Work Or Shoot?: A Wrestling Podcast

CLAYBO AND NOAH TAKEOVER: We Break Down KCW Uprising And Predict WrestleMania 42 WITHOUT WES AND D

Team T4 Episode 52

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Something feels off from the jump, and we lean into it: different lineup, different energy, and a lot to talk about after a weekend of wrestling. We start in the trenches with Kentucky Championship Wrestling Uprising, breaking down what worked, what felt different from the last big KCW card, and why smart pacing keeps a promotion hot without burning fans out. From Party vs Buzzsaw stealing the night to the ringside chaos that had everyone yelling, we dig into the moments you only catch when you’re actually there.

The main event talk gets spicy fast: Birdo vs Nick Hamrick, the stipulation that changes the next title shot, and the kind of interference that makes you believe again. Then we look ahead to KCW Shockwave on June 13 in Burgie, Kentucky and yes, we seriously pitch a jungle gym match with slides and a foam pit, because wrestling is supposed to be fun when it commits.

After that, we pivot to WWE WrestleMania 42 season with Pat McAfee’s return, Randy Orton and Cody Rhodes, and the “work or shoot” feeling around TKO and creative. We hit injuries and botches, debate celebrity involvement, and run through the Mania card with predictions, complaints, and a few bookings we’d love to see become real. If you’re a fan of KCW, indie wrestling, WWE storylines, and the blurred lines that make wrestling feel alive, this one is for you. Subscribe, share the episode with a wrestling friend, and leave a review with your WrestleMania winners.

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Cold Open And Missing Hosts

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Ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, children of all ages, the team that brought you Show and Color Podcast and T4 Productions proudly brings to you the greatest wrestling podcast in the world. Noah.

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What?

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Clevo, yeah, Wes. Heavy D. Oh.

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Where are they?

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The Work Or Shoot Podcast. And if you don't like that, we got two words for ya. Welcome back. Um, different episode today.

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Yeah, something's probably very obviously very different.

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Wes is not in studio because who knows? And uh Heavy D um is just depressed because he couldn't go to a KCW show.

KCW Uprising Show Overview

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Yeah, he's got the Sunday blues or something like that.

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Yeah. Um, it's he's rough. Um so talking about KCW, Noah, we somehow wore the same shirt.

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Yeah, unplanned.

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Uh went to KCW this Saturday or last Saturday, I guess.

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Uh well, two days when you're watching this, it'll be two days or longer ago.

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Today is Monday, April 6th. So April 4th, he went to KCW.

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Me and uh me Wes and the Little Weses and uh shout out Chase and Tanner, they came as well. It's actually Chase's first KCW show. Yeah, it was um solid show, honestly. Uh per always, KCW is always the best.

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They always put on a show.

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Um I will say uh was a little different than the than the previous shows, which kind of had me thinking maybe uh that that sh I would assume that show will be an annual show, you know. Yeah. But it wasn't it was it was full of of action and everything, but not like the last show or some of the previous shows. So it kind of makes I'm kind of feeling like that might be more or less like a filler show throughout the year. Which Wes made a good point though, too, that he likes that just so you know fans don't get burnt out on on the excitement and and the like surprises, which I will say, Jonathan, Bobo, and all them guys, they they know what they're doing with the surprises though. Yeah, they do. They they pay attention and they know when you think you know, you don't. Because I'm I I'm the same one.

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That's that's how wrestling is. Speaking of Bobo, prayers goes up to you, man.

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Yes. Hope you're hope you're wrestling up and feeling much better by now.

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But I did see something weird that Sean Cruz is wrestling at re Adam Knowsom.

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Yes. Um So he came out, which he pre before prior to the show, he made you know he posted a promo talking about he had a surprise. So uh Birto opened the show, and uh Bobby Watson was interviewing him, and of course Sean had to come in, you know, in interrupt. Yeah, put his I even gonna get started on that yet, but uh he came out, you know, talking about uh he said he had a surprise in that promo. And so he came out with saying that he wasn't defending or Bertho wasn't getting a title shot uh that night and that uh he had a s that his surprise was coming up, and so it ended up being uh Nick Hamrick.

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Oh yeah.

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Have you have you seen him before? Yeah. I've watched him quite a few times. He's a he's a good talent. Uh never seen a bad match from him. Um but the deal was from Sean was Birto versus Nick in the main event. Birdo wins, he would get a title shot at the next show, his stipulation of choice.

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Oh wow.

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Yeah.

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So I hope Birto beats him.

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Oh, he did. I might as well just spoil it already, but yeah, he did. He beat him?

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Yeah. Dude, what? Yeah.

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Oh my gosh.

Party Vs Buzzsaw Standout Spots

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I don't want to get too much into it because there was a little something closer. It was there was there was a scare that happened.

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Okay.

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Yeah, but we'll get to that.

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Um talk about our boy party and Buzzsaw.

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Honestly, one of the best matches of the night. Uh actually I I uh talked to Party uh during intermission and uh you know I said what's up. Always a great time to see him, and you know, I asked him, I was like, you know, what's what's the plans with Nate tonight, you know? So he's like, you have to get him back from what happened. And uh, you know, he said he had some stuff up his sleeve and he was gonna get that get back, and we was talking about, you know, partying, but Nate, you know, Nate had to be took care of first. And so fast forward to the match. Great match, honestly. Uh love the buzzsaw gimmick from Nate. I mean, it it honestly gets better and better each time you see it.

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I'm sure it does.

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And uh unfortunately, our boy party didn't get the dub. Oh hey, I don't believe he did he did not, but that sucks. But I will say you did miss something that I I know you're probably gonna pitch a fit right now. Black dog yeah, not just I mean you trust me, I was throwing the fit over you. You missed her, and it and it this is to do with her. But right at the start of the match, he party got her in the ring and they started dancing a little bit.

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Oh no. I leaned over to Wes. I said, God, Clay's gonna be so mad when he finds this out.

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I seen she was there because Nate posted on his Facebook like she took a bunch of bumps and stuff.

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Uh she got the hellby out of her last night. Yeah, that's what I heard. Like three or four separate bumps throughout the whole match. Listen, I just want to one of my favorite spots I saw, and I don't know if it's if it was Nate working or him just doing his job, but he was outside like ringside him and Dahlia, and you know, they were just you know talking to each other and not paying attention to party. Well, party goes and hits the ropes and goes to hit like a shooter drop kick through the bottom rope. And last second, Nate, as party's coming, last second Nate just pulls Dahlia right into the right into fire and it gets out of the way. And it was just, I mean, it was so smooth and crisp, you almost missed it if you weren't paying attention.

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She's awesome.

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Oh god, yes. Her matches are so good. And well, if I'm not mistaken, I don't think she's actually had a match. Oh, really? I don't I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure like she's not had a match. She may not because I seen Nate posted like he's proud of her because she's got that um I don't even want to say it because I know I'll say I'll I'll get the letters mixed up, but she's I know it starts with a C.

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Yes. But it's like pain from like previous injuries or surgeries or something. Something like that.

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And I reckon just like constant pain, slide of things, just absolute pain. And she still is so good. I mean, you you you you take a you take a regular person, no problems at all, and they take a bump, you know, they're tapping out right there, they're throwing in the flag. Yeah. She's out there getting power bombed, taking uh what's that what's that one move? Uh Moonsault and Battery from uh Shane Mercer. Have you ever seen that?

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Uh-uh. I ain't seen that.

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Well, you might have I don't know if you you you could have seen the clip because it went like it went viral. He uh he had her in, you know, like in a crossbody and was up on the second rope and does a backflip into like a slamp. Yeah.

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Oh my gosh.

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She's taking shit like that with what she deals with. That is wild. I mean, that that chick is tougher than most men out there.

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Yeah. That's insane.

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Yeah.

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So what other matches was there? I didn't see much really.

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Um, they're really it wasn't as big as a card as some of the previous shows. Yeah. And I will say too, last show was called Uprising, right? Or was it this show?

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This show is uprising. Last last show was Ascension.

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Okay, yes. So Ascension, you know, booming show. And so it's it's it's hard to to follow, follow up on a humongous show like that, you know. I mean, I feel like any promotion would, you know, or booker would would say that. And I don't think they they didn't fail or anything like that. It just wasn't as big. Yeah. You know? And not all your shows have to be that big either. No, as long as it's just as long as the pro you know what's happening is good, that's all that matters. You know, good matches, the good promos, you know, that's all that matters. It don't matter if they're if if there's three matches on the card or if there's twelve, you know.

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I'm telling you, this June show is about to be insane.

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I I truly think that's going to be like I thought Ascension was a big show. I think this has to be a humongous show. It's it's the one year anniversary. Yeah. You know, so like me thinking, I would think that's like their WrestleMania. It has to be. Has to. You know?

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Because like they've grown they've grown so much in years.

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In just in a year.

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Like, it's wild. And I'm so glad we get to go watch their shows every two months and we get to sponsor them.

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Get to work with them and to support them, and just as much as they support us, you know.

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We love Jonathan and Bobo, and Absolutely. We're so happy to be working with them.

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Great, just a great promotion. Yeah. Whether whether you whether you're working with them or just going as a fan, being affiliated with Kentucky Championship Wrestling is a thing to do.

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KCW and Innovate has our hearts.

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Absolutely. Forever.

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Two great promotions.

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Two of the greatest, I think.

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Yeah.

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I've I've KCW. KCW runs East Kentucky. And I feel like Innovate runs East Tennessee. Yeah. And that's an F-A-K-T. Fact. Shout out troublemakers.

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Yeah, yeah. Yeah. I've never I've never met them. Oh yeah, you you did.

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Yeah, we met them at the at that show with the Joe. Yeah. Whenever they fought the Kazanas. Awesome guys. Awesome.

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Um lifeguard Ross wasn't there, was he? Yeah, he was. He was. I seen him on the poster, but I wasn't sure.

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Let me let me try to think who he who he worked with.

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Vaughn Schmidt.

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No, he wasn't there. Huh? He was he was not there. Like he wasn't even like there at all.

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Maybe maybe they said something to him. I don't know. I don't know. I maybe he had to work on changing his moves.

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I don't know. I mean, yeah, maybe he was just thinking about decisions and correcting them. I hope.

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I mean I like I like the move Wes gave him.

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Schmidt happened. Yeah. I think that's great. I like that. It's fine. I mean, I I think that was that would have been a much better choice. Did he wrestle? Um but no, Ross fought, it was actually a dude that we had never seen. Island Fury. I can't remember it's like his name, but his like nickname is Island Fury. Um it was a pretty slow-paced match. I think I think it was the second match of the night. And I will say before pre-intermission, crowd was dead. Crowd was dead as hell. It was.

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It's because I it's because me and dad wasn't there.

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That's exactly what it happened. It was like, you know, me and Chase, you know, we did we did the best we could, but honestly, if you and if you and D ain't there, it's it's hard. It's hard to carry a crowd. Y'all open the door, and then everyone else just follows, you know? And it and it just works perfect. And it's hard whenever y'all ain't there. And ascension was wild. God, am I I mean honest? If there was a show that I was gonna be at without y'all, it would have been that because I wouldn't have had no problem with the crowd.

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Everybody was there and was so energetic.

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But I will say uh after intermission, Bobby, Bobby Watson came out, kind of got the crowd hyped up and stuff, and they were they were much more alive second half, which which made which is overall made it much better. But um well with uh Ross's match. He got the yeah, he got the dub. Okay. Yeah, yeah, I'm pretty easy to do.

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I'm glad he did because he's he's been getting pooped lately. Ross is awesome.

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Yeah, he's he's so great. We gotta get him on. He's actually gonna be in the goal for gold later match at Bloody Breath. I hope he wins that. That would be awesome.

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We're not going to that though, I don't think. I think we're going to innovate.

Birdo Vs Hamrick Main Event Chaos

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Yeah, probably. I mean, Jason Kincaid's last match. Yeah, we have to. First time we first and last time we'll ever get to see him wrestle. Uh yeah.

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Um Sean Cruz got kicked in the nuts by Mercy.

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Sean Cruz woke up as Shauna Cruz this morning. Yeah, he did. Mercy got her get back. And I said it, but I said it earlier, Sean. If you're listening to this, baby, what comes around goes around. And by God, it came back and bit you right in the ass.

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We're posting this as a clip. I hope you do.

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You better.

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Gosh, I can't wait.

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But um, yeah, no, uh, Mercy Birdo got was, you know, got the dub and was celebrating around, and uh Sean came out and was, you know, face to face with Birto right in the ring, and Mercy was sitting there at the at the announcer's table. We was right behind him at the announcer's table. And so she like she must have got a I don't know if she got word on the headset or what, but she quickly got up and just kind of snuck into the ring and just got just stood behind Sean and just waited until he turned around and then just hauled off and kicked him.

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I seen the clip of it.

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He he was probably choking on him this morning.

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Yeah. He he said he had to ice them all night and I wouldn't doubt if they're still iced. And he said Jonathan and Bobo had to do something about her.

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Oh shit.

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Just complaining all the time.

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Mercy is an angel. All right, you leave her alone.

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Um tell me how'd Birdo win the title?

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Well, he didn't win the title, he just he just won f to choose the stipulation for the title. Yeah, okay. So Birdo's still chasing the goat out there.

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You had me excited.

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No, no, he ain't got it, he ain't got it yet. And I will I won't say, well, I won't say, I will say, I thought Hippo was gonna get stole again last night. Really? Which he can he did during the match, and I was like, God, please don't be doing this again. I hippo can't be going through that again. You know, like that's enough, that's enough trauma in what, nine months? Well, we'll go about a year. It's coming up again. It's about a year. But um, you know, it was Nick uh Hamrick's manager, I don't know his name. We'll call him Toupe guy. Uh he got his hands on Hippo and just like had him throughout the whole match. I will I will say this too. There's this little girl sitting in front of us, and that manager like was hiding the hippo behind his back, and he like got too close to the barricade. That little girl wretched through there and tried grabbing it out of his hands.

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Dude. That sounds like something Colt would do.

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Honestly, if he was if he was in her seat, he probably would have. I think he would have. He was sitting behind her, actually. I think I I definitely think you would have did that.

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Yes. Um, I did see his manager on Sean's Facebook post, but I don't I don't know who it is.

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I I guess I don't know his name either. I've I've seen him before previous times I've seen Nick because I think he's managed Nick for a while now. I don't know years, I would say.

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It used to be Luis Cortez. Remember?

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For Nick or Sean?

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For Sean.

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Oh, well, see, uh that dude, I reckon that dude is just like Nick's manager.

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Yeah.

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Which unless they they're working together, then I guess he'll turn into Sean's manager.

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I guess so.

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But that's a good thing. I I like how I'm glad you brought that up. Where the hell is Luis?

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Um, they said he's doing Hollywood stuff.

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Well, yeah, they did say that.

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Yeah. But like He was great though.

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I know he really is. Like, what happened to what happened to the Beauty and the Best? Yeah. I mean, as as much as as much as I hate Sean Cruz, but what happened to the beauty and the best?

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That's an awesome name.

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It really was. I love Beauty and the Best. And the match they, their tag match they had back in October, dude. Yeah. That gear they had, that Beauty and the Beast gear. We got it one time and then they just there's blue balls. But there's blue ball in us now.

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You know who I miss? Who? Goose. Oh, he was there. He was there last time.

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Oh my gosh. He was there. Um he didn't have a match, but he did he he uh ran in during the main event and and took care of Sean. Oh, okay. Because Sean, you know, during during the main event, came in and was just, you know, by uh Nick's Nick's side. And, you know, Sean's being the dirty bastard he is, cheating and everything else. And next thing you know, here comes Kenny and Goose. Took them out, and then Kenny just made a way made his way back to the back, took care, came out, took care of business, and then went back. That's so awesome. I know, dude. He is uh I'm trying to think. I think that was about the only interferences on that. Pretty sure.

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That's why I wish Schmitt Schmidt was there. Because he was the last person to attack it uh to attack Kenny before he vanished for a little while. Dude ain't even a bad wrestler, isn't it? No. His gimmick's just hilarious and it's comedic and he can't do nothing with it.

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I just think it's bad bad decisions, decision making with the gimmick. It is. I mean, honestly, dude, I would he looks like Nikita Kolov.

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Oh I don't know who that is.

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He's way before both of our times. Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah, like territory days. Okay. Yeah, the Russians, him and Ivan Kolov. Okay. Definitely need to watch him though. Great, great shit. But um, I swear to God, he looks just like Nikita Kolov. And I reckon they're actually like bringing back, you know, bringing that that rut yeah the Russian bloodline, we'll say it like that, you know, back to like modern wrestling. Dude, I'd jump on that train. Well, I mean, they did it with the bloodline. You ain't gotta be a Kolov just to be to be the Russians.

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Yeah.

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I mean, I'd do that and I'd do that and run with it.

Shockwave Announcement And Jungle Gym Talk

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Yeah. Um, anything else about KCW?

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Really? Um, they did announce um the next show June 13th.

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June 13th.

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I'm almost positive. Let me just double check.

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June 13th at the nest. KCW actually started in June.

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I believe, yeah. So it it it is. Should be the one-year anniversary. It is, I believe they said it was called, it's it's gonna be KCW Shockwave.

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Shockwave.

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I'm about I'm pretty sure. Uh Shockwave. June 13th at the nest, down in Burgie, Kentucky.

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Um Hopefully we get to see Berto versus Sean in like an unsanctioned match, street fight, something.

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Well, I will say I did ask Birto during intermission prior to the to the main event. I said, if you win this match, I said, have you thought about the stipulation any yet? Do you want to know what he said?

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What'd he say?

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Don't know if this will be his choice, but I guess he's just weighing his options out. But he said he's thinking about like a jungle gym match.

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Jungle gym? Yeah.

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What? What do you mean? A jungle gym. Like slides, foam pits, all the whole nine. Really? That's what he said. How are they gonna do that? It's wrestling, baby. Anything can happen. Yeah. Yeah. That's true. I would love to see it.

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I think it'd be fun.

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Bobo, not Bobo. Birdo, if you're listening, I think you should stick to that stipulation. And John, if you're listening, if we I want to walk into the nest come June 13th, and I want slides. Galore, slides. I want a phone pit over in the corner. I mean, I want throw everything. I want everything in her monkey bars. Whole nine, alright? Me too. Don't even announce a stipulation, alright? I guess I just did.

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Yeah. Work or shoot podcast is calling the shots now.

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Work or shoot, are we calling the shots? Shoot. What do I know? I'm just a guy on a podcast.

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Yeah. Wannabe wrestler on a podcast.

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That's all I am. That's all it is.

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That's what we both are.

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A boy can dream.

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Um, anything else?

Food Review And KCW Wrap

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I I believe that's about all the good juicy, juicy stuff with KCW. Solid, just great show. I mean, no complaints at all. Oh yeah. Food review.

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Oh yeah, food review. How was it?

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10 out of 10. I mean, what do you expect? I mean, uh, didn't drop my hot dogs. Good. Did not drop them.

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Uh I don't have a problem with it. That's just Wes.

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They were deli- I I know. He's an asshole. I mean, I've not lived it down. Had poor Tanner giving me hell over it. Oh. Wes wasn't even there, and Tanner is giving me hell over it, dude. He I we bought him. He said, Don't drop him now. I said, Shut the fuck up, dude.

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Dude, I love Tanner.

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He does it. Shout out Tanner.

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Calls me all the time, but I never have time to answer. I really don't. I want to so bad.

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He'll he'll he'll holler at me. I'm like, hey man, I'm at work, but text me. Yeah.

Pat McAfee Return And TKO Angle

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Um, I guess since KCW talk is over, I guess we'll go into WWE now. Just I got a couple notes here.

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Jump right into it.

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We'll just jump right into it. Why not? Um Pat McAfee came back and apparently he went off script with Randy during his promo. And apparently it was TKO's idea to bring him back and start that storyline.

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See, I've been seeing that stuff too.

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I didn't watch the promo, but I did see.

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I ain't watched it fully through. Like I've seen like clips of it.

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Yeah, I have too. And I mean, people don't like it, but I think it's awesome.

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I've always loved Pat. Me too. I mean, honestly, like the people that I feel like everyone loved Pat in the beginning, and then it's like just like the the I classic IWC, they're just gonna they turn on you at at some point.

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Yeah.

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And I've always loved Pat. I mean, the energy alone, that's all you need. He brings the energy, he has the dedication to the business, you know. So I'm for one, I'm happy to see him back. Ecstatic to see him heel. I love seeing someone turn back.

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I love Pat.

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You know, I love a good heel turn. And does it make sense pairing him with Randy? No, not really. But it's a badass pairing. So I mean, what is there really to complain about?

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Like I did see something. It was like Pat McAfee and Randy Orton versus Cody Rhodes and Jelly Roll.

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I could see that happening.

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I think I think that could happen.

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I I I could see it ended up happening as a follow-up.

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Yeah. And Randy is champion. Okay, that's a good. Do you think Randy beats Cody?

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I pray to God he does.

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I hope he does too.

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I mean, I really What are we going to gain from Cody keeping the title? And this is coming from a Cody fan, you know?

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Yeah.

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Like, Cody's awesome. Cody is face of the company. He's the guy. But damn, man. That, you know, him as champion, it got stale before, and it's getting stale again.

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I agree.

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And but I will say, I do like what they're doing with them. Cause I'm telling you, Cody is just slowly creeping to that hill turn. He is. I mean, it's it is coming. I was actually talking to Tanner last night. I can see it happening at Mania. Well, this is how I can see it happening. Randy beats him, and then he he turns right then and there. Or it won't be real long after mania. Whether it's uh raw after or or backlash or you know something like that. I really I feel I feel like it's right around the corner.

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Yeah, I I don't think it'll turn it mania, but I think it could be the raw after. Because raw after mania is a pretty big thing.

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Oh god, yeah, raw after mania is just as big as mania in my you know, most years. Um but did you see what Cody came out? I think it was at the it was either at the end of SmackDown or after SmackDown. But did you come out, or did you see what he came out and said in his promo?

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Uh-uh.

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He came out and cut a promo basically on the executives and higher up, like he shot, he he was shooting on TKO. And I read that I reckon people backstage told him to go out there and like and shoot on that topic about you know how the executives and TKO is just sticking their nose in creative. So you you ri essentially you got work and shoot within the same storyline.

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Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Because you got Pat coming in on TKO's side, right?

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

And then you got Cody over here absolutely just burying it, yeah. You know, speaking the real about it.

SPEAKER_02

I love that. That's real work or shoot.

SPEAKER_01

Absolutely. And pe and again, people talking about celebrities getting involved, all right? For one, can it get out of hand and has it before? Absolutely. But dude, we've been doing this since since the first WrestleMania, I'm pretty sure. Celebrities have always been involved.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, that's what that's what I've been saying. Like, this is celeb mania right now. I mean We got Lil Yachty, Speed, Jelly Roll. Jelly Roll.

SPEAKER_01

Hell, who else is there?

SPEAKER_02

I feel like there's one more.

SPEAKER_01

I feel like there is too. But like I don't I don't see no problem with it, especially Oh, uh Lil Yachty. I said that. Oh, did you? Yeah. Oh, I didn't hear you. My bad. Oh, it's fine. Um but like I've never been one to have a problem with celebrities as long as they put that dedication into it. Yeah. You know? And the ones that are involved have. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Speed, speed is doing good work, I think.

SPEAKER_01

Speed paid his dues when he took that spear from Braun in the Rumble. That's all he had to do, and he was good. I mean, and then and then everything else was just for the love of the game. It has to be.

SPEAKER_02

He got attacked on stream.

SPEAKER_01

That was awesome.

SPEAKER_02

That was that was kind of cool actually.

SPEAKER_01

I love that. Again, boy when those lines of work or shoot, you know what I mean? Like, it's obvious to work, but to the people that don't get it, you know, those speed fans watching that stream who don't watch wrestling, or you know, I bet they were like, oh my god. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Like Yeah. That's what I was thinking when I was watching the clip. I was like, who's watching this that does not watch wrestling?

SPEAKER_01

Like that had to been freaking hell out.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah. Well, here's the first worker shoot of the day, all right?

SPEAKER_01

Hit me.

SPEAKER_02

TKO wants a bad product so Triple H can get fired.

SPEAKER_01

Did you see where Billy Gunn said something basically like that?

SPEAKER_02

No.

SPEAKER_01

Billy Gunn and Road Dog were at a signing or something here in the last week, and Billy Gunn made the comment uh, and I don't know the full context, but he made the comment of that they're firing Triple H after Mania or they're wanting to, or something like that.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, I think so. I think they want to. I don't think they will.

SPEAKER_01

That's valid.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

I really, I really don't it's so weird because I don't watch SmackDown, I don't watch SmackDown every week. I'm like, I watch Raw every week. And for at least the last month, dude, I've been loving Raw.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, I have too. Like the props, Raw's been so good.

SPEAKER_01

Great. And you know, this week's SmackDown, from what I've seen was was, you know, hot. Uh I want to say, you know, the last week or two of SmackDown, you know, has been pretty good. Smackdown, you know, for the last year or so has been like the shittier show. Yeah. But I mean, I feel like it's it's stepping up. And it could just be because Rath Mania's around the corner.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

It could just be like every other year, and the road to WrestleMania is absolutely on fire. And as soon as Raw after Mania or that week after Mania's over, then it just goes. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

It's poop. And then NXT is awesome right now.

SPEAKER_01

NXT's always been awesome, my brother. I know you don't keep up with it, but I don't as much as I should, but it's always been awesome. I ain't even got to watch it too to know that. It's great.

SPEAKER_02

Standing Deliver was awesome, I heard. Was it? That's what I heard. I didn't watch much of it, but I didn't get to watch it either. I wasn't gonna go over that card, but I don't I didn't see any of the matches.

SPEAKER_01

I'm not even too sure what I was on either.

SPEAKER_02

I'm not either. All I know was Tony D'Angelo won the title. Yeah, I did see that. And Lola Vice won the title. And then Sol Ruka beat Zarya.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, did you? Yeah. Nice, nice.

SPEAKER_02

And then uh I think the those other dudes beat Los Americanos to retain the titles. I don't know what their names was. And then Dark State attacked Milesborne after his match. Um that's that's all I know. Uh then next on my list is um Melo's injured.

SPEAKER_01

Is he really?

SPEAKER_02

I think so.

Injuries Botches And Suicide Dives

SPEAKER_01

You think that's why they took the title off of him?

SPEAKER_02

I don't know, but in his match with Sammy, he uh he was going for or he did a suicide dive, I think, or something, and blew his knee out, and he like pulled his knee pad down and started holding his knee. Shit, I didn't see that. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Well, we're speaking about botches and stuff like that, dude. Did you see EO's botch on that dive last week on Raw? Oh, I did. She leaned up. She almost killed herself. She leaded herself and then jumped up like it was nothing. No sold the shit, and then got back in the ring and kept working.

SPEAKER_02

She almost killed herself. I know.

SPEAKER_01

I watched, I was like, oh my god, and she just told me she bought it right back right back up, and I was like, well, she's alright.

SPEAKER_02

That is wild. Like, I I thought she was concussed at least.

SPEAKER_01

Dude, I wasn't ex- I wasn't expecting to see her get back up.

SPEAKER_02

I know.

SPEAKER_01

She just ate it like it was nothing. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Botches are insane now.

SPEAKER_01

That and honestly, women doing suicide dives has always been like such a, I guess you could say pet peeve. Because only it's like only one in ten women, you can have ten women hit a suicide dive, and like one of them is gonna hit a clean one. Yeah. The rest of them, they're not gonna have enough speed, their body's gonna bounce off the ropes because they're going between or something like that. They're gonna get caught. And EO's one of the good ones. I feel like that was just truly a botch.

SPEAKER_02

That really, that really was a botch.

SPEAKER_01

So like I ain't shitting on EO, but help Brie Brie Bella. Oh my god, dude.

SPEAKER_02

When I ooh, when I You know how the worker shoot crew feels about the Bella twins.

SPEAKER_01

Dude, I'm telling you, I still remember I'm talking 10 years ago, they're at like the height of the Bella twins, and every time Brie Bella would go hit those damn ropes for a suicide dive, I would just be like. She botched it every time. And if she didn't botch it, she damn near did every time. She would like. And it's, you know, I feel like a lot of it is they're not getting enough bounce off the ropes, but most women don't. That ain't a problem, you know. Women just ain't as as big as the men, you know. It's it's not sexist. But it's just but you ain't gotta be big to get a good bounce off the ropes, you know? Yeah. Just hit those son of a bitches, you know?

SPEAKER_03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Get a good bounce. There's your speed to get through the ropes. Or just move them feet quick. Yeah. But again, what the hell do I know?

SPEAKER_02

Well, well, yeah, yeah. What does anybody know now?

SPEAKER_01

Honestly.

SPEAKER_02

It's not sexist. I promise. We love women, wrestlers. Um, would you be surprised if there's any returns at WrestleMania?

SPEAKER_01

That's hard to give an answer on just because it's mania, and who knows what surprises we're gonna get.

SPEAKER_02

I don't I don't I'll be surprised if there's surprises. I know, I know dad said that last episode, but I think he's right. I think there'll be like a little bit like Bianca's gonna come back.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, I feel like that's true because they're already trying to hype and book the hell out of it because for one, it's in Vegas, and two, ticket sales, you know, so they're they're trying to throw everything at the wall.

SPEAKER_02

And we're not gonna get Jericho, he just returned to AEW.

SPEAKER_01

So, I mean That was that would have been the biggest thing of the year.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, it would have. And that's now Triple H is which sold us on that one.

SPEAKER_01

Um Did you see why Jericho chose to stay?

SPEAKER_02

No.

SPEAKER_01

Uh something about like wanting to work with uh the young talents and development with AEW. Yeah, I can see that, I guess. Which and well, not just that too. Um I think like everyone, everyone was gonna predict, and everyone knew what WWE offered him was a year run or whatever, and what do you think it was gonna end with?

SPEAKER_02

Going through retiring him.

SPEAKER_01

Yep. Yeah. So honestly, I can't blame the man. Yeah. Yeah, that's true. I mean, he is is he getting some age on him? He is, but dude still has some in the tank, so I I get it.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

That that would have been big, but I wouldn't have. But honestly, as much as I would have liked seeing him back, I'm glad it didn't happen just because it would have been another same old shit. Yeah. I mean, we we know how I feel about the Gunther stuff.

unknown

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

I mean, I I love Gunther. Great wrestler. I don't think he like I'm just I don't the retirement gimmick sucks. Oh gets old. It is old. I'm glad I'm just glad Seth ain't retiring.

SPEAKER_02

What is the point of that match?

SPEAKER_01

I actually read something earlier, which makes sense. Gunther's doing a favor for Paul fighting Seth. In return for a favor from Paul to Gunther, which will be Brock at SummerSlam.

SPEAKER_02

Okay. Makes sense now.

SPEAKER_01

It does. I can get behind it.

SPEAKER_02

Me too. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

And I think I might be a contradicting guy sometimes, but if the retirement match makes sense, fire away. You know?

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

I don't think AJ made sense. No.

SPEAKER_02

There wasn't really a story to it.

SPEAKER_01

Or if they would have at least had some space in between Cena. I mean it was barely a month after retiring Cena. Yeah. When you retire AJ. Yeah. Like I get it. You know, just everything that follows the heat, the what it does for you, I get it. But as a fan, dude, I mean, it it just gets old.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Three retirements in less than a year. We're gonna have four.

SPEAKER_02

Coming up, because Ray, Ray's gonna retire. He announced September.

SPEAKER_01

Well, when is Clash in Italy?

SPEAKER_02

September. No, June.

SPEAKER_01

Is it in June?

SPEAKER_02

It's September or June. I can't remember. But I only say that because Clash in Paris was in September last year.

SPEAKER_01

True. I don't know. It might be it. It'll be Ray or Brock, the next one, the next one to retire.

SPEAKER_02

Because Ray announced his retirement in Clash in Italy. And then he had a few, Gunther had a few with Dragon Lane. I thought that was going to lead up to the Ray.

SPEAKER_01

Well, I figure I think it was until Ray got hurt.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Um, and again, I can fully support if they go that route with lighting him up for Goom or for Brock, because there's a story to it, you know? Yeah. Like I I the story to Cena was the tournament, but like there was just so many other people I feel like that could have used that.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

But again, Gunther is a good heel. I get it.

SPEAKER_02

But remember Cena said he didn't know who was gonna win.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. I really wonder I wonder if he really didn't.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah. Work or two. Actually, uh work.

SPEAKER_01

No, no, that would work. Oh, yeah, it does.

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Work.

SPEAKER_01

Yes, it worked.

WrestleMania 42 Card Predictions Begin

SPEAKER_02

Yeah. Um talked about jerk over time. You wanna go over the mania card? Let's do it. So staying in the liver was really good. Because um, I love Tony. Tony and D'Angelo. And that was my pick that I picked on mine and dad's pick ons. I I just wanted to throw that out there because I love Tony.

SPEAKER_01

So WrestleMania 42 card. Uh this ain't in by night or in order. But starting out, we have the World Heavyweight Championship match, punk versus Roman.

SPEAKER_02

Very excited for that match.

SPEAKER_01

I'm so ecstatic for it. Like as long as Roman don't win, I will have no complaints, honestly.

SPEAKER_02

I really hope I really hope what I said, like him going with the vision, punk. I hope that happens, really.

SPEAKER_01

That would be but Honestly, that could kick off him and Seth again.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

But I think that's that really is. That would be good. Yeah. Ooh.

SPEAKER_02

But I think if Cody turns heel on Saturday, then Punk's not gonna turn heel on Sunday.

SPEAKER_01

But Punk is the heel.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, but not actually.

SPEAKER_01

He's not, but I guess uh I guess you are right though. But then maybe Cody just ain't turning. That's that's why I don't think Cody's gonna turn. So yeah, that you I yeah, I'm picking up what you're dropping. Uh, but yeah, that's that's gonna be Dude, the build-up's been insane. I guess I every promo every Monday.

SPEAKER_02

Probably the best promo work I've seen in a long time.

SPEAKER_01

Some of the best promos since uh built up to Mania 40.

SPEAKER_02

Oh, yeah, for sure.

SPEAKER_01

I would say some of the some of the best best uh stuff since then. Yeah. Um are they are they gonna be uh together tonight on on roll? I'd say I don't know. I it's probably announced, but I just I haven't looked. Yeah, I haven't looked either. I hope they are.

SPEAKER_02

I hope they are too.

SPEAKER_01

Or honestly, if not, if Rama's not in town, send Punk out and send Jay and send the Usos back out. I'm loving that too.

SPEAKER_02

I love I'm I'm starting to like Jay again.

SPEAKER_01

Oh god, yes. You give us crash crash out Jay is always the answer.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah. And then uh shoot. I was gonna say something.

SPEAKER_01

I can't think. It must have been a line.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah. Must have been.

SPEAKER_01

Um but then next we have oh go ahead.

SPEAKER_02

Uh I would watch I would watch Raw, but I have a game tomorrow.

SPEAKER_01

Go figure.

SPEAKER_02

I can't help it, man. It's not me. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

It's ridiculous.

SPEAKER_02

I I'm I'm about to quit and just train and stay at home and study. Okay, go ahead now. That's what I was gonna say. I forgot.

SPEAKER_01

But uh the next we got uh for the women's world championship, uh Stephanie Vakir versus Liv Morgan. Okay, okay, okay, okay. The Royal Rumble winner.

SPEAKER_02

Um I'm excited for this match too, actually.

SPEAKER_01

I am too. I will say the promos and build-up for it, I don't I haven't been paying too much attention.

SPEAKER_02

I don't think there has been a build-up really.

SPEAKER_01

Like they've they've they've had their like their pro their segments each week, but like I said, I've just not really I'm not paying too much attention.

SPEAKER_02

I'd rather it be Raquel. Just saying.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, which this is is this the first was this the first rumble Liv would won? Yeah. But it ain't the first.

SPEAKER_02

She's she's been in she's been in every rumble.

SPEAKER_01

But she ain't I know they're not they're not main eventing. No, they don't maintain. Has she won it? Has she won a title at Mania? Uh I think.

SPEAKER_02

I don't know.

SPEAKER_01

I'm not sure either. I mean, I know she's won countless titles, yeah. But I'm just not sure.

SPEAKER_02

I don't know, actually. That's a good question.

SPEAKER_01

But I do agree. I feel like I won't say Liv's not deserving, because Liv is one of the best women, you know, one of the best women on the roster. But I do feel like Raquel definitely deserves something. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

But I think she deserves an IC title, is what I think.

SPEAKER_01

Dude, throw it honestly. Because she she ain't she's not won anything other than the tag.

unknown

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Right. Yeah. Yeah, dude. Throw that mid-card on her.

SPEAKER_02

I think so, tough.

SPEAKER_01

Let Liv win the title. Throw the mid-card on her. Throw the IC on her. Dude, that'd be great.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah. And then JD's.

SPEAKER_01

JD's just third. Yeah. Big headed ass. Bobblehead.

SPEAKER_02

Balor Club. Balor Club. We're Balor Club all day.

SPEAKER_01

Balor Club, Bullet Club. Love Balor. The club.

SPEAKER_02

Uh we'll go straight to that match then. Finn Balor versus Dominic Mysterio.

SPEAKER_01

I'm excited for that match.

SPEAKER_02

Me too.

SPEAKER_01

That that I feel like that match will probably hit like crack.

SPEAKER_02

Really wish there was a title on the line.

SPEAKER_01

I wish there was too. Why well, I get I get it. I guess I get why not, but just fuck throw the triple A title on the line. Oh Also off topic, but it's not it's on my mind. So why who was it that announced uh they were gonna fight Penta? It was Vikingo. Oh yeah, yeah. Why the hell did Vikingo go on Triple A and announce he's he or challenge or whatever Pinta for the IC title with Mania. Then the following week, or just two days later on Raw, they announce a ladder match.

SPEAKER_02

A ladder match.

SPEAKER_01

And it's an un and it's an une there's like five guys or or something. Like it's an it's an uneven number in the match right now. Unless Vikingo is is like a last thrown in.

SPEAKER_02

It's check who it is. Check who's on the you know what?

SPEAKER_01

That's a good idea.

SPEAKER_02

I think it's I know JD's one. Then Pinta.

SPEAKER_01

So with that match, uh it's Pinta, Javon Evans, Dragon Lee, Rusev, and JD Madonna.

SPEAKER_02

I don't know.

SPEAKER_01

I just think the people with the five-man ladder match.

SPEAKER_02

I just think the people in that match is just Javon's gonna do amazing.

SPEAKER_01

Oh god, yeah.

SPEAKER_02

I don't know how I feel about Rusev being in that match.

SPEAKER_01

Rusev probably is not gonna do much.

SPEAKER_02

But yeah, I think he'll just be in there to push ladders over and I mean.

SPEAKER_01

Why the hell did Rusev? Well, he wouldn't do nothing in AEW either. Oh. And I'm not like a big crazy Rusev guy, but dude is good. And I ain't saying throw the title on him, but he could be a brute to push, dude. Almost like a Braun Strowman type stuff, you know? Yeah. Just a monster and just raking through everyone.

SPEAKER_02

I wouldn't think so.

SPEAKER_01

I feel like if anyone wins.

SPEAKER_02

Maybe JD.

SPEAKER_01

I was about to say there's a few different things. Javon for sure, I think, should win.

unknown

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

That'd be the earliest somebody's ever gotten a title, though. Oh yeah. Um I could see Dragon Lee. I mean, he's good. Yeah. And I could see JD, because y'all, because you gotta think too. It'll be I could see JD winning, especially if they throw it on Live and uh, well no, Raquel ain't fighting for the IC title, but I could see JD winning the IC title, Live win the women's title, and then they throw the IC on Raquel.

SPEAKER_02

That'd be hot.

SPEAKER_01

Maybe I maybe I'm just Mark booking, you know?

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, you might be Mark Housing.

SPEAKER_01

You know, but uh I think that would be awesome. That'd be great. And not just that, JD will have the title Dom had, so then you know that'll Yeah, that'll start something. You know, add add, you know, something in that.

SPEAKER_02

And then no, I think we get JD and Finn, and then Finn beats JD. Oh. Oh. Book it. JD, JD wins that ladder match, and then Finn and JD at SummerSlam. That would be awesome. Or maybe backlash. Or even backlash. Yeah. And then Finn beats him at Backlash. In the main event.

SPEAKER_01

That would be awesome.

SPEAKER_02

Book it.

SPEAKER_01

I'm telling you, I they gotta have the world title on Finn by at least by the end of 27. Yeah. I mean, I I've caught it for months now. Of course, they had to get him away from the judgment day. And once once he gets all that settled, I'm I'm I'm once again calling it. He's he's gonna be in the title picture.

SPEAKER_02

I don't think he will. I don't think he'll win it this year, but I think he does in 27.

SPEAKER_01

That's what I'm thinking. You know, it I mean, I'm giving him a stretch to by the end of 27, he'll either win it or have it by then.

SPEAKER_02

Uh-huh. He'll be in the picture for it.

SPEAKER_01

Yes, I feel like I think he'll be in the I I could see him being in the picture maybe by the end or of this year or start of 27.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Because not to say we we need a we need a we need to run it back with him and Seth.

unknown

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

We do. Um there's plenty of time for the title to get back to Seth.

SPEAKER_02

Oh yeah. He's gonna have one of the titles soon.

SPEAKER_01

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Um, next match.

SPEAKER_01

Uh let's get back here. Uh we got for the WWE Women's Championship, uh, Jade Cargill versus Rhea. It sucks so much because I love Rhea so much.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, that's how I feel.

SPEAKER_01

Like all Jade, like she she just has the look. That's really all she has. Yeah. She has the look and the theme. I'll say it like that. I love her theme. She does. She has a kick-ass theme. She just can't wrestle. She doesn't wrestle. She don't. Like, I don't I don't get why they put it on put the title on her.

SPEAKER_02

I'm almost 100% sure Rhea's gonna bait her.

SPEAKER_01

I pray to God she does.

SPEAKER_02

If she don't, I'm turning the TV off.

SPEAKER_01

If Rhea don't win, we riot.

SPEAKER_02

Not really.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, if Rhea don't win, we riot. We're gonna have a big ass sign here at the house. It's gonna be that Rhea can't see and won't win. It's gonna be right there. That Rhea won't won't be able to see and won't even know it's there. But by God, if Rhea don't win, we riot.

SPEAKER_02

Next week, next week it's gonna be right here.

SPEAKER_01

Yes.

SPEAKER_02

If Rhea don't win, we riot. Trust me, I'll I'll tell I'll tell Heavy D. Put a sign right there. Says if Rhea don't win, we riot.

SPEAKER_01

If he don't, then we will.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Tune into the show.

SPEAKER_02

We're two mid-carters.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

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We're the mid-cards of this show.

SPEAKER_01

We gotta we got we gotta get this shit over.

Ladder Match Booking And Judgment Day Futures

SPEAKER_02

Yeah. I told dad, I said, Do you just want me and know to record tonight? Because you've been driving all day. And he was like, Yeah. I said, Okay, I'll do whatever it takes to get us over.

SPEAKER_01

You wanna know my opinion? What? I think he's just bitch made. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

I agree.

SPEAKER_01

Heavy D's a bitch made boy. Clock it. Clock it right there.

SPEAKER_02

Uh gosh. We gotta stay on track. Um how many how many curses are we gonna get at Nania?

SPEAKER_01

Ooh. I hope the whole damn place gets cursed. I do too. Fans and all. Yeah. Uh curse the whole city of Vegas.

SPEAKER_02

Did you see the ref got cursed? I did, dude, but he got a cramp while he was doing the count.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

And then he cost Miz the match.

SPEAKER_01

That's not funny. Which did did I see something? Did he like did R-Truth tag Dan Housing in something? Tagged in Dan Housing. I saw something talking about um that was like such a or they someone saw it as like a passing the torch moment. Yeah. Which if it is if that's the case, that is awesome. But we do, we definitely need some truth. We need some truth housing before before that tr before that torch is officially.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, that's what I was thinking. We're about to get truth housing.

SPEAKER_01

Yes, we have to. Maybe it happens at Mania.

SPEAKER_02

Well, they got the tag titles. Priest and face. They do. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

And Danhausen is a greedy little bastard. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

He is. He'll curse you.

SPEAKER_01

He will.

SPEAKER_02

I tried to curse Maddie's husband at the wedding.

SPEAKER_01

How'd that go?

SPEAKER_02

It didn't work.

unknown

Damn.

SPEAKER_01

Maybe we should have cursed him.

SPEAKER_02

Before the wedding.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Why are we talking about Danhausen since Elimination Chamber and that wedding, and we not once thought about cursing the wedding. Oh We don't have the power of Danhausen in us. You're right.

SPEAKER_02

Only he can do it.

SPEAKER_01

If only we was big enough for Danhausen to have seen the troubles that we was having.

SPEAKER_02

Danhausen, if you're watching this, you're not. But if you're watching this, give us the powers to curse people.

SPEAKER_01

Please.

SPEAKER_02

Because we need it. We need to curse Heavy D.

SPEAKER_01

There's a lot of tricks out here, alright? And I ain't talking about Trick Williams.

SPEAKER_02

Lemon Peppa Stepas.

SPEAKER_01

They are.

SPEAKER_02

Alright, we're off track.

SPEAKER_01

Okay. Well honestly, that's enough of the Jade and Rhea match. I mean, hopefully Rhea wins. Hopefully Rhea wins. If you're gonna be able to do it, that's really all I got.

SPEAKER_02

If she don't we ride, that's about it.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. Um next, uh the undisputed WWE championship, Cody versus Orton.

SPEAKER_02

We've talked about that.

SPEAKER_01

We have. Uh yeah, we've spoken we've we've spoken to our opinions. I mean, I hope Randy gets the title. Yeah. If Cody retains, I mean, I won't bitch that much.

SPEAKER_02

Just won't make sense, really.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, that's that's that's about all that's that's all the complaining I do. Yeah. Um But yeah, we've done talk about that, so we'll go into the next. Uh honestly, I look forward to this one Lesnar versus Oba.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah. I think that's not one. Pretty sure.

SPEAKER_01

Probably Oba Opens. You think Brock's gonna be in Vegas all weekend? Hell no. He's doing that. He's probably gonna be first match like he was at Mania 35 against Rollins for the title.

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And 39. No, he was not two. In 39. Him and Omos, you remember that? WrestleMania 39.

SPEAKER_01

Did they wrestle each other? Yeah. See, 30. Let me think. 38 and 39 was was the was like year, it was two years I didn't get to watch Mania. 38. I was actually on my senior trip in Orlando. Oh, okay. Like the weekend or the week of uh mania. But um Yeah, I didn't get to see that match. Was it what was it good? No.

SPEAKER_02

Oh it was not. Well you didn't miss much.

SPEAKER_01

But I think this match is gonna be good. I really look I I look forward to it. I mean, the way they've been booking it, I I think Brock's going over. Yeah. Because I don't think he I don't he's not putting no one over until that Gunther match.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah.

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100%, I think. But the way he's been making Oba look, you know, on this build-up to it though, I think it's gonna be a kick-ass match.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, I don't know how he's gonna beat him.

SPEAKER_01

I don't know either. I think I think Brock wins, but I think so. And honestly, I I can see it just being I just see it being a good match. You know, most Brock matches is just he beats the hell out of them and then takes him to Suplex City three or four times and then gets a th and an F5 and then gets a three count.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

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You know, but with Oma, not Omas, Oba, you know, he's gonna have to fight.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah. So I or he just beats them like he did Kofi for the WWE championship. Just the F5 and they're done.

SPEAKER_01

Don't get my blood pressure up. That was awful. I mean, just don't even go there. That was Vince's era. Don't even get me started on that. We're in the Paulovek era. Damn, don't even get me started on that. I mean, we can't be satisfied for nothing. We really can't.

SPEAKER_02

That's how we are. Um, but I think Brock wins by some stipulation.

SPEAKER_01

I'd say Brock. I'd just say it's just gonna be I won't say a long battle.

SPEAKER_02

I don't see Brock putting on a long match, but I see Maybe he'll maybe Brock will stand out the ring for a little bit, like chicken out for a second.

SPEAKER_01

And then true. I I could just see it being a hard battle, and Brock's just gonna have to like probably do everything in his arsenal. Yeah. Minus the shooting star press. That'd be awesome.

SPEAKER_02

And then Brock, like and then Oba has his back turned and Brock tries to attack him, and then it don't work, and a bunch of stuff happens.

SPEAKER_01

I mean, it's the finish will be an F5. Yeah. I mean, I I I can tell you that much. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Next match.

SPEAKER_01

We got the women's intercontinental title, AJ Lee versus Becky. That's another one I look forward to.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

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I've that I've actually been paying attention to the build-up and stuff on Raw with that one. Um, that that build-up's actually pretty good. It is. And honestly, just because of the the storyline itself, I mean, because the storyline like the storyline of AJ and Becky ain't just AJ and Becky, you know? So I guess that's just what draws me into it already, because we've been invested already know into this for a year now.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah. Imagine we're okay.

SPEAKER_01

Who do you think who do you think wins?

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I I don't care, really.

SPEAKER_01

Me neither. I mean I got I wouldn't I mean I'd be satisfied with either. But I do I could see AJ or Becky winning it back because I don't I doubt AJ's gonna be doing a full-time schedule. Yeah, yeah. It'd be nice to see it. Or even even just a small full-time run, you know? So I mean if she keeps the title, I f then she'll she's probably gonna be on it on at least a small run. But if Becky, if Becky wins, then we ain't gonna see AJ for a while.

SPEAKER_02

No, I don't think so either. And then who would be Becky?

SPEAKER_01

Raquel.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah. Yeah. That's what I was thinking, but I didn't I don't see no story there.

SPEAKER_01

Maybe I don't either, but that's how every story starts. Yeah. There's nothing there. Yeah. Um maybe that's how it happens.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Viv wins the title. Becky wins the women's IC title. That leads to her and Raquel. JD wins the I wins the men's IC title.

SPEAKER_03

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_01

You know? I'll say that. Because I could see it. We've been going back to judgment day a lot this episode. We have. But it's good shit. Listen to us, guys. Book this shit. Book it. Please. We know what we're talking about. Buy the book. Yes, exactly. Shout out the shout out the casinas.

SPEAKER_02

Workershoe podcast. Uh they don't know us anymore.

SPEAKER_01

Nice to I I talk to AJ quite often on Facebook. Okay. Yeah, AJ's my dog. Um What was I going on about? Oh, I could see I could see the Judgment Day like getting getting gold back and thinking they're on top of the world, and then that's when it comes crashing. Yeah. I could see something like that happening.

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Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, that'd be cool.

SPEAKER_01

I I I I want to see the Judgment Day either come crashing or it be a very long-term group that just has members in and out. You know what I mean? Yeah, I get that. Kind of how it how it has been. Because I mean, if it ain't broke, don't fix it. It's worked for how long already? So I I would be Three, four years. I would be happy to see either it come crashing or they just keep doing that, you know, what they're doing.

SPEAKER_02

I think I think it needs to crash eventually.

SPEAKER_01

True. Or maybe kind of maybe maybe maybe they need to take a take a uh take a note out of the indie scene book. Like the Illuminati. I mean, Illuminati has been around for what, like 15 years, I think.

SPEAKER_02

I'd say so, yeah.

SPEAKER_01

But there but there's been like stints of the Illuminati. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

So I mean I a bunch of different members. Yeah. Oh, that'd be hot, actually.

SPEAKER_01

I mean, I could be really cool. But my you know, which I that's kind of what I'm saying with just in and people in and out. Just keep it continuous or just let it come crashing and then just let it rebrand later on.

SPEAKER_02

Like upcoming upcomers joining Judgment Day and getting big.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, you know, or maybe they it comes crashing later on, some rookies bring it back. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

That's what Edge did pretty much. Basically. Edge That's when I stopped watching wrestling, actually. Before Judgment Day formed.

SPEAKER_01

That yeah, well, see, that was that was of like that 38 and 30 mania 38 and 39 time. I I wasn't watching real much either. I was just keeping up online more than anything. I didn't even keep up online. I just see I've all I've always been the kind to at least keep up online. How the how do you think I made it through the Vince days?

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, I don't. I don't know how I I barely didn't. I was like 10.

SPEAKER_01

My God, dude. I was Some Day, there would be some times I'd I'd just get on 2K.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

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Rather than just watch watch the product. I just get on and just do what I wanted.

SPEAKER_02

I was like 10 years old and I I loved it, but I was it was I don't know, it was hard to watch. It was. It's just the m- I only watched the matches because I I didn't like listening to the promos. Because I wasn't.

SPEAKER_01

Well that's valid. You're a child. You was a child. I was a child. You didn't know what the hell he was talking about.

SPEAKER_02

I couldn't understand.

unknown

Let's see.

SPEAKER_01

We'll go on to the next match now. Uh we got Far 2 vs. McIntyre.

SPEAKER_02

Ooh. Unsanctioned match, right?

SPEAKER_01

I think so.

SPEAKER_02

They said it was unsanctioned.

SPEAKER_01

That'll be awesome. That would be a great match.

SPEAKER_02

That's gonna be awesome.

SPEAKER_01

And then it'll be bye-bye Drew for a while.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, bye-bye Drew. Is he on the film a movie, I think.

SPEAKER_01

What is it? What Highlander? Highlander, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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I couldn't think of it.

SPEAKER_01

What it was. I was about to say Zoolander.

SPEAKER_02

Zoolander, yeah.

SPEAKER_01

But uh no, I think that's gonna be a good match. I think so too. I mean that's two Fa Two and McIntyre are two I think I could say say Living Legends. If or on the path to be Living Legends.

SPEAKER_02

If you want to keep with the storyline, I think Fa 2 wins. Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Especially with Drew going away.

SPEAKER_02

Just because Drew will be complaining.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. So if you get Drew to win, then he goes, you know, filming, then where's Drew?

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, yeah. Don't make any sense.

SPEAKER_01

I say yeah. I say Fahu's. I say Fahu Fa2's going over for sure.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Let's see. Then we got Sammy Zayn versus Trick Williams for the United States title.

SPEAKER_02

Still wish it was Melo versus Trick. I know.

SPEAKER_01

Which is him being injured makes well did did he get injured after it was during the match. Oh. Well then hell, I wonder if they made the call. It might be work. It could be. But I don't I don't get the Or I don't know. I wonder if they made the call on the fly.

SPEAKER_02

I don't get how it could be work. It wouldn't make sense if it was a work.

SPEAKER_01

True. So I wonder if they had to make that call on the fly.

SPEAKER_02

Well, it's it's a shoe if he was supposed to win the title. But I haven't seen anything on him supposed to be winning the title, and I usually do see that if something like that happens.

SPEAKER_01

I guess it was planned anyways. Yeah. It was just freak accident happening. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Well, we'll find out eventually.

SPEAKER_01

But I still think it'll I mean I don't think it'll be a bad match. Nah. I mean, Sammy. Again, Sam Sammy is, you know, in the in the stale bucket too. But he's still, I mean, he's not a bad wrestler. Uh-uh. I mean, I still I've still always been a fan of him. I I hope I'd like to see Trick win it. I would I would too. I mean, I feel like he's it is early with him on the main roster, but I mean, hell, he's he's hot with the fans. I mean, he's over as hell, might as well put it on him.

SPEAKER_02

He's over with Booker TN.

SPEAKER_01

Oh god, yeah. And at his first mania.

unknown

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

It's wild.

SPEAKER_01

I mean, I if you if they're wanting this to be, you know, if they're really trying to push and book this mania to be huge, they they gotta pull the trigger. Yeah. I mean, they gotta keep pulling the trigger.

SPEAKER_02

God, they gotta keep. No, if Triple H don't want to get fired. Yeah. It's Triple H his ass. He's on he's in the hot seat right now. I really is.

SPEAKER_01

God. He's been in it with the fans.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, he really has. Unreal started making me liking it more, actually. Every time I watch Unreal, I like him.

SPEAKER_01

Who Triple H? Yeah. See, that's the thing. I've I've always like I'll I've always loved Paul Lavec, you know? Just don't like his decision to make sometimes. I agree. Um, let's see what we got next. Uh we got Alexa Bliss and Charlotte versus Bailey and Valkyrie. Oh my gosh, skip that match.

SPEAKER_02

That's awful.

SPEAKER_01

Okay. Uh well, we've done talking about Balor and Mysterio. Yeah. Um we've talked a little bit about the IC ladder match.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

You want to go more about more about that?

SPEAKER_02

Is there more to talk about?

SPEAKER_01

Good point. Yeah. I'm just excited to watch it more than that. Yeah, I'm actually excited. I mean, that's that's all it's gonna be. There's gonna be some crazy spots.

SPEAKER_02

I don't know if it's gonna be as good as that ladder match at 40.

SPEAKER_01

That tag match. The tag. That was a wild one.

SPEAKER_02

That was that was awesome.

SPEAKER_01

That was wild. Which I don't know. There is, like I said, there's Jravon. You know, you know he's already got some crazy ass spots. I can't honestly, I'm excited to see the entrance. I am too. Because he he came out saying how he saying he was nervous during the chamber. Yeah. I wonder how he's gonna feel the man yet. That's wild. Um so yeah, we've done talking about that. Uh then last on the list is Rollins versus Gunther.

SPEAKER_02

Uh I think the match is gonna be good. Oh yeah. I just didn't get the story.

SPEAKER_01

Well why? But do you but do you get it? I get it now.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah. I just didn't get it then. I I guess it's just to put Gunther in Mania.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, 'cause I mean he he had nothing going for that. Which I got like we was saying, the plans probably was Ray. Well, no, not Ray, uh Probably maybe like dragon or something. Yeah, you know, to lead to Ray, but then they had to, you know, take a detour. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

I wish we had Americano and mania.

SPEAKER_01

I know.

SPEAKER_02

But like Americano versus Americano.

SPEAKER_01

I agree, but I think I read something too, and I agree with it as well. I feel like that that should be done in Mexico.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah. At AAA?

SPEAKER_01

I feel like. Yeah. Okay, yeah. Like triple mania.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

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Because when is that? Do you know? Uh not right off, but it ain't like I got the internet right here in my hand.

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I don't think it's in April.

SPEAKER_01

No, I don't think so.

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But I I don't know.

SPEAKER_01

Let's see.

SPEAKER_02

I feel like it's like at the end of the year or something.

SPEAKER_01

I'm pretty sure they have multiple triple manias throughout the year.

SPEAKER_03

Oh, okay.

unknown

I don't know.

SPEAKER_01

Maybe I'm tripping. It seems like they already was there triple mania last night? Or on Saturday? Maybe. That's what it seems like on here. It may have been. This is an article posted on the 5th. Well, and you know what? We're just behind on things.

SPEAKER_02

We don't we don't know nothing about AAA.

SPEAKER_01

You know what? We'll get the Americanos at the next Triple Mania. Yeah. Don't know when it's gonna be. But they have about quite a handful of them throughout the year, I'm pretty sure.

SPEAKER_02

I think so too.

SPEAKER_01

We're gonna get it. Yeah. It's gonna come.

SPEAKER_02

It'll happen. Loser, loser gets unmasked.

SPEAKER_01

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Uh OG is gonna get unmasked.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, for sure.

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Yeah. It's gonna see Gable in a full beard and jacked.

SPEAKER_01

I just wonder what's gonna come after that.

SPEAKER_02

Single superstar?

SPEAKER_01

True.

SPEAKER_02

I don't think he'll go back to Academy.

SPEAKER_01

It's gonna no. It's honestly gonna suck seeing him. Like uh I'm happy to see, you know, American's gonna go on forever with with Kaiser. But it's it's gonna be bittersweet when when when Gable's revealed.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah. Because Ludwig said he was wanting to do it forever. Oh god, he has to.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. Or what if Americano turns into like LA Parka? Or LaParca.

SPEAKER_02

That can happen.

SPEAKER_01

Because there's been like a gazillion different people portray La Parka.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah. That'd be cool.

SPEAKER_01

Dude, we're booking like hell tonight.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah. Markin. Markhausens.

SPEAKER_01

You need to listen to us, guys. We know stuff around here. I mean, we can get the viewers in.

SPEAKER_02

You know, I've I've called John Cena's Hill Turn. I'm not shutting up about that, by the way. I'm going on about that forever. Till everybody dies. I'm gonna be 40 and I'm gonna say, do you remember that time I called John Cena's Hill turn on the workers shoot podcast?

SPEAKER_01

Actually, I think it was showing color then, but the the old days of show and color. Yeah. God, y'all people don't even know what we're talking about.

SPEAKER_02

No.

SPEAKER_01

They they didn't listen to the other color podcast, whatever it's called. No. No, some of them probably don't even know what show and color means. No. Uh next match. Oh, that's last of the list. That was the last? Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_02

Alright then.

Upcoming Shows HeroesCon AMW Innovate

SPEAKER_01

Um you wanna take her home?

SPEAKER_02

Yeah. Uh Wendy shows we got coming up next. Yeah, yeah, you're right.

SPEAKER_01

Uh we got coming up on April 10th. It's the Heroes and Con in Pikeville, Kentucky. There's tons of celebrities and wrestling uh stars of the past and present that's gonna be there for Meet and Greets and everything like that. And then on Friday night on April 10th, during the con, Appalachian Championship Wrestling is host is having a show there.

SPEAKER_02

That's about to be so awesome. I can't wait, but I can't go. Sandman's gonna be there. Is he really? I didn't see him on the card. Sandman is gonna be there. Like at the con or is he wrestling or both, I reckon. He's wrestling.

SPEAKER_01

I doubt he's gonna do like much wrestling. Yeah. But make an appearance. I just want to see the entrance and see someone get hit with a stick. Yeah. Oh yeah. If I'm close enough, get a drink of his beer.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, that sounds like C dub. That sounds like something C Dub would do.

SPEAKER_01

That's definitely something C dub would do. C Dub's a wild man. He's crazy. He is. I wonder what he's into.

SPEAKER_02

Nope. This one. I did this.

SPEAKER_01

I don't know how I did that. Um but then next, we then on April 11th, the next day, there is two shows going on. I'm sure there's tons more, but two that we know of. Um there is AMW uh Weekend of Champions Bloody Breathit.

SPEAKER_02

That's gonna be awesome.

SPEAKER_01

It is, I think it's gonna be a good show. Uh in at Breathett County High School, Jackson, Kentucky. Um, stacked card. You got Marty Clay versus uh Wes Barker in a steel cage for the AMW title. You got the six-man goal for gold ladder match. Um there is Stan Sierra versus a mystery opponent of Kyle's choosing for the new South Championship. Um trying to think more off the top of my head. They announced uh, you know, a few people is gonna be there. It's gonna be uh Zody and Will Dwillinger, I think is his name.

unknown

Don't know.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, his tag team partner. I know, yeah, I seen him today, yeah. I wonder I wonder It's something Dellinger.

SPEAKER_02

Cody Dillinger. Cody Dellinger, no, that's a baseball player.

SPEAKER_01

No, I think I'm pretty sure it's like Will Dillinger. Something Dellinger. And then there's also there's a new guy, upcoming guy from IMW that I reckon is gonna have an interview there.

SPEAKER_02

He's from Breathett County.

SPEAKER_01

Yes. Marty's replacement. Another Breathett County boy? Maybe. Who knows?

SPEAKER_02

Because is Wes gonna be him for that title?

SPEAKER_01

I I think so.

SPEAKER_02

I think so too. I think Wes, or I think Marty's gonna go to ID. He has to. I think he will.

SPEAKER_01

He has to. Or something. Maybe if it's ROH or something, yeah. But um I reckon that's all the good the good deeds on Bloody Breath. Oh, okay, okay. No, I ain't done yet. I thought you were done. No. I was about to say. And then on April 11th as well, on the same day, we have Innovate Wrestling, one final gift.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

In Kingsport, Tennessee, at NetPro Studios. Woo! At the beautiful Bobby Eaton Arena. Woo! Already a ton of matches announced, I think. We we went over them last week, I believe. Um biggest one of the biggest thing of the show, hence the name, one final gift uh is Jason Kincaid's last match at Innovate Wrestling against Andy Optimal, or my bad, Andy's floppy puss.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah. None of us have ever seen that dude wrestle before, I don't think.

SPEAKER_01

We've we've heard nothing but good about Kincaid. Yeah. But we have never seen him in action and just recently in the last year discovered him. Yeah. Shout out to faction for putting us on him. But uh boys. So excited to see this guy. We me me and uh your dad, we watched some footage, you know, some matches on him. Yeah. What everyone says it's right. Dude, it like I said, dude's a wizard.

SPEAKER_02

It's wild.

SPEAKER_01

He is. I can't wait. I'm so excited.

SPEAKER_02

If if I don't have a game or anything. I'm actually just not gonna go to the game if I have one.

SPEAKER_01

I think it's a good idea. Yeah. Screw it. Do you start? No. What are you doing? I don't even play. The no-brainer, man. But um, yeah, so look forward to the innovate show. Um, I'm trying to think, is there anything else? I believe that's all that's coming up in the in this coming week. I ain't got nothing. There ain't nothing else I know off the top of my head.

Final Plugs And Sign Off

SPEAKER_02

I don't think so either. Uh KCW, June 13th. Yes. Shockwave at the nest. And we'll get more into that whenever we know more information with the show. But Noah said it was great last week. Or this weekend, I guess. Last weekend. Yeah, last weekend. Said it was a great show. And I believe him. We're with KCW, we're with Innovate all the time, every day.

SPEAKER_01

Amen.

SPEAKER_02

Noah, you got anything?

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But it is always God wrestling's good.

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It's always good. Boys, don't be Mark Housens. Ring the bell. Get the cards, the drugs, from my generation take the floor.