045: (Most Of) Signal The Skies

We open with gear talk and end in the heart of a song: VHS is a haunted look at memory, written to feel like a choice to sink and a choice to surface. We map the track’s story, share mix decisions, and chart the EP’s path with honest timelines and a clear creative brief.

• VHS as nostalgic grief framed as a ghost that pulls you under
• Breakdowns, syncopation, and when rhythm serves story
• Haunting cover art motifs and a visual language of hands
• Distribution via UnitedMasters and discovery beyond social
• EP scope, interlude plans, and realistic delivery window
• Finding a cleaner vocal identity and redoing older tracks

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Transcript

Gear Talk, Velcro, and Pedals

SPEAKER_02 0:00

Here you go.

SPEAKER_04 0:00

It'd be weird to be like.

SPEAKER_02 0:01

Merry birthday, dude.

SPEAKER_03 0:02

Why did you give me this? Well, you said you the other one was Well, it still works. I just don't know why I would plug this into it and it just wouldn't Oh, that's okay.

SPEAKER_02 0:10

I'm supplied with power cords and power strips and if you need some Velcro straps too, dude. I got you. Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 0:20

Dude, I got mad Velcro strips.

SPEAKER_02 0:22

Dude, I love so instead of using zip ties now at work, I started actually doing Velcro strips just because it's less of a hassle, and like instead of having to cut the the ends off or whatever, you just tighten it. And it's like and my boss likes it more too because it just looks more clean. And and then when you're doing maintenance or any type of fixing, you're not gonna scratch the heck out of your hands when you rub next to them.

SPEAKER_01 0:45

Yep. So and they stick to the carpet.

SPEAKER_02 0:48

Yeah. Yeah. Cool.

SPEAKER_00 0:53

I've learned so much about Velcro.

SPEAKER_02 0:55

Dude, Velcro's nice. It becomes a really you use it instead of what? Uh uh screw ties or zip ties.

SPEAKER_00 1:02

Screw ties?

SPEAKER_02 1:03

There's screw ties and zip ties. No. No.

SPEAKER_03 1:08

No, it's pretty heavy duty. Guess I learned something new every day.

SPEAKER_02 1:11

You do, dude. That's how it goes in life. You just learn and you just learn and you learn.

SPEAKER_03 1:16

Oh, by the way, remember when you made fun of me for not having a pedal board? Sitting right there.

SPEAKER_02 1:22

He's still a fancy. He's got cool pedals, too. He's got that.

SPEAKER_03 1:24

They're not all cool.

SPEAKER_02 1:25

He's got that Alpha Omega pedal.

SPEAKER_03 1:28

That's the one that I brought.

SPEAKER_02 1:29

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:31

That is very biblical. Chorus. MXR envelope.

SPEAKER_02 1:35

Yeah. The preamp. The envelope one is my favorite. You should just start incorporating some of that in one of our songs.

SPEAKER_03 1:41

I don't think it would work.

SPEAKER_02 1:43

Why not?

SPEAKER_03 1:43

Because it's more, it's mostly like a funk pedal.

SPEAKER_02 1:46

Dude, we'll write a funky, funky thing.

SPEAKER_03 1:49

I mean like 70s funk.

SPEAKER_02 1:51

Oh. How would you describe the sound on the It's almost like a wah, but it's like more. It's like bubbles. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 2:00

It sounds like bubbles.

SPEAKER_02 2:01

Yeah. I was gonna say, instead of it being like an actual like wah where like the the wave would look like this, it's more like a Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 2:12

Yeah. I don't know if I go with that route.

unknown 2:15

No?

SPEAKER_02 2:15

No. I feel like that's a pretty good description.

SPEAKER_03 2:19

If you look at it in a if you ever listen, do you know Thundercat?

SPEAKER_01 2:23

The show?

SPEAKER_03 2:24

No, Thundercat Thundercat is uh is a bassist. He uses it. I think he's like popularizing it a little bit for like modern day. Yeah. Okay. Other than that, I don't really know. I'm sure who's the guy who's superhero cat thing?

unknown 2:40

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 2:42

Who's the guy who used the star base? I can't think of the Bootsy County. Bootsy County. Yeah. He uses that pedal too, I would imagine.

unknown 2:50

Dang.

SPEAKER_01 2:51

The funk.

SPEAKER_02 2:52

Yeah. That's so fun. Dude, we could do like a funky 70s style thing. Imagine like a 70s style like breakdown, but it's like really, really groovy. That'd be fun.

SPEAKER_03 3:04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 3:05

A little bit of syncopation, like uh the one band, um Thank You Scientist. Kind of like how they would do like a thing when they might write a breakdown, but it's like super funky, and they got all the all the French horns and stuff like that.

SPEAKER_03 3:16

And they got like the fiddle.

SPEAKER_02 3:17

Yeah. Have you heard of that band? Oh my gosh. Thank you, Scientist is one of the weirdest bands.

SPEAKER_03 3:24

They I don't think they're that weird because it's palatable.

SPEAKER_02 3:26

It's like the vocalist is like Koh Heat and Cambria style vocalist. And then you don't like Koh Heat and Cambria? No, I like that.

SPEAKER_01 3:33

Oh, but he's like he's like Getty Lee high pitched.

SPEAKER_02 3:35

Yeah. He's got he's got like a high pitch, but like it's I would say that they're more like rush style. Rush?

SPEAKER_03 3:43

With more yeah, with more instrument instrumentation in it.

SPEAKER_02 3:48

Yeah, they're really, really cool. Like like um There's like nine members or something.

Meet Signal the Skies

SPEAKER_03 3:52

Yeah, probably. Anyway, I forgot to do introductions. So this is the majority of Signal Disguise. Unfortunately, Jay couldn't make it today, our drummer.

SPEAKER_02 4:03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 4:03

But everybody else introduced yourself. Everybody knows me, so we'll go this way. Who are you? I'm Caleb. What do you do? I weld.

SPEAKER_00 4:13

For the band.

SPEAKER_03 4:15

For the band. I play bass. Guitar. Yeah, I play the big guitar.

SPEAKER_02 4:19

The big guitar, dude. I'm Andy. I'm the vocalist slash guitar writer player, I guess I would say. For the band. CEO of the band.

unknown 4:31

CEO.

SPEAKER_03 4:32

Chief Executive Officer. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 4:34

Okay. Continue.

SPEAKER_01 4:37

Uh, I'm Anna.

SPEAKER_02 4:39

She just joined. How fun.

SPEAKER_01 4:42

I play guitar.

SPEAKER_02 4:44

Nice. Anything else?

SPEAKER_01 4:46

Do I?

SPEAKER_02 4:47

No, I don't know. Maybe not. I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 4:48

Love to find out.

SPEAKER_02 4:49

Yeah, we'll figure that out at some point. On the next EP.

SPEAKER_01 4:53

The mandolin, maybe.

SPEAKER_02 4:55

Did you redo?

SPEAKER_03 4:56

Are you talking about the upcoming EP?

SPEAKER_02 4:58

No. No. Oh more EPs.

SPEAKER_03 5:01

So you're not playing on any of the songs, like the singles. No, she is now.

SPEAKER_02 5:06

So funny enough, she'll be starting to write more for like the last three songs. Really incorporate her skill in the next few. I think it'd be appropriate.

SPEAKER_00 5:17

I'm Bree, and I was supposed to just be doing some piano stuff, and then Andy dragged me into vocals.

SPEAKER_02 5:24

I had to beg her.

SPEAKER_00 5:27

It's a good time.

SPEAKER_03 5:27

It was a good time. So you hate singing.

SPEAKER_00 5:30

I think I'm a terrible singer. You're an awesome singer. Really? I do. I truly listen, the only person that had heard me sing was a friend from college, and he pushed me to like share my music, and then Andy was sharing his music. And so I had shared something, and Andy's like, dude, you gotta be on a song. And like that's like my parents didn't even know that I like to sing.

SPEAKER_02 5:53

Dude, going back, yeah, it starts off because like, yeah, I was just sending her. This is like literally when I started sending Leaving. Yeah. And then Brue was like, Oh, this has a lot of potential. And then Leaving came out, and then I started writing Pneumonia. Probably like my favorite song that I've ever written, besides all the other ones. Yeah, it's a good one. They're all my favorites. I love them all. But pneumonia.

SPEAKER_03 6:13

You can't have multiple favorites. Okay.

SPEAKER_02 6:16

You have to pick one. All right, dude. All right. My favorite one will have to be pneumonia, just because it's just, I don't know. It's so raw and so emotional. And it's so simple at the same time. And this is like the one song that actually doesn't have like a breakdown in it. Well, if I was happy, it doesn't have a breakdown either.

SPEAKER_03 6:34

Are you gonna put a breakdown on every song?

SPEAKER_02 6:37

No, I'm gonna try not to.

SPEAKER_03 6:38

I want to be more because it's value.

SPEAKER_02 6:41

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 6:42

If you keep doing it.

SPEAKER_02 6:43

Yeah. But which is why I start doing like really random rhythms. If any if all of you notice, Anna actually, we were talking about this earlier today, and I was like, I write the most annoying breakdowns possible. Just to have give it the most randomest syncopated rhythm possible where it doesn't make sense half the time.

SPEAKER_03 7:00

You better hope the music theorists don't listen to this and come after you once they hear it. They might not agree.

SPEAKER_02 7:04

Dude, they might like it.

SPEAKER_03 7:05

They might like it. I'm just saying they might also be like, dude, you can do it.

SPEAKER_02 7:11

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 7:12

Well, get your powerpoint right.

SPEAKER_02 7:16

Sometimes I want to hit the polyghums. Well, sometimes I want to hit it on the E instead of the and.

SPEAKER_03 7:22

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 7:22

You know? Yeah. But um, oh yeah. Anyway, going back to the story, uh, I shared pneumonia with Bree, and I originally like sang on the bridge, and I was like, hey, you know, I can't remember how I said it.

SPEAKER_00 7:37

Well, I shared something with you that I was working on. Oh, that's right. And then you were like, hey, you should really sing on this, and I'm like, absolutely not.

Writing, Breakdowns, and Syncopation

SPEAKER_02 7:43

Yeah, no, that's exactly how it went. I shared pneumonia and then she shared something back, and she was singing on it, and I was like, it would be really cool to like get a different vocalist for the like for this song then. And I was like, a female vocalist is like top tier when it comes to a metal song. A lot of a lot of metal frontline uh or women frontline bands are super super popular. So I was like, let's get Brie on it. And it took forever for me to convince her. And then she came back and she's like, Alright, here's this. This is just a yeah, I was like, just listen.

SPEAKER_00 8:16

You can hate it and delete it and not do anything.

SPEAKER_02 8:19

And then I listened to it, and then it was just it it worked perfectly. And then when her harmonies came in, I'm like, she's gotta be on this song. There's no doubt about it.

SPEAKER_03 8:28

This is all a story that I haven't heard because I wasn't part. I joined later.

SPEAKER_02 8:34

Yeah. You joined, you joined post yeah, like lately. Lately is when you came back.

SPEAKER_03 8:40

Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 8:40

Oh wow. I was gonna actually have him write bass for pneumonia and violet, and then we had different musicians. We broke up for a minute, and then we're now back together. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 8:57

Destiny. For those of you who don't know, Andy is actually married to a woman.

SPEAKER_02 9:00

I am. Don't worry. You know, talking about marriage, I forgot my ring. I'm so screwed. Did you better not have your hand on the camera though?

SPEAKER_03 9:08

There's gonna be a lot of single ladies. Oh no. That's why Stefan hasn't been back.

SPEAKER_02 9:13

He's probably been caught by all the ladies. JK.

SPEAKER_00 9:18

I was just gonna let that pop through that.

SPEAKER_03 9:21

I have no comment. Actually, I'm doing one with him tomorrow. Yeah, him and Ethan.

SPEAKER_02 9:29

Oh. I miss both of those guys. I'm coming in. I'm gonna interrupt.

SPEAKER_03 9:33

Maybe I'll ask them if you can come on.

SPEAKER_02 9:36

Well, why ask them it's your podcast? What?

SPEAKER_03 9:41

Oh, because it's because the one that we're doing is your red flannel boys. Yeah, it's like the special ones that come out.

SPEAKER_04 9:48

This is my podcast.

SPEAKER_03 9:50

Maybe they can maybe they'll be if they don't want to do it under that logo or whatever, then that's why. Okay. It's not telling me for the first time.

SPEAKER_02 9:58

Dang. Alright. Well, let me know. If not.

SPEAKER_03 10:00

But they're gonna it's gonna be about the Charlie Kirk thing.

SPEAKER_00 10:04

So well, we just got canceled, alright.

SPEAKER_03 10:10

Cancelled?

SPEAKER_02 10:11

We can't talk about that stuff. Yeah, I can't bring that up. Oh, really? Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 10:14

That's crazy.

SPEAKER_02 10:14

Just be careful.

SPEAKER_00 10:15

It's a hot topic right now.

SPEAKER_02 10:17

It is a hot topic. Did you speak just to get off tangent? Did you notice that people are like theorizing and like looking closer into that whole entire thing and how they're like don't let me go down that rabbit hole.

SPEAKER_00 10:27

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 10:28

I'm just gonna I'm just gonna leave it at that. I've already gone down all the conspiracies.

SPEAKER_00 10:32

We gotta chat later. Not recording.

SPEAKER_02 10:34

Yeah, we're talking about music today.

SPEAKER_03 10:35

Well, there's no rules to this podcast. You can talk about anything. I just wanted to have the people from the band on and then also talk about the new single, which comes out in two uh two weeks or two weeks recording.

SPEAKER_02 10:49

Yeah, two weeks-ish. So now that we think about it, we we can talk about it here too. I think it'd be great. Um the plan for our new single to come out, VHS, is October 17th, which is great. It's got some spooky vibes to it, really fly leaf style is um what a couple people have been saying for this one, which I like because I love fly leaf. Um so October 17th would would be a pretty cool time because it's like a little bit before Halloween, so that way people can give it a give it a listen, give it a chance, and hopefully it carries on. Maybe we'll it'll go on some spooky TikToks or something like that. It'd be sweet.

SPEAKER_03 11:29

Okay, so now that we're on the subject, what is the story behind this song? Because I I don't even know.

SPEAKER_02 11:35

I don't think. Um Brie kind of took a little bit of a lead on this one.

SPEAKER_00 11:39

Yeah, I did the lyrics for this song. Oh, really? I did.

SPEAKER_02 11:43

Oh, okay.

How Bree Joined and Vocal Harmonies

SPEAKER_00 11:44

Um, so the s story kind of behind it, so there's the metaphor of the ghost like dragging me deeper into my memories, and the idea is like when you're thinking of a time in the past that you kind of miss, you're kind of mourning or grieving, you wish you were still there, and you let your mind just go there and drown for a little bit. You're like, I just want to think about this, I just want to mourn this a little bit, or or even if it was a happy time, not even a sad time, but uh you just life is different and it's not like that anymore. And you're like, you know what? I'm just I'm good to just kind of drown in my memories here for a little bit. So that's the metaphor of my ghost is like my past self drags me deeper and I don't mind. I'm good to drown here.

SPEAKER_02 12:26

Yeah. Yeah, just to add on to that too, because it's like one of those things where you just become so reminiscent on everything, you you miss those times, and so it's kind of like a like a melancholic feel because you're like, Oh, I can't go back to that. I can't, you know, rewind. And so it's like calling it VHS was a little bit of a vibe for for that.

SPEAKER_03 12:46

Um, okay, so it's supposed to be like nostalgic, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 12:49

Yeah. So yeah, no, the lyrics are super good. I think, yeah, Bree to pretty much wrote all of them except the bridge. I think the bridge was just mainly my part. So, and yeah, just kind of adding on top of that, you know, like who knows if I'll ever get it back, you know, because you're just there. And so, yeah, it becomes a really cool thing. And we just actually got done with our little bit of a photo shoe for like promo stuff.

SPEAKER_04 13:15

Oh, um, yesterday. Um, it was sweet.

SPEAKER_02 13:18

Yeah, my friend or our friend, it's Anna's friend too, uh, Britt.

SPEAKER_00 13:22

I'm pretty sure we're friends now.

SPEAKER_02 13:24

Oh yeah, you guys are like besties now. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 13:26

Wait, photo shoot.

SPEAKER_02 13:28

Yeah, yeah. Well, like for the album cover or like the the cover for the for the song and then like a couple promos and like putting the canvas up on Spotify and stuff like that. Oh that's how we're able to do all like the cool videos that we've been doing on Spotify, instead of it just being like the picture of the cover.

SPEAKER_00 13:46

Yeah, not a band photo. We you didn't you didn't miss anything.

SPEAKER_02 13:49

No, don't worry.

SPEAKER_03 13:50

I was hoping I did. But just Photoshop Kay look at the Photoshop my old the other one that we have.

SPEAKER_02 13:58

That was that was a really good picture of you.

SPEAKER_03 14:01

Thank you.

SPEAKER_02 14:03

Flattered blushing and looking at Andy, beautiful. I know. It's like it's so easy now. Well, easy to make me blush. Yeah. Yeah. Overall, yeah, no, VH, um, but just getting into it, I think there's just a little bit of a struggle with like kind of the what's going on with the mix. And I think I don't know. What do you guys think? Like, do you guys think we can just real quick bring it back to Landon, who, if nobody knows Landon mixes and masters our songs, and he's been doing it since uh Violet.

SPEAKER_03 14:41

And so Well, we all know my ultimate opinion, but yeah, I do think that it needs to go back. Go back. I should show it to you on my headphones after this. Yeah. Because it like it it sounds like they're gonna explode.

SPEAKER_02 14:56

Really?

SPEAKER_03 14:57

Yes. That's kind of scary. I wonder lower volume, like I can feel the little speaker rumbling.

SPEAKER_02 15:03

Ooh, I wonder, I wonder if he did max out on his like overall.

SPEAKER_00 15:07

I would be curious to actually see the mix, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 15:10

Yeah. I know I keep funny enough, I keep telling him, I'm like, Landon, while you're mixing, take some videos for me, because I would love some of this stuff to post it on her.

SPEAKER_03 15:21

What if he doesn't want people to know his secret?

SPEAKER_01 15:24

His secrets.

SPEAKER_03 15:25

Well, it's like that's gonna get sausage.

SPEAKER_04 15:28

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 15:30

You can't give away. Well, that just means they're copying Landon and that gives him all the boobs.

SPEAKER_03 15:37

No, because then it takes business away from him.

SPEAKER_00 15:40

New sausage from Landon.

SPEAKER_03 15:42

Because if uh they can have their own thing. If if like so you know how there's like guitar teachers on YouTube and stuff teaching you all all their secrets, it's like they're doing that because their secrets aren't very good. And then otherwise they'd be like, otherwise people would be learning their bass lines. People would have videos of them too. It's kind of the same thing.

SPEAKER_02 16:09

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 16:10

So if he gave away all the secrets, maybe he thinks it's the best way to do things and he wants to do it.

SPEAKER_02 16:18

Well, I think it would still save him because it's like we don't have to tag him. People would just know what our producing is.

SPEAKER_03 16:24

But they would still know how he's doing it. It doesn't matter if his name is in there. Like, oh, I don't know this guy's name, so I can't copy his tactics.

SPEAKER_02 16:32

Yeah, dude. That's exactly how it should work. Well, that's not how it works.

SPEAKER_03 16:37

Wishful thinking. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 16:40

But even if it was just like a little bit of B-roll, you don't even have to see specifics of what he's doing.

Social Media Boundaries and Topic Detour

SPEAKER_02 16:44

Yeah, if you did like a really cool time-lapse video. His computer is just all black and he's just like working. It doesn't even look like he's doing it.

SPEAKER_03 16:52

No, just like make it like uh what they do when they have to like censor certain pictures on YouTube. Just a big tag censored. That or just like make it like blurry. Pixelated. Pixelated. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 17:04

I like that. Yeah. We just need to bring it back. So we'll see if it if it does stick to being October 17th. Um, but yeah, it would be really cool if we could still put it that. If not, still soon. Push it. Still. Yeah. If if we need to push it a week, it's not gonna hurt my feelings. I mean, overall, it's like we're we're still putting music out, which is great.

SPEAKER_03 17:24

Plus, John's flipped album comes out on October 17th as well.

SPEAKER_02 17:28

Who even is John? Just kidding. He was great. He he was on one of our songs too, and he actually made that song super fun.

SPEAKER_03 17:36

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 17:37

Oh, he was perfect for that song.

SPEAKER_02 17:38

Yeah, yeah. You know what's crazy? I almost considered um one of my old buddies who also has a punk band um to do vocals. And uh, what is his band name again? Uh oh, the the the skinny limbs, just because I like his voice. Um you remember Mitch Garcia? Yeah, I almost considered him, and then I was like, ah, you know what? I think I think John would fit this more.

SPEAKER_03 18:03

Are you still friends with him?

SPEAKER_02 18:04

Mitch Garcia? Yeah, I haven't talked to him in a while, but he still follows me and you know, comments on some of my stuff, and he follows the band too. Yeah, he's a cool guy. He's going on, I think he's gonna have a second kid. Whoa. Whoa, indeed. Yeah. Anyway, so but yeah, got some promo stuff done. Bree's slowly working on it. We just need to get an official like audio so we can put it on the clip. And then we'll from there and it's sweet though.

SPEAKER_00 18:34

I think they turned out really sweet. She did really good.

SPEAKER_02 18:36

She did a really, really good job.

SPEAKER_03 18:37

Where like like music video asked type stuff?

SPEAKER_02 18:40

Yeah, kind of like, yeah, so we had like the idea. So did you decide on what you're gonna do for the album cover yet? Are you gonna do the one where it's like I haven't decided yet?

Announcing VHS and Its Sound

SPEAKER_03 18:52

Honestly, so did you guys leave me out because you thought we were gonna fall in love? Yes. Okay.

SPEAKER_02 18:59

You told them no, I didn't tell him anything yet, actually, though. But all three of us, I think we can try and see if we can probably He seems to know something.

SPEAKER_03 19:08

Well, I told him about Nobody can nobody can tame this wild stallion. That just doesn't happen.

SPEAKER_02 19:15

He said Calm down, spirit.

SPEAKER_01 19:19

So you still haven't even met her.

SPEAKER_02 19:21

Oh correct.

SPEAKER_00 19:23

I do think you should meet her. She's amazing. After meeting her, I three of us, dude.

SPEAKER_02 19:29

Uh some what do you say, Jay?

SPEAKER_03 19:30

Yeah, but you'd oh very sad. Um But you two don't know me that well, so you wouldn't be able to tell if I'd match her there. And Andy thinks I'd do well with anybody.

SPEAKER_02 19:43

That's not true.

SPEAKER_03 19:44

That is true.

SPEAKER_00 19:46

I agree with Caleb on this one.

SPEAKER_02 19:47

Uh but it's because I just like Caleb so much. Yeah. Yeah.

unknown 19:51

That's so nice.

SPEAKER_03 19:53

So music video type stuff. Yeah. And promo. I wish I could see him, but I'm not on any of the social media.

SPEAKER_02 19:59

Do you have any of the video stuff on your phone or anything?

SPEAKER_00 20:02

No, I didn't have because I'm still still working on it. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 20:07

But no, I think so. We took one picture and we th I think it would be a really cool album cover where it's like it's her, and then like Brit's face is like kind of like covering her, where like the eyes still pop out.

SPEAKER_00 20:18

Britt's hand is covering my face. Britt's face is not covering my face.

SPEAKER_02 20:21

Oh, sorry, Britt's hand is covering her face.

SPEAKER_00 20:23

That would be a whole different kind of album cover.

SPEAKER_02 20:26

Yeah. Brit's face is covering your face.

SPEAKER_00 20:31

So we did a few shots where so we had uh light in the back against the black wall.

SPEAKER_02 20:37

The light bulbs.

SPEAKER_00 20:38

Yeah. Just one, just to give light light. It's the only place to go. Uh and then I brought from homework a big white flowy cloak almost.

VHS Lyrics: Grief, Memory, and Ghosts

SPEAKER_02 20:53

Yeah. Like a robe. Yeah. It's like the Jesus robe that they use for plays on Christmas.

SPEAKER_03 20:57

Where do you work where that's obtainable?

SPEAKER_00 21:00

We have a whole costume closet.

SPEAKER_03 21:03

They do Oh, you work at a church.

SPEAKER_00 21:05

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 21:06

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 21:06

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 21:09

How do you obtain that?

SPEAKER_00 21:12

I stole it. No. Uh, and then I'm standing in front of her and she like reaches around. You can see like half her face, and she comes over and like grabs my face. But it's like it's actually turned out pretty cool.

unknown 21:24

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 21:24

That sounds really scary. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 21:27

You might have to cover your eyes.

SPEAKER_03 21:29

I might have to.

SPEAKER_02 21:30

Honestly, dude, I like the it's really cool that we're going for like this haunting vibe. So there's actually a couple of people that have reached out to me. They're like, is there a crow like some sort of thing to align here? Because they notice that like the past two album covers have been similar, where it's like the hand reaching out and then the hand that's like holding the key.

SPEAKER_03 21:48

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 21:48

And so they're like, something is going on here.

SPEAKER_03 21:50

You should have one that does this. So that people can really get into the content. That'll be the last one.

SPEAKER_01 21:59

Controversy.

SPEAKER_02 22:00

That'll be the EP album cover.

SPEAKER_03 22:03

Perfect.

SPEAKER_02 22:04

Just uh it's actually Well, what's gonna be the next one?

SPEAKER_03 22:10

They're all hands, right?

SPEAKER_02 22:12

Well, the I mean VHS will be the last single before the EP comes out. I'm not putting out anymore.

SPEAKER_03 22:18

So, but all the singles are gonna have some type of hand.

SPEAKER_02 22:22

The EP will be where we finally put the two hands together, the one holding the key and the one.

SPEAKER_03 22:28

Okay, then what's what's the single picture for VHS then? If you can say. If it's gonna spoil too much.

SPEAKER_00 22:35

That's what I'm still trying to figure out. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, something in that movement of that video. I don't know if it's gonna be her reaching.

SPEAKER_02 22:43

Yeah, we're conjoining we did it, guys.

SPEAKER_00 22:47

It won't look similar to the last.

SPEAKER_02 22:49

The last two. Yeah, it'll probably be like full on, where it's like we finally have a face to show kind of thing. The the I hate saying the word, but that's like the only word I could think of, but like the deity of what our memories and our mistakes and issues um will be.

SPEAKER_03 23:07

And a deity means God.

SPEAKER_02 23:10

That's not the word then.

SPEAKER_03 23:11

I think you're thinking of entity.

SPEAKER_02 23:13

Entity.

SPEAKER_00 23:15

Yeah, I was like deity. We're going straight sleep token.

SPEAKER_02 23:18

Oh, yeah, my bad. Also blasphemous. Sorry.

SPEAKER_00 23:21

Hey.

SPEAKER_02 23:22

Hey, we're Christians in a van.

SPEAKER_03 23:23

We're not a Christian band, so it's like So that make that gives us an excuse to be blasphemous and heretical. Yeah. Alright.

SPEAKER_02 23:30

Just kidding.

SPEAKER_00 23:31

Wait for Caleb to turn around and grab the Bible and go, listen, Candy. That's what I was saying.

SPEAKER_03 23:39

This jumbo one, too. And it's King James. Oh.

SPEAKER_00 23:42

That means it's serious.

SPEAKER_02 23:43

That means it's the real one. I didn't know we were getting that crazy. Yeah, you might open it. Whoa.

SPEAKER_01 23:50

Maybe an effigy?

SPEAKER_02 23:53

Ooh. I forgot. See.

SPEAKER_01 23:55

Caleb's the only one that knows what that means.

SPEAKER_02 23:57

What?

SPEAKER_01 23:58

It's a word I've heard before.

SPEAKER_02 23:59

Effigy.

SPEAKER_03 24:01

I actually don't know what that means. Please tell us. Yeah, nay, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 24:07

Caleb's the only one that knows what that means. That the only other person that knows what it is.

SPEAKER_03 24:10

I've heard of it. I just don't know what it means.

SPEAKER_02 24:12

Yeah. But no, overall, super cool. So hopefully October 17th for whoever is excited for this, be on the lookout. Follow Signal the Sky's Band on Instagram and TikTok.

SPEAKER_03 24:25

Um You're acting like it's over, dude.

SPEAKER_02 24:27

What? Okay.

SPEAKER_03 24:29

That's what you want. Say it multiple times. Just say it whenever you can. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 24:32

Hey guys, follow us on TikTok and Instagram, Signal the Sky's Band. At sign Signal Sky. We do have a Facebook too.

SPEAKER_03 24:39

For all the booms.

SPEAKER_02 24:41

All the boomers. Yeah. No. Yeah. All the Unks out there.

Cover Art, Haunting Visuals, and Themes

SPEAKER_03 24:44

Did we find out? Is that what they call it? We do have some boomer fans. Dude, my nephew called me Unk the other day, and it's cute. It really hurt me.

SPEAKER_02 24:53

You're in your 30s, Unk. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 24:58

Did you figure out what it means? Yeah, it's uh has to pull up her phone again. We didn't memorize it.

SPEAKER_01 25:03

A sculpture or model of a person.

SPEAKER_03 25:06

Uh I always see when I hear that, now that I heard the definition, I thought it meant like a storyline of somebody.

SPEAKER_02 25:12

Like what's that's elegy? Oh. Yeah. Elegy, effigy.

SPEAKER_01 25:18

Yeah, the effigy would be the physical manifestation of something. What's the eulogy?

SPEAKER_03 25:23

Like when I die?

SPEAKER_02 25:25

Oh, oh my gosh. Elegy is like the whole story, but then eulogy is the ending of the story.

SPEAKER_03 25:31

Is elegy even a word? Yeah. Like I don't think I've ever heard it.

SPEAKER_01 25:34

If you say it enough times, any word will sound like it's not a real world word anymore.

SPEAKER_02 25:38

Like bluffernicus.

SPEAKER_00 25:40

That was that a word? Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 25:45

The ending makes you seem like you would have been that guy. Of that word. What did it what? Don't just don't say it again.

SPEAKER_00 25:52

Yeah, that was we're gonna get cancelled for that too.

SPEAKER_03 25:54

Oh man, my bad. But YouTube's gonna pick that up and be like, hey, they said a word.

SPEAKER_00 25:59

Yeah, he's not dark enough to say that.

SPEAKER_03 26:03

Exactly. That's what it's not. That's oh my bad. It's giving those vibes kind of old last name. Which you don't need to say that either, but um anyway. Facebook for the unks.

SPEAKER_02 26:19

Facebook for all the unks.

SPEAKER_03 26:21

Do you post on Facebook for Facebook?

SPEAKER_02 26:23

Um I have the Instagram and Facebook like tagged together, and I'm trying to get the TikTok to get the Facebook, but for some reason, every trying to every time I try to cook put them together, it like is like error. It's not working. I'm like, why? Um They used to be connected to the city.

SPEAKER_03 26:39

Is there a way to promote without social media, or is that like the only way now?

SPEAKER_02 26:42

Sadly, social media is like our biggest crutch right now.

SPEAKER_00 26:46

Although I did say it'd be really cool to make some QR code stickers and then go around and just stick them everywhere.

SPEAKER_02 26:53

Tag them on the gym and stuff like that.

SPEAKER_03 26:55

Yeah, put them on the treadmill.

SPEAKER_00 26:57

That's what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_02 26:58

Dude, nobody would know. Nobody would know. Nobody would know what.

SPEAKER_00 27:03

Gas station pump.

SPEAKER_02 27:05

Yeah. Yeah, dude, they put Biden stickers on the gas station pump so we could put QR codes, dude. Exactly. That's why that is if you got the idea.

SPEAKER_01 27:14

But couldn't make like business cards with it and then make it look really mysterious. Like uh, what's that?

unknown 27:22

That one.

SPEAKER_02 27:23

Like the Squid Game thing? Yes, that's exactly what I was thinking about.

SPEAKER_01 27:25

Squid Game.

SPEAKER_02 27:27

Dude, people wouldn't pick it up if we did that.

SPEAKER_01 27:29

Well, it wouldn't be like Squid Game, the place. Like a little circle, triangle, square. No, something else mysterious. Somebody can't put them.

SPEAKER_03 27:37

I'm not gonna say who did this because I don't want to use his name when he's not around, but a former Amazon delivery driver that I used to know would put the podcast on business cards and like drop them off with a box. That's what I'm saying. Which is illegal, but he did it anyway. Well, who's who's really gonna get the law involved with something like that? Yeah. Like, hey, somebody left a business card. And I bet the police would be like it's not worth our time. 911, what's your emergency?

SPEAKER_02 28:03

Yeah, people be leaving business cards in my mailbox. Okay.

SPEAKER_03 28:07

Well, it was with a package, like an Amazon package. He's gonna text me when this episode comes out and be like, dude, that was me. Shout out to you, dog.

Mix Notes, Mastering, and Landon’s Role

SPEAKER_00 28:18

Does he want to do some QR code stickers?

SPEAKER_03 28:21

Yeah, dude. Ask him if he'll do some QR stickers. I'll ask him next time because he works for a different delivery company now.

SPEAKER_02 28:28

Oh man. He betrayed Amazon.

SPEAKER_03 28:31

Which I can't say. It's actually like confidential.

SPEAKER_02 28:34

Alfedix?

SPEAKER_03 28:35

I can't say.

SPEAKER_02 28:39

Post post post office? The US post office. USPS. USPS. Actually, post office, USPO.

SPEAKER_03 28:48

Well, it's postal service. Oh. Yeah, you drop your stuff off. Dang it. Yeah, my bad. Dude.

SPEAKER_02 28:55

I don't use that stuff.

SPEAKER_00 28:56

But I appreciate your confidence, and you know, when you were saying it, you were.

SPEAKER_02 28:59

You don't use the postal service? I can't say I ever have. Shame. Usually when I return stuff to Amazon, I just go to Kohl's. Because they have the thing there.

unknown 29:09

That's true.

SPEAKER_03 29:09

What? Yeah. They have an Amazon. Why did you walk into Coles to begin with? That's the return something to return. Yeah, but you didn't. Did you know? How did you know the Amazon thing was there? Oh, they tell you.

SPEAKER_02 29:24

Yeah, they ask you how you want to return if you ever do a return. Have you ever done a return for Amazon? No. Okay. Well, if you ever get the chance to.

SPEAKER_00 29:34

I feel like Caleb's the kind of guy that doesn't sleep on Amazon, which I also support.

SPEAKER_03 29:38

Actually, I barely ever order off Amazon.

SPEAKER_02 29:40

Well, how about this? Order something really cheap on Amazon and then be like, oh, I don't like it. And then do I want to do a return. And then it's gonna be like, do you want to go to your local Kohl's or some other place?

SPEAKER_03 29:49

I will say I admire Kohl's business tactic to get people in there because they know they're failing.

SPEAKER_01 29:55

Well, yeah, Kohl's is like three feet away from your house.

SPEAKER_02 29:57

Yeah, it really is. I could walk there, but I

SPEAKER_03 30:00

You have one out there?

SPEAKER_02 30:01

Yeah. It's right next door to the hibachi place. I've never been there, but I've heard it's good, and I've also heard like sketchy things about it. Is it?

SPEAKER_01 30:11

Yeah, sometimes sketchy is the way.

SPEAKER_02 30:13

That's true.

SPEAKER_01 30:14

Absolutely.

SPEAKER_02 30:15

There's that number one Chinese food place I go to that's like four or five minutes away from me. Sketchiest little spot, but man, that food is good.

SPEAKER_01 30:22

Oh, you gotta go to first walk.

SPEAKER_02 30:24

Yeah, uh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I've been there too. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 30:27

Alpine does have everything. It just takes 30 minutes to get anywhere.

SPEAKER_02 30:31

Now people know where I live.

SPEAKER_03 30:35

Nobody wants to do it. As if I don't deal with the paparazzis and it's not worth driving down Alpine to find somebody anyway.

SPEAKER_02 30:42

So Alpine is horrible. Traffic can get kind of crazy sometimes up there. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 30:51

They make bumper stickers about how much people hate Alpine. Really? Oh, dude, now I want one.

SPEAKER_04 30:57

That's crazy.

SPEAKER_03 30:59

Oh, then it uh includes a bad word. So I wouldn't get one on your car.

SPEAKER_02 31:06

Yeah, that's true. I don't condone that behavior.

SPEAKER_03 31:08

Yeah, you better not.

SPEAKER_02 31:09

Never.

SPEAKER_00 31:10

You better not.

SPEAKER_02 31:11

Never ever. But yeah. So Amazon Amazon.

SPEAKER_03 31:16

Amazon delivery.

SPEAKER_02 31:17

Those returns you can do it at Kohl's. I think they do it at Walgreens too, sometimes. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 31:23

Alright, so back to the where we were we were talking about like Facebook and stuff. Yeah. Oh yeah, I was gonna say if there's better ways to promote, to just get off social media. Because I gotta say, it's been peaceful without it.

SPEAKER_02 31:37

Yeah, I know. I think that's the only reason I kind of like hold on to my social media is because of the band stuff. And that's the only way to do it is like building reels and like making videos or like any chance to just be like, oh hey, our song is out, and then putting like a cool video with it or whatever.

SPEAKER_03 31:54

Yeah, but do you ever get caught up in the views and the likes when you post something on TikTok? Like, oh, how many views is this one getting?

SPEAKER_02 32:00

I think I I used to actually get be a lot worse. I think now I wait a couple days and be like, oh, sweet, it made it over a hundred views. That's pretty good, and then just leave it alone from there. And if I get any likes or comments or anything like that, like I actually had this one random TikToker um be like, Oh dude, I just found you guys and I'm so excited for this new single. And I'm like, Yeah, it's sick, dude. And he post it on his on his story, and he like does a whole bunch of like metal. Oh sweet. Yeah. So I think those kinds of things also help in a way. Um, but yeah, I also just plugged our band too when I was at Guitar Center a couple days ago. I was buying that was when we were on the phone. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, and I was buying a bunch of equipment for the church, and uh this guy was buying a new interface, and I was like, Oh, dude, you should buy this one instead because it has like the warm compressor and stuff like that. Like, because that's the one it was the the UA 276 or whatever that I want to buy. The Universal Audio. Did I show you that one? The blue one? No, it's like wood, green, and white. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 33:00

Oh, the focus right?

SPEAKER_02 33:01

No, it's uh it's well, it's not a focus right, but it's like the focus right just better.

SPEAKER_03 33:06

Is it the same brand?

SPEAKER_02 33:07

No, it's universal audio.

SPEAKER_03 33:09

Oh, okay. That's yeah, got it.

SPEAKER_01 33:11

It's the one I convinced him that he wanted instead of getting the blue one.

SPEAKER_02 33:15

Which that blue one is still pretty dude, focus on it.

SPEAKER_03 33:18

I don't know anything about interfaces. I just bought that one because it works, and I got it refurbished for like 80 bucks.

SPEAKER_02 33:24

Well, now you gotta get a DAW.

SPEAKER_03 33:26

What's a DAW?

Promotion Without Social: QR Codes and IRL

SPEAKER_02 33:27

Digital workstation, you know? Audio workstation. Why do I need that? So you can record garage band.

SPEAKER_03 33:35

Oh, yeah, that's it. Yeah, that's it. I sent it to John and he's like, dude, this sounds sick. So I did that misery. Yeah, I think for like single instruments, garage band is fine. Yeah, I would say like mixing and stuff, it's probably terrible.

SPEAKER_02 33:50

Dude, I tried, yeah. I tried, I jumped on garage band a little bit when I was doing uh a multiple, a multi-track kind of thing for the church, and you could not do multi-tracks on garage band. I'm like, dude, I can't use this.

SPEAKER_03 34:03

What's a multi-track?

SPEAKER_02 34:04

It's like when you do multiple recording takes in one go. So, like, that's what you would do if you're like recording drums, and then the drums have like 10 to 13 different microphones. So you could do a multi-track setting, highlight them all, and then they would all record at the same time while you're playing.

SPEAKER_03 34:21

There is a way you can do that because I remember one time I found out how to do that when I was first starting to do the podcast. Remember when I was like really finicky about editing, we figured out how to record all the mics at the same time. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I did you so you could with Garage Band or was that with Logic? That was with GarageBand because I used my laptop. Oh. Yeah. I don't have Logic or whatever the other one is. What's the big one?

SPEAKER_02 34:47

Uh, there's Fruity Loops, uh, Ableton, Pro Tools. Pro Tools.

SPEAKER_03 34:52

Pro Tools, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 34:53

I hate Pro Tools.

SPEAKER_03 34:54

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 34:55

So much. That is the like the one when I was in college and they wanted us to use Pro Tools, and I was like, what is this? And then I found out about like Reaper, and I was like, oh, Reaper's pretty cool.

SPEAKER_03 35:06

But so bad about Pro Tools.

SPEAKER_02 35:08

It's just overly complex, and some of the stuff you just can't find. It's just a lot to learn. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 35:13

You just have to learn it where things are.

SPEAKER_02 35:15

Ableton is crazy too. That's what Landon uses to mix and master our stuff, is Ableton.

SPEAKER_03 35:21

But if you do learn everything from Pro Tools, does it become one of the better ones to use?

SPEAKER_00 35:26

I mean, yes, if you were to put it on your resume, you'd get hired. I mean, I was gonna get like certified in Pro Tools in college. There was like this huge book and test thing I was gonna go through.

SPEAKER_03 35:36

But now you're Dante certified instead. Yeah, but what what stopped you from doing Pro Tools?

SPEAKER_00 35:41

Uh well, I mean I used it through college. Oh and then I was planning to get certified because that would look really good on a resume. And then uh COVID hit. We all went home.

SPEAKER_03 35:51

Oh, COVID uh is a word that gets you demonetized in YouTube too.

SPEAKER_00 35:55

Oh well, 2020 trash sent us home.

SPEAKER_02 35:59

Jeez. Also crazy.

SPEAKER_03 36:03

There's like so many words that get you censored. Anyway, yeah, you like that. What is that? What is that? I got it from some like gym clothing store. Ah, dude, that's amazing. And I don't know where to put it because I actually like that.

SPEAKER_00 36:20

Oh, they can't say that word either.

SPEAKER_03 36:21

No, you can't say killer. Oh you can't say Hitler murderer, mass shooting, gone. You can't say anything.

SPEAKER_01 36:27

Well, just say, well, dude, that is so cool. It's like bullet bill-esque.

SPEAKER_03 36:33

It is kind of bullet bill. But I don't know what to put it on, so like I just keep it. Put it on your laptop, dude. No.

SPEAKER_02 36:42

I would put it on my laptop.

SPEAKER_03 36:44

Um, anyway, back to Pro Tools. That's what we were on.

SPEAKER_02 36:47

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 36:47

Um, I feel like you should just learn it. Just go through all the pains. But the thing is, I feel like learning stuff on video is really annoying because you're like trying to like figure it out. I just do it as I go. Like all the podcast stuff, I just learn more and more as I go like, oh, this editing video.

SPEAKER_02 37:05

Yeah, because what do you use to fully edit your audio and stuff like that? Or do you just let because you do the video programming thing too, right?

SPEAKER_03 37:12

Yeah, I use Cap Cut for video and people would make fun of me for that because it's like eight dollars a month. Dude, Cab Cut is actually But it works for podcasting because you don't need anything special for this. Yeah, exactly. And then for audio, the what is it called? It's almost like what's like Disco Monkey or whatever it's called that you use for like songs. What is that?

SPEAKER_02 37:32

Oh, Distro Kid. Yeah. Distro Kid.

SPEAKER_03 37:34

What what is monkey? What is that?

SPEAKER_02 37:38

Like that's your distribution.

SPEAKER_03 37:40

Okay, yeah. So I use Buzz Sprout for my distribution, and they have something where if you pay a little extra, they'll just make all the mic levels even. Oh, nice. And like cut out any background noise automatically.

DAWs, Interfaces, and Recording Nerd-Out

SPEAKER_02 37:52

Yeah. Oh, dude, United Masters does that too. That's what I use to put our music up. 60 bucks a year, not bad. Um, but before they let you like officially put out your song, they're like, hey, do you want like a United Masters mastered version of your song or whatever? And they show you like a clip of it and it's like a 30-second clip and it's like a different sound. And I've always I've almost considered it. I almost did it for as a cost extra. It's like five bucks. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 38:23

Is that the distribution thing that you use is United Masters?

SPEAKER_02 38:27

United Masters for, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 38:28

And is that who pays you if you make yeah when you get more plays?

SPEAKER_02 38:32

Yeah. So it's yeah, so I don't know if I showed you the app. I have the app on my phone, but it like shows you all of like your like your progress and stuff like that. It even like builds you a couple different um like little reels to like the little post-it thing, like, hey, this song comes out so and so time. It also like shows a bunch of like excuse exclusive things to where you can advertise your song through a bunch of different things as well. Like we could get our song on ESPN if we really tried. Imagine our song being on the next Maggie. I mean, they could make it happen, but it's obvious that it would have to get approved by the actual companies too. Like, let's say, for example, if we wanted our song to be on like 2K27, you know, like the basketball game or whatever. Like, well, 2K's gotta be like, okay, yeah, this is a good song. Let's let's put it on there.

SPEAKER_03 39:25

Plus, if they did send it out and somehow it ends up on ESPN 2, dude, I'd be heartbroken. Dude. That would be the worst.

SPEAKER_02 39:31

ESPN2? Isn't that the one where they just show like the backlogs of most sports?

SPEAKER_03 39:35

It's like poker sometimes.

SPEAKER_02 39:40

Can you imagine just VHS in the background while people are putting it playing blackjack?

SPEAKER_01 39:45

ESPN just got WWE.

SPEAKER_02 39:48

Oh. Oh, dude, our song on WWE, dude.

SPEAKER_01 39:51

Actually, that would work. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 39:54

They just bought WWE?

SPEAKER_01 39:56

No, they got they did a deal with so they can play it on ESP. Yeah, for streaming. Oh.

SPEAKER_02 40:03

And let's face it, like WWE, like, it's great.

SPEAKER_01 40:07

Yeah, it's really cool.

SPEAKER_03 40:08

Do you guys actually think it's cool?

SPEAKER_02 40:10

Dude, there's nothing better than guys wrestling and throwing chairs at each other.

SPEAKER_01 40:15

Man meat, slapping man meat. Okay. You gotta watch it.

SPEAKER_00 40:20

That didn't work for me. There was nothing in that sentence that encouraged me to watch it.

SPEAKER_02 40:27

But I don't think the Caleb's smile went away for like three seconds. He's like, no.

SPEAKER_03 40:34

It's just like fake wrestling.

SPEAKER_00 40:35

They have girls fight too. That's the worst.

SPEAKER_03 40:38

Yeah, yeah, it is. It is fake. Yeah, I just don't think I'd watch it.

SPEAKER_01 40:42

It's fake, but it's like really athletic. Yeah. It's interesting to watch.

SPEAKER_02 40:45

I mean, these guys will sometimes actually hit each other. Like, no joke.

SPEAKER_01 40:49

They take real bumps, but like the punches and stuff are all fake.

SPEAKER_02 40:52

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 40:52

But they do like pick each other.

SPEAKER_02 40:56

Well, they do it for UFC and stuff.

SPEAKER_03 40:59

They use gloves. But I've heard that those gloves do actually more damage than Yeah, because you got the thick pad.

SPEAKER_02 41:05

Because it's meant to protect your hands and stuff like that.

SPEAKER_03 41:08

That's why if boxing wasn't rigged, it'd be cool to watch. But it is.

SPEAKER_01 41:12

See, everybody knows that WWE is fake though, and that's what makes it fun.

SPEAKER_02 41:17

It's just an acting. Yeah. Yeah. It's just an act, and it's it's fun to watch sometimes.

SPEAKER_03 41:21

Yeah, I guess.

SPEAKER_02 41:22

Like who doesn't like watching John Cena take on The Undertaker? You know? I just have no interest. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 41:28

I mean, I get it. I'll watch it for the memory. Everybody has their thing. Good for you.

SPEAKER_02 41:32

I'll watch it for the meme because it's like, I mean, come on, John Cena and some jorts, and he's just like, you can't see me.

SPEAKER_01 41:38

He's retiring this time. And he's old.

SPEAKER_02 41:40

He's so old.

SPEAKER_03 41:42

That's one of those things that I have to do. Like 45. 45.

SPEAKER_02 41:46

No way. He is. Is he really only 45?

SPEAKER_03 41:48

Oh, look at him. I thought he was older.

SPEAKER_02 41:51

I thought so too. Man's wearing knee braces.

SPEAKER_03 41:54

I mean you could wear those at 45. Yeah. 45 is pretty old.

SPEAKER_01 41:58

He's 48.

SPEAKER_03 42:00

That's pretty old for his athletics.

SPEAKER_00 42:03

Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 42:04

Have you ever watched Slap Fighting?

SPEAKER_02 42:06

No. No.

SPEAKER_03 42:08

All the slap thing that people have been doing lately. Yeah, it's Dana White from the UFC thing started it.

SPEAKER_02 42:15

Dude.

SPEAKER_00 42:15

I have seen clips of that.

SPEAKER_02 42:17

I see those clips sometimes, and I'm like, there is no way. Like you are losing an eardrum from that catastrophic smack to the face.

SPEAKER_03 42:26

They wear earplugs.

SPEAKER_02 42:27

Oh, do they? Oh, wow.

SPEAKER_00 42:29

You would have to. Mouth guard, probably.

SPEAKER_03 42:31

But they're always just like massive dudes. Yeah. It's like bang. But that's gotta be really bad because they get knocked out from one slap sometimes. And like their head hits the table and they've seen them. They get back up and then start like.

SPEAKER_02 42:46

That's where our songs need to go, is the slab fights.

SPEAKER_03 42:49

I feel like that'd be kind of a letdown, too. Like if it was like UFC fighters.

SPEAKER_02 42:54

Huh?

SPEAKER_01 42:54

That's United Masters. United Masters. They do pitching for you.

SPEAKER_02 42:58

They can help with the pitching.

SPEAKER_01 42:59

So yeah, I mean it's have on pitch to the slap fight.

SPEAKER_02 43:03

So it's like they they have different distributions and stuff like that. They give you the options to do so. So and then like, yeah, our song, like they're like, oh, we can try and get your song on people's like Twitch accounts and stuff like that. Like they could play it or whatever. And would you get royalties from that? Oh yeah, 100%. Yeah. The thing is, is like whatever listens you get, then you're getting paid for that. And that's based on every dis distributor that we're on. And we're on like all of them. Hmm. Yeah, we're on Spotify, Apple Music, YouTube, YouTube Music. Um, some of the ones that even we don't even use ourselves. Like um uh what is that one? It's like call I think it's called like Fiverr or something like that.

SPEAKER_03 43:46

Some isn't that where you pay people to write stuff for your song?

SPEAKER_02 43:49

On what? Fiverr. I don't remember. I don't remember Title. Title, that's what it is.

SPEAKER_03 43:56

Oh yeah, five sorry, Fiverr is the one I think where the Yeah, you like send your song out and be like, hey, I need someone to play drums on this, and then you pay yeah yeah, and then they'll do it. Oh, that's sweet.

Streaming, Distribution, and UnitedMasters

SPEAKER_02 44:07

Yeah. There was one time speaking of like having somebody like write lyrics for us for a second, I just wanted to find some like better words to put on one of our songs. And just for fun, I was like, let me see what ChatGPT would say. And Bree was immediately like, no, we're not using that. I love Chat GPT lyrics.

SPEAKER_00 44:28

I shut that down so quick. You did. Absolutely not.

SPEAKER_02 44:31

It's okay. Did you like him? No, it the he just like like chat or sorry, it's not a he. It just like made it more formal.

SPEAKER_03 44:41

Somebody gives a little too much power to this.

SPEAKER_02 44:43

I know. Sorry. That was an accident. I take it back. I don't actually like Chat GPT. My Bailey uses ChatGPT for everything.

SPEAKER_04 44:51

Like to they them.

SPEAKER_02 44:56

They them? Yes, I think that's fair.

SPEAKER_03 44:58

Cancelled they them is the funniest out of all of the gender identities, I think. Because how do you like why?

SPEAKER_02 45:07

I don't know.

SPEAKER_03 45:07

Would you because like there's this guy, the shipping and receiving guy at work who's like just against all of that.

SPEAKER_02 45:14

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 45:14

And he's in like these group chats, and sometimes they'll sneak onto his computer and be like, yeah, sounds good. By the way, my pronouns are now the but it's funny because he's like a hu like a bodybuilder. But he's still he's 23, so he still has like the young face. Oh, yeah. He's a really funny dude. That's funny. He's he's really funny though.

SPEAKER_02 45:37

I love that. I would play it prank like that. Oh my gosh. I don't understand that that gender thing. It does it never makes sense to me.

SPEAKER_03 45:47

Yeah, it's crazy it is uh wild. They them. But that would be what chat GTP would probably be is they then. Thear. Or it, whatever it slash.

SPEAKER_02 45:58

I don't yeah.

SPEAKER_00 46:00

It slash it.

SPEAKER_02 46:01

What if somebody is what if somebody is like a we us?

SPEAKER_03 46:06

I identify as we that would be a demon, because that's how demons that's Legion.

SPEAKER_02 46:10

Yeah. Whoa. Exactly.

SPEAKER_01 46:13

Is that from a movie?

SPEAKER_03 46:14

No, that's from the Bible.

SPEAKER_01 46:16

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_03 46:17

No, it is from the people the Bible, the people. But there is also Legion. Isn't it about that? Is that the one where the grandma like crawls on the ceiling? Yes. She's like, Oh, you're so terrible, and then she just starts climbing on the stairs.

SPEAKER_02 46:33

Dude, I remember that trailer. I've never seen that movie, but I remember that trailer popping up.

SPEAKER_03 46:38

I remember that was like one of the scariest things, and now everything that comes out is just like that's why I won't c watch Constantine anymore.

SPEAKER_02 46:46

That movie was cool, but learning that it's like super demonic. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 46:50

Yeah. I don't even know that movie.

SPEAKER_02 46:52

I think you would have liked it if you're like into those movies. I know you don't like a lot of like scary or like spiritually effective movies.

SPEAKER_03 47:00

I don't like scary either.

SPEAKER_01 47:02

Well, you really watch high school musical and a scary movie in the same movie.

SPEAKER_02 47:07

Let's watch the scary movie and then high school musical after to like.

SPEAKER_00 47:11

I will not do a scary movie either. I will not.

SPEAKER_03 47:13

I have to stay here by myself and I will stay up all night. Ever since midsunday.

SPEAKER_01 47:18

Did you say though? Literally in a fortress of solitude.

SPEAKER_02 47:22

Yeah, dude, you got knights walking around here all the time. I don't care.

SPEAKER_00 47:25

Still the hallway with their spears. You're right in their Caleb.

SPEAKER_02 47:29

These windows.

SPEAKER_03 47:31

These windows are ground level.

SPEAKER_01 47:32

You live in a fortress.

SPEAKER_03 47:34

It is. Yeah, just don't tell them exactly which one. Um the scary movies really do freak me out. I remember when I watched Midsummer, I had to have the lights on for a whole week.

SPEAKER_02 47:45

Midsummer is a weird one.

SPEAKER_03 47:46

Yeah, it was terrible. And then and then since that I don't really watch them.

SPEAKER_02 47:50

That movie's nuts.

SPEAKER_00 47:51

No, I won't either. I I'm going to a bachelorette party in a few weekends, and they're going to uh like a haunted house maze thing. And I'm like, uh no, I won't. First of all, I'm not gonna pay$60. Second of all,$60 for like$50 something dollars. But I'm like, nope. I said, I just I very much believe in spiritual warfare and angels and demons, and Satan will use that against me in my head.

SPEAKER_02 48:18

Until one of them tries to scare you and they got like bad breath, dude.

SPEAKER_00 48:22

I won't.

SPEAKER_02 48:22

I remember one time I went to a scary, like a haunted house thing, and like this girl got up in my face, and I was like, you need gum.

SPEAKER_00 48:29

Just go back through and give her a breath.

SPEAKER_02 48:31

Like the scariest part about this is your breath. Well, that's literally what I told her. I was like, girl, you need gum.

SPEAKER_00 48:38

You're like, wait, she's actually dead.

SPEAKER_03 48:41

What if she was? That'd be so good.

SPEAKER_00 48:43

That's what I'm saying. That's why your breath smells so bad.

SPEAKER_03 48:45

Um, the only ones that I can do are the corn mazes where people like it's like jump stuff. Oh, dude, the corn mazes with the if they're gonna do like depictions of stuff, I can't. But I've worked at uh corn maze where all there was was like you just dress up and pop out. It was really fun.

SPEAKER_00 49:02

I'll do a corn maze just to like walk through it.

SPEAKER_03 49:05

But watch out for the melon beds. I feel like having a corn maze would be like the perfect thing to be a serial killer.

SPEAKER_02 49:13

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 49:18

Nope.

SPEAKER_00 49:18

So you're never going through a corn maze ever again now.

SPEAKER_03 49:22

Maybe not in today's not in today's world. They'd be caught so fast, but like during their prime in like the 70s.

SPEAKER_02 49:28

You know, there's still people that'll walk around in the clown costumes to scare people.

SPEAKER_03 49:33

Well, the more they're just gonna get killed.

SPEAKER_02 49:35

So you can't say that word.

SPEAKER_03 49:39

Yep, it's okay.

SPEAKER_00 49:40

Can't say assassinated either.

SPEAKER_03 49:42

Dude, can't say that. Can't say me.

SPEAKER_00 49:45

What do they say? Uh unalived.

SPEAKER_03 49:47

Unalived.

SPEAKER_00 49:48

Unalived. I hate that so much.

SPEAKER_03 49:50

That's why I just don't censor because I don't care if YouTube doesn't pay me and they're not paying me anyway right now. So I just but if you think about it, if you were in YouTube shoes and you could get people to make videos, especially with tons of views, to get people on your platform and find out a way to not pay them, that'd be the way to do it.

SPEAKER_02 50:07

Yeah. Yeah. 100%. I would do it that way.

Culture Tangents, Censorship, and Language

SPEAKER_03 50:12

That's just that's just the but it is annoying to listen to with like essay for like sexual assault. They have to say like, then he got essayed and I'm like.

SPEAKER_00 50:21

Oh my gosh.

SPEAKER_03 50:22

Or they censor it and it's just annoying to listen to. You just gotta have the comedic beeping sound though, you know. Yeah, but that's also annoying after a while because they have to beep like every word. Yeah, why don't we gotta especially for like true crime?

SPEAKER_01 50:36

We're doing demonetization maxing.

SPEAKER_03 50:40

Yeah. My favorite one has been SpongeBob Maxing. Like somebody who works at their job happily and doesn't know anything. There's like a Gordon Ramsay video, and someone's like, bro, is Spongebob Maxing right now? That's awesome. Gen Z has the best lingo.

SPEAKER_02 51:02

They do.

SPEAKER_00 51:02

It's pretty fun.

SPEAKER_02 51:04

I hate some of it though. Because I still I still can't get over the we were just talking about this the other day, the whole 6'7 thing. Oh my gosh. I don't know what that means. Apparently, it's just not a like so the way we were educated about it, it's like apparently it's like a basketball player or somebody, and that's like their height is six seven, but they just like the way they said it's a lot of things. It's just a non-comedic, comedic meme for the the the Gen Zers. It means nothing. Or is it Gen Alpha?

SPEAKER_01 51:33

It means nothing. It means absolutely nothing.

SPEAKER_02 51:34

Yeah, if you look up if you look up the term for 6'7 and why it's funny, they're like, oh, it's just a it means nothing, but it's funny.

SPEAKER_01 51:42

Like uh in Friends when the guy goes, hey, or whatever.

SPEAKER_02 51:45

It's like us, it's like us when we do our thing and then nobody knows what we're doing.

SPEAKER_03 51:48

Oh, but like Oh yeah, yeah, okay. I do know that. Yeah. So it's the same thing. Yeah. Just widespread.

SPEAKER_02 51:56

But yeah, but they're just like, oh they they do it at my wife's school all the time because they're just like six seven, six, seven. And then when she's like counting numbers or whatever, and she like takes her she like takes a pause between six and seven so the kids don't notice it.

SPEAKER_01 52:10

So it's if I were a teacher, I would be like five, six, seven, eight, nine, I would play it. Yeah, no, no, no.

SPEAKER_02 52:23

There are moments where where my wife will try to say some of the things that the kids say, and they're like, no, you can't say that.

SPEAKER_04 52:32

Yeah, yep.

SPEAKER_02 52:34

But she hates it, so she won't do it.

SPEAKER_03 52:36

I could not be a teacher in today's. So kudos to her.

SPEAKER_02 52:40

Yeah. She's she's doing the Lord's work, that's for sure.

SPEAKER_00 52:44

There's a crown in heaven specifically for teachers.

SPEAKER_02 52:46

Yeah, dude.

SPEAKER_00 52:47

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 52:48

Yeah, they they work hard. And I know two of them, so it's like they both work really, really hard in that. And it's just an annoying area of work. I don't know how they do it.

SPEAKER_00 52:58

My dad always said it's a calling. You don't just go into it for like for funsies.

SPEAKER_02 53:02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 53:03

A calling that you're given.

SPEAKER_02 53:06

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 53:07

I feel like I could be a teacher for fun.

SPEAKER_00 53:09

You'd be a fun substitute teacher, maybe. Uh-huh. Oh, dude, you could teach social studies.

SPEAKER_02 53:16

Social studies. Like US history.

SPEAKER_03 53:18

What is social studies? History.

SPEAKER_02 53:20

Oh, yeah. I feel like social studies was history.

SPEAKER_03 53:22

But why isn't it just called history?

SPEAKER_01 53:24

Because they also teach you about like the government.

SPEAKER_02 53:27

And socialism.

SPEAKER_01 53:28

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 53:29

Then I could uh I could say the word Hitler and not get in trouble.

unknown 53:33

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 53:33

You could say assassination, not get in trouble.

SPEAKER_03 53:36

Yeah, dude. Um, as fun fact, Nazi actually stands for National Socialism. So really isn't that crazy?

SPEAKER_02 53:45

So it is okay to play secret Hitler now.

SPEAKER_00 53:47

Really crazy.

SPEAKER_02 53:48

Yeah. Huh. Good to know. So anyway, Signal the Sky's Band on Instagram and TikTok.

SPEAKER_04 53:55

Thanks for tuning in.

SPEAKER_02 53:58

Um, I want to get back to it a little bit because going back, we are planning to release an EP, I think. Oh, yeah. Hopefully by yeah. Hopefully by the end of the year. It's gonna have six songs. I almost went like this.

SPEAKER_04 54:11

Six or seven.

SPEAKER_02 54:12

Six and a half, actually, because we don't count the oh my gosh.

SPEAKER_03 54:18

Dude, name the EP six seven.

SPEAKER_02 54:20

That'll be the next EP. The death of the death of six seven.

SPEAKER_03 54:25

Uh, but I'm gonna be honest, I don't think it's gonna be out by the end of the year.

SPEAKER_02 54:28

Probably not. Just the way we're we're working on it. Um, yeah, we're just trying to get everything done. I think we still need to like we need to fix vocals on one of them, and then we still need to put vocals on the other two. Um, we actually need to finish the lyrics for two of them still, or they're still in the writing process a little bit. Um, and then most importantly, obviously drums, and with drums comes the bass. So uh Jay, get on it, dude. He's so nervous, he doesn't want to talk. Just kidding. We miss you, Jay. Hopefully, hopefully when he hears this, he'll he'll be like, Yeah, dude, I got it. That's exactly what he would say. Yeah, but no, three more songs, and then yeah, just the interlude just for funsies, because I thought overall, um, it's obviously like the same instrumentation as lately, which is the song that just came out, what, two months ago now? Some some somewhere around.

SPEAKER_00 55:25

When did that come out?

SPEAKER_02 55:26

Wasn't that June?

SPEAKER_03 55:29

It was June.

SPEAKER_02 55:29

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 55:30

Because we took those pictures in June.

SPEAKER_02 55:32

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, it is like four months ago. Uh you know what's crazy is that like I made myself a goal because like last year, and this was before all of you guys like fully joined in. I was like, I'm just gonna put three songs out just cuz, and then three songs ended up becoming five, and then with those five, I already wrote like three other songs already, basically. And um, like the first single off of the EP, which was Escape, which is finally where kind of like introducing Breeze, now officially a huge part of the band with all the cool synth stuff that she wrote, and her little bit of vocals and stuff like that in that, and then kind of making her the frontman for these last two songs right now.

SPEAKER_00 56:15

Which is crazy.

SPEAKER_02 56:16

Yeah. Yeah, like a front woman. Sorry, front woman.

SPEAKER_03 56:20

Front woman.

SPEAKER_00 56:21

Thank you, Caleb.

SPEAKER_03 56:22

Thank you. I stand up for women feminism right here. Um also I think late or not lately, but leaving should be redone. You said that. I can't do the I can't do the auto-tune.

SPEAKER_02 56:37

Like I when I listened to it, I was still not confident in my vocals yet. Like that was where I was like for the books.

SPEAKER_03 56:45

For the books? I'm yeah. Let's do it, let's do it. Everything like and then what I played was just like wasn't good. Uh uh, because I was whatever reason, but that's when you were already planning to break up with me.

SPEAKER_02 56:56

That's why. No, that wasn't a lot. I'm just kidding.

SPEAKER_03 56:59

Right after they took up I go through little slumps where I stop practicing and yeah. Well, you were focused on the podcast. If I don't practice, yeah. If I don't practice, then my skill goes out the window.

EP Plans, Timeline, and Songcraft

SPEAKER_02 57:10

Yeah. Yeah. No, you were more focused on the podcast when I was like starting to really focus in on the music a lot more. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, no, 2024 was actually a a really crazy year for for writing music because it was just for me, it was just non-stop. Um, and then I was just coming up with more and more ideas, and you know, like the only one I think that I didn't do a lot to was if I was happy. The if I was happy was actually like somebody else wrote it, and then they get like I bought it from them. And so, and then I just edited the guitars a little bit more and then it became what it was. So I cheated on that one. You did. I did. It's okay. That's why there's not another song like it though. But we have two songs with the same kind of drum intro, which is something Caleb pointed out, and I never noticed it until now. The blata blata, because if if I was happy and escape does that.

unknown 58:06

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 58:08

Whoopsies, that's okay.

SPEAKER_03 58:09

We should just start every song with like that.

SPEAKER_02 58:11

Yeah. I I I do like I don't know what it is about a snare flam, but I love a nice snare flam. If you don't know what that is, that's like an off it's like on beat, but with a slightly offbeat hit on the snare.

SPEAKER_03 58:25

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 58:25

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 58:26

The idea for the EP is like what five songs?

SPEAKER_02 58:31

Six songs. Six and a half with that interliver.

SPEAKER_03 58:34

And first it was three.

SPEAKER_02 58:36

No, no, no. Um, no, going back to it, I last year when like leaving pneumonia, violet, um, if I was happy, and Alliance. Um, I was actually planning on putting Alliance out like this year, but I was just like, stuff happened, obviously, and I was like, you know what? I'm feeling a a little a little petty petty, and I was also feeling a little motivated, like, let's just put another song out. So I know, dude.

SPEAKER_03 59:04

Petty will get you nowhere.

SPEAKER_02 59:05

Yeah, I know. But hey, a lot of people did like that song. A lot of people did like that one.

SPEAKER_00 59:09

Got him a song.

SPEAKER_02 59:10

Yeah, and then uh uh I'll tell you what, I think that's when I finally like was able to find my actual clean vocals, like when I was singing on that one. Like my cleans are probably a lot better, but I like doing the see everything that I do for you, dude. Even even when you're gone, you still you still help me out. What a guy.

SPEAKER_03 59:31

That's so nice.

SPEAKER_02 59:33

Anyway, so yeah, my my goal for 2024 was just to put three songs out, and it was just gonna be leaving pneumonia and violet. And then yeah, I heard for the the instrumentation for if I was happy, and I was like, huh, that should be fun. And I think I worked on that one for like two or three months, and it was like, I don't know, I was I think I was in like a depressed era because obviously that song is pretty sad. Um for how for how happy it sounds like. If I was happy.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:01

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:02

Yeah. And so, and then yeah, and then stuff happened, and then I started writing this crazy, almost dissonant sounding guitar track, and then I sent it to Brie, and then I was like, oh man, this sounds cool. And then I started getting a little bit more intense with it. Like, that's when drop B was like really my favorite tuning then, too. So I was like, Yeah, let's do that. And then I made this weird, I think I got it from Sleep Token, which was that weird octave phasey sound for that little breakdown on Alliance, which by the way, you're gonna have to figure out how to do that. Being our new guitar player, Anna, you gotta you gotta figure out all my crazy tricks.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:40

Um I did though, I figured out both parts at once.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:44

Yeah. She sent a video, we'll I'll show it to you guys later, but she can play both guitar parts on leaving, no problem. Talented.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:52

Like at the same time.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:53

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:54

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:54

Double neck guitar?

SPEAKER_02 1:00:55

Yeah. No, one neck. Oh. Four hands though.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:59

Oh, okay. And pose.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:04

But yeah, so five songs ended up being what 2024 happened, and then I don't know. I obviously like mistakes and issues. That album type originally it was gonna be an album when we had Alec and Nathaniel being a part of it all.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:20

It's that old.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:21

It's that I that concept was is that old.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:23

Whoa.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:24

Yeah. And so now it's it's it's coming into fruition, and I'm so super excited. And obviously, like this album just talks about pointing out the obviously is all the mistakes and issues that I myself have been dealing with, and I mean Brie kind of too. And I think when we look at it, like I think we've all dealt with similar situations that are gonna be talked about in this in this EP. So just the idea of like being reminiscent and being in the hurt and trying to figure out why we're hurt. So it's gonna be really, really cool.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:58

All right, sweet. Well, we are at an hour, so I don't know. Does anybody else have anything that they want to mention?

unknown 1:02:06

Nothing.

SPEAKER_03 1:02:07

I'll take that as a no.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:08

Dude, signal the skies banned on TikTok, on Instagram, and uh for all the you know the unks out there, Facebook is just signal the skies, dude.

SPEAKER_03 1:02:16

And then the single comes out October October 17th is the plan. So but it might be the twenty fourth.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:22

Yeah, follow our pages and you you'll get to know everything.

SPEAKER_03 1:02:26

All right, thanks everybody listening. Bye, love you.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:28

Bye.