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#24 – Melissa Moon – Effective Ways to Heal Stress Using Nervous System Training
In this episode, we sit down with Melissa Moon, owner of Moon Healing Studio in Auburn CA, to dive deep into the power of the nervous system and its role in managing stress. Melissa shares her personal journey of facing physical manifestations of stress and how it led her to discover holistic healing. Together, we explore why chronic stress impacts our bodies, how unresolved tension accelerates aging, and the transformative potential of nervous system training.
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What was that period where you had this experience with yourself and then you made a decision that I want to do this and help other people?
Speaker 3:I got here through my own personal experience of feeling stress and tension in the building of life inside of my body and not dealing with the subtle body cues and having to deal with a physical manifestation of my stress and tension that ultimately gave me no choice but to pay attention to it.
Speaker 1:You're saying everything's kind of intertwined.
Speaker 3:Absolutely. We are not just bits and parts and pieces, but we are a whole system, and that whole system is about mind, body, spirit, but also us and the domains that we live in. If we want anything to truly change, we have to change from the inside out. It's an inside job.
Speaker 3:For sure, if you're in chronic stress for an extended period of time, you have upped your premature aging by a lot. My vision is to continue to do this work and expand in ways that feel aligned, whatever those may be melissa, thank you so much for doing this.
Speaker 1:I remember when we met at the chamber event. I've seen you all over and always wondering, like what is exactly that you do? You did mention it, but I'm not really familiar with this type of approach to health, and I think maybe a lot of people in our community also they're not really that familiar with, so I would like to hear a little bit more from you on the website. I went on your website. I read a little bit here. It says that so you are the owner of Moon Healing Studio, which is a practice that helps people retrain their nervous system as a means to guide them away from pain, stress and tension and into a life of greater peace, harmony and ease. What exactly does that mean and how did you get here?
Speaker 3:Well, I got here through my own personal experience of feeling stress and tension in the building of life inside of my body and not dealing with the subtle body cues and having to deal with a physical manifestation of my stress and tension that ultimately gave me no choice but to pay attention to it. And so in that space I started to understand like we are not just bits and parts and pieces, but we are a whole system, and that whole system is about mind, body, spirit, but also us and the domains that we live in physical, mental, emotional, spiritual, family, career, social, financial, like all these. It's like creating a big wheel, right, Because if one is lower than the other, or a bunch are lower than the other, and we think about it as a wheel going down the road like how smooth is that ride going to be, or how bumpy is that ride going to be?
Speaker 1:You're saying everything's kind of intertwined. Absolutely Okay, I agree with that. We are holistic, right?
Speaker 3:So I'm here in my space at Moon Healing Studio. It's about wholeness and wellness, and in wellness we're working with the nervous system. And so when we're working with the nervous system, first I'm addressing the physical piece, so how we hold our body, the posture, the tension we have, right, it's like we all know where we hold our stuff. You know, maybe your backpack's a little heavy, right? So you're holding it in your shoulders or between your shoulder blades, or like it's all being loaded down in your back or your hips, in your knees, like wherever.
Speaker 3:And so when we address the patterns in the system by addressing first the ease, like going into more of the ease we share that in a global way, and so there's a lot in there. So, and the nervous system is where we first can access the opportunity to connect into the ease and create more of that. Because whatever we focus on inward, we're going to focus on outside of us too, right, like the shape, tone and tension of our body reflects the shape, tone and tension of our life. So if we want anything to truly change, we have to change from the inside out. So it's an inside job for sure.
Speaker 1:So are you saying that basically, a lot of the pain or the struggles that we have in our physical health, they are the outcome or the result of something going on in our mind and in our spirit?
Speaker 3:Absolutely.
Speaker 1:It's interesting, because when someone has an issue with their health, something is aching, something's not right, they go to their primary care physician. That's not what they hear. No, so were your? Did you have some kind of an experience that really okay? I'd like to hear about that.
Speaker 3:Absolutely so. In my mid twenties I became a mom at the age of 26 and you know, growing a family, starting a family, transitioning through our twenties like there's a lot happening all at once. I was also getting divorced from my first husband and then I was with a new partner and lots of things were happening. And in all the chaos of life and continuing trying to find myself, I was ignoring a lot of different things. I was ignoring a lot of ways that I felt things I needed to say how I needed to stand up for myself. And even though I thought I was doing a pretty good job of it, I wasn't. I wasn't, I wasn't.
Speaker 3:And when I came to terms with that, my body also showed me that I wasn't doing a very good job. And so I woke up on a Tuesday afternoon after, you know, taking a nap with my you know seven-month-old, after taking a nap with my seven-month-old, and I looked in the mirror and I had a lump the size of an egg on my throat and it was something that literally came overnight. Whoa, because it's like I would have noticed that. Right, it was like if that was happening, it's like at least I would hope I would notice that and I live with other adults in the house and it's like nobody else noticed that.
Speaker 1:So was that visible?
Speaker 3:Oh, it was huge, yeah it was three inches long and it came out of my throat. Over time it actually got to my jawline, so it got big.
Speaker 1:Did it freak you out?
Speaker 3:You know, in that moment I was like what is this Again? Why didn't I notice this? And then I actually was guided into more curiosity, because I was in an awakening process also during this time of listening to my body my daughter was born at home I was trusting my own body's like innate intelligence and wisdom. Was that?
Speaker 3:intentional To get yeah, absolutely For my first child. Like my grandmother was born at home in the 30s and I was like, well, she was born at home in the 30s. Like why can't I give birth at home with a midwife?
Speaker 1:And so, okay, that's interesting. So this is something that you were preparing for. That's how you wanted to. Okay, yes, Okay.
Speaker 3:And so, following these guides, this guided instinct, right, and it's like, okay, now I have this thing on my throat. I have a new family, I'm in a situation in my life that I didn't expect, like the family unit and how life was unfolding was not what I anticipated. But, you know, going with it, the thing showed up on my throat and I was very curious. I was like, well, what is this, why is this happening? And so I did go to a doctor and in that doctor visit we decided we did an ultrasound and it was filled with fluid and it was movable. So it wasn't fixed and I didn't have a sense of emergency. And so what I decided to do is I went through more talk, therapy as the first route, and so took time, discussed with a therapist, you know, looking at the good stuff, the bad stuff, the issues. It's like mommy issues, daddy issues, trust issues, just all these things that have been ruminating inside of me, and it's like what we don't know. We don't know until we know it.
Speaker 3:And so having someone who's skilled and is able to guide you into these spaces is so valuable. And so through that work we dealt with all the like, bad stuff, right, like the stuff in the background that's like causing all the havoc. And so once we got a pretty good idea and grip and handle on all what that is or what that was, my therapist said, okay, now that we've dealt with all this like quote, unquote bad stuff, she's like I want to pivot you and I want you to focus on what's right in your body. And that piqued my curiosity because I have never had anybody ever say that to me. I'm like what's right about me? What's?
Speaker 1:right in my body.
Speaker 3:And so it was enough that I was like, okay, I'm game, like I want to explore this.
Speaker 3:I'm trying to, you know, understand why my body has created this physical manifestation in the throat which is like throat chakra stuff, communication, trust, truth, speaking your, you know, speaking speaking your truth, like standing up for yourself, right, there's like all this energetic stuff that goes along with it, right, the emotional, the mental, the spiritual, the physical stuff is the body's last ditch effort to actually say pay attention.
Speaker 3:So I went and saw my practitioners and my mentors at Graceful Health Chiropractic down in Newcastle and, with their guidance, through Elon entrainments for about a year or so, this kind of apex, it got past my jawline and then I slowly started to see it recede down and then during that timeframe so it was about a two-year process of like exploring, connecting, reorganizing my body, and then, when I'm reorganizing my body, I'm reorganizing my body. And then, when I'm reorganizing my body, I'm reorganizing my life and how I'm embodying more of my spine, connecting more to my truth, my communication. I watched my body change and I watched my body heal itself and I watched myself change and I watched myself heal and during that time frame, like it went down and ended up going in for surgery because I was working with Medi-Cal, so everything's like super slow with them anyways. And um, they went in there and they were like it was just a salivary gland that filled up with blood and then went, went away and why does that happen?
Speaker 3:They didn't know.
Speaker 1:They don't know no.
Speaker 3:I had had the best ent in placer county and it stumped him do you now know?
Speaker 3:I do and when I said it to him I was like could this be like communication, like the physical thing be a representation of my emotional and mental stress, health? And he's just like laughs at you know, doctor, he's like yeah sure, like yeah sure, you know. It's like okay, well, you go in and you do your thing, clean me out, make sure it's not anything that's like a problem. Cause on the level of like one to 10, 10 being a problem, one being not a problem, it was definitely a one, and you know I have a scar from it and I went through the surgery and you know have also not had anything come back up in that way.
Speaker 3:But now I'm way more sensitive to the things that are happening in my life, and then I can start feeling this when I'm hitting those same frequencies or situations that I used to ignore.
Speaker 1:Do you find it interesting, like whenever you're talking to a, a doctor, like practicing in the traditional western medicine, like, are these? These conversations are kind of weird because they're always like it's almost like they have this religion in the way they treat people and what's the protocol? Like when you start talking about frequency, you know different levels of consciousness. They're like come on, it's like no, I don't know. You know, I told you about where we opened up a wellness center in El Dorado Hills and we got a couple nurses. Now that we're booking IVs, obviously we have to have a registered nurse working there. One of the nurses she's really, really good and she was talking to some doctor and she was just telling him about what Arctic Elevation that's the name of our business what exactly we do and what kind of modalities we have the IV drip, nad plus, you know, vitamin B12 and all that and he was like kind of frowning, you know, and all that. And she's like, yeah, he said and he used the word sketchy or something.
Speaker 3:Like woo-woo. Oh, you're doing woo-woo, you know.
Speaker 1:And it's like, and I'm like, yeah, I'm not really, I'm not surprised, you know. So, okay, anyway, go ahead.
Speaker 3:So yes, you know. So okay, Anyway, go ahead. So, yes, so if an emergency happens and I get in a car accident, it's like, please take me to the ER right.
Speaker 3:I mean when it comes to acute care. Our medical system is incredible. There are so many amazing things that they do when it comes to chronic care and actually taking care of somebody in a preventative way and a way that actually is monitoring things like hormone levels and vitamin levels and you know a variety of other things. They don't do that for whatever reason, unless you see someone who's like in functional medicine, right Like thank.
Speaker 3:God, we have some doctors who are coming into the functional space and they're doing these things, and then they're able to treat people with protocols and being able to utilize the allopathic medicine model, but ultimately they're treating symptoms and they're treating the parts of you. And so that's a mechanistic view of like the parts create the whole right and it and it's like, well, we're not a car like you go in and you replace a part, like there's other things that are happening you don't just you can replace a carburetor, or they don't have those anymore.
Speaker 3:That's for an old car. They still have those old cars yeah um, not the new ones, but you know, it's like it's not the same. We are vitalistic, we are mind, body and spirit, because there are so many things that happen in the body. Medicine doesn't know how it happens, it's just the magic of it. You know, you get a cut on your finger. You can put Neosporin, you can put a Band-Aid, but what actually heals the body is the body heals the body.
Speaker 1:Yes, yes.
Speaker 3:So how do we connect into the frequency, the vibration, the energy, that of what we are created of, and how do we honor that piece too? So there's a beautiful marrying of both worlds that can absolutely happen, and the beautiful thing that I encounter with the people that I see in my care is that people want to be cared for, and I came from the medical field. I was an x-ray tech, a medical assistant. I grew up with a family of nurses and doctors, and so I remember as a kid going to the hospital to see my uncle, going to the hospital to see my aunt while they're on their shifts, and being immersed in that space. And then, once I got into that space and I was taking care of patients, I didn't last long because I was like I don't think people are being cared for and this isn't the way that I want to be of service, to help create solutions to inherent problems.
Speaker 3:And the truth is that people want to be cared for. And also health truly is the inner journey of discovery, like if we believe that our mindset and our environment creates genetic expression through a study called epigenetics, then there's a lot to be said about how we can approach somebody in their overall healing. It's like if you have breast cancer and you're harboring. You know specific feelings around certain things. You know, like how different could it be if you addressed the emotional part of it first before you go into? You know radiation and chemotherapy, which is it's. It's a hard road.
Speaker 1:Cause it, it, it. Basically all that kind of treatment just completely beats down on the body right Like it's it's like it's destructive. It's. I mean it's trying to kill the cancer, but it's also wiping everything. It's wiping out everything.
Speaker 3:It's um there's a place for all of it. Yeah, but it's just this idea of like well, how do we create complementary experiences where we can utilize the tools and the technology we have but also really honor the person?
Speaker 1:So what was that period where you had this experience with yourself and then you made a decision that, hey, I want to do this for others and help other people?
Speaker 3:I always remember wanting to be of service as a young child, and so, as I went through high school, I was doing ROP and I was doing sports med, so I was learning how to take care of bodies you know athletic bodies treating them, you know, keeping them just functioning well, right and taking care of injuries and making sure that they are prime for the field, and that was really interesting. I really enjoyed that.
Speaker 3:Human physiology and kinesiology but then I decided that I really wanted to go into nutrition and food science. So I went to Chico State and did nutrition, food science and did that BS coursework and so I was actually working alongside like pre-med students with a lot of, like that, foundational classes with you know, biology and chemistry and physiology, and so that was interesting as a side note, and so ended up leaving college, moved across country with my first husband because he was in the Navy, and then when I came back I decided to do x-ray technician school because I was like I want to be in the medical field and I didn't. I wasn't going for a registered dietitian, I was actually going for nutrition, food science food service admin Definitely didn't want to work in a restaurant 80 hours a week.
Speaker 3:It was like not my jam, but I was like building, I was building upon something right.
Speaker 3:So I did x-ray tech, school medical assisting, and so then from there it's like I had this great foundation of the physical piece, the medical piece, the you know why things are working piece.
Speaker 3:I decided after my daughter was born that I wanted to work with people again and at that time I was initiated into Reiki, which was a spiritual practice of hands-on healing, letting the energy of the universe flow as a conduit to help restore energy and balance in somebody else's system for whatever levels of healing that they needed at that moment. Right, just kind of like let it happen, it'll happen on its own. That was an amazing practice that I did for a couple of years but got a little bored of it, kind of like veered off doing other things with kids you know, small children. I was really dedicated to being a stay-at-home mom and making sure that I could do that as much as possible, and then, when I went through my healing stuff and my self-healing crisis, I realized that this was an opportunity to take everything that I gathered from all the different experiences from school and hands-on work with people learn high-end neurology.
Speaker 3:My teachers are chiropractors by license, so pretty much got like a chiropractor's like education to some degree, about bringing all these things together to be able to work with people. So I'm a healing facilitator and being a healing facilitator I have a lot of room to be able to help move people forward. So not here to fix you, not here to like diagnose or treat anything. Because, inherently like nothing's broken, just something's not in balance, like things aren't in harmony.
Speaker 1:It's almost like it feels like sometimes, the way I look at it, you're just helping a person look and and examine certain things in their life and then they see like if they're not looking right there in that direction, they're not going to see anything. You're like hey yeah, you see that, oh, you know, and it's almost like that, and and very often, um, we live in in this world, in very fast-paced society, where nobody really does that. Do you think that right now people are more healthier than they used to be, or the opposite?
Speaker 3:I think environmental and chemical load is more than we've ever ever seen in our lifetime. So I think that in that sense, we are not healthier, but the conversation and the awareness around taking steps to becoming healthier are absolutely there.
Speaker 3:So, like, what you have created or helped bring to Eldorado Hills right is a huge asset. Because when we implement that conversation, it's like come in, take care of yourself, get the things that you need so that your foundation is solid. So when things do show up, it's like, yeah, we're going to get. You know, we're going to get sick, we're going to go down every once in a while, but it's like someone starts to trust themselves more about what it is they need to do. And so that's what I'm doing with my care is, not only are we addressing stress and tension patterns, which stress is a killer. It's a killer. It causes inflammation. If you're in chronic stress for an extended period of time, you have upped your premature aging by a lot, and so we got to get people out of the stress, out of that sympathetic response fight flight or freeze, know what it feels like to feel safe in your body, because we all have trauma, we're all.
Speaker 3:We all go through stuff. You know we all have childhoods that have ups and downs, that are. We are being pre-programmed. We're being programmed in some way, shape or form and so then it's like, okay, well, how do we interrupt the programming? That doesn't really work for us anymore? Not ever. You know, it's like any good computer system Get out, get rid of some old files, refragment the computer, make sure all the circuitry is up and like, running well, that the new system is getting their uploads.
Speaker 3:And so nervous system wise, it's no different. Yeah, and so I'm helping people upgrade their nervous system on a consistent basis, and I know this from my own care. I've been in care since 2012 and I know what it feels like to upgrade my nervous system on like a weekly basis well because it's life is happening and we're gathering all that info and then in that we can take a moment to shift perspectives.
Speaker 3:so again that idea of like, oh, I, I've just been really focused this way. Well, what happens if I open my peripherals and I'm willing to sit back and like, look, oh, here's a different solution, here's a different solution. And so then that creates freedom. It creates freedom from the self-limiting behaviors that have been predictive of what you're going to do. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:You know, when you said stress, I remember a situation I was still a kid. My dad started doing flooring and he needed a bigger truck. He had a very small truck. He needed a bigger truck. So he made some money and he went to a dealership to look at a truck. He never even expected to buy something, but there was a really good sales guy, talked him into buying a brand new truck and it was like 36 000 back then for for a diesel, you know, and obviously he uh, he didn't, didn't pay cash for it, but he, he got the loan and everything.
Speaker 1:So he drove this truck home and then that whole night he could not sleep. He was so stressed, like what the hell did I do? I'm gonna go tomorrow, I'm gonna take this truck back. And obviously in america, here, if you buy something, there's the um, the policy where you can't come back, you know, and it's like hey, you know, I, I don't want anymore. But he did try.
Speaker 1:He drove over there and they said, no, you can't, you know yeah and so we still sometimes when we talk about stress, because sometimes, like I had a situation in my life where I was super stressed. I was building my first custom home and there were so many different things are happening and I was like am I going to finish this project or not? And certain things started happening in my health like unexpected, like these, almost like panic attacks.
Speaker 1:You know I didn't know what the heck it was. I thought it was something with my heart, um. And so we, once in a while, we talk about that, like we're remembering, like, hey, this, this stuff like, and certain personalities, like people, some I've observed some people who, uh, the roof is falling down and they can be just like, hey, it's all good, you know. And other and other people like something materialistic, something that's like, okay, a couple thousand dollars on the line, whatever, and they're like, stressed, they're all red, you know, it's like that's a killer right there.
Speaker 3:Absolutely, and we all have different frames of reference right. So it's interesting to see the fluctuations that people go through. Some people are really good at hiding it. Oh yeah, and the beautiful thing about our bodies and our nervous system is we gather the experiences of life ups and downs right Good stuff. We're in safety and growth and joy and love and connection, like right now. We're in a parasympathetic state, like I'm enjoying having a conversation with you. We're having, it's easy, it feels good you know.
Speaker 3:And then there are times that happen that go below our safety line, which are in defense, stress, and those moments where it's just like you know you stop breathing and your heart rate's getting crazy, and so we're always moving through those. And so, depending on someone's frame of reference, you know they're able to modulate in different ways, and so certain things can, yeah, get people super riled up and other people are they're good to go and also all that information that we don't know how to deal with, with those dips, with those stressful moments you know our body stores that stuff and so over time you experience that with the house.
Speaker 3:It's like like you're storing information. You're like I got to get something done. I'm stressed out, it's not going to be forever, but it was enough that you started to feel like you know you're getting, you're getting bombarded and your, your immune system goes down, you get moody and temper. You know that that moodiness and temper goes up. It's hard to really concentrate and think like there's a lot of things that happen. Yeah.
Speaker 3:And so when we create better body skills to know, like how that's happening through the body, knowing that you have places of ease that you can connect into, it becomes a different experience. The stress is going to be there how you deal with.
Speaker 2:the stress is going to be there how you deal with the stress is going to be up to you and how you let it affect your body is also going to be in more of your control yeah, have you.
Speaker 1:I wanted to show you something. Have you read this book? No it's very interesting because when I was on your web, when I was on your website and I was reading a few things and they reminded me I read this book probably the beginning of this year it blew me away. At first, when I just started reading it, it was so tough to understand what the heck he's talking about.
Speaker 1:I was about to just put it out. This is not on my level. And then I'm like, no, I'm just going to get through it. And lo and behold, I heard from other guys. They said that just get through the first part of the book. If you can't, then the rest of it is easier, and I'm so glad I did.
Speaker 3:Oh good.
Speaker 1:He persevered. The author came up with this map of consciousness here right oh yeah, and there's different calibration points.
Speaker 1:So the 20 is the lowest one and the emotion in the lowest one is humiliation. The level is called shame, that's 20. So basically what he talks about, he says that there are different levels of consciousness, the power level. The power is the positive, the force is the negative and at 200 calibration level, that is the first level into the power category, which is the positive category, and that's level, courage, and the emotion is affirmation. And then it moves up to neutrality, willingness, acceptance, reason, love, joy, peace, and the highest one is enlightenment. He says that only few people in the world reach enlightenment, that level.
Speaker 1:And what's really really interesting is, as I was reading this book and he was saying that most people stay within that level of consciousness throughout their whole life, unless something really happens in their life that makes them aware of this and know this, then they can start moving into the positive. And I started remembering certain people from my life who were just always like the world is set out to get them. You ask them how they're doing, they're like I'm still alive, you know, like that kind of response you know Absolutely. And what he's saying is that this is a frequency that is put out and when you are putting out like, just like the radio frequency, if someone else is on that frequency, then you attract that. So basically, you are doing it even worse for yourself, because now you're attracting these negative emotions, these negative feelings, and then they have an impact on your health, like your physical health, because he also talks about that. We are a whole. There is no like oh, he's like, I have a body. I am not the body, I have a body.
Speaker 3:That's a big thing for a lot of people to understand.
Speaker 1:So if you, uh, if you have man, you gotta pick up this book. This is really really cool book, man. I gotta read it again because I remember every page I was reading. I was like, oh my gosh, it was just mind-blowing.
Speaker 3:You know one of those books, um once those little things that start to click, you're like, oh I, it's like we feel that, like you read that book and I'm sure at some point you're like, oh yeah, I like I feel that I feel that information, like the truth of the information, you know, that hit when that stuff kind of hits in that way, it's undeniable. You're like no one, you know.
Speaker 3:At that point, it's like no one can tell me otherwise yeah, like there's truth in that and the important thing is that we all have our own truths and whatever we believe to be true will be the truth. So if you're just like grumbly through the day and you're in a state of polarity, it's not me, it's them. Like. If that person could learn to drive on the road like, it wouldn't set me off. You know it's like. If they're stuck in that state of consciousness, you know they're going to attract more of that in their life.
Speaker 3:Yeah, if you are stuck in a state or if you are embracing a state of consciousness, like being connected in ease. Because you can find that in your body and you can find that outside in your life, like what you focus on, you're going to get more of. Yeah.
Speaker 3:Like I've been on a gratitude journey reading the book called the Magic for the last month. It's a 28-day process and so I've been going through some of the days and then really kind of like embodying the practices. So I have, you know, it's been a little bit longer, but it's been beautiful to keep bringing it back to gratitude. Bringing it back to gratitude, you know, being thankful for the firemen today who are doing their job and putting that hydrant back together.
Speaker 3:It was amazing you know, and it's like I am so grateful that we have such great civil servants and people that are here to help take care of our community, to create safety, good roads protection, putting out fires Like like.
Speaker 3:thank you and I'm also really grateful to wake up in the morning and see the sun, yes, and the moon. You know we can appreciate both because they both exist. Yeah, if only the sun existed I'd just be like, oh yeah, that thing Wouldn't be a lot of gratefulness for it. But because we experience night and day, it's like. I love every sunset. I'm grateful for every sunrise and the moon gets me every single time.
Speaker 1:Well, let's talk a little bit about this. You brought this here. This is a jar, there's water and there's little bubbles here, and I'll let you take over. Absolutely what exactly is this water?
Speaker 3:Okay, so I've been drinking this water for 10 plus years 10 plus years. I've been drinking, so it's called Kangen. It's called Kangen water. I've been drinking it for 10 plus years. I just recently got a machine for my own studio and for my practice members. So at Moon Healing Studio we are a wellness community. So not only am I doing entrainments and you were talking about that frequency, that energy thing like that's entraining, entraining to the energy you know, so entrainments, people getting on the table.
Speaker 3:I have my cocoon rooms so I'm supporting my practice. Members, with red light therapy, near infrared right, we know the benefits of that Collagen production, good skin, but also cellular healing and energy.
Speaker 3:I also have biomats. They're filled with amethyst crystals and they have far infrared technology, so grounding but deeper penetration into the cell. So it's like come in, like let's get into the parasympathetic rest, digest, heal state, feel at home, feel comfortable, be able to let go. And so with that, this was the next step for my practice and that's introducing Kangen water, which is alkaline. It creates molecular hydrogen, so it's hydrogen-rich water and hydrogen is the first element in the periodic table.
Speaker 3:It is the smallest element, but it also offers its electron to free radicals, so it is a free radical antidote. So in the free radicals that's what causes oxidative stress, and oxidative stress is what causes inflammation, which inflammation is like the root of all disease.
Speaker 1:Yeah, like for the most part, blood pressure and all that. So many things.
Speaker 3:And so that alkalinity the 9.5, because we live in such an acidic environment.
Speaker 1:Yes.
Speaker 3:Like your bubble water. I'm sorry, it's like carbonation. So you're adding CO2 to water and then you're drinking that water out of a can or a bottle and if you test the pH of that that's like four. At least the St Croix that I tested recently it was like a pH of like four or five. That's acidic. Our blood wants to be 7.2.
Speaker 1:7.2. What about like? So, let's say, you go to the grocery store and I think some of the most expensive water there is what Fiji. Fiji water. How does this water compare to water like that?
Speaker 3:Well, I'm sure that the source of the water is good, but what happens after you bottle it in plastic, because fiji's in plastic yes so you're getting microplastics and whatever toxins are a part of the plastic. Usually bottle water sits in those bottles for up to two years. So if it's being shipped economically, you're bringing water from fiji Like we have water in our backyard. You know it's like we got good water around here.
Speaker 3:So for the green footprint of it it's like it's costing a lot of energy to get it to us. It's sitting in bottles, and those bottles, who knows if they sat on the tarmac at the airport in the hot sun?
Speaker 1:And what does that do?
Speaker 3:Well, it degrades the plastic down and then the plastic gets in the water. I the airport in the hot sun, and what does that do? Well, it degrades the plastic down and then the plastic gets in the water. I mean even the water that comes through PVC pipes. It picks up microplastics, and microplastics in our body are no good. They just accumulate, and we're not supposed to have plastic in our body.
Speaker 1:Can you get rid of them?
Speaker 3:There are protocols to detox plastics. So this water, on top of it being alkaline and molecular hydrogen rich, it also is living and structured.
Speaker 1:Living and structured.
Speaker 3:Living structured water and so what that means like when you drink it it has a completely different mouthfeel. Like the water I get from my tap, from my well at home feels like heavy. It's good water, like don't get me wrong.
Speaker 1:You have a well, I have a well, and we've tested every year.
Speaker 3:If you have a well test every year, people Make sure you're like looking at your water source, but it's like it's a different taste. There's something else to it. Your water source, but it's like it's a different taste. There's something else to it. When I drink the Kangen water, it's like a lighter mouthfeel and it's also a structured water and so I don't know it. Just there's something to it. And it's one of those things where it's like usually when I drink too much water, like I don't feel well, like I just get like bogged down. Never have this issue with this water.
Speaker 1:How much water do you drink?
Speaker 3:a day. I probably at least go through three of these a day. Okay, so you know a few liters, which is good, it's plenty when the water goes through. Okay, so the machine hooks up to your faucet. You just put your little you know nozzle attachment. You have a discard hose, you plug it into the wall, you turn on your faucet and the water goes through the system.
Speaker 3:So the water as it goes through the filtration. So there's a filter in it that's taking out all the bad stuff the chlorine, and it's a really high-end filter, so it's doing a lot more than the Brita is. But then it goes over platinum plates that are electrolysizing the water, so it's electrolysis that creates the pH and the hydrogen, and so you can pick a variety of different pHs, everything from 2.5 to 11.5, for different uses, and so when that water comes through, it's also micro clustering the water molecules, so they're making them smaller, which adds to your hydration. Wow, so you're actually like I had a moment running a few weeks back and I was like man. I was like my endurance has like shot up, like my ability to like work out, run and I haven't been running that much just was like on a next level, and I stopped for a second and I'm like I'm hydrated, like that was the first thing that came to mind. I was like, oh my gosh, like I'm actually hydrated.
Speaker 1:And that's so important because I know like people even get to the hospitals and like something's wrong with the body and then they are like, oh, that was, I was just dehydrated.
Speaker 3:We are dealing with chronic dehydration. If you're drinking coffee, caffeinated beverages, things that are highly acidic, you're probably dehydrated to some degree and it's not the pee thing. You know that whole chart if it's a certain color, you're good to go. You can drink a ton of water and it can go right through you and actually not hydrate.
Speaker 1:Yes, I heard that. I heard about that.
Speaker 3:Yeah, so there's a lot around and it's one of those things that's like you got to feel it. There's a moment of just like, oh, like this is what it feels to be hydrated, and when we're hydrated, our nervous system works well.
Speaker 1:Yes.
Speaker 3:It's neuroprotective. You know it's like our body is 70% water and the reason we are not water bags is because we have structured water in our bodies.
Speaker 3:It's what lines our cells. And so then there's thought and there's conversations out there in the medical field that like, well, what's a blood clot Is? A blood clot is when you're you know, could it be that the water is destructured in your veins, causing buildup? So, and even that the heart isn't even a pump, it's a vortex, yeah, with it working its way through with the force and the structure of the water. Because when you look at water going through a stream and you kind of see how it moves through like a natural habitat, it moves in a helix.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, yeah, you're right. Did you ever hear this? That water contains memory.
Speaker 3:Yes, there's a doctor, I'm not good with the Japanese names but there's been so much study work around that about just saying like thank you to your water or the word hate, and like taking those waters, freezing them and looking at the crystal structures and the love, the thank you has a beautiful crystal structure and the hate comes out. This like nasty, gnarled, you know spiky thing. It's interesting.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and same thing with like garden. I remember I think my grandpa was saying that in Ukraine they had a garden and every morning like he would go and he would like talk to the plants, the trees, and there is something to it, because that's not the only person that I heard it from. But even like playing classical music. They did a study playing like classical music for certain plants and then some weird distortion you know these metal guitars and what kind of effect it has on the plants. It's crazy.
Speaker 3:It's real.
Speaker 1:It is real.
Speaker 3:Love makes things grow. I mean truly Like children. Babies need to be touched.
Speaker 1:You know they need to be loved on.
Speaker 3:Humans need to be touched. It's the social glue that keeps us bound together. You know, and it's like that's what I love about what I do in the studios I'm I can offer that touch right, it's safe, no one, no one. You know, I don't, nobody has to. You know, give me anything in return, there's no expectation, but it's just this opportunity for someone to be touched, that input in their system to help lower anxiety, trauma, pain responses. That's real stuff that is being talked about in these types of circles of the work that I do. You know, this kind of study work about how important it is to help people like gracefully move through things without re-traumatizing.
Speaker 1:So when people come to you, is it mainly because something's not working out for them Like they're having bad experience with with the doctor and they're just not finding the right path to healing, or is it that they're aware of different approach and they actually, you know, they come to you because they already kind of know about it?
Speaker 3:Yeah, I think like backing up on what we were talking about earlier is like I think that there's that conversation. People are becoming more aware of the fact that we are more than just this meat body, right?
Speaker 3:You know it's like you are not a floating head on top of like a body, like you are one whole thing. So I've had a lot of those conversations with like my older practice members of just like I want to live my life. You know I'm in my sixties, like I'm ready to like live my life and I'm ready to connect. Like my head feels like it's just floating on my body and I don't have any like say in what's actually happening. So I would like a clearer connection because we need to bring the body along for the ride. It's part of it.
Speaker 3:Yes, I do see people there's a good group of people who, yes, have gone through the medical industry and just been like chewed up, spit out, not feeling cared for, not feeling seen, not getting the support that they actually need. So there are those clients. Absolutely A lot is really focused around stress, stress, anxiety, depression and quality of life, and it's one of those things where people are like there's just something else, there's a piece I'm not connecting into. I'm doing all the right things right, I'm working out, exercising, I'm just not happy. There's just something that isn't there, and usually the nervous system, this work is what helps propel them through that. You know, and I do quality of life assessments.
Speaker 3:So today I had a practice member who came in. It was her six week progress assessment. We do all this stuff in the beginning. So we have our baseline the neurologics, how the body is organized, stress and tension patterns, and then also their perception of how they see themselves in their physical health, mental and emotional health, their stress health, their quality of life and their life enjoyment. So you're giving yourself a number right, one through 10. How are you rating this?
Speaker 3:And then we come six, eight weeks down the line after working together on the table for you know that amount of time. And we do another nervous system tension check. Right, how are things reorganizing? What's changing in your body? Is your spine more flexible? Have your muscles relaxed a little bit Like, how are things shifting? Cause those are indicators of health and also another quality of life assessment how do you perceive your life, how do you see yourself in all these domains? And so my practice member today came in because she was going through big transitions a divorce, not feeling safe in her situation, in her body, how to deal with things, and her stress health improved by 320 percent. Her stress was a 10 out of 100 when and today was a 46 out of 100.
Speaker 3:Wow and that's. And you know she was skeptical, like I could tell in the beginning she was just like all right, I'll give it a go and how long did it take from the beginning that the first time where she was at 10? She saw me August 2nd.
Speaker 1:Oh, so it was just relatively recent, wow.
Speaker 3:Yeah, so we do those initial, like the first progress assessment in the six to eight week timeframe and then the second one we'll do one later on down the line at six months. So just building upon what's happening. But I mean, could you imagine just shifting your stress health by just 20? Like 320 is a big change. For someone who started out with like a 10 to a 46, that's huge so I would assume majority of your.
Speaker 1:You call them clients or practice members practice members, um kind of like stick around with you long term if they like see results like that. Like, yeah, and how do you find, like do most of the people are from auburn community or they coming from, you know, roseville, rockland, all over?
Speaker 3:Yeah, I have, I think. I think probably a third of the practice is Auburn and little surrounding areas, and then I have a good amount of Rockland and Roseville practice members, but I've had people as far as well. I have Sacramento practice members. I had someone coming from Lodi for a little bit.
Speaker 1:Lodi okay.
Speaker 3:It would end up being too much of a drive, which is understandable. So we figured out a different plan for her and figured out somewhere else she could go and be supported.
Speaker 1:The reason why I'm asking. When we were considering a location for Arctic Elevation, the wellness center, I was looking at different parts of the Placer County and one thing that I noticed is and we made that determination that although Auburn is a great community I love Auburn. We've been living here for four years um, you know, like they, the, the ceo of the business, uh, was really um, kind of encouraging us to look at different locations, and when I looked at el dorado hills, I noticed that there's just more people there who are a lot more conscious about their health. They're serious and obviously, yes, their income is there a little bit higher, but it really helps when you have a business like that. It really helps that people come. You don't have to really do a lot of marketing and prove to them that what you got going is going to benefit them.
Speaker 1:They already know, so they're coming there by their own will, and that's the beautiful thing about this compared to, let's say, urgent care or hospital. People go there, they have to go there. They feel like, okay, I got to go there, they, they have to go there. Like they feel like, okay, I gotta go there. I have an either emergency or something's going on there, I you know, but uh, or, or just let's say, primary care physician, same thing, right, but when they come to a place like you know what you have, um, they, they, um, they're, they're already like they're it's it's by their own will they're making a choice.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's, that's the word I'm trying to look for.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I agree, if I was further down the hill I would probably have a completely different practice, just because it's concentration of people, right? Yeah.
Speaker 3:I mean, el Dorado Hills is incredible and there are people who are health conscious and showing up to do things. So, yes, I love being in my Auburn community. I actually live further up the hill in Chicago Park, so I have mentally gone over this a bunch of times being like, could I do something in Roseville? And it's like man, I really don't want to drive that much and Auburn's a hub for what my kids are doing for school and my family's here, and I love this community and for the right practitioner relationship for somebody who can help you. I don't believe in like a car ride, just a car ride For the right practitioner. I would drive to San Francisco and I would never go to San Francisco anymore, ever, ever.
Speaker 1:But for the right practitioner who's?
Speaker 3:doing good work and I'm getting results and my life is changing because of it, absolutely. I mean, I used to live in Georgetown and I would drive to Newcastle. That's a long drive.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 3:So anybody's like you know we do what we can do, and if you want something to work, you'll find a way for it to work.
Speaker 1:You know, unfortunately, there's one thing that I noticed. I'm just going to say it. I have never said this before, but this is my observation and it's true because I began as soon as I, when I started being really conscious about health and seeing things. Like, even after reading this book, you kind of go into places where there's people and you can sort of like feel like the energy right. So I'm going to say this we have a lot of people in Auburn who are good business owners, they're running really good businesses and stuff, but they're not healthy, they're they're not taking care of their body and I feel like like that they would be, like probably, like it would be a good, good people to talk to about the stuff like this, because there's a lot of other people that depend on them. Like some of them have like 200 employees.
Speaker 3:A good entrepreneur knows how to sharpen their saw.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 3:So if you're not sharpening your saw and you're not in excellent health, with good systems, having a primary aim as to why you're doing what you're doing, it's hard for success to be felt. And I work with actually a lot of entrepreneurs, Like a lot of my practice are business owners to some degree and it's been awesome to watch them get healthier, reduce their stress level, up their business and make bigger choices. Because they got it. They got it. I opened up my studio July of 2020. So I had a place in January of 2020, shared a studio space with somebody else that dissolved in May, had an interim spot and then opened up my own brick and mortar July of 2020 in North Auburn and I breathe on people, I touch people. I was like come to me.
Speaker 3:Let's do some work and my practice members people showed up and people were being taken care of and people were healthy and being healthier through all the stress and the chaos that we dealt with in that time frame.
Speaker 1:Yeah. What do you think will happen if we had another COVID situation? Do you think people would repeat the way they responded and handled it?
Speaker 3:I think there's a lot of learning that has happened and there's not been enough time in between to forget. Like my daughters are six years apart, so long enough apart to forget about what diapers were like. And then you get back in the diaper world. You're like damn forgot about this.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3:So we do have short attention spans, not that short, so I I think it would be different yeah I think it would be different, but I think the people, who I think people would be really solid in how they're going to react and how they're going to respond. I think there was a lot of confusion during that time of like, how do I? You know, I wore a mask because I came for a whole month in April went to the grocery store.
Speaker 3:I did the thing. I was like, great, four weeks, let's do it. And then after I was like I'm over this. Yeah. You know and my own personal beliefs about the intelligence of the body and the immune system of the body and just general basic things about immunology and just you know my understanding. So I think a lot more people have been educated and have educated themselves and have paid attention, so there's more paying attention to these types of things which is good.
Speaker 1:It is good.
Speaker 3:Let's have more transparency and conversations right, and that comes in empowerment around their health. You know, when you feel empowered around asking a doctor, well, why? And getting a second opinion, or pushing back a little bit and not just taking things for complete face value, but you're like, does that feel good? Do I feel good with that? Is that what I need to do?
Speaker 3:Like, the more we have that inside of us, it becomes a, it becomes easier to navigate these types of things yeah, yeah when we don't have that inside of us and we're just like I don't know, I'm just doing what I'm told, like it's really easy because we all do it, like even I was subjected to it, like we. We all have had those moments but there are people still uh I know oh, we just have to send them more love.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, right, yeah that's hey I love me and I have overflow to give to you, because you need that right now melissa.
Speaker 1:So what, what is your like long-term goal? Um, do you just want to like cruise through to continue doing what you're doing helping people or is there some vision that you have that you want to like cruise through to continue doing what you're doing helping people, or is there some vision that you have that you want to share?
Speaker 3:I love being in community and I love creating community wellness and wholeness in ways that people need, and so, working in Moon Healing Studio, that's what I'm continuing to do at this moment, and I have small, you know, my youngest is eight. Still in the midst of that, we're homeschooling. So there's a lot of, you know, attention that's being put in a variety of different ways, and so, as they continue to grow, I want to continue to show them like we can create a bigger impact in our community.
Speaker 3:And so that wellness piece yeah, it's like I'm building that now, working with my practice members, creating community events but also, yeah, my vision is to extend outward and to be able to touch more people, like in companies and corporations, and come in and introduce wellness in a different way. You know it's like if you feel better in your body, you're going to work better and be more productive. You're going to create a better culture and health in what you are doing and how you're sharing that with the world. Oh yeah.
Speaker 3:And so I'm into the ripple, I'm into dropping the stones and the ripple, and however that's going to lead me, it's like I'm going to get on that TEDx stage and I'm going to make sure that these messages are known and heard and to be able to empower people, because there's a lot of people out there that are already thinking these things. They just need the representation yes and so my vision is to continue to do this work and expand in ways that that feel aligned, whatever those may be.
Speaker 3:So you mentioned your home school I am why why yeah, I just want to hear it um, I'm homeschooling because public schools are non-negotiable. Just even before I had kids, I was not into the government school system I was one, and I was a very, very stressed out child, a lot of anxiety and I was like that's just not going to be the path for my children. So my we've done Waldorf like Waldorf school.
Speaker 3:We did Live Oak for a number of years and then when the pandemic hit and like the online stuff and the masking stuff and all that, I just was not going to pay for school to do that. Yeah, yeah. And I've always entertained the idea of unschooling and homeschooling, even before I had kids, and I was like, well, I would love to do that. And so then, during 2020, it gave me the opportunity. I was like, all right, well, this is the time, like, let's try it.
Speaker 3:And I did it for about a year with my oldest and I was like, all right, that kind of worked and we were enjoying that and through that, um, you know, she's part of independent study, so we are part of a charter, so we have you know we have that flexibility on top of some instruction on top of you know educational like enrichment classes that they go to on top of my kids go to a farm once a week and they learn how to milk cows and we rode horses on Wednesday and you know, play in the forest and pick things out of the garden and learn how to, you know, do life skills.
Speaker 1:While other kids are.
Speaker 3:Yep and I like sleeping in more days than not.
Speaker 1:So for your eight-year-old, are you kind of like keeping track of the work that she does, like the homework and all that?
Speaker 3:I keep my own personal records and we have a file and yeah, I mean we're just kind of trucking along and she's reading. Now, like the reading thing clicked in and so she was reading me her first book yesterday. Wow. It was like so cool.
Speaker 1:You encourage reading of books for your daughter.
Speaker 3:You know, because I come from more of the Waldorf view of letting first the child just be incarnated right Like learning in the first bits of early childhood development. It's not about learning to read or write, but it's learning about being in community. How do we work alongside each other? How do you learn? Through stories and play and being embodied and getting in the dirt and doing artwork and eating good meals together, you know, and singing songs and having fairy tales and doing plays, like that's so beautiful and that honors that child's spirit coming into their body. And as they get older now she's hitting eight, the nine year change. As she's getting older she's getting a stronger sense of self. More of that I am presence in her body and in that she becomes more curious. Because personally I don't care if my kids didn't read until they were like 10 or 11. Because the truth is is that children want to learn if you give them the right tools and the environment and through that wanting to learn, their skills develop.
Speaker 3:So I don't push reading but do we read with her? She gets read to every night she gets read and we've done like the boxcar children and the famous five and she gets taken down these beautiful stories. That gets her imagination going and then through that, you know it's just a natural thing Like, well, I want to read too. I have an older sister who can read. I have friends who can read. Can I do that and then allowing for her to excel in the things that she's really good at?
Speaker 3:She's great at math. We love doing math stuff. You know she loves doing art, so it's like focusing in on these things that they're good at, so that as they learn they retain, Because there's so much that I went through school-wise that I don't remember. It's like I learned a lot. I was at school a lot, five days a week, six hours a day. It's like what do I really know?
Speaker 1:Yeah, I think, man, I almost feel like they've took, let's say, the public school system. They took a form, certain structure and they just, you know, through the decades, through different, like almost like centuries, like it's the same type of thing. Now we're going to introduce this to all the kids, like they all all are different, all are raised different, have different levels of maturity, um, intelligence and all that but. But they're like they're grading them all on the same um, on the same kind of standards yeah, and I think that that's like a.
Speaker 3:Like a normal blood pressure is 120 over. Well, what if it's not normal for you? What if your blood pressure is higher than and that's the normal? Yeah.
Speaker 3:Right, and same thing with reading. It's like do kindergartners need to be proficient at reading? Probably not. There's nothing that profound coming out of that child's mouth at five years old because they're reading, you know whatever. Let them just be children. There's plenty of time for all that. And some kids at four years old want to read, Great, let them read. But if they don't want to and there's not that drive like, how else do we let them develop?
Speaker 3:Because all that other stuff will come along, yeah, and who knows? We've got technology now that will read to you. They're making it so that do we actually need to know how to write anything, or spell or have grammar or even cursive, like my children know how to write cursive. It is an art form.
Speaker 1:It is. I think it's really important to write cursive. There's just something like, for example like I have a note thing that's called um remarkable the one that you can like write on the screen oh yeah and then it can put it in in different files and they can even put it in certain fonts and all that.
Speaker 1:But there is just something about me taking just a regular notebook paper ink pen and just sitting there and just jotting something, something I'm thinking about, and just writing. There's something to it, there's a lot to it, different than what you're just sitting and typing away.
Speaker 3:I can't remember like what it initiates, but it's like the act of writing initiates like 6,000 different like motor neurons and like processes in the body, compared to like typing, something which is a lot less.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3:It's just writing's important and getting something out of our system, like if something's ruminating just swirling around. Write that stuff out. Write it out with your hands, with a pen and paper. I love pencil Personally. I'm like a mechanical pencil girl. Oh yeah. I love a good mechanical pencil. It just hits in the right way.
Speaker 3:That's my wife, I just love it and then I can erase it, but there's something to it and so when we start to go back to basics, back to foundation so again it's like back to the water we drink, Drink good water first. Start there. You feel bad. Go drink good water. If you're working through something in your body like check in, what do you need? Body? Can you breathe in your body? Can you put parts, hands on different parts, and breathe into those parts? Does that even work?
Speaker 1:Talk a little bit about that, the breathing. I've started also. I started hearing a lot about breathing techniques. There's this guy, I think he a lot about breathing techniques. There's this guy, I think he's called like the Iceman.
Speaker 3:Wim.
Speaker 1:Hof. Yeah, yeah, I just recently discovered him but he talks a lot about because he does all this crazy cold plunging and stuff. And I believe in that because I started doing that. It was like hiking in the snow in like shorts, yeah, yeah, and that's it shorts, yeah, and that's it, but, um, but as far as breathing, like you're saying, breathing into different parts of how does how does that work?
Speaker 3:how does that work? Absolutely, breathing is part of the autonomic nervous system.
Speaker 3:We don't have to think about breathing, just like we don't have to think about digesting our food, we don't have to think about our heart beating, like we don't have to be like, okay, beat, beat right. Okay, breathe Like God. Could you imagine the day if that was like our job? Everyone would just be focused on breathing. So it's happening regardless. On the other end of the spectrum, we can influence and control things like our breath. So then it turns into conscious healing, breath work and it's truly just ancient wisdom, like if we think about the tools that we have evolved with. Utilizing our breath to change our state of consciousness has been with us forever. There's different ways that we can breathe depending on what we want to accomplish.
Speaker 3:So there are things like Wim Hof right, it's a stress kind of. The way I experience it is that it's kind of like inducing a stress response. To be able to control the stress response. You get that breath going, you get into something cold. You know you're already like ramping yourself up and so in that space you can control and modulate and bring yourself back to more of a balance. I'm in the cold stuff. It's going to cause me to, but I'm already taking care of it. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3:The work that I'm doing in the studio. We call the breath work evolutionary personal care, because we work through different states of consciousness. There's different states of consciousness for the different lands we experience. So in beginning parts of care we work in the land of the ordinary, the land of the known, the land of quiet, desperation. You know, we know the ordinary stuff connected in ease, disconnected in searching, connected in despair, apathy, polarity, these types of things right, it's like we all know, like polarity. Right, it's not me, it's them. Connected and ease. It's a beautiful place to be. I feel at home. My breath comes together, my body's working, like everything feels good, you know, so that we understand these things, we can have these different states of consciousness existing in the body all at once, maybe in your hip, you can connect into it, but like it causes despair, just like it feels horrible. If you connect into your eyes, it could be connected in ease, like whew, this is nice, like I could sit and breathe here all day.
Speaker 3:When we do this neurologically, if I put my hands on my heart and I close my eyes and I'm breathing in my nose, out my mouth, can I send my focus right under my hands? First, the breath is a vehicle, so I'm letting the breath guide me here. And can I get the body to breathe and move? Can I get these things a couple together? So we're getting physical input and motor output. So neurologically it's a great parameter to check. Hey, put your hands on your belly, breathe in your belly. You know you have a belly. Can you actually do that? Some people cannot. There's a level of anesthesia or disconnect. So we want to check and see where someone is connected in their body and where someone is not as connected.
Speaker 1:I think I remember heard someone saying that you can breathe with your chest or you can breathe with your stomach.
Speaker 3:I can breathe all the way down in my like pinky toe. I can send my consciousness and my focus and my breath all the way down to the tip of my toe. What does that feel?
Speaker 1:like.
Speaker 3:Feels amazing. It just it feels like.
Speaker 3:I can navigate my body and which becomes a really important tool. So when things are happening in our system, right, I mean, a good example is like an emergency with children, right, it's like kids fall and you're like is this an emergency, right? Or emergency with yourself, when you can check in and be like, okay, whatever's happening, having a panic attack, okay, my heart's doing something. Can I get, can I connect there? Can I breathe into that place? Is there availability?
Speaker 3:When it comes to the ease, if we can breathe and connect, then it's like okay, you can start to bring the stress response down. All right, I can connect to my body. Okay, there's something to work with here. Now, what do I need to do? Once we kind of like drop it down a little bit, what is it that I need to do? Do I need to go to the hospital? Do I need to drink some tea? Do I need to go outside? Do I need to drink some tea? Do I need to go outside? What do I need to do? So we gather more of that information so that we know we can take care of ourselves.
Speaker 3:Same thing with kids, and so it becomes a valuable tool to just check in and realize like, oh, this part of me is asking for some attention. Can I give it the attention it needs? And then can I take action to help give it the attention it needs, and then can I take action to help create a resolution to maybe a problem, or to nurture myself more and take care of myself. Right, it's versus just being like I don't know something's happening in my body, I have no, I have no idea. And people like freak out or they freeze or they're looking for the answers outside of themselves. Yeah.
Speaker 3:And usually you know what to do and we call that body's wisdom and you just have a volume on the body's wisdom. So is it super low or do you need to turn it up a little bit?
Speaker 1:Wow, that's interesting. Yeah, by the way, like in this book here, Power Versus Force he talks about the truth and something that's not truth. He says that our bodies they know Even when we don't know, but the body knows. So he does this test where someone stands up and they extend the arm.
Speaker 3:The muscle testing. Yeah, so you know what that is.
Speaker 1:It's pretty crazy, like I've never heard of that before.
Speaker 3:What we call it is innate intelligence.
Speaker 1:Innate intelligence.
Speaker 3:So we have educated intelligence in our world right, and educated intelligence is understandable. It's information that's coming outside of us that we bring in right.
Speaker 3:We get it from the news. We get it from school. We get it from the news. We get it from school. We get it from books. We get it from talking heads like scientists, researchers, all that stuff. There's information outside of us that's coming to us. Then we get a choice of whether or not we absorb that information as truth. The filter for that information is our innate intelligence. So think of it in that way. So a person who is connected into their body can find themselves, has body's wisdom turned up when they make decisions in life. They have the innate intelligence filter for the information that's being fed to them. So then you can check in with yourself to be like is this true for me and my experience, versus somebody who can't find their body has a general sense of body anesthesia. This is very general, right, but they only look at analysis of information, right, and so that analysis is that educated intelligence. They're just like being fed information like, okay, that's true, without even really thinking about it or checking in. We all know people like that. Yes.
Speaker 3:And we all know that we've done things like that to some degree and as you continue to move into more growth and awareness and personal evolution, you will find yourself, if you're on that journey connecting more into your innate intelligence. It's 100% downloaded, it doesn't go away, but you get to choose how efficiently you use that.
Speaker 1:Can you like totally screw it up and you have to like rebuild it.
Speaker 3:No, not innate intelligence, now body's wisdom. You can turn up or down. You can totally ignore your body's wisdom. Right, it's like a gut instinct. Like, how many gut instincts have you? Followed and have regretted yes. Probably zero, yeah, right.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, it reminded me of a story Like last year, at the beginning, like we started working with this person and, um, I was like I needed to get things done, so I was like I don't have any other choice. I'm, I'm gonna, I'm choosing to work with this person and my wife, you know, she's like, I guess like and it was for the first time she met the person and she's like I don't really have a good feeling about this person and I'm like what are you talking about? I don't have time to like, you know, choose somebody else or, you know, look. So anyway, so we did my gosh. It took almost a year for me to like completely. Like she completely got validated what she said, because it turned out truth that this person was. It was a mistake for me, you know.
Speaker 3:So and we know these things and we know those moments when we're just like no, no, I'm just, I'm going to keep barreling ahead and whatever. And it's neither good nor bad. We just make choices, and choices come with consequences. Yes, yes. And consequences aren't inherently good or bad either. Like you make a choice and you have a consequence, and that's just what it is, and either we take the consequence and it's a good consequence. We're like okay, thank God, I did that.
Speaker 3:Or it's not and we can learn to grow from that and it becomes a learning point. And then the key is is like with the work on the table with Elan, is like we're helping discharge the energy in those moments where it's just like you know you made a mistake, but it's still like inside of you and you might ruminate on it and like fire you up, Right, Right.
Speaker 3:It's like yeah those things and so it's like, okay, how do we get into the system and allow for there just to be a free flow of energy? Let the body reorganize its tension patterns and take up that information, that data, get it up into the brain and then let that shit go sorry, can you do that?
Speaker 3:yeah, okay let that shit go. And then what happens is, as you look back on those situations, you'll have a no, you'll have no emotional charge around it, but you'll actually have created wisdom in your life's experiences. So you're like, oh yeah, that happened last time. I'll look for those signs and the next time it might pop up and I get to make a different choice.
Speaker 1:And yeah, that's the way it is thinking. Everything in life, sometimes we, uh, we make certain choices because we either overlook things or we're trying to rush things and totally, and then and, but as long as we, we learn, we take um that lesson and um yeah we're human we are so like.
Speaker 3:Remember everybody, we're human and we have ego and we're connected to spirit and so we have a choice. We can be spirit led and trust that also know our ego is what makes us get things done.
Speaker 1:You know there's a drive when it comes to the ego.
Speaker 3:It's like there are some people out there who get some stuff done and they have egos up the wazoo and it's like, thank goodness, we have both available to us. So it's like, how do you wield your power? But that ego, as frustrating as it can be, it allows for us to feel our human. It's just our humanness and because we're human, we have the need for variability. Right, if that line, if we were doing the ups and downs, but those ups and downs went away and we were just living on a straight line, oh my God, how boring would be life.
Speaker 3:We wouldn't really learn anything either. We are naturally developed to be adaptable and versatile, and we're here to experience all the things, everything from that number 20 to, whatever you know enlightenment is. That's the contract we came in with.
Speaker 3:If you believe in that, it's just like, okay, well, let's experience life, let's just not. How do you just not let it hurt so bad? You know, it's like how do we get a little more graceful with it yeah how do we know we can go into the chaos safely and come back home safely? Yeah because it never goes away no, you're right.
Speaker 1:Well, melissa, thank you so much for coming on. It was. I really enjoyed this conversation yeah I feel like we can like go on, and, on and on. How can people find you online, social media?
Speaker 3:Well, I'm so much better in person. So if you find me at Moon Healing Studio, I'm in downtown Auburn, but online I'm at mlmoonstudiocom, and then Instagram, mlmoon underscore studio. I'm on Facebook too Same idea, mlmoon__studio. I'm on Facebook, too, same idea, mlmoonstudio.
Speaker 1:But yeah, We'll make sure that we put the links on the.
Speaker 3:And I'm always doing community events, so if you need to plug in, get some self-care. I love doing education, hands-on skill building, all that Just supporting everybody's journey in whatever way.
