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Work Or Shoot?: A Wrestling Podcast
Three Days Of Indie Wrestling Glory
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We recap an unforgettable three-day wrestling road trip through Tennessee, from a rowdy bar show in Knoxville to a studio banger in Kingsport and a mind-blowing NGW night at Mill and Mine. We also map out what we’re hitting next in Kentucky and beyond, plus quick thoughts on the bigger wrestling world that’s buzzing right now.
• JCP Tailgate Takeover at The Joe in Knoxville and the standout moments we can’t stop replaying
• Title changes and shout-outs to the Country Gents and other names making noise
• Innovate Collision Course results, ladder match chaos and why Axton Ray feels like a breakout
• Tyler Foshi’s sudden heel turn and the ripple effect it should create
• The unexpected real-life fight at NetPro Studios and how the night kept moving
• NGW at Mill and Mine, the PWG-style energy and why it’s a must-see Knoxville wrestling promotion
• Rich Swann surprise and match-of-the-night talk
• Tyler Breeze return and winning the NGW championship
• Upcoming dates we’re watching including KCW Shockwave and Innovate’s Expansion Draft brand split
• Quick hits on AAA, WWE and AEW including Double or Nothing notes
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Wild Intro And Weekend Setup
SPEAKER_01Ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, children of all ages, the team that brought you T4 Productions and Show and Color podcast proudly brings to you the greatest wrestling podcast in the world. Noah. What? Claybo. Yeet. Wes. Oh. Heavy D. Aw. I don't know where they're at. The Worker Shoot Podcast. And if you don't like that, we got two words for you. Hi. It's us. Only us. We're here. Me and Noah.
SPEAKER_00I don't know where the where the boomers are.
SPEAKER_01Is that a pretty good intro, you think? Yeah. I think so. You did a good job.
SPEAKER_00Did a real good job. Second time. Yeah. Yeah. Great time.
SPEAKER_01Heavy D not in studio once again. Um he got a little wore out from the three-day weekend that we're still recovering from it. The phenomenal three-day weekend we had, actually.
SPEAKER_00Um still about. I have no words for it, honestly. It was such a good weekend.
SPEAKER_01Awesome weekend, awesome time for wrestling in Tennessee.
SPEAKER_00Beautiful state of Tennessee. No support to the balls, though.
SPEAKER_01No.
unknownNo.
SPEAKER_01Go big blue.
SPEAKER_00Go dogs.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. Um, well, let's go ahead and talk about our three-day weekend.
SPEAKER_00Started in Knoxville, Tennessee.
SPEAKER_01Started in Knoxville at the Joe. JCP. What was it?
SPEAKER_00N W A J C P.
SPEAKER_01N W A J C P. Tailgate Takeover. Tailgate Takeover.
SPEAKER_00And my God. Claybow's first
JCP Tailgate Takeover At The Joe
SPEAKER_00time in the Joe. Well, in a bar, really.
SPEAKER_01In a bar. I stayed until like What? Oh, he was there until like midnight. Yeah, midnight. And I got they didn't realize I was a minor.
SPEAKER_00I really like this just has to be the height.
SPEAKER_01I know. And Noah spilled drink on a spilled beer on a pool table.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, they was more concerned about me spilling beer on a pool table than this child that was still in there after the show.
SPEAKER_01And then Noah spilled beer on the table, and they was like, all right, take your hats off. We're about to do the national anthem. And they waited like 20 minutes after.
SPEAKER_00Oh yeah. We stood their hats off hand on heart for how long until like everybody had. I'd say five minutes at least. We were the only ones he had to have told. Yeah. We were the only ones prepared.
SPEAKER_01And it was like in the middle of like it was like midnight and there wasn't even an event going on or anything.
SPEAKER_00Which I can't I it must be a common thing they do. I can't remember them doing it just at a random time, the times I've been there. But I mean, I'm not hating on the on the anthem, though. I mean, I'll I'll take my hat off, put my hand on my heart any damn time. Yeah. But the show, though, before all this, before the beer was spilt, before the anthem, it was the tailgate takeover. One hell of a show. We had who all we had. We had our boys, AJ, we had the Thrill Billy, Thrill Billy, NWA world champion.
SPEAKER_01Um, we had Carson Drake. We had um there were so many dudes there that were so good.
SPEAKER_00Well, the we all were also forgetting, too, there was Savannah or the Banana Ball teams.
SPEAKER_01The banana ball teams were there.
SPEAKER_00They had the Texas Telgators, the Beefy Boys.
SPEAKER_01Texas Tailgators, Savannah Bananas, they was there. Um, I thought there was another team there, but maybe there's not.
SPEAKER_00I think it was just those two. I think so. Which they played each other that night after in Knoxville at Elen Stadium, a hundred thousand people in attendance. So many people there. My God. But it's awesome to see our boys AJ and KC out there doing big things along with all the wrestling stuff they're doing.
SPEAKER_01Speaking of AJ and KC, new NWA tag team champions. Shout out our boys, the country gents. And uh, we also got new tag champs in NWA. Fluff.
SPEAKER_00They won the what was it?
SPEAKER_01Was it the I think it's the JCP ones.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, the yeah, Fluff Man and uh I forgot the other dude's name. Uh Thoroughbred. Big Daddy Thoroughbred or something like that, I think.
SPEAKER_01He came out to save a horse ride a cowboy.
SPEAKER_00Which was awesome. Yeah, that was that's a great. That's such a great choice of a song.
SPEAKER_01I thought it was okay, so here's the funny thing. I thought it was AJ Kazano when we first walked in. You did. Because I was like, Dad, there's AJ on top of the thing, and he was like, it's not AJ, I think that's his brother.
SPEAKER_00We both we walked up there, I mean it looked just like him. I mean, the the the getup, I mean it was just a black t-shirt, jeans, he had the beard. We walked up, we're both like, what's up, man? And I dap him up and I look, I'm like, I don't think that's AJ.
SPEAKER_01I I dapped him up and I was like, hold on. Because I was wearing my AJ shirt and he was like, hey, nice shirt, and I was like, thanks, and I thought it was AJ. And so I was like, and then I got like a closer look and it was not him, and then we seen him over at the bar.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, AJ was about 10 more steps out in front of us. Noah bought him a beer, actually. I did. Well, it wasn't a beer, it was uh a drink. I can't even remember what it was, but I told him back at AMW War Games that if I was traveling to Knoxville for a show, that I'm drinking something with him.
SPEAKER_01That happened.
SPEAKER_00And I fulfilled that. So you're welcome for that, AJ. I hope it was a great drink.
SPEAKER_01It's kind of fun in a bar, actually. It is. Staying in a bar.
SPEAKER_00You know, like, God, I sound like such a bad influence. I don't even go to bars that much. I really, rarely do.
SPEAKER_01It was fun though. That show was awesome.
SPEAKER_00It's so great. Did we have we had the that that tag title change? Uh was there any other title change? Yeah, the stud championship. Yes. Who who was it that won that?
SPEAKER_01Axon Ray faced him earlier in NWA. I forgot his name.
SPEAKER_00Damn it. I don't know his name. That's what happens whenever you take too long of a break.
SPEAKER_01We did take too long of a break. We apologize, really.
SPEAKER_00Too long, honestly.
SPEAKER_01It's been too long. We should have dropped content. We was just wore out. We're just now recovering from the three-day weekend, actually.
SPEAKER_00Honestly. Took us a long time, but coming back home from the three-day weekend, straight back to work, you straight back to school. No, you had finals.
SPEAKER_01I had finals right when I got back. But school's out now. For the summer. I'm ready to make some content for you guys. And just stay tuned with us. The workership crew has big things coming up.
SPEAKER_00Which speaking of the content, we do got vlogs for this whole three-day weekend that we are currently talking about that are in the progress. Of being fixed up for you beautiful people to watch them. And on wait, on what? On what what is it that we got them on? What? Our Patreon.
SPEAKER_02What?
SPEAKER_00Go pay some human monies. You ain't even got to.
SPEAKER_01I was confused by the by the question.
SPEAKER_00You ain't even got to pay human monies, but if you want to, it would be greatly appreciated. And subscribe to our Patreon. And you can watch these vlogs. It's not forced. We already got one posted that you can go watch right now. Another one in the making. Three of them in the making. Three. Three separate days.
SPEAKER_01Oh, three separate days. Yeah, you're right. One of them got messed up because we got behind a slow car.
SPEAKER_00Got it. Yeah. My God. It's been two weeks of hell with people on the road, really.
SPEAKER_01It has. We stayed in a camper and I froze myself to death in a room. Um, we went and ate green tomato grill, some of the best food.
SPEAKER_00That Saturday morning, night after the Joe.
SPEAKER_01Some of the best food I've had in a long time.
SPEAKER_00So delicious. Big ass country fried chicken. I got what was damn. Y'all got everything.
SPEAKER_01I got ribs and mac and cheese balls.
SPEAKER_00Yes, the mac and cheese balls were Jesus Christ. They were God. Um which we left. No, we went back to the camper after we ate that morning. Yeah. Heavy D took him a nap. You know, Paw Pa Pawpa's gotta take his nap.
SPEAKER_01We didn't let him take a nap, actually. Well, it was about 30, 45 minutes. 30, 45 minute nap, and then we woke him up to go work out with Jeff Baker.
SPEAKER_00Yes.
SPEAKER_01Which was awesome, actually.
SPEAKER_00I was sitting at the camper. Baker's like, I'm about to head to the gym if, you know, if y'all want to come meet. And the camper is an hour away from Kingsport. I'm like, oh shit. Go wake up, Dusty. I'm like, hey Dusty. He wakes up, he's like, huh. I was like, Baker's about to go work out. He's like, that's exactly what he did, actually. Literally. So he got up and we went and got a nice pump with the big beefy bastard.
SPEAKER_01We did.
SPEAKER_00And poor Clay. I tipped my hat to him. Because he didn't change no weights or nothing. Bro put in the work. He might have needed a bidet to wipe his ass the next morning. I did actually. But by God, he put in the work. We did some RVDs. You know, actually, after we came back home, I did I did those my first arm day back. Oh, really? Yes. I bet. They're so good. I loved them. I'm gonna start doing them, really. They are so great. It's almost like a Bayesian curl, but up here, you know, which I guess is about the same.
SPEAKER_01Like if I if I go to the rec center or something and lift, I'm oh yeah.
SPEAKER_00I'm gonna do it. Which I will say they're they ain't wide enough that you gotta do them one arm at a time. Still works, though. Oh really? Still works.
SPEAKER_01But that day was fun. Friday was awesome. We got home from the Joe. We was worn out. We went straight to sleep.
SPEAKER_00Yes, God. Which we didn't get home till probably two o'clock. Between one and two.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. My God. Which I honestly. I might have gotten a slightly inebriated that night. Nothing too crazy. Just a little bit. But we was about on our way, we was about back to the camper, and I was like, you know, this ain't been that bad of a ride. And Dave was like, because you wasn't here half the ride. You know what? That's a fair point. It's a very fair point. So I got home, well not home, but to the camper. And I just I conked out. I know Clay did. Yeah, I did. Well, I don't know if he conked out, he more or less freezed out.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. Well, it wasn't that cold whenever I went to sleep. It's whenever I woke up. Oh, yeah. I couldn't like take the covers off of. I was like, I dreaded getting up because it was freezing. But we did sleep in a little bit and then we went and ate. So that was fun. Now on to Saturday.
SPEAKER_00Yes. Which we've already we've made it, you know, we went and worked out with Baker, which I I do want to say he can say that we didn't hold him up. We might have, I think we held him up.
SPEAKER_01I think we did hold him up.
SPEAKER_00We made him and and we do apologize for that, Baker. He says, he says we didn't make him late, but but he is he's a real one for waiting on us until we got there to start. So we're sorry, Baker, but thank you so much. Thank you, Baker.
SPEAKER_01Um Saturday, Innovate and Net Pro Studios Collision Course.
SPEAKER_00God, hell of a show. Awesome show. Start to finish, as always.
SPEAKER_01New VIP winner
Innovate Collision Course Highlights
SPEAKER_01belt. Well, winner necklace.
SPEAKER_00VIP fast pass winner, but that's what he is. He ain't even the holder now because he cashed that damn thing in the same time.
SPEAKER_01He cashed it in the same night against Andy Optimal to win the Innovate Grand Slam Championship.
SPEAKER_00And I mean, uh, who better than Axton fucking Ray?
SPEAKER_01And got a little teaser from Axon Ray saying he's on to do big things.
SPEAKER_00Which we thought was for sure WWE or AEW.
SPEAKER_01It's not.
SPEAKER_00But honestly, what it ended up being, I think, is in my eyes almost bigger.
SPEAKER_01NWA.
SPEAKER_00Yes.
SPEAKER_01That's your start to like getting up.
SPEAKER_00Which is crazy to see. They're they're they're seeing this on what's the date?
SPEAKER_01Today's Wednesday the third.
SPEAKER_00Okay. So y'all are gonna be watching this on the fourth or after. And if you're watching this on the fourth.
SPEAKER_01If you're watching this on the sixth, then you'll see him in action at NWA in Atlanta, Georgia.
SPEAKER_00Against. Against the son of a legend. Some might even say he's somewhat of a legend, too. Kobe Carino, who's making his in ring return for almost a year out, I believe, from a neck injury. Wow. And Axton's his first opponent.
SPEAKER_01Oh my gosh.
SPEAKER_00That's crazy. Which hell on that card's stacked too.
SPEAKER_01That is stacked.
SPEAKER_00Thrill Billy versus um Carrie Moore. I wish we could make it to that. Gosh. I didn't realize it was so close until today. I was like, oh shit, the six is this weekend.
SPEAKER_01Uh yeah.
SPEAKER_00So Axton has the big things planned. Mm-hmm. Um all while being the face of Innovate, once again.
SPEAKER_01We wanted to get him on. I still think we got to. Because I think he'll still be innovate.
SPEAKER_00Oh yeah. They wouldn't have put the title on him. If he ain't gonna still be with Innovate.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, you're right. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00You know. I mean, he well, I mean, he's with or without the title, he's one of the faces of Innovate regardless. He is. He definitely is. So I mean they're I don't think they're gonna just throw the title on him for him to not be there. You know, I don't think and even if he does give us a Roman range treatment, by all means he deserves it. He does. Because my god, that man's an animal. But let's backtrack a little bit to before he won that fast pass. Because that match Jesus Christ.
SPEAKER_01Nicole Payne was hardcore as a as a I mean Yes.
SPEAKER_00She is one hardcore. And that's all there is to it.
SPEAKER_02What?
SPEAKER_00Which also, too, what started out as an eight-man ladder match.
SPEAKER_01Turned into a ten.
SPEAKER_00Just the week of.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_00I mean, and it was high, it was everything you wanted to. It was, you you had high flyers. You had Trayvon Ali flying over the top rope. Yeah, you had high flyers, you had big big brutes, you had big brutes that are high flyers, like Trayvon Lali. Great, but great guy, by the way. Yes, great guy. Go on the show, man. But dude, all the spots that happened there. The moonsault from Brandon Hartsook off the ladder to the outside. I mean, yeah, Habibi jumping off the ladders.
SPEAKER_01Habibi was awesome.
SPEAKER_00Dude, Habibi. That new jack gear. H2K, baby.
SPEAKER_01That's actually our baseball saying.
SPEAKER_00Really? Yeah. That's hard. No pun intended.
SPEAKER_01It's H2K.
SPEAKER_00But dude, it was from start to finish, from one spot to the next. One of the craziest matches I think we've seen.
SPEAKER_01It is. Wild Bill.
SPEAKER_00God, if Wild Bill is in a ladder match, someone's just guaranteed to go through a table.
SPEAKER_01What? Didn't he get hurt or something? Uh, he got Oh, he got kicked in the face.
SPEAKER_00Oh, yeah. Trayvon kicked the shit out of him. He got kicked in the face. My God, and I got it on camera too. And which the one I got on tape wasn't the one that he was talking about. Oh, really? So he got got two or three times in that match.
SPEAKER_01Big Scary got got too, didn't he?
SPEAKER_00Jeez God, Big Scary. That was a hell of a match or two.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_00That man ate so many headshots.
SPEAKER_01So many chair headshots.
SPEAKER_00You would have thought that the Rock and Mick Foley was there in the ring. Yeah. It was a lot of headshots. Which was awesome. But my God, dude, I hope your headache is gone by now. Probably not, though.
SPEAKER_01Man, I want to bring Easy. I want to bring Easy to the innovate show.
SPEAKER_00God. It'd blow his socks off.
SPEAKER_01He'd just be up though. Like he'd be up running around recording.
SPEAKER_00As he should, though. Yeah. At a place like that. Yeah. God. I don't know if he, I don't know if he I don't think he'd survive. Because there's no barricade or nothing. He, God. I'm telling you, it would, it'd probably blow his little mullet off. Yeah, it would. It about blew mine off the first time. Crazy would let him chop somebody. Oh, dude, we got to. We gotta make that happen. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Oh man. That was one of the better innovate shows I've seen.
SPEAKER_00Which is crazy though, because we say that after every innovate show. I know. I know, I know, I know. It seems like the one the next one always tops the last. That's a good thing, though. That's a damn good thing.
SPEAKER_01Shout out, shout out Dan and Tony. Yes, I was about to say it too.
SPEAKER_00Yes, shout out Dan and Tony, which we had Dan on our last episode. If you ain't seen that, go watch it. Great episode with him.
SPEAKER_01He had a heck of a promo.
SPEAKER_00God, dude. That I ain't felt a promo like that in a while, really.
SPEAKER_01Hey, they showed up.
SPEAKER_00I'm just kidding.
unknownNah. No.
SPEAKER_01We did see some uh horrible videos up there.
SPEAKER_00They did, yes. They did. Did you did you see it? Oh, yeah. Dad showed you. Oh well, no, I saw. Either I saw it before your dad or I. Tony posted it. Oh yeah. Tony posted it and then posted it on the innovate page.
SPEAKER_01That kick to the gut wasn't even like close.
SPEAKER_00None of it was even close.
SPEAKER_01None of it. I mean, and after Dad said me and you could have put on more of a show than that. Absolutely. 100%.
SPEAKER_00After watching that, I was like, damn, I should have listened to everyone wanting to do it.
SPEAKER_01I think I think we would have been the best ones in there. Oh yeah.
SPEAKER_00But honestly, I if I got in there, I'd just been a stiff bastard, but at least been doing but at least been doing stuff correctly. We'd have took months, right? Oh yeah. And we wouldn't trip out of nowhere. Yeah. You know, we if you know, we'd be actually Yeah, when that they're tripped, we'd we would be actually calling spots, not just in our head. Yeah. But I don't know, man. That was a that was a shit show, really.
SPEAKER_01Dan had a promo. What was he talking about?
SPEAKER_00He's talking about pedophiles and Yeah, so yes, he, you know, so he came out waiting for, you know, Pelvis Wesley and and and his two goons to show up for the call out. Which, like everyone expected, they never they, you know, they didn't show. They had what the door open?
SPEAKER_01Door was open, garage was open.
SPEAKER_00I mean, they, you know, all they had to do was take a step take a few steps into the into the into the school. You keep going, I'll say it later. Okay. But while while we waited, Dan said a few few choice of words and meant every bit of it. It's what? It's about 10 minutes, 10, 15 minutes of it.
SPEAKER_01It's probably a 10 10 minute promo.
SPEAKER_00About a 10-minute promo. And he covered a lot of things about you know he believes he's the reason for uh that slop fest of a promotion. Or at least has some responsibility from it.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_00And understandably, but he's he, you know, he he aired his grievances and left it at that. His, you know, the past is the past. He's leaving it in the past, he says. But if you haven't heard the promo or watched it, you need to go watch it.
SPEAKER_01You need to go watch it on in it's on Innovate YouTube, right?
SPEAKER_00Uh, I think it's on their Facebook. Yeah, should should be on their Facebook and YouTube. It should be where on everything. That's what I thought.
SPEAKER_01Um Yeah.
SPEAKER_00So Which that started the show.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, that opened up the show.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. Which was, I think, a good start.
SPEAKER_01It was a great start because it got it really did get the crowd going. It got them hot.
SPEAKER_00Oh, yeah. Well, and I'll just put it like this, too. When you got the man who typically apologizes for any foul choice of words at the shows is dropping quite a few F bombs, you know the man means business. And he means what he's he says what he means and he means what he says.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. That was fun. It was a fun show.
SPEAKER_00F U N. Actually with a couple in, actually.
SPEAKER_01F U N N N N N.
SPEAKER_00And just keep it going. Times it by three.
SPEAKER_01This is off topic, but I I told somebody they was talking about something about me, and I said that's a F A K T fact. Oh, that's awesome. 'Cause it like they didn't know what it meant, so I just wanted to say it. Shout out, troublemakers. Yes.
SPEAKER_00Um still got your towel right here.
SPEAKER_01Back going back to innovate, we seen the faction. Uh and Bron Bronson Garrett handcuffed to Truman. Yes. And we seen Tyler Foshi and Crash, right? It was Crash.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, Tyler Foshi and our boy Crash against the faction. Against the faction. Bronson handcuffed to Truman.
SPEAKER_01Truman took some crazy bumps. Surprisingly, actually.
SPEAKER_00Dude, that super kicked on the outside. That bump he took with that. Right beside us. On the hard ground. No pad and nothing.
unknownThud.
SPEAKER_00I think that's the first bump he's ever took. I felt that in my chair he hit the ground so hard.
SPEAKER_01I think he wanted him to do that because he'll be out.
SPEAKER_00Oh, yeah, for sure. Oh yeah, for sure. Yeah. And by God, he took it like he'd been doing it. He had a good promo. He had a damn good promo.
SPEAKER_01That got me fired up, really.
SPEAKER_00And we love you, Truman.
SPEAKER_01Love you, Truman. You're you're gonna win.
SPEAKER_00Absolutely. You're gonna kick its ass, actually.
SPEAKER_01That was awesome. He got he got the crowd fired up. He said, all your problems that you're having right now, put them aside. You're here for wrestling. And I've lived by that same thing. Yes. Ever since I've actually went to KCW. KCW's where my indie journey really started.
SPEAKER_00KCW, you let that fire under your ass.
SPEAKER_01It did. Really?
SPEAKER_00For every right. Yeah. Honestly, I don't think a better promotion to like. We'll get there. We'll get there. We will. We'll get there. We will.
SPEAKER_01Um while we're on that. Tyler Foshi turned hill.
SPEAKER_00Yes, after the match. Without Nick Hammond's there, too.
SPEAKER_01I think that's why they didn't bring him.
SPEAKER_00So but not just that, we need hopefully Nick's at the next show because we're we gotta hear something from him about it. I mean, he was part of G1 and Pineapple Express.
SPEAKER_01I've talked to him about coming on.
SPEAKER_00Who, Nick?
SPEAKER_01No, Tyler. Oh really? Yeah. We need to get him on. I messaged him on TikTok. Hell yeah, we need to get him on. Yeah. He doesn't like to eat, apparently. That's what he says on his TikToks. He hates food. Wow. That's what he said. Whatever float your boat, man.
SPEAKER_00Tony Gibbons was put in a sleeper hold by Tyler Foshi. Well, first off, we need to explain how what like what happened with him turning.
SPEAKER_01What did happen?
SPEAKER_00Truman was up on the turnbuckle. I think celebrating to the crowd or something. Yeah, he was. And Foshi came up behind him and just low blowed him.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Which was another big bump from Truman too, off that second rope to the mat. Which I'd say it probably didn't feel too good. And so right then and there, we're like, oh shit, Foshi's, you know, Foshi's turning. Then he turned on crash. And dude, and it which was wild just because he was I thought he I think he was quite pr quite babyface, you know.
SPEAKER_01He was, yeah.
SPEAKER_00You know, G1, Pineapple Express. Everybody loves him. There wasn't even no sign of him turning. No. Like it truthfully, truthfully, that was a swerve and a half.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_00So then he, you know, he exits the ring. Tony comes in, you know, checking on Truman. And then Foshi just comes back, throws Tony in a rear neck of choke. Puts Tony out, Gunther style.
SPEAKER_01Chris told me that was a last minute thing.
SPEAKER_00Oh yeah, I bet.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Oh yeah.
SPEAKER_01It's awesome, dude.
SPEAKER_00Dude, there's always there's always a good work. And there's always a shoot at Innovate Wrestling.
SPEAKER_01There is. Oh my. Speaking of shoots, this is what I was gonna say earlier. Another shoot fight happened at NetPro Studios. Um so the dude that always runs concession stands makes some makes my wonderful hot dogs. His girlfriend works right beside him and works to
Parking Lot Chaos And Waffle House
SPEAKER_01register or whatever. And this dude just goes over there and starts hitting on her, and the dude just winds back and just punches her, punches the dude, and he's out called. I mean we're outside, just talk.
SPEAKER_00We're talking to Zen Fortune.
SPEAKER_01We was shout out Zen. And the dude's just out. One punch, he was out. Cops are in there. Um I I try to go get a concession after the fight, and it took them forever because they was trying to get all that situated.
SPEAKER_00It was so funny because uh, like I said, we're out there talking to Zen, just you know, out in the middle of the parking lot. So we're quite a bit away away from it, and all we we just hear this commotion and people hooting and hollering and and and people leaving and stuff, and we're like, what the hell is going on?
SPEAKER_01Some lady was so mad about something. Did you hear oh yeah?
SPEAKER_00She was so mad. Well, there's always an old lady mad after a commotion.
SPEAKER_01What did she say, dude? She said something so funny. I can't remember what she said.
SPEAKER_00It was a lot, it was a lot going on at that moment. We didn't know what the hell happened until like right before intermission was over. Like it took like everybody's like, I don't know what happened, and we're like, what happened?
SPEAKER_01What was the match after that? Was it Crazo? No, Crazo was no crazo was opener.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, he was one of the opening matches, which w which I think was a good match.
SPEAKER_01Oh, it was faction and I think. Gosh, I don't know.
SPEAKER_00And I don't know. Oh Mark. Those three days about running together for me.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I don't I don't remember anything from I I do remember it. I don't know.
SPEAKER_00Exhaustion.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_00We're so exhausted from everything. Yes. But we ain't stopping. There might be a break took, but we ain't stopping.
SPEAKER_01No. No stopping.
SPEAKER_00All gas. No. I just said we took we might take a break. I don't say that. That's uh it's contradicting.
SPEAKER_01No gas, all I don't know.
SPEAKER_00All gas and sometimes some brakes. Some brakes, light brakes, light duty brakes. Or just yeah. Even marks get tired. Marks get tired a lot. We do. We get back up.
SPEAKER_01But innovate collision course was awesome. Always. It we thought it was the best one we was gonna go to. Yes. Until. No. Well, hang on. I want to mention one more thing. After Innovate, we go to Waffle House. That's our tradition after Innovate. One of the funnest Waffle House trips.
SPEAKER_00Oh, dude, that Waffle House is always a good time. That is. Whether whether if we're whether if it's the the waiters and and and stuff or waiters, never mind. Or just people that are there eating too. Yeah. Because hell you never know. Sometimes we'll run into to wrestlers or we'll run into other fans. It's always like a nice reunion, post-show reunion at the wall at the Waffle House and uh Teach Sport.
SPEAKER_01Who's our waiter?
SPEAKER_00The dude. Damn, I cannot remember his name. I cannot remember his name. He's there every time we go there. Every time. Great spirits guy. Love him.
SPEAKER_01And then uh another girl was there.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. My God. Well, no, no. We won't go there. I ain't never met someone so off the rails.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, we won't go there. Um, but I just wanted to mention that because that was that Waffle House trip was fun.
SPEAKER_00Oh god, yeah, it's always fun. It's always fun.
SPEAKER_01We always eat good down there.
SPEAKER_00I play I I tread lightly this time. No casualties after the Waffle House for me.
SPEAKER_01We always eat good down there.
SPEAKER_00Oh god, yeah. Always. Whether if it's one night, three nights, two nights, who knows?
SPEAKER_01Well, we thought Innovate was gonna be the best show of the weekend. Boy, was we wrong.
unknownDamn.
SPEAKER_01Just going on to Sunday. NGW.
SPEAKER_00Next generation wrestling.
SPEAKER_01Knoxville, Tennessee.
SPEAKER_00At the mill and mine.
SPEAKER_01At the mill and mine. The venue was awesome. The matches was awesome.
SPEAKER_00I mean, there listen.
SPEAKER_01Boys, there wasn't much more we could ask for with
NGW At Mill And Mine
SPEAKER_01that show.
SPEAKER_00I've I've said it since we we were at the show. And I don't even I don't even think you know what I'm talking about. But if you've not been to NGW, Next Gen Wrestling, in Knoxville, you are missing out. Missing out. I have now listen. When I was in middle school, me and Chase was N D wrestling crazy. I like to think during that time, I want to like from 2014 to about 2018 was in my eyes almost like prime indie wrestling. Whether it was ROH, any of them, Chikara, there's one that any hardcore fan knows, which is Pro Wrestling Gorilla, PWG. And I don't know if you've seen anything from PWG. They're not around no more. I don't know if they're just completely gone or what. But every big star that came from the Indies has stepped through PWG. And there is some controversial things coming out about it here here lately. Which I like the wrestling side of it. I ain't side, I you know, I ain't with the controversial uh stuff that they've said. I've never seen I ain't seen it. Don't worry about the PWG files. Okay. Just worry about the PWG wrestling. But NGW with the venue and just the style of how it flowed reminded me so much of PWG. Fans coming around after matches, beating on the apron, streamers being thrown. I mean, it was everything we would have wanted in an indie wrestling show. And not just that, being the best show of the weekend, and no, like it was all like there were no weapons or nothing.
SPEAKER_01No.
SPEAKER_00And as much as I love We did have a dude jump from the rafters. Yes, there was a dude jump from the rafters. And I missed it too.
SPEAKER_01I'll post that on the on our worker shoot page for you guys to see.
SPEAKER_00Yes, because my God. We thought Truman took some gnarly bumps until dudes jumping from the rafters.
SPEAKER_01It was an awesome, awesome night. A lot of net pro guys there, actually.
SPEAKER_00Yes.
SPEAKER_01Crash was there. Habibi was there.
SPEAKER_00Andy.
SPEAKER_01Andy Optimal.
SPEAKER_00Braxton Kane.
SPEAKER_01Braxton Kane. Uh Jay Venom. Um and Mark's Stunner was his name.
SPEAKER_00Is that what yeah.
SPEAKER_01Stunner's his name in Innovate.
SPEAKER_00I don't know if that's I believe it was the same name. Yeah. No disrespect. But honestly, the two best pre-show matches I think we've ever seen at any show. Oh, 100%. They were great pre-show matches. And not just that, we had two surprises at that show that no one was expecting. No one knew about.
SPEAKER_01I just forgot.
SPEAKER_00For starters, there was a fatal four-way match. Ishabon, who, again, to my knowledge, is like, you know, very known on the indies. Like Dayton backed Pete. Oh, yeah. You know, I mean, he's wrestled uh Javon. Yeah, that dude's like I reckon that dude's ran the indies for a while. Very known. So I wasn't even expecting to see him. So we had Ishabon, Terry Aki, which I was impressed by him. His name is Terry Aki. Yes, which is clever as hell.
SPEAKER_01It is.
SPEAKER_00Um what was the other dude? Chad uh Chad Rad Raderick. Yeah, Chad Radman or something. Chad Raderick, I think. Raderick. Something. It was something Raderick. And then there was one more person left. And it was supposed to just be a triple threat. Mm-hmm.
SPEAKER_01I'm pretty sure. No. No, that's wrong.
SPEAKER_00I can't remember. But there was one per one more person left. Music hits, you know, it's some groovy shit. You know, I'm, you know, get my job.
SPEAKER_01Did you know what it was as soon as it hit?
SPEAKER_00Not until I turned around and saw the Titan Tron. I didn't know who he was. Because, you know, our back, we were sitting at the ramp, so our backs are towards the stage. Yeah. So I'm already liking the music. I turn and look at the screen, it just says Swan. Rich Swan made his return to NGW, which again, I didn't know he had a history. There's so many stars that have a history there that I didn't know about. Rich Swan, crazy match. Danced with half of the crowd making his entrance. I mean, it was beautiful. Gosh. And this was before the bell rang. How many, how many dives and Topei, you know, Tope can helos and how many flying high, flying, crazy shit happened in that match, Clay?
SPEAKER_01For me, best match of the night.
SPEAKER_00Honestly, I would have to I would have to agree.
SPEAKER_01Best match of the night. It was it was pretty much all luchadors. Well, not luchador's high flyers.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_01There's one luchador and three high flyers in that match.
SPEAKER_00And teriyaki's a big dude. He is. He's a pretty big dude. He is. Are you are you claiming him as the luchador?
SPEAKER_01No.
SPEAKER_00Oh, okay.
SPEAKER_01Mainly Ichibon, which he is, but But that's also that's like a Japanese name.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. I don't know what it's style. I don't know. It's crazy. It's it's it's high flying flippy stuff, and I and I like it. I don't I don't care what anyone says about spot fests and stuff, as long as it's done right, but it's some of the best wrestling you can watch, in my opinion.
SPEAKER_01Rich Swan, former WWE Cruiserweight champion.
SPEAKER_00Yes, sir. Mr. 205 Live.
SPEAKER_01Gosh, that was awesome times. 205 Live.
SPEAKER_00It was awesome. It really was, dude. The Cruiserweight uh classic that started, you know, that was started for 205 Live was crazy too. Prime 2016.
SPEAKER_01And our main event, which was supposed to go on as just a normal single one-on-one singles match, the promoter, somebody, comes out.
SPEAKER_00Which let's see it first off, we need to acknowledge who the who the ch uh champion was, which was Matt Cross. Matt Cross, yeah, that's who it was. And if you don't know about him, I mean, if you if you remember the Lucha Underground days, Son of Havoc, I mean, that's that's where I discovered it, Matt was Lucha Underground years ago. One of the best shooting star presses I've ever seen. Didn't get to hit it the match. I was very upset. But it's okay.
SPEAKER_01It's okay.
SPEAKER_00So him alone being champion coming in, that was still crazy. See him. I mean, there were so many names that was there that was just wild to see. So you already got him, and then what was it? Uh Suge?
SPEAKER_01Suge, yeah.
SPEAKER_00Suge was his opponent.
SPEAKER_01And what was supposed to go down is just a normal one-on-one singles match for the NGW title. The promoter comes out, says, Hold on. Remember the number one contenders match. You lost, or something. What'd he say?
SPEAKER_00I can't even re I think he said like this this dude was the number one contender.
SPEAKER_01But he had to leave for something.
SPEAKER_00I believe so.
SPEAKER_01So he ended up He says you wasn't the original one number one contender.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_01He points to the Titentron, says he is. Music hits, says Breeze on the Titentron. Tyler Breeze comes back, returns to NGW.
SPEAKER_00Again, didn't know he had a history with T.
SPEAKER_01Didn't know he had a history with NGW.
SPEAKER_00Like this is our first NGW show. You know, we went in blind, knowing nothing about it.
SPEAKER_01And we loved it, actually.
SPEAKER_00And came out diehard NGW fans now, which they announced their next show, July 26th, I believe.
SPEAKER_01Okay.
SPEAKER_00Wrestle Wars, I think.
SPEAKER_01Put that on the schedule.
SPEAKER_00Yes.
SPEAKER_01Because we have to go.
unknownDude.
SPEAKER_00I just I would I want to see I just I just want to see more, dude. Like I want to see what they what all they got. Because like I said, we we saw the best show of the weekend, not a single weapon used. So I just wonder what their other shows are like with different stipulations and stuff like that.
SPEAKER_01I will say they're whenever they had promos backstage, the screen didn't really work for them.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, yeah. The the all the segments didn't really we heard them all.
SPEAKER_01We heard them.
SPEAKER_00But it it would it it freeze.
SPEAKER_01We had a retirement match actually. We did, dude. It was a career because I love that team.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. That was such the Lost Boys. Lost Boys, yeah. Dude, they were I enjoyed the hell out of them.
SPEAKER_01They they had like a Paul Heyman guy kinda, and he turned heel on them. And because before the match, the dude was very confident in them winning or whatever. And uh he was like, They're the Lost Boys are gonna put their careers on the line, and they they didn't want to do it, but they did it because he made the match official. And then halfway through the match, the dude turns on them and costs on the match. Yeah. And loses on the tag titles and loses their loses them their careers. And in the process, Noah got his hat knocked off.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. Thomas Heem, Thomas Heim, too fine, Thomas Haim, whatever the hell your name is, dude. Screw you. Screw you. I was gonna say something more mean, but I'm gonna try to hold back.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, just hold you can you don't have to hold back when we get to the segment under this one.
SPEAKER_00Oh yeah, yeah, you're right. You're right. Yeah, I'm saving it for that.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I know you are. We'll post it for him to see. Um Tyler Breeze, new champion. Yes, new NGW world champion.
SPEAKER_00Which means we'll see him again as long as we're there for the next show.
SPEAKER_01Hopefully, I hope we do. And that was the third party ball, too. I can't imagine how the other ones were.
SPEAKER_00I dude, I know. And also, I do want to point this out too. So, one of the biggest things I was excited about for that show was Mance Warner was going to be there. Well, Saturday, standing in line for the Innovate show, it was posted that Mance wasn't gonna make it to the show to the party bowl. And I was like, bro, that was like the biggest reason. Yes. That was I was like, that's one of the biggest reasons I was wanting to go. Well, fast forward to Sunday. We're leaving the show. I look on uh look on Facebook. Old Mancer was at double or nothing. So all the bitching I did, I take it back. Well, you got you you got to see Tyler Brees. I don't know. I mean, I'm I'm highly satisfied, but I gotta see Old Mancer at least.
SPEAKER_01What if we didn't go?
SPEAKER_00We would have missed out on so much.
SPEAKER_01Because you guys said, and the only reason we was gonna go is because of Mance Warner. And I was like, we're going to this show. We didn't come down here for two shows, we came down here for three.
SPEAKER_00And that was the correct decision. Yeah. That was a responsible decision.
SPEAKER_01It was.
SPEAKER_00The baby of the group making the responsible decisions.
SPEAKER_01I know wrestling.
SPEAKER_00You do.
SPEAKER_01I didn't know the venue was gonna be that nice, actually.
SPEAKER_00No, I didn't. I had no, I just knew the name of the place, and that's it.
SPEAKER_01I mean, they had candy, they had really good hot dogs actually. They had good hot dogs, really.
SPEAKER_00Really good hot dogs. Pretzels would have been good if they wasn't so damn salty.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I agree. I don't like very salty pretzels at all. Yeah, me neither. Way too much salt. Uh, they had a bunch of candy, a bunch of pop, water, anything really.
SPEAKER_00A little bit of beer.
SPEAKER_01Chris Hanson was there. Hunter was there.
SPEAKER_00Chris Hanson. Is this dateline?
SPEAKER_01Not Chris Hanson.
SPEAKER_00Chris Harman.
SPEAKER_01The ref.
SPEAKER_00Buff Daddy Ref.
SPEAKER_01Buff Daddy.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Buff Daddy was there. Why'd I say Chris? Oh. What? I couldn't find the button. I was trying to do it earlier. I couldn't find it. Oh, I'm off the rails. Okay. New NGW champion, Tyler Breeze.
SPEAKER_00Which was a great way to, you know, end the show.
SPEAKER_01I didn't know it was the main event, actually.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, you didn't, didn't you?
SPEAKER_01So many drunk people there, by the way.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, there was.
SPEAKER_01We seen a girl fall outside. Oh, yeah, we did, didn't we?
SPEAKER_00My God.
SPEAKER_01She wiped out. Oh yeah. Splat.
SPEAKER_00That's what I heard.
SPEAKER_01Oh my gosh. Show was awesome. Best show of the weekend. But worker shoot crew had an awesome, awesome three day weekend in Tennessee. One of the best states of wrestling, I feel like.
SPEAKER_00Absolutely.
SPEAKER_01From that we've seen.
SPEAKER_00I mean, I truly the Tennessee wrestling scene is absolutely wild. Honestly, no matter where you go, unless it's uh King Promotions.
SPEAKER_01We were
SPEAKER_00And it's just absolutely dog shit.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, don't go there. We was right near Vall Stadium, weren't we?
SPEAKER_00Yeah, we was right downtown for the for the NGW show. Yeah. Nealin was probably just right down the road.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Which was wild thinking that just the day before. Again, a hundred thousand people. Yeah. Still, that's just mind blowing for a baseball, for a Harlem Globetrotters type baseball game.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_00I love America.
SPEAKER_01But awesome three-day weekend for the worker shoot crew. Had a blast. Hopefully we can do more stuff like that again in the future. Because that was some of the best times I've had.
SPEAKER_00I tell you what, you subscribe to our Patreon. We can go to a lot more of them shows and big weekends.
SPEAKER_01We can.
SPEAKER_00Just saying.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. Follow our Patreon.
SPEAKER_00Just a suggesting.
SPEAKER_01Follow us on everything. Doing anything we can to get over. So we finished the three-day weekend talk. It's over. Done with. Awesome time. Fun times. Fun time for everybody. Now, on to another indie promotion. KCW Shockwave, June 13th, Saturday. Not at the nest. At the rec center.
SPEAKER_00Let your county rec center.
SPEAKER_01Letcher County Rec Center.
KCW Shockwave Comes To Town
SPEAKER_00First time wrestling's been in Whitesburg since when? What, 2018, probably? Yeah, since what you said to Bobo and then I think BCW, Bluegrass Championship Wrestling, was the last wrestling show to be held in Whitesburg.
SPEAKER_01That's where.
SPEAKER_00Which was seven or eight years ago.
SPEAKER_01That was my first ever any show.
SPEAKER_00God, you was a baby. I was. What's crazy enough is I didn't even get to make it to that show. I can't remember why.
SPEAKER_01You know, I bought one of them luchador masks.
SPEAKER_00Really? It ain't it ain't the mask. It ain't our.
SPEAKER_01No, it is. It's that one. Oh my god.
SPEAKER_00It's the mask of salt.
SPEAKER_01It's the mask of salt. I'll be down.
SPEAKER_00That's the one I bought and I wore it for the whole show. That is so cool. I completely forgot it was up there. That's a relic of your start.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_00I'll be down. I never knew that. Never knew that.
SPEAKER_01I forgot.
SPEAKER_00But yes. Coming to Whitesburg, Kentucky. Kentucky Championship Wrestling. Some of the best wrestling on this side of the Mississippi and definitely in the state of Kentucky.
SPEAKER_01Oh, definitely the best wrestling in the state of Kentucky.
SPEAKER_00Coming to work or shoot's backyard.
SPEAKER_01Oh yeah.
SPEAKER_00Which leads me to something else. Wait. I just Yeah, go ahead. It ain't just KCW that's in our backyard.
SPEAKER_01Uh-huh.
SPEAKER_00Mr. Sean Cruz is going to be in our backyard. My backyard.
SPEAKER_01I'll let you take over.
SPEAKER_00You can call us all the hillbillies and hicks you want, Sean. But I didn't make the point that we're both from the South.
SPEAKER_01We are. He's from the North South.
SPEAKER_00He can call us whatever, but he's just as big as a hillbilly as we are. But he is definitely more of a Yankee, him eyes. A yuppie. I'm excited to see you, Sean. I really am. I've missed you. And I cannot wait to be the best host you've ever had. And I'll just leave it at that. Okay.
SPEAKER_01I believe you. I'll just leave it at that. I think you can I think you kill Sean Cruz, actually.
SPEAKER_00He can think all he wants.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_00He can underestimate me.
SPEAKER_01He's not the best in the world.
SPEAKER_00Your name ain't Phil.
SPEAKER_01No.
SPEAKER_00You might be the best in North Carolina. But you ain't gonna be in North Carolina, Sean. I promise you that.
SPEAKER_01Javon Evans is from North Carolina.
SPEAKER_00Well then he might not be the best in North Carolina.
SPEAKER_01Maybe. Maybe he's not even good.
SPEAKER_00Are you turning on Sean now?
SPEAKER_01Maybe. I don't know.
SPEAKER_00Oh damn. I'm starting to hate on him. You might have some double trouble, Sean. Old Heavy D ain't here to kiss you ass.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I'm I'm really starting to like not like him because of the stuff he's said about Birdo and all the other.
SPEAKER_00Not just that. Bro acting like he's gonna lift 500 pounds.
SPEAKER_01I know.
SPEAKER_00In that promo. Where's the rap at, bro? Come on. Just one. Just give me one. Prove what kind of champion you are. I mean, because what's a champion who's weak as hell? Prove that you're the best in the state. Please.
SPEAKER_01I don't think it'll happen, but you can try. If you got a problem with what we're saying, you can go up to Noah. Really.
SPEAKER_00Oh yeah. Come right up to me.
SPEAKER_01He's waiting. He's ready. Alright. Okay. Let's calm down a little bit, alright?
SPEAKER_00Oh, I'm I'm cool. It's a cucumber.
SPEAKER_01So, Kentucky Championship Wrestling, Shockwave, June 13th, Saturday, at Lecture County Rec Center. You got superstars like Sean Cruz, land in hell, Crazo.
SPEAKER_00Crazo making his KC Dub debut.
SPEAKER_01Crazo with a KCW debut. Don't know his opponent yet. Stay tuned for that because we'll be reposting that everywhere.
SPEAKER_00Oh, God, yeah. Sean Cruz. Versus the good doctor. The good doctor land in hell. Made by the decision of who?
SPEAKER_01Berto.
SPEAKER_00Once again, actually I'm on I'm on backpedal a little bit too. And I made this point on Facebook. It's a shame, but also funny. That the your main champion ain't trusted to make decisions like that. But you got someone who's out indefinitely on the IR making these kind of decisions. That that says a lot about who you are, whether you got the strap or not. Nah, am I right or am I right?
SPEAKER_01Yeah, you're right. You're right. 100%.
SPEAKER_00I mean, I'm just saying.
SPEAKER_01Maybe it's because Jonathan doesn't like him. He has every right to.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. Right. Or he has every right to not.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Same as me.
SPEAKER_01I wish I wish he would have picked Party McFly, actually. Go back to KCW Ascension and you'll see our podcast that we recorded there, and Party McFly confronted Chunkers. Yes. Go back and watch that clip, and you'll know what I'm talking about.
SPEAKER_00And per usual, me and Sean had a few choiceful words. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01I didn't with Sean.
SPEAKER_00Because I just sounds like you might know.
SPEAKER_01No, it's it's not a hate.
SPEAKER_00It's just You're just letting your emotions talk.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. It's just a little bit of frustration because I love Berto. I do too. And I love the good doctor.
SPEAKER_00And Mercy.
SPEAKER_01And Mercy, yeah. I love Mercy.
SPEAKER_00But she did get her get back.
SPEAKER_01She did.
SPEAKER_00But I'm so excited to see that match of him versus Landon Hell.
SPEAKER_01Me too. That'll be a banger match.
SPEAKER_00Oh, hell yeah.
unknownYeah.
SPEAKER_01See what I did there. Yeah. Yeah, you got Crazo, Kenny Urban.
SPEAKER_00Um Newsom should be there. Better Late Than Never, him and Kobe Carmichael.
SPEAKER_01Better Late Than Ever. Um, unfortunately, I don't think Shooter Society will be there. Because Corey has a show that day. Somewhere else. He's booked somewhere, I think. That's a bummer. Um, who else will be there? I don't know. I can't think.
SPEAKER_00Even, I mean, and we don't the only match we know is is Sean versus Landon, right?
SPEAKER_01Mm-hmm.
SPEAKER_00Oh, dude. So we're gonna have well we they we got two weeks for them to announce matches. Yeah. I think it's gonna be a stacked card.
SPEAKER_01I do too.
SPEAKER_00I really do. I'm so excited.
SPEAKER_01Or maybe they'll just surprise us with matches or something.
SPEAKER_00I'd be happy with that too. Me too. I love it. I'm just dude. I'm excited to see how it's gonna look at the new venue. So excited.
SPEAKER_01I know. I really have no clue how it's gonna look.
SPEAKER_00Actually, I will say. And I ain't gonna say who it came from, but I was informed that some crazy stuff might happen. I don't even know what it's gonna be. But my god, if I'm so excited.
SPEAKER_01I can't wait, dude. Oh my I don't know if it can be an as I think it's gonna be very close with ascension.
SPEAKER_00I think so too.
SPEAKER_01I can't I just uh I've been thinking about it all the like I've just been wanting it to come around so bad.
SPEAKER_00And it's about here, baby. It's almost here. Oh, it's about here. But what's the weekend after KC Dub?
SPEAKER_01I don't know.
SPEAKER_00Innovate expansion draft.
SPEAKER_01Oh, is that the next week?
SPEAKER_00Yes. Oh shoot. Yes. Which that just in itself innovates doing a draft a brand split. They're gonna be doing their their draft pick, the drafts that's like
Innovate Expansion Draft Brand Split
SPEAKER_00Ron SmackDown. Yes. Which I reckon I don't know if it's ever been done on the indies or it's one of the first to do a brand split. That's gonna be wild. Josh Crawford announced for the IWF side, who was the owner and creator of the PWF that innovate uh like feuded with back in the day. Remember they got inducted to the Hall of Heroes? Yeah, yeah. So that's gonna be awesome. We're gonna get to see a glimpse of what PWF was for us that didn't know what it was.
SPEAKER_01I wonder where the Illuminati's gonna go.
SPEAKER_00That's a good question. I wonder if we're gonna get split up.
SPEAKER_01Oh, shoot. Oh, that's a thing. Oh yeah. That's a thing, actually.
SPEAKER_00But more to come for that in what, two weeks?
SPEAKER_01Two weeks.
SPEAKER_00You know? There could be a lot.
SPEAKER_01No, let's say three weeks. Because KCW's in two weeks.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, you're right. About three weeks. Three weeks. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01June 20th, Saturday. I'm guessing. I'm guessing it's Saturday.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, you're right.
SPEAKER_01Innovate. Expansion.
SPEAKER_00Expansion draft.
SPEAKER_01Expansion draft. Still gonna be an awesome show, I think. Oh yeah. Most of it's gonna be drafts, I guess. But there's still gonna be matches on the card, I'm guessing.
SPEAKER_00I just can't wait to see what kind of stories get unlocked from because of the draft.
SPEAKER_01I love a draft too.
SPEAKER_00Oh yeah.
SPEAKER_01I love a wrestling draft.
SPEAKER_00So excited.
SPEAKER_01That's that's big for innovate, actually.
SPEAKER_00Like I said, that's big for an indie promotion in general, I think. It is crazy big.
SPEAKER_01It's the first time I've seen it, actually.
SPEAKER_00Me too. Like I said, it this couldn't this promo this could be the first time ever. It could. Like I don't know, I could be wrong, but I'm about positive. If not, it's one of the first.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. Um we got any more indie talk.
SPEAKER_00Honestly, I think we've indie'd our asses out. I think so too.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. Um so done with indie talk. I hate to be done with indie talk.
SPEAKER_00I could talk indies 24-7.
SPEAKER_01I love indies. But let's head on to a triple A.
SPEAKER_00South of the border.
SPEAKER_01A AAA match. One of the greatest matches we've ever seen.
SPEAKER_00An American portraying a Mexican against a German. I think he's German.
SPEAKER_01He's German.
SPEAKER_00A German portraying
AAA Mask Match Madness
SPEAKER_00American.
SPEAKER_01No Russian.
SPEAKER_00Russian.
SPEAKER_01German. I don't know.
SPEAKER_00I'm pretty sure he's German. I'm tired. A German portraying an American portraying a Mexican. In Mexico. What will probably go down as one of the greatest luchador mat matches ever with what started out as a joke.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_00And a bit.
SPEAKER_01Both of them was a joke.
SPEAKER_00Yes.
SPEAKER_01Bloodbig wasn't supposed to get over.
SPEAKER_00None of that was supposed to. None of everything that's happened since El Grande Americano was born was not supposed to happen.
SPEAKER_03No.
SPEAKER_00No. And so we finally make it to the match. See, I've not got to watch the full mass match yet, but I've saw the highlights.
SPEAKER_01I haven't either. I ain't watched the full match.
SPEAKER_00But my God, from the highlights I've seen, it looked like one hell of a match. I'd say match of the match of the year candidate for sure.
SPEAKER_01That's what everybody's saying.
SPEAKER_00Match of the Year candidate for sure. You know, uh OG Americano won the match. So original. No, no, original. I got it, I got it back. Original got unmasked. Yeah, OG won an original had to take his mask off, which ended up being Chad Gable. Who would have thought?
SPEAKER_01Nobody knew that.
SPEAKER_00I mean, that that took me. I gasped.
SPEAKER_01I thought it was uh I thought it was Titus O'Neill.
SPEAKER_00I dude, I don't I was thinking it was like Curtis Axel or something. Yeah. You know. I don't know. But I thought it was Dan Housen or something. Which what was crazy, you know, Gable, well, OG came in. No original. Damn it. Original came in being booed and then walked out being loved.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_00The promo he cut after taking the mask off was amazing.
SPEAKER_01His son took it off too. Did you see that?
SPEAKER_00Oh really?
SPEAKER_01His son, his son, like, whenever they whenever Gable took his mask off, his son like took like because he wore a mask to his his chateau and his son like took That's cool.
SPEAKER_00His mask off too. I didn't notice that. Yeah. That's cool as hell. Way to keep dude. Kid Kid gets the business. Yeah. He does. El Grande Jr. But yeah, that was from the looks of it, that was such a great match. I mean, that's that's one for the history books for Lucha Wrestling, for AAA, for WWE, hell for wrestling as a whole.
SPEAKER_01Everybody's saying that too.
SPEAKER_00I mean it, yeah. But fast forward the next day. It was clash of Italy.
SPEAKER_01Yep.
SPEAKER_00Life was very busy. I didn't get to watch the show.
SPEAKER_01I didn't either. We didn't we didn't really care much about it anyway.
SPEAKER_00True. Because it was all just about, it was just a rematch of WrestleMania.
WWE Notes And The Bloodline Talk
SPEAKER_00Yeah. WrestleMania rematches just about.
SPEAKER_01All I know is Brock hit Off Emmy with seven F5s. Which I will say watching highlights, it looked like it was pretty good.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. I mean. And Roman won the tribal combat.
SPEAKER_01Yep.
SPEAKER_00So which I think everyone knew was going to happen.
SPEAKER_01Oh yeah.
SPEAKER_00I mean. But I'm not hating what it's leading to, which we also got to acknowledge too, the new uh women's intercontinental champion.
SPEAKER_01Sol Ruka.
SPEAKER_00Which is awesome and huge for her.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, it is very big for her.
SPEAKER_00Which I also wonder what where that leaves Becky.
SPEAKER_01Hmm. It's a good question, actually.
SPEAKER_00I don't but I mean, hell, it's Becky. She's she'll probably be in the world title picture now.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I'd say.
SPEAKER_00I mean, she she she put it she put a mark on that IC title. Like she she did she did her job with it.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, she held it what, three times?
SPEAKER_00I think two or three.
SPEAKER_01I think so. Um didn't really care much about Clash in Italy. I didn't see anything on Rhea, Jade.
SPEAKER_00I didn't either. Uh hell that's really about all I know was Brock won, Ruca won.
SPEAKER_01Cody won.
SPEAKER_00Oh Diddy. So I didn't Cody didn't win. I ain't even seen like highlights of that match.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, Cody won.
SPEAKER_00But then we fast forward to Raw. Fato acknowledged Roman and is now part of the buffline. Which may I point out, and it's being the talk right now, is the bloodline angle has been running longer than the NWO angle ran in WCW. I actually saw a list. I actually saw the list of everything it's been running longer than. The bloodline angle has been running longer than Abraham Lincoln's presidency. Oh my gosh. Yes.
SPEAKER_03What?
SPEAKER_00But again, with what I saw on Raw, though, I I'm not hating it yet. Because it's it's it's a fresh bloodline. Yeah. You know? So I'm I'm keeping an open mind to it. Keeping an open mind, you sleepy, ain't you?
SPEAKER_01I am. I am sleepy. I don't know why either.
SPEAKER_00But really, that's about all there is with the WWE talk right now. I mean we're I'm not very interested in WWE right now. We're I mean we're we're in the we're in our indie. We're in the king and queen of the ring tournament right now. I know that, yeah. For night of champions. And so really that's about the big stuff going on with them right now until Night of Champions.
SPEAKER_01We're heavy on Indie right now.
SPEAKER_00We always are. Always indies all day, every day. But really, I think our last thing. Per usual, we need to do a little bit of AEW talking.
SPEAKER_01A little bit, yeah. We just want to talk a little bit about double or nothing. MJF won the world title.
SPEAKER_00Yes.
SPEAKER_01Um was it Kyle Fletcher turned heel?
SPEAKER_00Yeah, he returned and turned heel, I
AEW Double Or Nothing Check In
SPEAKER_00reckon.
SPEAKER_01That's what yeah, I did say that. Talking Sheet on the AEW's the international? International title, I think.
SPEAKER_00They got so many damn titles now. I really think so many do. They got the international, they got the continental.
SPEAKER_01There's so many of them. Which one did Orange Cassidy hold? I think Continental.
SPEAKER_00I think, yeah. I think it was the Continental.
SPEAKER_01And did I see anything else? I'm trying to think.
SPEAKER_00It was well, the Stampede match was wild already. Oh, I heard that was wild. I've I've been waiting to find it to go watch it.
SPEAKER_01Oh, um FTR or Oh yeah.
SPEAKER_00Edge uh Cope Edge Cope and whatever Christian's freaking name is. Adam Copeland and Christian Cage.
SPEAKER_01Adam Edge and Christian Cage beat FTR in an IQ match for the tag titles.
SPEAKER_00Which is honestly amazing to see. They're over. Oh god, yeah. This will be the last time they ever hold tag titles together.
SPEAKER_01Oh, 100%.
SPEAKER_00You know, but it's it's great to see it before it's over.
SPEAKER_01They'll both retire at the same time, probably.
SPEAKER_00Oh, probably. Probably have like a kind of like the Dudleys did.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. Uh FTR's. Yeah, FTR's pretty. I like FTR a lot.
SPEAKER_00I've always liked FTR, honestly. I mean, even I I've liked him since WWE. Now I will say, the first time I saw Cash Wheeler, well, what's his name? His AEW name.
SPEAKER_01I don't know.
SPEAKER_00Dax and I don't Dax Hardwood is the bald one.
SPEAKER_03Mm-hmm.
SPEAKER_00Cash Wheeler. I'm calling him calling him his WWE name. But when I first saw him do a 450, I was like, I thought this was what these guys were against. It was flippy shit. But yes. Happy to see Edge and Christian or Cope and Christian Cage with tag titles again. AEW, I mean, I don't keep up like with it like I should, but every time I see something, it's it's something, you know, good.
SPEAKER_01I wish we could keep up with AEW.
SPEAKER_00I know I really need to. I always forget that it's on HBO.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. But you have pay, so.
SPEAKER_00Well, I mean, I have HBO. And I just and I forget that you know I'll be watching a movie on a Wednesday or a TV show, and I'm like, dynamite's about over.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_00But no, uh AEW. I mean, I think AEW's people can hate on AEW all they want, but I mean every time I watch it, it's always something good.
SPEAKER_01AEW's killing WWE right now, honestly. Yeah. Their matches are so much better. I mean, their promotions are so much better. Everything's just really good with AEW right now. Even though we can't watch it. But we do keep up with all of it on social media and stuff.
SPEAKER_00Oh, yeah. At least you know with what with what's popping over there.
SPEAKER_01Any more AW talk?
SPEAKER_00I'm sure there is, but I I don't have to.
SPEAKER_01I don't I I can't think of anything. Yeah, me neither. Um just to close up on a few things. Um AMW's Super Bowl of Wrestling.
SPEAKER_00Coming up August 22nd.
SPEAKER_01August 22nd.
SPEAKER_00At the Corbin Arena.
SPEAKER_01Corbin Arena. FTR will be there. Good. Oh, match announced. Yes. FTR versus the
AMW Announcements And Big Cards Ahead
SPEAKER_01Good Brothers.
SPEAKER_00Um at the Super Bowl of Wrestling. At the Super Bowl Wrestling. Which was acknowledged too that they are tied. They're tied three to three inches. That's what I was gonna say. Matches against each other. I'm sorry, I meant to mean to steal that from you. But yeah, they are tied three to three in matches against each other. So this match at the Super Bowl of Wrestling will be the tiebreaker.
SPEAKER_01I say it's their final one.
SPEAKER_00Probably.
SPEAKER_01Because the
SPEAKER_00Oh yeah. Which we also got uh AMW Summer Bash coming up. That's that's this weekend, I believe.
SPEAKER_01It's af it's the day after.
SPEAKER_00Oh no, no, yeah, you're right. You're right. The day after June 14th coming up, Summer Bash.
SPEAKER_01Nick Namath versus Marty Clay.
SPEAKER_00That's gonna be hot. Uh Matt, the car is stacked, actually. Oh god, yeah. You got Rich Richard Holiday on there, one of the hottest freaking stars on the EV. I mean, they're they're getting people in.
SPEAKER_01You got Super Bowl wrestling, reeking Carrie Morton with KCW. You got FTR with IEW, Good Brothers with um the Luchador.
SPEAKER_00Oh yeah, the uh the Clash.
SPEAKER_01The Clash or whatever. They're ML.
SPEAKER_00I think they're MLW, Clash, and something else tag champions. I think they got like three different tag bells right now.
SPEAKER_01Um just announce Mr. or Dr. Tom Pritchard.
SPEAKER_00Is that yes, yeah. Dr. Tom Pritchard's gonna be there too. Which it also the Mortons, Carrie and Ricky. Um I feel like I'm missing someone. I feel that way too. I don't want to say and it'd be wrong.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. Well, that's that's good.
SPEAKER_00Oh yeah. But yeah, we got that coming up. Like we say, we got uh KCW Shockwave coming up June 13th in Wattsburg, Kentucky at the Electric County Rec Center.
SPEAKER_01Rip the nest.
SPEAKER_00We got in a expansion draft, June 20th. NGW uh July WrestleWars, that's coming up July 26th. Um I know there's so much more that we're missing, and if there's any that we're missing that you know about, drop them in the comments and let us know.
SPEAKER_01Send us a message, drop them in the comments, anything, dude.
SPEAKER_00I mean anything, because what we don't know about, we need to know about yeah, because we love some wrestling.
SPEAKER_01We love indie shows, we love going to indie shows.
SPEAKER_00Uh unless it's king promotions.
SPEAKER_01Unless it's king promotions, remember that. If it's king promotions, don't invite us. We're not going. Okay.
unknownOkay.
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Indie Wrestling Love And Where To Find Us
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SPEAKER_00Yes. But if you tune in to our vlogs when we get them posted, you will get to see.
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SPEAKER_01Indie shows right now is the best it's ever been.
SPEAKER_00Oh my god, the indie scene is just on fire. No matter where you go, it seems like.
SPEAKER_01Even like like KCW is on fire. Innovate is Innovate's always popping. One of the best promotions.
SPEAKER_00Innovate's always popping. I mean, you got AMW making big moves. I mean, it's the Kentucky scene alone's on fire. But then if you when you combine with the Tennessee scene as well, I don't think I don't think there's no better area to be a wrestling fan.
SPEAKER_01There's not. Definitely. If you go down to Knoxville, I mean you got NGW, JCP. I mean sometimes, sometimes JCP. Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_00But honestly. No matter where you go, just look for wrestling. Find find something you've never watched before. You know? Branch out. You know, get out of your comfort zone. Go to places you've never been before.
SPEAKER_01Look for wrestling and look for us too. Look for us while you're at shows.
SPEAKER_00Absolutely. And if we're not there, then contact us so we can be at the next one.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. Let us know if you see any shows that easy coming up that we don't know about. But just stay tuned with us. We got lots of things coming up. Big things for the worker shoot crew. But that's about it. That's all we got for today. I reckon. No, you got anything else?
SPEAKER_00Buddy, as always, God wrestling's good.
SPEAKER_01Wrestling's good. Don't be a mark today, all right? Thanks for sticking in. We'll see you next time on the Workershoot Podcast. Ring the bell.
Final Thoughts And Sign Off
SPEAKER_02I just wanted to get eight. I just love getting eight from person. Oh, I did say that, yeah.