The Lost Episode (Recorded in 2024… Releasing It Anyway)

We found this one in the vault… and honestly, we’re not entirely sure it should’ve been released.

Recorded back in 2024, this episode is what happens when there’s no plan, no structure, and absolutely no supervision. Just the boys jumping back on the mics and seeing where it goes.

Safe to say… it goes everywhere.

In this episode:

•  Movies: real vs fake vs favourites (and what Hollywood absolutely ruins) 
•  Police and military moments that are almost accurate… then go completely off the rails 
•  Behind-the-scenes stories where “realism” gets politely ignored for the sake of a cool shot 🎬 
•  And a whole lot of conversations that probably explain why this sat on the shelf for so long 

From Black Hawk Down to End of Watch, Top Gun to Jump Street… nothing survives unscathed.

Also — quick disclaimer — this was recorded a while ago… so if it hasn’t aged well, that’s on 2024 us, not current us. We’ve grown. Probably. Maybe.

What it does show though… is the kind of loose, unfiltered chaos we’ve been leaning into lately 👀

Something new’s on the way.

For now — enjoy this one that almost never saw the light of day.

🎙️ Welcome back to The Impostors Podcast. 

Transcript

Burso 0:01

Oh, Petit. Great intro. Yeah, I think that's enough. No? Okay. Still go? Wow. Alright. Anyway, a little bit, a little bit different today. Gonna go with um oh geez, I'm still doing the music. Uh we're gonna go with uh movies. Real versus fake versus favorite versus I mean, we probably don't need to go to Jumanji.

Fitzy 0:29

There's no real plan here, is there?

Burso 0:30

Oh, there's there really isn't. The boys gave me another 45 minutes. This is post potter polisal four. And we're jumping back in the beauty of video. Oh actually is that berry flavour? Yeah, I'm running a lemon lime. Lemon lime savvy code imposter. 70% off. Well done, us. Oh, with me here today, Mark McConnell. Hello, everybody. Formal, former uh tactical unit and negotiator, and still wears his hat backwards as a 40 something year old. Gets away with it, gets away with it. Oh, he's good looking. Yeah, he is a good looking unit.

McConnell 1:11

I actually liked if you had have continued to misspeak and called me a formal tactical operator. That would have been nice.

Burso 1:17

You always he always had his collar up. I didn't wear cowboy boots, so maybe. Yeah, well, very sure. There was a couple of you lads that were a little bit yeah, it got a little bit loose. We might do that. We might do the podcast on negotiators at some point down the track. Wernes keen. Wern's keen to get on. Beautiful. Yeah, yeah. So we'll get him on. I've been trying to get angles on. Yep. Yeah, but he's not. He's like, no, it's not for me. Oh. Have you seen him of late? You see what he looks like?

McConnell 1:38

I saw, yeah, I saw him.

Burso 1:39

Has his facial hair.

McConnell 1:40

Yeah, it's good. Oh. Oh, the young man in the world.

Burso 1:43

Just in the background. Well done, mate. Make it all about you.

McConnell 1:46

That was Chris.

Fitzy 1:48

What is it, Chris? Crack. That was sound louder than the one I did right next to it. That was long distance bombing.

Burso 1:54

That's Harry on number two now. You have to share this on your TikTok, mate. Yep. Just go live on your TikTok. Oh, you're banned still? Yeah. Mate, you put any of our stuff on, we're copyright banning you again. You're sitting in the northern quarter. We uh and we've got uh just fit here. Hello, welcome, welcome back. Oh god, I'm gonna have to get better at the button.

Fitzy 2:16

I like that applause thing. It's the only time I get applause.

Burso 2:18

Do you yeah? Yeah. It's the only time we get laughs. Already Harry's like, what are you guys laughing at? We have sound effects, Harry. All right. I got Harry on before. I was like, hey mate, press the buttons, and he just topped, he just went. That's a lot, I'm gonna have to say. But basically he pressed all of them, and I was like, right, so you've got no idea what any of them just did. Oh, they're taking forever to stop too. Look at this. All right, cool. We're back in. Beautiful. Oh, I'm still Bluetooth on too, so hopefully no one rings me in in the meantime.

Fitzy 2:51

Well, they can be on too.

Burso 2:53

Or yeah, whoever it is, we're answering.

Fitzy 2:54

We'll see what movies they're into.

Burso 2:56

Yeah, very true. So, movies, who wants to start with what do you want to go with?

McConnell 3:02

I'm gonna get out there early, mate. I I'd probably stop watching movies around about 2002 because I don't know why, but I really like like the 90s stuff. Yeah.

Burso 3:11

And I guess maybe it's right, so you are gonna go with movies. I thought you were gonna go, I don't watch movies anymore. I was like, this is gonna be a hard podcast.

McConnell 3:18

No, it's it's I I still get out a little bit to Sam, but yeah, I like the the 90s stuff. And again, maybe it's just that midlife crisis kind of stuff, but you know, let's talk back to the future, let's talk, let's talk top gun, let's talk old war movies, let's talk, let's talk all of that. Yes, because that's where I'm at.

Burso 3:32

Right. So run me through your uh your top like emergency services and veterans movies from the 90s. So diehard's 100% one.

McConnell 3:41

Yeah, so so diehard's cool.

Burso 3:44

It's definitely the way the policing is. What are you laughing at, Fritz?

Fitzy 3:48

Hey, I did my tour of LA and like I went to Nakatomi Towers.

Burso 3:53

That Christmas special. I love that it's a Christmas movie now.

Fitzy 3:56

Yeah, yeah. It's like it's so Bruce Willis came out and said it is not a Christmas movie. Did he?

Burso 4:01

Was that before or after Parkinson's?

Fitzy 4:04

Well, he hasn't spoken after, has he?

Burso 4:07

That's that's a thing because he blasphemed.

McConnell 4:08

Yeah, quick um hit us hit a hit a sound effect, mate. Oh, cool. Um yeah, but like and when we talk about, you know, don't put that on when I'm talking. But you know, you you talk about cop movies and and stuff like that, and you know, some of them I don't mind. Um actually took young Harry to go see Bad Boys, which is cool. Which one? Uh the latest one. Oh, yeah. Yeah, but it's funny, man. Like, I still sit there maybe with the old copper kind of thing, and they're letting rounds go left right. So there's body count. Is that not how it is? And and I'm just like, man, that's gotta look like that's a lot of use of force forms, you know what I'm saying? Like the um end of watch, did you watch that?

Burso 4:49

No, really, it's good, you're gonna have to get around it. Yeah, it's it's like it's interesting because they like they they actually do cop stuff, but there's like a bit of LSC in there. There's um there's a guy who goes, No, the the job doesn't have your back and rah-r this sort of like that guy, and he's like, nah, this is bullshit. He goes, Don't go to these jobs, it's rubbish and this and that. That's he's amusing. Then you've got like the real gung-ho, everything's the biggest crime in the world thing that they're flying to and stuff, and then um, but then they go behind it, it's like them taking the piss out of you know, they've found like one, there's a gold AK that they take off these Mexicans at one point, and they're all like, eh, get mad photos and stuff with it, and then um yeah, and then they're doing paperwork, and they're like, oh, and then two hours of dudes sitting at their computer going yelling at me, I've got to put this brief together. Yeah, yeah, it's classic. But then they're like, they're riding, and then like that you see them look around. There's one part where um he he fights old mate, he goes in, he sees this look this gangbanger, and he's like, Righto, mate, you're under arrest. He's like, No, not doing it. He goes, Righto, he goes, if you fight me, he goes, Right, I'll fight. And he goes, If you if you win, I'll put the cuffs on myself. And then all mate's like, alright. Like, wait, lock the door, lock the door. They go out, they're like, turn the cameras off, turn the cameras off. And they're like, and then they they blew, and old mate wins, and he um an old mate put the cuffs on. I was just like, respect. But it's just funny because I was like, I betcha there's cops out there that are that have done. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, back in the day it was probably standard. It was like, yeah, well, you are fighting regardless.

McConnell 6:15

Yeah, and yeah, I'm just thinking of stories that I can I can't tell, but yeah, the the the cops stuff, and I get like they've they've got to make it exciting and yeah, and stuff like that. So it's it's it's always interesting to watch them. But you know, for for me, 90s movies, I guess. Um Heartbreak Ridge, you remember that with Clint Eastwood? That was that was really, really cool. And you know, even when we're laughing about Die Hard, it's like I I just wish I had had that opportunity to hit someone with a surfboard or something.

Burso 6:46

I thought you were gonna say to live drunk like a drunk on your own in a caravan on the beach. Yeah, I mean not a bad gig.

McConnell 6:52

Yeah, I just wanted to wear the singlet. Yeah, yeah.

Burso 6:55

Like that's his that's his uniform the whole time, it's amazing. Yeah, so quick. I love that he's like he's his his life outside of outside of work is just such a train wreck. Yep, but he's so good at his job, yeah, which is funny because that's not entirely untrue. I've I've met some people that just struggle with life but are just prodigies when they come to actual investigation and stuff like that. Yeah, so that's not the rest of it. Doesn't he drive a car in like four? Doesn't he drive a car up a ramp into a chopper or something?

McConnell 7:26

Yeah, and I'm I'm sure we've we've all thought that when we're driving like, can I make it? And the answer's usually always no.

Burso 7:34

And you never get a chopper anyway, so it's like you're not really gonna attack it with a car.

McConnell 7:38

I I don't want to be overly topical at the moment, but uh some people think they can fly choppers in uh Queensland. Oh miss it. You didn't see the news.

Burso 7:46

No.

McConnell 7:46

Oh blow actually I shouldn't be laughing. Maybe we'll enter that one out.

Burso 7:49

No, no, no. Anyway, shall we move on?

McConnell 7:51

Uh dude in Cairns who ex New Zealand come to Australia, part of the ground crew at a helicopter company.

Fitzy 7:58

Oh, he was a ground crew, then was he?

McConnell 7:59

Yeah, so he was a ground crew guy, just his odd job just took it for a flight. Yeah, as his farewell, he's like, well, I'm I'm pretty sure I could fly. I've got I've got the mentality of a pilot. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Burso 8:10

I've watched Maverick and the original Top Gun.

McConnell 8:12

Yeah, and took off and crashed it on a hotel.

Burso 8:14

Oh no, yeah, yeah. And um one one of the boys that uh I used to work with, he went to Dubai. Yep, and it's a it's a lot. The the air traffic rules aren't amazing over there, and then they can't like some sultan or something, and he's like, Hey, we're flying. And he's like, You don't have a license. And he's like, I pay you to do this, and he's like, You reckon's he got in the back? He goes, Old mate had done maybe two lessons, and he was he was not he was under the weather with with from something, and he just sat in the back and he was we got to the hover and he's like, I'm I'm literally dying. Literally dying. The thing went all over the place, and then the because he actually had the pilot with him, and the pilot's like taking you over. He's like, mm-mm, you aren't you're not flying this, I'm flying it. Then they ended up putting it down, and then he left because he's under contract. So I don't think he's allowed back in Dubai now, but he left, went on a plane, just left. Because he knew he wasn't, he's like, I'm gonna die here. Yes, and I can't and he would have gone to jail because he was breaching contract or something like that. So he's like, I see, I'm out. So you had to fly, you had to fly out and hope he got there before his um the boss worked it out. But yeah, loose, loose over there. No good, no good.

McConnell 9:18

What about you, my ma'am? What would what do you do that you are what you go to?

Burso 9:22

The um well the funny thing is um like now that I've done a little bit of behind the scenes stuff, so I was in a um I think called clickbait, and we had to go there and they were like, right, how they're like because it gets around pretty quick when you're on when you're on a set, they're like, Oh, that guy's actually been in the job um when I'm doing it. And then they're like, How would you do this? And I was like, All right, we've got a section of 12 people or whatever. And then so they wanted to open the back of a roller door and the the guy's got a knife or something in there, he was supposed to have it, and um it turns out he's not in there, but they were like, How would you do this? I was like, Well, we've all got long arms. I'm like, So, why would I go towards the guy with a knife? And they're like, Oh, I see where you're coming from. And then I was like, So I'd have a dude here behind cover, there'd be a dude over here, and he goes, Oh, I want him like that. No, that's crossfire. I'm like, So then they're you're literally shooting at each other. He's like, Oh, okay. Um, and I was like, right, he goes, Well, you show me how you do it. So we did it, and he was fucking bored out of his brain. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So bored. Everybody's out of frame where they were. So I'm like, mate, these things are easy doing a hundred and like exactly where you're aiming at. It's not even a not even a drama. And then he's like, Oh, I want somebody to jump up and then open the roller door. I'm like, Well, see when he's full body exposed to a roller door with a dude waiting in ambush, and he's like, I see what you're saying. I'm like, Yeah, I said, No, no, this is I said, but mate, you are the director, so whatever you want to do, we will do. Yeah, like I mean, I'll just keep my finger off the trigger and stand wherever it is you want. Yeah, I'm like, that'll be the realism that you get. But um, so in the end, it's like he showed us the frame, he goes, You have from here to here. He's like, try and be as as tactical as you can between this mark and this mark, and we're like, Alright, cool, done. And then so we run out, and then he just wants us to stack up on the on either side of this door. And then Old Mate jumps in the middle, gets up on the thing, and just pulls it up himself, and then gets his uh long arm from behind him, pulls it around in front, gets the torch up, so it's real dramatic and stuff that you can see it, and he's like, clear. I was like, Man, the and the dude that they got up there was a stunty, so he was the only one out of the ten of us there that had never operated a firearm before. So it was like it was terrible. And then we had to so we we turned up, we got out of this van, so and the van had it was brand new Teflon floor and stuff, and there's like 12 of us in the back, and the the stunty's driving it, he's driving like he thinks cops drive to jobs, unbeknownst to the fact that zero people are restrained in the back. There are 12 dudes who aren't getting paid the stuntment wage. Stumping wage is on like 1200 bucks a day. We're on 280 at best, and we had to eat last, like it was ridiculous. But um, so we're there, he comes in, flies in, they want to do that. You know how you always see the cops always rock up and they stop fast enough and the car rocks just to prove that they came in fast. Yeah, so he's doing that, and we're like now all crumped up because there's 12 of us in the back, and he's slamming on the brakes just for the fear, and all you can hear is oh but still we get out of the van quicker than him, and he's in the driver's seat. So we like get out, one of the boys gets out of the front, um, like the passenger seat, gets out, comes around because he can't get in front of Old Mate, because he's the special dude, and he's the only one not wearing a helmet. They told us to all be clean shaven and we're wearing bower gloves, yeah. So that was irrelevant, which was stupid, and then we're all in ballast, clean shaven, and um like and we're in a helmet. Old mate gets out, no baller, it's around his like it's around his neck because he wants his face seen, because he's a he's an actual actor. We're all trying to hide our faces because we didn't want to get seen for various reasons. Yes. Um, and then it was so and he's got a beard. So like the one guy that you can see is like and his chin straps undone, and we're and we just oh mate.

McConnell 13:08

It's a lot of push-ups if you do that on floor.

Burso 13:10

Exactly. But it's like he's gone out and he's like he's trying to look hard, and you're like, mate, that's not like you're not cooler by being different than everyone else. Like that's not how it works.

McConnell 13:20

But it's it's funny, mate, with the like the expert opinions and stuff. Like I'm gonna go back right to the the DVD days. Oh yeah. So I got Top Gun, the DVD, and it had all the extras and it had everything like that.

Burso 13:33

25th anniversary?

McConnell 13:34

Yes, yeah, with the gold stuff. Yep.

Burso 13:36

The on there there is the 25th anniversary? No. Oh, you I've got I've got the DVD too.

McConnell 13:43

So what one of the audio commentaries is from the expert, the Navy expert that advised on this on the movie. And you've you've never heard a more disappointed dude. Because he's like, he's doing that scene towards the end where it's like, you know, I'm too close to missiles, I'm switching a gun. Yeah. And the guy's like, look, uh I tried to tell him that even at this range, even if he shoots him down, the debris's gonna take out that. And he was so sad. And the old inverted scene where he's he's above him, yeah, yeah.

Burso 14:16

They give each other a thing. Oh, that's iconic.

McConnell 14:19

Yeah, but then he's talking about like the aerodynamics, and he's like, if this was real, uh, you know, the wind forces and the gust and stuff would just suck the two aircraft into each other. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Fitzy 14:28

Yeah, he would have loved the new one then. Yeah, they do a corkscrew to towards the ground, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Burso 14:34

Oh, and they just pull out, no big deal. The um, yeah, but that uh it's funny though, because and that's where I had to you gotta let go of how realism works versus what looks good on TV, yeah. And you're like, because that is hilarious, that part, you know, like when they they take a Polaroid, but that's 80s, man. Like that is 100% the 80s, it's so good. And I can I could understand that Old Mate, who's an actual pilot, yeah, would be livid with that. But I bet you he looks back at it now and he goes, that is an iconic scene.

McConnell 15:04

Oh, yeah, full of shit, but it's iconic, yeah, and it's it's funny with that sort of stuff.

Burso 15:09

Yeah, so it's it's interesting with the director who comes across and he asks you to try and make it as real as possible, and you can value add if you're doing it by you walk the way that you would walk, or you like your pine corners and stuff, like you do that sort of stuff. Um, like that stuff you can still bring into it because that's stuff they won't direct you to do. They're just like, Oh, we had this one guy, he comes up, and we were we were normal coppers at this one, and um, there's like a shot rings out, right? And he's like, he goes, he goes, Oh, I want you to like just look frantic, like, oh, where's that come from? Whatever else it is. I was like, no, mate. I was like, because we're supposed to be protecting some high profile person as well. Yeah, and he goes, Oh, you guys, you know, just you know, react like you really would. I'm like, well, do you want me to react like I really would, or do you would you want me to act frantic? Like, what do you want me to do? Yeah, and he's like, Oh, well, how how would you act? I'm like, well, mate, I I turned to where the sound came from. A old mate needs to get out of the way. You've like, we're literally protecting our mate, he's the most important thing. We're gonna take him to ground and take him away or whatever. I said, and I'm not gonna sit there and frantically look whatever, I'm hitting the ground to try and work out where it's come from and return fire.

McConnell 16:10

Yep.

Burso 16:10

And it's like, oh, well, it'll look better on camera. I was like, cool, no dramas, but but like your issue is react like I would, or tell me what you want me to do. Like they're two different things.

McConnell 16:21

It's funny with that sort of stuff makes I c I can't remember who it was, but it was an Australian actor going to do a Hollywood movie and that sort of thing. And they're like, Yep, we want an Australian. It's like, sweet, I'm an Australian. And they're like, Yeah, but that's not really the right Australian accent that we're gonna. That's how I speak, man. So yeah, it's it's sort of interesting with that sort of stuff.

Burso 16:39

Yeah, they um the so this movie that um I'm looking doing at the moment, they um they wanted me when I did an audition, they wanted me to have an American accent. But it was like a what'd that say, it's like a midwestern one. Yeah. So I looked it up, it's like Fargo. And then I reread it again and it it didn't sound it sounded a little bit different to how it was. It was just like like not entirely they didn't want Texas draw, I don't think, is what they they just didn't want Texas, I think, is what they were doing. And that's the literally taking the piece is like the only accents I can do. So it's like you can't it's really hard to do a slight accent.

McConnell 17:14

Yeah, yeah.

Burso 17:14

You can either like even with Australian. How'd you go with it? I didn't get that role, so there's your heads up.

McConnell 17:21

I'll send you up to do. Yeah, I was I was there waiting for it.

Burso 17:24

But um, no, but I um it was funny because I did that, I sent it off, and um, but it came back, they were like, Oh, we want you to do um a different part. So I was supposed to be like DS or directing staff or whatever you want to call it on a on a course, um which I was keen on because that was like oh dudes, um 35 to 45. I was like, ah cool, in my wheelhouse, I'm there, no dramas. And then they were like, and the candidates are all 20 to you know, 20 to 30. Now they're like, hey, they um they actually really liked you and they want you to be one of the candidates now. I was like, oh, it's a completely different gig. Because one of them I'm standing there crossed armed just yelling at people. Now I'm one of the dudes getting yelled at. They're like, Oh, can you swim? And I was like, Oh, god, here we go. I was like, So, like, we're doing like an overnighter in Bright and stuff like that. So, I'll have to hit you up and see if you want to come along. Um, yeah, but we can't they're like, Oh, you need to be fit. And I was like, Well, that's not me. Um, but so it sounds like we're gonna be doing running, obstacle courses. They're like, Oh, there'll be a bunch of chin-ups and stuff. So we're obviously just gonna be dudes doing chin-ups on that. We're gonna be sex symbols, realistically.

McConnell 18:30

Isn't it just supposed to be like a montage?

Burso 18:32

Exactly, like Rocky.

McConnell 18:34

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Six months of training in two and a half minutes.

Burso 18:38

Yeah, but I think there's gonna be a bunch of us standing there, and we're like, you know, for the call, all that sort of stuff, just yelling that sort of stuff out, you know, like when you're a believer back in the day. Yeah, yeah, I remember those stuff. Yeah, so just yeah, we'll we'll channel that and we'll get around it. Uh we'll see if we can get just fitzy there as well.

Fitzy 18:52

So you what I don't reckon. What what uh what movies? Now you've you've sort of no no no what what uh movies do you rate up there though as your favourite movies? Oh yeah, yeah, I forgot that's what we're doing. You started on that, but then you went back into your acting career, which is pretty vast. I have been to Living Space, remember that. Amazing movie, but um Backpacker number one and Barbecue Guy number two, I think it was.

Burso 19:18

Um same movie, two roles. Um it was it was taxing.

Fitzy 19:22

Yep. Favourite cop movie?

Burso 19:25

Blackhawk Down. I was a mad fan for.

McConnell 19:28

I was pretty is it a cop movie?

Burso 19:30

Uh that's are you taking a piss you don't know what Blackhawk Down is?

Fitzy 19:32

A cop movie. Oh, yeah, so that's that's your that's your warry movie. Yep, yep.

Burso 19:37

Yeah, um, I don't know, mate. I love I actually really love Jump Street with Channing Tatum. Oh it to me, it is the most realistic movie I've seen compared to my my career versus all these other ones. Mate, the part where they chase people on the bikes, like they're riding on the bikes, and they're like, this isn't what we signed up for. Mate, you don't need to I was like, I was like, that is that is when I got to Vic Pole. I was like, that's what I'm doing.

McConnell 20:01

Mate, you don't need to cover up. He he's a dream boat, all right? I get it.

Burso 20:04

Yeah, but I was what's it what Jonah? I was I was Jonah. But mate, the the part where they're literally chasing those dudes and then they see bikeys and they're like, Yeah, let's get them. I'm like, that this is literally me. And then you go over there and they arrest some dude, and then they've got to do the meander rights. I couldn't even tell you what it is now. Yeah, yeah. I was like, I knew you had like you don't have to say or do anything, but I was like from there, I'm just like, you do and then I and then I'd lose it because I'd think of that movie, and I'm like, you you do have the right to be an attorney. Yeah, that's all I could think of. I was like, I'm so upset now that body warm cameras came. I remember being at Cert, and then because obviously we never used to give anyone caution rights, we didn't want to talk to anyone because you had enough to do a statement then. But um we had um we I arrest this dude and then we're standing there, and then one of the people came past, like, Oh, have you read him his rights yet? And I'm like, I'm like, nah, but he hasn't said anything like he's not talking. I'm like, we're not talking to him, we haven't asked him anything, it's good to go. Like when the detective's getting you, they'll do it. And he goes, No, no, no, just do it now in case. I'm like, oh and everyone's looking around, and then I got out this brand new blue card. Did you? I was like, Oh, thank god I have this with me. But because of the fold, it had been folded for like four years because that was the last time I I gave anyone their caution and rights, but um, it was folded and it's there's like a line missing, and now I'm just like, it's gotta be something. What is it again? Something about the human rights. I just like mumbled it.

McConnell 21:28

The best ones with those blue cards is obviously you've got caution and rights on one side, but when people would get nervous, yeah, and it's like they'd put someone under arrest and they'd be like, I tend to interview you today, you're arrested, and they're like, Oh no, it's the wrong side. Oh god.

Burso 21:44

It's not like it's not even that hard, but you know, you've like you've probably chased somebody, you've you've climbed a couple of fences, you've done whatever, you've just arrested some partner, and now you're like, Oh, I've got a rest emerat, gotcha. Okay, deep breath, and blue cart's gone. Excellent. Well now. Or just mate, don't say anything because the cops will get you. That's pretty much where I'd be going with it. But mate, you say anything, it's probably gonna come up in court. That's your heads up. Don't I wouldn't say anything if I was you?

McConnell 22:11

You know how you know how sometimes you go through some stuff and you think that everyone goes through it? Yep. Yeah, this isn't one of the stuff. This is just you, bro. You know, you're under arrest for theft, you're not obliged to say or do anything. Anything you do say or do may be used in evidence. Do you understand that? So there you go. There you go.

Burso 22:27

Well, one of us was a better cop than the other one. Look, to be fair, I never used to do brief, so I didn't need to worry about that.

McConnell 22:33

Yeah.

unknown 22:34

No.

McConnell 22:34

Let's try and stay away from that. What about you, Gitzy?

Fitzy 22:39

Cool movies wise. So probably you've already touched on my favourite um cop movies, the uh one that you said before. End of watch. Jump straight.

Burso 22:48

Oh.

Fitzy 22:48

Jump straight. End of watch. I really love that one.

Burso 22:51

It's it's great. It's a great movie.

Fitzy 22:52

Good movie. Yep. And it's shot from you know, partly body worn. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Partly, you know, it's all over the place. But yeah, I like that one. Um I love the war movies. I'm big on the war movies.

Burso 23:04

But so end of watch, right? I can't believe End Watch. You're gonna love it. Go watch it, it's sick.

McConnell 23:09

Um I'll I'll tell I'll tell you why I struggle a little bit with cop movies, right? And you can tell me why this one isn't the same. Yep. It's because pretty much every cop movie I see, there's a guy who's corrupt and he's doing drugs with the crooks, and then there's a guy who is on the case and it turns out he's the actual murderer, and like it's always weird shit like that. Like it's never just that day-to-day I mean, day-to-day stuff's probably not gonna get a lot of fucking hits on YouTube or whatever. But yeah, it's it's always that real out there kind of stuff, and I'm like, so the end of watching it does have some out there stuff, it has to to be a media.

Fitzy 23:46

Yeah, exactly. But at the same time, not like that.

Burso 23:49

Yeah, no, but like, I mean the part where it gets real loose, but that but that could happen. Cartels are pretty extreme.

Fitzy 23:57

Okay.

McConnell 23:59

I don't know. Like, I mean if I was dealing with a cartel, yeah, it might get a little bit weird. Like I can understand that.

Burso 24:04

Yeah, yeah. But it but it's but it's like it from where it comes from, it's like a it's a legitimate thing.

Fitzy 24:09

And then yeah, it's like when you've set in LA, so yeah, yeah.

Burso 24:12

Like just I mean, it's just north of the border. But um, yeah, and if like two cops upset a cartel, you're like, well Yeah, they there's three cops. They're not like they're not yet they're not SWAT cops, they're not. Um they're just two dudes on the van, and it's funny because they're like they're rolling together, and and like and a lot of it is just them talking shit in the van, which is so realistic. Yeah, yeah. Like and they're they're like giving each other grief, and then they're like saying, you know, like um one of them's like a bit of a playboy and stuff like that, and the other one's a dude who's been married like since day dot or whatever it is, and the other guy's always teasing him, going, mate, you need to settle down, get a proper wife, and this and that. I was like, Oh, you're right over, etc. etc. And then you know, like so there's like there's there's parts in between the hectic parts where they're just talking smack or they're doing paperwork, or like there's a part when the boss comes in and they're looking at this um gold AK, which is what leads to the other stuff, but um they they're like talking, the boss walks in and he's like, he goes, Is is it weird, is it weird that I get it harder when he comes in? Like he's uh I love him, I love him. What's okay here? Because the boss the boss comes in, they see that, and they're like, Oh, can I see that, mate? And like it's like an inspector or super or whatever. And he picks it up, he goes, Oh, great job today, boys. You guys, you guys killed it. He goes, So so proud of you, I was bro, this and that. He's like, Oh, he goes, Is it is it gay if I you know, like if what about if I just blow him? Like, is that yeah, like he's like he's such a cool guy. Like, do we do that? And the other guy's like, Man, I really worry about you sometimes. It's like it's just dumb shit that we would say, you know, like well you're like, I would never say that. But um, yeah, like it's great, like that, and then but it's also um yeah, it's really sad when certain things happen, it's exciting when other things happen. It's like, but there's like there's stuff, but then there's family life stuff, and then like it's it's it's really good.

McConnell 25:49

I'll I'll tell you one TV show that I've seen. It's the only you know how whenever we get behind what do they call them? The the the ones that they have on T RBTs and yeah, it's like no, I'm never watching that. I don't know if you've ever seen it in the States, it's a show I think it was called PD Live. Have you ever seen it or heard about it?

Burso 26:07

It's a cartoon.

McConnell 26:08

No, no, it was legit, right? But it was almost like a sports sort of panel kind of setup, and they had live cameras all over the country, so they'd be like, All right, now we're gonna cross to Houston where Officer Burson is about to execute a warrant. Oh really? Yeah, so they cross to Houston and then they're doing whatever, and they're like, All right, that seems to be going alright, and they go to Memphis, yeah, and then all of a sudden they're like, we need to get back to Houston right now. And Burston's like legging it up. Like it was it was actually really, really entertaining because you literally didn't know what was gonna happen.

Burso 26:39

But was that it's so isn't like cops, but so it's like was it real?

McConnell 26:43

Yeah, yeah, yeah, 100% real. So that's amazing. It was really weird. Like I'm sure it's called PD Live. So yeah, like some of them, you know, you turn across and it's literally just a traffic intercept, yeah. Nothing happens, but then all of a sudden it just got something to go pear-shaped somewhere in the country and they cross to that.

Burso 26:56

You used to love cops at show cops, it was so good.

McConnell 26:59

How many, how many careers do you reckon you'd have had to have to make one episode of cops?

unknown 27:03

Yeah.

Burso 27:04

But I in Australia, yeah. Um, yeah, like cops in America too. Like it's funny because you join up because you say cops, you're like, Yeah, those guys are staunch and they're doing this, doing that, and then you join up, you're like, oh yeah, it's not idea.

McConnell 27:16

I I don't know if we covered off on it in the first one, mate. And for the people that don't know, but for people in my vintage, when we joined the police, when you start to get a little bit jaded, that the big saying we had was where the fuck is my jet ski?

Burso 27:28

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

McConnell 27:30

All the ads and the recruitment ones, you got dudes on jet skis like buck and boom. You're like, man, I did 15 years and I didn't get to ride one jet ski, like that ain't cool.

Burso 27:40

Oh, you was running um the four-wheel motorbikes for a bit.

McConnell 27:45

Yeah, they had the little beach.

Burso 27:47

Yeah, real they real real push that too. And then when the boys got on the court, it was like three people did it.

McConnell 27:51

Yeah. Um, I'll ask you a question. Go on. What is what's either the most common or the most weirdest thing someone has seen in a movie and then asked you about and thought, hey, this is this is real. Like, is this how it's like? Like for me, as an ex-negotiator, obviously the uh Samuel L. Jackson negotiator kind of stuff. So that comes up a fair bit with with the old mate Spacey, you know. The old is it true that you know you can't say no to him? Like you know, that scene is like, don't say no, don't say no, yeah, and all that sort of stuff.

Burso 28:25

So is there anything that well that's that's interesting because I I wonder if I wonder if it is different over there or if everyone's running the same sort of scenario. Um because I mean we were like, no, you say no to people. Yeah, 100%. And they're like, um damn it.

McConnell 28:39

Alright, so just for just for the listeners, when I when I was first on this podcast, I said it 100% probably about a thousand times. So I'm I'm trying, I'm trying to get it out of my vocab. So yeah, if you hear me say 100%, feel free to take a shot and uh you should be drunk within three minutes.

Burso 28:54

McDonnell drinking games, yeah. Um mate, we had we had this lunch up where old mate's um he was up on a roof when I got there as like attorney up as a negotiator. This bike's up on a roof, and he had he had pillows, he had smokes, he had food, he had a tuna.

Fitzy 29:13

I was like, What do you do in that situation?

Burso 29:15

Do you put the place on fire or how do you get him off? But they gave they gave it to him because they didn't want to say no to anything. They're like, Oh, he was cold. I'm like, well, he would have come down then, yeah, yeah.

McConnell 29:24

He was cold.

Burso 29:25

They're like, he was hungry. I'm like, yeah. So get the food and he comes down, he can eat. They're like, he was thirsty, it's human rights. I'm like, yeah, he can have it if he comes down. Yeah, yeah. It's like I'm like, why would that dude even talk to me now? He's literally living better up there than he was in the house. But yeah, so no, no's an actual thing that comes out of it. Um, I think the pit maneuver is probably something that you get a fair bit. Yep. Because, you know, I'm remember when channel seven used to follow the cars here? They um there was like a brief window of about six months where channel seven was actually live streaming for shoes. Oh, okay. Oh, it was amazing. I remember being because we were in the car, we'd watch. We'd be like, hey, this dude's and you're like, hey boss, this guy's going full crazy. We need to actually do something about it. And they're like, oh and but they'd be the looking at the comments and they'd be like, oh, cops need to call this away because it's too dangerous. And you'd see him go, Oh, I don't want to make a call now. And then the other ones would be like, someone needs to do something, and it's like it's getting to like 80%. And this will, I mean, it wouldn't surprise me if that's how a lot of decisions are made nowadays. It's like, what's the ratio on do something to not do something? That'd be amazing if you your actual boss for the day was Facebook, yeah, just having a vote if it's like it's funny, mate.

McConnell 30:33

Like, even with that that pit maneuver, like I was never in the situation where I had to do it, but let's say it was absolutely situation critical, I had to do it, literally would have been just trying to copy cops. I'm pretty sure I've got this on the TV. Like, no, my like I'd miss and end up in the flying off into it. Yeah, it'd be so funny watching just a just a random car coming from the side and just miss and go on, just seeing a cop cars over there.

Fitzy 31:01

They do that on the cop movies anyway. Generally the car goes up on the side and ends in you always hit water things, doesn't matter.

Burso 31:06

Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, those water things on the freeway everywhere all the time. I've never seen one in real life. I wonder if that's just an American thing. It's uh that's funny.

Fitzy 31:14

The um I can't speak to cop movies, but you said something before that something that comes up with with things that you've been involved in. Yeah. And I know that you and me went to the movies a while ago, Burso, and watched that movie uh Danger Close.

Burso 31:26

Oh yeah.

Fitzy 31:27

Hilarious, hilarious. And the main thing that's like funny about it is and it's a great movie, but they take a lot of army sayings. Just use them at work kind of in context, but not how it's said. And I know that no one else was laughing in the scenery except for man Burst and we lost it, man. We were laughing because they just kept saying them, not quite right.

Burso 31:52

And yeah, hey mate, how's your day been? Not here to fuck spiders, mate. Sorry, what?

Fitzy 31:59

I think that's that's probably even more too much in context. That almost works. It was it was sort of saying that they kind of they'd been all professional in the middle of a briefing, they're still doing a briefing profession in Manita B, I'm not here to fuck spiders. Yeah. Let's go pull some socks up caterpillars. Yeah, it just it just didn't quite make sense. And it's classic, man. But they they kept they kept throwing them in there, all of them. I reckon I heard all of the one-liners throw out my own. You reckon they just had like a cheat sheet or something.

McConnell 32:28

They had a cheat sheet.

Fitzy 32:29

I don't think they knew what any of them meant. Went, that's probably a good spot too.

Burso 32:32

I reckon that in there. I reckon some of the actors there were playing like line bingo, and they were just trying to see how many, yeah, how many of it could get in.

Fitzy 32:39

Yes, got it in there. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Burso 32:41

Oh god, that was great. Because it it's tra it's Travis Field.

Fitzy 32:45

It's one of my favourite movies simply for those comments.

Burso 32:47

Okay, it's it's um it's an Aussie movie. Travis Field was like one of 10, yeah. Yeah, got a long 10. Yeah, but um, and and he's he's doing his his best job at being. It's funny because was he an officer? So this is where I sort of got. Hang on, who is it?

Fitzy 33:01

The guy that's in um Ragnar.

Burso 33:03

Yeah, Ragnarok is an officer. Yeah, so he's like yeah, but he's but the way he talks is very enlisted scum. Yep. You know, like so he'd he'd like he'd be an officer, and you're like, well, officers aren't doing what he's doing. No offense to anyone who's been commissioned.

Fitzy 33:16

Yeah, yeah, he's he's a he's a hardcore officer. Member, he's from uh the SAS, and then he's true with the infantry scum. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So he's disgusted with them. It's gold.

Burso 33:28

And treats them all like shit. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And just using the sayings at the wrong time. At the wrong time. That's so and even and even like the the the way it's sort of said, like the emphasis is like on the wrong words, is like, I'm not here to spiders. It's just like what it's so good. And I could just I just reckon there's a dude there, there's a military advisor just doing the inverted.

Fitzy 33:55

They've obviously done their homework and they've really picked up on a whole heap of so many.

Burso 34:00

Like, I love that they've tried to include a bunch of stuff, but it's just it's so funny.

McConnell 34:04

Just not quite right, but it's it's like what when you were talking about the officer and not doing officer shit. Yeah, but you see that in cop movies all the time, where it's like, you know, the 62-year-old dude who's investigating and he's like, We're gonna get this son of a bitch. Yeah, and then all and then all of a sudden he's putting on fucking body armor, yeah, and he's like, Follow me through the door, boys. And you're like, wait, what?

Burso 34:22

Have you have you um have you seen the rookie?

McConnell 34:24

I've seen the ads.

Burso 34:25

It's a it's I actually it kills me because old mate's 42, right? So we're literally the same age. I could go back. Whether they'd have me or not, it's another question, but I'm like, I could go back and do it. Like, you know, Nolan's doing it on the show, yeah. But he's been in for uh where I'm up to now, it's probably been in for about 12 months, right? He's had a shootout with the cartelers, he's probably shot a good 12 people, yeah. And they're like that this and he's always the first into a room, yeah, yeah. He's always he's always negotiating with the people because he's like, Oh, he's older, so he's you know, he's more mature and he's doing really well. He's always making everything a teachable moment, which is hilarious. Um, like because he does it at like inappro inappropriate times to make it a teachable moment, and but people bring it up, they're like, Is this really the time you want to go? He goes, I think this is the best time to be going with it. Yeah, yeah, like I have your undivided attention. But he's a mad like he's a mad fighter as well, like but he's not really, yeah.

McConnell 35:20

And my mom, like apologies, my mind's just bouncing around here.

Burso 35:24

But I don't know if you remember because you're on a Pepsi now instead of a savvy, yeah.

McConnell 35:27

I know. But do you remember a show called Jag? Oh yes. So my old man loves Jag. Yeah, right, and that motherfucker would be like in a courtroom prosecuting a prosecuting a case.

Burso 35:37

Isn't that Harman Rab? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

McConnell 35:39

Yeah, and it's like, you're on a I need to take an adjurement. And they're like, Alright, yeah, cool, no worries. It's like, why? Because I gotta go fly an F-14 cat. And then the next scene he's like, getting thrown off a carrier and stuff.

Burso 35:53

You see his pager come up, he's like, he's trying to defend someone from a from a murder or something that's happened overseas.

McConnell 35:59

If my old man listened to this podcast, he will be horrified. But I'm sorry, I'm sorry, Daddy, I was just it's just not overly realistic.

Burso 36:05

Yeah, but uh, but his offsiders too were always smoking hot. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But also, it was funny too, because this is a while ago, and and the female characters in there are all really in like they're in great shape, they're smoking hot, and they're but their uniform fits, which is which is different from most uniforms for starters, but um, like they're it's actually tailored to a female, but is always like she kicks ass. Like every everyone that she's had, like they're they they all fight better than him. Yes, yeah, like he he flies planes, that's his that's his jam, but he's always saved by some chick on the ground who's kicking ass. And I'm like, why don't we have those strong characters anymore?

McConnell 36:43

I'm just imagining him in like a nightclub meeting a girl and like you know, he's like, Oh, I'm a lawyer. Oh, are you really I'm also a fighter pilot?

Burso 36:50

Like I'm a lawyer by day, but this pager goes off. Uh yeah, I'm in the Cold War again, don't you worry about me.

McConnell 36:55

And man, it's it's funny when you talk about like people what they think is real. I remember working the watch house out of Werby, I'm doing my thing. I can't, it was it was something minor, right? Minor crime. Like, I don't know, someone had been putting junk mail in the letterbox where it says no junk mail. And this lady's talking to me on the phone.

Fitzy 37:12

Is that a crime?

McConnell 37:13

Yes, it's 100%. That's why you that's why you drink the station. So she's talking to me, and I'm looking, there's nothing I can do. Okay, and I remember she goes, Look, if you don't do anything, I'm gonna go to the federal police. And you went, Do you want to know the number? Do you know what I said? And it's actually a real good like rapport builder. Because I was like, No, no, no, it's it's not like the movies. And she's like, What do you mean? I was like, we don't have like the FBI that look after us, and she's like, Oh I'm like, hey, I can give you the federal police's number.

Burso 37:43

I guarantee they'll give you they'll give you less air time than I'm getting. Like, have you tried ringing Australia Post? Yeah, or just told the 12-year-old kid to read the sticker that you've got on here saying, Hey, yeah, that says no junk mail. No junk mail. Just for your advice, this is junk mail that you're giving me. Stands up. Oh, it's beautiful. Good times. What else we got? Blackhawk Down, I love for Army.

Fitzy 38:05

Saving Provitron.

Burso 38:07

Mate, that kills me that movie.

Fitzy 38:09

Best movie ever.

Burso 38:10

That that part where Old Mate just sits here while his mate gets stabbed. Like that that does make me that affected me.

Fitzy 38:15

Upset me a lot, but at the same time. Pretty full-on stuff that's going on.

Burso 38:21

He was getting mad death threats after that, apparently.

Fitzy 38:23

Oh really?

Burso 38:24

Which is fair enough, because it's not often a dude's portrayal of a character is I'm like, yeah, he's acting. I'm like that dude, I'm like, I hate him. I like I hated him from that. And and then I saw um I saw he was in another movie recently, and I hated him again.

Fitzy 38:38

And it's been I don't even know how long that's been, but I saw him in ninety five or ninety six, I reckon that came out. Oh really?

Burso 38:43

So yeah, and I like I saw him in another movie, I'm like, I hope someone kills him in this movie. I think I might have just turned it off. It like, yeah, like really affected me. I was like, you are the epitome of a worm, and I cannot stand you.

McConnell 38:57

It's it's that's funny with stuff. Like I I love war movies, but like again, maybe more the old school ones. Like I I don't like scenes like that, I hate it. Like, is it and again, it's that's not so much the gory stuff, it's just looking at that guy, and maybe that's what good movies do, I don't know. But yeah.

Burso 39:14

That's the thing. Like when it when a movie really affects you, like even one way or another, it's like, well, the movie's done what it wanted to. Um, and not every movie, obviously, I mean they used to like that. And that's what the beauty of the 90s was. The good guy won all the time. Yep. You know, like it didn't matter what the scenario was, you're talking Terminator, talking uh like Predator or whatever it is. Like Arnie, whatever role Arnie was playing, you know, he won. He's like commando.

Fitzy 39:38

Well, hang on, he didn't he didn't win in the first one. In the terminator. Not Terminator, uh is it Terminator? Terminator, he's done a few, so what's the one where he comes from the future?

Burso 39:48

Yeah, he was a bad guy in the future. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. John Connor wins. No, no, no, no.

Fitzy 39:54

So that's Sarah Connor wins. Sarah Connor wins. John Connor, when he comes back, he's the father figure. Yeah, yeah. And then he's then he's the good guy.

Burso 40:01

Yeah, and he sends his like best mate back to have sex with his mum to make it. That's a that's weird if you look into that. I think I've seen that movie on the internet.

Fitzy 40:10

Terminate Terminator Tomb is the only it's the only one worth watching. It just goes downhill from there.

Burso 40:15

Oh, Sarah Connor got stuck in the washing machine. Yeah, brother came back from time. Wow. It's just like we're getting cancelled with it, boys.

McConnell 40:25

Uh definitely Rocky Rocky losers in the first one.

Burso 40:28

Oh, yeah, true.

McConnell 40:29

But it was like a motivational loss.

Burso 40:31

Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was they're getting fired up. But it didn't leave you with a bad feeling.

McConnell 40:34

No, it was still pretty good. Yeah. Little did we know it was opening up for nine more movies to go afterwards.

Fitzy 40:42

Yeah. They're not finished yet.

Burso 40:44

No, but he um yeah, I mean he just sits in the background too of something out. He's like, I just work at it, I work at the bar now. He's uh yeah, yeah, I'm at the bar.

Fitzy 40:53

I thought the the new guy came in and he uh you had a drink, you know, and uh you get hit, yeah. Well he's punch drunk. I like the one now where he's the he's flying the plane around and he's got his little hit squad that go around and do all the expendables.

Burso 41:05

Yeah, that's great. That is the close and it's funny because they've all grabbed the guys in the 90s. Yes. But the expendables is amazing.

Fitzy 41:11

You name a guy there on there, some hard, someone hard there on there.

Burso 41:15

Not even remotely hard out. Dolph Lundren, how is he he managed for ages, now he's back with a vengeance.

McConnell 41:20

We need we need someone with aggressive jorts. Let's get Stone Cold Steve Austin.

Burso 41:26

But I love that Stone Cold Steve Austin is not a character. The rattles. He is actually if you met him in real life, 100% he's smashing two cans, drinking them, and he's gonna be wearing jorts. There is not a chance he turns up in a suit and speaks differently.

McConnell 41:41

He's not even trying to get attention, he's just sitting quietly in a bar, knocking him back like that.

Burso 41:45

I reckon he got into wrestling by accident. He would have been at a bar, got into a bar fight in front of Vince McBarn, and then he just went, Oh, are you? And he goes, Hell yeah. Cool, man. Hey, like, I need you to play a character. It's like, shut the up, mate. He's like, Righty up. That'll do it. You know what? I'm just gonna give you beers. I'll tell you when to go out, I'll tell you when I come back. Exactly. Go smash some people. He's like, what? So I can smash people with chairs and do whatever. He goes, Yes, mate, just what just what I just saw you doing now. Either go out and I'm gonna save you some jail time.

McConnell 42:14

Have you and wow, we're getting off topic. This is cool. Have you seen Behind the Mat?

Burso 42:18

No.

McConnell 42:18

So it's it's behind the scenes of the wrestling stuff, and this is like with mankind and and all the stuff, dudes. And holy shit, man, like probably not a great choice, but there's one thing where mankind actually he's doing a cage match with like the undertaker. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Did you ever say that, Bitzy? But he brings his family. Oh, really? So and his young kids, and they're sitting in front row centre. Yeah, he's getting chucked off this seven foot, eight foot cage cage, ends up legit cut, he's bleeding, the kids are freaking out, and you're like, well, maybe leave the kids at home.

Burso 42:51

And he's not breaking character, yeah, yeah.

McConnell 42:52

No, no, no, no. He's he's doing his thing, but the kids are freaking out because dad's getting his ass kicked.

Burso 42:57

Yeah. Yeah. Which was his go-to. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So mankind is like an overweight dude with a with a bit. Did he at the start was he wearing a mask as well? He had like some mask on, I think. He was Mankind and then he changed to Nick Foley. Yep. But um yeah, he used to have a mask and he was just a weird unit.

McConnell 43:14

Just behind the scenes here. If it's his eyes are going like one of those one of those carnival stuff.

Fitzy 43:18

There was a guy that I used to work with in the army that was all of this stuff. And so I know I I don't remember the names of them, but I'm pretty sure there was the guy that was the producer of the whole thing that used to be. Tell him about it.

Burso 43:30

Tell him about Mancoin's favourite finishing move. Yeah, so which is funny because finishing, like obviously they got it from World of Combat or something. There's like everybody has a finisher. And then his was a sock puppet. So Mr. Socco. Was it? Yeah. So it was like had a sock. He used to put this sock on his hand. And he'd like just grab him in the mouth or something, wouldn't he? Yeah, the mandible, the mandible claw. It was like it wasn't even a it wasn't a big move or whatever, was it? It was just like it Put put a sock in their mouth and they just went, ah, and then he just like put them on the ground or something.

McConnell 44:05

Like it was in fairness, that's probably when I tap out someone sock in my mouth.

Burso 44:09

Because he wouldn't have washed it. Yeah, no, yeah. It was just it was bizarre, man. But like that, I mean that was 90s wrestling though. That was crazy. Really enjoyed that. Have you seen Maverick?

McConnell 44:21

Yes.

Burso 44:22

I was so scared.

McConnell 44:23

Scared that Maver was gonna die. Oh no, no, no.

Burso 44:26

You were scared it was gonna be terrible. Yeah, I was scared it was gonna be bad. I was like, don't you dare ruin this.

McConnell 44:30

Mate, I oh man, this is gonna sound real bad. So Top Gun was my favourite movie as a kid, right? Yeah, and then it had such a massive gap. It was such a weird feeling for me watching that movie. And feel free to laugh at me, but it was almost like meeting an old friend. Thank you. Yeah. Um but but it was just and I think it was a childhood mate that you'd caught up with, yeah. Yeah, yeah. And I think the way they did it, and we were talking about expert opinions and stuff, and especially now, like YouTube's full of them, and most of those dudes are pretty pro. Like, you know, you've got ex-top gun pilots now doing their own YouTube stuff, and then they were going, no, this is actually pretty spot on kind of thing. And then yeah, I thought it was awesome.

Burso 45:11

That was um that was a thing that Tom's like, I'm flying, yeah. And look, I know people hate Tom Cruise for various things, right? But he's literally making movies because of stuff he wants to do. Yeah, like you know, like his mission impossible stuff, he's like, Hey, um, I'm gonna like base jump off a bike riding into the Grand Canyon. How's that sound? Can we base a movie around why we need to do that?

McConnell 45:34

It's like you know even at the end when he flies off in the Mustang, it's like his Mustang. Yeah, like and Jennifer Connolly is just in there and she's like, Yeah, come on, we'll go fly. Like, super cool.

Burso 45:45

Yeah, and um, yeah, just everything, everything he does is just I'm doing a stunt on this, base a movie around that. Like like Mission Impossibles are literally just him going, I want to stand on the wing of a tiger moth, and you guys spin around for a bit, yeah, and then I'm gonna get in and fly it. It's like what yeah, I'm gonna throw the pilot out, I'm gonna get in and fly it, um, and then I want you to work out a storyline around that. Why would I why would I need to do that? It's like and what is he, 60 something now? He'd have to be up there.

McConnell 46:16

He was one guy that lost me during the Oprah years, you know, when he's jumping on the couch. He went through through some weird times, but I'll he's got me back.

Burso 46:25

I think I think he lost himself for a bit. Yeah, probably. To be fair. And and like, I mean, he did have God mode set as a human. Like that'd be I mean, I don't know.

Fitzy 46:34

Imagine having Yeah, what was he? That was he was into some weird Oh Scientology and stuff.

Burso 46:38

He probably still is, but it's um but just imagine having anywhere Tom went. Like you could walk in, you had the key to the world, basically. You walk in, someone's like, hey, get in. You had enough money to buy the building. Yeah, yeah. If you're like someone gave you a grief, you're like, I just bought this bar, mate, get out. Yeah, it's like not that he did that, but that'd be me. I'd be super petty if I had Tom, if I had Tom Cruise Power.

McConnell 46:59

I think I mentioned it maybe on the last podcast where you know you just get so much money, and I think it was one of the Gallagher brothers. Oh, yeah. Yeah, he bought an apartment and the pub next door was too noisy, so he bought the pub and shut it down. Like, that's pretty good.

Burso 47:13

Yeah, like just the pettiness, like having that much money just to be that petty would be amazing. Oh, it'd be classic. Um, what other movies do we have?

McConnell 47:23

What about non-policy, non-policy kind of movies or non mate?

Burso 47:28

I you know what? Craig, uh what's his name? The the Craig from the Bonds. McLaughlin. Oh, we're showing our age. No, um Yeah, I know the one you're talking about.

Fitzy 47:41

Yeah, I think his name is Daniel Craig. That's impossible.

Burso 47:44

That's why I was getting confused. It's his last name. Yeah, like Daniel Craig from The Bonds, he's he's my favourite Bond. He he killed it. Then he did the Belvidie of Bodkarad, and it's sort of lost me a bit.

McConnell 47:52

So I can't watch James Bond movies because I've tried twice. My cousin.

Burso 47:57

The earlier ones or the Daniel Craig ones?

McConnell 47:59

Uh so I tried to watch a Sean Connery one. Oh my god. So different. My cousins put me onto it, right? Yeah. It's actually really good. And the opening scene for the Bond fans, you probably know which one it is. But you know, when you do that thing when you hide in the corner and you like put your arms around yourself and put your face, it looks like it looks like you're making out with someone. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He was doing that. That was his disguise. Yeah, and he got away with it. And I was like, oh genius. And then I tried to watch one of the later ones where there's like a plane going down, it's out of control. Bond parachutes out of something else, and then somehow they like they're both falling towards the ground. He drifts towards the plane, yeah, ends up like hopping in the plane and then pulling up.

Burso 48:42

Is that a Sean Connery one or is that a modern one, maybe?

McConnell 48:45

Yeah, but yeah, they're not my thing, man.

Burso 48:48

Did you get the um The Bourns? No, never gotten the Bournes either.

Fitzy 48:53

Big fan of those, but I like the books. The books are better.

Burso 48:56

I'll take your word for it. I'm not gonna I'm not gonna read it. I'll do the audiobook. That'll be the close I get to reading a book. That's why I'm not reading SJ's books until she's finished them. Yeah. Then I'll just listen to the whole thing. But what uh what other movies have we got? Anything special?

McConnell 49:10

Days and Confuse. You seen that? Oh yes. Matthew McConaughey's, I think that was his first. He's a cool dude. Yeah.

Burso 49:16

Have you listened to Green Lights? His book?

McConnell 49:18

No. Good. Yeah, good. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Burso 49:20

He it's funny though, because he's uh have you heard it? Read it? Nope. Um so he um it's funny because he Is it him doing the audio?

McConnell 49:27

Yes. Yeah, yeah, definitely.

Burso 49:29

Because I never got in him until um one of our mates put me onto uh Matthew Betts uh Matthew Best's book. Um thank thank you for my service.

McConnell 49:36

Yeah, I've listened to that as well.

Burso 49:38

Yeah, yeah, yeah. But he reads I love when people read their own stuff. Yeah, because obviously if someone else reads it, you're like, yeah, it's an actor that's trying to work out what the the idea is. But when you read when they're reading their own one, and what do you love from that?

Fitzy 49:50

Sorry, just made me go back to that movie we're talking about before. Maybe that's what happened. Someone wrote down what they're supposed to do. Oh, yeah, yeah. Not who the fuck spiders.

Burso 49:59

I'm not you just then going, Well, why would I have sex with a spider? That makes no sense. Um I'm so confused, just like, yes, mate, that's the idea for this weird statement. But um, yeah, so so his book is it's amazing the the way he does it. But oh his pauses are all there. Yeah, all right, all right, all right. All right, he says he says it so many times. Oh, does it get because he goes to where it came from, which is I'm pretty sure it stays in confused. It's the first time he says it. But that was never part of it. But he's just like, I'm just ad lib. Yeah, I'm just ad living, just do a bit of improv over here. And they did it, and they just went, obviously, we're keeping that. Yeah, and then he went, Well, I'm actually keeping that for every other movie I'm ever gonna be. Like, and I'm gonna say it all the way through this book.

McConnell 50:40

He's probably not even from Texas, he's just found the access. He's like, I'm gonna ride this out for 30 years.

Burso 50:44

Yeah, exactly. Yeah, I love that mate. And the um I think uh Braveheart. Braveheart. I love a bit of Braveheart action. I was so happy with Maverick when that came out. I was so excited. I was yeah, I know I was so nervous, I was so upset where it was gonna be terrible. I was like, Don't don't ruin this because this is gonna ruin the legacy.

McConnell 51:02

Yep.

Burso 51:02

I was like, you could you you had it, it was perfect, it was the best. No one's ever been upset about it ever since. And my you are very and I mean, what is it, 25 years on? Yeah, I was I think it was like longer 84 or something.

McConnell 51:15

Yeah, did you, and this is a safe place, did you or did you not get goosebumps and or tears when dangers aren't cranked up at the start? Oh dude, I was jacked up, man. Amazing.

Burso 51:27

So good. So it was so good. Yeah, but I mean, mate, there's so and there's so many twists in that. Even even like when they when they fly an F-14 out, yeah, like spare me. Who thought of that? Yeah, yeah. Absolute genius.

McConnell 51:42

And it even absolutely loved it. They could have lost it at that point, but I still think it was pretty cool.

Burso 51:48

Yeah, because they could because obviously an F 14's not not winning, not winning against anybody that's out there. Yeah, like somebody's gonna fly a drone and go, I'm gonna take that down. But um, yeah, and the but the way they fix that too is awesome. Like the other dude that obviously appears and does stuff, is um if you haven't seen it, you're an idiot. So whatever. Hangman, yeah. When Hangman rocks up and like saves the day, and but just has the attitude, you know, that Maverick had the first time, and he saves him that way, and then you know, everyone's everyone's high fiving on the deck again.

McConnell 52:18

I'm like, this is so good. Even getting Val Kilmer in again is ice. Like dude literally can't talk, yeah. So they had to piece together like part like holy shit, like yeah, it was it was cool.

Fitzy 52:30

That hangman guy, I really love him in all these movies too. He's always the nice guy, so I'm thinking like hidden figures.

Burso 52:36

He's in um he's in Twisters at the moment. Is he? Yeah, you go see Twisters, he's in it.

McConnell 52:39

He's in he's in some rom com kind of stuff too.

Burso 52:41

Yeah, he's yeah, he's got that. I think that's coming out next. Yeah, yeah.

Fitzy 52:44

I know he's the astronaut in hidden figures, and he's the he's the good dude in there. I'm like, yeah, I like that guy. Yeah, and he's such a dick in Maverick.

Burso 52:51

Yeah, that's not him.

Fitzy 52:54

No, don't don't do that to him.

Burso 52:56

He oh his agent must have been like, hey, we're gonna get more jobs if you're the nice guy going forwards. You want to get in some rom coms? You need to be nice in the next couple.

McConnell 53:04

Do you know what I do love, mate? Is that I got my kid here while we're doing it. I assume he's gone looking at the colour. Oh, he's just gone wanted to do that. Yeah, he's just left. Yeah, yeah. I've trained him well, mate. He's gonna come back with gold chains and stuff.

Burso 53:16

Yeah, he's he's found all the jewelry wise. He's like, this is what we do. We distract him with the podcast and then we uh steal all the stuff. You're not gonna get much out of my joint. Yeah, no offense.

McConnell 53:26

Hey dude, I'm gonna have to do a podcast walkout, I reckon. Drop the little man home.

Burso 53:30

Yeah, that's cool, man.

McConnell 53:31

I'm gonna walk out.

Burso 53:32

Well, why don't we all just walk out? All right, it's it's it's a walkout. It's been fun.

Fitzy 53:37

Bye.

Burso 53:38

Cheers. Bye bye for anyone else.

unknown 53:43

You're not gonna stop there.

Burso 53:45

Just do it.

Fitzy 53:49

What's the worst that's gonna happen? Just do it.

McConnell 54:30

Yesterday you said more. Yesterday is that all yesterday is after all, we go.