WrestleMania Weekend Recap: What If Being Entertained Matters More Than Ratings?

We come in exhausted from a full WrestleMania weekend and give the real recap anyway, from the shortest matches to the biggest moments that actually hit. We compare night one and night two, call out what worked and what didn’t, and leave with one rule that saves wrestling for us: if we had fun, the score is secondary.
• weekend setup and watching everything back to back 
• seven minute opener thoughts and why pacing matters 
• unsanctioned match vs street fight logic and why labels break immersion 
• surprise returns and entrances that got the loudest reactions 
• Becky vs AJ reactions and what the result signals 
• Seth vs Gunther finish and protecting top stars 
• Liv vs Valkyrie title change plus interference and theme complaints 
• Cody vs Orton match praise and the Pat involvement 
• night one ratings debate and ditching the old turnbuckle scale 
• night two opener love and the emotion of a retirement moment 
• intercontinental ladder match highlights and who looked made 
• Sami vs Trick match reactions and the celebrity entrance miss 
• Demon Finn vs Dom street fight love and why the spectacle works 
• Jade vs Rhea reactions and the move naming debate 
• Danhausen segment appreciation and why it got over 
• Punk vs Roman main event breakdown and what it sets up next 
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Transcript

SPEAKER_04 0:16

Ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, children of all ages, the teams that brought you the show and color podcast and T4 Productions proudly brings to you the greatest wrestling podcast in the world.

SPEAKER_03 0:29

Claybo. Wes. No, no. What? The Work Our Shoe Podcast. And if you don't like that, we got two words for ya. WrestleMania.

SPEAKER_04 0:50

You gotta come through. That was good. You gotta come through. Settle metal. Oh. A little Spanish.

SPEAKER_01 0:57

Wes don't have anything. Acknowledge me.

SPEAKER_04 1:01

Happy WrestleMania Day. Acknowledge me was solid. Happy WrestleMania Day. WrestleMania Sunday. We're recording this Sunday night. You're watching this on Monday because I know you watch it on the first day it's out.

SPEAKER_01 1:15

We're really tired.

SPEAKER_04 1:16

Really, we're really tired. Long weekend of wrestling.

SPEAKER_01 1:20

We all look like CM Punk right now. Bags under our eyes.

SPEAKER_04 1:24

Everybody got bags under their eyes. All right, we're gonna we're gonna shoot straight into it. We had Friday night, we had an AMW show, uh Pirates Life. Um yeah, and then and then Saturday had the first day of Mania cooked all day, had had the had the show. Uh we throwing up Phil Factory.

SPEAKER_01 1:43

Some of us had some of us had baseball. Some of us had baseball baseball, actually.

SPEAKER_04 1:48

And that was just little kids.

SPEAKER_01 1:50

Well, yeah, big kids are a quitter. I didn't quit.

SPEAKER_04 1:55

And then and then of course we watched and of course we watched night two of Mania. Uh big big crowd, had a good crowd show out. Um pretty pretty good, pretty good WrestleMania. I'm pretty satisfied with WrestleMania as a whole.

SPEAKER_05 2:10

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_01 2:10

Me too. So I will say I think this one was better than last year's.

SPEAKER_04 2:17

Yeah, I buy that.

SPEAKER_01 2:18

Yes. Easily.

SPEAKER_04 2:20

I buy that.

SPEAKER_01 2:22

Yeah, easily. Especially night two, but I think it was.

Seven Minute Celebrity Tag Opener

SPEAKER_04 2:28

Okay, so let's get into it. Uh the mania card. You got the mania card. Yep. We'll do uh night one. Mania card, first match. Vision and I show speed versus big old tag match. Big old tag match. Yeah. Big old tag match. Uh big old tag match. No, you go first.

SPEAKER_00 2:54

Yeah. Seven minutes.

SPEAKER_04 2:57

Yeah. Seven minutes, yeah. Oh surprising. You forgot to mention Wayne was in the studio, too. Oh, yeah, Wayne was here. Yeah. Wayne's in the studio. Proud of you boys.

SPEAKER_01 3:12

Proud of you boys. Hey, listen, he did show up from night one. He was here. He did. He actually showed up. Yeah, he was here.

SPEAKER_04 3:20

So like we we enjoyed it. We had a good time watching watching night one. Uh how'd you feel about it, Noah? The seven minutes.

SPEAKER_00 3:29

To be honest, I blinked and the match was over. Me too, bro. Speed was jumping through a table on Logan. Yeah. The match happened quick. The spot was cool. Yeah, the spot was really cool. I mean, I guess I guess I ain't really got complaints. Just could have been longer.

SPEAKER_04 3:47

Yeah. And it was the ESPN pre-show, right? So yeah.

SPEAKER_01 3:51

It is the pre-show that for free first hour. Well, yeah, yeah. Um I think it was as good as it could be. I mean for seven minutes, yeah. I show speed. You gotta protect him as much as you can. And obviously, not saying that uh Jilly Rolls any better as a wrestler. He just has a whole lot more size on him than I show speed. I mean, I show speed is 120 pounds soak away compared to these guys. So, like, how much could you really do that's believable in the ring with him?

SPEAKER_02 4:31

Yeah, yeah, that's real.

SPEAKER_01 4:34

I'm not sh I'm not I I'm not crapping on him. I'm like, you know, good for him for doing what he did. But like, man, there there's only so much you can do, so much you can carry small.

unknown 4:49

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 4:49

Without him fully committing to wrestling. Yeah, without him being a fully committed wrestler.

SPEAKER_04 4:55

Yeah. Uh I do think I do think he did fine. And I do think the match would have been fine. It was seven minutes bell to bail, right? Not curtain to curtain, because their interests were longer than I think it was seven minutes bell to bail.

SPEAKER_00 5:10

Yeah, I I believe bell to bail.

SPEAKER_04 5:12

Yeah. Either way, either way, that's crazy, though, that like seven minutes for a six-man tag, you can't even get anybody in the ring and get their spots. So I don't I don't even know how that works. Do you like the match, Clay? I like the match, yeah. I just I agree with Noah. I think it could have been longer than it was. And what was the next match?

SPEAKER_01 5:34

I'll say this.

SPEAKER_04 5:35

Oh, go ahead.

SPEAKER_01 5:36

Well, before you go, I will say this. Robocop lasted longer than I shall speak. Robocoped in 1991.

SPEAKER_04 5:46

Yeah, Robocop coming out. I think to that match. That match was gonna be weird either way because the titles weren't on the line, even though it was the champs in the match. I do say too, also I like the Usos old, I like them wearing gear that looks like their old gear. That's kind of cool.

SPEAKER_00 6:07

Orange green, baby.

SPEAKER_04 6:08

Yeah, they look cool doing that. And I love Logan Paul. Just whatever I said it. Whatever. I love Logan. I think I think he's a good wrestler. I think I think he's a good wrestler. I can't help it.

SPEAKER_00 6:21

I've I've said it from the get-go. Like when he first came in, you know, I was just like, dude, Logan Paul, and then I see him in the ring, and I'm like, holy shit.

SPEAKER_03 6:30

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 6:34

What do you mark? What is that? I don't know what's going on. You flipping us off? What's happening?

SPEAKER_00 6:40

Why'd you do that? Pat.

SPEAKER_04 6:42

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 6:43

Oh like Logan Paul.

SPEAKER_04 6:45

What we call that in the business clay?

SPEAKER_03 6:47

Hate.

Unsanctioned Match And Stipulation Logic

SPEAKER_04 6:51

Yeah, the match was fine. Match was fine. Should have been longer than seven minutes. Obviously, a free match. Next card. Next match? Fatun McIntyre unsanctioned match. Fat you see him cry in the post show? Yeah. I didn't see him cry in that post. Well, he like he kind of cried. And he he he was like, after everything I've been through, yeah. To get me to this point. He's awesome in honor or something. You like the match, Wiz?

SPEAKER_01 7:19

I just said meh. Like that when like the crying thing and stuff like that, they're showing too much still. Like it's all about the stupid ass um Unreal. Gotta have the new season of Unreal? Because that's gonna be Yeah, that's Haley gonna be shown in Unreal because that's basically, you know, he broke character to go hug. Um it was Jimmy. It was Jimmy that he was hugging.

SPEAKER_04 7:45

I I think the new season of Unreal is gonna have a lot to do with Cody Randy.

SPEAKER_01 7:54

Yeah, which is crazy. Tomatonga.

SPEAKER_04 8:00

Yeah, you got all kinds of stuff. All kinds of stuff to do there. What'd you think about that match, Clay? Um I liked it. I just I don't know, I'm pretty iffy about it. I don't know. So you have no idea. No, I really don't. Noah, do you have an actual opinion on the match?

SPEAKER_00 8:22

I mean, I enjoyed it. I mean, it was it was fun because it was an unsanctioned match, I think.

SPEAKER_01 8:28

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 8:28

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 8:29

It was an unconscious match. What's the difference between a sanctioned match and a street fight and a hardcore match?

SPEAKER_04 8:34

Well, there's no such thing as a hardcore match.

SPEAKER_01 8:37

Okay, what's the difference between a street fight and an unsanctioned match?

SPEAKER_04 8:41

Um, street fight is still sanctioned.

SPEAKER_00 8:47

Unsanctioned is like cursive for street fighting.

SPEAKER_01 8:52

Good answer. Because we had what we had a street fight the first night, then I or was it an unsanctioned match the first night, the second match was a street fight.

SPEAKER_05 9:02

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 9:03

Wait, what'd you do, Clay? What was that?

SPEAKER_03 9:07

Flip it.

SPEAKER_04 9:09

Reverse run it back, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 9:12

Oh, yeah. So really what's the difference? What's the difference in them?

SPEAKER_04 9:19

One's sanctioned and one's not. Unsanctioned.

SPEAKER_01 9:24

Alright, I'm going to bed.

SPEAKER_04 9:26

I'm not, I'm not film, I'm not. That's literally the difference. Is one of them, they're like WWE is responsible for the results, and in one they're not. Which doesn't make any sense because they still ring the bell. An unsanctioned match, they shouldn't even ring the bell. It should just be you guys just go out there and fight in the ring.

SPEAKER_01 9:41

Whoever falls, falls.

SPEAKER_04 9:43

That was the weirdest unsanctioned match because it ended in the ring, right?

SPEAKER_01 9:47

Yeah. Well, that's like we we talked about this a while back about like street fights. Street fights used to not start in a ring. No, they they would start in the back, yeah. Yeah, street fights either start in the back or it was an actual like, oh, they were in a setting, like they were in a bar or something.

SPEAKER_04 10:05

Undertaker Mankind. Was that Survivor Series? Undertaker Mankind Boiler Room?

SPEAKER_01 10:12

Yeah. Well, that was a boiler room match, which didn't make sense either. Yes. Hiding in a boiler room and jumping out at each other.

SPEAKER_04 10:17

It's a terrible match. There's no room for cameramen.

SPEAKER_01 10:20

It's just tight and state. It was just tight and state. It really is a title hide and punch. Hide and punch and run away.

SPEAKER_04 10:27

Fa too, Fa2, you can you can like we've always said strapper rocket to him. Because it doesn't matter. There's there's a lot of mouths to feed though right now, and especially the young mouths to feed when Fa2 is going to be in the Fa2's gonna be in the world title picture in the future. And I mean obviously, you know, more names to come. Oba, Javon, and a ton of people are gonna be in the world title picture in the future. And I don't know how many mouths titles are. There's only a couple belts. Yeah, but that match, we'll get to that. Like I enjoyed that match. Y'all got anything else to say about that match?

SPEAKER_01 11:04

No. I think it was I mean, I it I think Jacob Hall too proves still that he's like out to being in shape.

SPEAKER_04 11:14

Yeah, I don't think it was the best match of the night, but I think it was up there. I think it was good.

SPEAKER_01 11:19

Oh yeah. Enjoyable match. Kind of over the gimmick where McIntyre grabs his brother or his wife's phone and somebody's phone tweets.

SPEAKER_05 11:30

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 11:31

You know, it's it's like a lot of people love it.

SPEAKER_01 11:34

It gets it gets follows. He's done it, he's done it three times, and each time he's lost.

SPEAKER_04 11:40

Oh, yeah, that's true. Are we doing turnbuckle writings like we used to on our old podcast? Not a chance. We're not writing stuff anymore. Not a chance. We're not gonna write, we'll write the whole show.

SPEAKER_01 11:51

Just because there's a picture of Wayne there doesn't.

SPEAKER_04 11:53

You missed Klay's joke last night. You missed Klay's turnbuckle joke. It was like classic callback. What did he ask? I don't what did Wayne ask? If you're gonna he said I'll jump off the turnbuckle on you or something, and Clay was like, the I said, which one are you gonna jump off of? Yeah, which one are you gonna jump off of, Wayne? One, two, three, four.

SPEAKER_01 12:14

Yes, solid.

SPEAKER_04 12:16

You guys don't know. Go back and listen to like the first 10 episodes of the show.

SPEAKER_01 12:19

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 12:20

They're they're much they're much they're much more basic, much more, much more turnbuckle basic. The other show, yeah. It's not this show, actually.

SPEAKER_01 12:29

A lot more chicken noises, too.

SPEAKER_04 12:31

I have a solid question. Work or shoot the show and color podcast. It was a work, I think. Actually, complete work.

SPEAKER_01 12:45

It's unreal. Oh, it is unreal.

Eight Woman Tag And Surprise Returns

SPEAKER_04 12:47

You're right. Next match. Um eight woman tag match.

SPEAKER_01 12:59

That was an adult. No, no. Paige, page was the best part about it.

SPEAKER_04 13:03

Well, I was just trying to replicate the pop that Nia Jackson Lash Legend got. Yeah. They were talking about you made it in wrestling. If you get a pop or you get booze, you made it in wrestling.

SPEAKER_05 13:21

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 13:21

You're not doing very well when people are just watching you walk in and not doing anything.

SPEAKER_01 13:28

Like I think Paige got the biggest pop of the night.

SPEAKER_04 13:32

She did, but but Lash Legend and Nye were wearing demolition gear, and it was supposed to be the dedication to demolition because their gear rocked, and they should have got a pop for their gear. And there was probably 10 people in the crowd who recognized they were wearing demolition gear and was like, ah, I see a thing that said it was more an ad for the laser masks, like the skin masks, than it was than it was demolition. Yeah, we're all on the same end of it.

SPEAKER_01 13:58

I think they if they put it on someone else, they would have got a better pop than they did.

SPEAKER_04 14:02

Maybe, but it don't fit anybody else because like it needed to be the big it needed to be the big people.

SPEAKER_01 14:07

Yeah. Maybe if they put color into it, if they put the red and silver on it, red black and silver is coming out and all white. I thought it was awesome.

SPEAKER_04 14:14

I thought it was sick. Personally, like I would have I was would have I would have been one of the ten in the crowd that was that's killer if they did that. And kudos to Naya. Naya's like cut down white, and she looks good. And she looks good in her gear, and she finally looks good for once in her career. She's in the right shape to be wrestling, and she's got a partner. Lash Legends nuts.

SPEAKER_01 14:36

Lash Legend's crazy good. I'm gonna be I'm gonna be completely honest with you guys.

SPEAKER_04 14:41

Which is opposed to other times when you're not?

SPEAKER_01 14:44

Yeah. Yeah, when I'm in. No, I ain't gonna go there. Be honest, honestly. I didn't honest, honestly. I didn't realize it was demolition gear when they came out. Yeah. I just thought, oh, they were trying to look hard and they just look like Jason Voorhees trippers.

SPEAKER_04 15:07

Yeah, I can see that.

SPEAKER_00 15:08

Bloody Jason's.

SPEAKER_04 15:09

Yeah, slutty Jason.

SPEAKER_00 15:11

I could see that. I mean, I I'm just that that's I can definitely see it.

SPEAKER_04 15:18

Paige comeback was surprising.

SPEAKER_00 15:21

I I think go ahead. Sorry. I really thought I had to figure it out with Paige, and I was I was completely wrong. I thought it was going to deal with AJ and Becky. Yeah. So hard.

SPEAKER_04 15:37

I can't I I know the signing. Her her signing yesterday, her signing Saturday had to be her signing Friday. I remember Friday's when she signed, had to be incorrect.

SPEAKER_05 15:46

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 15:47

Because there's no way she signed and then was there. Of course, I guess Punk signed right before he started, he says. Right before he walked out, he signed his contract, what he says.

SPEAKER_01 15:56

But I don't know. He's old. Paige's been training for a while, too.

SPEAKER_02 16:02

Yeah, she has. Well, she wrestles Indy.

SPEAKER_01 16:05

No. No, she once she quit AEW, she was gone for a while, and then she started that podcast. And then randomly about a month ago, she started posting videos of her training, but no, but she wouldn't tell anybody what she was training for. She just like still got it. It was it was more like of her actually being physical than she was in AEW. Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_04 16:32

Yeah, I think that was kind of lame. And it's I mean, I think Paige was cool, but I think the the results of the match are kind of lame. The finish. Just we did that last year. Yeah. The the tag that tag division sucks anyway. Like it doesn't make any sense anyway. So putting putting it on somebody new is crazy. And also, what happens when Bella's foot gets better? Is it their titles and Paige is not involved?

SPEAKER_01 16:55

So it's no, I think so. Another thing is another thing I'd like to point out is why in the world do you keep letting Alex come out giving homage to Bray Wyatt, but she acts like the Wyatt 6 doesn't exist.

SPEAKER_04 17:16

Yeah, that's a thing. Well, to be fair, the Wyatt Six didn't exist at WrestleMania, so but you get what I'm saying, though. Like Yeah, I do. I agree.

SPEAKER_01 17:26

She's always like putting Bray over doing something with the fiend and everything she does. But yeah.

SPEAKER_04 17:34

The butterfly and the moth was pretty cool. It was. It was pretty sick.

SPEAKER_01 17:37

But yeah, it's the you know, why are why is she doing this? But she doesn't acknowledge the white six.

SPEAKER_04 17:42

I'll take that two-pack.

SPEAKER_01 17:43

Or the white six don't acknowledge.

SPEAKER_04 17:45

I'll take that two-pack for 50 bucks. Thanks, Target. While we're on that topic. Well, that's that's one of them. We gotta remember that. That's we're gonna go over dad's WrestleMania. We can go over them as we go. That's one of them, right? Yeah. You want to just read them? I got seven. We'll go over them as we go. You should look at them and remember which ones it is, and when we get to them, we'll Okay. Is that okay? Yeah. Is that what you want to do? I'm trying to remember which ones. You didn't write them down? No. I just put the number. You just put the number? You didn't write them down. That's funny. I know Demon Finn and Dom.

SPEAKER_01 18:23

How you gonna go over them? You just have numbers.

SPEAKER_04 18:24

That's funny. I was wondering what that look was about that he was giving me when I said it, and it it was the fact that he doesn't actually know which ones it is. When we get to him, we'll remember them. No, I do remember. I know one was Drew. One was Damon Finn. Yeah, Drew needs gear. One was Drew needs match figure.

unknown 18:42

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 18:43

He doesn't know. Anyway, anyway. He said, All right, bluff called. And now we got Alexa and Charlotte. Alexa and Charlotte, two pack. All right, bluff called. That match was fine. It was not long either, right? It was like eight and a half minutes or something for a six-man tag.

SPEAKER_01 19:00

I think the longest match was the Cody's. Everything else was really short within under 10 minutes.

SPEAKER_04 19:07

Good match, though. I mean, I think I think we were in agreement the match wasn't terrible. It could have been a lot worse. Yeah. Compared, you know, saying who was in it, it could have been a lot worse. But it wasn't intermission. Yeah. I wasn't near the TV during that match. Downstairs. Yeah, it wasn't near the TV. Next match.

SPEAKER_01 19:22

Yeah, I was on a baseball field watching it.

Becky Vs AJ And Short Match Trend

SPEAKER_04 19:24

Yeah. AJ Lee versus Becky Wynch. AJ Lee the tag team or AJ Lee The w the girl.

unknown 19:32

Oh.

SPEAKER_04 19:35

And new.

SPEAKER_01 19:36

Pants suit, AJ Lee.

SPEAKER_04 19:38

And new. I knew.

SPEAKER_01 19:41

I did too.

SPEAKER_04 19:42

There's no way AJ Lee was gonna go. This this match did one thing for me. This match told me the result of night two. Oh punk. Yeah. This match told me the result of night two. Of the main event night two.

SPEAKER_01 19:57

Spoilers.

SPEAKER_04 19:58

Yeah. Spoilers. Looking ahead. Yeah. That made the most sense to me for her to take that title back. That made that made the most sense. And and let AJ, because AJ's a part-timer.

SPEAKER_01 20:12

It was good to see Becky be the ruthless Becky. Yeah. Not, you know, run her mouth and hide. It was like she was punching herself in the face, ready to go the whole time. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 20:27

Becky puts on a show. The match was fine. For me, that match was fine. It was just okay. I agree. I don't I my take is I don't really like seeing AJ wrestle. Yeah. Like watching her skip. Uh uh, yeah. And I like her. I do like her mother.

SPEAKER_01 20:48

They pulled the uh the John Cena with her.

SPEAKER_04 20:51

Yeah, she had a bunch of little kids come out and skip.

SPEAKER_01 20:54

All the little kids coming out.

SPEAKER_04 20:55

Dan House and kind of did that in day two. That was so funny. Didn't he? Yeah. He did. Yeah, I seen I seen that, and all the kids were skipping, and then none of them knew how to skip, actually. Yeah. Yeah. And uh Becky's interest was good too. Becky's interest is always good, I think. Right.

SPEAKER_01 21:20

Her interest was good. Right. That new thing music.

SPEAKER_04 21:22

Yeah, that new thing music's awesome. This match was good too, but it was short, wasn't it? Under under 12. I'd say it was one of the longer matches. Under 10? I didn't know if it was under 10.

SPEAKER_00 21:34

I'm pretty I'm pretty sure.

SPEAKER_04 21:36

I mean, it was one of the longer matches. That's saying something.

unknown 21:40

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 21:41

It was a longer match. Becky and Jessica Carr was pretty cool, too.

SPEAKER_02 21:46

Oh, yeah. That they're building something there.

unknown 21:49

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 21:49

That's long, bro. They're building something there.

SPEAKER_02 21:51

Put that mask on, Jess. Put that mask on. Well she needed to do. She already put that mask on.

SPEAKER_04 21:59

Match was good. I'm fine with that match. Like I said, it was short and it was it it was we knew what it was. We knew what the results were going to kind of be. I feel like not one was more predictable than not two.

unknown 22:08

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 22:09

He gave it two out of four turnbuckles.

Seth Vs Gunther And Interference Math

SPEAKER_04 22:11

Two out of four turnbuckles. Next match Seth Rollins versus Gunther. Look, man, with the return of Braunbreaker.

SPEAKER_01 22:20

We all knew how it matters. I will say it is no matter what Seth always wins when it comes to walkout gear and just the theme.

SPEAKER_04 22:36

Yeah, he's he does always show up. Yeah, the smoking jacket was awesome, and the the black contacts that he took out in like two seconds was pretty cool. Grabbed him and pulled him out. I'm sure.

SPEAKER_00 22:49

Really wish he would have wrestled with him. Probably was for safety reasons, but it would have been so kick-ass if he was.

SPEAKER_01 22:54

Well, I mean, yeah, Demon Finn tried to keep him in. He ended up having one knocked out.

SPEAKER_04 23:01

I don't think that happened. You think that happened, but I'm pretty sure he was wearing one contact the whole show. We can't. Because we don't know how that works. We don't know where to watch it again at, actually.

unknown 23:16

No.

SPEAKER_04 23:17

I guess you can't probably. I don't know. I don't know how to. We had to go through three. We had to go through three. I'll fig we're gonna land this for the final thoughts. We'll uh wait for the final thoughts on this. Uh this match, though, Clay? Um, I think it was really not really good, but I think it's pretty good. I think it was one of the better matches of not one. It wasn't very good, and it was one of the better matches of night one. I mean, that makes sense.

SPEAKER_01 23:41

Yeah, I mean he's he's just honestly being honest. It makes sense. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 23:46

It was um my second favorite match of the night. First was Randy, Cody, but we're not there yet. But I think the match was good overall. And Seth bailed on that spear by Braun, by the way. Yeah, Seth bailed hard on the spear. I get it. I would have bailed. He was doing probably 30 miles an hour, like downhill coming at you. I I would move. I think he would kill you.

SPEAKER_00 24:15

Did you see the clip that it showed like pretty much from Seth's perspective? Braun was like choking it down next to me. Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_04 24:25

Oh yeah, I did see that later. Oh my god. That'd be that'd be so frightening, so terrifying. Wait on him to get there.

SPEAKER_00 24:34

Got it. That's gotta be the longest. I don't know how many seconds, but that's gotta be the longest of them seconds ever.

SPEAKER_04 24:41

Has to be.

SPEAKER_00 24:41

What did you think about it, Wiz?

SPEAKER_01 24:43

Breakers probably brought breakers probably think about the time. Don't tear your balls, don't tear your balls, don't tear your balls.

SPEAKER_02 24:48

Yeah. Protect your protect your honey. Protect your honey.

SPEAKER_01 24:54

I mean, it would the the match was good. It was a good match. Storyline-wise, I'm a sticker for storylines. I feel like it was a filler, but it's okay.

SPEAKER_04 25:04

We knew it wasn't, we knew it didn't have no sense. Yeah, it didn't make any sense.

SPEAKER_01 25:13

Don't make sense now with the Yomi if ever.

SPEAKER_04 25:17

Well, I just don't know where we're taking Gunther now.

SPEAKER_00 25:21

Well, because see the favor that I thought is out that out the window.

SPEAKER_04 25:24

Out the window. Because of the results not two.

SPEAKER_01 25:28

It's back in Minnesota.

SPEAKER_04 25:31

It still could happen. Let's wait till we get there. But the it it happened kind of how we expected the choke out after the after the breaker stuff. Yeah. I think it's what we expected. That's and and I don't have any problem with it. That's fine. The match was good.

SPEAKER_01 25:48

The ending needed to be that way. Yeah. We we talked about this before. You can't let Gunther win by himself on a match like that.

SPEAKER_04 25:57

And Gunther powerbombed Seth super early and Seth kicked out.

SPEAKER_01 26:02

So Yeah, because like if you let Gunther just completely beat Seth, you can't let you can't let Seth beat Gunther because it's Gunther. You can't let Gunther beat Seth by himself because it shows Seth's weak.

SPEAKER_04 26:15

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 26:16

So you had to have someone interfere to help him.

SPEAKER_04 26:19

We all agree. Was this the match they said nobody's ever kicked out of a move? Yeah, the um was it the powerball? No, that wasn't the match because it was no, I I don't think that was it. I don't think so either, but I think it was Lib's match. Yeah, I don't I don't know. I don't know. I know they say that somewhere. Yeah, this match was fine. I was I was good with this match. I was good with the results. It's kind of what I expected. I love Gunther. I'm I'm I'm a snob for Gunther. I think he's fantastic. I think he's I think him and MJF are the only real heels in wrestling. I I know what Noah feels about him.

SPEAKER_01 26:59

It is real. So you think he's gonna get squads like MJF?

SPEAKER_00 27:07

Dusty, Dusty's right.

SPEAKER_04 27:10

To be fair, Gunther did drop the title of J. Oso, which would be like dropping the title to Darby Allen.

SPEAKER_01 27:17

So I seen something that is a throwback that you'll appreciate, D. So MJF, when he was fighting Darby, he had baby blue tights on. Um and it's a throwback that said it was an homage to uh when Ric Flair dropped the title for the first time to Sting.

SPEAKER_03 27:41

Oh, that's cool.

SPEAKER_04 27:43

MJF is a Rick Flair. Yeah, historian.

SPEAKER_01 27:46

Rick Flair had the same, yeah. Ric Flair had the same tight on when he dropped the title to Sting for the first time.

SPEAKER_04 27:52

That checks out.

SPEAKER_01 27:53

Sting won his first ever world title.

SPEAKER_04 27:55

That checks out. MJF's like Ric Flair, actually. So that checks out.

SPEAKER_01 27:59

Yeah. And Darby is, you know, pretty much.

SPEAKER_04 28:03

It's funny that it was WrestleMania weekend, and we talked as much about Darby Allen and MJF this week as we did anything Mani involved. Because I was like, I just cannot, because I couldn't believe it that you dropped the title to him on Dynamite.

SPEAKER_01 28:14

Right. When I tell you, they had to do something to get people talking. They had to do something. It works. They're like, hey, it's WrestleMania.

Liv Vs Valkyrie Title Talk

SPEAKER_04 28:21

Here we are talking about AEW during Mani week. Let's cut it. And we're done with that. The final match. The final match. Nope. One more match. Okay, two more. Nope. Nope. One more match. Liv Morgan and Stephanie Vakir. Oh, yeah. Nobody's ever kicked out of Stephanie Vakir's move. And no. Right? I don't know. And new. Nobody knows. I'm not surprised about this either. Steph, Steph to me is like punk. She doesn't need a title, I don't think. I think she's really, really over. La Primeira can just be over anytime she wants to. And Liv needs Liv needs it to be chased.

SPEAKER_01 29:00

Now, do you think we're trying to find a reason to get her back in triple A.

SPEAKER_04 29:04

That's what I was going to say. Do you think she goes to triple A and does a bunch of work down there?

SPEAKER_01 29:09

No. I don't think that she's going to do a bunch of work. But I think she's going to be featured.

SPEAKER_04 29:17

I think she's stupid good. I think she'll be in as many many matches as she can be. I think they're going to put her in everything. I think she's.

SPEAKER_01 29:23

I wasn't saying that. I'm just saying just like, you know, when like midday goes down there for a pay-per-view. Like she'll be in a pay-per-view or two.

SPEAKER_04 29:31

I could see that. I mean, definitely be doing that, but she could have done that with the title, though. Like saying that they had to take the title off over to do that. Dom was there with the Intercontinental title all the time.

SPEAKER_01 29:41

Like every week. He's the king of the luchadors, bro.

SPEAKER_04 29:46

She's she's a La Primera, though.

SPEAKER_01 29:50

It's not king of the Lutadors.

SPEAKER_04 29:52

Well, that's true. I I didn't find the results of this match. I liked the interference spots too. They were they were like they were good spots, just not normal spots. So I I really I really kind of enjoyed that.

SPEAKER_01 30:07

We did, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 30:10

I did not. Oh my. It was bad. I did not. I did not. I'm a Raquel guy, so I'm a live guy. Yeah. Live free, diehard. You hear the cat? Yeah. What'd you think of the smash, Noah?

SPEAKER_00 30:25

I think.

SPEAKER_04 30:27

Not you, Wes.

SPEAKER_00 30:28

Again, I mean not many complaints really with it. Again, it was just short.

SPEAKER_04 30:34

I really wanted Liv to do the devil's kiss. Whatever.

SPEAKER_00 30:39

Yeah, that would be nice. That would have been awesome.

SPEAKER_04 30:43

What'd you think, Wes?

SPEAKER_01 30:48

Um it was short. I agree with that. I know we all have kind of have the same takes right now. We're all tired, but we are. Man. I love Liv. I think Liv's always gonna be one that's gonna be talked about from here on out. So she deserves everything that she gets. Yeah, she's legend. She'll be she'll be Hall of Famer. But I still stick to I think this is to drop the title so they can they they can move her around.

SPEAKER_04 31:23

Isn't that the title?

SPEAKER_01 31:24

Wherever she needs to be.

unknown 31:27

No.

SPEAKER_04 31:27

It's intercontinental. AXT. You don't know what's going on.

unknown 31:31

Okay.

SPEAKER_04 31:32

Yeah, the yeah, she can she's gonna do whatever, too. And it don't matter. Like either of those girls can do whatever.

unknown 31:39

And it's not.

SPEAKER_04 31:44

Where's who's gonna I I don't know what feud what they're looking at there because I really thought Roxanne or Raquel. Now here's what I think Raquel and Roxanne tried to help her in the match, and she couldn't get the win with their help, and then she ended up winning it by herself later in that match. Right. So maybe it'll be kind of a you didn't help me, I can do it on my own thing, like because you didn't help me anyway. Yeah. So maybe that kind of gets her turning, and so you start turning her kind of baby. That way, when Dom does turn on her, inevitably, that or you know, whatever happens there, Roxanne turns on her, whoever. Because Roxanne's a better heel than Liv is.

SPEAKER_00 32:24

Very.

SPEAKER_04 32:25

And and I mean that could happen easily that Liv be a baby.

SPEAKER_01 32:30

I think it's I think it they they put the put the seeds in already for Raquel to turn.

SPEAKER_04 32:37

Yeah, oh for Raquel to turn for sure.

SPEAKER_01 32:39

On on leave.

SPEAKER_04 32:40

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 32:40

Turn on leave.

SPEAKER_04 32:42

Yeah, I agree with that too. You want to hear my take on Raquel? Do it. I think I think slam a make our title, make our title on her. On Raquel? Yeah. I think she just challenged for a big title though, recently. Yeah. Yeah, that match was good. I enjoyed that match. Um, new champ, good match, great interference. I hate Liv's new theme song. Oh yeah, oh yeah, we could talk about that. That sucks. She lip synced the whole time.

SPEAKER_01 33:12

Yeah, but you know what? It gets a younger generation like anymore. Sure. It does.

Cody Vs Orton Plus Pat Spot

SPEAKER_04 33:21

Okay. Main event. Yep, main event time. Cody. Uh Cody Orton, Cody Rhodes versus Randy Orton. He collapsed. I don't know what this had. I said Cody Orton. It fell through. Yo, I enjoyed this match. I don't have any problem with this match at all. I thought it was good. I did.

SPEAKER_00 33:48

I did too.

SPEAKER_04 33:49

I like Pat. I don't mind the Pat thing. I didn't mat I didn't mind either of the Pat spots. I thought the jelly roll pat spot was good. I really enjoyed that. I thought the finish was fine. I thought that's where it probably needed to be. Uh I don't think I don't think you need to put that title on Randy. I don't think there's a reason to.

SPEAKER_01 34:08

So my take is I absolutely love the jelly roll spot just because after that spot, they zoomed in on Cody's face, and Cody legit was like laughing. Yeah. Not at anything. It wasn't like a laugh, like he was laughing, like he was having fun.

SPEAKER_05 34:25

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 34:26

Like he thought, you know, it was like an enjoyment smile and laugh.

SPEAKER_04 34:30

You know who was not having a good time?

unknown 34:33

Pat.

SPEAKER_04 34:34

Cody Rhodes after the punk kick.

unknown 34:36

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 34:37

Yeah. God, yeah. Can we talk about no matter what if you're a Cody fan or not, the boy will always do the work and take the punishment. Like he legit let him connect with his face.

SPEAKER_04 34:53

He kicked the shit out of Cody Russ. Yeah, he did. I don't know how it didn't actually. Whatever, man. We're all marks. It's fine. We're all marks, it's fine, but he legit kicked that dude. And and I know Cody probably was backstage saying, You gotta kick me, bro. You gotta kick me.

SPEAKER_00 35:13

Cody's photo ops photo ops for today at the WWE world was canceled. Oh, really? His eye was floated shut. Yeah, his eye is like this. That's awesome.

SPEAKER_01 35:25

It's not awesome, but it's cool.

SPEAKER_04 35:30

Yeah, it was like a legit cut man was working on his eye.

SPEAKER_01 35:34

Yeah. Um I think it was a great match. I love the end. I love the ending. Like, of course, yeah, Cody won, but it was the fact that Randy turned on Pat, which we kind of knew was happening.

SPEAKER_05 35:47

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 35:47

But we've been waiting for we've been waiting since Randy got back to do the punk kick. And I think that punk kick solidified him being back to 100% Viper Randy. Like, you can't trust him at all. No one can be around him, no one is safe.

SPEAKER_04 36:04

Yeah, I agree. And that's that's kind of what they were talking about was the fact that he RKO'd Pat for just no reason. Whatever, it was that's very Randy. And then the punk kick being so real after we've been waiting on it this long. Like, it was kind of just like what Kevin Owens did with the package pile driver. We were teased the package pile driver so much, and and we were, you know, and was banned, banned, and you know, tried he tried to do it a couple times and they stopped him. Then when he finally did it and he landed it perfect, we were like, oh my god. Like, and coincidentally, both happened to Cody Rhodes.

SPEAKER_05 36:36

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 36:37

But again, like West said, he takes the punishment though.

SPEAKER_01 36:44

He does. Yeah, and I don't think we're ever gonna get a 100% 09 Randy, but we're gonna get as close as we can to that now with him finally doing the punk kick.

SPEAKER_04 36:55

Uh hand up if the teacher would like to call on me. I don't think Cody's ever gonna turn heel.

SPEAKER_02 37:04

Really?

SPEAKER_04 37:05

I do not think they're gonna turn him. I do not think they're going to. If they didn't turn him this year, I do not think it's going to happen. When is it going to happen? Why would it happen? There's no reason to do it. Just keep him, keep him where he's at. They didn't turn Cena, dude. We act like the fans are turning on him. We act like they listen to the fans. They don't listen to the fans. It's all work. They don't listen to the fans. That's it's they're not gonna turn him. No, they didn't. They did. No, they didn't.

SPEAKER_01 37:31

We didn't. The boy came out in skeletor gear and was still baby. Yeah. That was he's not gonna turn. Like he came out in skeletor gear and was a baby gear.

SPEAKER_04 37:44

If he wasn't a bad guy this weekend, he's not going to be a bad guy. Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 37:48

Yeah. But he was booed the whole match and he was acknowledging the booze.

SPEAKER_04 37:54

Cena was booed for 10 years. Cena was booed for 10 years as a baby face.

SPEAKER_00 38:00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 38:02

Yes. Yes, he said, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 38:05

All right. But listen, but but Cena, but like Cena was just like the goody-go guy. Like Cena, he acknowledged the booze, but like Cody was there's something there. It might not be soon, but it is it's happening.

SPEAKER_04 38:19

Uh I've already introduced myself. Would you like to introduce yourself?

SPEAKER_00 38:26

Yeah, I'm Mark.

SPEAKER_04 38:28

Okay. All right. Look, we all want it to happen, okay? But uh, but we it's you know, do we want it to happen doesn't mean it's gonna happen. I love this match personally. I thought it was good. It touched my heart, it pulled at my heart strings. It like it touched me deep down inside where wrestling fans need to be touched. That's it, it touched me there. I enjoyed it. Clay, did you enjoy this match? I enjoyed this match a lot.

SPEAKER_01 38:56

You know what I enjoyed? That for the first time since 2016, we actually saw Stardust gear.

SPEAKER_04 39:05

That that was awesome. That was cool. It was very see, I thought it was so hear me marking out. I thought it was uh like Justice League or like Iron Man, everything set up. Then I was like, no, wait, it's the seven and he's Homelander.

SPEAKER_01 39:25

That's great, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 39:28

You know how Homelander is?

unknown 39:30

No.

SPEAKER_04 39:30

I don't think so.

unknown 39:31

Oh really?

SPEAKER_01 39:32

No, you don't.

SPEAKER_04 39:33

You will when Cody turns heel and becomes Homelander, Cody.

SPEAKER_03 39:36

You just said you're gonna turn heel.

SPEAKER_04 39:39

I know, I know, I'm sorry. I know, I'm sorry, I can't help it. I want it to happen.

SPEAKER_01 39:44

Hey, no time, no take, no take backs. Homelander's just a bad guy to some people.

Enjoyment Over Fantasy Booking Debates

SPEAKER_04 39:49

You're right, you're right, so is Thanos. Okay.

SPEAKER_01 39:54

So is Trump.

SPEAKER_04 39:56

As a as a whole, day one, I will say I enjoyed it. Probably more than most people did, just because I've tried to have a different mentality about wrestling now that if I enjoy something, I don't care if it's good or bad. Yeah. If I have a good time watching it, why do I care if it's good or bad? I love botchamania. It's one of my most favorite things to watch. I love it. Amen. It's just it's literally bad wrestling the whole time. There's some indie promotions that I only go to because I might see some terrible botches. You know the ones I'm talking about.

SPEAKER_05 40:46

Yeah. God's fired, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 40:49

I mean, you know, that's why I go to some of them. My cat's super into something, sorry. So that's that's really where I was at with it. Like, does it matter? If I'm enjoying it, it doesn't matter anyway. And I and my my final thoughts on that one is if you enjoyed it, then it doesn't matter if it's a two or a ten. Yeah. And also, I think people fall into this lull of why they didn't like an event is because what what didn't happen is it's a show for everybody, not a show for you. Right? And I think people fall into this people fall into this category where they're fantasy booking an event, and then when the event doesn't happen like they wanted it to, then you think it's bad. It doesn't make it bad just because it didn't happen how you wanted it to happen.

SPEAKER_05 41:47

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 41:49

Question. Who took Dusty in the other room and gave them a heart to heart about wrestling?

SPEAKER_04 41:56

I don't know, man. Maybe I seen a picture, maybe it's Sean Cruise taking a picture of Dane Malenko. Invite Dusty. Shout out Sean. Shout out the Malenko.

SPEAKER_00 42:10

Yeah, shout out Dane for the favorite.

SPEAKER_04 42:12

Iceman's my favorite, so maybe that's what it was. Also, Dane and Javon. Sean and Javon. I think they've wrestled. Yeah, Sean and Javon worked together. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Not two. Woo! No, let's do a night one. Like over. Oh, overall? Yeah. Out of ten? Yeah. Uh-huh. Do you want to do turnbuckles? Yeah, let's do the three turnbuckles. So three turnbuckles? Yeah. Let's go back to the show and color. Uh, I think I think it's I think it's uh one and a half turnbuckles. Really? I thought you'd do higher than that. Well, our the grading scale to three is like, I mean, like the only having three points just guarantee to grade something's tough. Yeah, you're right. If I can have a two, that's almost a three. One one point seven. I don't like the turnbuckles anymore. God. Yeah, you realize it's a bad rating system. We found this out 25 episodes ago when that was a bad rating system. That's why we stopped rating stuff. We just scrapped our whole rating system and stopped rating it. All right, do it out of 10 now. Okay. I think it was a seven. I think it was a six, six and a half, six two, six point two. That's what I was gonna say. I was gonna say six two five. Six point two five. Oh I was gonna say six. I said six, I said six point two five. Noah.

SPEAKER_05 43:43

Um I give it a five. That's fair.

SPEAKER_01 43:50

Two turn vocals.

SPEAKER_04 43:52

That's good. No, that's good. That's like a it's a seven. Oh, yeah. Yeah, that's right. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 44:02

Yeah. Five or more, raise add one more.

Night One Ratings And Wrap

SPEAKER_04 44:05

Add one more.

SPEAKER_00 44:07

I give her a ten.

SPEAKER_04 44:08

I got her gas in it. Okay. Nine two. Oba Femi versus Brock Lesnar.

unknown 44:16

Wow.

SPEAKER_00 44:17

Oh.

unknown 44:18

Oh. Oh.

Night Two Opener Oba Vs Brock

SPEAKER_00 44:19

Listen, I just want to say this. As Ubo's making his entrance, I start doing that around the house. Everybody did. Madison was and Madison was like, What are you doing? I said, look at the TV. And she just starts laughing. And Tanya's like, What is it? She's like, he's just strutting around the house like this guy.

SPEAKER_04 44:38

You know what's funny is I think when he got three quarters of the way down the ramp, they were like. And so he started like doing it faster.

SPEAKER_01 44:47

He's kind of doing like an AJ skip, but yeah, he was trying to get down there.

SPEAKER_04 44:51

He was trying to get down there quicker. Yeah, that was that I think that was um that was awesome. For me personally, that match was fantastic. It was the exact opener we needed. The Oba looked uh Brock made Obau look better than he's made anybody look ever, maybe.

SPEAKER_01 45:13

In the history.

SPEAKER_04 45:14

Yeah. Yeah. And Obaz Obaz fantastic, bro. He's fantastic.

SPEAKER_01 45:19

He's awesome.

SPEAKER_04 45:20

What'd you think, Wes?

SPEAKER_01 45:23

That was everything I wanted it to be. I truly thought though that that match, the ending was gonna be different, just because I was like, hey, at that point, we were still thinking that Gunther was gonna retire, Brock.

SPEAKER_04 45:38

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 45:39

So I was my my thinking was hey, this this match is not actually ever going to start, and it's just gonna be them beating each other down and then just security coming out because they can't get the match started because they won't quit fighting and breaking everything.

SPEAKER_05 45:53

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 45:54

But I thought it was very cool that you know Brock put him over like he did. Like you've never seen Brock put anybody over. Yeah. Especially that way. Like it's like if you're gonna beat Brock, like it's a 30-minute match of hell with Brock being as stiff as he can because he's mad that he's dropping something to you.

SPEAKER_05 46:15

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 46:18

So I agree. It was very, very cool.

SPEAKER_05 46:21

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 46:22

And also, good matches.

SPEAKER_00 46:24

We've probably never seen short match. Short match, but good match.

SPEAKER_04 46:29

But you can't expect those dudes to go 15 rounds.

unknown 46:31

No.

SPEAKER_00 46:32

That's honestly the only short match that I'm not mad about because for one, I mean, I just that's what I expected from Brock. But two, I honestly I had I had the complete opposite expectations, like we all thought. I knew he was gonna make Oba look great, but I thought there was no way he was putting him over. Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 46:57

Months ago, I had said, or weeks ago, I had said I thought Brock would retire at Mania, and then somebody convinced me that he was a SummerSlam guy. Was that US? Is it convinced me he was a SummerSlam guy and he was gonna retire at SummerSlam?

SPEAKER_01 47:12

I'd say it was a SummerSlam guy.

SPEAKER_04 47:13

But I bought that I bought that. You convinced me of that. And I'm not saying you were wrong.

SPEAKER_00 47:19

I'm just I was completely sold on him retiring at Mania, the favor being going through fight some.

SPEAKER_04 47:26

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 47:28

You know, it made perfect sense.

SPEAKER_04 47:29

Yep. Yeah, I don't know. But I was happy with the match. I was happy with the results. I was happy with the finish. Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_01 47:37

I mean I feel like Clay right now, yawning.

SPEAKER_04 47:42

Oh yeah. Dying on it. But I was happy with all that. I thought it was beautiful. I'm I'm Brock putting his boots in the ring, honest emotions from Michael and Wade. You could see real emotions from them.

SPEAKER_01 47:57

Everybody's probably mad about Hain Sox being on.

SPEAKER_04 48:00

Hain socks. People are so pissed, I would say, about the Hain Sox advertisement.

SPEAKER_00 48:06

Oh when he started to cry, like you know, crying, I thought the dude was laughing at first. And I thought he was like about to be like psych.

SPEAKER_02 48:13

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 48:13

Like I ain't never seen a cry look like a laugh.

SPEAKER_01 48:16

I I don't yeah, I think it was more scarier to see him cry than any honest, honestly.

SPEAKER_04 48:23

And Paul telling him he loved him. It was awesome.

SPEAKER_02 48:26

Yeah.

Intercontinental Ladder Match Chaos

SPEAKER_04 48:28

But yeah, that was really good. Happy with that match. What was the second match? Um the latter match for the Air Continental. Oh, yeah. Let's go. Bro. Match awesome. It was awesome. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 48:42

Yeah, yeah. It rocked.

SPEAKER_04 48:43

Like I said, the Oba and Brock was going to set the expectation for the rest of the night. And it and it rubbed, and it was. It was a banger. And it was the result we wanted. And it put everybody in the right mood. Everybody was pumped. Brock's retirement got everybody emotional. Everything was good to go. Pinta's entrance got everybody pumped.

SPEAKER_01 49:01

Um Ray's entrance got everybody.

SPEAKER_04 49:07

Boys, I knew it.

SPEAKER_01 49:08

It's the last time we'll ever see Ray.

SPEAKER_04 49:09

It's the last time we'll ever see Ray do that. When I seen the hole in the floor, I was like, that has to be, that has to be for Ray, dude. Who else would it be for? Jamon or no, baby. Booyaka, Booyaka, sick gear. And he put on a show. The matches uh Ray Mysterio versus Pinta versus JD McDonough versus Javon Evans versus Rusev. And Dragon Lee. And Dragon Lee. Not the not Ray Phoenix. Oh not Ray Phoenix, yeah. Or yeah, okay.

SPEAKER_01 49:39

Dragon Lee is still a clash. I don't I don't see it with Dragon Lee. I know they're like Ray's his mentor. They're pushing him as like the next Ray, but bro. Boy's not over.

SPEAKER_04 49:53

Nobody Ray.

SPEAKER_01 49:54

So and he's just not getting over like they're wanting him to.

SPEAKER_04 49:59

Yeah. Me and Dad said Rusev was in there to catch the lochadors. Rusev's in there just to catch dudes doing flips. That's why he was in there.

SPEAKER_00 50:08

And that's exactly what he did.

SPEAKER_04 50:09

I love Rusev. He took some spots. There was a time where in that match where I marked out and thought he might win. Yeah. Because they've been wanting me too. Because they've been wanting to bring back Rusev Day. And I thought a great way to do it would just put a title on him and let him come out to Rusev Day the next time he comes out. He'd be over. I don't think people were booing when he was climbing the ladder, but I don't think there would have been a boo if he would have actually won it. Like I think people would have been people would have been fine with it. But if Javon won it, they would have gone crazy. Yeah, place would have gone nuts if Javon won.

SPEAKER_00 50:40

I really thought Javon was going to win.

SPEAKER_01 50:43

I thought he was for a minute. I thought Javon was going to win too. Well, I would like to see him happen and in match. I think that's who he's going to drop it to.

SPEAKER_04 50:52

We all knew. We all knew Pinto wasn't going to lose. Really deep down inside. Pinto wasn't going to drop that. He's too good. I just hate for somebody to retain in a ladder match. Yeah. He's awesome all the time, though. He is. Yeah, it was beautiful. JD was awesome too. Yeah, JD rocked. We thought JD could win to set up him and Balor.

SPEAKER_00 51:16

Listen, JD is just a crash cast dummy when it comes to matches anymore. That's what he does.

SPEAKER_01 51:23

Because he's got to because if they said he could survive what he survived, they can put it to anything.

SPEAKER_04 51:30

Yeah, that's real iron lung. What's that next match, Clay? Sami Zayn versus Trick Williams and Newt. You guys want to talk about that ladder match more? I'm sorry. No, the spots, the Canadian the Mexican destroyer on the ladder was gross. Roosevelt probably put the wrong ladder up there.

SPEAKER_00 51:49

I don't want to say I love the spot with the West Coast pop on the roof through the ladder. That was awesome. Yeah, yeah. That was awesome.

SPEAKER_04 51:56

That was very cool.

SPEAKER_01 51:58

Right. Oh, Mysterio almost knocked himself out.

Sami Vs Trick And Entrance Complaints

SPEAKER_04 52:02

Oh yeah, hit his face. Yeah. Well you got what's the next match? Sami Zayn versus Trick Williams. And new. And new. Nobody got more order than Trick. No. Nobody got more order than Trick.

SPEAKER_01 52:20

I mean, it I did love the fact that Sami Zayn did a halua kicked two trick right in front of Trick's parents, and Trick's parents just like stood there like stone and never reacted.

SPEAKER_04 52:33

Yeah, didn't do anything. Boy, we lost Noah.

SPEAKER_01 52:37

They didn't know the assignment. Noah died.

SPEAKER_04 52:42

Wow. I guess Noah's just deleted.

SPEAKER_01 52:44

Somewhere. So no, Triple H right now is screaming like, turn the camera back on.

SPEAKER_04 52:50

Got the camera on. Well camera two. Camera two. Noah's Noah's gone. It's okay. He's probably coming back.

SPEAKER_01 52:58

So he'll be back.

SPEAKER_04 53:01

Yeah, he'll be he'll be back for sure. So the match. Um sorry I lost my train of thought because I was thinking about Noah coming back. Because I was getting ready to ask Noah about the train. And uh the yeah, hey, welcome back.

SPEAKER_00 53:25

I don't know what happened, but uh it's okay.

SPEAKER_04 53:28

Internet happens. Internet happens.

SPEAKER_01 53:31

I think your internet's going down a little bit, Bubby.

SPEAKER_04 53:33

It's okay. We're still talking about we're we're this conversation is as long as Trick Williams trained on his jacket.

SPEAKER_01 53:41

Yeah. I did like the joke that I sent Dwight after that.

SPEAKER_04 53:45

It was a very funny joke. It was very funny. You got it.

SPEAKER_01 53:48

Can't say it on here. No, it was very funny.

SPEAKER_04 53:51

It was very funny, but we thought Trick was gonna be worn out before he got to the ring because that thing had to weigh 200 pounds.

SPEAKER_01 53:56

Had to. Yeah, it did. It had to.

SPEAKER_04 53:58

He was just dragging it with him everywhere.

SPEAKER_01 54:00

I like how you kept looking back. He was he was looking back because he's like, do I have to keep walking with it?

SPEAKER_04 54:06

Sami Zayn comes out too.

SPEAKER_00 54:08

I was waiting for a malfunction.

SPEAKER_04 54:09

Yeah. Yeah, something had to. I thought he was gonna get snagged somewhere.

SPEAKER_00 54:16

I thought that. Like it was like I didn't know if it was like an automatic hit rolling it out, so it just kind of gets jammed up, drunking back. Yeah, the y'all guys y'all guys okay?

SPEAKER_04 54:31

Yeah, everybody's everybody's good. But yeah, the Sammy coming out, like no no like high fives and like the running, like him running around and doing all the normal stuff. That made me love Sammy. Yeah, and just coming to the ring and being mad, mad as hell, low blows and all kinds of all kinds of dirty stuff. That's I like to see Sammy there a little bit, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 55:01

Listen, that apron brain buster he hit too was nice. Oh yeah, it was awesome.

SPEAKER_04 55:07

Yeah, the apron brain buster was good. There was there was a bunch of stuff that was really good in that match. Um that was one of my one of my more favorite matches of the night, actually, just because it was just because Trick is Trick is good and Sammy knows how to sell for Trick too. Poor Miller. So what's your thoughts on do you want little Yachty out of there? Yes. Noah, you want him out of there?

SPEAKER_00 55:34

Do what?

SPEAKER_04 55:34

You want Lil Yachty out of there?

SPEAKER_00 55:39

He's not yet. I mean, I really don't know what he's in there for. He just said what? I agree.

SPEAKER_04 55:44

I just don't know what he's in there for.

SPEAKER_01 55:46

He walked out and everybody was like not even caring that he was speaking.

SPEAKER_04 55:51

He was doing the Booker T thing. Yeah. It was kind of annoying. Him doing it. Him doing it was annoying. I think he made his entrance worse. I think so too. His entrance made his entrance way worse.

SPEAKER_01 56:01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 56:02

Sammy, you same he had all-time gear on too. It was awesome.

SPEAKER_01 56:05

I will say this. I think I mean, I know y'all like Trick Williams. I like Trick Williams, but I think he had the worst entrance of the night.

SPEAKER_04 56:13

Because of Yachty.

SPEAKER_01 56:16

Yeah, I agree.

SPEAKER_04 56:16

I don't disagree. Oh, yeah. He himself had so much swag, though, but it but I don't disagree.

SPEAKER_01 56:22

Well, that it took it away with Yachty.

SPEAKER_04 56:25

And the the finish was good with with Trick and like uh Sammy ended up get taking it from Yachty a little cheat spot.

SPEAKER_01 56:35

Yeah.

Demon Finn Vs Dom Street Fight

SPEAKER_04 56:36

But it was it was really nice, though. The match was really good. I thought Trick put on a show. There were some false finishes. I thought maybe Sammy was gonna win. Yeah. I thought Sammy was gonna win the match anyway, but yeah, it was a good match. It is nice. So next one. Demon Finn Balor versus Dominic Mysterio, street fight.

SPEAKER_01 56:57

Music rocks, dude. Um music's so good. His paint job on his back where the demon holding his little dom.

SPEAKER_04 57:08

Demon holding little dom. Hey, this is on that list, baby. We getting this fig.

SPEAKER_01 57:12

Yeah. I just I love Demon Finn, but sometimes when he's like on all four snarling or running around, I just see Golem from War of the Rings.

SPEAKER_04 57:24

Yeah, but I think that's just a preference thing for you because Bray White, I only seen I only seen the scary movie Exorcist joke whenever he would do the crab walk.

SPEAKER_01 57:36

Yeah. So yeah, no, I get it. I get it. Um but all in all, like it was a good match. Um actually kind of turned the page a little bit and was a little bit more ruthless than sneaky.

SPEAKER_04 57:55

Yeah, it felt that way too. That he's become well, it feels like he is becoming dirty Dom, though, like really, really dirty.

SPEAKER_01 58:02

Yeah. Not not Eddie Guerrero's son, but actually dirty Dom.

SPEAKER_04 58:08

Yeah. I hope we get that feud. I'm ready for that feud, him and him and Ray. Oh, oh yeah. I'm happy Demon Finn won. I'm really, I'm really happy to see that. And I really thought the coup de gras threw the. Huh?

SPEAKER_01 58:22

Did Demon Finn win? I don't remember. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 58:24

Yeah, Demon Finn won. It's because and that's how you know it's a good match, right? Because the end result didn't matter as much. Because Demon Finn doing the coup de gras through a table. That was awesome. Yeah. It was so pretty, too. It was perfect.

SPEAKER_01 58:37

He nobody does it like him. And then he just rolled out he then he just rolled out of the ring and ran up the ramp.

SPEAKER_04 58:42

Yeah, and I know. Like, why? What are you doing?

SPEAKER_01 58:45

Dan's tele, just rolling out of the ring and he just awesome.

SPEAKER_00 58:49

Rewind back to the entrance. Uh, when Finn was making his making his entrance, uh, the girls they've never heard of didn't know who heard of Demon, you know.

SPEAKER_05 59:00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 59:01

And so Lauren actually had it on in her room because she was just wanting to watch the Rhea match. And I hear from her room, she goes, It's kind of scary. I go in there, I go in there, and Madison, they know you know the judgment day because they uh Rhea and Dom and all them. And so they saw they saw Dom make his entrance. And as Finn's making his entrance, Madison goes, Oh, Dom's cooked, and I about fell to the I agree.

SPEAKER_04 59:32

Dom was cooked. Dom also looked big and strong in this match, by the way. Everybody did. Everybody was in mania shape. Yeah, everybody was in mania shape. That's what we were talking about. The the main event here, Punk and Roman looked incredible. Both of them did. But yeah, Dom and Finn both looked. Of course, we never see Finn Finn's body, I assume he has abs. I mean, not Finn, Dom. We haven't, have we? No, he don't he don't show his belly. Yeah. I didn't even think about that. He didn't he definitely didn't used to, but he might now. Mm-hmm. But either way, this match was this match was what I wanted. I was happy with this match. I was good with the false finishes. They got me a couple times. They did got me too. And Finn, I think Finn, I think Dem Finn is amazing all the time. He was doing sling blades from like eight feet away. Yeah. Like jumping and doing sling blades and catching them, which was which was insane. Do you love this match? I love this match. I love Demon Finn. I love Dom. I love I really like Judgment Day a lot. Yeah, I know that. I know that about you. Did you like that Demon Finn paint, Noah? I didn't get to talk to you about it.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:42

Oh god, yeah, dude.

SPEAKER_04 1:00:43

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:45

I loved everything about it.

SPEAKER_04 1:00:47

I thought it was good. I thought the entrance was awesome too. I still wish they wouldn't have spoiled Demon Finn for so. That's the only problem with this match is them spoiling the all-time entrance match. The the luchador parade was awesome. No, Danhausen was all-time entrance match. Well, and well, this was a good entrance match, though. These two together.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:06

That that uh when he came out with like the Aztec throne.

SPEAKER_04 1:01:11

Yeah, the luchador parade on the Aztec throne, it was awesome. And then and then Demon Finn. Only thing would have made the Demon Finn better is if it would have been dark out. It wasn't dark yet in Vegas.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:22

I think it would have been better if they just never said it was Demon Finn and then he just showed up as Demon Finn.

Jade Vs Rhea And Move Discourse

SPEAKER_04 1:01:27

That would have been incredible if they would have never said it was Demon Finn. That would have been the best thing. It would have been awesome. But they had to sell tickets. So they had to say he was coming. Next match. Jade Cargill versus Rare Ripley.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:40

And no.

SPEAKER_04 1:01:43

Next match?

SPEAKER_01 1:01:43

I like this match.

SPEAKER_04 1:01:44

I'm just kidding. I know. I know you do. It's fine. Only bad part about the match, I think, is when EO was up on the apron and Jade like almost forgot to kick her. I love EO. She she she she her showing up was awesome. And it took her forever to get down the ring. She needed a spot though. She needed a spot at Mania.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:07

Yeah. Very cool. I think Jade proved a lot of people wrong because I think Jade's been training a lot more than y'all think.

SPEAKER_04 1:02:16

She did look better. She did look a little bit better. She did. I still agree with Dad.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:21

Clay's never gonna give a woman any chance.

SPEAKER_04 1:02:28

You got Ka. You got Shadana. He just don't like Jade. I'm with him.

SPEAKER_05 1:02:33

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:35

If we say if literally, I could say probably any any girl wrestling, he'd be like, yeah, she's a little bit okay. She's okay.

SPEAKER_04 1:02:42

Say Liv there. Say Liv. Say Liv.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:47

Liv. She's great.

SPEAKER_04 1:02:53

I hate you.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:55

She's great, not for the reasons we're talking about.

SPEAKER_04 1:02:57

Rhea re-reversing the move twice was that was surprising to me. The second time they got me, I thought she was gonna land. I think the finish was really good. Yeah, finish the ride. The slide through into the riptide? Yes. Slide through into the riptide was awesome.

SPEAKER_05 1:03:11

That was nice.

SPEAKER_04 1:03:12

Like the white gear Rhea, we're getting that fig.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:16

Yes, that was great gear.

SPEAKER_04 1:03:18

White gear Rhea is awesome.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:21

Um she also came out kind of like um paid homage to like her old hairstyle. She had half a year clipped, so she didn't see it looked like it was old style.

SPEAKER_04 1:03:33

Well, what we doing with B Fab and Michin? What we doing?

SPEAKER_01 1:03:39

I think they're they're some kind of well, her new move is the sandstorm, and they were dressed up like they were Egyptian and like you know when you have a new move and the first time you do it, they kick out of it.

SPEAKER_04 1:03:53

Not fantastic for that move. Yeah. Usually beat somebody the first time you do something. It was the same move, she's caught it something different. Oh, really? Right? I don't know. It's the one-winged angel for sure.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:06

It's the one-winged angel. Um I missed that.

SPEAKER_04 1:04:09

It's Omega's move.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:11

Yeah, she it's Kenny Omega's move that they just renamed it the Sandstorm.

SPEAKER_00 1:04:15

Yeah, see, Chase texted me and was like, so is she using the one-winged angel? And I was like, when did she do that?

SPEAKER_04 1:04:21

Yeah. She she did in the middle of my eye. And then Kayla kicked out of it.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:26

Like it they had to say it because it didn't make sense for those two to come out looking like extras from the mummy. Unless there's layers.

SPEAKER_04 1:04:35

Yeah, right. It's gonna be something like the Santa, the stands. Yeah, you're right. There that move though, it feels like they stick it to AEW, are they sticking it to Kenny Omega and AEW by her kicking out of it? Maybe I'm thinking.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:52

They did it again with Paige when Paige did her interview. She was sticking it to AEW.

SPEAKER_04 1:04:56

Yeah. They'd be doing that. I love this match, though. Uh I mean, I think uh it was better than I expected it to be. It was better than I expected it to be. Rhea, I love Rhea, so we all love Rhea. She deserves that title. Enjoyed that match. Yeah, let her hold it for a while. Yeah. It's fine. She wrestles. Let her wrestle, let her hold it for a while and wrestle. Yeah. I'm sure it's gonna set up a few with her and EO. Because she'll give Eo a shot just for them being friends. She's gonna give Eo a shot. And then stuff's gonna happen and they're not gonna be maintained. Probably. Yeah. That's usually how it turns out. Next match. Main event. The main event of the evening. Chick magnet punk versus the LTC. Roman Reigns.

Danhausen Segment Before The Main

SPEAKER_01 1:05:41

So first and foremost. Yeah, you go off. Phil won that entrance. Dude. Between it coming out with the AFI song. I don't like I don't think D or Clay knew how significant it was. You get you guys didn't, did you?

SPEAKER_05 1:06:02

I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:03

When I first started hearing when I started first started hitting hearing the beat, I was like, no, they're not doing it. And then it started going into the song. I was like, holy shit.

SPEAKER_04 1:06:13

Yeah, you had a kid in your arms and you almost dropped him.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:16

Yeah, I had a couple of clubs. Yeah. Yeah, that was a dull black and white jacket. Yeah, so like all that. That was also them sticking it to uh to AEW too. Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:06:31

They be doing that, like I said. They do their best to do that.

SPEAKER_00 1:06:37

Yeah, but I think that that was perfect. And it was that was funny weird too, because like I was laying there watching it, and the drums to the intro of the song started beating, and like I was my hands were going to the beat, and I was like, I know this. And then it clicked, and I was like, oh shit. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:06:55

We we we forgot something. Dan Houseon happened before this. Oh yeah, I was I meant to mention that. It was in my brain before I even. The Miz. The Miz and and Cena came out to announce the attendance. The Miz shows up to just bullshit Cena through it. The Miz and uh Kit and Kit Wilson show up. I'm glad he got his WrestleMania spot actually. Yeah, and then he said he wants his WrestleMania spot. Dan Housen's music plays.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:22

Dan Housen drives out with his Dan Housing Little People. Coffin Mobile.

SPEAKER_04 1:07:27

Yeah, and Dan Housing Little People.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:29

Can we?

SPEAKER_04 1:07:29

I think we can say midgets. Yeah. They said it on the show. We can say it if they can say it.

unknown 1:07:34

I have a cat on my foot.

SPEAKER_00 1:07:35

That's nice. And then midget housens?

unknown 1:07:37

Yes.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:37

Midget housing's.

unknown 1:07:39

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:39

And then and then Kit said they were toxic and choked one, so then he said you were cursed. That's kind of funny. They punched him in the balls. Yeah, he got ball punched.

SPEAKER_04 1:07:49

I thought one of them was Hornswoggle, if you want to be honest. You that's why do you think that? One of them that you've seen you thought was Hornswoggle? Or is Hornswoggle the only micro wrestler you actually have? Right. That's why you thought one was Hornswoggle. That's offensive, I think. I think it is actually.

SPEAKER_00 1:08:07

That just sounds prejudiced, really.

SPEAKER_03 1:08:11

It's fine.

SPEAKER_04 1:08:15

Yeah, that listen, Dan Housing. I you can't you can do no wrong for me with Dan Housing. I'm I'm a Dan Housing mark. No. I'm good with it. He's awesome. I love everything he did.

SPEAKER_01 1:08:25

He actually made John, he actually made Johnson to break. He made Johnson a break.

SPEAKER_04 1:08:28

He had a house, he had a blimphousing.

SPEAKER_01 1:08:30

WrestleMania Housing.

SPEAKER_04 1:08:32

Yeah. WrestleMania Housing, Blimphousing.

Punk Vs Roman Main Event Praise

SPEAKER_01 1:08:34

WrestleMania Housing. Five Knuckle Shuffle Housing.

SPEAKER_04 1:08:39

Yeah, he did a five-knuckle shuffle with the claw. Like the poked him in the eye. God, it was awesome. That was great. Anyway, uh Punk Roman. Great match.

SPEAKER_01 1:08:55

I think it was awesome. I think it was awesome. Yeah, no one's ever gonna put on a show like that.

SPEAKER_04 1:09:00

I think it was all-time fucking match. Really. I think it was all-time. I think we're gonna talk about that match for years. I think that match was awesome. I think it everything I was seeing online. Yeah, everything I see online was like really it just redeemed not one. Punk punk busted up in the hard way. Yes. Um, well, he busted up in the hard way first and then he blighted. Yeah. Like the chairs busted him up and I don't know if he blighted at all. I don't know if he busted the hard way and then he didn't. I watched I watched him. Yeah, I really don't know. Oh, okay. I watched him put it in.

SPEAKER_01 1:09:29

I think you boot. So I thought he just hit himself.

SPEAKER_04 1:09:33

Either way, who cares? He bled a lot.

SPEAKER_01 1:09:36

He bled a lot. Yes. It was good.

SPEAKER_04 1:09:40

And Roman didn't bleed, so Roman looked strong, right?

SPEAKER_01 1:09:43

And punk cheating.

SPEAKER_04 1:09:45

Punk cheating to win and didn't get the win. That was such a beautiful spot. It was. It was so gorgeous. The tape on the chest, the ref picking it up, throwing it outside the ring when he wasn't looking good. The low blow was like quick and efficient. And then he turned it into a GT. And straight into the GTS.

SPEAKER_00 1:10:04

Into an in yes, dude.

SPEAKER_04 1:10:07

Oh, Roman Roman did a move I've not seen him do. I'm not maybe I'm not a Roman expert, but I've never seen the Superman clothesline before.

SPEAKER_01 1:10:14

I ain't either. I'm not sure. It was amazing.

SPEAKER_00 1:10:16

You've never dude, he's done that his whole career. You're talking about the one where he like basically he's in the air as 50 off the roads.

SPEAKER_02 1:10:23

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:10:25

Does the clothesline? Yeah. Yeah, dude. He's done that his whole career.

SPEAKER_04 1:10:27

Well, just because I've missed it. We've never saw it.

SPEAKER_00 1:10:30

Everybody's missed it amazing. I don't think he does it a whole lot.

SPEAKER_04 1:10:36

Maybe he's just getting insane hot lately because he's getting crazy hot on jump man. Like he's getting crazy hot lately. These dudes were in insane shape. Both of them dehydrated as hell. Yeah. You see, you can see you can see both their abs. You can tell they were both flexed out. Um I thought they both looked awesome. I don't think anybody looked old. I think Punk Punk sells so good throughout that match. And Roman Roman just Roman just puts on a show for everybody. I'm I'm so glad.

SPEAKER_01 1:11:08

Roman is full, baby.

SPEAKER_04 1:11:11

Yeah. Roman is just oh yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:11:16

After the end of the the match, him going up to his family and his 72 kids.

SPEAKER_04 1:11:22

It's all about the legacy, baby. He's got the white and gold gloves. The white and gold gloves. The white and gold gloves were awesome. White and gold gloves. I love this match. And now we got back our original champion, our tribal chief, the Roman Roman Reigns. And we have Cody as our other champion. So we're just going back to We're good with it. Everything.

SPEAKER_01 1:11:50

They're going to raise.

SPEAKER_04 1:11:52

We're good with it. The company's best when Roman has the title.

SPEAKER_01 1:11:55

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:11:56

And let's just say leave it on him for a little while. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:11:59

I will say this though. When Oba finally does get the main big title, he will be Roman's record.

SPEAKER_04 1:12:09

He called out Roman on the post show.

SPEAKER_01 1:12:13

Did he?

SPEAKER_04 1:12:13

Yeah, he said he said Oba did, yeah. Yeah. They were like, what's your plans for the future? And he was like, I'm coming for that tribal chief or whatever. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:12:21

I do want to say it's going to be a while.

SPEAKER_04 1:12:23

I do want to say Rhino was here earlier. Shout out Rhino. He was saying he wants Roman to hold that title till Saudi in 43. So Saudi Rock. So it can be. Rock and Roman. Rock and Roman. What were you going to say, Noah? Because Saudi pays a lot. Um Rock and Roman. Rock and Roman, yeah. Rock, rock. Rock. R O C K Dwayne Johnson. Final boss.

SPEAKER_00 1:12:54

I forgot what I was going to say, but Chase. Chase was texting me and he said, Where are we going to go from this? I said, I don't know. He said, So help me God if this leads to Sammy versus Reigns at Saudi Mania. And I said, how would that happen? He said, who else is going to win the who else is going to win the Rumble for it?

SPEAKER_04 1:13:13

Yeah, I don't know. I I just don't feel like I don't feel like that's going to be Sammy. Sammy Roman doesn't draw, I don't think.

SPEAKER_00 1:13:20

No, not at all. God no. I mean, I get that he was just speaking of we wouldn't be surprised. Yeah. There's a lot. I'm not mad Roman won, but I just, where are we going to go now?

SPEAKER_04 1:13:35

I mean, Gunther. You could you could fight him with Gunther again and let Gunther try to win it again. I mean, like, I mean, he him feuding with Gunther would be fine. That instills him as a baby face if he's facing Gunther. I mean, I don't know how you get there, but who cares?

SPEAKER_01 1:13:52

You know, another thing I noticed too was this is the first match I think Roman's done where he hasn't had anyone coming and help him.

Where WWE Goes After The Win

SPEAKER_04 1:13:59

Yeah, I think that was a big thing. I think that mattered. I think that mattered. Uh final thoughts on mania. Wait, I do have to do it. I have a worker shoot. Okay. Worker shoot live and loud meter. Work. Ain't nothing shoot about that meter. That meter fake as hell.

SPEAKER_01 1:14:19

For two of the members of this podcast to work for a company that's mainly audio. Yeah, yeah. That whole thing is bullshit.

SPEAKER_04 1:14:29

They turn the volume up on the show on the show. Like, I'm well, you got why don't you just make it that all the time?

SPEAKER_01 1:14:37

And then when they're like, when they would tell you the decibels, we're like, bro, we know what those decibels are. That's not how this works. That's not loud.

SPEAKER_04 1:14:45

Yeah, it's not super loud, my dude. Why are you just saying that? Yeah. Yeah, that's stupid. It's always the stupidest thing. Yeah. Anyway, um, final thoughts, Noah. Um what's your final rating on on the show as on night two and the show as a whole?

SPEAKER_00 1:15:08

Show as a whole, I'm beyond satisfied. I believe it's the much better Vegas Mania for sure. Um, yeah, that's true. Second night was definitely the better the better show. Night one was the undercard. Um but altogether.

SPEAKER_04 1:15:24

That's usually how it is anyway.

SPEAKER_00 1:15:25

I think it was a solid. Yeah, that's true. But altogether, I think it was a great, great mania.

SPEAKER_04 1:15:31

Writings?

SPEAKER_03 1:15:31

Did you have fun?

Final Ratings And Weekend Highlights

SPEAKER_04 1:15:32

Overall. Did you have fun? Oh, I had a blast. What's your what's your overall writing for the show?

SPEAKER_00 1:15:44

Oh, out of ten.

SPEAKER_04 1:15:45

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:15:51

I'd say point seven and a half.

SPEAKER_03 1:15:53

Yeah, that's fair.

SPEAKER_04 1:15:54

That's about what we are.

SPEAKER_03 1:15:55

That's fair. Wes.

SPEAKER_01 1:15:59

Uh definitely better than last year's. I'm gonna give it a 9.5 out of 10. Whoa, shit. I didn't like it a whole lot better than last year's. I liked everything about it. Uh I love Roman, I love Cody. What was your favorite part? Slipper off double bracket. My favorite part of the whole entire show, yeah. Roman?

SPEAKER_04 1:16:29

Yeah, I figured that.

SPEAKER_01 1:16:32

Roman, man. I love listen, I'm the biggest Cody fan there is. I love Cody.

SPEAKER_04 1:16:37

Roman's awesome, though.

SPEAKER_01 1:16:40

Just getting back to basics. Let Roman have a title and rule for a little bit longer.

SPEAKER_04 1:16:46

Kleibo, final thoughts? Overall, I think the show was great. I think it's definitely one of the better manias that I've seen. I don't know how the other ones were. But Night 2 overall was awesome. I love that. Roman won. Punk's probably gonna take time off to go with AJ.

SPEAKER_01 1:17:08

Make a baby.

SPEAKER_04 1:17:09

I think make a baby because of what Roman said. Yeah. About not having a legacy.

SPEAKER_01 1:17:15

Or maybe she's gonna try to put a baby in him. I don't know. She wears pantsuits. Definitely.

SPEAKER_04 1:17:20

Speaking of babies, uh, Bianca Butler. Oh, yeah. And she walked out when Bianca walked out in like just randomly in the middle of the show, Bianca comes out and she's wearing like she's not showing her body off what she shows her body off. As soon as she came out, I was like, uh, that bitch's pregnant. It makes sense why Montez has been going too. Yeah, she's pregnant for sure. No way she's just showing up. Why wouldn't she interfered?

SPEAKER_01 1:17:49

She and and the fact that she's pregnant, showing that she's pregnant, but still somehow has a six pack.

SPEAKER_04 1:17:58

I know. Yeah, that's insane. Actually, muscles on the outside of the baby. Yes.

SPEAKER_00 1:18:04

Yeah. That baby's just gonna come out shredded.

SPEAKER_04 1:18:07

It's gonna come out shredded and beautiful. But not too overall. It's probably my favorite Vegas. It definitely wasn't my favorite Vegas, actually. Rip New Orleans. Oh yeah. Ripped New Orleans, yeah. I I wonder if they even watched it. No way. Nobody in NOLO watched this at all. They'd be all pissed. They're all mad as hell. Uh not two overall. I'll give it a I'll give it seven. Seven? I think it was better in night one. Is that what you give the whole show? What do you give them the whole show? Whole show. I'll give it a 8.5. Math. Math. Math. My thoughts on the show. Highlights for me, really. I really loved, I really loved Roman. I think Roman's Roman's entrance was was awesome. I mean, everything about Roman was awesome. I think Dan Housen, I think that that whole spot with Dan Housen was fantastic and what the Miz is doing. Like, I think that was I think that was really good. I really thought Truth was gonna come out. I thought he might, but he's he's doing good with the tag. Just leave him alone, leave the tag. There, I thought it was I thought it was really good. I thought the whole show was really good. My my thought the whole the whole night too, and it's it was it was a recurring thought night two was this is the first time it feels like, and not from my perspective of what's right, but I feel like you know we have our finger on the pulse of fans, we know what fans like. And from a from a fan's perspective, WWE got it right this weekend. I think so too. I think they got it right. I think all the matches. I think not what I wanted, because obviously some of my picks were wrong, but I think WWE, as far as going forward, made all the right moves today this weekend. Made all the right moves. Like Oba went in was the right move. Now you got Oba over, you got Pinta holding a title still, you got Rhea with a title, you got Roman with a title, you got Cody taking the punt kick. You you know, you've you've re-established that feud, you've re-established. You've got Damon again. You you've got you got you got Finn a way over. Yeah. Right. Uh I think I think all that all that was good. You got Pat out of the picture and done with all that now, and and and you and you put Danhausen over somehow without him wrestling. Yeah. So I think it was a great show. I think it was eight and a half, like you said.

unknown 1:20:31

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:20:31

I think eight and a half is what I give it. It was very fun.

SPEAKER_01 1:20:35

I don't know if you guys noticed or not, but Lyra Valkyrie is two for two for knocking down a cameraman now during the paper.

SPEAKER_04 1:20:43

Does she knock down a cameraman? Hey man, sometimes you need to send people back down to the D-League.

SPEAKER_01 1:20:51

She was out of the ring and you could see it happen. She was out of the ring and she rolled and knocked this cameraman's legs out from under him. And like he he fell for 15 seconds trying to like juggle the camera and he flat backed his ass.

Indie Wrestling Shoutouts And Goodbyes

SPEAKER_04 1:21:05

I don't get it with her anymore. I I liked her when she first started, but I think she didn't come out with her big full gear, and that was the best thing about her. So you took that away from her now. But yeah, that's that's how I feel about it. Uh WrestleMania weekend was awesome in the books, worker shoot, worker shoot party. We had a great time, tons of food. We ate all the food. Too much food, actually. Yeah, way too much food. Yeah. Uh watch watch many cookies. With so many cookies. Watched all the wrestling all weekend. We're all completely exhausted. Everybody is. Tomorrow's gonna be a hard day for everybody.

SPEAKER_01 1:21:42

Congrats to our boys, the faction, the Jeff, Conley, and Baker for winning the AMW tag team belt.

SPEAKER_04 1:21:52

New South.

SPEAKER_01 1:21:53

New South South.

SPEAKER_04 1:21:54

New South belts.

SPEAKER_01 1:21:54

Oh, I'm sorry. The new South. New South Belts. The New South belts. And and they're still tag team belts.

SPEAKER_04 1:21:59

Zexy Z for getting his first win in his hometown.

SPEAKER_00 1:22:02

But listen, I just want to point this out too. Y'all do realize under the AMW branch, we got faction as New South Champs. And Kazanas is AMW tag champs.

SPEAKER_04 1:22:17

Oh yeah. He's right. I didn't realize that Kazanas were the AMW tag champs. So we're gonna get Yeah, they still are some we're gonna get uh unified tag match, faction versus shh, I can't even think about that match. Faction faction versus faction versus country. Who would we cheer for the unified titles? We can't even go. We can't cheer. We can't go. We're gonna piss there's gonna be some really big people that we make mad. They're gonna be disappointed in us. Some really huge people are gonna be disappointed in us either way. Beefy boys, beefy boys. We gotta separate. Like if four of us go, two of us gotta wear faction shirts, two of us gotta wear Kansan shirts. We have to we have to make sure. I have I have both. We're bipartisan parties. Yeah. Yeah, you do have both. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:23:01

Yeah, both too.

SPEAKER_04 1:23:02

Like cut them down the middle and like sew them, like a big jersey.

SPEAKER_01 1:23:05

Put them together. There we go.

SPEAKER_04 1:23:07

Awesome show. Hey, uh, thank you guys for sticking around. Thank you guys for watching the show. Another mania, another mania uh year in the books in the in the books, the starting of the new season. The new season starts now, and this is a new season for us too. Like we we usually recycle every WrestleMania. So pay attention to what's coming from the Workershoot podcast. Follow us on the social medias. You uh every post we make, the links are in the posts. Follow them there. You can follow us on Facebook, go to the YouTube, comment on YouTube, like it, rate everything. Anything helps us. Commenting or sharing our posts all help us all the time. All the time. So thanks for thanks for everything you guys are doing. Uh we we appreciate the fans. We wouldn't do it without you guys. Thank you guys for listening all the time. Thanks for getting us over. Yeah, we're at the road to a thousand follows. We're at eight eight eight something right now. So we're eight twenty. We'll try to get a thousand this week. We'll try to get a thousand this week, um, the first week after Mania. But yeah, follow us on all that stuff. Pay attention to everything. Uh, check us out, like, comment, holler at us, send us a message, come on the show. Go to an indie show, support indie wrestling. If you go to an indie show in this area, you are going to see us there. Right? You will see the worker shoot podcast there. Somebody will be there from us, usually at an indie show. If we're not at a local show, then it's crazy that all of us were busy because that rarely happens. Uh Wayne probably won't be there, but well, that's unfair. That's unfair. Uh shout out our boy Easy. Easy. Right? He was at the AMW show. He's in some of our pictures. Shout out our boy Tanner, hanging out with us at the shows this weekend and hanging out at WrestleMania. Had a great weekend. Had an awesome weekend. God, I love wrestling. Claybo, you got anything else? Next stop is over.

SPEAKER_03 1:25:00

Noah.

SPEAKER_00 1:25:03

As always. God wrestling's good.

SPEAKER_03 1:25:05

Wes.

SPEAKER_00 1:25:07

Good night, everybody.

SPEAKER_04 1:25:08

Claybo.

SPEAKER_00 1:25:09

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:25:11

Ring the bell.