Hustle & Flow
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We have worked so many types of jobs over 33 years. We have worked in the service industry, retail, corporate and blue collar work. We have been Realtors for 18 years, managing property, flipping houses and owning short term rentals. We have worked staff work which includes everything from Pastoring to Youth Pastoring to Children’s ministry.
We have been involved in CrossFit for over 11 years, owning a gym, coaching and actively working out. We are involved in Spartan races and travel the nation competing.
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We have raised four children and currently have two grandchildren. Family is of utmost importance to us.
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Hustle & Flow
Building Mental Toughness and Embracing Resilience
What if mental toughness is something you can cultivate rather than just a trait you're born with? In this episode of the Hustle and Flow podcast, we discuss the arrival of our grandson, John Bradford, whose due date interestingly aligns with our anniversary plans. We also discuss the impact of my recent scoliosis diagnosis, adding a personal layer to our broader discussion on resilience. Tiffany and I compare our distinct approaches to building mental toughness: I actively seek out challenges, while Tiffany embodies resilience naturally.
Mastering emotions is a key theme, as we share experiences that highlight the importance of processing rather than ignoring emotions. From nearly becoming stoic to finding emotional release through prayer, we underscore that mental toughness involves seeing challenges as temporary and reframing them positively. We recount stories of caring for sick family members and navigating business setbacks, emphasizing the essential traits of confidence, stability, and belief in one's ability to overcome obstacles.
Challenging yourself to grow is another significant focus, where I talk about pushing limits through the 5K a day challenge and the 75 Hard program. We also discuss signing up for the Dallas Spartan Ultra, a task that has required me to hire a running coach and extensively train. Whether it's sleeping outside for a 24-hour event or considering sleeping on the floor before long runs, we emphasize the value of stepping out of comfort zones. To those hesitant to take risks, we offer encouragement, highlighting how these experiences build resilience and foster personal growth.
Hey, good morning. Good morning, this is Brad and I'm with my beautiful wife, Tiffany. We are the hosts of the hustle and flow podcast. Thank you for listening this morning. I don't know where you may be. Maybe you're on your way to work, Maybe you're just kicking back at home sipping some coffee, Maybe you're reading a good book I'm not sure. But I hope you're having a great morning and we thank you for listening to us this morning. Good morning, Tiffany.
Speaker 2:Good morning.
Speaker 1:What's going on in your world?
Speaker 2:Anything new? Getting excited that our grandson will be born Looks like it can be sooner than we thought, but we're getting excited about that. We nervous. We have a vacation plan to celebrate an anniversary and it is looking a little sooner. So we are praying that he stays and bakes a little bit longer.
Speaker 1:A little bit longer. Yeah, Our anniversary is August 17th and her due date was August 16th. So we thought, hey, we'll do the smart thing and we're going to go do our anniversary vacation in July. Well, ta-da, yeah, she's already started dilating and it's like hey, sis, you need to like slow your roll and maybe do a little bed rest or something to get this baby till we can get back. And I think I think, uh, our daughter, our son-in-law's mother, said, if we can wait till the 30th of July, that would actually be better for her too. So so we're, maybe we're hoping you know, Ronza, that that it can wait until the 30th as well, and that way everybody can get back and be happy and settled and we can welcome John Bradford into the family.
Speaker 1:And my first grandson I'm stoked about it and I love my granddaughter is going to be rough and tough and fun, and I'm going to be rough and tough with a grandson too. We'll make him be I don't want to say mean, but I'm going to make him tough and have fun. And so we're actually talking this morning about mental toughness. And so we're actually talking this morning about mental toughness, and that is one of those things that I want to help develop in my kids and my grandkids is teach them about that.
Speaker 1:And I actually just learned and like I've really not processed it, I don't think it's no big deal like because I hadn't like thought anymore about it, other than I've just been diagnosed that I have scoliosis. And I didn't know, I had no idea that I had that until I got some tests done, some work looked at, and was diagnosed with scoliosis. And I said what? And they said yeah, yes, you're pretty crooked. Like how long has it been that way? I have no idea. I ain't been to the doctor in years. So I get a blood test every once in a while but I don't know. So I don't even know how that affects your body, other than it's all crooked and jacked up and it makes my back hurt sometimes. But so I was diagnosed with scoliosis, which is interesting. So I'm assuming that's something I'll have to work through in my life as I get older. I don't know, I mean, it's just something I've never paid attention to, I don't know anything about it. So just now learning.
Speaker 1:But I think mental toughness is one of those things that we have to work through and we have to look at. And I told you this morning. I said mental toughness is one of the hardest things that that people have to work through. And I said, if I had to choose one person who I feel like is the most mentally tough person, it's you. So hello, my mentally tough wife. Let's talk about mental toughness. What? And let's just talk about it. And what? What is, what does mental toughness look like?
Speaker 2:You know, and the thing is is that you talk about it a lot and you read books about it and you, whatever, but I, honestly, I don't think about it at all. So you're just bad, you're just bad. Yeah, I guess I'm just bad, but I don't really think about it and I don't read about it and I don't. I don't pursue being mentally tough. You do, you like to do hard things, you like to do tough things, you like to do challenges. You know, and sometimes I, you know, I'll go along like we just finished the 5k a day in the month of June and that that was mentally tough and it was really interesting.
Speaker 2:A lot of people in the groups that were fit and very fit, some of them were runners, some of them were just CrossFitters, some were were both, and they said this was so much harder than I thought it was going to be, not necessarily just the physical part, but the mental part of committing to it and seeing it through every day. But I don't seek out those things and so you know, like I said, that somewhat surprises me, because I don't think about it and I don't think about necessarily being mentally tough. Do I feel like I'm tough? Yes, but I don't know that you and I share the same like desire. I don't think I need to be any more mentally tough because I feel like it if I'm, if I'm. I don't know if mentally tough and tough are the same necessarily thing, but I don't want to be. I don't want to dilute my being a female. Yeah, does that make sense?
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean, I get that. Yeah, so I think sometimes mentally tough and physically tough are maybe two separate things, and so in my mind there are times that I equate those two, because sometimes the physical challenges that I take on cause me to have a different mental state in order to survive those things. And so some of those kind of maybe they're kissing cousins, I don't know physical tough and mentally tough can kind of kind of be one of the most mentally tough people I know, and if you know who I'm talking about, can't hurt me.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah.
Speaker 1:David Goggins. Yeah, now you know he drops a lot of words that we don't use on a regular basis here. We don't use those words really at all, but David Goggins is probably one of the most mentally tough people I know. That joker is crazy, like he is crazy and he would tell you he's crazy. He's crazy. I've heard stories about him and the things that he's done and you know he's the only guy to graduate SEAL training and Army Ranger training the only person in history to ever do that. He graduated SEAL training on stress fractures and you've had stress fracture before. How fun was that yeah, it wasn't.
Speaker 1:Can you imagine completing SEAL training on stress?
Speaker 2:fractures. I just I ran I don't know seven miles um, did a race on them and it was tough. So, no, I can't imagine, like day in, day day out, doing doing all that.
Speaker 1:And so he's a mentally tough guy, you know, and I respect him and I respect people who actually go out and do things like that. But what, what does it really look like? What does mental toughness look like? Does it? Does it mean that things don't affect you, Cause I've said you're a mentally tough person? Does that mean that you're, you're just, you're not affected by anything?
Speaker 2:No, I don't think it means that things don't affect you. I do think that things don't affect you as much when you're mentally tough. People apologize to me over stupid crazy things sometimes, or hope I didn't offend you or I hope I didn't. Whatever I'm like, I don't even know what you're talking about.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 2:Like that. No, that didn't. I think that it does mean that things don't first of all affect you as much, or that you don't allow them to affect you also to the degree that maybe somebody who's not mentally tough would affect them.
Speaker 1:Right. What does it mean? Do you have emotion? I mean, are you not emotional? Do you not ever have emotion? Are you stoic all the time?
Speaker 2:if you're mentally tough, no, but I think you process things differently. Yeah, well, what does that look?
Speaker 1:like Okay, so let's talk about that. You have a terrible circumstance. I don't know what it is, I don't want to say anything specific. Say you have something terrible happen to you. How do you process that? Because you said that mentally tough people process things differently. How do you process that as a mentally tough person?
Speaker 2:I think first you just can't react and we may talk about that a little bit more, but you just can't immediately react out of your emotion to that, to that thing or to that situation. I think you have to really think it through and think, okay, what is what does this really look like? And and also what like what's what's really true about this circumstance or this situation and what's not. What is like fear in in inside of myself or the negativity inside of myself, like what is that? What is that lie about the situation that I may be hearing? And then what's the truth about this situation?
Speaker 1:Yeah, but that's actually good, because let's just, let's just break it down. Every person, I don't care who you are, has fears of some kind, but some fears are exacerbated by the point of whatever's happening. If that's kind of a fear of yours, then automatically people who aren't mentally tough and I'm not degrading that, I'm just saying that there are people who are more mentally tough than others, People who aren't maybe as mentally tough they automatically go to worst case scenario. Right, they think, oh, my gosh, this is here it comes. Here it comes. The book of Job says it best. The thing that I feared the most has come upon me and there's something that everybody fears and when it starts to rear its head, you're like, uh, is this it? Is this it? And you have to harden your mind against life, circumstance, people. You know you can't allow yourself. Like you said, I think it's in the reaction. You know what was it? What was it? I told you that there's got to be space between, uh, the stimulus and the reaction. People who are not mentally tough automatically respond.
Speaker 2:Yeah, my day is ruined or nothing. You know, nothing goes my way, or you know I might as well just go back home and go to bed. Bad things always happen to me, and not again like if it's not one thing, it's your mother.
Speaker 1:Absolutely, I love that it's your mother Absolutely. I love that. That's my favorite.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean that's, that's an automatic reaction to whatever this thing is that I'm going through, or this thing that happened is going to take over, you know, all the other the good things in my life, or the good things going on, or my day, or my attitude or in that, and it just doesn't have to be that way, no, it don't, and that's it, though it's an automatic.
Speaker 1:Woe is me, woe is me. Here we go and it completely erodes everything that's happening and it makes you want to go back and get in the bed. It makes you just want to shut off your phone. I'm disconnecting from everybody. I'm not talking to anybody.
Speaker 2:You know, and if we're being real honest, that's self-pity that you're describing. Self-pity is a poison to you being mentally tough.
Speaker 1:That's good. Yeah, I absolutely agree with that because you said it. It does not take into account if you're not mentally tough. It does not take into account what the truth is, what the facts are. Is your day really ruined because you had a flat? Yeah, no, well, it depends on who you are.
Speaker 1:There are some people whose day is completely ruined if they have a flat tire. Well, I'm not going to lie, I don't really enjoy flats either. They make me hot and sweaty and a little mad sometimes because I'm out there having to change it. Maybe the wrench don't fit like it's supposed to, or somebody borrowed my jack, I mean. But does that ruin my day? Well, no, the truth is is that you can let it ruin your day? But the truth of the matter is is that it may just be a minor inconvenience? But the truth of the matter is is that it may just be a minor inconvenience that you have to process that and realize, hey, I'm on my way to see my parents 50th anniversary. Well, do you want to let a flat tire ruin their day?
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Or you want to let it ruin it. That's, that's what I'm saying. So I think it goes back to having the capacity, maybe, to persistently pursue some goals. You want to remain determined, no matter how hard life gets. So here's four things that we believe that mentally tough people are. Number one they're resilient.
Speaker 2:What does that look like? Being resilient, you can bounce back from whether it's a minor inconvenience or something major that happens. A job, you know. A job change, job loss, you know. Relationship loss, failures, you know, of your, of your own doing, or just failure, maybe with a marriage or anything else like that, the disappointments you know. Just being able to say, okay, I can't let this take me out.
Speaker 2:Now, not that those, some of those things like a failure of a marriage, that's a big deal. But making up your mind, this is hard. It's going to. I don't know, I don't even know yet how I'm going to get to the other side of it, but I am going to get to the other side of it, right, to get to the other side of it, but I am going to get to the other side of it Right. And having a mindset of whatever this is, this is not good, this, this is, this is not, you know, not something I even expected, would have ever wanted. But I'm going to get through it, I'm going to figure out how to get through it.
Speaker 1:Well, it goes back to what you said. It goes back to it's not that you don't feel stuff. Nobody said, hey, you need to just switch your mind off and never feel again. And I'll be the first to say this, and I will admit this I read a book last year maybe the year before, I can't remember exactly. It was called Master your Emotions. The book was great. The book was great, but if you remember this story, I did not.
Speaker 1:I started mastering my emotion to the point that I almost became stoic and I did not cry in any form or fashion for seven months, no matter what. And I'm an emotional guy, especially when it comes to worship I'm emotional. Not once did I shed a tear, and I had a preacher pray for me about some family members and it broke. And ever since then I've been just a big crybaby. I feel like we were praying this morning and I'm trying to get through the prayer and I'm like tearing up and crying. I'm like, come on, man, I can't even get through this. So does that mean I'm not mentally tough? Absolutely not. That just means that I'm able to feel my emotion.
Speaker 1:And the thing there is that in order to be resilient, you've got to view things as temporary. Yeah, they're not permanent. If you have a flat tire, you're not going to have a flat tire every day for the rest of your life. Right, it's going to have to be fixed, Okay, In order to get your car back on the road. Some things are just temporary and it's like you said even in bad situations relationships or marriages that end, or death or anything like that you will get to the other side. You can get to this. Some people don't. I take that back. Some people don't get to the other side. They live the rest of their life not bouncing back from a setback, a failure or something like that. But you can. You have to view it as a temporary situation and not live in a temporary place. So go ahead.
Speaker 2:Yeah, live in a temporary place, so go ahead. Yeah, I, you know I've been through situations that I needed. I really needed to be mentally tough to get to get through them. You know, caring for my aunt that had cancer, that was in the hospital for a while, like that was really hard. Hospital staying Anybody that's done that knows that's the worst and I knew we were going to be there a while. But, um, I knew that was not, that wasn't forever. Each day was a new day. Each day was, you know, and I started it was.
Speaker 2:It was really really hard because my running businesses, you know, my own family, a lot of things I needed to my priority became with you know, with everybody's's blessing around me, to be there with her. And I started trying to reframe that I'm able to have this time with her instead of this hospital stay and all this stuff and her illness, like all of this is the worst of the worst of the worst. I started trying to think I'm able to be here, I'm able to spend this time, I'm able to have another day here, I'm able to spend this time, I'm able to have another day, and that's the thing. You just have to reframe your mind sometimes, in these situations, you know a business that doesn't work out or a job loss OK, well, I'm able to reinvent myself. I'm able to find something that maybe I'm more passionate about.
Speaker 2:Maybe this is you know, everything is not meant for our demise. Some things, you know. We're believers. We believe that sometimes things happen and doors close for something better, that there's a better door that's going to open. So sometimes it's best to sit back and decide I'm not going to embrace self-pity, I'm going to be upset from it, I'm going to be disappointed, but then I'm going to keep my eyes open and say, okay, is there something?
Speaker 1:I don't even see here? Absolutely. And I think that you know even your aunt. She came and lived with us the past, the last two, two months or so of her life and and just watching you have to be mentally tough for her. You couldn't go break down because she's dying and you couldn't break down for everybody else and it was. It was hard to watch, but but resilience is important and working through that, you know. I think it's super important to to be able to work through that. You know, another thing that that is important to that mentally tough people have is they have confidence, and that that doesn't't does not mean that they are arrogant or prideful. That's not what I'm talking about. It's that they have the ability in their mind to believe that they can meet whatever challenges are coming your way. Is that I am up for the challenge? Yeah, what'd you laugh? I?
Speaker 2:was laughing because when before I said I was talking about it, I don't know how I can say it and say it.
Speaker 2:But you know I was talking about. You know there's a point to where I don't want to go too far, because I can take away being the female side and I think about oftentimes. You know, I do have a lot of confidence and sometimes you'll tell me to put my male parts up, and so that's what I mean, like because I think I can do. I you'll tell me to put my mail parts up, and so that's what I mean, like because I think I can do. I really do think I can do anything sometimes and that's not always, you know Well, but you're right.
Speaker 1:I do have to say that sometimes let's put it back in your pants here and you want to be stable, and I think mentally tough people seem to be stable people, and it doesn't mean they're not going through, it doesn't mean they're not experiencing things, but that they're confident in the ability to say hey, you know what. I've been through hard things before. This too shall pass and I can work through it and I have the confidence that I can meet the challenge, whatever it is. And look, I can tell you if you have any age on you at all, life sucks. Sometimes you lose people that you hope you don't lose Parents die, siblings die, mamas die, spouses die, jobs get lost, you lose. Things happen, but you have to say you know what. I can survive and get through this. Another thing is adaptability, and I like this about you is that you're adaptable. Me, I've had to learn how to be adaptable. I'm not. I'm not as adaptable as I, as I need to be, but I'm better. But I think adaptability and what does that look like?
Speaker 2:I guess you know open to change and new ideas, and I don't know, I don't know sometimes all the whatever of why we are the way we are, why you may not like change, why I'm good with change. But you're right, you do need to be adaptive, to build mental toughness, because new challenges and new things and new situations will bring mental toughness to you, because you have to have a new mindset for those new opportunities or those new situations or the things that maybe just are a little uncomfortable for you. Being uncomfortable and getting through something develops mental toughness and that's what we're talking about. It's like, you know, we, we talk and we kind of do a little checklist like am I? Am I as mentally tough as I need to be?
Speaker 2:And some of these things are that are little questions to ask yourself. You know, can I improve there? Can I? If you want to be mentally tough, you know, can I improve that? Can I become more adaptable? Is that where maybe I'm like I have confidence but I don't love change and I'm not open to change and I shut change down or I shut new ideas down? And you know those things can keep you from being as mentally tough as you need to be.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I think so too, and you know Mike Tyson, I love this quote. Mike Tyson has said that everybody has a plan until they get punched in the face. And man, I've had so many good plans until I got punched in the face. And then I have to reevaluate can I adapt to this new life? Can I become who I need to be now and adapt to this? And I know Jake Paul is probably happy that Mike Tyson couldn't fight him, because he's about to get punched in the face too and his plan would have changed a whole bunch.
Speaker 1:But again, you have to be adaptable and I think, finally, you also have to be self-aware, and what that looks like is you need to know yourself. You need to know who Brad is, not you me. You need to know who Tiffany is, and you need to know your strengths, your weaknesses, your emotions, your thoughts, and by knowing who you are, you can have a clear mind to make decisions and know OK, look, this is a weak area of my life. Ok, so I need to bring in supplemental support in that particular area to help me here. Well, this is a strength I can. I can handle this. You know, or I know, that this is going to bring some emotion back to me if I do this and so you need to be self-aware, and that helps you begin to put your mind together and have a clear picture of what life really is.
Speaker 1:If you don't know yourself, you can never, ever, experience mental toughness, in my opinion Just, it's just my thought. So let's talk about as we, as we, we, we move on here. How do you become mentally tough? What are some things that you can do to be mentally tough?
Speaker 2:Do hard things.
Speaker 1:What does that look like, though, for okay For you? What does that mean for you, because for me it's different.
Speaker 2:For me it can be learning a new skill that I don't know, learning how to do something you know, technology related, without asking you until I absolutely have to. Learning something new with my business. That is not, maybe, my normal forte In the physical world. It can be just like the 5K a day challenge Last year. I talk about it often because it changed my life. Doing 75 hard that was one of the toughest things that I've ever done, that I chose to do but just constantly doing something different and harder than normal and that, like I said, maybe out of your comfort zone yeah, and that's it for me.
Speaker 1:Like I signed up for the dallas ultra, the spartan ultra and we we've talked about that a little bit. Well for you, for people who run all the time, they're like what's an ultra? It's no big deal. What's an ultra? It's no big deal. It's 31 miles. You know what's the big deal? People who run Spartan Ultras all the time are like this is no big deal.
Speaker 1:But look, I'm 52. I've been running for three and a half years. I'm not skinny, you know what I mean. I don't weigh 150 pounds. I carry about 195 pounds on my frame. That's a lot of muscle and it's hard to get this big boy moving and it's hard to get the big boy to stop. But it's also a lot of endurance.
Speaker 1:And so when I signed for up for this like this is this is hard, this is going to require anywhere between seven to ten hours on the course out in west texas, in the, in the ranch, in the dirt and desert, hot, and so I've really got to dig in. But it's challenging me because I hired a running coach you know Aaron Ford, good guy, ford, physical Therapy. I hired Aaron to put me together a plan. So I used to just be willy-nilly runner. I'll go out there and I'm going to run. Today I'm going to run 10 miles, okay great. Well, friday, I'm going to run five miles.
Speaker 1:Well, there was no real plan, because I don't know how to run, I just taught myself in three and a half years. But I met with Aaron. He put me together a plan to be able to accomplish this goal October the 19th. So I went out this morning. I told you. I said, oh my God, this is awesome to have a plan, because it changed my mind. Now I can switch that gear off and I know that I can engage, because I'm going to get there, because I can make this a strength of mine, whereas it slightly has been a weakness. I can lift weights, I can do pull-ups, but running that many miles kind of hurts, and so you have to do hard things, whatever that looks like.
Speaker 2:And for somebody else it may be. You know going and being around people more, going and getting involved in your community, but you're an introvert. It's people-y out here. Yeah, If you're a business owner, go in and networking with people when that's not really something that you normally do. That you just go in and you keep your head down and you do your business and you know, not involve somewhere else. That could be very hard for you. That would not be hard for me, but it may be hard for you, Right.
Speaker 1:Absolutely, and so you got to do hard things. I don't know what hard things look like for you. Ok, everybody has stuff that's different in their life, and what's hard for me may not be hard for you, and I think that that's important is to explore. It goes back to this and I think you and I talked about this a little bit to a point you have to do things so big that you may fail, and you're not a real fan of failure. That that you just don't, you don't like to do stuff because you might fail, and that that we talked about that a little bit.
Speaker 2:And tell me a little bit more about that being a perfectionist to to a degree some may say a real high degree, I would say maybe low degree, um, very high. Well, I am and I'm not, but I, I want to. I just want to make sure that I'm able to do something right and do it well. And so, yes, if I feel like I can't do something right or well, it may hold me back sometimes from trying something new. Um, physical things for me are probably fall into that category.
Speaker 2:You know, doing monkey bars, it looks so easy because you see seven-year-olds doing it, but it's a lot harder when you, like you said, you're 50, I'm 50. It's a lot harder when you're 50. I was doing that in a comp, in a Spartan race. I was doing the monkey bars well and was almost to the end and I saw the end and I got scared and I dropped off because I thought I may not finish and that's so stupid's crazy. It's the stupidest thing ever. Yeah, but, and I don't, I don't. Normally that's where you know I have to push through sometimes of doing something that my mind says that I may fail at.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I don't like to fail, and I don't like to fail, and I and I think that that you have to do stuff as big.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you know what I just thought about this too. Sometimes we don't want to look stupid, we don't want to look silly, or we don't want somebody to say, well, they tried that and that didn't work, or whatever. We don't try things sometimes because of what other people may think about us, because we may look stupid or silly, or they may think we're a failure or all these things, and and when that holds us back from doing something that we think we may fail at.
Speaker 1:But what if it works, yeah. What if you succeed? Yeah, what if that one time you think I'm not going to stop here, I'm going to get to the end of the monkey bar and you ring the bell. Yeah, can you imagine the confidence and the mental fortitude that you got? Because here's what happens when you accomplish something. What happens the next time you run up against that thing? You don't even think about it. You're like, hey, I've done this before, I can do this again. And that's the thing is that if you stop short and you don't challenge yourself, what if you fail? If you fail, guess what? Go back and try it again, do it again.
Speaker 1:I'm a firm believer. Look, get back up. The Bible says if you fall seven times, get up eight. You got to try it again, and I think that's important. But a lot of people love safety and they don't want to let their mind conceive that they could fail or they could look stupid or somebody's going, whatever. I can tell you right now, some of your best people have failed multiple times, multiple times, and so I think that that's it. Some other things you take a cold shower. Look, I'm going to be honest with you. I don't love cold showers, except when I run during the summer, I kind of have to back into a cold shower, because it's cold and it ain't no fun, you know. But cold showers, man, that that'll challenge you a little bit too. Uh, you get up early. Yeah, maybe you like to sleep in. Get up early.
Speaker 2:That's. That's been a big um, a big beneficial thing that we've we've done is is getting up earlier, yeah absolutely.
Speaker 1:It changed our, it changed our whole routine. It did change our whole life. Yeah.
Speaker 2:We found that we had more. We have more time. Now we do.
Speaker 1:Yeah, Except at night. We have to go to bed. I don't like that.
Speaker 2:I do not like going to bed when kids are out playing in the street and it's still daylight. I do not love that part of it.
Speaker 1:But you know reading things like that uh, exercising maybe. Look, nobody says you got to go run a marathon. Why don't you just get up and go do something? Yeah, walk, do something. Anything is great. You know something like that. Here's something I've been thinking about. What are you laughing about?
Speaker 2:The next thing you're talking about, because I just can't go with you there. You need to try it.
Speaker 1:No Sleeping outside. No Sleeping outside.
Speaker 2:The skitos would get me Skitos as our granddaughter calls them is skitos.
Speaker 1:Skitos would get me, the skitos will get you, they probably will Skitos love me.
Speaker 1:But we did that. We did the death by 5K. It was 24 hours and so we tried to sleep a little bit in between. We couldn't get the tent up because it was like my son I told you before he bought a mansion for a tent and like I couldn't figure out how to get up, so we just laid on top of it, but it was cold and like I tried to. So I think that there's just doing hard stuff and I've been thinking about this lately and I've not told you this, but I've been thinking about once a week before my long run, just sleeping on the floor with no cover and no pillow.
Speaker 2:Okay, well, do what's in your heart, yeah.
Speaker 1:Just to be hard. Do what's in, Just to be hard, Just in your heart. Here's the other thing. Maybe you work late, but I think that you've got to choose hard things that are hard for you, things that are out of your comfort zone. And the only way you get to the end zone is by moving out of your comfort zone and trying hard stuff. And I think that being mentally tough, especially in today's world, you've got to be mentally tough.
Speaker 1:We are raising and again, all right, Boomer, I hear you, Boomer we're raising a generation of kids that aren't as mentally tough as they need to be. They're hurt by some of the littlest of things, that things that we can't, as a 50-year-old, sometimes we can't understand. List of things that things that that we can't, as, as a 50 year old, sometimes we can't understand. But we have to work through that and I believe that that, no matter who you are or what you are, I think that you have to work on your mental toughness. You have to work on how being adaptable and that everything doesn't go your way. You have to have to work on how to be resilient and how to, how to be just uh, you don't have to be mean and arrogant and nothing bothers me and nothing hurts me. But you do have to learn how to be mentally tough and work through life, because life will kick you in the face sometimes. Any final words.
Speaker 2:Well, you know, and when you said that about maybe generations behind us not being as mentally tough, and that's the thing is that we want them to gain some of these skills because we know that life is going to kick them in the teeth and we want their days and their worlds to not be blown apart.
Speaker 2:You know, mental illness is constantly on the rise and it's on the rise among those younger generations, and so we want them to develop, when it's not mental illness and it's just not having the coping skills of being mentally tough, how to figure that out, so that their lives don't get off track and they don't turn to. You know, more and more people are turning to addiction and to devices and you know all these things, because they don't have the mental toughness to get through something that maybe, to what would have been tough for us, you know, at 30, is, you know, way tougher for them at 30. And so that's the thing is like these things help you to live better, live more productive and to live a more positive life when every little thing is not dragging you down.
Speaker 1:Absolutely. And we don't discount mental illness. We know that there are real mental illness and conditions that have to be treated by professional people. But you're right, it goes back to. Sometimes it's a coping mechanism that they've not either been allowed to experience or maybe they've not chose to. And you know, here's the thing, if you're that person that maybe you shy away from hard stuff because you love comfort and you don't really want to take a risk or anything like that, I want to encourage you. It will change your life, it absolutely can change your life by going in, doing something that you didn't think you could do and whatever that may look like for you. You know for us there's fitness things, but for you it may not be. It may be just something totally different that you don't think you can do. And I can tell you, you may fail but you may succeed. And if you succeed, it gives fail but you may succeed, and if you succeed it gives you confidence for the next time. So thank you so much for listening this morning.
Speaker 2:Any other words as we get ready to finish. No, just take a space, take a breath, think it through before you react.
Speaker 1:Absolutely, absolutely. Put space between you and the stimulus and boy, you respond. But hey, thanks so much for listening this morning. Hope you're having a great morning. We look forward to spending more time with you. Give us a five-star review, share this with your friends, or anything like that, to be able to help promote the podcast. Thank you so much. If you find something that you want to do, hop in the flow of life. Get in there with people who are going the direction you want to go and watch your life change. Have a great morning. Music, music, music, music, music, music, music, music, music, music, music, music, music, music, music, music, music, music, music, music, music, music, music, music, music, music, music, music, music, music. Oh yeah, I've been wanting this forever. I've been in the field with whatever they throw at me Brush it off, pick myself up, moving on to the better. Okay, hey, yeah, ain't no errors, baby, it's a new era. I wake up early feeling rich like I'm Kesha. I get to the paper.
