Hustle & Flow
Join us for the wisdom, humor and insight from a married couple of 33 years on the hustle and flow of life.
We have worked so many types of jobs over 33 years. We have worked in the service industry, retail, corporate and blue collar work. We have been Realtors for 18 years, managing property, flipping houses and owning short term rentals. We have worked staff work which includes everything from Pastoring to Youth Pastoring to Children’s ministry.
We have been involved in CrossFit for over 11 years, owning a gym, coaching and actively working out. We are involved in Spartan races and travel the nation competing.
We own a Dessert Cafe called Crave in Downtown Tupelo that has been open since 2014. We currently have three locations.
We have raised four children and currently have two grandchildren. Family is of utmost importance to us.
We have a life full of stories that we can’t wait to share with you.
Hustle & Flow
Embracing a Pivot Moment
Ever wondered what it takes to break free from stifling routines and transform your life? This week, Brad and Tiffany kickstarted their morning with a grueling workout and fondly recall their unique adventures in Grand Turk, complete with roaming donkeys. As they transition back to everyday life, they delve into the concept of pivoting—highlighting the importance of making those crucial changes when life feels stagnant. With references to '80s music and a hilarious "Friends" episode, they bring to life the significance of adaptability, all while eagerly anticipating the arrival of their grandson.
Find out how to align your actions with your true calling by listening to their engaging personal anecdotes, like the story of Dean Webb's bold shift from banking to pottery. Learn the importance of taking risks and avoiding overanalysis to lead a more fulfilling life. Brad and Tiffany emphasize that to move forward, sometimes you need to take inventory of your current situation and make daring changes, whether it's acquiring new skills or altering your social circles. Their practical advice underscores how crucial it is to avoid excuses and invest time wisely.
The episode also shines a light on inspiring stories of late-life pivots, with well-known figures who achieved success later in life, proving it's never too late to pursue your passions. The duo shares their own journey into podcasting, overcoming initial discomfort to find a sense of purpose. Wrapping up with a focus on strengthening relationships through positive changes, Brad and Tiffany offer heartfelt encouragement for anyone at a crossroads, urging listeners to embrace their pivot moments for renewed purpose and passion. Join the conversation and discover how to unlock the next chapter of your life.
Hey, good morning. Good morning. This is Brad and I'm with my beautiful wife, tiffany. We are the host of the Hustle Flow podcast and glad you're joining us this morning. Hey man, I don't know what kind of day you had already For us. It's about 9.30 in the morning and we went to the gym, had a terrible workout. It was awful, hot, gross, and then I had to run after, so I felt like I took a shower. Before I took a shower. It was pretty bad, but we're excited. This morning we're going to be discussing the term pivot. Now, pivot is a word that's going to encompass a whole lot, but we just want to talk about pivoting this morning, whether it's life, career or whatever it is. Good morning, tiffany. What's happening your way?
Speaker 2:Just trying to get adjusted to being back in the real world after vacation and, like you said, working out it was extra hard because being gone for 10 days and coming back, but vacation was fun. There was, you know, I haven't made a post about vacation. You're supposed to make a post when you get back from vacation, because everybody needs to know you went on vacation, absolutely, absolutely Flexing baby. Well, we don't really have any pictures. All the pictures are just at a different beach, you know every day, and so I've got to look through which beach pictures. But I think my favorite part of vacation was the donkeys, though. Yeah, yeah, I asked if we could adopt a donkey and I still yet to research why there was. We did a day day at grand turk. And um, there was donkeys, yeah, free roaming, free range donkeys everywhere. And um, and did the did grand turk by golf cart yeah, it was not, didn't take long to do the whole, the whole island.
Speaker 2:But um, I still need to find out. Like I'm, I don't, my mind is not satisfied yet until I find out why there were so many donkeys everywhere. Because nobody was using the donkeys and the donkeys were not tied up in anybody. Like I didn't see anybody's yard that had a donkey tied up, a pet donkey. So like I still need to know, why were there so many donkeys?
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, well, it was called Donkey Land. That Grand Turk is Donkey Land and I have no idea. I don't know if they were shipwrecked and all the donkeys swam over and now they're just populated. But you know, we'd seen the wild horses in North Carolina out on Corolla Beach or whatever that is. And so when I got there, like from a distance, we were on the golf cart and I said there's more wild horse, and you said that's donkeys, that's not wild horses. And so, anyway, yeah, it's uh man, you know how it is, coming back from vacation, like man, it was so fun. But then you're like we didn't get home till one o'clock, uh, sunday morning, and like just trashed, after flying all day and driving and you know we had a good time Went to Miami a couple of days.
Speaker 2:Miami's always. Every time we go to Miami I ask you like is there not some kind of business we can open so I can have a second little place to?
Speaker 1:live in Miami. Well, apparently we need to open the Parmesan cheese wheel business because it's everywhere. We got to do the Parmesan cheese wheel. It was pretty good and so, anyway, had a great time, glad to be back.
Speaker 1:We were concerned our oldest daughter's pregnant and she was due anytime and we said, look, do not have this baby while we're gone. And this is no joke. I was praying every day. I said God, look, show us favor. We need favor here. God, do not let our daughter have her baby without us being here, because I know it's important for her, for you to be in the room with her, as she's bringing our grandson, jb John Bradford, into the world. So she's being induced tonight and hopefully tomorrow we'll be able to give a little sugar to our new grandson. So excited about that, let's talk this morning. So we're going to jump in.
Speaker 1:We're going to talk this morning about pivot, and you know this thing has been on my mind a whole lot. It's one of those things that I think people they get stuck in their mind Is that you know, they call it a rut. They get in a rut or they get into a groove, or they get into a routine and they decide that this is their life for the rest of their life. And you know, there's a there's an old Skid Row song. I'm an eighties rocker, so, uh, you know I had the perm at one time, like I was rocking the rocking the perm and the parachute pants. You know what I'm saying? I was just a good old redneck listening to rock and roll music. But there was a song, skid Row, and I saw this meme about it the other day. But the song was 18 and Life and you know, of course it was more about him getting in trouble and he had to go away for 18 and Life. But I thought about that aspect of pivoting is that sometimes in your life you get locked in or you get trapped into something and it just becomes your life. And so I want to talk about that this morning when I talk about pivot.
Speaker 1:One of our favorite uh episodes or favorite things that we watch is what, friends, friends. And so what's the famous episode with Ross and Chandler? And I think it's uh, rachel, what are they doing? Remember the couch, the couch, yeah, the couch. So what happens? Come on, tell me, tell me about it.
Speaker 2:He starts, and when it's not working, he starts hollering pivot, pivot, yeah, pivot, pivot.
Speaker 1:And then finally, chandler just hollers shut up, shut up, shut up. And so they're trying to work it around a corner and it's not working. And so when I think about that, I always think about that. We actually went to New York I guess it was, was it last year, when we met and did the friends experience and you actually got to hold the couch on the on the stairs and the pivot experience and it was just stupid, just something fun. And of course they got to have a picture, and I'm I hate pictures, but anyway. So we had a good time with that. But here's the question I got can you change your life or are you stuck where you are?
Speaker 2:that's my question to you. Yeah, I mean I know that you can change your life and not be stuck, because you know and of course, for me, I love change I think change is the best thing ever. Like I'm, yeah, I mean, I love, I love change and I so I know you can change and not be stuck where you are, because I've changed directions multiple times, right?
Speaker 1:well and not just always changing directions, but adding layers to the direction I'm going to okay, explain that well, I mean, because that's that's, that's another tangent or another thought that maybe we can introduce.
Speaker 2:Because, even though, like I'm doing right now what I believe, I'm finally in my life, I think, doing what I'm called to do and what I'm gifted to do and what I'm good at doing, I'm also adding other layers to that of other things that I may be gifted to do and called to do, and not just staying with that one thing, that one dimension, right yeah.
Speaker 1:Okay, yeah, yeah, so multidimensional. Yes, it may be even in the calling or whatever it is that you feel like you found is multidimensional and multilayered. Okay, yeah, that makes sense. Yeah, I think that. I think that's it.
Speaker 1:Some people really don't think they can change their life. They feel stuck. And I run into people like that all the time man, like like I'm just stuck where I'm at. You know and I posted this not too long ago and it's something along these lines If you don't like where you're at, then you have to change. And it's real simple You've got to change something you're doing. If you don't like where you are, you've got to wake up tomorrow and do something different tomorrow than you did today. If you don't, your life will not be any different tomorrow night than it is today. And so you've got to have what we, what I called last night. We were talking. You got to have a pivot moment, or you've got to have a pivot year or pivot season. There's got to be something you're doing to move in a different direction, and so you don't have to, you don't have to stay stuck.
Speaker 1:Uh, you know and I wrote this down and that it that it's called life, not a life sentence. Yeah, god, the word of God said that he come to give you life, but not only life, but life more abundantly. And I think that sometimes we get stuck in life and we don't ever walk into an abundant life. And I'm not talking about, uh, god's going to drop a new bmw into your, into your, your house, tomorrow. You know he's not going to move you into a 50 million dollar mansion. He might, if he does great, invite me over. We're going to kick it. You know what I'm saying. But what I'm saying is, when you get into life, there's more than just that one thing that you can see. And here's what I've learned. I'm 52. I have learned that life is a long, winding road. It's a long, winding road and sometimes you'll go through patches. You can't see over the hill. That's one thing I hate. I hate not being able to see over the hill because I don't know what's coming on the other side.
Speaker 1:My mother, the other, my mother, god love her. She's the most dramatic person. I'm telling you she should have had, she should have won an emmy a long time ago. Like I love her, but it's the worst of the worst, or the best of the best, and and I talked to her and she said you know you're not going to believe the cops pulled up in our driveway the other day.
Speaker 1:And listen, they live in the country. Like the cops pull up in your driveway, you take notice? So there was a car pulled up in the driveway, two cops pulled in behind them, and so she proceeded to tell me that there was a hundred mile per hour chase through our little bitty town that I grew up in, on the on highway, and they turned off on their road and they you know the two hills getting to my mother's they were jumping those hills and so when I thought about that, that's one of those things I can't see over a hill, so I don't know what's coming sometimes, and and I think that when you don't know where the next turn is, or you don't know what's over the next hill, sometimes you're apprehensive and you don't want to make a change because it's a little bit scary, and so I think about that. So let's talk about let's just jump in, let's move. How can you pivot your life? Let's talk about how you start, maybe even what that looks like.
Speaker 2:I think you have to take an inventory of where you're at and ask yourself some of those questions. You know, am I being fulfilled right now where I'm at, and is this? It's really crazy, because I knew we were talking about this today and I showed you my devotional this morning.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that was crazy.
Speaker 2:And it was I'm doing a 365 day, like I do several of them on my Bible app, and one of them was Rick Warren that I'm doing 365.
Speaker 2:And today was actually about it was more about your job, which we won't be talking about, just your job, but you know he was saying that.
Speaker 2:Basically, his words were you know you're wasting the talents God gave you, you're wasting your abilities, you're wasting if you're not walking in that, in your job or in anything else that you're called to do. You know, if you, if you are making couches and that's what you resigned yourself to do is is make couches, but God gave you a gifting or calling even for you know, for music, for art, for you know helping people, then maybe it's time to evaluate okay, I know I'm gifted at helping people, so am I better served in the healthcare system using those abilities, or does God want me to make couches? You know, and there's nothing wrong if he told you to make couches, then make couches, of course, but I think you have to take an inventory of where you're at and say okay, what do I know to be true about myself? What am I good at, what am I not good at? You know I speaking of making couches. You know, I went and worked at a factory, yeah, okay.
Speaker 1:Tell them how long you worked there.
Speaker 2:Well, I didn't work long because they come to me and they I mean, and they said we love you so much, but you are not good at this, you're terrible. And if we could pay you to come and talk to us every day we would, but you're never going to make production. You are not good at factory work. Like girl, you got to go find something else to do. I don't know how old I was 18, 19.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:And I knew I wasn't good at it and they knew, of course, I wasn't good at it because I didn't make production I Like I don't know anything about that, I didn't. I mean, my career in factory work ended there. Because when somebody tells you not only like hey, we're going to lay you off, but hey, don't ever come back, you're not good at this, then I mean I was that lesson learned? But I think you have to take an inventory of where you're at and say, okay, like what am I good at and am I using that? I think that's a first step. And am I happy, right? I mean, and I know that, like we talk sometimes about, you know, happiness, you don't have to be happy, and we're not. But in this, what we're talking about today, yeah, I do think, because I think when you're using what you've been given, you can be happy.
Speaker 1:I think so, and I get that life is not always about riding the wave of happiness. It's just not. However, I will say this it's okay to be happy and it's okay to be happy with what you do. It's okay to enjoy your work, it's okay to enjoy whatever your calling is. You know, the Bible says that the calling and giftings of God are without repentance. That means here's what I've seen You've seen it before too is that whatever your gifting is, wherever you take that gifting, it works.
Speaker 1:Ok, if you have an oratorical gift, which which means if you're really good at speaking and you have the ability to have persuasion and maybe I'm just using this as an example Okay, nothing, nothing concrete, but maybe, maybe you were designed to to be a preacher Okay, you can also take that gift.
Speaker 1:If you don't want to use it in the church and I'm not saying you shouldn't, I'm saying, if you don't, you can take it into a courtroom and guess what that gifts to a works. Yeah, okay, but but I go back to you to say this is that you do have to find what you love and what you're passionate about. You know, you do have to find what you're passionate about, and everybody is passionate about something. There's something that just defines who you are. I think I asked you I don't even remember if we really got into it but what makes you tick, what's your thing? And everybody's got to discover that makes you tick, what's your thing? And everybody's got to discover that you have to identify and take an inventory of where you are, what you're passionate about, and you got to identify what you really want.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:I have seen this so many times. Men and women, the older they get, they just waffle like a fish out of water. They don't know what they want anymore. You know, especially dudes. Man dudes go through like a midlife I call it midwife crisis. They go through midwife midlife crisis and, and you know, they get tattoos. You know they, they, they cut. I got tattoos. I'm making a joke. They get tattoos, they start getting in. I don't know. They do stupid stuff because men want to be challenged and you know you and I have talked about that. Women I can't identify with a woman because I'm not one, but men need to be challenged and the older I get, the more challenged I need to be. That's why I do dumb stuff, that's why I need to have dumb stuff in my life, but also finding a passion and identifying. And that's the hardest thing sometimes.
Speaker 1:What do you want? One of my favorite movies and I'm a sap man, I'm a romantic movie guy Like most people. Look at me and think you're probably going to watch documentaries all the time about Goggins. I love Goggins, but I'm going to be honest with you. I love some Sweet Home Alabama. You can kiss me anytime you want. I love the Notebook man. The Notebook gets me all up in my fields when he goes and lays in that bed and tells her the story of their life. I'm like he gets me chilly right now.
Speaker 1:You know what I'm saying, and, and I think about that scene, though, where she'd been gone for a long time and she comes back and noah's built the house and she stays with him a few days and then she gets, she's got to leave, she's got to go back to her, her fiance, and they're out there and they're arguing what do you want? What do you want? What do you want? I don't know, and that's that's the whole point. Sometimes is that we have to really identify what we want, because we've got to find that, and when you find that, sometimes you can make a pivot, you can have a change. So what else do you need to do?
Speaker 2:pivot. You can have a change. So what else do you need to do? You know, I think when you do start trying to take an inventory of some of these things, then you I mean you can't, I don't think you can, you know, think it to death obviously.
Speaker 1:That's right.
Speaker 2:But then you know you can't get caught up in the past of well, I had to make couches. I've had to make couches all my life. I have never had a choice. Because you do have a choice and it's not too late to have, you know, to have a choice. You can do what you want to do. You can explore the things that you want to do.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you can. So you said it. It's never too late to make a change, right? Ok, let's talk about a couple of people just off the top of your head. You know we were talking to somebody last night. You want to talk? A good, a good friend of ours.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so it's. You know, when we were talking about pivoting just different people. We were talking about people that we don't know, that are famous, that made pivots, but you know locally, the first person that come to mind was dean webb. Dean made a huge pivot in his life.
Speaker 2:If you are from this area, you've heard of midnight pottery right but before midnight pottery you may not have known who dean webb was and that dean webb. You know what bank he worked at and what his job there was. But Dean Webb made a pivot in his life. He was you know, I remember Dean because I was actually a waitress and worked at a restaurant that served lunches. And I remember Dean coming in with his banker friends in his suit and all dressed up. And then Dean made a huge pivot in his life and decided he was going to do pottery, yeah, and opened Midnight Pottery. If I remember right, it used to be out huge pivot in his life and decided he was going to do pottery and opened midnight pottery, if I remember right, it used to be out off of um, off the highway there.
Speaker 2:It was out in Auburn, yeah, and so then, um, you know, then I don't, I don't know if his next location I think it was his final location was there, you know, on Gloucester, by blue canoe, um, and, and built such a thriving business, completely different from banking, because the two, I don't think, hardly have anything in common, but I'm sure that had to be scary, maybe even scary to his family. I don't know for him to come home and say hey guys, this corporate job that I have, where I go to work in a suit every day, I'm not going to do that. I'm going to grow a really long beard and I'm going to make pottery. Now, that's what we're going to do.
Speaker 1:I respect it, dean. I respect it man.
Speaker 2:I've loved every time I've been around his wife, but I would have loved to have been a fly on the wall too, to when he said, hey, this is what I'm going to do, this is it.
Speaker 1:Well, see, I've known his wife for a while, christy. I've known her for a while because we all, you know she's a little bit older than I was in school, but I've known her, so I can imagine how that went, but I've always respected that and I've always. We got to know Dean because we'd all go hang out, like not together, but we'd see him at places and talk to him, and so that was a huge pivot, huge pivot. And it was funny because, like you said, when he talked to his family, it brought back a memory to us 2006,.
Speaker 1:We've had several pivot moments in our life, but one of them, specifically, was I was selling for Cisco Foods and you had started doing real estate and I got my license, and so we just said, hey, we're going to do this full time. And so we set our kids down. Our kids were I don't know, they were young, and we set them around the table and said, hey, we're going to dad's going to quit his job and we're going to go sell real estate full time. And you remember what one of the kids said yeah, I think it was our son.
Speaker 1:Our son. What did he say?
Speaker 2:Are we going to be poor now?
Speaker 1:Are we going to be poor again, are we?
Speaker 2:going to be poor again, okay.
Speaker 1:And of course my answer was no, and I'm thinking I don't know. You know what I mean. I have no idea. This is a pivot moment here, maybe maybe not.
Speaker 1:I don't know thing. When it comes to to pivoting, you absolutely can overanalyze the heck out of stuff. One of us in our relationship is an overanalyzer and gets paralyzed because they have to have the perfect time to do things and the perfect storm and situation. And the other one's like, hey, let's go do it, and uh I'm not gonna say who that is, but it's tiffany and uh, so you can't overanalyze always. Sometimes you've got to pivot when the pivot is there, right.
Speaker 1:The other thing I think is you can't make excuses. You know, I think in our day and time because we were, we were just talking about somebody that had just made some excuses on our way here, and in this day and time it is so easy to make an excuse. I can't do it. And in this day and time it is so easy to make an excuse I can't do it, I can't do this and I can't do that. And the thing that I hate I've read this lately a whole bunch is that I don't have a choice. Well, you do have a choice. Now, I understand everybody's. You know you want to come at me? Great, come on. But for the most part you have a choice and it may not be what happens to you, but it's how you respond. You have a choice, and so excuses is one of those things. You can't pivot if you make excuses all the time.
Speaker 1:Yeah you absolutely can. The other thing is, you got to broaden your skillset. Now what does that look like for you, like we were talking the other day for you, what does that look like? You need to broaden your skill set. How do you do that? What do you need to do just for somebody like you?
Speaker 2:Well, for somebody like me, I don't know. But I mean, I think you talking about conversation I was talking to someone who was applying for a job and they're not. They weren't sure if they're going to get it or not, because they didn't know all the things they needed to know and I said, okay, well, if you don't get it this time, then you know from the questions they're asking you that you didn't feel like you knew what. All you got to go learn.
Speaker 2:So that when an opening comes up again. You've learned those things, those systems and those programs Like, and so if there's something that you want to do, it's time to get on YouTube. Look at classes somewhere. You know, what is it that you're going to need to know Because now you know. You say it's easy to make excuses, but it's also kind of ridiculous to make excuses in this day, and age.
Speaker 1:Say that, say it.
Speaker 2:Because there is knowledge everywhere about whatever it is you want. You know that, you want to know. You know I'm not ashamed to admit that caramel cake is my nemesis. It is very hard for me to get the icing right, but you know there is information out there now. You know, used to 15 years ago we had all recipes. There was nobody as much cooking all this stuff everywhere for us to watch every step. So I watch TikToks, I watch YouTube. I do everything because I you know me when it comes to desserts, like I don't want it to be good, I want it to be perfect, I want it to be the best, and so I'm in search of like, whatever it is.
Speaker 2:I've got a tweak to make my recipe perfect, but I have no excuse for anything cooking wise. If I want to take my knowledge up, you know a level. If you want to learn a language so that you can apply for a job that requires you to you know to, to be bilingual like there's just no excuses for so much of this now. If you want to pivot and do something else in your life, absolutely, classes, even classes are offered now at night and on Saturdays for programs. People apply to work for me that are in a Saturday program for certain things. Honestly, to me it's a little harder to make an excuse.
Speaker 1:And that's good, because there is zero really excuse to not be able to learn new skills. And I was thinking about being bilingual and that's one of the things that I've tried before and probably, to be honest with you, I wasn't very diligent. I learned a few things. So you know, you can get on Babbel I know that's conversational learning but you can get on there for like $66 for the year, but man, I can't spend $66 to learn a new language.
Speaker 2:But if you can't, then there's a guy on tiktok, and every day he teaches you a word.
Speaker 1:He says no way, is that the parody guy?
Speaker 2:no, it's okay, there's a. There's a guy I follow. He's hispanic and every day he teaches you a word and he shows you what that word is like. You get a visual, you hear it. He says so it's free.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but again, I go back to I don't want to spend $66, but we'll go spend $50 to eat. Yeah, you know, and it really it's an excuse of learning a new skill and I think that that matters, you know. The other thing is you got to change your bubble of friends. I can just tell you right now if you're not advancing and you're not going the places you want to go, there's a good chance you need to look around and say, huh, who am I being influenced by? Who is in my circle? And you might need to change your circle.
Speaker 1:Now, I know that's hard, because if you've been homies for life, you know what I'm saying. Like I've been friends with people for a long time, life, you know what I'm saying. Like I've been friends with people for a long time. But if they're not really, you know, do what? What is it there's? If you're hanging around four deadheads, you're the fifth one and uh, and my kids hate that term, deadhead, but I use it as an old man but but I'm saying you might need to change your bubble. I need to change your, your, your friends, any other things there that just pop out to you.
Speaker 2:Well, I mean, you know we we've talked about sometimes you have to change, change your routine up a little bit. If you need to pivot but you can't do that because you are in situations to where you still got to be doing whatever you're doing, then you have to change your routine up a little bit. What does you know? What does that look like? You know? Um, that's some of something that comes to mind to me. You've got to do things a little different. That's a very old you know to have things you never have. You've got to. What is it?
Speaker 1:Do things you've never done Do things you've never done.
Speaker 2:So yeah, you have to sometimes just change up that a little bit.
Speaker 1:You may have to cut Netflix off for a while or Hulu, and just do something to learn, yeah, and change. You got to change things. And I think that's the crux of this whole thing is, when you pivot is that you have to change something. If you want something different, you got to do something different. That's just the way it is. And and and. I like these, and I'm going to use a couple of examples here. People like, well, I mean, I'm just too old, you know, I'm kind of just stuck here and I'm almost at retirement, I'm almost at whatever, and I'm just going to cruise this bad boy in. And I think about some of these people that I'm going to call out.
Speaker 1:Everybody knows Betty White. Betty White man, she is an icon, golden Girl. She's a funny old lady. You know she passed away recently, but everybody loved Betty White. But did you know that Betty White didn't break in until she was 51? She made her first appearance on the Mary Tyler Moore show at 51. So the back half of her life was bad versus the first part. Everybody knew Betty White when she passed away and everybody loves Betty White. I didn't know this one Duck and Hines Duck and Hines cake mix. He was 55 years old. That was a man, duncan Hines, duck and Hines Duck. I don't know, you know this, you cook. I have no idea, but Duck and Hines 55 years old. And he didn't start with cake mix. He started with a publication called Good Eating in America. People asked him say, hey, where's a good place to eat in America? He published a book and he sold them for a dollar. But he's 55 years old. How about Ray Kroc? Everybody know Ray Kroc. No, yes, you do, mcdonald's.
Speaker 2:That's his name. I always thought it would be something like Bob McDonald, like Sam Walton.
Speaker 1:Well, ray Kroc wasn't the founder of McDonald's. The McDonald's was in San Bernardino. The first one was in San Bernardino, california, and he met them. Ray Kroc was a milkshake maker seller, so he'd go try to sell milkshake machines and he met the McDonald people and so he bought his first from McDonald's franchise when he was 52 years old. And the rest is history. How about Julia Child? You know Julia Child? Yeah, 50 years old. 50 years old when she published her first cookbook. So you're still on track. I'm still on track. Still on track. How about Grandma Moses? You know Grandma Moses, famous painter? You know when she started painting? 78 years old?
Speaker 2:Wow.
Speaker 1:You know why she started painting? Because she had a pivot moment. Her arthritis had gotten so bad that she couldn't embroider these scenes anymore. I don't know whatever that is. She could not do that anymore. So one of her friends said hey, why don't you paint those scenes? She became famous after that.
Speaker 1:Colonel Sanders everybody knows KFC. 62. 62., 62. How about Martha? How about Martha Stewart? Everybody knows Martha Stewart. Yeah, but you know she was a stockbroker and she was a model before she opened her first catering company in her 40s. That crazy, yeah. How about Nelson Mandela? Everybody know Nelson Mandela. If you don't, you need to watch the movie. It's a really, really good movie. He spent 27 years in jail, but then he got elected 75 years old. I'm telling you, it is never too late to make a pivot. It's never too late to have a pivot moment Because you get intertwined. Sometimes your identity gets wrapped up into what you do. Sometimes and this is this is who I am Men are famous for this. When a man meets another man, they say hey, what's up? And what's the first question men ask?
Speaker 2:What do you do? What do you do yeah?
Speaker 1:You know why? Because they want to know what level of respect do I need to give you? Where do you fall in the respect line? Because men get identity based on what they do and that's just stupid, just to be quite honest. That's stupid Because when you fall in love with what you do and you're passionate about what you do, and those gifts and those callings, man, they just scream out. It's not about money, it ain't about fame, it ain't about fortune, it's about walking in the very thing that you were created to do. And I'm excited about that. I'm excited about pivoting. And you know, I told you the other day we were talking look, I'm not done, I'm 52. I'm not done. Podcasting for us was a pivot, yeah, huge pivot, you know because, because I don't mind talking, that's just kind of one of my things, but I have to pull it out of you sometimes, you know, and it's uncomfortable for you to be behind this microphone at times. But we've pivoted, we've gotten more comfortable.
Speaker 2:These are just things that we're doing, so well, it's funny, because you know um I can talk but I can chase rabbits.
Speaker 2:So the hard part for me is to is to stay on track with whatever we're talking about today and not talk about something else. But you know, even with this as as some people would probably think, that like this is just so easy for me, the fear in doing this was I don't like negative feedback and I know the more you put yourself out there with things, and that's, you know, one of the things. I met with my business coach and we've got a plan, had a plan for me, and that's one of the things I said is like, the more I put myself out there, I it'll, I'm afraid it's gonna.
Speaker 2:I've gotten tougher being in business for myself that's right but I know it'll hurt my feelings sometimes if somebody just says something so mean. So for me you talk about fears with different things, like I'm not. I wasn't necessarily, you know. One of the things is well, anybody listen? Does anybody care? What we have to say was just the mean people said I don't want to. You know, I don't want to do it because of the mean people. So with anything I think you are going to have, you're going to have on your cons list when you're making your pros and cons, you're going to have some cons and for me, like for this, like I said, it's like you know mean people but because the mean people don't bother you as much, I care less, like I want to be mean back, but I've really always tried to take the high road, because trolls are going to come out of the bridge and from under the bridge.
Speaker 1:that's just what trolls do, because they're unhappy with their own life and they're just going to troll you and and and the truth is, is that nobody really cares? Yeah, you know and that's.
Speaker 2:But the thing is is that, yeah, nobody cares. But if you, I can tell you that on a weekly basis, and especially about certain topics, somebody will message me that I don't even talk to often or whatever, and it always makes me like it makes it, makes it makes that week worth it, you know, because you think, ok, that's why we're doing what we do. But if I would have listened to that, then I wouldn't have people that say, like what you said about marriage, this week We've been practicing that and it's helped us so much. Or what you said about business, like I've been stuck opening a business and I didn't know the next, like that that helps so much, and so like, if, if we, if you don't pivot sometimes and you let those excuses and reasons and fears and all the reasons you shouldn't on the con list, you just don't, you have no idea what could be on the other side.
Speaker 1:Absolutely, and that's a really good place to stop right. There is that man. If you've got something in your heart and listen, I'm not telling you to be foolish, okay, but I'm telling you you may very well have a pivot moment coming in your life and I will say this I don't know that they happen often Sometimes. Sometimes that pivot moment moves on and you miss it. I'm not saying something, don't come back around on the other side, but I'm telling you you need to pay attention and you need to be cognizant of a pivot moment when it comes around, because when it comes around, that's your chance, man. You jump right into it.
Speaker 1:You know, I'm thinking about my man, Michael, right here. I don't know that probably when he was shooting basketball back in the day and breaking ankles, said that he thought I'm going to pastor that church one day. But pivot bang, here we are and it's and it's blowing and it's going, it's doing great and the testimonies coming out of this thing is awesome, because he walked into his pivot moment. And so I don't know today, as we get ready to close, I'm not sure where you are. If you're listening I'm telling you you're not done. You may have only just began.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:You may feel like that. You're at the bottom of the ladder, looking up, but I can tell you that one pivot moment in your life will change everything, that thing that God may be put in your heart, or whatever it is that you're talented or gifted or passionate about. I'm telling you pivot, find a way to pivot, and your whole life can change. Any final thoughts.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and I think when you do that, when you start finding those things, you just have a renewed sense of purpose.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:And you wake up excited and not just you know I've got to go do this thing that I don't like today or whatever, or I don't like my life. Like you have a renewed sense of purpose and passion when you find those things Absolutely.
Speaker 1:Absolutely Well. Hey, thank you so much for listening today. We love spending time with you. Hey, listen, if you're on Spotify, if you're on Apple podcast or anything like that, we'd appreciate a five-star review, maybe even some kind words there. Anything you could do would help us. We would really appreciate it and thank you so much for that. We do want to say this hey, listen, tiffany and I are putting on a marriage conference. You can find that link I'll post it later on our page and on our personal pages. But we put on a marriage conference the first week of September and it's a good time. We had a great conference last year. We've got some great people lined up Scott Dooley and Heather Dooley, if you know, coach Dooley from East Union he yells at everybody, he's intense, but he's a great guy.
Speaker 1:Him and his wife have been married a long time, got great stories. Tiffany and I have got a session and we've got another couple that's got a session coming, and so I just would encourage you you can look for that. If you need help in your marriage, that's a good place to pivot.
Speaker 2:Or if you don't need help, or if you don't need help, but still Just need to make it better.
Speaker 1:Absolutely. Hey, listen, we do want to encourage you that if you find yourself not going the way you want to go, find people who are going the way you want to go and hop in there and flow with them and you will find what you're looking for. Thank you so much for listening. Have a great morning. Outro Music.
