Nailing History
Introducing "Nailing History," the podcast where two friends attempt to nail down historical facts like they're trying to assemble IKEA furniture without the manual. Join Matt and Jon (or Jon and Matt) as they stumble through the annals of time, armed with Wikipedia, Chat GPT, and a sense of reckless abandon.
In each episode, Matt and Jon pick a historical event that tickles their curiosity (and occasionally their funny bone) and dissect it like a frog in biology class—except they're the frogs, and they have no idea what they're doing. From ancient civilizations to modern mishaps, they cover it all with the finesse of a bull in a china shop.
But wait, there's more! In between butchering historical names and dates, Matt and Jon take a break to explore the intersection of history and pop culture. Ever wondered if Cleopatra would have been a TikTok sensation? Yeah, neither have they, but that won't stop them from imagining it in excruciating detail.
So grab your popcorn and prepare to laugh, cringe, and possibly learn something (though don't hold your breath). With Matt and Jon leading the charge, "Nailing History" is the only podcast where you're guaranteed to leave scratching your head and questioning everything you thought you knew about the past. After all, who needs a PhD when you've got two clueless buddies and a microphone?
Nailing History
135: Newlywed, Jon N., Needs Our Help
When newlywed John returns from his California nuptials, the podcast takes a refreshingly personal turn as Matt recounts his best man experience and the unexpected drama surrounding the wedding's signature cocktail. The "Simply Peach Juice debacle" becomes a running joke throughout the episode, as the hosts describe their frantic day-before search for this elusive ingredient, only to run out during cocktail hour anyway.
What makes this episode particularly enjoyable is how organically it transitions from wedding talk to an impromptu American history quiz session. John reveals he's been tasked with creating Fourth of July trivia for his workplace, and Matt becomes the reluctant guinea pig for testing these questions. Their back-and-forth banter creates both humor and genuine historical insights as they debate the difficulty level and entertainment value of each question.
The trivia section uncovers fascinating Independence Day connections many listeners might not know: Calvin Coolidge was the only U.S. president born on July 4th; Thomas Jefferson and John Adams both died on July 4th, 1826 (exactly 50 years after the Declaration of Independence); and Italian patriot Giuseppe Garibaldi, born on July 4th, 1807, was offered but refused a commission in the Union Army during the Civil War.
Beyond just facts, the episode showcases the hosts' different approaches to making history engaging. John tends toward straightforward questions, while Matt advocates for injecting humor to make the trivia more memorable. Their friendly disagreement about whether questions should be multiple choice or fill-in-the-blank reflects wider debates about history education – should we focus on accessibility or deeper knowledge?
Whether you're planning your own history-themed trivia night or simply enjoy learning American history through casual conversation, this episode delivers both entertainment and education in equal measure. What Fourth of July fact would surprise your friends the most? Let us know and join the historical conversation!
Hey fans, let's all congratulate the newlywed here. Mr John, Is there a different Mr for?
Speaker 2:a married man. No.
Speaker 1:And if it is, it hasn't been in about 100 years, I'm sure. Is there something that's a Mr for somebody who's not married, like that's a mister for somebody who's not married, like there's a miss and missus? I think it's only mister, like mister, mister, fantastic band miss.
Speaker 1:Is there an equivalent man equivalent to miss versus missus, the male equivalent of miss, and to Miss versus Mrs? The male equivalent of Miss and Mrs is Mr. Unlike the feminine titles which denote marital status, mr is used for all men, regardless of their marital status. For young boys, master is sometimes used, but it is less common in modern usage. I think I'm going to go by Master. I will do that and next time you go to Colonial Williamsburg you'll be ready Maybe.
Speaker 2:We'll see.
Speaker 1:We actually have an ancillary fan of the podcast heading to Williamsburg for the week and I told him to buckle on up. He didn't listen to the episodes, so I don't really know what he's getting himself into. Well, just tell him to go early in the day, don't fuss around.
Speaker 1:I gave him the cliff notes, so we'll see if that works. He said he was going to listen to it, but can't even. I mean I say he's an ancillary fan because I think he's listened to a couple episodes he thinks it's stupid, I'm pretty sure. And I can't even get him to listen to something that's about where he's going to be spending a week coming up. So that's a pretty bad sign for that. Is this a relation of yours, no Friend?
Speaker 2:Yeah, you know, kind of friend you know.
Speaker 1:He's a good friend of mine, not as good of a friend of yours, mr H, mr H, hmm, mr H is going to have himself a week going down with a couple of couples. Some kids are going to be around. I told him it's not gonna be fun he's like yeah zh, yeah, he's, um, he's.
Speaker 1:Uh. He was gonna go to jamestown and I told him like, so I was like at first I was giving him the advice that we kind of settled on where it was like, don't go to the one without an E, just go to the one with an E, because the one without an E is just kind of like a bunch of nitwits run that thing, you know Right. But he's going with children. So if I were to go with children, I think I would probably pick jamestown with no e over jamestown with an e. But I told him, if I told him, if he goes to jamestown without an e, to make sure that he follows, he goes to the museum first, of course. That's the pause that I was going to give too.
Speaker 1:Yes, I think it would totally change our perspective.
Speaker 2:I'm still not very optimistic and don't spend so much time at the state flags.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's a waste.
Speaker 2:What were you saying? I talked over you. No, you're fine, I talked over you.
Speaker 1:What were you saying? Just watch the little video at the beginning, get yourself into the museum part, get out there, check out some boats, check out some log cabins.
Speaker 2:Well, I told him about the Get out of there.
Speaker 1:Oh, dude, I got to tell him to stop at the tobacco fields and take a picture, got to see how those things are. I think they'll be knee high by july. Oh, I gotta tell him. I gotta tell him to stop there. I um, oh man, I forgot to tell him about that. Hopefully he listens, but I don't think he went. He's got six hours to listen down there. So well, he um. Yeah, I forgot about that. And when I brought up the boats, I was just telling him about Jamestown without an E and I said, yeah, they have the boats there like models of the boats that they landed there with. He's like, oh, that's pretty cool. I'm like, yeah, when we were there they were working on them, so we couldn't go on them. That was the first kick in the nuts of multitudes kicking the nuts that weekend Multiple of them. Definitely tell him. If he wants to go to House of Burgesses, do it early. I told him what I said was just keep in mind that Peanut soup can wait.
Speaker 1:That's true. I don't know if I told him about the peanut soup, but I did tell him. I'm sure the fans are really excited to listen to us recap our most recent episodes. But I told him that even though it says the park is open till 9, everything closes at 5. He needs to be aware. Just check himself before he gets in there.
Speaker 1:He's lucky dude. He's lucky. He's got a chance. He's got a chance to have a good time If he feeds our advice, and that starts by being a fan and listening to this podcast. If he doesn't do that, well, he's got what's coming to him. So, anyway, fans, welcome to another episode of the Nailing History podcast. Fresh off of a big old trip to California. Big time podcast. Fresh off of a big old trip to california. Um, big time john make his nuptials, is that what?
Speaker 2:you say lauren with, yes, with a lauren g, now, soon, well, lauren n lauren.
Speaker 1:And now that you've put my last name on blast did I when lauren john oh yeah, oh yeah, I can edit that out. Find me on LinkedIn. It's my social hey in Sutter Creek.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it was a good week. Oh, I did want to give you a heads up so I gave some of our bigger fans, brian K, andrew S and Dick Pepperfield. I was hanging out with them on Friday and they asked me how it went. And I was telling a Andrew S and Dick Pepperfield. I was hanging out with them on Friday and they asked me how it went and I was telling them a couple things and they were laughing. We were yucking it up. But the one thing that I've made sure to talk about was the Simply Peach Juice debacle and it was funny.
Speaker 1:So, fans, if you don't know, john here and Lauren chose a signature drink for their wedding, as most people do. It was called the Naughty Well, I guess I can't even say what the name's called, but it was called the Naughty N Well. I can't say that. That sounds it's California. We weren't getting married in Mississippi. I mean, come on. So it was a signature drink. And what was the signature drink? What did it include? What was the concoction you guys decided on here? It included there was an alcoholic version and non-alcoholic version. Alcoholic version includes Sauvignon Blanc, peach juice Yep, simply peach juice, lime seltzer water and a dash of something else. I forget. It was good I had one, but just to give a recap John here.
Speaker 1:So we were. John was being a diva, my opinion, he was being a diva the whole week, but Friday came around. I had to check out of my room. I didn't have anywhere to go, so I went over and was hanging out with John. I said, hey, man, is there anything that we really need to do today to get ready for tomorrow? So this was Friday, the wedding was Saturday. John says oh, yeah, we need to pick up peach juice for our signature the day before. I said Peach juice. Okay, where do you get that? Oh, any grocery store. So we go around, me and John. So there were two groups of people running errands so we were all kind of looking for this peach juice, simply Peach. And John and I struck out. But the other group I think they were able to get seven of them, eight of them, so six.
Speaker 1:But we needed nine Our goal was nine, I think if we came back to the house with six and that was a very low goal, but that's fine, it does so at the end of the day it didn't really matter, because they ran out of it by the end of cocktail hour, I'm pretty sure. So it's not like if we, it's not like if we would have gotten nine.
Speaker 1:It would have lasted the whole time so it didn't really matter but our fans, but our fans and guests of the wedding, like, say, fans, because they all, they all heard about this podcast. So if any of you were at the wedding, you know that you would. If you're a new subscriber, welcome to the show. Uh, they pivoted, they worked, they thought it was so good, so refreshing that they went ahead and started using peach white claws as a replacement for the simply peach juice. So you know, our guests, our fans, are very resourceful like that and uh, it worked.
Speaker 2:It was a great time, but I?
Speaker 1:the reason I bring that up is I got a text from fred at the show. Brian k, he said, got every simply drink under the sun at acme, except peach. To To which I responded because I happened to be grocery shopping at the time. I said LMAO, same at Wegmans. Then Brian K said I was hoodwinked, it's all I think about now. And I said I do want some. So I was given it and we talked about it. Actually, dick Pepperfield is a fan of it already. He said he just topped it. He polished off a bottle a couple weeks ago, so he likes the Simply Peach. He was shocked that we waited until the day before to look for it. It's a little bit hard to find, apparently, but just wanted to bring that up. I thought that was funny. Now, was he drinking this as a result of you telling him about it, or was he just dick dick pepperfield? Yes, oh, just by himself. He didn't hear about it until friday.
Speaker 2:Okay, wow, it's good stuff, it's quite good stuff, but it's only like what 20 real fruit?
Speaker 1:what was this percentage? It was some ridiculous percentage oh yeah, I think the peach one yeah, I think the peach one is like the only one that's not 100 juice or something anywhere close to 100. It's like 17 juice. One that's not 100% juice or something Anywhere close to 100%. It's like 17% juice. I think it was like 5% or something ridiculous. It was refreshing, it was good. Cocktail or drink was a hit and yeah, the whole wedding was a great, great time. It was very hot.
Speaker 2:Hey John.
Speaker 1:So, yeah, we're not going to go through a whole recap of the wedding. Um, as john said, I was the best man. He said that before, so I was stressing about my speech, which I did pretty well. It's funny, every single speech that was made, um, so the um, what do you? The officiant of the wedding?
Speaker 1:I guess you could say Yep, she she gave a speech like as part of the service. The service and what I said is her speech was very good and so the whole time I was standing up at the altar the whole time. I'm like she's doing way better than me. This stinks Like already getting outshined at the beginning. I'm like I'm not going to be able to follow this up. It was a good speech and as part of the vows that she had you guys read, I believe she got LaurenN LaurenNowN to agree to always support the podcast. I do think I heard that. Yes, so that's legally binding. That's the state of california, at least, for sure. So. So if she doesn't, you can get an annulment. Could you imagine the contract?
Speaker 2:states.
Speaker 1:Cause for divorce, doesn't support my pocket, won't let me live my dreams, but she would never not support it, of course. Well, she doesn't listen to it by any stretch of the imagination. Let's just call it what it is. But I will say she's very encouraging and always asked hey, are you potting this weekend? Hey, are you potting this weekend? Hey, are you potting this weekend? And she upgraded her internet, Did the upgrade, as we know and as you said during the speech, which she was not thrilled to hear she wasn't, no, I mean she laughed.
Speaker 1:She laughed it over. You think she was mad that I said about the internet.
Speaker 2:Not mad. Is that something you didn't want?
Speaker 1:people to know about, kind of take on, you know, kind of beating the dead horse, kind of thing, I guess you know we sort of said, hey, it's bad Seven or eight months ago, but it did take us long enough to finally fix it. But as soon as we fixed it it's been pretty good. But yeah, so the officiant shouted out the podcast. Lauren's sister, who was the maid of honor, shouted out the podcast. I forget exactly what her shout out was, but I do remember she mentioned it and then I just shouted it out through my speech.
Speaker 2:Continuously.
Speaker 1:We're just running out of podcasts. We haven't been even putting out remotely it was. It was a giant plug for the podcast. That's what I took it as how many people were there? 145, something like that. So 145 people heard about our podcast three times at one wedding and we got. So I'm like, oh man, we're at least going to have to get 30 downloads, like this upcoming week at least. I think we got eight that per episode, or just an overall, just overall.
Speaker 1:Oh geez, I thought there was gonna be someone who were gonna just like you know, get a hook line and sink and they were going to download all 38 episodes.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I feel like it's not a great sign. Here. People are encouraging. You don't want to bring anything down. I mean, I think the positivity was there. I think there was a lot of good buzz in the air. I think people were having fun with it. I will say a little update on the podcast demographics. I got an email here from this company called PodSEO or Podseo, I'm not sure this is what it says. Hi there, when listeners search for Spanish democracy on Apple Podcasts or Spotify, nailing History appears as result 7. But did you know? It's also result number 18 for history enthusiasts and result number 63 for peculiar histories. So that's from Andrea DeMarcy, founder pod CEO, spanish. I don't know how. How would Spanish democracy be? Did we ever talk?
Speaker 2:about this.
Speaker 1:We did talk about this we did talk about. We had that episode about Christopher Columbus, the Spanish. Were we ever talking, wasn't it this week in this history, about the Spanish Civil War? Am I just? I think you're just Projecting, making something up I think so, but yeah, so we got our demographics down. I like that Number 18 for history enthusiasts.
Speaker 2:I can't believe we only have three downloads an episode.
Speaker 1:Well, hey, also it almost sounds like they might be lying just to get us to pay them money for their service. But hey, who's to? So we don't really have much planned for this episode, we wanted to just get on. I surprised John on recording here. He wanted to just kind of do a, I guess, a plan for the summer. You know, a to-do list for the summer?
Speaker 2:Try to get a A to-do list.
Speaker 1:Yeah, try to get a what would you call it? A rubric or a syllabus? Yeah, I guess so.
Speaker 2:For the summer.
Speaker 1:But I don't want to do that necessarily. I wanted to get on the airwaves and, um, what really got me thinking like, hey, why don't we record this is, john, what have you been working on all weekend? Well, fans, I, as some of you may know, I've started a relatively new job over half a year now but I volunteered to help throw a 4th of July trivia July. Don't act like you're not excited about this. You're such a joke.
Speaker 1:Oh, I volunteered, I was part of this cultural committee and we have a culture week every year at the end of june and it kind of wraps up. I think this fourth of july trivia is the big. It's the big shebang. It's the kind of the you know, the final firework, as you may say, to round off culture week.
Speaker 1:At my, at my work, the pressure's on and I literally just attended my very first meeting like a month ago and they were like, uh, hey, we need some ideas for July and we normally do a trivia. And I'm like, oh, that could be interesting. And they're like, can you run it? And I'm like, okay, sure, why not? So I don't really know what I'm getting into. I've been making these slides all day and a little bit of chat GPT, a little bit of Microsoft Copilot. I'll be honest. I'll be honest Help frame what I want to do. And yeah, I think what we're going to do here is Matt's going to be my guinea pig. I already ran these by Lauren G and her sister and I got some feedback, but I think Matt's going to tell us the mystery, get the fans' feedback.
Speaker 1:dude Get the fans' feedback. Yeah, we got a week. We got a week, dick Peep. Mr Pepperfield, we need you to be on top of it. We haven't had a message in a while. Well, technically, these questions. Also no messages from any of the wedding guests, big new fans, okay, big.
Speaker 2:No messages from any of the wedding guests.
Speaker 1:Big new fans. Okay, big new fans, where you at, come on. But technically the superiors will have to approve these questions anyway. But I think we'll be in the clear. I don't think there's anything that's going to get flagged. Yeah, I'll be the judge of that.
Speaker 2:We'll just see.
Speaker 1:Let's go All right. So anyone who were Any of John's coworkers who he hasn't told about the podcast yet and just happened to be stuck, do you want to say where you work? So they if maybe there's listeners, they don't recognize your voice. You want to let them know? Don't think I should?
Speaker 1:Okay, well if you work in the let's just do it this way If you work in Baltimore City, stop listening to the podcast. Good call Flat out, just turn off the. Your power's probably cut off anyway. If you live in Baltimore City, anyway, power's probably gone out. What's that supposed to mean? I don't know.
Speaker 2:It's a safe, can't pay their bills.
Speaker 1:Very safe and pleasant town, love it.
Speaker 2:Every minute of it, yikes.
Speaker 1:Anyway, it's a chill place. A lot of history, pratt street I suggested to my some of my co-workers doing a walk down, like a historical walk kind of thing. But we'll see what shakes out. But anyway, moving on. So how's it? So let's, let's just get down to it. Um, let's try to speed through it a little bit for the fans, so they aren't you know. I got 33 questions for you. How is it broken out In rounds or how do you?
Speaker 1:have the scoring figured out Well, I had it. Is this a Jeopardy style? No, it's just a matter of multiple choice mixed in with some type in the answer.
Speaker 2:Multiple choice.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I have to be cognizant of different people at my work and some of these questions if I like the numbers based ones are multiple choice, primarily so that people aren't taking guesses at random numbers and getting nowhere near it.
Speaker 2:excuse me, so you could just say who's the closest, but okay, whatever.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but I'm trying to use the software. They want me to use the software where, uh, I can present and like share my screen in a presentation room and then, like anyone who's working from home can also participate by just logging into the site on their phone and all the answers are just tallied up there and it kind of does all the work for you. Long story short, I put effort into it, but I didn't want to put that much effort into it, so I put effort into the questions in terms of how I actually went ahead and made those. So how is it? So? Is it just one round and like a score? Is that?
Speaker 2:it, or is there? Well, what I've got?
Speaker 1:I have. Yeah, I kind of broke it off into three rounds. The categories are Three rounds of 11 questions, each Interesting. It's just what it came out to. So there were kind of three different rounds Food, fireworks and festivities this is co-pilot talking here. Food, fireworks and festivities Born and died in the USA, and then stars, stripes and and independence. So the first category the first, like 11 questions are kind of more like pop culture related and festivities and food and all that stuff.
Speaker 1:Uh born and died in is like things that happened on july 4th throughout this board and die yeah I'm not actually going to say these categories during the presentation because again, the software I'm using isn't letting me kind of give categories to these. But anyway, and then Stars and Stripes is a kind of more history, although a lot of them are mostly history, but you'll see, nothing too crazy I think you should do very well, if you don't get north of 90%, I'll be a little embarrassed for you.
Speaker 2:I'm going out on a limb.
Speaker 1:If I do bad, I guess I just won't publish the episode. You need 29 questions to pass. I thought it was 33. Oh okay, you need 29, right, all right, here we go. Oh okay, 29, right, all right, here we go.
Speaker 2:All right everybody.
Speaker 1:Welcome to the Nailing History Trivia.
Speaker 2:Fourth of July edition Fourth of July.
Speaker 1:All right, matt, are you ready to go? Yep, first question how many hot dogs? It's multiple choice. Dogs, it's multiple choice. This one's multiple choice. How many hot dogs on average are consumed on the 4th of july each year? 50 million, 150 million, 500 million, 300 million. How many people live in the US? 330, roughly Million Million. So 50 million, 100 million, 50 million, 150 million, 300 million, 500 million. I'm going to say 150 million. That is correct. What? Alright, that's one for you. Are you tallying this? Are you keeping an honest running score? Uh, yeah, alright. Which city is famous for hosting the Nathan's hot dog eating contest every 4th of July? This is a fill in the blank. Um contest every 4th of July? This is a fill in the blank. Well, it's not a blank Um. Does New York City count as the answer? Yes, okay, let me Google that. Yes, it is yeah, okay, because what's the it's?
Speaker 2:Why can't I?
Speaker 1:think of, yeah, coney Island, but you would take New York City. Well, because, yeah, Coney Island's not a city and Coney Island is part of New York City. Yeah, because, yeah, coney Island's not a city and Coney Island is part of New York City. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you might want to say what area of New York City Like, make the answer Coney Island, not New York City. That would be a better question. Okay, so what are you saying I should do? Which, like, isn't it like an amusement park?
Speaker 2:considered or or vacation or like beach.
Speaker 1:It's a beach. What beach? What new york city beach hosts the nathan's hot dog eating contest. Okay, I feel like that would be a better question. City Question the beach is famous for hosting Coney Island. It's a beach in Brooklyn, so you could also well whatever Okay. That's all right. All right, let's go. I'm going to keep it as New York.
Speaker 2:Why? Because?
Speaker 1:people aren't going to know that. Wait, you're going to keep the answer being new york. Which city is famous? It's just got to be so that's just so easy dude, I don't think, I think I think a ton of people aren't going to get it. If it's. If it was, if it was gonna be, if it was gonna. This is also not a multiple choice one. Okay, it's not multiple choice. It was gonna be if it was gonna. This is also not a multiple choice one, okay it's not multiple choice it was multiple choice and it was new york, just leave it okay
Speaker 1:okay, stupid. Who holds the record for eating the most hot dogs at the nathan's hot dog eating contest? Joey chestnut, that's correct, god okay. Considered the most popular in the us. This pie is a symbol of american values, enjoyed by millions every year. Apple pie that's correct Could do Well, keep going. It's got to be basic. I mean, why have a trivia if everyone's going to know every answer? But that's fine, keep going. Who sponsors the largest fireworks display in the US on the 4th of July?
Speaker 2:Target.
Speaker 1:Tough question Amazon, kohl's Macy's oh you know I love Kohl's Macy's. Oh you know I love Kohl's, but I don't think they got the bread for that. Not enough Kohl's cash in the world the CEO's doing. What's the CEO up to? Oh, he's got all kinds of trouble, is he? Yeah, Like cheating scandal. Nice, ashley Buch cannon after just four months on the job? Yeah, dude, tell me, tell the fans how I looked in their summer collection, though you know what I mean? Pretty good, pretty spot on um, I guess target. My guess that is incorrect.
Speaker 2:What is it, macy's?
Speaker 1:Is it?
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:They do the parade too Well, alright.
Speaker 2:That's a stupid question.
Speaker 1:What are you talking about? That's fine. Which city hosts the National Independence Day Parade? Boston, washington DC, philadelphia, new York City? Hmm, hmm, I guess I don't know my festivities that well. It's not Philly, wow. So it means I put the easy questions at the beginning. These are stupid questions. It's not Philly, it's 60 people.
Speaker 2:Probably not New.
Speaker 1:York because they have the hot dog eating thing. It's my thought process there. I guess Boston Incorrect. Is it DC? It's DC Shoot. I'm in trouble now. These are stupid questions, whatever, okay, I didn't ask you.
Speaker 1:I didn't make them for you. I didn't make these questions for you. You're not the target audience. Which 1996 blockbuster film features an alien invasion in a dramatic 4th of July speech by the US president Independence Day? You didn't write any of these questions, did you? That one? I got help on that one, I did. Which 2010 hit song by American artist Katy Perry has become an unofficial anthem.
Speaker 2:Firework 4th of July yes, phantom.
Speaker 1:Firework, fourth of July. Yes, the Independence Day question is something like which movie had the line from Will Smith that said Welcome to Earth or something, or starring Jeff Goldblum or something funny with it? What independence, what movie? What movie did Jeff Goldblum need to take a spaceship into the mothership and implant a virus with a laptop computer and then, after it was done, he smoked a big, giant stogie with Will Smith on their way back. I was literally told by others. And Randy Quaid said I'm back. Dude, you gotta make it fun, which?
Speaker 1:movie starred an alcoholic deadbeat dad, played by Randy Quaid, flying an F-16 fighter jet that he flew in the Vietnam War up into the belly of a. I don't think he even flew the plane before he flew.
Speaker 2:Did he fly F-16s?
Speaker 1:Oh my God, you got to watch the movie again.
Speaker 2:No, I thought he was a crop duster.
Speaker 1:Well, he is now, but he was like a busted broke Vietnam vet. Oh, who could fly fighter jets? Yeah, they broke a vietnam vet. Oh, who could fly fighter jets? Yeah, I thought they were just putting anyone who could fly a plane up in this things. Um, oh, yeah, and he. Yeah, he had gotten diddled by. Yeah, right, okay, you should make that more fun, but that's fine, I got another one.
Speaker 1:I think I got I think I'm also mind you, most of my colleagues, I, I think probably 80% of them English is their second language. So I think, going into the obscure details of a 30-year-old film, I don't know, it was an international blockbuster and they'll know, and they're also very young. The younger people at my work. Where am?
Speaker 2:I here.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, they'll definitely know about the independence day parade. In what year were fireworks first used to celebrate the 4th of july? 1789, 177689, incorrect, 1777. What is the most common color of fireworks used during fourth of july celebrations? White correct. Which us president was born on the fourth of july? James buchanan, grover, cleveland. Calvin coolidge, john tyler just thinking about that tom cruise movie born on the fourth of july. What were the choices? Groverver, cleveland, james Buchanan, calvin Coolidge, john Tyler, oh, man Buchanan, incorrect, calvin Coolidge.
Speaker 2:And then in my. Thing.
Speaker 1:I've got 11 questions and then there's going to be a leaderboard and it's going to show how everyone's doing and then I'll say, hey, someone's doing great. Is that the 11th question? Yeah, so I only got one, two, three, four, five, six. I got seven.
Speaker 2:You're already.
Speaker 1:You got to clear the. I just don't understand how you think that asking about Randy Quaid flying a fighter jet up to the gut of an alien mothership saying I'm back.
Speaker 2:It's not the mothership, it wasn't the mothership.
Speaker 1:You're right. I know that how you think that would be harder for them to get than who was president, that Calvin Coolidge was born on the fourth of July. But whatever, that's fine. No, I mean it's a guess, but it's like very american. It's very surprised you didn't say which two presidents died. Died on the fourth of july would have been a better one.
Speaker 2:But okay, well where are we?
Speaker 1:we're at the 13th, 12th question here. Which us state is known as the birthplace of the american revolution? Massachusetts, virginia, pennsylvania or new york? I guess massachusetts. Which US state is known as the birthplace of the American Revolution? Massachusetts, virginia, pennsylvania or New York? I guess Massachusetts. That's correct. Which actor starred in the 1989 film Born on the? Fourth of July directed by Oliver Stone. This is not a multiple choice.
Speaker 1:Tom Cruise, you ever see that movie? Yes, I saw the first 15 minutes of it and then I don't know why I never finished it. When he was like Syracuse Does it At the beginning of that movie.
Speaker 2:He's like a real all-American guy at high school, right, I think he's a wrestler in high school and then he asked this girl to go to prom with him or something, and she tells him no.
Speaker 1:So he joins the military instead. I think he was always going to join the military, I think he was just that kind of a guy.
Speaker 2:Maybe he was already in there.
Speaker 1:And then Willem Dafoe, just mans up. I think he's in that okay is that I I think you're whatever.
Speaker 2:Yeah, willem dafoe, he meets him in mexico and they're both like pissed off.
Speaker 1:Like at that point there are, they're both like pissed off. That's like randy little, randy quaid s, you might say, but I don't think they're flying fighter jets. Okay, which two frenemy presidents died on july 4th 1826? The 50th anniversary the 50th anniversary of the signing of the Declaration of Independence.
Speaker 2:Thomas Jefferson.
Speaker 1:James Monroe, john Adams, james Madison. If instead of like frenemies, maybe you could be like on again, off again, friends or something would be kind of funnier way to say it. I think frenemy encapsulate on again. This thing also has a character limit. I should have said that. I probably should preface that.
Speaker 2:Thomas.
Speaker 1:Jefferson and John Adams. That is correct. Did you know that John Adams thought Thomas Jefferson? His last words were Thomas Jefferson still lives.
Speaker 2:I think so.
Speaker 1:Was he. He didn't know that he didn't know. Yeah, on July 4th of this year. Were they the last two of the revolutionary generation to die, kind of? I think Charles Carroll was yeah, but I mean you're thinking of the heavy hitters. They were the last two. Charles Carroll was a pretty big heavy hitter. Well in pop culture.
Speaker 2:Maybe you should ask that question National.
Speaker 1:Treasure, they asked.
Speaker 2:He's like the last founding father referenced in National Treasure, so you finally watched it huh, I learned that. So you finally watched it. It's a house that he owned you finally watched it.
Speaker 1:You finally watched it. Huh yeah, Talk about Charles. Carrow Couldn't wait for me it's all right. Mr R Wanted to watch it. Mr R wanted to watch it I think it was on and then we paused it and watched it and then the second one. That's got me all chapped up. The second one's good, first one's great. I'd re-watch it. I mean we probably should do it. That's a good movie review. I said that but you were like not about it. But then I guess I don't know. Mr R, good for him. Charles.
Speaker 2:Carroll died at 1832. I guess he listened to him more than me. That's fine.
Speaker 1:Okay, keep going. Last of the Romans, as they say Okay. On July 4th of this year, france formally presented the Statue of Liberty to the US Ambassador in Paris. 1848, 1914, 1865, 1884.
Speaker 1:1884 1884 correct that number four, that question four and this one's a little spicy because we got italian connections at my work. That's all I'll say. This italian patriot was born on july 4th 1807 and offered a commission in the union army during the american civil war. Camillo benzo. Italian patriot, was born on July 4th 1807 and offered a commission in the Union Army during the American Civil War Camillo Benzo di Cavour, giuseppe Garibaldi, giuseppe Mazzini, victor Emmanuel II. Stupid question, doesn't matter. We got Italian blood at my work. See the third one, giuseppe Mazzini.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Incorrect Garibaldi, really. Yeah, that's the Garibaldi. Yeah, he was born in America. He wasn't born in America.
Speaker 1:I didn't say that he was born on the 4th of July and offered a commission in the Union Army, but he refused it because the war aim for Lincoln wasn't to end slavery at that time. Okay, they should have a movie about Garibaldi called Port of the 4th of July. I mean, he lived, he made candles up in Staten Island for a while he was in the US. I want to go see that. All right, which American founding father, diplomat and author gave birth to inventions such as the lightning rod and bifocals? You learned this on the podcast. I know that I'm well aware. And a national treasure, I'm well aware, ben Benjamin Franklin, right you are. This city is considered the birthplace of rock and roll. Nashville, memphis, chicago, detroit, I guess Nashville incorrect Memphis.
Speaker 1:I didn't have all. If I would add all the cities in front of me, I might have guessed that on July 4th.
Speaker 2:That's just because of.
Speaker 1:Elvis. No Sun Records. Yeah Sun Records. On July 4th 1865, representatives of this nine-year-old country voted to be quote born again as a state via annexation to the US Texas Correct. Which musical artist released the rock anthem Born in the USA in 1984? John Mellencamp, bob Dylan, bruce Springsteen, tom Petty? You don't need to have a multiple choice for that one. I was thinking the same thing. Okay, I'll take it away. Bruce Springsteen, that song is about Vietnam veterans. I know rainy quades among us don't need multiple choice. Okay, I will fix that. I agree, I was thinking the same thing.
Speaker 2:I'm like that answer sounds down in a dead like that answer. The first kick I took was when I hit the crown. End up like a dog that's been beat too much till you spend half your life just covering up now. Born in the usa. I was born in the usa. I was born in the usa all talking daddy or something.
Speaker 1:What was that? Line dude I was just thinking that it's not in here, cool walking daddy, cool talking, walking daddy or something. Oh yeah, no, it's at the end Born in the US. I'm a long gone daddy in the USA. Yeah, I guess the last line is I'm a cool rocking daddy in the USA. Whatever, sorry. Steve Rogers, born July 4th 1918, 1918 would go on to be this superhero after captain america super soldier program in war war ii.
Speaker 1:Uh-oh, I lost you there. I'm correct, right? Uh-oh, you good, I'm good, all right, you've like? Guess you might need a new upgrade to the internet. Steve Rogers, captain America, that's what I said. Okay, was it? Were you gonna do that one multiple choice, you? You broke up there on my own. No, it was not multiple choice. Okay, this colony established you like that movie. Were you going to do that one multiple choice? You broke up there on my end. No, it was not multiple choice. Okay, this colony established in 16.
Speaker 2:Do you like?
Speaker 1:that movie. I just saw the recent one. That was pretty much the first one. That's probably not good Trash. Well, when they like Harrison Ford, well, just like.
Speaker 1:But he's not even Steve Rogers, it's a different guy, right yeah, different soldier, yeah well because, like they, captain america, he, he, like the end of have you seen all the marvel movies? No well, spoil alert any elicitors? I don't know how much it matters, but at the end of, at the end of the like first timeline or whatever, like at the end of like the main core of the marvel movies, he goes back in time and then like lives his life like he wouldn't have missed because, like the whole thing is, he gets frozen and then he wakes up in like present day, um, oh so he goes back, like yeah, so, and then when he does that, he kind of like gives, passes the torch on to somebody um, anthony, what's his name? The guy in the new movie? Yeah, the heck's that guy's name? Anthony Mackie. Yes, okay, I keep going. Sorry, got derailed there. All right, it's all right. Oh, shoot. So what question is? Oh man, I'm running out of tallies.
Speaker 2:I think I got two more.
Speaker 1:It's 21 or 22. I don't know where we're at. All, right, keep going. I think we're at question 22. Oh man, you're really breaking up here. My stuff's fine Interesting. Okay, keep going. This colony, established in 1607, is where the first permanent English settlement in North America was born. Oh, with an E or without an E? No, it's not the name of the settlement. Oh wait, what's the question? It said this colony, established in 1607, is where the first permanent English settlement in North.
Speaker 1:America was born. Is this going to be multiple choice or no? No, that's a good question. Virginia Right Could say colony of Virginia.
Speaker 1:Jamestown is not correct. Jamestown was a settlement in the colony of Virginia. Then we had another quiz. Then I got another leaderboard. Where's the oh wait? So I'm Matt, and then they get pretty easy. Then we had another quiz. Then I got another leaderboard. Where's the oh wait? So I'm at. And then they get pretty easy. And back to being easy. I thought that one was easier than the first one. Huh, one, two, three, four, five. You did pretty good there. Okay, I'm at. Uh, I think I'm at 16. I think I'm at 16.
Speaker 2:Ew, ew.
Speaker 1:Cool rock daddy in the USA. Okay, here's another easy one. What year was the Declaration of Independence signed? 1776, 1783, 1775, 1781. What were the choices? 1776, 1783,83, 1775, 1781. I was thinking I should not make this one multiple choice, but near seemed to 1776. What do you think should I?
Speaker 1:it's like the date that anyone throws around well, I honestly think that throwing 1775 in there makes it a more complicated question, kind of Because the war started in 1775, kind of. Yeah, so it makes it a little bit more complicated. It adds a little bit. It adds more to it. If you have that, having the choices makes it a little bit more. It adds a little bit. It adds more to it, if you have that.
Speaker 2:Having. The choices makes it a little bit.
Speaker 1:If you're going to have the choices in 1775 is one of the choices that makes it a little bit more challenging. I think so, okay, cool. No multiple choice. Who was the principal author of the Declaration of Independence? Tommy Jay, that's right, our boy. What do the 13 stripes of the american flag represent? 13 founding fathers, 13 amendments, 13 original colonies, 13 years of independence. I feel like this shouldn't be multiple choice colonies. Okay, you don't think so?
Speaker 2:no, okay I'm a cool.
Speaker 1:I'm a cool trivia daddy in the usa, okay moving on, which state was the first to recognize the 4th of July as a state holiday? As a state holiday, huh, delaware, massachusetts again. Okay, like within.
Speaker 2:The 1780s.
Speaker 1:Okay, I don't know why I said Delaware. That's stupid. What is the name of the famous bell that rang to mark the signing of the decoration of independence, recently visited by Billy Corgan? Or?
Speaker 2:William Corgan and his family smashing pumpkins children.
Speaker 1:They actually talked about that on a WMR the next day after I sent you that tweet. They were talking about it. Oh, really cool to see he was taking. He was taking in the sites in Philadelphia. Apparently he has some side project called Billy Corgan and the Mothers of God or some ridiculous name. They were playing at a TLA, that's why he was in town. Oh, the Liberty Bell, that's right. And the Machines of God. Sorry, billy Corgan and the Machines of God Sounds like a Frank Zappa name. Frank Zappa and the Mothers of Invention Sounds like a channeling him. Which founding father is known for his large signature on the Declaration of Independence? No, multiple choice. Ace of Spades, john Hancock. I got to think of Tommy Boy saying John Hancock it was Herbie Hancock.
Speaker 2:What is the?
Speaker 1:official name of the US National Anthem, the Star Spangled Banner. You're going to do a multiple choice on that? I wasn't going to. Yeah, that's fine. You're just very inconsistent with the difficulty that you want to make this thing, I think. But it's fine. Well, that's why I need help. I need help. So what should? So that should be multiple choice. Do I need a?
Speaker 2:hard and fast.
Speaker 1:I, I feel like probably Only numbers, like only the years and numbers get multiple choices and everything else you have to type in. I don't know. I'll have to re-listen to the episode and give you my feedback, which founding father from Virginia famously said give me liberty or give me death, not multiple choice. That's a tough, not multiple choice one. Well, half these kids are american educated. Some of them not all of them, but most of them I bet I would be curious how many people actually would be able to say that, oh, no one's gonna get this one right but that's where you're separating, that's where I'm separating the uh, it's fourth of July.
Speaker 2:This is.
Speaker 1:American history. I don't know what do you want me to tell you people, sir Patrick Henry, correct. How many delegates signed the US Declaration of Independence? 62, 48, 84, 56. I don't know that one. 56? Correct, boom. In what year did the US Congress make the 4th of July a federal holiday? 1896, 1924, 1870, 1912. I'm thinking, probably not 24. Well, 1912, the Titanic. What was the 18 one? 1896, 1870. 1870, right after the Civil War. I could see that I'm going to say 1870. Correct, just rubbing it in. Just rubbing it in. Last question, in what city was the Declaration of Independence written, signed and adopted?
Speaker 2:Philadelphia.
Speaker 1:I didn't give that away in the Liberty Belt one did I? No, I don't think I did.
Speaker 2:That's it.
Speaker 1:Literally just an exercise, to just have a. What do you think?
Speaker 2:What do I think?
Speaker 1:Yeah, we had to do. I don't know. I feel like I missed something that I got right. I was kind of preoccupied, but 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10.
Speaker 1:I got, I think, 26. But I could have missed missing one. It might be 27 or maybe 28. 79% have missed missing one. It might be 27 or maybe 28. 79 I thought you said to pass I needed like a 29, 29 or something out of 33. Yeah, passing is over 70. No, not in this, not for a amateur historian enthusiast who's been doing a podcast for 15, 16 months yeah, but the questions that I got wrong were the stupid ones.
Speaker 1:Oh who? Which president was born on the 4th of July? How am I supposed to know that? Did you know that before you looked it up? Yeah, exactly, john shaking his head. No, for the fans. You know the other president who died on the 4th of July. I didn't include this as a question, but just you could have seen. You could have seen his headstone if you just got out of your car. Didn't wimp out, I did wimp out. Was that Monroe, madison, monroe, monroe. Tuberculosis gets them all, gets every time rough way to go. What do you think? It was pretty?
Speaker 2:It was fine. It wasn't like wow, that was great trivia.
Speaker 1:I'm so happy we did it. I think if I were to do that at work I would have just be kind of like, well, at least I didn't have to work. Sure beats work. That's kind of what they're going for. I feel like you should throw in a to-do. Cusco question.
Speaker 2:Bonus.
Speaker 1:What did he do on 4th of July? You?
Speaker 1:should do like Cusco Monument at West Point was dedicated on July 4th 1828. I think it'd be cool if you did like a Like. You did Like, if you made it like who Wants to Be a Millionaire? Remember that show where the easy questions they would have like as the multiple choice, they would have three legitimate questions and multiple choice. They would have like three legitimate questions and then one of them was like crazy. So if you did something like what was, what did the? What was dumped into the Boston Harbor to protest taxes, and you could say like you could say mine, you could say wine, tea, ammunition, or like gunpowder or poop, like that would be funny, like have it, make it, have it fun like that. Yeah and no, it's fine, it's bland, it's bland, it's just your, your typical chat, gpt, written trivia, I'm sure, which is fine. Um, you know, just a matter of how you present it.
Speaker 1:I guess would be, you know it's good well, I'm presenting it on this no one's gonna say no one's gonna say you did a bad job. An opportunity for you to plug the show. Maybe I'll try, like uh, make it a question be like what podcast started?
Speaker 2:as your head starring, your host, starting, yeah by your host.
Speaker 1:You could just like not say you do it, just you know, just say like which podcast that started in. Which hit podcast which hit podcast started in 2024 ranked the founding fathers using a deck of playing cards. You could be like we're not aware that it had already existed. You could be like History Ninjas.
Speaker 1:History Ninjas the Nailing History Podcast, chuck Senti's Brigade yeah, that would be a good one. And then just don't, even, don't even say anything. And then, like, everyone gets it wrong, like, I guess, no, I thought everyone listened to that podcast. Boom, it's easy as that, it's easy as that no, they just what you do, these things public speaking, getting getting up presentation skills, I mean, yeah, we'll just see how it all goes. Though You're not good at that, I think I'll be fine. Yeah, it's a little dry, but I think we'll be fine.
Speaker 2:Are you going?
Speaker 1:to wear? Are you going to wear a suit? Are you a game show host? Yeah, I should be wearing like a 4th of July tie. At minimum, you should dress like Will Ferrell in that SNL bit when he comes in to work. I don't know if that was for the 4th of July, but it was for like it might have been. It was like Memorial Day or something. He came in dressed like he had some Speedo on or something. Oh yeah, with the crop top. Yeah, that would be awesome if he showed up like that dude. It really would. It would. That would be awesome if you showed up like that dude. It really would. That would make up for how dry the trivia was.
Speaker 1:I truly think my suggestion of making one of the answers funny could be fun for a couple of them. Okay, so for the multiple choice ones, obviously, yeah, I think you might be able to. You know you have a question about the Iran bombing on there too. Just dust that one in there, oh my God. So when would the confederate states have celebrated their independence day? Do you know? I don't. February 8th, my birthday, no way. It says the confederacy was formed on february 8th 1861 by south carolina, mississippi, florida, alabama, georgia, louisiana and texas how did you not know that they adopted a new constitution establishing a confederation government of sovereign and independent states?
Speaker 1:how did you not know that it was on your birthday? I just did not well anything else to leave him with john. No, we need your feedback. As we said, we need your feedback on the trivia as soon as possible so john can make the changes. When. When is your? When it when? They want to draft they want to draft by tuesday, like two days from now yeah well, you can always.
Speaker 1:That's just a draft. Yeah, they're making it pretty official yeah wow a lot of pressure. Well, they just don't want anything to be offensive, aka wearing a speedo that they wouldn't know about. That obviously they might not, I know it's dry. I know it's dry, but I think I just gotta like let my personality come through and just I'll try to just get the crowd.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that works.
Speaker 1:Yeah, do a little crowd do a little crowd work. Yeah, let your let your personality come through. That'll really spice it up, I'm sure. Let the crowd do a little crowd work. You, dude, make some of the answers funny. It would add to it. I think you're right. Which US?
Speaker 1:president was born on the 4th of July. Okay, fine, it's Calvin Coolidge, but what were the other three? Well, that wouldn't be one that you would make as being funny, unless you mean it's something ridiculous Like a not real president. That you would make as being funny unless you mean it's something ridiculous like what's the name? Like a, like a not real president, like I don't even know how. How would you make that?
Speaker 1:answer probably who sponsors the largest fireworks display in the US, macy's. So target Amazon or Kohl's. Which should? I Hooters that would be funny.
Speaker 2:I would laugh.
Speaker 1:Manny DeVore Enron that would be funny kids would get that one how would they? Lehman Brothers Ocean Gate, the people who were responsible for that submarine that imploded. Look, go to the Titanic. I just got to. I just got to. Just I just got to. I'm going to be known as the boring trivia guy at work. That's just what I'm gotta. Just I just gotta. It's gonna be known as the boring trivia guy at work. That's just what I'm gonna be now.
Speaker 2:I'm just gonna be the boring trivia guy.
Speaker 1:I don't know what to do. Alright, well, you can, we can. You can think of that off air. You got anything else to leave anyone with? I wanna say thanks for hanging in there. Fans any new fans are hanging with us. Thanks for anyone who decided to take the plunge and start going through our back catalog. I'll just tell myself that those eight downloads were all from the same person A real, a real, a real gem of a fan. Um, yeah, thanks for. Thanks for hanging with. A real gem of a fan. Yeah, thanks for hanging with and we love you guys. All right, well, let's stop dilly-dallying around. Good luck on your trivia. Thank you so much. I ask that you stay curious and keep listening. Give us our feedback on trivia, and feedback on trivia would be much obliged. We have time, I have time. So thank you so much. Nothing like waiting for the last minute.
Speaker 2:Don't need it for another week and a half come on, man, I got hairy legs and we say bye, bye.