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From Scattered Graduate to Strategic Coach: The Neuroscience of Building Confidence in Your 20s with Ismenia Ginebra | Client Story | Ep. 73

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🧠 DISCOVER THE NEUROSCIENCE OF CONFIDENCE IN YOUR 20S

Meet Ismenia Ginebra, a mindset and nervous system regulation coach who went from a lost college graduate to helping women transform their lives through self-study. In this powerful client interview, you'll discover why your 20s are actually the EASIEST time to build unshakeable confidence—and how to do it strategically.

✨ ISMENIA'S TRANSFORMATION: 
→ From working her "dream job" but feeling completely lost 
→ To discovering her calling through coaching and self-study 
→ Built a thriving business helping women in their 20s in just 8 months 
→ Developed the confidence to launch workshops and scale her impact

🎯 WHAT YOU'LL LEARN: 
→ Why your brain's second growth spurt in your 20s is your secret weapon 
→ How to combine prayer, coaching, and self-study for maximum clarity 
→ The "valley of despair" every entrepreneur faces (and how to navigate it) 
→ Why scattered ideas don't mean you need to pivot—you need strategy 
→ How nervous system regulation builds real confidence from the inside out

🧬 THE SCIENCE BEHIND CONFIDENCE IN YOUR 20S: Dr. Meg Jay's research reveals: "Never again will we be so quick to learn new things. Never again will it be so easy to become the people that we want to be." Your prefrontal cortex is still developing, giving you abundant neural pathways for transformation.

🎉 ISMENIA'S UPCOMING WORKSHOP:"The In-Between Workshop: Where you are isn't wrong. It's just not where you thought you'd be"

📍 WORKSHOP DETAILS: • Date: August 21st at 7 PM Eastern • Perfect for: Women in their 20s feeling stuck or uncertain • What you'll learn: Self-study methods, confidence building, and strategic clarity

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→ Instagram: @ismeniaginebra
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Musician: Mari Coetzee 

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Speaker 1:

Welcome back to the Unlock your Genius Zone podcast. It is an absolute pleasure to be here. This is your host, ina Wilmay-Katsia, and today I have a guest with me. Her name is Izminia Jinebra. She is a dear client of mine. We've been working together since February now and Izminia is a mindset and nervous system regulation coach. She specializes in helping women self-study so that their confidence levels can skyrocket and they can become the women that they want to be and who they have been put on this earth to be in their 20s. So it's an absolute pleasure having you here as Minya. I'm so excited for our conversation.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I'm looking forward to it as well. Ina, Thank you for having me.

Speaker 1:

You're so welcome. I'm so excited. I've looked forward to this all week, and the first thing that I am so curious about that I'm sure everybody listening to is as well is your story. How did you become what you are now? Why, women in their 20s? Give us all those details. 20s Give us all those details.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, so the beginning of my story goes back two years ago. I had graduated college, was working at my dream job in the dream field I had studied for, with plans to go back to school to further my education, and halfway through my job I realized this is not what I want to do anymore, and what I really wanted to do was know God's calling on my life. And to feel like I didn't know it at all was very, um, very frightening time. So I, you know, did a lot of praying, I made a Google Doc with all the things I could do to salvage my degree, you know, and but still nothing was really coming to light for me like giving me that next step.

Speaker 2:

Well, around this time, I happened to come across a flyer advertising a retreat for young women to discover and know who they are, and one of the outcomes of going to this retreat, the flyer said, was to discover your next step. And I was like this is exactly what I want. So I signed up for the retreat and it was a transformative of transformative experience. It was my first time really being exposed to knowing yourself, to know God's calling, and in the context of coaching. So two brand new things I'd never seen together before, and that was the beginning of me pursuing coaching as the work that I do now, and through my business journey that I've been on for a little over a year now, I have come to the realization that I want to help give women the same transformed experience I had a couple of years ago. So that is why Women in their 20s because it was so impactful for me that I went to go get the skills that I could then pass on to others.

Speaker 1:

That's so beautiful, isminia, and I've heard you tell various bits of that story over the last few months of working together, but hearing it all together helps me see and highlight kind of the main themes. That's something my brain absolutely loves doing is categorization, and I'm noticing that you experienced coaching alongside prayer, alongside self-study, and it was like all the different categories came together and helped you figure out where God really wanted you instead of just focusing on coaching or just focusing on prayer or just self-study. So it's interesting how you've been so intentional with the coaches you hire, the topics you study. Tell me a little bit more about the topics that you really like to study and what self-study means to you Like. Why is that also important for women in their 20s?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, sure thing. So I believe in, well, I believe very strongly in self-study, because the definition actually can I start over that? Question Okay, question okay, okay. Yeah, you know, I believe in so much in self-study because you know, for so many years when you're in school you are honing that skill to study the subjects that you're learning and when you're really studying something you also get the skills to feel confident in what you're studying. So I'll give you an example One of the majors I studied in college was child development and as I was studying that, what helped me really feel confident in that was, you know, reading up all the research papers to understand something more clearly, getting the internship so I could build the skills to be in that field, and really the sense of confidence just came from studying. Oh, shoot my light. My light went out.

Speaker 1:

Oh no, that's okay. I actually didn't notice a change in your lighting, okay whew, I didn't really notice a big change in your lighting.

Speaker 2:

Oh, really Okay, just feel free to keep going. Yeah, yeah, yeah, your computer adapted.

Speaker 1:

Okay, but pick up where you were. This was a really good thought. You probably knew where you were, mm-hmm.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1:

You're just basically tying why self-study with confidence, right?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, that's where I was going with.

Speaker 1:

So, whatever the next thought is that you think is important, and then I can tie it together with editing.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah and so I would say that experience, like looking back on it, what helped me feel confident and what I was studying was one studying the thing and then building the skills to feel self-assured in what I knew. And so this retreat that I went on was a different experience of that. But setting yourself and I feel that has been a pattern in the things that I have pursued to study more about, such as mindset, nutrition, hormonal health, nervous system and I essentially there is that passion. I, oh shoot, I was on a good roll there.

Speaker 1:

You're doing great. Don't allow yourself to stop, because that's the moment that the um, that the train of thought stops.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, so just slow down slow down instead.

Speaker 1:

It's almost like you're playing a piece of music You're not going to stop, and then everybody else derails, so just keep going.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, my life after college, in the 20s after college, there has been this pattern of studying something, gaining the skills from what you know, and then the confidence coming through that, because I came across one of the definitions of confidence recently and it's the feeling of self-assurance from one's own appreciation of one's own skills and abilities. So, and when you, when I was in my period of not knowing what to do next and those happen more than once in your 20s I can. Now I can you know if there's, you know, stress in that period of time it's like well, I know my nervous system, how it works, because it directly controls our stress response. So I know, you know what states the various states of the nervous system, what skills I can use in each state. So I have the confidence to, and the skills to, navigate that season, because I've learned the thing that has helped me know the skills that I need to move forward. So that is why I am passionate about self-study and have pursued various aspects of learning to do that in my work.

Speaker 1:

That's very interesting and I've experienced you experiencing all the different areas because I remember at one point you were telling me it feels like I'm pivoting constantly, but really what was happening is you were diving deeper in various aspects of self-study.

Speaker 1:

So, going from the mode of how does your menstrual cycle affect decision-making and job interview process and all of those things compared to, for instance, the nervous system regulation, in the end of the day, it's all connected.

Speaker 1:

When you have the pieces connecting, you have the confidence to see it through. So another definition of the word confidence that just it's been on my mind for probably a month is, along with that sense of appreciation, is the root of the word, which is actually confidere, and it's connected to the same word, confidant. So it's like you have this internal trust built up and with you stepping into your genius zone, which is now self-study and helping women actually develop this confidence, you are trusting your ideas more and you're no longer thinking it's pivots. You have that confidence built up because you have stepped into your it's pivots. You have that confidence built up because you have stepped into your genius zone. And I'm just making that connection as well, because this podcast is called Unlock your Genius Zone, and seeing you rise to that level of confidence yourself has just been an absolute delight. You are stepping into that woman that God wanted you to be all along yeah.

Speaker 2:

Thank you, I'm so proud of you Appreciate it a lot.

Speaker 1:

You're so welcome. So you actually have a workshop coming up by the day of this episode being released. It's going to be that same week, four days before, and I would love for you to tell people what it's about, why you created it and really what they can get out of it and who it's for. Whatever details come to mind for you, for that Sure.

Speaker 2:

So I'll start with the title of the workshop. It is called the In-Between Workshop. Where you are isn't wrong, it's just not where you thought you'd be. It's for the faith-led woman in her 20s who wants to feel confidence, without the comparison or pressure that sometimes comes with that decade and what we can expect, to learn just more about what self-study is, why is it a huge asset in your 20s and what can you do with that when you pair that with coaching. So that is the workshop. It is happening August 21st at 7 pm eastern and yeah, that's. I'm really looking forward to those who will show up and attend.

Speaker 1:

That is so exciting and I've seen you develop this over the last two months or so, so there's a lot of wisdom and knowledge that as many as pouring into this experience. So anybody who's listening, who's in their 20s, who maybe you're not even in your 20s but you're feeling this lack of certainty, so register for this workshop. I'll make sure that the link is in the description box and show notes all the different places and we'll make it really easy for you to find. I love that you go deeper on the combination of these different things because in your conversations you're hearing a lot from women saying I want to know what God has for me, I want to know God's plan.

Speaker 1:

I am in prayer. Please pray for me for this, this, this, this, this, and you obviously will, like you, have the most beautiful serving heart and at the same time, you know that there's something more. So what would you say to the woman who is just thinking to herself? I, there's something more. So what would you say to the woman who is just thinking to herself? I am not praying enough, I am not believing enough, I'm not trusting enough, when really there's a missing ingredient somewhere, what would you say to that woman and maybe what is the missing ingredient?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I would say the missing ingredient is a broader or wider lens on the, I'm going to say, maybe, feeling, in this instance, that she may be experiencing. So I'll just use the example of stress, like I did earlier. She feels like she's not doing enough prayer to lessen or reduce the amount of stress in her life. To lessen or reduce the amount of stress in her life, you know, something that's really connected to stress is our nervous system, and so knowing that there gives you the opportunity, presents you the opportunity to have more than one way of approaching what you're experiencing, and so, really, the ability to have a broader, more diverse lens around how to go about approaching certain things really enables you to feel more free and more capable, that you have the skills and the options to really take care of what it is that or handle what it is that you're experiencing. If you, as opposed to just having one, and because you just have one, you feel like, oh my gosh, if I don't do this, well then, like what else am I going to do?

Speaker 1:

Yeah, it gives you hope to have that extra layer of skill set and to know that, yes, prayer is the root of a lot of things.

Speaker 1:

Prayer is incredibly important and faith without works is dead. We have to take action in a way to complement what we're praying about. Otherwise, it's almost like we're in this waiting passive game Instead of taking control of the things. We can control our actions and our attitude and moving forward with certainty. Moving forward with uncertainty because we have that confidence. So that's why I love what you do. And another thing that I have been just kind of thinking about as you're talking something that came up is what has been your experience with the different modes of coaching. So I know that you are life coach certified. You've done sales training, storytelling training, like all this different coaching in the last year. What has been your experience with diving into coaching in so many different areas?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, that's a great question, you know.

Speaker 2:

It reminds me what of what you're asking me.

Speaker 2:

My first thought goes to the book who, not how, by the team Dr Benjamin Hardy and Dan Sullivan, and one of the things that these two men talk about in their book is how your potential and capacity for you as a person, how it expands when you find, like, the right person to help you with what you're trying to figure out Like that, how piece of like, how do I do this, how do I do that?

Speaker 2:

You know, if you just keep your like, not keep yourself, but just don't look for a person to help you with that, then it falls onto you and that just creates a lot of pressure and your perspective on what you can do is very limited because you don't know. You don't know. And then when you so, when you go find a who to do this, you not you have the access to that other person's knowledge and skillset and the proximity to learn from them. So I would say that's been a pattern in the coaches that I have had is feeling like my potential has expanded as a business owner, as a coach, because the whole process has not felt like it's been up to me to figure out. So that's what I would say has been my experience there.

Speaker 1:

That's very interesting and, as someone who has gone through phases of life without coaches, with coaches, it develops your confidence. That's why Isminia's workshop is going to be so powerful. It's going to show the power of all of these different tools you can use so you don't have to be alone. You don't have to go through your 20s Almost like you're kicked out of the nest after you put on that cap. You move over the ribbon and you're done. It's like what's happening here, but there really is a way that the women who Asminia wants to work with and is working with can feel that camaraderie and have the direction. So that's one of the other reasons I'm so excited for everybody who's going to experience it. Yeah, note, my computer needs to be plugged in. I totally forgot.

Speaker 1:

give me one sec okay there we go as you were talking at riverside, was giving me a notification. Oh yeah, everything's good, though still good nightmares from last week revisiting me, yeah, okay.

Speaker 1:

So what I'm gonna do now, just so you know, is I'm gonna go a little bit more into your like testimony of uh working with me, my coaching that sort of thing, and then we'll kind of do the looking forward piece and, uh, we'll be done probably at the 35 ish mark, like I'll probably think of more questions, um, about your business, okay, okay, thank you for sharing all of that as many. That is truly fascinating because you have been someone who's been so intentional with choosing who to work with and I have to say I'm really curious what has been your experience with my particular program? How would you describe it? What has been your biggest takeaway?

Speaker 2:

Mm-hmm, yeah, I man so many takeaways, or main takeaway is that there is so much power in strategy and having someone who can map that out for you, and I feel like that's where I have leaned on you in a number of ways for that, because you and I come from the same sales training world and you've been in it for much longer than me, so for you to have had the repetition of these skills has been so beneficial for me to see the application of them, because learning them and applying them are two very different things. So I would say that has been a huge takeaway for me is being able to apply the things that I am learning so I can feel the momentum and that I am going up in business as opposed to staying stagnant and stuck.

Speaker 1:

Thank you for saying that. And that really is one of my goals is with each client, to guide them through the next step and to challenge them just enough where they still feel the confidence, the capability, the coaching, because the confidence comes from the coaching, the coaching because the confidence comes from the coaching, as many has said but also pull you into a new realm of discovery about yourself. So not just telling you the strategy I'm like, okay, here's what I would do if I were to launch a workshop, um, outside too, but also helping you build the resilience to getting out of your comfort zone. And on that note, I remember when we were just kind of chatting about this interview, you mentioned something about this moment that it kind of all came together for you. It was a hard moment. It was like a very emotional, almost valley of despair that's the phrase I use. Tell me more about that, how, what really happened in that moment for you?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I, you know, I would say it was just doing a lot of things I hadn't done before, and when you are in that phase of business excuse me, really just life in general you feel incapable and like, do I know how to do this?

Speaker 2:

It's kind of it's a funny you know feeling to describe.

Speaker 2:

I will never forget, though, the reframe you gave me for when I was feeling those valley of despair feelings, and you'd said that you know despair feelings, and you'd said that you know, when you're in a point of feeling uncomfortable and and just really stretched, you are hitting a new level in business growth, and that was a was really needed in the moment like that for me, because I could easily think that these feelings were a demonstration of my, like, lack of ability and, yeah, just not being equipped enough to handle what comes with entrepreneurship.

Speaker 2:

So to hear it framed as this is a sign of a good thing, that you're hitting another level of business that you haven't been in before, which really demonstrates that you're growing, that was a really key moment for me. And, to also add to it, it's really nice to have someone who can validate and say, like this is normal, like this is part of the process and this isn't you know, you're not in some unique experience, you're not. It's just not you who's feeling this in business. Like every entrepreneur goes through cycles in this and and to know that it is a cyclical, in some ways it helps with the expectancy of knowing that this is gonna be someplace I'm gonna find myself in again. So, having that in mind, it doesn't throw me off the next time it happens.

Speaker 1:

Well, thank you for saying that. First of all, that means so much. It just warms my heart and second of all, it makes me think about all the different levels of entrepreneurs that I've spoken to in the last, like how many years Eight years of being an entrepreneur Every single one and if anybody listening to this is feeling perhaps the growing pains every single entrepreneur, no matter the level that they're at, has felt what Asminia is describing that valley of despair. It just depends on what they are dealing with in that particular season. So in the first year of entrepreneurship, you are dealing with uncertainty and this feeling of your skill set is so lacking for the ideas and the dreams you have and the people you want to serve. It's so behind and it's an intense learning journey. But somebody who has a 10-figure business they are dealing with a team who's maybe experiencing emotional turmoil in their families and needing to support them financially. It's a whole different ballgame, but it's the same emotions. So if you can find a way and work, find somebody who can help reframe the feelings you're feeling that are going to be consistent throughout the entire entrepreneurship journey, then you're able to succeed, no matter what's happening. It sometimes starts with a feeling, and I have this gut feeling. I need to finish this thought, so I'm just going to finish this story.

Speaker 1:

When I was 18, I was about to start my first business, I listened to Rachel Hollis' book Girls, stop Apologizing, and she had this chapter on goal setting and she said okay, think about what is your long-term goal. Think about what you really want your life to look like the details, the lifestyle, the financial side, all the things. And then imagine that you're there already. What's the feeling you have there? Is it excitement? Is it joy, peace, tranquility? Be very specific, capture that feeling and apply to your life now, because ultimately, it doesn't matter what you've experienced, what you've achieved, it's more about the feeling.

Speaker 1:

So if you can take the negative feelings too this is kind of my twist on things If you can take the negative feelings too and flip them on their head so that you see it's not something to be avoided, it's something to be celebrated and experienced at every level, then you can get through the valley of despair. So, anyways, I just had this feeling. I needed to go on that tangent. Yeah, I was also curious, as Minya is where were you before we started working together, compared to where you are now. How would you describe that before and after?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I would say before I was full to the brim with a lot of ideas for my business um while also feeling scattered and with a lack of direction of how to go about applying them.

Speaker 2:

And the other place I think I would say about before that I was in was just to come back what I was saying a little earlier, when I had been at four months in the sales training program and I feel like at that point I had, you know, dug deep into the learning but didn't have the application of it yet.

Speaker 2:

So I would say I was in a place too of just wanting to apply but not really having the strategy, the confidence to do them like, to apply them.

Speaker 2:

So I would say, yeah, in general, just maybe a lack of inaction in many areas in my business, as well as the feeling of all like being all over the place. Uh, and now I would say, after you know where I am now in business, is feeling a lot more equipped to know how to apply, um, the skills that I've learned, and not only sales, but with you and storytelling. I would also say that I am more, more resilient in just the again, just knowing that the feelings and entrepreneurship aren't one and done so, feeling like there I have the skills to you know, encounter and be with the with the hard stuff as well as the good stuff too in business. And and then, lastly, I would say, just definitely feeling like there is strategy in my business with how to talk to people, how to do what I'm doing right now, like setting up a webinar, a workshop, and yeah, that's what I would say is my before and after.

Speaker 1:

It's interesting hearing it from your perspective in this moment, because I've seen your before and after. I can say it a million different ways, but hearing it from you means so much because you're the one who has experienced it and I concur wholeheartedly. You have a different level of confidence and clarity now than when we were on that call in February. It's like there's a light in your eyes when you talk about the future, as opposed to this uncertainty and fear. Yeah, and fear.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah, there's more hope. And when there's power in the present, no, no, no. What's that John Maxwell quote? When there is hope for the future, there is power in the present. So I love how you're describing it as taking more action, but also in such a strategic way where you have hope for the future. You know that it's all building towards the future that you want now, yeah, and that makes me so happy. It's like mission accomplished. If this minute can feel the confidence and this hope for the future, then anything is possible in the present. So thank you, you, thank you for sharing that. You're welcome. And speaking of the future, what are you most excited about in business right now? If you think about where you want your business to go, what are you? What comes to mind?

Speaker 2:

yeah, I would say this workshop, looking forward to doing that for the first time and as well as in the future, because doing like iterations of that, I'm really looking forward to building that skill because I see myself right now this workshop is one day, but I do see a version of this happening over the course of a couple of days, so I'm really looking forward to honing the skills in this process so I can put on the workshop that I envision for the future.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I would also say I am looking forward to honestly live sales training experience and being in the room with everyone that I've met over the last year and kind of learn, like learning the skills in that sort of environment, live in person, looking forward to the insights and breakthroughs and, you know, light bulbs there. And one last thing I'll say that I'm looking forward to is just getting to know my ideal customer more, because that is important, the key to how I want to approach my work, and I can only do that when I know my ideal customers. So I'm looking forward to getting to know her more through these experiences like workshops.

Speaker 1:

I love that and that is why I'm always telling you your heart is in the right place. You have such a serving heart because you care about your ideal customer. When we say ideal customer, it's such a business-y type of language, yeah, but you care about the person you went into business for. That's the interesting thing about most of the people that I work with is you have this person that you want to help so badly. You can almost not even articulate why sometimes, because it's so deep and emotional, but you just know that you are willing to do what it takes to help that person. And I'm curious how do you articulate your why, like? Why do you want to learn and hone the skill of doing these workshops? Why does it matter to you to invest in coaching? What's the deeper why behind the emotional sacrifice, the time you put in? What is that for you?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I would say my deep why is for this stage of life, thes to be different than what people make it out to be or say. That is like really shifting the language around this decade, you know, language of like, you don't know what you're doing, or you, you know, are to feel stressed and overwhelmed all the time. I really, you know the passion I feel for this decade is because it's the first one you have after you've been in years of schooling. And what's interesting about this decade? Because, contrary to what people say about this decade, this the 20 we are given the opportunity of making so many neural pathways that are shoot. I'm thinking I want to do that answer again.

Speaker 1:

Oh, that's okay. You know that this is like very exciting for me to talk about the neuroscience of it. So yeah, what about the brain changes in the 20s yeah, the brain in the 20s is.

Speaker 2:

It has a lot to do with the development of our prefrontal cortex. That is like the last region of our brains to develop and in that time period we are given in a body gives us an abundance of neural pathways essentially these opportunities to make connections um around things that we want to do. Dr meg j I'm thinking of her quote in her book the defining decade, where she says these words about, about the decades like never again will be so quick to learn new things, never again will it be so easy to become the people that we want to be. So you know, that definitely plays a part in my deep why for the work that I do, because we are given this gift in our 20s and the language around it right now doesn't really match the opportunity that we have in our 20s, the opportunity that is in our God-given design. So that is where I feel a lot of passion for my work.

Speaker 1:

I absolutely love that you bring that up, because I've also studied a lot about how people kind of delay their lives. They see the 20s almost as an experimentation period of their lives, which is true. You absolutely can experiment and I certainly have with entrepreneurship but I am so grateful that I was exposed to a different way of thinking when I was about 18 or 19 and I made the decision this is when my life really starts. I'm not going to wait till after I graduate. I'm not going to wait till after I get married. I'm not going to wait, just not going to wait.

Speaker 1:

That was the decision I made and that put me in this point in time where I was or a mindset rather, of experimentation very intentionally, and I made a decision that I was not going to come to my 30s with regrets and I hear that from so many women as they come to age 30 and they have this midlife crisis more like a third of their life crisis, because they are not excited about what they accomplished in their 20s. They don't have the confidence that, in fact, their confidence goes down in their 30s. But the vision, this beautiful, extraordinary vision that you are presenting as Minya, is that it doesn't have to be that way that you can arrive at age 30, knowing you made the absolute most of your 20s. So I'm just so excited but this is me basically jumping out of my chair. I'm so excited for everybody who's going to experience this and to end our interview here. I always ask my guests how would you describe your genius zone? That is always my last question here.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I would describe my genius stone as that's okay.

Speaker 1:

A lot of times I've messed up my own podcast name.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, you're really bad, all right, yes, I would say my genius zone is helping women know themselves more through learning their God-given design from mindset to hormonal health, to nervous system regulation, sensory preference and from that learning, build the skills that equip them to apply that learning and, in that applying and equipping, develop the confidence that they so desperately want and dream about, because they know that that is what will help them achieve the things that they want to do at what somebody is lacking, kind of analyze what are the systems and the skills that they need in order to succeed and where are the weak spots, where is the strengths and then, through self-study in the right areas, you can really pull that out of them, pull out the gold and uncover that, because of really equip them to uncover that, because that's what self-study is all about.

Speaker 1:

So I agree, I would say that that's also your genie zone, from working with you and helping coach you through conversations with women who need the work that you are doing. So I'm so excited for you, and so I'll put the link for your workshop in the description box show notes. And where else can people find you if they just want to learn more about what you do, maybe even have a conversation with you?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, the best place to find me is my Instagram. My handle is my first and last name, all lowercase, and I'm always happy to chat in the DMs with people who want to know more about what I do.

Speaker 1:

And special note, as many as amazing at voice messages. Her heart shines through, so send her voice message and I'm sure she will reply with a voice message, One thing that we absolutely love to do around here. So well, thank you for this delightful conversation. This is just such a highlight of my day. Thank you, Ina. Yeah.

Speaker 1:

I'll have to have you back on the podcast in like a few months see where you're at, maybe early 2026. We'll see. Yeah, I always like to do follow-up episodes with people. Okay Well, have a wonderful rest of your days, Minya, and then everybody listening and watching here have a beautiful day filled with taking action courageously.