Lottery Time

On this episode of Them Guys Podcast, we dive into the madness of the NBA Lottery and break down all the biggest storylines coming out of the NBA Combine. We debate who helped their draft stock rise, who may have hurt themselves, and which prospects could shock everybody on draft night by climbing up the board or taking a major fall. We also give our takes on which players may need another year in college and who looks ready for the league right now. We also get into the latest situations surrounding Stefon Diggs and Tyreek Hill, discussing the headlines, media reactions, and what these situations could mean moving forward. Plus, we recap the NBA Playoffs with reactions to the biggest games, standout performances, playoff disappointments, and our updated predictions on who’s really built to win a championship this season. 

Transcript

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Welcome to Them Guys Podcast. The only podcast that comes from a real perspective with my homie. AC. And the one and only Greatness.

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MJ.

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And it's your boy Lim. And you know it's about that time. About that time. It's draft time. You know what the draft will be talking about? AJ. Number one pick right here.

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No, not number four pick.

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Number four pick? Yeah, we want AJ to go. Number four pick. Fuck the number four pick. No, you want AJ to go number four, boss. So we got the draft coming up, right? So what's uh who we think is gonna be the first pick for like the Wizards, which I think is like a I don't know who allowed that to go. AJ the best pick. He the best fit. He the best fit. You see, he was trying to tank a little bit in the shoot around in the combine. It seemed like he wasn't really trying to like make shots and shit.

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Nigga, you see his face when Washington got the first pick. That nigga like he was about to be crying like that.

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It could have been Utah. It could have been Utah. I know he with all that Mormon BYU shit, but. I think this is where you want to go, though.

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I think he wants to go to Utah, though. Yeah, he's a goofy.

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Look, they invested in him in the school, okay?

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Jazz gave that money up.

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He went to the college. You know what I'm saying?

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So white girls looked out for.

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There's more money to make on the East Coast, man.

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There's more money to make in Chicago.

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You gotta make, you gotta, you gotta play the Knicks. You gotta play Philadelphia. You gotta play Boston. So your name's gonna be out there. Who the fuck? Jazz ain't getting no TV games. They will with him, though. You know how many top picks they got in the past few years, man. Yeah, he'd be the top, but the top picks don't. People thought Donovan Mitchell was a myth. He was the cleans. I heard about this guy. Donovan Mitchell.

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He doesn't exist. I let you. I was a good one. I was a good one.

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I mean, I I the city has embraced them. You know, the state has embraced them. I think that's where you want to go, man. You gotta go where you love. I I I just don't know what they're gonna figure out the fidangulum to the second pick. I guess they're gonna figure something out.

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No, they uh Peterson wanna go number one, though.

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Who I don't think Peterson should even be talked about no more.

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Peterson wants to go number one.

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What'd he say? He crapped his body. Meaning he finessed, he finessed Kansas, but you know, it is what it is. He I wouldn't, you can't go wrong with him going number one. I don't think he's number one. I just think just because I think because it's the Wizards, I think it's a good fit for him going, AJ going number one. Because I think him being with So they got Trey Johnson, they got another guy that could play a shooting guard that's pretty decent on the Wizards. You got Trey Young.

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What do you got a nice thing? Trey Young, Anthony Davis?

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Yeah. They tank this year. Yeah, they got some good young players. They just injury prone. Trey Johnson.

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I'm finna mess up the show though. Tell me who you think is gonna be the bus. I ain't gonna say bus, because that's negative. You're trying to be a positive. Who's gonna be the worst of the top four? You know the top four? Edison, AJ.

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It's hard to say who's gonna worse, who's gonna get, who's gonna get who's ever going to Chicago's gonna get fucked. This motherfucker, man. Where the fuck we go? Let's be for real. Where the bull is going? How's the bulls organization? Go ahead and tell me.

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We just got that boy uh tell me how the organization.

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You got a black man. We got new management.

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You just tell me new management. How's how do you see the team going? We get Wilson, we in there. Yeah. It's gonna be like D rolls back in the Who else you got?

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It got really quiet in this motherfucker.

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We got the pedophile.

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He likes touching small balls. You know what I'm saying?

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It's bad when the coach said, you know what, I think I'm just gonna get up out of here. Yeah. You're not fighting.

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I'm just gonna get up out of here. You think Wilson's gonna uh go down to us?

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I don't want us to grab boots.

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I think that's what we're gonna end up doing. Well, that's like a Chicago thing. Wilson's probably going number four. If it's Chicago, they always either you either you beat Duke or you Wilson's going number two and number four. It's so weird. He's got to go number two and number four. I think Brooklyn's probably gonna get booed. Well, not Brooklyn. He's gonna be number two. He could go number two. I don't see him going number two. Utah, Utah's just gonna get whatever they can bring people in. Young Bulls. Because Utah got everything.

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Filon?

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No, the Full. He's from Alabama, my bad. Arkov. Arkov, yeah. They got him going to two. I think they got him going to Brooklyn.

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I would like the Bulls to drive him over Boozer, though. Even though we got a million point guards. Well, you gotta think about it. I don't want to drive Boozer. I think he's gonna be a Buzz.

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The Bulls don't have a million point guards.

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We do. You got Giddy.

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A lot of the Giddies could play shooting guards.

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We got the crazy man Sexton. We got Sexton free agent.

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Oh, let his ass go then. There's a lot of people the Bulls picked up to be free agent. That was a man, he came from Kentucky. What's the kid? Kentucky. Dillon. Dylan Ham. Dylan Helm. Dylan Ham's uh. Is he a free agent too? No. No. Dylan Ham, you know, he could be a solid point guard. Yeah, he'd be a good back.

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He should bring back Ivy. Nigga had quiet. Nigga had choir, boy. Who had choir when I brought out Jade?

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He better go play for his mama at Notre Dame, boy. Man, he can't even play in the Church League, man. That's crazy, man. So I guess you were speaking of like busts. Who do you think right here that out of like the whole draft, you think who's not really ready to actually be in that game? Let me go. Let me go first.

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That was Illinois. I don't like his game, man. I ain't like his game in college. What's his name? Waggler. I ain't like this game in college. Waggler Houston, though. But he wasn't a man in Illinois, though. It's all about how you play sometimes. But I'm saying he took he wasn't. He was the man. He was not the man. Oh, cuz. Who's the man? Uh Pager kid.

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No, he wasn't.

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Having the time Pager came off the bench. Nah, but he was the better scorer. Everybody else was. Wagler was the leading score. I just, I know he was, though, but I just expected more from him, though. You know what I'm saying? From Keen Wagley? To be a top five pick. Hold on. He supposed to be a top five pig.

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How are you going to expect somebody that wasn't on the radar in the beginning? No one expected anything from him. He wasn't a top guy. He wasn't a top guy coming in.

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He worked. So you say he worked his ass off to get up. At Illinois. You knew he was at Illinois. You knew that name before he came to Illinois? But I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't believe he's going to be a talent in the NBA. Watching this game, though, through a Marsh Madness. He has to No, I'll take that back. He has to find a fit. Like Austin Rivers said. He got to find a fit that's for him.

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I like why he might be a start there. I think one person that gotta go back just because, not because his game was horrible, because he wasn't able to show a lot. And if he shows a lot this year, he could be a number one draft pick, Mikhail Brown.

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Ooh, yeah.

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From Louis Brown. Brown was good. He spent a lot of time injured.

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Brown was good. I saw his combo, though. Uh his combine. I think he'll get first round pick, though.

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Oh no, he's a top pick. Right. But I think if he went back to school, he could actually be a number one pick.

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He won't be the number one pick.

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Huh?

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Arena skid is gonna be the number one pick next year. Man, you never know. Nah, you smoking dope. You never know. You never know. So you don't believe Arena Skid is gonna be the first pick?

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I don't, I I gotta see him play more than whatever games he played. He averages like a big thing. Nigga he had a car accident, nigga.

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Exactly.

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I can't guess. So we expect I think he's gonna have an awesome season, man. I think he's gonna explode and be like. That's what I'm going by. If he was able to, if he was to go back to Louisville healthy, I think he'll take that reign still because it's not like he was ranked lower than Arena's kid and just, you know, just playing. Yeah, I just think if he came back, I think he had a chance to be the number one pick. Good season for injury season, but he still should be a lottery pick. But I think if he actually went back to school, I think he'd be a top pick. I mean like number one, number two pick. I'm gonna go with with the kind of the hometown kid, the Illinois kid, old boy from Michigan, Johnson. What's his first name? More Johnson? What's his first name? Morez. Morez Johnson. Now I seen Morez Johnson all the way back when he was like in St. Rita when he was playing my homie's nephew out there in Mount Carmel. Shout out to him. I seen him in college, and I just think he's almost there to being like a potential, like, he could be like a top five draft pick. But right now, I know he, every interview I seen him, it seemed like he wanna just get that money and get out of here. But I think one more year, he can be like the like a like a second pick, you know, third pick, you know. Second leader score on Michigan, you gotta go. Almost 14 points, almost eight rebounds on the team that shared the ball. Yeah, you gotta go. I guess, man. I don't know. I think they they can run it back, man. I think he finished, what, was it second or third for what, power fours and three-pointers at the combine? Yeah. Hitting 17 out of 20 or some shit like that, somewhere in the like. 20 out 19. How much work you put in that when nobody got a hand on your bitch? Yeah, okay. Ronnie averaged two, what, five points in college. I think they gave him five. I mean, I don't think it's no rush. I mean, think about like Al Hoffer when he was in Florida and stuff like that. They ran it back and, you know, it still was like top drive picks and stuff.

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So Brewer would have been a top three pick if he didn't fucking go back. Doing that Florida Florida.

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That's what happens when you get paid more in college than you do in the NBA. And that's the thing. I think they're getting paid so much with the rush. You getting paid at the to be in college.

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The rush is that bag, that fifth-year bag when you make that extension. Oh, that's why. That $250 for five years what Austin Reed's gonna get. That's what it is. And I oh, while we on that, the NBA is fucking up, G. Hands down. I should have to go to fucking Peacock, Amazon Prime, ESPN Plus to watch a basketball game, man.

SPEAKER_03 10:29

You just get cable. Like, I mean. No, nigga, you can get it. Even if you got cable, they still go in that shit.

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You gotta go to fucking Amazon to watch a basketball game.

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So who doesn't have cable in the game? Exactly. You know me.

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He got a fire stick box. That's what he got.

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Yeah.

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And I might be selling those in the coming weeks, so yeah, I think I agree with you.

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You shouldn't have to go through Leafsabell and watch a basketball game, but that just tells you who's paying for what now. Well, man. This is ridiculous. Amazon Prime is taking up every fucking thing. Amazon took it up, yeah. They go to the doctor no more. Netflix, Amazon, you name it. They got the money.

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Only thing Amazon doing good though is the uh betting on the side. Y'all, y'all ever did that?

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Yeah, I saw that now. I see the mother on the side.

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That's the best thing they got, though. Because I'm fucking telling James Harden to get another fucking turnover because he's turnover battle.

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Hey, let's put this camera on me for. I'm doing me like my guy MJ, so put the camera on me. You think James Harden is still better than Dwayne Wade after like 50 fucking turnovers in 10 games. And I'm not exaggerating. You really smoking some shit. You're not even cracked. You're on the hero. You on the heroin. They go for you. I'm gonna shot. Trig. Tremaine. Tremaine. That goes for you. That goes for you. He's not even better than AI. He's dropping slowly on my list. If you can't perform in the playoffs, your season don't matter for shit.

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That's a fact.

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What's the point of going when you just gonna be there? He had a good game yesterday.

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But you know game six and seven, that nigga gonna flip.

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Oh, he had a good game yesterday. Six turnovers.

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Six and seven, though. I need a one more turnover. I need a one more turnover. I might not be here today.

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So speaking of uh that, uh, what's our finals prediction now since you know it's it's narrowing down, you know. Who we who we got? I know me personally, I think it's gonna be like New York and OKC. I'm hoping for OKC in New York. I'm hoping. Yeah. I don't need that terrible Midwest shit like last year. Indiana and OKC. What the fuck? That shit was a Big Ten game and shit.

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Mondo, I need my solo. This is for my uncle and my little sister. I'm telling y'all right now, I need my money. Alright? Because San Antonio's going to the finals. Alright. They believe in this SGA cat, the most zestiest team ever in the NBA. Lim is gonna cut it. Cut the uh video right here, Lim. Boom.

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Alright. That's when the zest is gonna float down. I gotta say one thing, Mike, Zesty. All them motherfuckers are zesty on the league. But keep on going.

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And it's gonna be the Knicks. I don't care who the Knicks play. That boy Carl Anthony Towns, I don't know what that Jordan Woods is doing to him, G. He's Zesty the moment.

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He was Zesty before him. But he really hooping on that.

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Brunson. But he's really hooping on now. They got the pick and roll with him and Brunson, and then Cat's getting like six or six. And that's another thing you want to bet on. Cat getting more than five or six a game. Unstoppable. I've been winning every time assist. Every time. He's not he's not missing.

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Big man gotta pass the ball if he could. Never mind.

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But but the problem is Brunson, though, they depend on him. No, but you can't depend on him so much at the end of the games, though. Cause San Antonio or OKC can stop that at the end. The Cavaliers don't have anybody to stop him in the fourth quarter. Who's gonna put on him? What's the white boy's name? Strutz. Struts? No. You can't put Donovan on him because that's gonna bring out his energy. You know what I'm saying?

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No, I've been playing. You gotta bench Hardy and put shoulder in the fucking game.

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That's terrible. And Shoulder kept him in the game at the first quarter. He was balling. You gotta put shoulder in the game.

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That's crazy. Harden might perform. Harden that much of a liability that he got benched. That motherfucker. And what? Hey, all these niggas. The era's over, man. LeBron on him. Because my whole thing is it's no diss to Harden. You need a motherfucker that's gonna turn over the ball less. Yeah, he's gonna get his buckets. But if you want, if you see, there's a reason why these games are close. A motherfucker should be dropping 43, 34, and Mitchell, and the game just be tight close. Why is it tight close? Because your second best player. Throwing seven turnovers a game. It's ridiculous. That's if that ends up being a score every time, that's 12 points. That's 45.

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Hey, I don't want to jump topics though. But should that lil guy go there? Libera. Should go to Cleveland next year.

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Go back to Cleveland? Yeah, he's gonna go back to Cleveland. I think he should go to the Clippers. Clippers of Houston.

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He's scared Savannah's gonna get some moat.

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Savannah's gonna get some what? Why not? Why not finish the ship? You think Savannah getting dick now, nigga? Why not finish off with a race?

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But she's scared because LeBron said that she got the little baby. Siri still there and all that. LeBron going to Cleveland, she got all the dicks she wants, then. You know what I'm saying?

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Because it's just easy to cheat because what do you think? I'm just saying. I think he should go to the Clippers right next door. Or go to Houston. With Kawhi. Yeah. Pick, just go with Kawhi or go with.

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Is KD still gonna be in Houston, Ohio? Yeah. He ain't gonna take it back to LA, man. No, he gotta go to state, boy. He ain't gonna go to the state. He's gonna take that minimum.

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He's gonna stay his podcast in LA. Yeah, I just stay. He wants a farewell tour. That's shit over with. They want to throw the powder in there and on his ass and all that great stuff. You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_04 16:15

He's not staying in LA. He wants to retire. That's Lucas team now.

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Clippers or the Rockets.

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That's Lucas team now.

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Clippers or the Rockets. And they gotta actually play on the team to be his team.

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I'm gonna tell you this, Mondo, you already know.

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Well, he got them.

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Lucas could have came back this year. He didn't want to. He was like, fuck this. I want that old, I want that old N-word gone. So it's gonna become my team. Me and Austin Rivers.

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Yeah, Lucas called the N-word. You mean Austin Rivers? Austin Rivers.

SPEAKER_04 16:42

Reeves. Reeves. Oh, Reeves. I got Austin. I've been seeing it, sending these guys Austin Rivers memes all week. I apologize.

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Hey, another thing. The biggest bitch move I seen in sports lately. I can't believe this motherfucker AR. He can't be called AR-15 no more. That's to call him the power with the fucking refs at the end of the game. Oh, yeah, yeah. Just to get dog walked the next fucking year. He was talking shit to the rest. He let the refs know. Look, hey, you keep calling that motherfucking bullshit. And you know what happened next year? He got his ass dog walked.

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The ref fucked him. He said something that AR should have snapped about, but he let it slide, though. That was the problem.

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Yeah, right, motherfucker. Who you think your name?

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Your name ain't Luca O'Bron, don't talk to me.

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All right. He's like, hey, it's not a white man's league. Get out of my face.

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I ain't seen these more whites. I ain't seen so many whites like this since the KKK meeting. That man being a little bit.

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That motherfucker turned into a Karen on camera. He definitely was carrying it up on camera. I said, that man powow with the rest after the game.

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And LeBron just like the fucking uh motherfucking Django. Samuel Jackson character. Oh. Tell him. You tell him, sir.

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You tell him, sir. Hey, we're gonna be real about this. You know me. I'm not the greatest LeBron fan, but I'm gonna say one thing. That motherfucker knew he was gonna lose. He didn't give a fuck. He just sat there like. We gonna lose anyways, goddammit. You know what I mean? Exactly. Aiden can't catch shit. Luca Pussy hurt. Hoochie Mama turns it on every other other game.

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The little Asian black guy, he was killing.

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Hoochie Mama turns it on every other other game.

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Deontay, I was saying Beyonce. What's this?

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Brick Brick Fingers. He can't catch shit.

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Aiden was terrible. He got that chain then. The biggest weak ass moistenite shit.

SPEAKER_03 18:34

Marcus Smart did was act like he got shot every play, every time somebody bumped it to him, arms flying up in the air, flying.

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You don't even know one of the motherfucking crips gonna uh blood's gonna stick him up for that chain. That shit gone.

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They're gonna kill him when they finally have all that moist night in that motherfucking thing. They're gonna tell me, pass me the chain, he's gonna fumble that bitch too. But anyway, so here's here's an uncomfortable question I want to ask you guys. If OKC actually wins another championship this year, could we consider them actually a dynasty? Did they go to the semifinals the year prior to the winning? Against Denver? Did they go again? Who went to the semis? Did he go to the semis? The year before? No, no, never mind. That was Minnesota and the Mavericks. They on their way to it. It's back to back. Yeah, they're on the way to it. I want to call them a dynasty.

SPEAKER_04 19:25

Fuck you talking about. Can't stand you two niggas sometimes.

SPEAKER_03 19:29

I'm just saying. Shut your ass. We're in a microwave society. If these niggas win again, you know, they're gonna be trying to fucking rape.

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San Antonio got a seven five ass nigga, G.

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That question that was made. He could break it anytime.

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I'll tell you this. The nigga that snapped too, G. He elbowed the shit out the nigga. He was aiming for his face.

SPEAKER_03 19:47

The question that was put out there, if they have. If they win or the game.

SPEAKER_04 19:53

I told them the dumb ass shit in the first place to bring it up. Ain't no dynasty unless they win, too. That's when you can ask the question. They won't win.

SPEAKER_03 20:02

If they if they win.

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But I'm telling you no. I'm sorry, Mondo. I was too loud. I apologize.

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Goddamn. I apologize. So if they win, I don't think they're on their way to be in the dynasty. They're on their way.

SPEAKER_04 20:16

So two championships of the dynasty now?

SPEAKER_03 20:18

Did you just hear what I just said? They're on their way, meaning they ain't there yet. One thing I can say about Oklahoma, though, like, they wanted the kind of one of the smartest franchises. They had already had three Hall of Famers, three MVP candidates leave and still was able to build a championship team. I mean, you gotta give them. Who's the uh president? I forgot his name.

SPEAKER_04 20:38

Sam Presley.

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Sam Presley. I need to get some type of award or some type of bonus. Yeah, it's called he still got a job. Yeah, I mean, yeah, that's true. That's good enough in the NBA. Yeah. See, as soon as you win the war, you get fired. Like when you win coach of the year.

SPEAKER_04 20:54

And that's fucked up coach coast of the year, is out the playoffs now.

SPEAKER_03 20:59

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 21:00

What's the boy for Boston?

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Uh Azula.

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What is it? Mozilla? Mazzo.

SPEAKER_03 21:07

Mozilla is a little bit of a. Do you think they were wrong? The West Virginia nigga. We think they're wrong for Jason Tatum to come back so early, because I felt like hold on.

SPEAKER_04 21:17

Mondo, I told y'all he was coming back early. You can go back to him now.

SPEAKER_03 21:20

Yeah, we heard that. It felt like that wasn't the right thing to do, though. It seemed like that was a dumbass move by him. I think it's a dumbass move because they lost. Real talk. Exactly. He didn't play, man. He got hurt at the end.

SPEAKER_04 21:35

So he was like, it's too many analytics in their fucking program.

SPEAKER_03 21:40

It's not about at first I was thinking that, oh, maybe he came back, but there's no such thing because people get hurt in the fucking playoffs every year.

SPEAKER_04 21:46

These niggas shoot 53s like it's the fucking regular season. Joel and B is a fucking bum now.

SPEAKER_03 21:55

I mean now. Yeah, now. MVP. I think it's over for him. I think it's over for him, bro. To be honest with you, Joel. Joel's. They gotta do something with him this season.

SPEAKER_04 22:08

I think he got two more seasons, though.

SPEAKER_03 22:10

Joel's gonna go to a different team, get min half the minimum, and the motherfucker's gonna kill, and they're gonna give his ass a fucking $20 million contract. He's gonna go back being a broke leg, broke back, broke hand, broke whatever, after he gets that money.

SPEAKER_04 22:28

So you think he's done with feeding? I mean, uh Philadelphia in two years?

SPEAKER_03 22:32

I think he's done this year.

SPEAKER_04 22:33

No.

SPEAKER_03 22:34

I think he's gonna be in the free agent market. You know what I'm saying? They already trying to You mean the trade market. He's definitely gonna be in the mix of that. So let's get into that. So, you know, it's a lot of trades that's gonna be happening, a lot of movement. This summer, who we think is gonna be like the blockbuster trade or free agent.

SPEAKER_04 22:54

It's easy, Giannis.

SPEAKER_03 22:55

Giannis. Well you think he's gonna do it. Giannis and maybe Ja.

SPEAKER_04 22:58

You think they're gonna trade Ja nah?

SPEAKER_03 23:00

No, it's not about if they're gonna trade, if somebody won't draw, but I think he'll be on the trading block.

SPEAKER_04 23:04

I hope he don't come to Chicago because I'm gonna see him on old block.

SPEAKER_03 23:06

Like, what the fuck, Ja? Do you believe he really didn't have a market out there to get like traded during the season? I don't believe that shit. Yeah. You think it really it was that bad?

unknown 23:15

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 23:16

He's a shooter. Really. Bang, bang. Literally.

SPEAKER_04 23:20

He might shoot himself.

SPEAKER_03 23:21

And not only that, it's the injury. I think Stephen A said it best when he asked the question, what did he get better at over the course of his career? He's still great, but he's not. He didn't develop anything. I I heard that shit and I was like, it's a lot of players that don't get better, but you still got your consistent game that he's. He's still a superstar, man. But he's not. You can how you consider him a superstar? He's still a superstar, bro. If you name your top five point guards in the league, he's your top five point guard? Right now. Okay, name the top five.

SPEAKER_04 23:52

It's two on San Antonio right now. I'm asking you. It's two on San Antonio right now, my boy.

SPEAKER_02 23:58

SGA, Luca, Brunson, Kay Cunningham.

SPEAKER_04 24:02

What's his name? You probably could trade Ja right now for a second round pick.

SPEAKER_02 24:07

That's fucked up.

SPEAKER_03 24:08

That's crazy. Harden's playing point guard. He turned over crazy. I'm still not taking Java Harden. Josh in the second. I wouldn't. Job still ain't got a jump shot. I wouldn't. I'll do that. Harden is another Curry. Curry. I'm still naming him. Harden is putting a depleting talent that's going to be out the door in two years. Yeah. Maybe this. John can't even get through the regular season. Not in the regular season, but. So you putting him, so you putting him over Curry? In the NBA, man, they hold a lot of funny. Are you putting him over Curry? I'm putting him over Cunningham. What? Next subject. Yeah. He was definitely. Kate Cunningham was just up for MVP. It's up for MVP. You gonna put him over him? Come on now. Hey man. So Ja this year. So Ja this year. We're not talking about Ja this year. Ja this year. That's what it is. I think it's a lot of old funny shit that's going on with this. So Ja last year, Ja this year is better than Kay Cunningham? I'll give you two years. Hell no. You think you don't know. You just guessed it. So what does the numbers say? The numbers say he was better?

SPEAKER_02 25:12

He takes his team to the playoffs?

SPEAKER_03 25:13

What'd he do? Look, man. What made him better? What made him better this year? Two years ago, we were all on Ja's dick. Two years ago, he wasn't playing. So what you talking about? When he was playing that series against the city. That was like three years ago. Three, four years ago. Three years ago. He got a gun charge. That was like two bit. But the great challenge. So gun to your head didn't say you need a player right now between King John Moran. And John Moran. You picking Kane Gunner. I mean, you picking John Moran. You crazy. I think well it would have been a big pause.

SPEAKER_04 25:47

Hey, next subject.

SPEAKER_02 25:51

Somebody got into the dummy club.

SPEAKER_04 25:52

I don't know if them dummies get into your club. So he better is he better than Maxie?

SPEAKER_03 25:56

Exactly. So Kate is better than Maxie. So he's better than Maxie? Kane ain't better than Maxie.

SPEAKER_02 26:01

The guy's almost averaging a triple-double.

SPEAKER_03 26:03

Leading his team. That's the only thing. The only fucking. Where is Philly and where is Detroit?

SPEAKER_04 26:10

Disclaimer at the bottom. Lem is off 3.5 milligrams of gummies right now.

SPEAKER_03 26:16

I don't even do that.

SPEAKER_02 26:18

My man Cunningham is up for MVP before the, what is it? Yeah, before the collapse low.

SPEAKER_03 26:25

Come on now. So speaking of the pleading players and contracts, LeBron James, what's his future gonna be in this big free agent market? I just told you. I think he's either gonna go. I think he should go to either the Clippers or he should go to Houston.

SPEAKER_04 26:40

Okay, I'm gonna I'm gonna back you up on that. But is he gonna demand the max, though, then?

SPEAKER_03 26:44

Hell no, he don't deserve the max. He'd be crazy to ask for that.

SPEAKER_04 26:48

He just beat fucking who the fuck the Lakers beat first round, huh?

SPEAKER_03 26:52

They beat the youngest playoff team ever. Houston without Kevin Durant.

SPEAKER_04 26:56

AB was there one game? Shit. They still got burnt. Hold on. You trying to say because of one playoff series. No, I'm just saying. He should get the max. You know I don't think that, nigga. I'm just saying, do you think he deserves the player? He's 41 years old. No. But he said he would never take nothing but the max to continue playing.

SPEAKER_03 27:16

He should retire then.

SPEAKER_04 27:17

And again, his son's gonna be right behind him because you can't put, you can't get LeBron without his fucking suit.

SPEAKER_03 27:23

I think that's gonna cause him respect. Somebody's gonna give Bronny Sturdy. And he wants the Max? Utah, here we go. Sacramento, here we go. They're gonna trade. Expansion team, here we go.

SPEAKER_04 27:36

They might do a sign to trade to Cleveland.

SPEAKER_03 27:38

Hell no. For who?

SPEAKER_04 27:40

Yeah, for who?

SPEAKER_03 27:41

Oh, if I'm Ja. I mean, not Ja. If I'm uh Spider, send me. Send me. Send me that lake. Send me the lake, because that'd be nice to be like that. Send me that lake. Send me, I'll go, I'll go. I'll go. That'd be nasty. Yeah, I'm the man in Cleveland, but fuck it.

SPEAKER_04 27:53

This part of my head. This part of my head. You said LeBron, Aiden, and Bronny.

SPEAKER_03 28:00

Aiden free agent, too. Never mind.

SPEAKER_04 28:04

And a pick for Allen and Harden.

SPEAKER_03 28:09

Hell no. Hell no. I need Mitchell.

SPEAKER_04 28:11

Harden gotta go.

SPEAKER_03 28:13

I need Mitchell.

SPEAKER_04 28:13

Cleveland not gonna give up Mitchell. That's the only way I'm taking it.

SPEAKER_03 28:17

I don't give up Allen or something. They'll give up somebody like that. That's what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_04 28:21

Allen or Mosley. Mosley.

SPEAKER_03 28:23

Fuck Mosley gives you. They don't push the That's not a good ass trade for LeBron James. If I'm giving you LeBron James, you're giving me draft picks and your best player.

SPEAKER_04 28:36

You just said he's 41. Why would I give you draft picks and my best player? Because people are 41 years old.

SPEAKER_03 28:41

Guess what? People still come and watch LeBron. No. You know how much money Cleveland's gonna make? Will people gonna go watch LeBron? They said when like when he left, like the economy kind of went back down.

SPEAKER_04 28:52

Yeah, you got Mitchell now. You got Mitchell now. Harden. If they get to the Easter Conference Finals, next year, no nigga, let me finish. Let me finish. Let me finish. Next year you can sell. We made it to the Eastern Conference Finals. We're gonna get another piece that's not LeBron, and we're gonna make it to the finals this year. You can sell that to fans.

SPEAKER_02 29:12

But what the Lakers getting out of it? You're thinking one thing.

SPEAKER_04 29:14

No, no, no, no, no, no, no. I'm saying fuck the Lakers to trade anything. I'm saying y'all saying that Cleveland don't have a fan base. You can sell that to the fan base. We're gonna get another piece. Hard as fucking gone.

SPEAKER_03 29:27

Are you talking about I'm confused now? Are you saying that's what I'm saying? Hard as a free agent. Him being traded there or him just signing there.

SPEAKER_04 29:34

No, I'm just yeah, him just signing there. But you say he needs the max. They're not giving him the fucking max. LeBron says he won't play for nothing but the max. They ain't giving him the fucking word. If he's a man of his fucking word. The max is four to five years. If he's a man of his word, like he said he is, I'm not playing for nothing but the max. The East is. I am the third greatest basketball player ever. I'm not playing for nothing. But the Max.

SPEAKER_03 29:59

But my whole thing is, he'll get his ass cut up in the East. Hey man.

SPEAKER_04 30:05

The West is shit. You know who got money?

SPEAKER_03 30:08

The West has veterans. You know who got money for? They play fast paced. That motherfucker ain't fucking with this shit. Am I right or wrong? The East is full of young boys. It is. Yeah, it is. I ain't fucking with us running around this shit. Look. Hey, that man player land for it.

SPEAKER_04 30:23

LeBron's not even the top thing, top player available next year. I mean in the summer. It's Giannis.

SPEAKER_03 30:31

So him and Giannis. Him and Giannis. Well no, no one's a free agent. One's a free agent, one has to be traded.

SPEAKER_04 30:37

Giannis has to be traded. Yeah. But LeBron comes to Bronny, so you can't. It's like.

SPEAKER_03 30:42

No, the fuck he doesn't. Hey, man. Hey, you're gonna have to dump that little nigga, man. What you mean? Hey, hey. Giannis, Bronny, LeBron to Memphis. His favorite city.

SPEAKER_04 30:54

I ain't had nothing wrong with Memphis. He'll probably retire. Yeah. Motherfucker, you are not a baller. Shut up. Shit.

SPEAKER_02 31:01

That's like my that's like my no.

SPEAKER_04 31:04

Fuck what he said. Shit. Cut this on the fucking promo limb. Shit.

SPEAKER_03 31:10

Jordan's on his feet.

SPEAKER_04 31:11

No. You look y'all got the fucking watch on, right? Or the fucking ring off. My bad Lakeisha. But next time I have it on. Don't worry about it. Don't worry about it, baby. I'll have it on next time.

SPEAKER_03 31:22

You wait in line for the AP? Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 31:25

Don't knock my AP, nigga, when you see it on the fucking podcast. But yeah.

SPEAKER_03 31:31

Yeah, I just look at that and say, you be. Should you take LeBron for a team? Yeah. Well, I give him 20 million in a year, yeah. I'm not signed to a deal. A Max Dill is paying that man like 50, 60 million. No, he's not. I think it's like 60 million now.

SPEAKER_04 31:47

I'm not telling you what I would give. I'm telling you what that man said. There's no way fucking it's a good thing. That man said he's not playing for nothing but the mouse from that woman.

SPEAKER_03 31:56

I'll sign him for a year for 30 million. That'd be the highest. 30 million. That's all he can get. He can't get no extension. Who would give an extension to a 42-year-old man? Like the dumbest shit.

SPEAKER_04 32:06

The Lakers say, nah. Hell no. The Lakers need athletic wings and defense, G. They got them two white white men.

SPEAKER_03 32:14

I was supposed to say white boys. I'm trying to catch myself. That's not no better. Anyway, go ahead.

SPEAKER_04 32:19

Hey, I want to call him Cave Cave doing it, though. AR might be gone too, because I think he's a free agent.

SPEAKER_02 32:25

I think AR is a free agent. Get him the fuck out of here, too. Nah, they're gonna sign AR. Nah. I don't know. You know, you could do a lot of shit if with Luca, Luca, you the guy.

SPEAKER_03 32:34

Pick your fucking team.

SPEAKER_04 32:36

But is AR on a play option? I gotta look that up.

SPEAKER_03 32:38

Is he on a play option? You gotta check it, but I know he's a free agent. Like, uh. Well, no, I think he's still in that. I don't think they gave him any real money. So he might not be in a player option. Because he's not gonna take it because he wants to get paid. Yeah, because this I think it's play options like 14. Yeah, he wants to get paid. But if I'm LA, let his ass go too.

unknown 32:58

Nah.

SPEAKER_04 32:58

I'll let him and LeBron go and fucking just get Luca. You know what? I'll get I'll try to get Daniel. I try to get McDonald's. You know what I'll do.

SPEAKER_03 33:07

You know who, you know what I'll do? Will it ever happen? Hell no. I said, LeBron, I got a perfect spot for you. Since you have no fucking loyalty to anybody, you won't mind this shit. There's no disrespect. But we're gonna get you, we're gonna sign and trade you and AR to the Boston Scepters, give me Tatum, one more person, and a pick. Ain't nobody giving that shit for no motherfucking Tatum. That's crazy. I think and realistically. Realistically, where LeBron's gonna go is probably to the LA Clippers, realistically. That's what I say, Clippers or Houston, but if I want to say, I say, hey, Tatum, come over here. Even I even see him, I can even see him a possibility being Houston. But you see Tatum and Luca together?

SPEAKER_04 33:48

Shit. But it might be Brown. I think they want to trade Brown from all the shit he did this year.

SPEAKER_03 33:53

Nah, nah, nah. They ain't giving up Brown. No, I will give no one.

SPEAKER_04 33:56

They've been talking about taking uh Brown or more than walking.

SPEAKER_03 33:59

I think, but my thing is, I think more people want Tatum is a sexier thing because you getting paws. You're getting everything. We're talking fucking sports. That's a fucking term. It's just a pause. You too grown for that. Just a pause. Nigga just apologized to his lady for Navid of the Ring where you tell me fucking. Sorry, baby. She don't watch the fucking podcast.

SPEAKER_04 34:19

He's the top fucking uh fan on Facebook, my boy. All right. No, she just making sure they ain't no bitches in the back.

SPEAKER_02 34:25

We appreciate that. I saw a shadow. Somebody walk by for long here. They're just AC.

SPEAKER_03 34:33

Oh, man. He's getting a drink of water. Speaking of uh hot water, your boy Stefan Diggs, man. You gotta support him in this time of need, man. You know, you can't find a good cook no more, man. You just want somebody that gives you some macaroni and lobster. You know what I'm saying? A nice little, you know, steak and train.

SPEAKER_04 34:55

Hey, first off, hold on. Stop fucking the help. I sent y'all the video of her fucking uh resume. Her resume.

SPEAKER_03 35:04

Stop fucking the help, you rich motherfucker. Stop fucking the help.

SPEAKER_04 35:07

That chef, the physical therapist, the maze. Nigga. I see why Cardi was the goddamn arguing him at Starbucks the other day. Nigga, you make me like a goddamn fool out here. Somebody must have told him.

SPEAKER_03 35:22

Bitch, you used to be let me shut up. Somebody told him, hey man, just all the holes in the LLC and make me a job. Put them on salary. Cardi, the way your music goes and what you talk about in the life you used to live, it's gonna be hard to find an athlete, another millionaire, that's gonna treat you the way you need to be treated. You need to go ahead and get a few.

SPEAKER_04 35:40

First comment's gonna get you fucking see that first comment.

SPEAKER_03 35:43

Hold on. Right now. You could gotta go ahead and get you them lawyers, them doctors, what are them, brothers? Somebody that works for the studio.

SPEAKER_04 35:51

First up, Carly can't pick a good nigga. She got a nigga losing money at the casino. Get shot at the fucking casino.

SPEAKER_03 35:59

Oh for a fucking $10,000.

SPEAKER_04 36:01

Some other nigga when she leaves, he fucking got that.

SPEAKER_03 36:04

You see what I just mean? What she needs to be doing. These guys know your career. You gotta go get you somebody's gonna treat the doctors, the lawyers, the guy that's gonna be like. Chris Warker. No, they want to compete. You see Magnus Sion? She was trying to get with Clay. What's uh what's the other one? Gorilla with uh with Brandon Ingram. Yeah, like they want this, they want to be next to these ballers, but they don't know. I just want to say, do y'all ever notice these women that make certain kind of music, fuck that nigga, get your money, get paid, do all this, pop that pussy and all that. They all the ones that got men in committee relationships. They sending y'all hoes off. I mean, sending y'all sending you ladies off. I just want to bring that up quick.

SPEAKER_02 36:42

They all got committed relationships.

SPEAKER_03 36:43

They sending you off. These hoes telling you to pop the ass, leave your kids at the crib while they trying to be under their NBA boyfriends. Stop following motherfuckers, be leaders. I just I just noticed that.

SPEAKER_02 36:54

They all in committed relationships.

SPEAKER_03 36:56

They all in committed relationships, it happens. And stop getting build like Roblox, like motherfuckers. Do what you like donkey cars. Do what you do with your body. But just for Cardi, like, nothing wrong with your past. Your past is your past, and you look, you a fucking, it got you to being a millionaire. But the type of motherfucker you fucking with, they ain't gonna be shit. But how you expecting even even the pick a person of of any type of quality when you're from that type of like your mentality gotta change first. Hey, they rich. They they put on a you think these motherfuckers ain't sitting somewhere eating S cargo and all types of shit. Them motherfuckers switched up good when they meetings. They look at you, get the fuck out of my face. They're in the right room. That that posture, that talk changes. We all got that voice at work. How do you think they voice is? That cold switch. They know how to work the fucking room. Yeah, I don't know, man. Uh good luck to you, Cardi. But uh to another guy that needs to get his women, I don't know what's wrong with him. He's actually kind of a nutbog. So you heard about the Tyreek Hill situation.

SPEAKER_04 38:01

No, tell me about it, bro. So basically Tell me about the not the top fifth top shit.

SPEAKER_02 38:08

No, he's fucking up. Top fifth. Can't even spit that shit out. Time won't even let you lie.

SPEAKER_03 38:14

Man, so anyway, he was he was with this model, this 6'1 model, right? So they was playing a little, you know. You over saying her height. I just won't say that. She's 6'1. This nigga Tyreek Hill's 5'4. You're just saying that. I'm trying to help us call it. That's all I'm trying to say, because you're sure you keep bringing up a height. Yeah, I'm just saying, like, you know what I'm saying? You got a little Tim there that's playing catch. You know what I'm saying? First, she caught it first. She mossed him. She popped him a little bit. Ball, you know, caused a fumble for him. I'm breaking the scenario down for you. She really loses his ass. So, so it was his time to play defense. So, once it came to her, he, you know, tackled her and broke her leg. So, you know what I'm saying? He took it a little personal, you know. Which is sad because he's going to, well, I guess they could bind because they both go on to leg injuries and go, you know, rehab together.

SPEAKER_04 39:02

He's not even signed yet, though. That's the killing part. Is he gonna get signed somewhere though?

SPEAKER_03 39:06

That man needs to go. That man needs to go, put on his his his braids, his his weave braids, go to go to the go to the the maid back of Andy Reid and say he's in a bind, Andy. He's in a bind, Nate. I'm in a bind, Andy. If you don't know what it is, I'm in the bind, Nate. Go look it up. Set it off. Go look it up. Go look it up. I mean, just look up. I'm in a buying, Nate. From what movie and see the outcome? Go ahead, Andy. I'm in a bind, Andy.

SPEAKER_04 39:35

The thing about set it off, though, Nate was getting it on from the night to the morning. They done earned that money, boy. Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_03 39:46

Hey, that's what happened when you pay the play, boy. Speaking of pay to play. Alright, we gotta so it's it's not just so y'all women think it's just a black person thing, black man thing. Because black men don't cheat, first thing. First thing. The New England coach getting caught with the analysts. How that's gonna work. That nigga ain't getting caught. That nigga out there.

SPEAKER_04 40:08

Nigga, she named this a kid after. Yeah, that's some of my brother.

SPEAKER_03 40:12

Oh, wow. He's not getting caught. He's out there. Oh man. They're in a relationship. Man, that's worse than like a girl like tattooing like her boyfriend name. You don't have like a year later. You said a husband wasn't shit a long time ago, so you know.

SPEAKER_04 40:27

You know what I'm saying? And she's still standing by. By who? The uh the husband is. No, the fuck she ain't. No, the husband, no, the husband.

SPEAKER_03 40:36

They just ain't the analyst standing by him or something like that.

SPEAKER_04 40:38

The analyst husband still standing by. His wife? Yeah. Oh, you tripping.

SPEAKER_02 40:43

He said she just she deserved her play.

SPEAKER_04 40:46

Sh shit. But you don't even know. They might have this fucking. You know how what you know how people are. You know how rich people are. They have their fucking kinks and all that, so it let up slide.

SPEAKER_03 40:58

Jeannie Buss and her husband live in the same condomini, I mean, whatever. Building. She stays in a pit. He has a room down there. She has to go down there and hangs out with him and go back to the top of vice versa. They'll see. Crazy body. Yeah. He probably sees old Phil limping his broke ass hip ass upstairs. We just gonna go talk plays. That's crazy.

SPEAKER_04 41:20

But that ain't the first one. Remember when Rachel Nicholson Rachel Nicholson was messing with upstairs. Rachel Nichols?

SPEAKER_03 41:27

Rachel Nichols?

SPEAKER_04 41:28

When she was messing with Jimmy Butler in the goddamn uh bubble.

SPEAKER_03 41:31

Was that really happening or was that a rumor?

SPEAKER_04 41:34

Boy, you saw the way Jimmy was fucking smiling at her. I know you ain't been there in a while, though. You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_03 41:43

But that look. It was a specul, it was a speculation. Right.

SPEAKER_04 41:46

Speculation. And she married? Rachel is, yeah. Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_03 41:50

Her husband, though. I'm working late night. Gotta get this interview in. Yeah. Fuck out of here. Doing some real journalism. I'm putting money on the table. That's crazy, man. Let's actually talk about some football, some real football. We've been up here being like the shade room for a couple minutes. So the schedule is out for the Bears, right?

SPEAKER_04 42:16

When our Atlanta game is.

SPEAKER_03 42:18

What's the Atlanta game? I think it's like in the middle of the year. Fourth game of the season or something like that. I know uh the uh Bears Green Bay game is at Christmas, which is that lets you know that the NBA is officially over with. Nobody watching no NBA games on Christmas no more. Yep, that that's over with. That is over with.

SPEAKER_04 42:37

Oh, hold on, let me stop. Bears Falcons, October 18th. I will be there. That's the fourth game. Atlanta, Georgia. Now Clark, Atlanta. I need y'all to make sure homecoming's that weekend, boss. We there.

SPEAKER_03 42:49

I'm there. They don't want your asses, dude. Yeah, I used to go to school. You see Lim whisper this shit. I'm there.

SPEAKER_04 42:59

Say it too loud. You know, you know, you know who watching.

SPEAKER_03 43:02

That phone about the raise. How do you know? I got a little bit more freedom than people think. Yeah, all right. Yeah. But yeah, man, what's what teams are we most excited about for the upcoming NFL season since we got the schedules out now? All of them. Like, I just want to see some good football. I want to see good football. I I really want to see, you know, that's the time I actually really gamble on football. So I think I'm gonna get my my parlay game back squared away when these when the season starts. But like, what teams do we think are actually gonna actually go to the next level? Other than, you know, the hometown. We you know, the Bears are gonna make some noise this year. You try to say the Bears is gonna have the hardest schedule. That's it. It's about percentage though. Yeah. Oh my god.

SPEAKER_04 43:52

We had a top we had one of the top divisions, and then we have the first place schedule us.

SPEAKER_03 43:57

Uh I I Looking at the schedules, I don't think a lot of them got a lot of hard schedules. I think it's pretty much a weird year where things look very even.

SPEAKER_04 44:08

I'm gonna tell you this. Who I want to see next year be great is Travis Hunter. No hands down. That was my pick for rookie of the year last year. I just want to see Travis Hunter be great.

SPEAKER_03 44:19

Is he actually gonna play what position he's gonna play in? He's still playing. I think that's foolish. I think he should just six down.

SPEAKER_04 44:26

And I want him to be great at both. I want to be the number one wide receiver. I mean number one wide receiver and second quarterback. Or first quarterback and number two wide receiver.

SPEAKER_03 44:38

I know people playing Madden and you know, they, you know, that life ain't a video game. You're gonna wear your ass out doing that. This is the NFL, which means niggas, fucking large. You playing against the best players on the planet. I mean, come on.

SPEAKER_04 44:55

It's not impossible, my nigga.

SPEAKER_03 44:56

I I want to see what the Colts are gonna do healthy. If their quarterback don't go out, let's see what they do. Who's the coach quarterback again? I think it's uh what's his name? What the hell is his fucking name? Do for uh the Giants. The motherfucker that went out. The motherfucker that went out and they went on the biggest losing streak ever after he went down.

SPEAKER_04 45:15

Nigga had a 45-year-old Phillip Rivers, goddammit.

SPEAKER_03 45:18

Yeah, that'd bring Phillip Rivers in. Do you think we gotta see? I think I want to see the Giants this year. The Giants healthy, look fuck Jackson Dart is nice.

SPEAKER_04 45:32

Is he gonna slide though or take them big hits?

SPEAKER_03 45:34

You better learn how to slide. They just got they got a good wide receiver core. I'm fucking with them. Do we have a another con quarterback controversy up there in Cleveland? You know, Watson's gonna be back. You got Shador there. Are they gonna who's starting opening opening Watson? You know how much money, you know how much money. That's what they're saying, but I don't know. You know. You you can't put that type of money on the bench. You gotta make that motherfucker. But that's not the only one, though.

SPEAKER_04 46:01

You got Minnesota too. Kylie, Kyler, and uh JJ.

SPEAKER_03 46:06

I'm putting JJ in anyway. Right, exactly. Kyler still gotta learn the playbook, man. So you think they're gonna start Watson like like what this give him, what they're gonna give him a chance to what, try to keep his job or just see if he messes up. But he's just gonna start unless he's gonna be a good one. Nigga, Watson has started for all that money. Yeah. The fucking thing. If he's not producing, they're not gonna be like, all right, we speak.

SPEAKER_04 46:28

He gotta win six games, nigga. He'll get their money's worth.

SPEAKER_03 46:31

They don't play with it. I think it's gonna be three games and people gonna be crying at your door shit. Why are you not giving the black man a chance? He's gonna be a big thing started, bro. Oh, oh, oh, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, but I'm saying. The one that didn't touch the pussy. Gonna get the one that didn't touch the pussy. He didn't touch nothing. They touched him. It's a massage problem. It's a massage problem. Allegedly. That motherfucker touched the pussy because the pussy was offered. I didn't say he touched it illegally.

SPEAKER_04 46:57

Allegedly. He was getting massages, man.

SPEAKER_03 47:00

He touched the pussy. Allegedly. It just wasn't illegal like they say it was.

SPEAKER_04 47:05

Fucked up. It's mental, though. All right.

SPEAKER_03 47:07

No, it didn't. That motherfucker got paid. He touched the pussy and got paid. Oh my God. Alright. We gotta jump off this subject. That man touched the pussy. Get big contracts. Fuck it. I can't even play. But fuck it. I'll take it. He ain't been right since though, bro. Yeah, he been right in the pockets, motherfucker. In the pockets, motherfucker. That motherfucker was on that trunk. Grab her by the what? Get money over here. Then they no, they lied. I didn't say it was illegally grabbing the pussy.

SPEAKER_04 47:41

He grabbed the pussy. He doesn't have that SA next to his name.

SPEAKER_03 47:45

Mm-hmm. Hell no. Might be sex addict next to his name. Exactly. That motherfuckers hit on bitches. They just lied to get the bag. He should have had the same lawyer as uh as uh Stefan. But got all the moes set up. I think Stefan is gonna get in some more trouble, bro, with these bitches. Cause he ain't learned nothing. That nigga back on the street. He got a baby mama, G.

SPEAKER_04 48:09

Shit.

SPEAKER_03 48:10

That's crazy. You got four baby moms. How many baby moms you got? You know, you got a thing with him. You want to count his baby mama, his tattoos on his back? You got a thing with him. Uh-huh. You got a thing. Hey, I say the nigga, I don't want to see a nigga play with a tramp stamp. I got a thing with him for a baby stamp. I still don't know how you saw his tramp stamp. You showed everybody. I didn't see that. Mike, did you see that before you posted it? Yeah, me neither. I don't know what the fuck you looking at. Mondo. Mondo, you ever see the trip tattooed Stefan Diggs back tattoo? Mondo's shaking his hell, no, no. Yeah, yeah. Amen. I'm just saying. Why are you looking at a man's back tattoo? Master editor. But yeah. Speaking of things that we're excited about, who are we excited about in the WNBA right now? We had a couple of games. We've seen a couple of breakout players. Some players got traded to different teams, like your girl Angel. She's playing for the dreams because she's such a dream. Who are we excited about? You already know how I'm saying my girl Livia. Livia Miles, yeah, she is. She's killing it.

SPEAKER_04 49:16

They had a game tonight, what? Against Dallas.

SPEAKER_03 49:20

Yeah, I think of all the rookies.

SPEAKER_04 49:22

That's a mashup right there.

SPEAKER_03 49:24

Yeah, I think of all the rookies, she's the most prepared and most ready to.

SPEAKER_04 49:28

I'm not gonna lie to you. I'm happy the sky seats are going back down to their regular price. And we got a better team now, though. Do we? Yeah, we got Cloud, we got fucking Skylar, we got Rakia. You know what I'm saying? I'm just saying we got a better team now. And the prices, I could go with $12. We can go watch it on the series. I still watch it. No, the popcorn is gonna be at least three hours, boss. We can go there. Get the change in your uh middle of your cup.

SPEAKER_03 50:06

Give them a five. Keep the change. Right. Just keep that you change. Nah, homie, I'm getting pizza and nachos today. Still the biggest game at the United Add me at uh Wind Trust is the McDonald's All-American game when they have it there. But hey, you know. They're supposed to have the WNBA All-Star game this year in Chicago. So I think the MLB All-Star game, too. So we're excited to come up. Come on now. You know it's not at the guaranteed rate. Dumbass question.

SPEAKER_04 50:36

Dumbass question of the day. First of all, nigga, it could be, yeah. Because we finna get another stadio. They finna build uh missy uh build y'all asses in Netflix. Dang, that shit ain't happening. That shit ain't happening, motherfucker. Y'all niggas don't know. Y'all niggas just read the fucking trees and shut up, goddamn. Y'all don't listen to the goddamn business section. The business section. We the newspaper here and there.

SPEAKER_03 51:11

The fuck? Where the fuck can you find a newspaper at? Online? Online? It's not a newspaper, it's just a news motherfucker. It's the newspaper, nigga. Talking about they move it over there. They said it was gonna move in like six different fucking places. If the Bears leave Soldier Fields, they're gonna put them over there. They're gonna put their ass. They're gonna put their ass in Nashville. Man, well the only ones spending the money seemed like Northwestern. They get in a new stadium neighborhood. Northwestern, the Chicago Fire. Yeah, everybody getting a new sex uh uh stadium but the professional league.

SPEAKER_04 51:41

And we're gonna let the Bears go to hell.

SPEAKER_03 51:45

It's better than going to Arlington Heights. I don't think so. You want to drive all the way to Arlington Heights? Or you want to drive 15, 20 minutes on the road? I drive to Arlington Heights like that. And you hate it, motherfucker. Now put it in bears traffic. I love it. Put it in bears traffic. You on the street. Yo, motherfuckers will be coming home by like three in the morning fucking with Armin's Heights.

SPEAKER_02 52:06

They be like, we do it. Well, that's good for y'all motherfuckers. Y'all can't do that.

SPEAKER_03 52:11

Get a hotel out there. People from outside. Well, we do it, and then we'll keep up with the colour. I'm not gonna let these niggas. No, no, no.

SPEAKER_04 52:17

I'm gonna stop. I'm not gonna let these niggas leave my comment out that's got the question out this uh section. All right. It's three, it's three players, three on three teams. Okay. D-Rolls, Paul George, Joel, and B.

SPEAKER_03 52:34

So that's what was my next question. So we were talking about the three-headed monster. What would be a good three-headed-headed tree?

SPEAKER_04 52:41

Name. Name. Three players that can beat them that are not in your top 15 players ever.

SPEAKER_03 52:50

Guess what? You know who I can beat? You know who can beat them? Three healthy niggas? The ACL can beat them. That's what it's the ACL will beat them. That's what it'll beat them. Three healthy nights. They fucking surgeon will beat them.

SPEAKER_04 53:01

We can't go in game three. Hey, but no, I had this conversation with niggas at work, right? This nigga gonna say John Starks, Charles Barkley, and Patrick Gilman. You gonna say yeah, nigga.

SPEAKER_03 53:15

Hell no, but I'm saying that's like it's not our far fetched you got some broke leg niggas at any time.

SPEAKER_04 53:20

In a prime, though. Y'all forget Paul, George, and Indiana, though. In their prime.

SPEAKER_03 53:24

In their prime, that's what you're saying. In a prime. Okay. So if I say in their prime, they can't be what? Top 15 or top 10 players?

SPEAKER_04 53:32

Top 15 players.

SPEAKER_03 53:32

So what you consider? You know it's already bad one. You gotta cut out.

SPEAKER_04 53:36

You got to. You ain't no, you gotta cut out. Yeah, you gotta cut out the leadership. You gotta cut out the little good niggas, G. That's the fucked up part.

SPEAKER_03 53:46

So I would say if you wanted to match that up, I would say Westbrook, okay, for the Ford Westbrook. Yeah, Westbrook. He's not gonna be in your top 15, but he's still a he was a he was the man at his time. Top 15 of all time? You're not gonna be top 15 of all time. No, I'm talking about you're talking about top 15 of all time? What are the three players again?

SPEAKER_04 54:07

D Rose, Paul Joyce, and B.

SPEAKER_03 54:09

He said you can't pick top 15 players of all time. Joker.

SPEAKER_04 54:13

You don't think Joker's top 15 player?

SPEAKER_03 54:15

Of all time? No. Giannis? He's no, no, you're not top 15. I'm picking either Westbrook or Kyrie. I'm going deep. I'm going uh fucking I'm going to Westbrook. I'm going T Mac. And if I was finna, no, go for it. It gotta be a center, right? Or Zapar 4. What would you think it'd be It'd be fucking? I would say a young um, I would say a young Wallace. You know what I'm saying? Rasheed Wallace. Yeah. They're smoking. Joker, Giannis. And I'm doing Kyrie because you need somebody that can really shoot that bitch. That's a good one.

SPEAKER_04 54:52

But let me take out Paul George and T-Mac. He injury prone too. So D-Rolls, T-Mac.

SPEAKER_03 55:02

Like the broken knee, fucking scut, broke fucking back. And they prime. I'm still I'm keeping it the same. I can see because Giannis Giannis at 6'9, 6'11, could guard her, could guard a motherfucker like T-Mac. Do we consider like Dirk top all-time 16?

SPEAKER_04 55:21

Dirk in the top 15.

SPEAKER_03 55:26

That's really so. I'm keeping it the same. I mean, I might keep mine the same, but this for the sake of argument. We'll do some more broken leg motherfuckers. Grant Hill.

SPEAKER_04 55:40

Grant Hill and his prime was a motherfucker.

SPEAKER_03 55:42

Exactly, though. Who else? I'm taking Grant Hill over T-Mac and his prime. Yeah. That's a discussion.

SPEAKER_04 55:49

That's another one.

SPEAKER_03 55:50

Let's get another broken up point guard, Anthony Hardaway. Yeah. Yeah, Anthony Hardaway. Danny. And uh and another broke, a broke center par for what's uh Samson from uh Houston. What's his name? Ralph Sampson. Ralph Sampson. That's a good one. That's a good one. If you're talking Derek Rose and you're talking Hardaway, that would have been a matchup. Because people tend to forget when Michael was at the out the league, probably the best guard, not shooting guard in that point, just the best guard in the NBA is Anthony Hardaway. I had some pennies. Uh-huh. Penny was a motherfucking 6'7 away. He had that ball on the string. God damn. At commercials with him and Chris Ross. Yeah. He was a marking machine. Yeah. Do you believe, like some people said, like, man, he was closer to being better than Mike around that time. Do you do you actually believe that? He beat Mike in the playoffs. He beat 45 in the playoffs. Yeah, Mike just returned. It's like, yeah. But they said at the time, it was like neck and neck. You can say neck and neck, what happened in next year?

SPEAKER_04 56:53

They got swept.

SPEAKER_03 56:54

Yeah. That's a fact. What happened next year? That's how you put it. What happened before Mike retired? Well, no, Penny wasn't playing yet. After he got his real first taste of penny, he was whooping on his ass. Who uh so here's a here's a a dope question, right? Out of like all these guys that was the that got injured, who you think had the most potential? Like a like the Derrick Rose, Anthony Hardaway, the uh C-Max.

SPEAKER_04 57:21

D Rose is the youngest MVP ever, cuz.

SPEAKER_03 57:24

Yeah, Anthony Hardaway played in the same time as Michael Jordan. D.

SPEAKER_04 57:29

Rose never got hurt, cuz we got a championship.

SPEAKER_03 57:33

And they both number one. Anthony was a motherfucker. What was the argument? What was this the argument? The argument was that was Anthony better than Jordan at the time. But it is. You can't say the motherfuckers were. Nah. Nah. Nah.

SPEAKER_04 57:50

What? No. Nah.

SPEAKER_03 57:51

LeBron was LeBron. Derrick's MVP don't count for shit. No, no bullshit. No bullshit. I'm happy Derrick Rose won for the simple fact. I got the hate for LeBron. But who had a better year? LeBron. You can't be the MVP when you play with two of our fucking guaranteed. But the motherfucker, people tend to forget LeBron from the beginning of the Cleveland to now. Just go back a lot, LeBron. That motherfucker. D-Rose ain't had nobody. He was on Miami. Huh? The year that Derek Rose won that of LeBron James was a big one. But he had a great yeah. I'm just saying he had a great year. I'm happy Derrick Rose was in the game. Tim's red D-Rolls to the fucking ground, nigga. Yeah, yeah, he fucked that up. That was on him. That was on the fucking coach. He was a retard for that shit.

SPEAKER_04 58:36

We up by 20. He still got D-Rolls in the fucking ground.

SPEAKER_03 58:39

Like I said, I'm happy he won MVP, but LeBron had a way better fucking year. I would have loved. But if LeBron was on Cleveland, he probably would have won it. I would have loved to see a healthy Grand Hill, you know what I'm saying? Like a real It was hard. It was harder to win MVP back then. But I'm saying, like, after like, you know, Jordan was getting out the league, you know what I'm saying? Actually, a real healthy Grand Hill, would he still be competing with the LeBrons and like the T-Macs and stuff like that? Them type of players. Yeah, yeah. Would he be on the level that would he surpass the city? He was already on that level before he got injured.

SPEAKER_04 59:16

A healthy T Mac and a healthy Grant Hill have to win a championship. They have to. Hands down.

SPEAKER_03 59:23

And the thing is, they probably would have won it together. When they was on the Oh Linda. Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_04 59:28

Even though Don can't coach and shit. Even though Don can't coach and shit. You got them two guys right there, cuz. They wanted a chip.

SPEAKER_03 59:35

I knew Grand Hill was the shit. Him and fucking skip. I knew Grand Hill was the man when Grand Hill was able to change his fucking game when he got back healthy. That man went to the Suns, became a fucking sniper. Yeah. That just so you can't be able to do it. He got tired of fucking to me and said, I guess I go back to playing. I'm tired of faking his injury. But yeah, uh. Yeah, man. That'd be a crazy what if, man. I don't know, man. It just I let me ask you now.

SPEAKER_04 1:00:06

Is Clyde Drexler better than Tracy?

SPEAKER_03 1:00:10

Than Tracy McGrady? Shooting guard? Yeah. Yeah. Hell no. Yeah, he took his team to two championships. They lost, but he degraded. He took his team to two championships.

SPEAKER_04 1:00:18

I think sometimes you do be drinking on the job.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:21

Hold on, you saying, you saying Tracy McGrady was better than Clyde? I'm saying Clyde Drexler's better than Clyde. You don't think so?

SPEAKER_04 1:00:28

A healthy team at?

SPEAKER_03 1:00:30

That man took his team to two fucking championships. Championships.

SPEAKER_04 1:00:33

He took one team.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:34

He took his team to two championships. He took one team. No, they lost against the Pistons. They lost against the Boys. If you don't know your facts, I'm bringing this shit up. You're right.

SPEAKER_04 1:00:43

You're right, you right, you right. I take that.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:44

Yeah. In a, in a, in, in the fucking West back there. And he won one with Houston, man. Yeah, then he went to Houston first year, 1-1.

SPEAKER_04 1:00:52

I do take that back. My brother. I forget how good Clyde was.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:56

Yeah. That's the reason why they didn't draft Jordan. Because they say we got Clyde. And no one ever no one ever says they was wrong for that.

SPEAKER_04 1:01:04

But Clyde always thought he was better than Jordan, though. That's what he's supposed to think, motherfucker.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:08

But he's not.

SPEAKER_04 1:01:09

Yeah, but you're supposed to think.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:13

He's not, though. Yeah, yo, if your ass is playing basketball right now, you'd be like, shit, I'm better than D Rose. I don't even know why they talk about that nigga.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:20

He was probably watching him in high school. I used to do that same shit. Tim Dogs, nigga. My same mouth is crazy. You're supposed to think. Fucking Paul Pierce thinks he's better than Kobe and Mike.

SPEAKER_04 1:01:36

Class still think afterwards, though. When the careers are over. Yeah, motherfuckers. There's no fucking way you think you're better than Michael Jordan, who's won six fucking championships. Paul Pierce thinks he's better than Michael Jordan and Kobe. I will say this. Yes, he does. I will say this. Yes, he does. No, he don't.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:51

I don't know. Them series when they was playing each other in that with the Blazers Wolves, that was a close motherfucking series. I remember that as a kid. Them motherfuckers, I was actually scared about that shit. Because Clyde was getting down.

SPEAKER_04 1:02:04

Yeah, Clyde's a bugger. No, no, no. So hold on. No, he's not. Okay, but you can't knock him for thinking that shit.

SPEAKER_03 1:02:13

Two guards or discards, period. Two guards.

SPEAKER_04 1:02:16

I feel like we just did this. Yeah, we did this shit before him. I know I want to hear it again, though, right now.

SPEAKER_03 1:02:21

Go ahead. Yeah, so I will go Dwayne Wade, okay, Michael Jordan, Kobe Bryant.

SPEAKER_04 1:02:32

Y'all might as well say Clyde, then.

SPEAKER_03 1:02:35

Clyde is in there, so Clyde be fourth, and Woo-hoo be the fifth. AI is my fifth now. Hell no. AI is my fifth now. Harding got pushed down. Oh, yeah. We said say Harding, right? He out of there. Harding got pushed down like a motherfucker.

SPEAKER_04 1:02:49

Clyde is better than AI and Harden. If you was gonna rank it though.

SPEAKER_03 1:02:53

Yeah.

unknown 1:02:54

Wow.

SPEAKER_03 1:02:56

Wow. I'm going. MJ, Kobe, Way, Clyde, AI.

SPEAKER_04 1:03:02

You two niggas never even seen Clyde play. Y'all was like. I know you like saying your mother was the fuck. Y'all was like if your fucking daddy's nut sacked still, nigga. Fuck you talking about. Y'all never saw Clyde play.

SPEAKER_03 1:03:16

How we not see Clyde. I was born in the 80s, by the way.

SPEAKER_04 1:03:19

Y'all was still in y'all daddy's nut set, nigga.

SPEAKER_03 1:03:22

It's because you was born in 74, nigga. So guess what? I guess Magic and the King suck, then. Together? I guess they suck. Kareem was okay when he's in walking. I guess they suck. I guess they suck. Because we was in our daddy's nutsack, huh? I guess so. I guess they suck. Mark McGuire. Next time I see him, I say, I know a guy that's saying you suck. Hey, you know this nigga named uh this doctor named Jay? I heard he was ass. Oh, true. Larry, he wasn't good. You was in your daddy's nuts. He wasn't good. Come on, daddy. Come on, man. Well, thank you for another great episode.

SPEAKER_04 1:03:58

Hold on, hold on. Congratulations to Kayla graduating from Mazoo. Classics. Congratulations. 2026. See you Sunday, sweetheart.

SPEAKER_03 1:04:07

Congrats. Congrats. Congrats. Did any of us got anything to promote? Anything we want to shout out? I know you shouted out the fam.

SPEAKER_04 1:04:15

I know AC finna goddamn do that fish shit again.

SPEAKER_03 1:04:18

The fish.

SPEAKER_04 1:04:19

Whatever that fools.

SPEAKER_03 1:04:21

Talking about JJ? Hey, shout out to, you know, Creeps Famblade, jerk. Keep on doing your thing. Okay. And I'm, you know, shout out Pillars, you know what I'm saying? They showed some love today, man. And also, you know, keep watching us on YouTube. Keep watching this on TikTok, man. We keep growing and growing. We appreciate that, man. And you know, we're going to have that Patreon coming soon, you know, where it's going to get real X rated. But it's going to be off the chain. We're going to we got some more stuff coming up. So he's going to show you some more Stephon Diggs pictures of his back tattoos. That's sick. When it is, I'm not going to say that. Fucking trap stamps. Peace.