Nailing History
Introducing "Nailing History," the podcast where two friends attempt to nail down historical facts like they're trying to assemble IKEA furniture without the manual. Join Matt and Jon (or Jon and Matt) as they stumble through the annals of time, armed with Wikipedia, Chat GPT, and a sense of reckless abandon.
In each episode, Matt and Jon pick a historical event that tickles their curiosity (and occasionally their funny bone) and dissect it like a frog in biology class—except they're the frogs, and they have no idea what they're doing. From ancient civilizations to modern mishaps, they cover it all with the finesse of a bull in a china shop.
But wait, there's more! In between butchering historical names and dates, Matt and Jon take a break to explore the intersection of history and pop culture. Ever wondered if Cleopatra would have been a TikTok sensation? Yeah, neither have they, but that won't stop them from imagining it in excruciating detail.
So grab your popcorn and prepare to laugh, cringe, and possibly learn something (though don't hold your breath). With Matt and Jon leading the charge, "Nailing History" is the only podcast where you're guaranteed to leave scratching your head and questioning everything you thought you knew about the past. After all, who needs a PhD when you've got two clueless buddies and a microphone?
Nailing History
130 Laughs, Lag, and Legendary Misadventures: Our Year in Review
Ever wondered what Mussolini and Hitler have in common with a good laugh? Join us on a whimsical trip down memory lane as we recount the year-long journey of the Nailing History Podcast. From our hilariously awkward first recording to the notorious internet mishaps that plagued John's connection, we’ve had our fair share of growing pains. Toss in some peculiar historical anecdotes, like the infamous "wee-wee" tales, and you have a recipe for a podcast that’s equal parts chaotic and charming.
Take a front-row seat as we recount memorable field trips and museum escapades, from Harper's Ferry to the Museum of the American Revolution. These adventures brought unexpected hilarity, like the anticlimactic tent exhibit, and left us dreaming of future listener-led trips. Our antics don't just stop at history; our attempts at movie reviews, like the infamous Al Pacino flick, added another comedic layer to our exploration of entertainment.
As we wrap up this milestone year with 35 episodes and over 2,000 minutes of content, we're filled with gratitude for listeners like you. We’ve welcomed amazing guests such as Emily M, who helped us dive deep into iconic moments like the OJ Simpson trial. Looking ahead, we're excited to embrace more organic content, host new faces, and continue this wild, historical ride. A heartfelt thanks to our audience and special guests for fueling our passion and making this journey unforgettable—stay curious, and may your holiday season be as joyful as our escapades!
Thank you. All right, everybody. Welcome to another episode of the Nailing History Podcast. That extended version of the theme song goes out to a special fan of ours, andrew S, who says how much he loves how long we play it and how we talk about how long we play it every episode. So that goes out to him. I'm here with John. We're in studio here. John is also the co-host of the show. If you guys weren't aware, it's the two of us Still co-hosting guys, welcome back for another episode.
Speaker 1:I'm excited to be in studio for the last show of the year. We really couldn't have it any other way. Do like every podcast, like every other podcast from I understand or you know, kind of what I want to do, I guess, is put together a best of but best of moment, just a year in review. Basically, I know it's not a full year that we've done. We started this thing back in, I think, march or february. I guess I should have researched that, yeah, but but I think our first, our first episode, was published on March 12th.
Speaker 2:March 12th, 2024.
Speaker 1:And um, but the our first attempt of recording went back into February, beginning of February, um, where we really put a, we really tried to. It was our first effort and I don't know I mean a lot of our fans. When they heard our first published episode they might have said, wow, these guys don't know what they're doing. But they didn't.
Speaker 2:They had no clue how much trial and error went on before that there's a lot of testing going and yeah, we, uh, we saved it, though we have our first effort. Matt played it for me the other day, kind of getting prepared for this episode, and I don't know if he's got it queued up or not, but maybe we could I do of course I prepared, which is something, so let's just give the fans a little sneak peek into the first attempt of the nailing history podcast.
Speaker 1:This does get me All right. Welcome to the first episode of the Nailing History Podcast. This is your host, matt, and I'm here with my co-host, aka the amateur history enthusiast, john Nice, to meet you.
Speaker 2:That's our first one.
Speaker 1:We're not meeting for the first time, in case our listeners are wondering. So that's pretty much how it started. I know you could really tell. You did a little work on our delivery a little bit and, uh, my sound effects finger was, that was a hot trigger. I had a hot trigger on the sound effects. I would say, yeah, and I was. I was caught flat footed, for sure. I mean, we talked about it, talked about it before we put the record button. We're like, all right, this is what we'reed for sure. I mean, we talked about it, talked about it before we hit the record button. We're like all right, this is what we're going to do, let's start to prepare for it. You know, blah, blah, blah. And then, as soon as the record light turned red on my control board, john froze like an icicle on Christmas morning.
Speaker 2:We got in our heads a lot, so I think that day John got in his head a lot. Well morning, we got in our heads a lot. So I think that day john got in his head a lot. Well, we were gonna go, I think matt so actually it was all matt came down to my house and we were gonna do what we're gonna record there.
Speaker 1:We were really excited for it. I said to you in the for the premise of the episode from the for the show, I said what is one thing that you want the general american to know about history? And you said you wanted them to know that the states the states made the federal government, not the other way around.
Speaker 1:So he went on so we basically went in. He went on a tire, so that was our first attempt. We stopped that and then we recorded like a 50, 50 some minute long podcast where it was dry. I think I still still have it. Nobody wants to hear it. It was horrible. So then we stepped back and punted, said let's soak this in, let's see what direction we want to take this in. So what happened was then we came back a month later with an idea. Well, we didn't have an idea. John said that he had an idea and I think our fans know the basic premise of how this podcast all got started. But I got a little clip here to talk about that. Let's see if we get that. Okay. So you want to make a. So you want to make a. So you want to make a deck of cards like a normal deck of cards, like a casino card, but I don't know what. Even, yeah, playing cards, playing cards.
Speaker 2:It's just to use as a backstop, but you have no idea what we're doing with it.
Speaker 1:Then we could play Pinnacle, apparently, maybe go fish.
Speaker 2:I was thinking Texas Hold'em and then we could do a thing where you deal out cards and then you have your hand and then you have the people shown and then, while they're being shown, we could say something interesting about them, or cool, or noteworthy, or have a discussion you wanna you wanna have a podcast with no video, where we play Texas Hold'em and people just listen to us playing Texas Hold'em and people just listen to us playing Texas.
Speaker 4:Hold'em with cards.
Speaker 1:So, needless to say, it was not a very well thought out first plan of attack for a podcast where John was adamant on not having video. It didn't stop me.
Speaker 2:If I recall, and as my fiance would recall, I spent probably five hours designing cards using Adobe Reader, pdf Editor, whatever, making these digital cards, only to find out, with the help of one of our top fans, that they already existed so what john's getting to.
Speaker 1:we did ask for some uh input for, uh, our favorite moments, for favorite moments and one of a big fan, big fan of the show, someone who actually was on the show, lauren G, said that this was her favorite moment. So the moment where we realized that John's idea may not have been so original. The biggest thing, the biggest revelation that we've had since the first episode, is that the pack of cards that John's great idea was based upon has already been done. We were given the. We were giving a link immediately from one of our fellow listeners, from Amazon he's, I believe he sent the link with a followup saying do you guys do any research for this show, which is a pretty not really. So you know, we're just trying to talk, do a little bit of research and try to just use the knowledge that we already have to just start a conversation. So always fact check us If there's anything to prove that point is that these cards already existed but cause?
Speaker 2:we like that. Well, that shows engagement and we really appreciate that. Even if you're going to take the, you know, take it out and give us grief about it. We appreciate the engagement because they that fan didn't have to do that google search to give us crap so you know that, uh, as you can see, nothing's really changed in the podcast.
Speaker 1:I'd say maybe our preparation has gotten a little bit, uh, better. Um, I still say definitely question everything that we talk about on this podcast and we would love the input if we are wrong about anything. But Still ask for your fact checking. The response of we're just going to use our knowledge and not do much research has kind of backfired on us in the past. We've had some low lights throughout the year, so we've tried to improve on that and so, yeah, that's pretty much it.
Speaker 1:That was the origin. I mean, I don't know if anyone remembers that's kind of how this thing got started. Just like quick, I just want to. We reference this a lot when we talk, so I just want to say it Get our two teams together and now, after all this time, maybe we can just have a brief discussion of who we think actually has the better cards and have a little bit of a different viewpoint. After all this time we've been to museums, we've gone through stuff this day in history, all this stuff we kind of have learned throughout the year. So let's see if anything has changed from our opinions, of our picks. So my picks, my aces, were George Washington and Benjamin Franklin. I still stand by them. My kings were John Adams and John Hancock, which I got some grief on the John Hancock, but I think you've come around a bit since.
Speaker 2:I like him. I like him in large part because he was responsible for giving a commission or signing a commission for one of my top cards, jack to do his Cachusco.
Speaker 1:Well, don't wait until I tell you the Jacks. But yes, okay.
Speaker 2:So I did come around to him.
Speaker 1:He's a good king. I like him. So now, john, your aces were Thomas Jefferson and Alexander Hamilton, which is fine, we're not fans of. Alexander Hamilton, but you got to give him the ace. Stand by Kings were James Madison and Patrick Henry. I don't like either of those, to be honest, for a king.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think Madison, in hindsight, was a little too flip-floppy on a few things. I didn't really know where he stood. He was one way one year and another day, another year.
Speaker 1:We'll have to listen back and see if I believe, I told you that when you picked him.
Speaker 2:It's quite possible. And Patrick Henry? I think he was just too much of a heavyweight in his own state alone. I believe I said that too.
Speaker 1:So you're saying I'm right.
Speaker 2:You're on this one.
Speaker 1:I'll give it to you For Queens, which we just did the Women of the American Revolution. I did Abigail Adams and Molly Pitcher. I like those. You know they're two heavy hitters, john. You're Queens. Deborah Sampson and Mercy Otis Warren. Deborah Sampson and Mercy Otis Warren. Deborah Sampson's cool. She's the woman who dressed up like a man to collect a pension, and Mercy Otis Warren was the one who wrote the history book on the American Revolution. That's a fitting pick for you, I would say.
Speaker 2:I'd say so yeah.
Speaker 1:And my jacks were Nathaniel Green and John Jay. I know where you stand on Johnny Jay.
Speaker 4:That's a drop.
Speaker 1:I mean he's a little high. I feel like he's up there in just his impact, positive or negative. We learned a little bit about him being a free tradesman, eh, with the British, yeah, which is he kind of bent over for the British though, which you know I don't like, but I think he just made a big.
Speaker 2:Federalist paper. Yeah, you can keep. So he was a. He was a Jack, yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, your Jacks were Roger Sherman and Taduz K Kustusko.
Speaker 2:I mean, obviously you could choose. I can't put him in king status, but I got to stand by him and I think I've brought you on board to him as well.
Speaker 1:I think Tadouz Kustusko might be my version of John Hancock.
Speaker 2:You've come around to him.
Speaker 1:I think I've come around to him. I think I've come around to him. I think you said it was such a stretch for me to pick John Hancock as a king, and I said that.
Speaker 2:Kachushko.
Speaker 1:Yeah, now, we've talked about this in the past too. I think I don't think he qualifies as a founding father. Still, I mean, this was a purpose for the founding fathers. I just don't know if he qualifies as a founding father.
Speaker 2:Let me I can't stand for that. I still don't buy it. He is the reason we won, partly the reason we won the Revolutionary War.
Speaker 1:So was Nathaniel Green.
Speaker 2:Well, he was his engineer, I don't know. Just because he didn't stay around after the battle, does that make you any less of a fan?
Speaker 1:What I like about Tadeusz Kaczusko is that you like him so much and he is so much like me, so I like that about him.
Speaker 2:Your Polish is very good.
Speaker 1:So yeah, so that was fun. I remember that that was a good time, but time was Spent so much time on these cards. Time was really ticking away, though we were like, oh my God, we already have these cards done. How much longer can we do this? We're getting pressure from the fans saying you got to get yourself out of the 18th century. I'm sick of it. And we don't know where we're going with the podcast. But it we don't know, and we don't know where we're going with the podcast.
Speaker 2:Um so, but like we just keep kept progressing, I think you know we kind of got into a little bit of a wave of some uh, this week in histories I think we wanted to tie it into something not current but yeah, by having it at least relate to something that you know what happened this day 100 years ago, 200 years ago just to make it more present, as opposed to just randomly talking about playing cards and yeah, and it kind of gave us a chance to go around timelines and and places in history.
Speaker 1:So, um, it was fun. It was fun. I mean, um, just obviously we can't go through everything, but we have, John and I got together and we put a list of some. We put a list of some of the highlights that we think were our favorite moments. I was telling John today. I said you know how when somebody says Nothing makes you feel less exciting. Less interesting is when somebody asks you for an interesting fact about yourself. Well, I certainly felt that way where it's like man, nothing makes you feel like you have less hits of a podcast than trying to find the hits of the show.
Speaker 2:And I will say we had some, but I chuckle at every time. Every top one we want to talk about it brought a chuckle to me.
Speaker 1:We've had some hiccups. I think everyone's aware of the technical difficulties that we've run in from time to time, be it John's internet. I remember one time we were recording and the power just went out of my apartment for no reason, and that was it. We lost that whole. We lost the whole thing entirely. Nothing saved. But probably one of the biggest and most frustrating things was using this service called Descript.
Speaker 2:I think the relationship between Descript and Squadcast has been unceremoniously terminated.
Speaker 1:We've had a bit of an issue. You kind of have to backdoor your way into Squadcast now through Descript. It's very bizarre. We've had so many hiccups that I can't even name them all. Lost episodes, john's stuff not uploading, me having to. I always record with a backup, just so many things and it's fun, though it gives a hard time. John finally. And then, just as an update, john finally updated. He got, he got lightning fast internet down in maryland and uh, I think we've recorded one or two episodes with that.
Speaker 2:We haven't had any issues yet, so it's been great. So so yeah, so that's uh you know, that's, that's what.
Speaker 1:So let's just get into, let's just go through. Let's just go through a couple here. One of my favorites and it's just kind of been a stupid goofy running theme since one of the year in, since one of our this Week in Histories was Mussolini the execution of what's his first name, benito Mussolini. The execution of what's his first name, benito. Mussolini and you know, it's just here, we'll just, I'll just get. I think this is the first. Let me, let me make sure that this is the first one here.
Speaker 2:they basically took his body and his mistress. They killed both of them at the same time, put them like seven bullets in, both of them submachine gun. They drove them to a square in Milan and basically just dumped their bodies in the middle of this plaza, so like all the public was there, and then a mob kind of started forming and people were like peeing on them and like throwing food on them and like spitting on them and like kicking his face in.
Speaker 2:I mean it was bad. I mean there's some, you know I won't. There's some. It's a PG podcast, but if you just go on like the, even on the Wikipedia page it showed like his body in the examiners.
Speaker 1:Did they see his ding-a-ling? Probably but not in the pictures they have.
Speaker 2:I was worried about that would be my guess.
Speaker 1:So then, like he was burned immediately, but they say that word had gotten to him, that how, how muslim he died and was like he's like I ain't happening to me.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I don't want to be.
Speaker 1:That's pretty nuts. Yeah, I bet that's what happened. For sure he didn't want them to see his little thingy. So there's the. So that's kind of the, the premise of what's going on then I guess the next week, so that. So that was one week of talking about benito mussolini, but then I think, the next this week in history that we did, you picked another benito mussolini story and this was about the blood pact between between, uh, germany and italy, and basically what we gathered was that the reason for the blood pact was so that Hitler, they wanted to see Hitler's wee, wee, they became wee wee bros.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so just let me do uncover that this reason, one of that, one of the call out of pact of blood, was they wanted to make that agreement that if either one of them was captured or killed by the enemy, that the other one, uh, would be see to it that their wee wee was not exposed, and they would in fact have themselves burned, a lot burned.
Speaker 1:I actually did some research. That was the brother plaqued. I did do some research and Hitler, his junk was all messed up, right so that was.
Speaker 2:That's kind of just been a running theme I'll just drop that in. Even in casual conversation outside of the outside of the, yeah.
Speaker 1:So what I wanted to do I did real quick a little compilation of, of our we. We talk throughout the, throughout the, throughout the podcast.
Speaker 2:Everyone saw Mussolini's wee-wee.
Speaker 1:Mussolini had his wee-wee exposed the wee-wee agreement, as we call it the wee-wee agreement. We learned how Hitler was scared for people to see his wee-wee when he got killed. No mustache probably.
Speaker 2:Mustache is probably very small.
Speaker 1:Along with his wee-wee Butt naked wee-wee show. This is like over broadcast yeah, like showing their wee-wee Basically be showing everyone their wee-wee, show their wee-wee.
Speaker 2:But your wee-wee is still showing, sticking their wee wee, but your wee wee still shows sticking a bamboo, shoot up your wee, wee.
Speaker 1:I just think if you had like a crowd of people laughing at somebody's wee wee in front of everybody unless they have a nice wee wee we'll just start with showing their wee wee. Everybody will see your little wee-wee.
Speaker 2:You will get the Mussolini treatment, oh boy.
Speaker 1:I just thought that was pretty funny to put that together. Oh boy, it's pretty good when you put them all together in one little thing. It doesn't sound as mature. I feel like we talked about it so much. It's pretty good when you put them all together in one little thing.
Speaker 2:It doesn't sound as mature. I feel like we talked about it so much. Actually, when I hear I know there was a recent thing I think Biden just commuted a bunch of sentences and I'm thinking, oh no, now they're not going to have their wee-wee show. I feel like we talked about it so much. I thought that was actually capital punishment. At this point in our country I was like, oh right, oh no, they kill people. They don't show their wee-wees. That's not a thing yet.
Speaker 1:I mean I can't man. Anytime you talk about Hitler or Mussolini, I mean, the first thing I think about is their wee-wee, like it being exposed.
Speaker 2:Not like an intimate setting, obviously Exposed to the public, of course.
Speaker 1:So I hope the fans think the same way. I hope, if I just hope that if one thing that people take away from this podcast is that if anyone were to ever bring up Hitler, mussolini, the first thing you talk about is one Hitler's junk was all messed up and to Mussolini's we was exposed when he died, and Stalin we don't.
Speaker 2:We're not sure. I think he would have been fine shit being shown. But he was the man of steel. Maybe didn't care that much, he was out of the pack. They had that pack and then they the robentroff packed and I think maybe hitler said I have photos of your wee wee. And then stalin got really upset with him and then that's possible one another?
Speaker 1:um, yeah, I mean um, let's see what else we got here. I one of my favorite, one of my favorite episodes that we did was the? Um was the uh after uh trump. The former president trump, now president-elect trump was assassinated, shot and attempted to say yeah sorry attempted assassination. We went through some of the other assassinations and assassination attempts in history that you may not have heard of.
Speaker 2:That was one of my favorites.
Speaker 1:I know we had a trivia moment last week. John wasn't there, but we had a trivia moment where I thought it was going to come into play. Long story short, but the people who we were playing with Actually I was with four people, three other people, there's four of us total Two of them avid listeners knew what I was talking about. One of them although a guest on the show, not as much of a listener, I think he knows who he is Didn't know that William McKinley was assassinated. Really Did not know. So that was so, that was so. It was pretty cool, pretty cool moment.
Speaker 5:You know you always love that. That's kind of what we do this for.
Speaker 1:Well, we'll get into. We won't get into that. But one of our favorite guy, one of our favorite assassins, um was a not bought guy by the name of Charles Gouteau.
Speaker 2:Well, he would say he wasn't an assassin.
Speaker 1:That's true. Well, we'll get to that. So let's just listen to what we had to say about Mr Gouteau, a little bit of his post-arrest behavior.
Speaker 2:He didn't do well, dictated an autobiography to the New York Herald, ending it with a personal ad for a nice Christian lady under 30.
Speaker 1:He was totally oblivious After he got arrested yeah.
Speaker 2:I want to like wait a court. This guy, he's like saying, like he's, like he's shooting his shot, like given his like given, like a dating profile shout out out there he received ample media attention during his trial for his bizarre behavior, including constantly insulting his defense team, formatting his testimony, epic poems which he recited at length and soliciting legal advice from random spectators in the audience via past notes I mean this guy, I he's a loser, but he sounds pretty awesome I don't think there used to be a movie about I watched all documentary about this guy there should be a
Speaker 1:movie about this guy dude this is funny to me, I don't know, insulting his own defense team, talking in poems like a totally oblivious to the american public's outrage and hatred of him, even after he was almost killed twice yeah hey, sometimes ignorance is bliss, you gotta say, and even he said, garfield was killed not by him, but by medical malpractice.
Speaker 2:So even he called it like he saw it?
Speaker 4:No, he didn't.
Speaker 2:It says, quote I deny the killing. If your honor please, we admit the shooting. So he also spoke in the third person, meaning he had other voices in his head. Under the felony murder rule, this guy freaking rules, dude.
Speaker 1:I love this guy. I got to be honest. I mean it's not cool, but man, that's awesome. This guy's a freaking pistol.
Speaker 2:Seriously, famously danced his way up to the gallows and waved at the audience, shook his hands with his executioner and, as a last request, recited a poem that he had written called, quote, I'm going to the Lordy. He requested an orchestra to play as he sang the poem. It was denied, as per request, with the executioner Gatteau signaled that he was ready to die by dropping the paper.
Speaker 1:You see what we're missing by having these federal death penalty people being commuted. I mean we're missing some quality entertainment here. Also not having the executions public. We're missing a quality entertainment here Also not having the executions public.
Speaker 2:We're missing a lot. Yeah, I feel like a lot more people would want to be interested in capital crime if you told them you had a break. In doing it, you had a break dance up to the gallow you had a break dance into the Capital punishment you mean not capital crime.
Speaker 1:If you're interested in the capital crime, that would mean you're interested in committing the crime.
Speaker 2:That's the crime that gives you the capital punishment. But if you had to break dance into your chair, I just feel like he was calling America's bluff.
Speaker 1:He's like fine, if you want to kill me, I'm just going to take it all lighthearted, I'm not going to take this seriously. I think he felt like if he was somber about it and was upset and everything, I think he would maybe feel as though the American public won and that James Garfield I think he was just pissed.
Speaker 4:He didn't get a job. Yeah, he was mad at James.
Speaker 1:Garfield. He was mad at James Garfield because he didn't get a job Right. Yeah, that's a pretty good one. I like that one. That was a fun one. This is a little bit of a touchy subject in the history of the podcast. I think this was another this Week in History. John had a. His. This Week in History was an event that happened during the Civil War with a. I guess you could consider him a. Some might say that this was a controversial hero of the Civil War. It was about a man named Nathan Bedford Forrest and he got himself into a little hot water in. Where was this?
Speaker 2:Tennessee.
Speaker 1:You don't remember what battle or anything the Battle of Shiloh, I think that's what it was. Anyway, john was nice enough to spend all the time to type into chat GPT for them to create a recall of the events that happened on this day in the voice of Tony Montana from the movie Scarface.
Speaker 2:Scarface. I don't know if you wanted me to read it. We don't have to do it. Read it All right, so check this out.
Speaker 1:I do love your Scarface.
Speaker 2:I love this water running in the back. Tony Montana See earlier in the battle, forrest is leading his men into the fray, charging ahead like a madman like me, tony Mantagna. But then, out of nowhere, bam, a bullet comes whizzing past, hitting Forrest square in the back. Now most guys would drop like a sack of potatoes, right, but not Forrest. Nah, he's made of tougher stuff Big cojones. The bullet it doesn't kill him, but it lodged right in his spine.
Speaker 4:I ad-libbed some of it.
Speaker 2:Shock waves of pain to his body. I did Would be done for, but not for us. He's got this insane willpower, this determination to keep on fighting, no matter what, like me, tony Montana, montana. And what does he do? He pushes through the pain, keeps leading his men, and when he sees that Union soldier, he ain't about to let his little thing, like a bullet in his spine, slow him down. He picks him up, uses him as a human shield, like a badass of hell.
Speaker 2:That's the kind of stuff the cojones you need when you're dealing with that. And that's what Bedford Forrest did to Shiloh, and he said hello to all his little friends, as he had a mangled Union soldier by his side. Is that it?
Speaker 1:That's it. That was good man. I had to mute myself, so yeah, that was fun. I do remember that that was good. That was good. I don't know why you can't say Tony Montana, but Tony Montaigne makes it even funnier.
Speaker 2:Isn't that the water boy?
Speaker 1:Yeah, joe Montana instead of Joe Montana. Oh, this was probably. So. Our most popular episode, our biggest hit of an episode of the year, was when we had a guest host, emily M, come on and we talked about the infamous OJ Simpson alleged murderer or can you even say that Because he was found not guilty, but then he was found guilty in a civil trial.
Speaker 2:I think as long as there's air.
Speaker 1:quotes let's just say the hijinks that OJ was up to in the early 90s. We had a four-part episode about it and the first part of that was our most highly downloaded episode. I think we have 87 downloads of that one, which is Wow. I remember that day when we were just. Every time I checked my phone it was more and more downloads every time. I couldn't believe it.
Speaker 2:Really got the word out on that one.
Speaker 1:So I picked, I think, emily M. I think this was her favorite moment. When we first released it, she said like, oh, this is my favorite moment. I thought and I think a lot of people thought this was. I thought this was going to be the moment that we could look at in a year from now and say this is what got us to 10,000 listeners an episode. So let's listen to this real quick.
Speaker 5:And OJ said her dress was inappropriate and how's she gonna dress when she's a grandma? This is how she's dressing now. Kato feels really awkward and says can I go use the jacuzzi? That's how he ended that conversation. And oj was like okay, use the jacuzzi. He had never used it before. That was the first time he'd ever used it.
Speaker 4:Oh man, yeah, tight dress. Hey, you mind if I use the jacuzzi.
Speaker 1:Might get a little soaking in the jacuzzi. Hey man, you're gonna make.
Speaker 2:You're gonna make a great grandma. No, he's talking to OJ. You could be my grandma any day.
Speaker 1:I don't even know, did he talk like that? I just assume he's like a so Cal, like Well, he's like a SoCal. Well, he's from Wisconsin. Oh, yeah, right.
Speaker 3:He might grab my day.
Speaker 1:That conversation definitely went way. It wasn't. That's not all that was said. I feel like he's like what do you mean? My grandma wears a tight dress.
Speaker 4:Dude, wake up, it's the 90s.
Speaker 1:Oh boy. So yeah, I mean that was one of the many highlights of the pretty much the Kato and OJ side, like that was the best part. I mean going to McDonald's the jacuzzi, the jacuzzi, going to McDonald's the one with the electrical host, him being the person that basically got OJ caught for messing up his timeline getting a Big Mac.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he didn't get it. He got filet of fish, I think, yeah that's. But like OJ, like got a Big Mac and ate it in like two bites. Kato said that's what. Like that was what really threw him off for the whole night. Well, you see him behaving any different, kato. Well, he ate a Big Mac in two bites, but I know there was some late for a date. Late for a date was another quality like little snippet from there.
Speaker 1:That was Nicole's license plate number. That was a good one. We think that that might have been why it was because she was late for.
Speaker 2:She will never be late for a date again.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he's like I forget how we we've twisted that around, where it was like a negative thing on her, where my, where emily m thought it was cute. We thought it was more of like a warning shot warned, fairly fair warning. If you're late for a date, like the car I bought you, yeah, things happen these will happen uh, the whole, the whole situation, with her making fun of him because he can't swim and he's going to be a frog man or something. Wasn't that a whole thing down in cabo? Yeah?
Speaker 2:show got canceled before it even got aired. Yeah, pilot episode, that was great. Where do we end with that? We didn't even end up getting to the trial, right.
Speaker 1:No, we're kind of holding off on the trial We'll have to get. I think we'll have to do to popular demand I think most people want. Based on our episode download trend, it seems like most people want Emily and back on the show. I mean there's some other things like. I mean I don't know if I need to play any clips from these, but we had some fun times, some field trips, some nailing history field trips. I think maybe one of these days we were kind of talking, maybe we could kind of put together an organized field trip charge for it, maybe make some money on it. Charge admission we could just take them around. Everyone can experience the lack of planning that john does and, uh, the headaches that come along with it.
Speaker 2:Top six fans. First six fans, top six entrance get 50 discount. We'll put that well. You can cash that check today. Anyone signs up today?
Speaker 1:yeah, sending us a text and like and we'll just, um, yeah, first six people to send us a text gets 50 off of a trip to some, wherever we decide it would be interesting at that time, and we'll take you guys around and act like we're the experts on something and we're not. So, oh, that'd be kind of fun, I mean john. So I the there's pretty much three field trips that we went on. So we went to harper's ferry to check out john brown and all of his nonsense down there the raid that terrorist.
Speaker 1:Um, then we have the american the, the. What is it? The museum of the american revolution is that the official that was back in march april april. That was right around easter, and then we went to the tadeusz kuszczuszko Museum. We're closed for this season, so how would you rank those in terms of overall entertainment factor?
Speaker 2:Oh man, there are some highlights to all three for sure. Dead Fish Hands was great from the American Museum, the American Revolution.
Speaker 1:That tent escapade. Yeah, yeah, I got actually a clip here. You want to? You want to hear? You want to hear our first, please, our first discussion of the tent. Anyway, it was dumb and it was like five minutes long. And then, with no build-up whatsoever at all, they lift the screen, the screen automatically retracts and, uh, there it is, the tent, and it's like it's like the music, it's like oh, and like this light show, and like you can kind of see inside of it. To some point I was like, is this still a video? Like I was kind of confused and no, there was no. Like oh, this is where this was. It was just like a bunch of like light show and this heavenly music coming from wherever, and then couldn't take any pictures, don't forget. And then you know, that was it. I don't know if we were supposed to be impressed with it or what. You couldn't go up to it, you couldn't see it, it was behind glass and all that it was was a freaking piece of canvas.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:The fact that like this is just like so. Oh man, it was such a let down.
Speaker 2:I think Washington would be upset with the cult of personality that the museum had of him and other people but him in particular, especially because he was a disinterested statesman who did things for duty, and when he served his duty he went back to his farm. They called him out to be president. He served his duty again. Like the guy was duty bound.
Speaker 1:I just had to leave that. I know like it. You know, I just had to leave that in there because of how many times now will John talk about how George Washington was duty bound? Are you starting to see a trend, at least?
Speaker 2:We probably could splice up a little something.
Speaker 4:Maybe, we'll get a little, but yeah, so that was good, I mean that was the most disappointing.
Speaker 1:I mean, I think we went into that with high hopes. I think that was our issue with that museum.
Speaker 2:They only needed was a silhouette. They could have brought the lights up. I was thinking about this Bring the lights up and then just have a silhouette of him in the tent. Yeah, like that's the cast, like the contract. Oh, here's the bedroom.
Speaker 1:Oh, here's the bedroom, here's where he did this. He would write letters. There's nothing. They spent so much time on the movie where they basically just blasted Robert E Lee for having it.
Speaker 2:Then it wound up in Robert E Lee's family. Yeah, because they were related. Yeah, it was a relation.
Speaker 1:It was pretty wild. I mean, that was so disappointing and I really truly Because it was so stupid that they were like you can't take pictures because the flash will ruin the fabric, the canvas, but then they're flashing lights on it for the show. I truly think they didn't want people taking pictures so that other people would see how lame it is they would lose out on that money.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we just wouldn't go. Yeah, it was the highlight of the museum and for like it's still, there.
Speaker 1:If anyone wants to go see it. It's there till february 2025.
Speaker 2:I think that tent that day was a highlight. Harper's Ferry was a good time. Parking was great. Parking was classic. What did we do? Walking around Harper's Ferry was cool. It was a really pretty day. We went on a hike. That was nice. You know, I really wish we saw a little more consideration from some of the attendees of the National Park Hat wearers and such, and yeah, just you know, I think we learned a valuable lesson in just being considerate. That day especially was hot.
Speaker 1:I think it was July, it was really hot out, because everyone was just kind of on edge. I think it was June, actually I don't know if it was July yet it was the beginning of the summer it was hot. It was hot.
Speaker 2:It. It was hot, it was hot, it was hot. That was fun though. And then, yeah, to do Skachusko. I think seeing that National Park Ranger.
Speaker 1:Yeah, the little mini me park ranger on our way to the smallest national park. That was classic. It was fun talking to those people, I mean the people, the park rangers in there. It was funny to hear they're like yeah, I don't, it's it's an easy day.
Speaker 2:It's an easy day, it's cute it's a cute.
Speaker 1:We got their kachusko day. I don't know I'm hungover, I just, you know, enjoy, basically it's funny. Um, and I just I mean, I thought the kachusko museum was just. I don't think I was pleasantly surprised because I kind of exactly how I pictured it, but it was cool to learn about that guy. It was interesting. That was an interesting day. I got to give it to John. It was a bit of a One of the few times where I'm like wrong about something or I'll at least admit it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'm wrong a lot. I try to, especially if I'm wrong about something. Or I'll at least admit it. Yeah, I'm wrong a lot. I try to, especially if I'm wrong about opinion, opinion being wrong, opinion based. I'm not good at admitting that I'm wrong, so I did for that one because I thought that you know I got him up to being a 10 in your, in your, in your cards, in your deck of cards I think so.
Speaker 1:I think I said he wasn't a phase, so I gotta tip myself my cap for that one. We did my citizenship test. Well, no, so the citizenship test, I got a 72 out of a 100, which would have passed me. C's get degrees.
Speaker 2:Passports.
Speaker 1:You didn't think I was going to pass but I did. I did poor in in government but I did okay and everything else um, we had. And then, you know, in the same vein, we had a trivia showdown. Mark c hosted us a trivia showdown where we went through um, the history channel trivia game and there were a couple, there were a couple good questions on there. I think I think one. I'll just I'll play a couple of them here, a couple of my favorites here the noble clans Minamoto and Tyra clash TARA.
Speaker 2:Minamoto and Tara. So just use your racism. Guess Minamoto and Tara.
Speaker 1:So just use your racism to see what you can guess.
Speaker 2:Minamoto and Tayara.
Speaker 1:I don't know, I guess South Africa.
Speaker 2:Japan.
Speaker 3:Yeah, they're Asian names, were they?
Speaker 2:Minamoto, you pronounced them're Asian names. Obviously Were they Well you didn't Minamoto, oh you pronounced them wrong.
Speaker 1:You said oh Minamoto, oh, what the?
Speaker 3:Oh, what the?
Speaker 2:Minamoto. I washed my hands.
Speaker 1:You led me astray on that. How did you pronounce Minamoto? Minamoto, I was thinking like Minamoto. Oh, I guess that's Chinese. I was thinking tribal.
Speaker 3:You didn't do it right.
Speaker 1:Get a little heated there. You remember that one. I remember being completely broadside. I thought it was definitely an African nation. I did not understand the question, pretty funny. And then one John, when we did our little pre-show for this one John. He just loves how wrong I was on this answer and he wanted me to bring this up again. Closest to Africa. What US state?
Speaker 3:is closest to Africa.
Speaker 1:I want to say my guess is North Carolina.
Speaker 3:What. How can North Carolina be closest to Africa?
Speaker 1:I feel like North Carolina is the furthest out west or east, isn't it? No?
Speaker 2:it's not even close what are you talking about?
Speaker 1:It's pretty far it bulges out, doesn't it? No, it's not even close. What are you talking about? It's pretty far it bulges out, doesn't it? No, yeah, it does.
Speaker 3:It's not the US bulges out, I'm done with it. That's a terrible guess.
Speaker 1:So the answer was Maine. John got it right. I do want to read I guess I read this on air, but I'll read it again Fan mail that we got. Thought I'd listen to John and stay curious. Regarding the North Carolina answer, I can confirm that Quadi Head, Maine, is 3,154 miles from Morocco, making it the closest state to Africa. Cape Hatteras, North Carolina, is 3,625 miles from Morocco. It's not even the closest state below the Mason-Dixon line. Nice try, Matt Signed, Dick Pepperfield.
Speaker 2:I'm looking at a map. The whole state of New Jersey is further east than North.
Speaker 1:Carolina.
Speaker 3:I don't know.
Speaker 1:I just had this picture that there's a big hump around North Carolina and I just thought I still go by. There's no way. It's like the argument. I cut it. I cut off the whole. I cut off the, the rest of the argument that we had. But, like my thought was, the you had, the you have from Maine, you also have to go South.
Speaker 2:You do have to go South, but if the very tip of Morocco, for instance, like that's pretty high up, that's basically europe, is it? Yeah, southern spain, okay straight to gibraltar.
Speaker 1:Well, I don't know my geography, which I think was how I ended that quote that I cut a little short, for here was I told you, I think geography so, and I do, I still had you said florida, you wouldn't got as roasted you think?
Speaker 2:yeah, because it's a peninsula, it's jetting out and it actually on a map. Now that I don't know if it's a scale, it does look. It could be pretty close to senegal, but yeah, that was a highlight.
Speaker 1:That was a highlight for john because I was wrong, so correct. Um, I think that I mean, you know, I'm sure, I'm sure we're missing some highlights here and there.
Speaker 2:I hope we are because there's not that many Still sending us a text.
Speaker 1:Man, yeah, we did ask for it. We asked for input and we got none, so that's what we were stuck to, another week left in the 2020-2024. Which, speaking of that, let's go to the lowlights. We had a couple lowlights that I would say, a couple episodes where we recorded and then afterwards just kind of thought, wow, we didn't do too good of a job there and the feedback was less than positive, which, hey, we still appreciate it. Just to name a few, when we tried to review the movie Revolution, I just think movie reviews.
Speaker 1:I mean just movie reviews in general. Our review of the bridge of spies was just not good. Our fans said that. I just remember it being not good. I enjoyed the film. The film was good.
Speaker 2:You didn't even remember we watched it three days ago I, I thought, I remember that I thought the true story was better than what the movie, how the movie depicted it.
Speaker 1:Well, I remember you, you being hellbent on that. But yeah, so just movies in general.
Speaker 2:It is way harder than you would think I still remember when you first called me, though, and your sister said oh, you know what you guys can do. You can do movie reviews and you were so excited. I remember sitting outside Summertime's hot out. You were really excited.
Speaker 1:It definitely wasn't summertime, but that's fine, it was.
Speaker 2:April, spring. Yeah, it was nice weather out. You were really excited about it. I'm like yeah, sure. And then I found that Al Pacino movie.
Speaker 1:I'm like this is going to be great.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's going to make itself. Episode's going to sail. Fans are going to love it.
Speaker 1:We've recorded that episode twice, if you remember, we did it once and it was like two hours. Our summary and review of the movie was two hours long for a movie that I don't even think hit 90 minutes. No, it was. Was it long it?
Speaker 2:was long. It was directed by the same guy that did Chariots of Fire. It was a snooze fest.
Speaker 1:The movie was really bad. I hope we talked somebody into watching it, though. It was an enjoyable bad.
Speaker 2:Anytime. If any of our fans ever hear us say do you want to get some eats?
Speaker 1:I mean you have to watch the movie if you want to get the reference. Just Al Pacino doing a New York, long Island accent during the American Revolution. It was insane. It was an insane film. It was insane Making rope insane film. It was insane Making rope. Just having a battle that never happened in Valley Forge just being completely historically inaccurate. It was just everywhere you look at it.
Speaker 2:I guess it was fitting. I don't feel as bad as that being one of our worst episodes, because the movie was that poor. Yeah, but it was.
Speaker 1:I remember the bimetallism talk was a bit of a snooze.
Speaker 1:Well, I think you really he didn't do too good of a job. I remember having to do a bunch of editing on that Wizard of Oz. Yeah, the Wizard of Oz stuff was cool. We barely talked about that. It was mostly you rambling about bimetallism, the pardons episode, which is recent, and we've gotten a little bit of some negative reviews from that. So you know, we're always trying and they can't all be bangers, as me and John would say. Every time we pretty much every time we end an episode, there's just a little bit of a I don't even know what to say. It's like you, just disappointment, like you get it so amped up before we record these things right and then once it's done, you're just like well, like that's it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I guess that's it. I say stay curious, and then you're probably like I'm brain dead with the listener stay curious.
Speaker 1:Well, I would if you didn't put me to sleep for two hours talking about silver and gold um, but yeah, so they can't all be good, I think probably, thank God, the one thing that we avoided is John. So, again, when we were talking about after these cards we didn't have, we didn't know what we wanted to do, we didn't know what direction we were going to go. So we were doing a couple, if you remember, a couple episodes we were looking at like are we going to watch Liberty Kids? The.
Speaker 1:PBS children's show that aaron carter did the theme song for um.
Speaker 2:We were going to do that we were like do we want to make it more serious, do we want to make it more slapsticky, or do we want to try to find a way to incorporate more highbrow?
Speaker 1:so in one episode academic stuff so one episode, we did both and just want to uh, I don't know, john, I don't know if you remember. Here's a here's your, here's your, uh, here's your pitch for for covering your book. I'll be in seed.
Speaker 2:Uh, I actually didn't find it. It's one of the podcasts I listened to. Uh, I actually didn't find it. One of the podcasts I listen to it's by the same author who wrote that book on the founding fathers, who our good friend and fan, dj TJ, does not approve of. But I heard about the book from that gentleman and it sounded super interesting, so I went out and got it and so, yeah, it's called Albion Seed for British Folkways in America and it's pretty.
Speaker 1:By the way, you can tell that this was an episode where we had some technical difficulties with our remote recording because the sound quality I mean you can hear it just sounds hard. You can hear I don't know, maybe because we have headphones on right now, but you can hear all that ambient noise.
Speaker 2:It. I don't know, maybe because we have headphones on right now, but you can hear all that ambient noise. It was recorded in a tin can Beastly book. It's about 900 pages. It's written by this author, a professor up in New England.
Speaker 1:Can you imagine, are you reading a 900-page book?
Speaker 2:Can you imagine being a listener to a podcast and sitting in traffic on 76 on the way into the city of philadelphia, and this is what you're being subjected to um and so I just found it kind of interesting, kind of pre a lot of this stuff predates the revolution and that and whatnot, and it really does a deep dive of these four english-speaking groups that had very diverse and very different perspectives and culture, ways and religion. Almost most importantly, Very important.
Speaker 4:I guess I got a lot more jaded over the year and so then the author makes.
Speaker 2:The claim is that, even though you know we don't have a lot of the same, you know aspects of the religion that they maybe promoted.
Speaker 3:I do cut you off. Let me see it's on the book Really interesting.
Speaker 2:I thought of Spectrum. We could try to go a little deeper on it. Matt was a little uncertain and unsure when he started reading it.
Speaker 1:I got a text from him saying he doesn't know if he's up to snuff to read this book. I don't think I'm smart enough. Let me just. Let me just cut in here. If our listeners, if John's description of that got you guys excited and thinking that, this is a very fun and entertaining book to read. Let me just I was able to read the prelude and the introduction of this book, and the prelude is a history of history.
Speaker 1:He goes through the history of history. Like historical studies. There couldn't be anything more boring than learning about how study the study, the history of studying of history, has progressed through the years. It was like a page. It wasn't even the introduction.
Speaker 4:It was too long, dude.
Speaker 1:So then, just to wrap that whole thing up, I just thought it'd be funny I went and grabbed an example of how boring the preface of Albion Seed. I kept saying prelude, but that's like part of a song or like the story.
Speaker 1:Yeah, preface is just like. So I read an excerpt. If you remember, I read an excerpt from the preface. Here we go. Five are now in draft. It centers on a major problem in American historiography, historiography. Historiography, historiography yeah, that's the study of history. It's about the problem of cultural origins. The second volume of American Plantations studies the problems of culture and environment in the colonial era. The third volume examines the coming of independence as a cultural movement. Volume 4 takes up the problem of cultural change in the early republic and volume 5 is about the civil war as a cultural conflict.
Speaker 1:Other volumes will follow if the huther is allowed to complete them I don't think he actually wrote a book entitled american plantations, didn't? Happen. Who's allowing him to do whatever? It's a free country. You could have written um, what does that mean? So yeah, so uh, it's just funny, I don't know.
Speaker 1:It's just have you ever picked up that book again no, I think again, I'm my kindle. I texted you I've I don't use my kindle, I I haven't been reading as much as I should be. Full disclosure, just in general, and I got I started trying to dust off my kindle, which I don't technically, I don't really even like using a Kindle, but it just makes sense to use it, I guess, because it's time and place for sure.
Speaker 1:So I bought Wicked the novel because I went to see it and I wanted to read the book. My sister said the book was better than the play. She never saw the movie but she saw it on Broadway. She said she enjoyed the book a lot and the plus, she saw it on Broadway. She never saw the movie but she saw it on Broadway, said she enjoyed the book a lot and the Broadway play was a bit of a disappointment. So I bought the book and I'm like I don't want anyone seeing me carrying it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so that's a good use of the Kindle book. We're discreet.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but that's not the only reason why I did it. I was kind of just like, yeah, I want to get it, I want to use this Kindle, I have it here. I never use it.
Speaker 2:About 30 pages on another founding father.
Speaker 1:Yeah, francis Marion, and then. So then I went to load this up and I lost a bunch of books on my Kindle and I texted John, it's like almost a Kindle. I forget what the wording was exactly, but I said I'm losing. I lost the Francis Marion book off of my Kindle. I think the Kindle's finally realizing that I'm all talk. It's learning, it's self-learning.
Speaker 2:It's going to do an update.
Speaker 1:It says this guy doesn't know how to read, I'm pretty sure. So I lost that. I lost that. I lost the Francis Marion book and I lost the. I think I lost Albion Seed too, because I did download that on the. Yeah Well, that's not much of a miss, but then some random ones, I don't know, I don't know. I got to go back into it. Do you use the app Goodreads? I don't. I've seen it.
Speaker 1:It's like a social media type Not social media, but it's a way to follow your friends and see what they're reading. Really, yeah, they had a big thing. Was that an assassin himself, Luigi Maggione? They were reading his Goodread reviews.
Speaker 2:It was part of his character on the internet.
Speaker 1:I think they were saying that he was commenting on Ted Kaczynski's memoir.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, One of his books. I saw that.
Speaker 1:I just went away from that one. I feel like how could? And I think there was, like there were some like uh, god, what I want to say like agencies who, under who like, were looking out for him. But if anybody would ever make a review of, like ted kaczynski's book where it's like this guy actually made some pretty good points, even if he may have and like whatever, like that person should immediately be put on some kind of list. If you have, you can think it, and I'm sure you do, john, you can think it.
Speaker 1:You could maybe say you can say it, maybe your friends, but you might not want to like put it on the internet. If you've gotten to the point where you want to agree with Ted Kaczynski in public on the internet, you got to get put on the list somewhere.
Speaker 2:I'm all about free speech.
Speaker 1:Don't get me wrong and he can say it. He shouldn't get arrested for it, but just keep an eye on the journal.
Speaker 2:Write it in a journal, don't let anyone see it, Don't act on it, obviously, clearly. That's number one, yeah, but if you have those thoughts, it's like yeah, yeah, it wasn't on.
Speaker 1:It's obviously, you know, killing anyone in cold blood not good idea. There were 24 ladies waiting for him at his arraignment hearing today, so he didn't do it. I think they just think he's hot, which he's pretty good looking guy, nice Italian stallion proud. Baltimore family yeah, so I guess that's it. I mean, john, I don't know if we're missing anything. Fans, I know we. I kind of breezed over the low lights cause I just they kind of they hurt they hurt they sting a little bit.
Speaker 2:Maybe we can give our fans. You have some high, you have some stats for us.
Speaker 1:I do have some stats for us actually. Thanks, john. Just a little bit of a year, year in review. You know We'll be open. I guess you call this our yearly report, right, report card, our report card. So the year so we started in Our first episode was March 2024. We've had 34 episodes. That's amazing. This will be the 35th episode. That's incredible. For a total of 2,005 minutes of pure entertainment. Are you serious?
Speaker 2:Yeah, what is that 2,000?
Speaker 1:2,005.
Speaker 2:2,005.
Speaker 1:Roughly I estimated. When I added it together, I kind of averaged around 33 hours.
Speaker 2:Hey, 34 episodes, 33 hours yeah, how much would you say you spent editing?
Speaker 1:Well, I got that. So 794 downloads through Buzzsprout and 36 views on YouTube, so a total of 830 total listens. We have nine subscribers on YouTube and 11 followers on Twitter, and I have here zero minutes. John spent doing any editing or contribution to the quality of the podcast no, it should be at least 20 minutes.
Speaker 2:I upgraded my internet. That's what that setup was very easy once he installed it.
Speaker 1:So yeah, well, I don't I mean again. I would hope, as I have agreed to say that I was wrong about Tadu's Cuscusco, I could do more. No, I would hope that you could say that you were wrong and your internet was trash all that time and your internet was the problem. It was a big problem.
Speaker 2:It was a big problem.
Speaker 1:And your quality of life has improved since you've changed your internet Not just for the podcast, I assume.
Speaker 2:It's been great. It's been great I. It's been good. It's been a very it's been a. It's been a switch that had to happen. We're saving money, we're getting a better product. It's fantastic all around.
Speaker 1:Yeah. So then just one last thing. I don't want to. You know, I know npr or like pbs, they have their, they have their begging what do they call it? Their fundraising episodes and everything like that. And we're not going to have a fundraising drive or anything, but just wanted to let the fans know how much that this has cost me financially over the year. So the initial setup, which came with a soundboard, 2 microphones, the stands and headphones, was $582.99. It was half price.
Speaker 2:I've bought 50% off.
Speaker 1:I've bought extra microphone. I've bought some extra microphones and cables for additional people, should we want to have more guest appearances, which we've had a couple. That was a total of $95.97. I upgraded my microphone stand and cables. That came to $273.99. The Buzzsprout subscription year-to-date was $326. Was $326. My Descript subscription to date was $276.17, for a grand total of $1,555.12. Which I got. To be honest, that's a lot of money, but I've gotten an enjoyment. I've gotten the return.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:I think the fans have enjoyed at least pretending to like the show. It's kind of just been a bit of a running joke and I just think it's been fun. But, that being said, if anybody would like to donate money to recoup some of this, you can send me an email. Send us an email at nailinghistorypod at gmailcom and we'll send you directions on how to donate.
Speaker 2:I don't think you'll be able to deduct that off your taxes. You don't think? I don't think so. I think we're not a registered non-profit, I don't think 501, right?
Speaker 1:Yeah, do you have 501, right? 501? Yeah, do you have any stats? John, done any preparation at all.
Speaker 2:I guess I paid $0 for all the Do you have?
Speaker 1:anything to say? Any stats, highlights, lowlights? I know we put most of this together. I didn't bring anything up. I don't have anything to say.
Speaker 2:I'm shocked at how many episodes we've done. If you tested me and gave me a test, say, just number our episodes, I'd struggle, but that's a good thing. Time flies, time flies, time flies. We've put out 33 hours of gold. Well, not gold, mostly silver.
Speaker 1:Cheap and silver. Maybe out of those 33 hours, seven, eight hours probably been pretty quality entertainment with quips and one-liners and chuckles.
Speaker 2:We had some good laughs.
Speaker 1:It's a good belly shaking which let's just uh, we'll just go through that. But one thing that we've done a lot of is some singing. We're not scared to use our pipes that god gave us, and I put together a bit of a, a quick it's not super long a quick little compilation of some of the better singing moments of the year.
Speaker 2:And I'm stoked.
Speaker 4:We're living in a town and they're closing all the factories down Out in Bethlehem. They're killing time Filling out forms standing in line Out in Bethlehem. They're killing time Filling out forms standing in line Head like a hole. Black out your soul.
Speaker 3:I'd rather die than give you control, you got a good voice.
Speaker 2:I've been waiting so long to be where I'm going, in the sunshine of your love.
Speaker 4:When the truth is found to be lies and all the joy within you dies. Don't you want somebody to love? Don't you need somebody to love? Don't you need somebody to love? Sorry that you feel that way.
Speaker 1:The only thing there is to say every silver lining's got a touch of gray and then a hero comes along, emperor Norton, with the strength to carry on and you cast your fears aside and you know you can survive. I've had the blues, the reds and the pinks.
Speaker 4:One thing's for sure Love stinks, love stinks.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, Love stinks yeah yeah, Love stinks.
Speaker 4:Yeah. Yeah, Love stinks yeah yeah.
Speaker 1:I just don't know why you had to feel like you needed to ruin that love stinks song by just randomly say stinks, you ruined the timing of the breakdown. I did as best as I can. I'm doing as best as I can with what I got here. Ladies and gentlemen, fans, I guess one way to sum up your, uh, your general attitude towards the show would be this I'm really stoked that we're back in live in person.
Speaker 2:I'm stoked, let's do it. I'm really stoked about this one, but I'm stoked.
Speaker 1:We're stoked.
Speaker 2:I'm not stoked, I'm stoked. We're stoked to have you. We're stoked to have you back. I'm stoked to be here for another week, stoked at that. I'm stoked to be back for another week, stoked that. I'm stoked to be back, stoked about elon, and we are stoked, stoked, stoked. Thank you so much. You're stoked you're stoked a lot and I need it.
Speaker 1:I need a thesaurus for the new year, I think I know what I need for Christmas. So I guess that's a good part. Let's say we got end of the year. Let's do what is. As far as the podcast goes, what is your New Year's resolution for the podcast? Maybe use ChatGPT a little bit less. What do you you?
Speaker 2:think it kind of ended up down a rabbit hole. Um, it gave some gold, it gave us some good moments, but I think I used it a little bit too much as a crutch.
Speaker 1:There you go, ladies and gentlemen. He's admitting, I've admitted it.
Speaker 2:I, I can put more effort and thought my own thoughts. It's into into it and, um, let me go from there.
Speaker 1:I like that, but let's just, we'll take it one week at a time and uh maybe fans, if you want to let us know some of the things that you want to, that you want to hear about um in the new year. Any directions you might want us to take, we'll be happy to take them into consideration. I noticed you didn't ask me what my new year's resolution would be for the show.
Speaker 1:For the show I want to say like less. You know, I don't know if you've noticed, I use like as a transitional word. Is that a? Is that a?
Speaker 2:word yeah to into something, up to another. I say like a lot like.
Speaker 1:You know like what I'm saying. Like you know I say like a lot like. You know like, and I was just like, and then she's just like and you know like, I say like a lot, and that's just like.
Speaker 2:It's like I'm working on it so you, I gotta drop, you gotta drop like I gotta drop, stoked you can continue to say stoked.
Speaker 1:I think it's fun, it's kind of goofy, it's very like socal for somebody who's like a confederate, uh, a confederate, uh, apologist, oh boy, I'm gonna end up on a list nah um I like I like getting our fans more involved.
Speaker 2:I think uh, sticking to maybe get some more guest appearances on the show.
Speaker 1:Get emily m back on another oj. Yeah, get back up.
Speaker 2:It's been six months I think it's been six months since those episodes it was probably like april.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, I mean, it was april. That was this. It started off as this week in history for the the bronco chase.
Speaker 2:It would have been april, wow everyone, every, every person I talked to with 2x chromosomes said that was their favorite 2x, 2x.
Speaker 1:What do you mean? Women, women, I don't even think it would be 2x chromosomes. If anyone had a single chromosome in their body, they said that was their favorite one. I don't think it Every single. I mean every single person. I asked like well, what's your favorite episode? The OJ Simpson was good, I guess.
Speaker 2:I think it was the subject matter, but I do think having we had we maybe it's a movie to consider. I think having three people, we have three microphones. I think having three people just changes a dynamic. I think you have more to play off.
Speaker 1:I just don't know if we're going to have be able to get a third person to commit. Three person definitely is a good dynamic, but you know I also like that. It's a treat when we have a third person.
Speaker 2:I like the sound when we call people to, like the sound of someone, like a phone, like someone phoning in, but we phone them? They don't. Usually it's radio stations like, hey, we're gonna take a call here them. Usually it's radio stations like hey, we're going to take a call here, and they just press play and there's a speaker on the other end. We have to call. A little bit of a bummer, but I do like that sound. I like the episode when you called me.
Speaker 1:Well, hey, I'm just looking at this now. My highlight was always doing the rock and roll cards. That was my number one highlight. I always had a blast doing it and you want to do a couple of them for old time's sake?
Speaker 2:We can do a couple To ring in the new year.
Speaker 4:It's like old time rock and roll. That kind of music just soothes the soul. I reminisce about the days of old With that old time rockin' roll.
Speaker 2:Is that Bob Seger? It is Bob Seger, and fun fact for our fans. If I recall correctly, one of our listeners I believe it was Dick Pepperfield sang this song at our grade school talent show. No, he didn't. Yes, he did Well. He pantomimed it. He didn't actually sing it Really. That's funny. I did well he pantomimed it.
Speaker 1:Oh, he didn't actually sing it really. Yeah, I don't think you might have to bring it up. I have some explaining to do next, in the next time we get together well, you can send us the text, confirm it or not.
Speaker 2:Either, or we'll be happy with it. Your turn, oh boy.
Speaker 1:I don't know this one. I'll give it my best shot. Take me in into your darkest hour, and I'll never desert you.
Speaker 3:I'll stand by you, pretenders.
Speaker 2:Don't ever hurt you. Yeah, Chrissy Hine.
Speaker 4:I'll stand by you Pretenders, don't ever hurt you, yeah.
Speaker 1:Chrissy Hine. I'll stand by you. How does that take me in? Take me in, dude. Take me in, isn't Chrissy Hine? I mean, that's what's on the card. Here we go, I got. This is a good one for me.
Speaker 3:Ten soldiers and Nixon's coming, we're finally on our own. This summer. I hear the drumming for dead in ohio it's pretty good, good rendition of him.
Speaker 2:He seems like a weird guy. That's none other than mr Neil Young, yeah.
Speaker 1:I honestly didn't know that. That was the words. I didn't know it was Nixon coming. Did you Tin soldiers and Nixon coming? I just knew it was about the shooting at Kent.
Speaker 2:State.
Speaker 1:I thought it was tin soldiers, not tin. You thought it was tin soldiers. I thought it was tin, it's tin. Oh Tin soldiers and Nixon coming, I guess it was tin soldiers. I thought it was 10. It's 10. Oh, tin soldiers and Nixon coming, I guess it was like tin soldiers and Nixon coming. I don't know what I thought.
Speaker 2:Here you want to do one more. I thought Axl Rose was talking about the Balkans in November rain, so it's okay.
Speaker 4:Freedom's just another word for nothing left to lose and nothing. Maybe nothing is really free left to lose and nothing, maybe nothing. Free and freedom. We got the blues, me, me, bobby McGee there you go, janis Joplin that's right with Big Brother and the Holding Company really.
Speaker 1:I didn't know that was an actual thing.
Speaker 2:She's okay I had her cds. But yeah, I was definitely trying to be cool. Yeah, well, she's fine all right fans.
Speaker 1:Well, I guess that's it for for this uh recap. We're happy to have you guys. I'd like to say I thank you for all the listeners. Thank you for all of the special guest appearances we had Brian K, Dick Pepperfield. Andrew S, mark C, emily M. Lauren G. If you really put them all next to each other, we had a lot.
Speaker 2:That's a crew. That's a crew, that's a going out kind of crew. Maybe one day, one day we'll all get together and reminisce about the early days of the podcast when we're yucking it up with 10,000 downloads an episode.
Speaker 1:Thank you, I hope you guys all have a safe and happy or had I don't know when this is going to be coming out have or had a safe and healthy New Year, new Year, holiday, christmas and that's it. Enjoy it guys. John, you got anything to leave us with?
Speaker 2:Do it now, do it later, do it forever, stay curious.
Speaker 1:Hey fans, Matt back here. Just if you guys hung on long enough, I just wanted to give you guys a little treat here. If you guys hung on long enough, I just wanted to give you guys a little treat here. This goes out to the people we just mentioned. Love you guys.
Speaker 4:Another turning point a fork stuck in the road. Time grabs you by the wrist direction where to go, so make the best of this test and don't ask why it's not a question, but a lesson learned in time. It's something unpredictable, but in the end is right.
Speaker 3:I hope you had the time of your life.
Speaker 1:I'm having the time of my life, John Right there with you, buddy.
Speaker 4:So take the photographs and still frames in your mind.
Speaker 3:Hang it on a shelf in good health and good time Tattoos and memories and dancing on trial For what it's worth.
Speaker 4:it was worth all the while. It's something unpredictable, but in the end it's right.
Speaker 1:I hope you had the time of your life all right, I hope you guys hung around for that and we say bye, bye, come on, man.