I didn't know it either. He legally changed his name. Wow.

SPEAKER_00 43:47

That is right.

SPEAKER_05 43:47

Yeah, and Ultimate Warrior is the only other one I know that done that.

SPEAKER_03 43:52

He legally changed it to Ultimate Warrior?

SPEAKER_05 43:55

He his name was Ultimate Warrior on his birth on his like on his social security card.

SPEAKER_03 44:01

I don't know that either. I didn't know that.

SPEAKER_05 44:04

Yeah, that's that's committed. And and Nikita's was too. Nikita, Nikita doing that, like he he literally did that, sold it all the way down all the time.

SPEAKER_00 44:15

Oh yeah. And it's just wild to think he's like a preacher nowadays.

SPEAKER_05 44:19

I know. He's a preacher. That's it. Yes. Which is which is cool. But because he's he speaks with a Minnesota accent. Like it's very funny.

SPEAKER_00 44:28

Hell. We're like on fire with the shout-outs tonight. Speaking of Kolovs, what about uh Ivan's Ivan's granddaughter that follows us?

SPEAKER_05 44:36

Yeah, Ivan's granddaughters. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 44:38

Shout out to her.

SPEAKER_05 44:39

She's comment on a few things too. Yeah. Hey, um Indie Show. A little bit more indie show talk. And we'll get to a little bit of WWE talk here. Uh we have shows coming up in Chattanooga we're gonna try to go to.

SPEAKER_00 45:01

Uh that are good Good For You is the name of the show.

SPEAKER_05 45:06

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 45:07

Uh and there's some other ones.

SPEAKER_05 45:12

Uh there's some other shows in March, I think. There's a couple shows we're gonna go to.

SPEAKER_00 45:16

We got the Smoky Mountain Cup coming up.

SPEAKER_05 45:19

Yeah, that's right. Smoky Mountain Cup.

SPEAKER_00 45:21

And that's all weekend.

SPEAKER_05 45:23

Yeah, right. That's all weekend, yeah. Oh god. That's exciting. Man, yeah. Yeah. Wrestling is awesome, just so everybody knows. Uh so let's ask this. Who's in the box?

SPEAKER_03 45:44

Got the googer.

SPEAKER_00 45:48

Jeremy. Actually, no, no, no, no, no. I tell you what what I said yesterday.

SPEAKER_03 45:54

Okay, lay it on.

SPEAKER_00 45:56

Danhausen.

SPEAKER_03 45:58

That tracks. Danhausen would rock.

SPEAKER_05 46:03

I really, really, really want it to be Demon Finn. But I have no clue.

SPEAKER_00 46:12

I've not thought that. I mean, that that would go hard.

SPEAKER_05 46:14

You think it'd be anticlimactic though, Demon Finn?

SPEAKER_03 46:19

I would I would love for it to be Demon Finn, but the way he talked on the Cody Rhodes show, the podcast, about how he was not okay really about how they handled Demon Finn when he came to the main roster. Instead of it being like the war paint, it was a different personality. Like an alter ego or I feel like that's the only reason why I wouldn't think it would be Demon is just because he does it like he he basically was stating he didn't want it to be an alternate personality. That's supposed to be his his heritage war paint. Yeah. But that's the only that that's that's just my opinion.

SPEAKER_05 47:05

That's no, and that makes sense.

SPEAKER_03 47:08

My thoughts about it. And I didn't know that until he said that. Um yeah, no one did. And I feel like that's why they they wouldn't do it again because he kind of put it he he put it out there on a WWE sanctioned show. Well, is he gonna tell you what I really think it is?

SPEAKER_05 47:26

Like, really, what I actually think it is. And you're both, when I tell you guys this, you're all gonna be like, oh shit, that's actually what it is. What comes out in the first week of March?

SPEAKER_03 47:41

The game?

SPEAKER_05 47:42

The game.

SPEAKER_03 47:43

2K26.

SPEAKER_05 47:45

It's just an ad for the game, bro.

Ongoing Social Feuds And Banter

SPEAKER_03 47:49

Oh my god, if that's the case, dude, it's gonna piss off so many people. Don't it track, though? Don't it track? It does. It really does. And look, you just suck the life out of the room. I know, dude. I know. I told you it was gonna ruin it for you. You know that's what it is. Like, like the crowd, there the crowd will die. Like, and I'm not saying like be happy. There it'll be a dead crowd when that happens. I know.

SPEAKER_05 48:13

That's what I think's gonna happen. I think it's just gonna be, I think it's gonna be an ad for the game. I think it's gonna be like somebody comes out of it that's you know in the game or something. I don't know what it is.

SPEAKER_03 48:23

It's just it's just punk.

SPEAKER_05 48:25

It's just punk. That's what they said. That's people were saying online. They were like, it could just be punk.

SPEAKER_03 48:31

This is like why it could be I don't know. Maybe it's the rock painted gold. Maybe it's Jake Paul.

SPEAKER_00 48:41

Maybe it's just the mat maybe it's just the masked man, and he just goes and curb stomps another vision.

SPEAKER_05 48:45

He just curbstomps her and reopens the box.

SPEAKER_00 48:48

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 48:49

Everybody can tell it's Grayson Wallow now. I don't think Elimination Chamber is fully filled yet. It's not. There's two left. But I know Javon has a trick. Cody Rhodes trick. Um Randy, LA Knight, and there's still one more to be filled. Okay. Yeah, that that that checks out. Um if it's Cody Rhodes, I'll Cody Rhodes is you think if it's it's he isn't it if he wins. If he wins it. Um, I don't yeah. I think he'll get screwed. I think Judd will screw it. That's the prediction.

SPEAKER_03 49:27

That's the prediction right now is Cody Rhodes is gonna win it to get the mania somehow.

SPEAKER_05 49:32

I think Jr.'ll screw him. I don't see him letting him win it.

SPEAKER_03 49:38

I mean, I I would I love Cody. You know I'm a big fan of Cody, one of the biggest fans of Cody. Um, but uh I think really like he he's main evented it twice, three times, whatever. Like you it it's it's back to being repetitive with WWE. Yeah. You know, like I get it, but at the same time, you gotta change it up a little bit. It'd be nice. Like, if they're gonna do long storylines, let it be a little bit longer. Like Cody's Cody's went, lost the title, or Cody didn't get the title, didn't get the title, won the title, lost the title. It's all been a main event of mania. Hey, draw it out, yeah.

KCW Plans And Schedule Clashes

SPEAKER_00 50:28

We yeah, we need to we need Cody to fully lose his shit before he gets the title back. Yeah, that's what I think we need.

SPEAKER_03 50:35

Rock bottom, Cody.

SPEAKER_00 50:37

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 50:38

And then we also have wait, Finn Balor. Okay. You think the other person's just Brock Lesnar?

SPEAKER_03 50:47

Yeah. I heard uh I heard a rumor. I heard a rumor that that Brock. Um maybe it's the dude in the ball. Maybe Brock and the ball. They said Brock is gonna interrupt chamber, and before someone comes out, he's gonna cause a commotion and then take their place. Javon? Kill Javon Evans. Yeah, something like that. That's what that's what the rumor is. He's gonna hurt somebody.

SPEAKER_05 51:25

He's gonna jump from one of the chambers to the other one or something crazy.

SPEAKER_03 51:30

He's gonna take someone out before they get to the chamber that night, and then he's gonna take their place. Just like he stole, you know, Money in the Bank from Riddle.

SPEAKER_00 51:38

No. Well, see you it's you keep mentioning all this. It's funny you mention Brock, the chamber, and Riddle just because I saw a video earlier of Riddle on some podcast talking about I don't know what year it was, but it was the chamber that it had Riddle, Bobby Lashley, Styles, Brock. I'm probably missing two more people. But uh they said like Lashley like got concussed when someone got thrown through his pod while he was in it. And so they said, and this is coming from Riddle, so who knows the the trueness of it, but uh said that when Brock came out like earlier than he was supposed to, and then just like went started doing what he wanted and like said it that it cut out tons of spots that everyone was wanting to do, and that AJ Styles and a bunch of other people were pissed.

SPEAKER_03 52:35

Oh, I guarantee it.

SPEAKER_02 52:37

Oh gosh, oh gosh, interruption, interruption, what's going on? My God, he killed him! He killed him, my god, damn it. He wasn't paying attention. He wasn't paying attention to us?

Kayfabe Dedication Old And New

SPEAKER_03 52:54

No, let that be a lesson. Anytime you're not paying attention, you're getting a slobber knocker.

SPEAKER_00 53:03

You stay on your toes.

SPEAKER_05 53:04

Come in and get you a goother, get you a goother slap and get back out. Those were gross. Um, shout out all the indie wrestlers this weekend. It was awesome watching everybody. I know God, yeah. Love all the workers all the time. It's so much fun. And one more thing. Do it. Who's the masked man? I know we all have different picks now. I still say it's Grayson Waller.

SPEAKER_03 53:30

I think it's Grayson.

SPEAKER_00 53:31

I I I feel like at this point it's Grayson.

SPEAKER_03 53:34

Oh, wait, well, wait. AEW talk for a second. Yeah, we're gonna do that. I sent this to Heavy D. Sent this to Heavy D. New feud building between MJF and Hangman.

SPEAKER_04 53:46

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 53:48

He even called out Hangman. I sent him the promo. Uh they were both in the ring, and he was like, listen, you're just not that guy. They gave you gave it to you twice, and look what look where you're at. You're not that guy.

SPEAKER_05 54:01

Puttled the ball both times.

SPEAKER_03 54:02

And I was like, I was like, did Dusty write this?

SPEAKER_05 54:07

Listen, bro. MJF is the best heel in professional wrestling.

SPEAKER_02 54:13

I'm not saying he's not.

SPEAKER_05 54:15

He's amazing. It's him and Gunther for me. Like him and Gunther is like, like, I I wish MJF and Gunther, either Gunther was in AEW or MJF was in WWE, so him and Gunther could have a feud with MJF being the baby. I just think that would work. Did you watch his match against Zilla? Yeah, he's my Zilla was wild.

SPEAKER_03 54:37

Was it? Yeah, dude. It was good.

SPEAKER_05 54:40

There's heat on Zilla, though, like real heat. Like why they talk about why Zilla's not in WWE yet, like he's been on the roster and just not there yet. It's because he's got attitude problems and like control problems.

SPEAKER_00 54:52

Like he won't like that's always been a problem with it.

SPEAKER_03 54:57

How about he doesn't get on live every uh pay-per-view that WWE comes out with? He gets on his live on TikTok and goes live, streams the whole thing, talking shit about everybody. I'm not talking about like cutting promos on people, like he's got an attitude talking shit about WWE while they're doing a pay-per-view that night.

SPEAKER_05 55:19

It's crazy.

SPEAKER_03 55:20

Like my kids, my kid pulls it up every pay-per-view. He's like, hey, Zill's live, look. And Zill is like on his camera, on his phone, just talking mad shit about everything. It's crazy.

Upcoming Indie Dates And Cups

SPEAKER_05 55:33

And I was like, he's contracting. Yeah. Doesn't make any sense. AEW also swerve uh is is hill-ish now. Turned on Omega, kind of done a bunch of stuff to Omega.

SPEAKER_03 55:46

Yeah, Swerve, that that was building up because basically Swerve was trying to help, and Omega kept giving him attitude. And so finally just was like, you know what? Fine. Yeah. If you're gonna give me attitude, then they said it's a full he'll turn.

SPEAKER_05 56:02

Like it's a heel turn, but like Swerve's always gonna be over anyway, so it doesn't matter.

SPEAKER_03 56:07

Yeah, it's it's more or less Swerve sticking up for himself and having enough of Kenny being Kenny.

SPEAKER_00 56:12

Yeah, basically Kenny had it coming.

SPEAKER_03 56:14

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 56:15

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 56:15

Because Swerve last time Swerve came out to help him and Kenny got mad and like cussed him out for it, even though like Swerve saved his ass.

SPEAKER_05 56:24

You know, we're getting near the they're they're both good right now. WWE's not WWE's actually arguably the worst promo worst of the two promotions right now. Like what the work the what they're doing. They're on downslope. Just what they're doing is like I don't necessarily I don't necessarily want to watch it like I did. Like me and Clay would not have missed a SmackDown six months ago. Would we clay that? Like, no, we would not have missed one, bro. We would have like we'd have busted our ass to get back and watch it. Now we're like, you want SmackDown? He's like, not really, I'm just tired.

SPEAKER_03 57:00

We'll just catch the highlights tomorrow.

SPEAKER_05 57:02

Yeah, we'll just catch the highlights. Yeah, that's that's what we say. Which is which sucks because I like watching the whole show, but SmackDown's so diluted with commercials, it's hard to watch. And Raw's product is just not top tier.

SPEAKER_03 57:16

And then, I mean, on top of that, take up prices are insane for anything.

SPEAKER_05 57:22

Well, you guys are going this week, right?

SPEAKER_03 57:25

Yeah, we are going to be there this Friday in Louisville at the Yum Center.

SPEAKER_05 57:29

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 57:30

Um SmackDown. Floor seats. Sweet. Oh yeah, we'll be uh we'll be uh behind um announcing the announcers table. Uh dude. Not front row, because not front row because you know I don't have 25 grand. Yeah. Um but uh yeah. I I ain't figured out that map yet. Um but uh we're in we're in row E on the floor. Kill it. So so five fifth row back.

WWE Box Speculation And Game Theory

SPEAKER_05 58:07

Well we'll be actually in the the actual, you know, it depends on where we're at Friday night, but I'd like for the rest of the worker shoot crew to have a watch party and see if we can find you guys and watch watching.

SPEAKER_03 58:19

We need to make a worker shoot, you know, sign. I know.

SPEAKER_05 58:23

We just try to get the shirts made this week and you guys could wear those, but you guys can wear WWE.

SPEAKER_03 58:27

Put a code put code uh put code on my shoulders and he can hold up the worker shoot sign.

SPEAKER_05 58:32

Hey, we need a we need to make a big yeah, we could print a big QR code. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 58:40

Yeah, Clay, yeah. Big QR code and hold it up. We're uh we're gonna we're going down early and checking into the the hotel early. So like we're we plan to get there right when the doors open to try to beat everybody in so we can like get to the the merch table and everything first. Uh because I like you know, you we all were at that SmackDown last time in Lexon, like getting merch is crazy. I miss two matches. It's hard, dude. You miss matches. You missed uh you missed the debut of um Hikoleo. Yeah. Which now is Tall Tonga.

SPEAKER_04 59:18

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 59:18

But literally, I was I was walking up the steps to go get in to the merch line, and as I got as I was walking through the curtain at the top, his music hits, and I just turn around and I see his name and he walks out, and I was like, damn. And I went on and got in line.

SPEAKER_05 59:31

Yeah, and it was like they were running out of merch, so we had to be in line getting it. Yeah, they ran out.

SPEAKER_00 59:36

Yeah. Um and and to add to it, I ended up jump getting out of line and just sending money to Dusty because he was way ahead of me.

SPEAKER_03 59:43

Yeah. So we're gonna try to get there as early as possible so we can hit that merch line first, get some get some autographs, because like when we were at the Lexington show, uh, by the time we got through the merch line, only thing that was left the Cena was like some signed Cena merch, like the the poster, and um a Cena hat was all that was left. They had no Cena shirts, they had no Cody shirts, nothing for for that venue.

SPEAKER_05 1:00:11

While we're on this, shout out our shout out our boy Jake. We met down there. We didn't forget about him. We didn't forget about you, Jake. He's somewhere working the line at McDonald's. Yeah, I'm sure he's by now.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:28

Hopefully, if we catch any um any wrestlers at the hotel, I'll be FaceTiming you guys.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:36

So y'all can be like, hey, hey, do you do you do you got some stickers on you? Oh yeah, I got a whole contract.

SPEAKER_05 1:00:44

Uh don't don't nerd out when you see one.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:48

No, I already have a plan. You give the stickers to Colt. Yes. You give the stickers to Colt. Every wrestler that sees Colt takes a sticker. Hey, if you stick to the stick, it doesn't matter who they are. Yeah, I know. I know.

SPEAKER_05 1:01:04

Be a nice guy, you sure is an asshole.

Chamber, Brock Rumors, And Booking

SPEAKER_03 1:01:08

I get it. Well, I mean, I get it sometimes. I don't. I don't think you'll be an asshole to cold.

SPEAKER_05 1:01:15

I don't because I would be the guy that like spent my entire day signing autographs for everybody. Yeah. Um yeah. But I know that there's some big things coming up. Worker shoot has some big guests coming up. Uh-huh. Got some wrestling.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:34

Can't talk about them right now. Huh? So we can't tell you who they are right now.

SPEAKER_05 1:01:39

Yeah, we're not gonna tell you who they are. We got we got people booked, we got some places booked, and we're recording live at some shows. Uh, you know, we're gonna have some wrestlers on in studio, we're gonna have some wrestlers on too. So uh we've not done it, we've not had a recorded episode in studio yet, I don't think. We've all been that events. Or it's been snowed again, and we've been like this, because it's snowed again.

SPEAKER_03 1:02:03

Because it snowed again.

SPEAKER_05 1:02:05

Here we are. Wes won't be able to get us taller again for two years. No school. Yeah, Clay has no school.

SPEAKER_03 1:02:10

No school. Yeah, it's insane, actually. Every time, and then and then every time we have to go to uh when we get to go in the summer, Clay be like, I got school.

unknown 1:02:20

Okay.

SPEAKER_05 1:02:22

Let me tell you, I want to do that's real. You know, I like to I like to cover a little bit of throwback stuff. So this is from that podcast. Again, podcast I've been listening to. And it's New Jack. It was interviews with New Jack. You know, New Jack's one of my favorites. I know it's one of those favorites.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:39

We all love New Jack. That is such a great episode, too.

SPEAKER_05 1:02:41

Clay, I'm gonna come in there again. Um sorry. So it's his interview. Once you said throwback, he was done. So it's a small but listen, Clay, this is relevant to this too, because it involves Ricky Morton. Okay, so Ricky Morton and and and uh Robert Gibson, the Rock and Roll Express were in a feud with uh gangsters.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:06

Right. In Smoky Mountain.

SPEAKER_05 1:03:07

In Smokey Mountain. They were in a feud with the gangsters. And if you don't know, Clay, do you know who the gangsters are? Is New Jack and his I know it's No Jack and somebody. Yeah, New Jack and his and and um and his Mustafa was his name, wasn't it? That's his name, Mustafa. Yeah, right, and their whole gimmick. Yeah, not Mustafa Ali, Mustafa. The whole gimmick was anti-white. Like their whole gimmick was like to let people be racist.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:33

They were gangsters.

AEW Heels, Swerve, And Momentum

SPEAKER_05 1:03:34

Yeah. So they legitimately, everything was there, and they worked in Alabama, Georgia, Florida, smoking, you know, Kentucky, Virginia, Tennessee, North Carolina. They were hated. And Rockin' All Express is the ultimate loved group carrying uh, you know, Ricky Morton. Yeah, and Ricky Morton and Robert Hensley. So um funny story, New Jack and Ricky, you know, were were talking, and uh Ricky sells the crap out of eight by tens out of photos. And uh New Jack couldn't sell any photos because nobody wants to buy them, you know, because the Hills merch table, if you're actually heated, it's like, you know, who do you think sells the Sean Cruise sunshirs? Uh Ricky said, let me take your pictures, I'll sell them all for you. And New Jack was like, Are you sure? Are you sure? I don't think you're gonna be able to do that. I don't think you'll be able to sell them. He took every picture, marked out New Jack's face, and signed them all. Signed them all, Ricky Morton, Rock and Roll Express. Sold every one of them because everybody wanted to hold up the signs with with New Jack's face marked out.

SPEAKER_00 1:04:46

That's smart.

SPEAKER_05 1:04:47

And gave and gave New Jack all the money. I was like, that's awesome. And and that story's relevant to us because of Ricky, right? That story's relevant to us because everything that we're we watch has some touch of Ricky Morton. And I know we're shouting out Ricky again, I don't I don't want to glaze it too hard here, but uh in this area, if you wrestle in this area or you're involved with wrestling like we are, because we're fully engulfed, like we live it. You know, I mean we're not wrestlers, uh, but it you know, we're we're trying to be on the road and watch wrestling. So if you're in if you're engulfed in it like us, or you're or you're or you're a worker, or you are attached to a promotion, you're touched by Ricky Morton at some point in your life, like at some point, seven degrees or something, you know, because the school, the innovate, like is uh like a step down from I think from Ricky had the school when Ricky had a school there in Kingsport.

SPEAKER_00 1:05:49

It's like it's it's it's like the it's like the successor of School of Morton.

WWE Live Plans, Merch Lines, And Seats

SPEAKER_05 1:05:52

It is, and Ricky trained Ricky trains, he does seminars there and trains there a few times a week. It's like School of Morton a few times a week. And then, you know, KCW with Ricky Morton there, and now the extension of Carrie, and Carrie's, you know, NWA and Ricky's in, you know, Ricky's NWA too, but Carrie wrestles that work Ricky does. And all around, everywhere. All these people were trained by or mentored by, you know, or have a moment in their life where Ricky Morton meant something to them. And it's crazy.

SPEAKER_04 1:06:26

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:06:26

I don't think we talk about, I don't think they people talk about it enough about how all the wrestling in this area is like pe pyramids up to Ricky Morton. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:06:38

Ricky. JBO calls him a wrestling god, but honestly, Ricky is a wrestling god here in the South.

SPEAKER_05 1:06:46

Yeah, dude. Yeah, he's he's he's he's a wrestling god here. And but he would not let you call him that. Because he's humble too. No. I know he's had his problems in the past and everything, but you know, I've never seen him do I've never seen him do anybody wrong, never seen him do a fan wrong. Uh I he would sign everything.

SPEAKER_00 1:07:04

Stand-up guy.

SPEAKER_05 1:07:04

Like I said, he's one of those guys that he would miss his flight to sign sign autographs.

SPEAKER_00 1:07:10

Oh yeah. Yeah, no doubt.

SPEAKER_03 1:07:12

Absolutely. I mean, you gotta think too, like, like you said, everyone loves Ricky. Everything, he's a wrestling god around here. Yes. What a lot of people, everyone remembers and loves him. And if you think about it, we had another big name that came to Neon, Kentucky, and he doesn't get talked about as much as Ricky does. Do you remember who that was?

SPEAKER_04 1:07:42

Macho Man.

SPEAKER_03 1:07:45

American Dream, baby. Oh, yeah. Son of a pumpkin.

SPEAKER_00 1:07:49

What death hell, dude. There's been God, all the greats were in were in Neon back in the day.

SPEAKER_03 1:07:54

But I just meant, you know, like the one that sticks, the one that truly remembers where he came from, tried to help out everyone, was Ricky.

SPEAKER_00 1:08:04

Yeah, yeah. Yeah, you're right.

SPEAKER_05 1:08:06

And for all intents and fairness, I know his boy's just like him. Like he's he's he's about he's about the fans all day long.

SPEAKER_00 1:08:12

Oh god, yeah. Carrie's just as great as a guy.

SPEAKER_05 1:08:14

He's grateful for every bit of it. Also, his heel work rocks if you've seen his heel work.

SPEAKER_03 1:08:19

Yes. So good, man. So good.

SPEAKER_05 1:08:23

I think Wes is gonna be a great heel. I think Wes Barker's gonna be, I mean, yeah. Yeah, that's his name. He's gonna be a great heel. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:08:29

Wes Marker. Yeah, the other Wes.

SPEAKER_05 1:08:31

Yeah, the other Wes. I think he'll be a great heel. Me and Clay said that when he turned. I was like, he's gonna be great. That him and Marty, because Marty's golden boy, golden boy.

SPEAKER_00 1:08:41

Well, I mean, you gotta think this too. What like, have you ever seen a mean Canadian?

SPEAKER_05 1:08:47

Right. What's that all about?

SPEAKER_00 1:08:49

Like, like that, that's that's that's all he needs. Well just being a mean Canadian.

SPEAKER_03 1:08:57

Um Kevin, Kevin Owens.

Signs, QR Codes, And Hotel Hopes

SPEAKER_00 1:09:00

That's true. Kevin. Kevin's kind of different. He's just he's out there anyways.

SPEAKER_05 1:09:08

Hey, also, yeah, let me let me tell you uh this will be my last take. Um one of my one of my last markouts here. Let me tell you who I want to be. Okay, let's do this. Let's do this. Last last couple minutes here, let's do this. Okay. Fantasy booking. Okay. Well, uh hi, my name is Mark. Who do you want it to be in the box? Wes, who do you want it to be?

SPEAKER_03 1:09:37

I want it to be truly, truly, I want it to be Dan Housen. That'd be fun. Honestly, just because like he doesn't Dan Housen doesn't have to wrestle to get over it. He just can come out and be his old weird self and be like, ha ha! Dan Housen, our truth feud.

SPEAKER_00 1:09:54

Yes.

SPEAKER_03 1:09:55

Yeah. What if it's just our truth in the box?

SPEAKER_05 1:09:58

Yeah, that's what I was about to say. What if it's just our truth and like Well, he ran that spot though where he walked up to the box though, and was like he was on SmackDown when he walked up to the box.

SPEAKER_00 1:10:08

But it's our truth though, too. Like he being our truth, he can wander his way into the box and like they have. True. Because, you know, box open and danhausen's like that, you know.

SPEAKER_05 1:10:22

He said it's a that's a major award. And I know that's a throwback to Christmas story, like the big box is a major award, but it also might be an Easter egg to tell who it actually is. Fantasy booking, Noah, who do you want it to be?

SPEAKER_00 1:10:41

I'd probably go, I'd I'll probably stick with Dan Housen too, just because they it'd be a debut. Someone jumping ship. Like I feel like it's probably one of the biggest pops that'll come from it.

SPEAKER_05 1:10:52

Yeah. Uh fancy booking is who you want it to be. I want it to be Damon Finn, but I remember he has a match later that or that same night. That same night.

unknown 1:11:08

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:11:09

What if it's just said? Right. It could easily just be said, and we wouldn't we wouldn't think a thing about it. Can I tell you who I want it to be?

SPEAKER_03 1:11:20

Yes.

Big Guests Teased And Live Recordings

SPEAKER_05 1:11:21

The man who couldn't get it done to get into Elimination Chamber. The man that couldn't get it done against Drew McIntyre to win the world the championship.

SPEAKER_03 1:11:33

Uh go ahead, do it. Do it, do it.

SPEAKER_05 1:11:36

The the one that the one that couldn't do it as himself. So he has to become somebody else.

SPEAKER_04 1:11:44

Come on.

SPEAKER_05 1:11:45

Shut up. El generico. El generico would rock, especially in this luchador world that we're in right now.

SPEAKER_00 1:11:56

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:12:08

Yes.

SPEAKER_00 1:12:11

Oh, I wish I had better. That's a great take.

SPEAKER_05 1:12:16

Yeah, El Generico would rock, dude.

SPEAKER_00 1:12:20

El generico and triple A against El Grande.

SPEAKER_05 1:12:24

I know. Against both El Grande's pretty threat.

SPEAKER_03 1:12:27

What uh Triple A talk.

SPEAKER_05 1:12:33

Um, so Vikingo what? Best promotion, triple A.

New Jack, Rock ’n’ Roll, And Ricky Morton

SPEAKER_03 1:12:40

Yep. Vikingo versus Dominic Mysterio. The terms are Vikingo said if he wins and gets the title, that Dominic Mysterio is not allowed back in AAA. That's gonna happen. Yeah, that'll happen. That's the only way I think it'd be a dumb move because Dominic is carrying that company. He doesn't even have to be there. He just cut a promo for the first episode on Fox when they did their debut episode on Fox. He just cut a promo. You weren't even there, of him driving in his escalade or Tahoe, whatever it was. And that's what everybody tuned in for because they knew that Dominic was dirty Don was cutting a promo. They love him. Like that's how over he is with that company. He him and El Grande. El Grande Americano. They were the tall one. They love those two. So for you to kick him out, it's gonna get, yeah, you're gonna get more heat on Vikingo, but at the same time, man, that might be like a nail in the coffin, bro.

SPEAKER_05 1:13:53

Yeah. But I think the thing is though, he's gonna be in WWE's plans more than Triple A's. Because he's gotta be, you gotta have him in WWE just rocking and rolling because he's gotta get good people.

SPEAKER_03 1:14:05

I mean, I I get that, but still, like, I think he, I think honestly, I think he likes Triple A better. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:14:14

What makes sense, I mean.

SPEAKER_03 1:14:17

I mean, that's that's where his daddy came from.

SPEAKER_00 1:14:20

I mean, that's that's essentially his bloodline.

SPEAKER_03 1:14:23

Yeah. Ugh, bloodline. But uh sorry about that. I just when you're good talking about it popped in my head. I remember that. I forgot to talk to you guys about that. But yeah, they they had a sit-down meal of the ring on the last uh last this past Saturday's triple A, and that was the terms.

SPEAKER_05 1:14:46

All right, so follow us for the follow us for the your indie news. Try to tell you, try to keep you up, keep you updated with the indie news, try to keep you updated with the indie events that are coming up. We try to we try to share between the between the four of us, uh five, six, seven, eight of us, how many really are about all the indie shows we get an email every month about the indie shows.

SPEAKER_03 1:15:09

I'm talking like we're Illuminati. We're not Illuminati, we're not Illuminati now, even though there are the you know, that's we're we're kind of Illuminati, but we're not.

SPEAKER_00 1:15:20

Um there's like 69 of them in there.

SPEAKER_05 1:15:23

Nice. But yeah, so just support indie wrestling. That's what we want to do. We love indie wrestling, and we're just giving transparent reviews on it. That's how I feel about the shows that we watch. Like uh I think the there's a lot of a lot of good and bad with every bit of it. And you know, we support all of it, and I want to see everybody get work and everybody everybody uh support indie wrestling, go to shows, buy the food, buy a shirt, have a good time, follow us, like, listen, comment, ask us questions, messages, call us, come on the show, talk about wrestling, buy some toys, sell some toys, buy some toys.

SPEAKER_03 1:16:08

Start you you f dup chant. Yeah, that's my favorite.

SPEAKER_00 1:16:13

That's my favorite part. Yeah, that's my favorite thing to do.

SPEAKER_05 1:16:15

It's not clays. Not clays. It would be. It would it would be if you weren't a man of God.

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SPEAKER_03 1:16:24

But if you're a part of the Illuminati, you're invited to come paint this dog.

SPEAKER_05 1:16:29

All right, tune in next time.

SPEAKER_03 1:16:30

If you know, you know. Nick Blackwell.

SPEAKER_00 1:16:32

With your dog.

SPEAKER_03 1:16:33

It's his dog. This listen, this dog will eat everybody except Dusty.

SPEAKER_05 1:16:38

Nick Nick Blackwell um from Innovate Wrestling, been at NWA, he's been at been been all over the place. I think he's working for AW this weekend. But Nick Blackwell's gonna be with us next week. Uh, really interesting. He's with Illuminati, he's the face of uh of Innumate Wrestling. Is he the face though? Face to Net Pro. He says he is of Net Pro Studios, yeah. Sorry, Clay. Good good call. Um yeah, but crazy champ, so okay. That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_03 1:17:12

All right, Wes. Wes, what you got? Man, I'm right there with you. Come come on the show with us, come talk to us, message us, call us, do what you want. You know, all we ask is you support indie wrestling. Give us a big super kick, follow us on everything. You can find us on TikTok, Instagram, Facebook, YouTube. You know, we just want to get everyone over as we get over. So let's get over together. That's all we all all we want. We're all there.

SPEAKER_05 1:17:48

We're there. Clay. Clay bug. You got anything? All right. I got nothing. No, you got anything, buddy?

SPEAKER_00 1:18:03

Rassing's good.

SPEAKER_05 1:18:04

Why know you got oh, never mind, sorry.

SPEAKER_02 1:18:11

You got anything, buddy?

SPEAKER_03 1:18:13

Yeah, he's gonna weigh no six eggs. Oh damn.

SPEAKER_04 1:18:22

Clayboy, ring the bell.

SPEAKER_05 1:18:29

Oh no.

SPEAKER_04 1:18:32

Oh no, oh God. Oh bring the bell.