Have you ever considered the sheer unpredictability of a good laugh, or why some conversations, quirky as they may be, stick with us long after they're done? Join Peyton and me as we kick off with a chuckling debate on the humorous traits that make a partner intriguing, only to find ourselves wading into the deeper waters of male loneliness and depression. Our candid narratives shed light on the power of camaraderie and the critical need for reaching out—because everyone, at some point, needs a helping hand.
Shifting from the personal to the professional, we tackle the weighty issues that law enforcement officers face daily, from the ethical mazes to the personal toll of high-stake decisions. This episode also slices through the complex fabric of child support and custody, questioning the scales of fairness and justice. Sprinkled with our own musings on accountability and the rigorous training of those in uniform, this conversation is both a reality check and a mirror to society's intricate design.
Wrapping things up, we dive—without clichés—into the art of personal development and the significance of the company we choose. In an exchange rich with life lessons, we reveal how the right friendships can shape ambitions and how certain risks can lead to fulfilling careers. As we bid farewell, we revisit a whimsical, yet oddly memorable debate from a festive dinner party, proving that even the most bizarre topics can leave a lasting imprint. So, tune in for an episode that's as diverse in themes as it is rich in insight—where every turn in the conversation is a step towards understanding the complex human tapestry.
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Have you ever considered the sheer unpredictability of a good laugh, or why some conversations, quirky as they may be, stick with us long after they're done? Join Peyton and me as we kick off with a chuckling debate on the humorous traits that make a partner intriguing, only to find ourselves wading into the deeper waters of male loneliness and depression. Our candid narratives shed light on the power of camaraderie and the critical need for reaching out—because everyone, at some point, needs a helping hand.
Shifting from the personal to the professional, we tackle the weighty issues that law enforcement officers face daily, from the ethical mazes to the personal toll of high-stake decisions. This episode also slices through the complex fabric of child support and custody, questioning the scales of fairness and justice. Sprinkled with our own musings on accountability and the rigorous training of those in uniform, this conversation is both a reality check and a mirror to society's intricate design.
Wrapping things up, we dive—without clichés—into the art of personal development and the significance of the company we choose. In an exchange rich with life lessons, we reveal how the right friendships can shape ambitions and how certain risks can lead to fulfilling careers. As we bid farewell, we revisit a whimsical, yet oddly memorable debate from a festive dinner party, proving that even the most bizarre topics can leave a lasting imprint. So, tune in for an episode that's as diverse in themes as it is rich in insight—where every turn in the conversation is a step towards understanding the complex human tapestry.
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Hey everybody, welcome back to another episode of the Fool Spectrum Podcast. In today's episode, me and Peyton Chit Chat about what qualities a woman should look for in a man, the importance of sticking up for people and our main topic, male loneliness and depression. All that and more coming up, so let's go ahead and slide into that intro music. Alright, we are live or not live. That was five seconds.
Speaker 2:One Mississippi.
Speaker 1:Oh, okay, whatever, the point is the episode where we're in Mississippi.
Speaker 2:Okay, five Mississippi Alright, now we are live Alright. Now I would like to bring up the fact that, after our recording Monday, when we were out walking how you just sprinted up a tree, for the most part what do you? Mean Barefoot just climbed up a tree. Yeah, no limbs, no limbs either.
Speaker 1:Yes, because I'm a man. Dude Men, don't just do that. Dude, Real men, dude Real men, Real men, Like, ideally like. For you ladies out there, give you a piece of advice If you're a man can just like climb a tree with no limbs like a little skinny tree and just climb up there like a wild animal, like the tree, has no limbs, or the man has no limbs.
Speaker 2:The tree has no limbs.
Speaker 1:The man will need limbs. That's pretty impressive, yeah, but the man will need limbs to do this. You need to get after it, that man is a prime specimen for breeding.
Speaker 1:Alright, your kids are going to be hairy, they're going to be fierce, they're going to be a force to be reckoned with. Alright, that's who you want to let in your port. Your sea port is sacred and it should only call the good ships home, and those good ships are meant to become skinny trees, shirtless like a wild animal. That's who you want in there In the sea port. Dude, I'm telling you we make a sexual education course, yeah of course.
Speaker 2:I mean, we could end up doing that at some point. I could also like no, you asked me, but I realized I don't think I asked you. Where do you get your inspiration from? No, yeah, like for what? Just life, Just day to day basis. You keep pushing through.
Speaker 1:you know what I'm saying I guess I do do that, To be honest with you, it's mainly just for other people. I have goals and stuff that I want to do in life, but, like when it really comes down to it, if I know I can help somebody else or help other people, that's what I do. Just recently I had a friend that I used to put tennis tennis with reach out to me and he said he was going through some stuff in his mind and what he said is exactly stuff I've been through and I was. I think I was able to help him, at least maybe a little bit. I hope I was, but anyways, it just felt good that I didn't go all that pain and all that suffering for nothing like all the shit I dealt with in my head in my past, like I, there's a reason for it and that that's what keeps me up in the morning. Really. It's so no one. I can help other people because they're not really got a reason to live.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean that's a good reason. It's very true, true to yourself, especially when it comes to like knowing people have shared the same experiences as you. You know.
Speaker 1:Yeah, well, it's not just that, I just are just going through what you went through. Well, yeah, it's, it's. I see it as my job to fight for other people that can't stand up for themselves. When I was 11 and starting puberty so when the old oysters or start making the baby fuel around that time yeah, my dad told me and his dad told him, his dad before him told him.
Speaker 1:What the baby always serve. Not that, not that. That's a no original. Now he set me down and told me there's three types of people in this world. There's the sheep, who go around and you know they eat the grass, they mind their own business, but they, they can't stick up for themselves, they can't fight off. And the wolves. And the wolves will go and pray on the sheet because they're easy prey. They know if they can kill them very easily and the sheep can't fight back. And then there's the sheepdog, and the sheepdog can stick up for himself. He's got teeth. He doesn't use them, you know all the time. He uses them when he needs to. Well, it's time to sheepdogs, you know, just chilling out by a shady tree, wherever. But if a wolf comes by and threatens to hurt the sheep, the sheepdog growls and he'll fight off as many wolves as he needs to to keep the sheep safe.
Speaker 2:I think that's a great time to mention your shepherd idea.
Speaker 1:That's why I got that. That's why I'm getting that tattoo. Yeah, yeah, this is. My dad told me how he said be the sheepdog, don't be the sheep, don't be the wolf, be the sheepdog. So that's why I'm, you know, and I'm not necessarily saying you, it's a metaphor, so I'm not literally necessarily saying you got to. You know, bite and beat the shit out of people to stay, and sometimes that might be necessary, you know, to use physical violence. You know you, sometimes you got to be that dangerous man, beat him down, yeah, but pause. Anyways, this isn't. Oh, man, we made a gay. Now, dude, how? Because you said beat him down. No, I was thinking a gay way. Of course you were.
Speaker 1:Yeah but no, sometimes you do have to be stand up, but you can. If you're not able to do that or you know it's not required for all situations, certainly and think about something for a second before you do something, before you act. It's pause and think. That's just great life advice in general. Pause and think, trust me. So, like you know, part of what I think is I only use physical violence. I absolutely have to. You know someone about stab my wife? Then I'm going to step in, obviously, your reactions a little a little over like exaggerate what do you mean I swear there's days where I'll just like like well, that's not about that.
Speaker 1:That's not about that's just me being a try to knock me out. Well, that's just me being a skittish person, like that's just me being kind of like paranoid on those, but that's not about that, that's just not be a good cop. No, that's what you know, I got told this story. I'm not really sure if it's true, but apparently like an acorn fell in this cops hood and shot somebody. Yeah, that's all that. Yeah, that's the wild.
Speaker 2:Well, like the acorn landed on the cops car as he was walking by it and he heard that and thought he got shot, and so he dropped on the ground and screaming that he was hit. He was hit, yeah.
Speaker 1:And so the other officer shot the person. Okay, that's what happened, dude, that's I mean. Condolences that person, this family. But like, how the hell do you I'm sorry you hear an acorn when? I'm like, I'm like you got to be so embarrassed Like there's, like Dave, that's so wild, like if I was that guy's friend, I don't even know.
Speaker 2:Like there's just no way, especially for it to cause a person's life.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's wild, I don't know. If I was that guy, I don't know, it'd be really hard for me to come back from that. That's Dave, could you? But I would not. I'll say one that I would not want to go to war with that guy.
Speaker 2:Well, actually in that scenario, would so this the other officer like, but the other officer be responsible for it?
Speaker 1:What? The one that shot him the murder? Yeah, I mean, I guess so, but I don't know. Dude, that's, that's a weird situation, because that officer is trained to do like think about it from that scenario, If it were to happen. From his position, he hears, hears. Unhit by his buddy right, he is a female female buddy.
Speaker 1:Friendship or shot. Okay, yeah, he hears unhit from his fellow officer, right, that he's unpatrolled with. He doesn't have time to think about oh what if that was an acorn that actually hit early? No, he just has to react by key, that's you have to have trust with your officer. That's the point. Like you don't have time to think about it, in that situation, you just have to react and shoot. So, man, that officer did that officer, did you know their job? Yeah?
Speaker 2:you respond?
Speaker 1:with equal force. Yeah, that's gonna suck, though. If you were the one that shot it thing, yeah, I'd be so pissed at the other officer like you thought you got hit by an acorn, like what I wouldn't just be pissed at the other officer.
Speaker 2:I'd probably so if it costed, and I would hope you could sue in some way or something if it affected you. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1:I wouldn't sue. I don't really believe in sewing unless it's absolutely necessary.
Speaker 2:So like thinking they got shot, but they didn't.
Speaker 1:Well, yeah, I would want them in somebody's life. So sue, I would sue if it costed that court fees. That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2:Yeah, court fees yeah.
Speaker 1:Then you, then I would sue, yeah, but I wouldn't. I wouldn't like sue them just to like, oh, I mean terrible situation, but I want to sue them just so like they could pay for like my life, so I could go chill out, you know, and not worry. I don't think you can how. You mean like just enough to cover it? Yeah, I would sue just enough to cover what I think they owe me, which would be the court.
Speaker 2:Well, like normal person, they'd be like scarred by that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, oh, I mean, I would definitely, I would definitely be scarred by that, yeah, but that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2:That person would yeah, but I don't think they owe yeah but I'm not going to take money from them.
Speaker 1:Like you know, at the end of the day, like that was a terrible situation, that officer, frankly, shouldn't have been an officer. I'm not trained properly, but so I'll make mistakes, man, and they shouldn't have to. I mean that.
Speaker 2:I mean Must be like a high-tent situation for someone that yeah.
Speaker 1:Somebody to react that way. It's just so you shouldn't have been officer. If you can't stay calm, if you can, yeah. If you can't stay calm, cool, but also willing to make that split second decision that splits that decision needs to be a good one. That's just like you know, in a high stress situation for any like first responders or soldiers or whatever they have to be like that. And if you can't be that person and there's no shame in a lot of people can't that's a very hard thing to do and it takes a lot of mental practice to do. I think people can get to that point but it takes a lot of mental practice and discipline and like building those calluses on their, their mind. But if you're not willing to do that or you just can't, then don't be. A first responder is older, you know.
Speaker 1:Yeah but yeah, that is crazy though, but no, I still wouldn't sue them just to get money for like me. I feel like that's, I feel like that's wrong, I mean.
Speaker 2:Like I think it kind of like goes like the child's poor thing. We're like. We're like if two people are together, right, and they have a kid, yeah, and then one let's say the mom does not want to be with the dad anymore but, he hasn't done anything like bad or you know he hasn't he didn't cause it. Yeah, I think that mom just wanting to split up and then the dad having to pay child support I think that's crazy.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean, that is kind of wall, I mean differently.
Speaker 2:I'd want to pay child support, but if he couldn't, and then she was forcing it- yeah, I mean there's there needs to be more reasonable child support too.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I think it's his, though it's still his responsibility to help care for that child. Yeah, you know, definitely is, but the child support is outrageous. Now, dude, like some of these guys are paying, it's a wild, yeah, especially once you get like over two kids.
Speaker 1:Yeah, two kids is an insane line and you know like, only like the I'm this night. This might not be like a hundred percent accurate, but it's only like 10% of Custodial's actually won by the fathers. It's probably less than that. Yeah, probably is. I mean I can find out by default a lot of courts just like, just like.
Speaker 2:They're like well, of course we're gonna have to.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I don't know it is side of the woman unlike which parent would end up in the better scenario. Yeah, but it rarely is like I'm biased, okay, so it's actually a little bit a higher. It's higher, but they they're oh, less than 4% wait in. In 91% of custody cases, the parents mutually decide to give the custody to the mother. Okay, mutually. Father's fight for custody in court and less than 4% of divorce. So father's only fight in less than 4%. So I mean, looking at that, you know that's a different.
Speaker 2:They would have to fight for yeah, which probably wouldn't 91% of cases.
Speaker 1:Yeah, because that is true, a lot of my. There's a lot of money in that, a lot of money in custody battles, and if the fathers have Truly have the best interest of the kids at heart, then they're gonna be like, well, I'm gonna use this money to help my kids. It or I gotta pay.
Speaker 2:All these people are like, oh well, the kids gonna need the mother.
Speaker 1:Yeah, exactly so I Mean. You know sad statistic, but that's life, man, you can't look at life to a too seriously sometimes.
Speaker 2:Just taking for what it is. Yeah, sometimes you can't, you, can't, you can't. 12 on Certain things.
Speaker 1:You got to find some some meaning in it, man, like when you see a rooster humping them out, bumping them out and do model. There's a whole new bottle, yes.
Speaker 2:You said model.
Speaker 1:You said Dude, I don't know if Mountain Dew models exist, but I want that woman. Man, that is like the woman of my dreams. Did you imagine like it's?
Speaker 2:like a woman in like a mountain? Do you wrap why? You know like a bottle Thanks. She's got like that.
Speaker 1:I've already busted. My pants are wet.
Speaker 2:Dude, no cuz. You're stuck here, man, you're separate, you can't go anywhere. What I'm being driven, I was saying you're stuck right there in this chair. I know you're not, but yeah.
Speaker 1:I was all right. Well, anyway, yeah, I'm a. If I ever have a like a wife one day to, which is another set of challenges in itself for me to actually get married. But if my wife's dude wearing like some Mountain Dew laundry on her red night dude, she's got me for life. Man, that's so hot, I don't know about that happening though, because like Mountain Dew laundry.
Speaker 2:Most women are over like darker pepper.
Speaker 1:now I see a lot of a lot of videos of women being like I hear, if you're man, a drink, a doctor pepper, you know anyway, her say is Well, I really wouldn't talk about like specifically male loneliness and oppression, the reason like I'm not including the females, or you know, the middle of the spectrums that it's.
Speaker 1:We don't necessarily know, yeah, that's, that's, that's what I'm about to say. It's like I am not a woman, you know, I've, I've done I don't know if any of you all out there watch the office I've done the thing, you know. And Michael talks about pretending to be a woman, where he kind of tucks himself back and Looks himself in the mirror. I've done that personally and, yes, it is very uncomfortable and I did not feel any type of way about that. So I'm, I cannot relate to you, ladies, and your own troubles and your own experiences. So just to let you know, I'm not just. We mean painting both or not disregarding any struggles or Experiences or issues women may have in society. But we can only speak for men because that is our experience and you know I have talked to different women. But I would like to have a female on the show at some point to talk about women's strokes. Yeah, and not that I. I can't have a general idea of what they may be or, you know, understand them if I had different women talk about them to me. It's just not a strong point for either of us because we both do not have the nine as, unfortunately. Well, fortunately, fortunately, fortunately.
Speaker 1:I don't really want a vagina. Yeah, I'd be kind of uncomfortable, that's. It's weird, though It'd be, it'd be unique. Yeah, could you imagine, dude? Could you imagine imagine what? Like just walking around with a hole down there, dude, I mean, I know we have one, but like it's even more, like I feel worried about getting violated, like Dude. I'd be shoving stuff up there, though. If I was, if I was a girl, I Dude, if I was a girl, I had A vagina, dude, I'd be shoving all sorts of shit. I'd be like what cannot fit in here today. I was like I could fit seven cans of mountain dew Caesar's going up in there there. Yes, she's, it's man knives. You know, branded I'd be. I'd be out like I spend some time in nature. I'll go out by the creek, you know, I'd be shoving rocks up there. Dude, let me see if I can put this man there. Dude, dude, that's like a.
Speaker 2:I'm about to get really. We just got a session with stuffing things in the holes, dude For us. And if we were women, like I'm just I'm good, funny because like we had penis is yes.
Speaker 1:Well, yeah, that's why I got to say it yeah. Yeah, it's like what we're bred to do, like just to reproduce. That is Just from a reproduction standpoint. We are bred to shove shit in the holes. Yeah, some men aren't good at it. Surprise, you think it's easy. Some men aren't good at it. Me and Peyton are both skilled in that room. Oh, but no, like dude, could you imagine if you had a minnow and, like you, shoved it in there? I'd be like a Natural by because it'd be flopping around, did?
Speaker 2:just remember my, my mom does listen to this.
Speaker 1:My mom listens to this too. That's. That's the basic. Worse dude. I was messing with her the other day and I said that. I said I got a real pregnant in milledville and she said no, you didn't. You said you were a virgin on your podcast.
Speaker 2:I'm like oh.
Speaker 1:I thought you were gonna keep that Dude. No, she knows, because she said I appreciate it. But she said no, you didn't, because you said you were a virgin on your podcast. I'm like you watched it. She's like, yeah, I did. But anyways, back to today's actual topic is I want to talk about, like I said, male loneliness and oppression, and and I was saying I don't know if my mom watches the podcast, but I know she follows.
Speaker 2:Yeah anything you or we clip. Yes, she can see.
Speaker 1:So, just, we don't have to clip that part. But yeah, we'll cut the parts before, but not the fish vibrator. It's a good business idea, but anyways, uh, oh, is it my tingler? Yeah, look at that. Oh, yeah, it's a class, but anyways, uh, yeah. So from your experience, like I know, necessarily you haven't told me you Necessarily felt like you've ever, like had a period in your life where you've hated yourself.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'm really dark.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but I feel like you've known people that have yeah besides me, so like I don't know what. What's your opinion or just advice in general to those people like I.
Speaker 2:Mean, I don't know. It really comes to the friend group. You know what I'm saying. I think friends are some of the most crucial parts of somebody's life. You really, you really have to try and perfect your judgment as as good as you can. It like it's can't be more blunt than that. You, just your judgment is key when it comes to that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I agree, like definitely having Having a really good judge about who you surround yourself with, that we're trying to say yeah, yeah, but what would you say to somebody that doesn't have Great friends or any friends at all, like at that time? Because there's plenty people like that, because we friends are very hard.
Speaker 2:I mean, I've had good experiences when it comes to like certain friends and friend groups.
Speaker 1:I've had I'd say the majority of bad experiences and some good, like. If I were to like divide into a percentage. Yeah, I've like friends and then friends groups. I've had like a few people that I'm going okay, they were good friend, but a lot of friends like I've had of you know, stab me in the back or really pretend to be your friend but when you need them they just don't really want you around is more of. I think a lot of people you know have that more.
Speaker 2:So that experience you know, yeah, but I'm just saying that people need to like there's no harm and cutting ties with somebody. I know it could affect you, but it will always benefit you and the future just will. I've never been friends with somebody long enough that I thought would just not end up good for me.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and, and if people like are dragging you down, I'll say this this is kind of how I judge a potential mate.
Speaker 1:So they don't agree with them, yeah, but if your friends are Distracting you from your goals, if they're dragging you down, obviously, if they're negative, if you feel like they're a weight, they're pulling you away from your goals, then it's probably time to cut, like Peyton said, cut ties with that person, because if they're not, your friends are there to help you Grow and be better. That's just relationships in general where that's your spouse, your friend, you know, whatever your relationships are there to help you Grow and you, you, to also help them grow, to be there for each other. Because life's hard guys, it really is, but it's easier if you have a support room and if you don't have anybody like that, then they're not worth having rounds. The honest truth and I know that sounds harsh, but it's, I think, better in the long run it is because you need to think of life as like a gift or a blessing.
Speaker 2:You just yeah you do. That's like the best way to look at it and you don't want to waste it with the wrong people for sure. Yeah, that's, that's very true. I'm like some people say the average age is like 70, 75 or something. So when you think about it you think of like that's 70 winners, 70 summer, 70 spring, 70s falls, it's a lot of extra cycles when you think about it like that. It's not really a long time.
Speaker 1:Yeah, no, no, yeah, yeah, no, yeah, I guess you're right.
Speaker 2:So many winters, think about in the seasons you know yeah, and so like you can make your mistakes and Gain experience from that, as long as you learn from it. But if you stick with certain people, then they're gonna be there with you and they'll try to tag along or try to Leach, and just you really just need to yeah away from it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you don't want leeches, you want what's something that pumps something into you. That pause, but you know what I mean. Like Animal that pumps up something in, that's good. You know, there's a, like every venomous, but there's a spider that actually, if when it bites you, it gives you an hour Long erection, you want the erection spider, you don't want the leeches. Yep, the erection spider, that's what you would, but no more serious note like yeah, I, I, I completely agree with you and I do think I actually keep one of those in my bedside really yeah, let's get it.
Speaker 1:Your face is in the mic. You're swallowing it, swallowing the mic, not me. I thought I needed to be there. I don't think anybody was like yes, it does, I need dude. They can't see it. I don't know what's happening right now. Please start saying gay things. They're just gonna start imagining you know Some weird sex scene D and it's like we have to clarify that.
Speaker 2:You know it's easily avoidable. Just don't say you're swallowing it.
Speaker 1:That's one way to do it. I don't think like that much anyways. But back, okay, just Just back to the topic. I'm gonna say something a little bit diverter what you're saying, but if you are, you know, feel like it. Actually Theo Vaughn said this.
Speaker 1:What Theo Vaughn here, he said, if you feel like you're alone, it's it's not a feeling of you, feel like you have nobody, it feels like you nobody has you, which is very true. And if you feel like that, you feel like nobody has you, my best advice you to keep putting one foot in front of the other. Yeah, if you're struggling mentally and you just, you know, for me I personally would feel like really happy some days, like, but I, when I got happy, wasn't true happiness or joy, it just be like I'd be so excited about something. I get ain't really anxious and that would smile down. I just I hated it that I get really depressed and sad over and over again and I Did do a lot of different things to help that, actually external things that helped me get better, and I did have just some better friends come along. But my point is that you got to keep putting one foot in front of the other every day. I know it's gonna seem like you're going nowhere, but just keep putting one foot in front of the other and I tell you what you do need, if you feel that way, is that you need Change, and the only person that knows the best what type of change you need is you, and the hard part about that it's easier said than done is you have to find out what that change is, and that's done through a lot of different Experiments with different things in your own life and trying different things. But you do need change and it's gonna take a while to figure Out what that change is and what change is beneficial to you, because you're gonna have, you know, voices in your mind that are gonna tell you that are gonna try to leave you to some negative change and keep you back in that pit of despair. But the thing is you have to do some. You got to keep searching to find the positive changes that are gonna take you out.
Speaker 1:For me, example, I personally encourage this a lot of Disciplines in my life really helped me, like I found the gym, and that was something you know. Exercise is actually great. I will say that that's not extra has been scientifically proven by numerous studies. That is great for your mental health. So, just as a general rule, if you're struggling, get exercise as much as you can and just make it a routine. Like don't skip it, just make it a routine. But also incorporated Daily disciplines, like for me, in the morning, something I recommend is doing something you don't want to do, doing something you absolutely don't want to do first thing in the morning. Thank you're bad. Yeah, that's a great thing.
Speaker 1:Make your bed. Or maybe it's going on a run, maybe it's doing school work, you know, at work, at your job, whatever, maybe it's working to the goal you have, like you're trying to start a business or a site, whatever it is. Do that thing first thing in the morning as soon as you get up, every single day, consistently, no excuses. Do that like for me it's taking cold shower. Take a cold shower for three minutes 15 seconds. I've been doing that for like two years. The only times I've skipped is when I've had like the flu.
Speaker 1:But even on vacation took cold shower every day and you at first it didn't seem like I was gonna do that. I Got in there like this is actually miserable and I wake up cold. Like I wake up cold, like you know, I wake up and I'm shivering, and when I wake up in the morning, so it sucks. But, and you know, some days I'd sit on that toilet, man, and my ass would be red because I Go numb, because I sit on a toilet so long dreading the other shower, but I still get in the shower and you know, I know it doesn't seem like that might help your mental health but trust me, it really does, because you're going to places in your mind 90% of people in the world won't go to and when you go to those places, through Discipline, consistency, you're gonna learn way more about yourself. To help it like you'll learn so much about yourself. It's gonna help you in the world, making yourself uncomfortable, yeah, and it will.
Speaker 1:If you do that and if you honestly try to improve your life and improve yourself and become a more disciplined, hardworking, kinder, just all around better person, it will get better, I promise you. It's gonna take time, it's gonna feel like you're going nowhere, or maybe even going backwards sometimes when you got to keep putting one foot in front of the other, and it will get better. I can honestly tell you that from my personal experience and you're not alone, there's plenty other people like you like plenty everybody's gone through the motion. Yeah, man, everybody's got their own shit to do. That's like say like every. You know when Sometimes people like have like maybe cultural, racial, financial or like economic status and differences and they don't like each other. I'm just like hey man, he puts on a shoes every morning, just like you do, and a lot of times what they realize is their problems are Similar and they're. They're more similar than they think they are different. I think it's hard for people to see that now.
Speaker 2:Yeah, thanks. People feel like a lot of people have a sort of narcissistic point of view on the world. Now it's, they just think of themselves like as like it revolves around the main character.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, and that's the thing is they're not main characters. You know, I think we all have her place and we're all I personally that were destined for a purpose. I believe that, but that no matter how big or small that purpose may be and it takes a while to find it Most people don't find their purpose. They don't even try to look. If you truly try to look, you'll find it, no matter how big or small you think that may be. You know it may look small to you but it may have a huge effect in the grand scheme of things. Just can't see the full picture because we look at perspective. You know, our perspective in our timeline is small from we can actually look at and see.
Speaker 1:You know how you said, our lives are short. So you may, you know, help a man one day. Give him, like he's broken down, beating, just say some kind words and Go buy him a beer, man, you know, and that guy may turn around to Get his life together. He works hard, right, he start works on a business. Business is successful, but it's not crazy, it's not huge, it's kids take it over and it becomes, you know, multi-million dollar company, the next Apple or whatever you know. So that's just one example, but you know next, but that's just one example, but what I'm saying is no purpose.
Speaker 1:We, we, we look at you know no purpose. How big or how small you may think it may be, it's still very important and no one's necessarily better than the other. You know someone, you know that, like Martin Luther King, you know I feel like he found his purpose and that was like we look at that, it's pretty huge and I'm not, I'm not trying to be great, that at all, so don't get me wrong, it's awesome, I. But you know someone, like I said, the guy that buys the dude at the gas station of beer he looks broken down Doesn't mean one of those two are better.
Speaker 1:They both have their own right, you know. So like, don't uh, what am I trying to say here? Don't like, look at yourself and degrade your value, because you never think you're going to be like good at anything, or or you're bad at this and this and this and you're not going to have any meaning, or your life's going to be filled with no purpose and you're no good to the world. Because I promise you, if you were born here, you're good to the world. You just have to find out what that good is.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean, just keep trying at it. You have like you have such a long time to live, such a long time to live, Like I've only been on this earth for 19 years.
Speaker 1:Yeah, man, I mean even shorter dude, yeah.
Speaker 2:And so I need to think of the stuff you could do in like one year's time. You know what I mean and you get that times. I still have that times 50 for average life expectancy, yeah, which is just absolutely crazy. Think about I saw over like two times, you know, over three times of my life. Yeah, there's just so much that you could do with that time. There just is, yeah.
Speaker 1:No, I mean I'm trying to think what I'm going to say here.
Speaker 2:You want, you want some time to think on it.
Speaker 1:No, I figured out. Yeah, oh yeah. Never, never, let your age stop you from doing something. You know like there's plenty of old people that have been really successful and done the great things for young people, and once we're like we're 18 and 19 and starting a podcast, and I feel like most people are aged.
Speaker 1:Don't even try to attempt that, you know. So, like, what I'm saying is don't let your age stop you from doing something and especially, don't let the thoughts in your mind stop you from doing something. Don't let those negative thoughts, because what they'll do is they'll keep you down if you listen to them. It's really hard to push through them. Sometimes they ignore them, but you, sometimes you got to do it. You know. That's where the friend group comes in.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and I'll also say this if you're, if you are alone and you're looking for good people, you know a good mate, good friends, whatever if you are truly alone, you're going to attract what you put out.
Speaker 1:So, if you do take that time to better yourself and become a better person, it may take a while, but you will attract those people you want in your circle and you'll know it when you find them. And also, if you've had bad friends, you know it kind of gets you an idea of what to look for, because you know what you don't qualities, you don't want people around you. But, yeah, like, if you keep working and bettering yourself, it may take a while, but you will attract those people that you do want in your circle, because what you put out is what people will be attracted to. So if you put out, you know, arrogant, cocky kind of lazy person, that's what you're going to attract. So it all goes to like just working yourself. And then best advice, like simply put everything I said that's as simple as I can make it, just working yourself, and like I think you can find some great joy in that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and if you're ever going through it I mean, the podcast is free, just listen every Thursday and if you ever need help, like whoever's listening, you can reach out. We can go over things.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I know for sure, I'd be glad to help, yeah, and I think, dude, we should actually try to start a like a website. We can make a free website and just have to be an outreach program. Just mental health, yeah, I can do it. Just like mental health. You need to talk like someone, just be like. You know. Private DM on the website, like complete, complete, couldn't, couldn't, closure, what was that word? But like disclosure. I think you know basically what. What I'm trying to say is what you say to me or Peyton, if we help you or send you somewhere to get help won't be mentioned any way on the podcast or we won't even talk about it. You know we won't even talk about it to each other if that person doesn't want us to.
Speaker 2:But yeah, we should, we, I can do that fairly easily, yeah, if you access I mean I know you've heard, like the whole, like better help app thing yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, with like the therapist and stuff. Yeah, I can't say I've personally ever benefited from speaking with therapists, but I mean, it's always better to try it out. Yeah, and then again, you know, I don't know if the therapist would be able to help you in any way that, like a really good friend can help you.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I think from men in particular. I was watching the Chris Chris Williams show Modern Wisdom and Senator Paca. I really like him and he's saying I think you know therapy like no shame in it if that's what you want to try out. But I he was saying that a lot of times therapy doesn't work for men because they look at it from a wrong approach. A lot of times when men are going through shit, they just don't want to, they don't like women. A lot of times when we told everything's going to be okay, you know you're strong like bubble and they give me these really encouraging words.
Speaker 2:Obviously no. I say our experience.
Speaker 1:Well, yeah, from our experience, but that's just like how I think therapy is treated in some cases. But a lot of times, men, what they want to do is they just want to like, have someone else that they know has their back. You know, they want to have someone, they want to be heard and they want to know this dude's got my back, so like, yeah, I'm going through this shit, that's my boy there, and so I think it was in Australia. He was talking about they set up this study and you know they had what they did, was they had like these shops where men can go and work on things like a lawn mowers and stuff, and they actually their mental health was so much better because what happened is they'd be a group of guys working on shit and they'd just be like, you know, talking. They'd be like, yeah, how's the wife at home? And they'd be like, oh, actually it's just not going great. Oh, I don't know what the end that when they talk about that, you know they're working.
Speaker 1:I think it meant throughout history it's how they've communicated. And then, you know, through that those really good friendships are born, you know, because like, oh, this guy, that's similar to what I'm going through and they start talking more and hanging out and it's like, okay, well, we go to war. I got that dude's back. He calls me at three, you know saying this dude, you know I had to kill this dude because he's attacking my daughter. Help me bury the body. That dude's like I'm on the way and that's what I think that's what men want is just another guy's got their back. But you know, if you want to try out therapy, man, all means do it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, have you seen, like the, the, like some of those prisons or something in like Iceland, and it's like they just put like it's not like a prison, they just put them in like a little city and it's like they just live and it's like they get free like living spaces and whatnot, and but they're like free of stress from the world, so like they're no longer like psychopaths or like this one dude had killed a bunch of people. Oh, you're talking about yeah, yeah, so now he's like, yeah, he's like I don't have to worry about anything and he's like just living a peaceful life or something. That's awesome.
Speaker 1:Yes, it depends on what they do.
Speaker 2:This is a whole other unraveling of ethics here.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that I don't know about that. Yeah, like I mean, it's different. You know someone robbed a bank. They didn't hurt anybody but they just robbed a bank Like I could see that. Yeah, to someone like killed like a school of children, I'll be like no, why are we letting this dude live peacefully Like we're gonna let's put a boy in his stomach and leave him out in the woods, like so he dies slow. I'm a little graphic, but a little I got some.
Speaker 1:Do you ever like I'm gonna ask this little topic, but do you ever like sit in a room with people? Man, this is gonna sound really bad. I should not be putting this on the internet. I do not wish harm. Let me just like this sliver. I do not wish harm on anybody. This is purely from a survival lipstick, like apocalyptic standpoint. Do you ever sit in a sitting in like a room with people and think, man, I could kill all these people if I had to? Like, if they just started attacking me, I could kill all of them. I don't know if it happened, but it's not about if it happens to completely hypothetical.
Speaker 2:I don't think. I don't think anybody would succeed, unless you were like Brian Shaw.
Speaker 1:Not like them all, like attacking you at once, but, like you know, one by one. I was sitting in class for the day, I think, an exam, and I was like, damn, I could kill all these guys. I had to like an apocalyptic setting, like like one on one, I have shit went down right now.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I would make it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I would be the one to make it out. That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I don't think I've ever thought about that, but I could understand.
Speaker 1:It's not that weird to think about.
Speaker 2:There's the alpha male inside of you huh, yeah, dude, I don't know. Like I said, I just exist man, I do have a question, since, like, we're not quite there, but no, I do have a question. So, like this was, I was wanting to go over towards the start, but like, okay, have you thought about doing this sort of like HVAC or something where, like you put in more work and you know you'll get more money out of it? You know what I mean?
Speaker 1:No, why you haven't, you haven't thought about it. Okay, I kind of hard upon a job that I could get, like that You're 18. I mean, yeah, but I got school. Now the hours.
Speaker 2:But you're like high school.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I have that during the day. Yeah, yeah, but I mean, you get out, yeah but it's still hard to find a job where I could get those hours Like, trust me, I've looked at those double jobs, that's true. But yeah, why are you asking just?
Speaker 2:Well, recently I've been like, let's say, I'm handed the opportunity to at some point time maybe get into something like it. So, okay, so you're asking your thoughts, like for you, or a track in general. Like you know, it's like, it's more like a. It's a different way of going about life. It just is. It's just a different job.
Speaker 1:Like I mean you say that way, you don't go to like straight up college, yet.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you know what I'm saying. You like you'd get some work experience and you'd take like you'd go to its own schooling program and whatnot.
Speaker 1:I mean that's what you want to do, to do Like, if it's a better opportunity, you make more money, and like, absolutely do it. Like unless you have like another I mean, unless you have a career field you're like really passionate about then yeah, I'd say definitely do it Like for me. I'm really passionate about conservation, so that's what I'm going to try to go on that field. Yeah, so like me, personally, I wouldn't, I wouldn't mind doing that as a job while in college. Yeah, For sure, that sounds great, but like I wouldn't choose that as my career. That's what you're asking, but like for you, it's not like, unless you have something you're really passionate about.
Speaker 2:You know, I think it just be like an easy start. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, and you could get you out like you could probably make enough money doing that. We could actually like move out and like oh yeah, yeah, good money, Just be a single guy just live in the bachelor life yeah. Five day weeks yeah but you'd be your hours. Your hours would be different. Like you get off in the evenings you'd have to read.
Speaker 2:Well, it'd be, like yeah, we would have evenings and then you would get. I'd probably be back home around like four, four, 30. Yeah, I did, but I'd have to be at the address by like 530 every morning. Yeah, it sucks. But yeah, five days a week, yeah, that kind of sucks.
Speaker 1:It's kind of crazy, you get your weekends. Yeah, I said it's a different kind of look at it.
Speaker 2:But yeah.
Speaker 1:I mean, why'd you choose to ask that on the podcast, like you could have? Just I was going to ask in general, but you could have just asked me. Like I mean, you know it was going to be one of my questions, your questions to me, yeah, I thought, I thought you have another question I thought you'd have.
Speaker 2:Well, that was the fourth question I've asked, but I thought you would have more of a perspective on like the, because that goes alongside like, like electrical engineering, plumbing, construction. And then you have the side of life where it's go to college. You get like a business major and you think you're asking me like which side of life, I think is better yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, like, what's the route? I mean, obviously it depends on the person. Like I told myself, I don't think I'll say this you know, if you're a young guy out there, don't take a bunch of student loans for a career that's not going to pay that fat. Oh yeah, of course. Yeah, that's I mean, but a lot of people do that.
Speaker 2:I mean you're kind of just going in blind.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and well for me. I told myself, right now I have my college paid for. And I told myself, I'm going to look forward to pay life. I can't pay my college and they go to a trade school.
Speaker 2:But like, I have my college paid for, so like, but I still don't.
Speaker 1:If you'd always go part time and just get like an associate's degree. That's not a bad thing. If you're it's paid for, you get like an associate's degree. Or, if you really want it to, you still get like a bachelor's and like business already a quarter of the way there. So, yeah, you get like your bachelor's in business or something you know. If you do want to pursue that path and that figure is only going to help you do that, especially if you paid for.
Speaker 2:That's just a good idea, that's true, but if you want to do, but that's like college is one of those things where it's like I feel like it would be so much easier if you just like took this year, your prime learning years, to put towards like a certain field. Oh, yeah, and listen later you take like this quality.
Speaker 1:I mean probably. But I will say this yeah, it'd probably be better if people just got experience about the job they're going to be doing and once you're in that field, you could like, let's say, go say classes 26, 27, I'd take classes for it, and then I'd probably move up and become like that probably is a better way to do things, but it's just not the way the world works.
Speaker 1:But, yeah, what I was saying though I like it just depends on the person really is depends, like, if you're somebody that's you know, does not want to do anything in college, don't go, man. Like you, just set your own ambitions and goals for life and do that, whether it's trade school, starting your own business, whatever you know, do that. You ain't got to go to college and you ain't got to go to trade schools. Do and do. Set your goals and do what you think is going to make you happy and be able to provide for your family and friends. And you know, yeah, do what you want to do, man, honestly, like really simple, do what you want to do. And you know, there's nothing wrong with, like, starting a business and working part time job or maybe in full time, and just grind it out. You know I wore your young.
Speaker 2:Now's the time to take risks, man it is yeah, because you I mean mainly because you had that recovery time yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that too. And also most people are younger, don't have kids and they don't have like a wife or husband, so you also don't have those necessarily family tie downs. You would so take risks, man. Yeah, you could like, don't shoot high.
Speaker 2:You could become like a travel the travel nurse man. Those things, those people make bang.
Speaker 1:It's not exactly what I was thinking, for sure, but it'd be like I'm saying like listen.
Speaker 2:When it comes to being mobile you know what I'm saying and moving around the country and whatnot.
Speaker 1:Listen. If your goals don't scare you, they're not worthy of you. Yeah, yeah and I'm about to quoted that from other people have heard say that, but that's not my original thing, but it's something that's been said.
Speaker 2:I guess that makes sense Does make sense. It's a little different, but yeah, it'd be a little different to succeed.
Speaker 1:I am very, I guess, so From the mainstream. I don't know, am I, am I? Yeah, you're good, a bit different.
Speaker 2:Okay, hey, I was like I don't really know.
Speaker 1:Because, like you know, like you're the mainstream people, where do I fit? Like am I on the spectrum?
Speaker 2:No, that's not what I was saying, it's not as a cue intro music.
Speaker 1:But though, like, how? Like different am I compared to the average? Like mainstream? Like here's all the fish. Am I like a red fish? Yeah, am I like a red orange fish?
Speaker 2:You're like my son fish. I'm not even a fish, am I on the?
Speaker 1:land dude like my frog.
Speaker 2:I like frogs. Yeah, you could be a frog, I can see being a frog dude I was.
Speaker 1:I wish I was a frog dude.
Speaker 2:It's been a while since I've seen that.
Speaker 1:Hell yeah, I could, I dude, I'll find you some man. They're out back, yeah. Oh yeah, you want to come see some toes? Yeah, we're gonna go see toads after this. Guys Toad, toes that. Toes, toes, toes, toes, toes.
Speaker 2:There's more. It's yeah, but uh, you ever, you ever find out how that works. That is actually not true, it's not true.
Speaker 1:You don't get worse from toads. Now she's yeah, that's a, it's a myth so now you know, but uh. Yeah, I was picking. I've been picking up toads in my entire life and every once got to work. That's not what I'm basing up that information. There's scientific research, yeah, yeah, but that's just, you know, supporting that.
Speaker 2:I'm sure that it'd be a known fact throughout the world if it was true. Yeah, I'm saying yeah isn't even the kids have picked up toads dude.
Speaker 1:Yeah, like you see this thing, it's like like peon you, oh, hell, oh, I mean that's what they call like horny toads dude. You ever seen an old brother were off down Brother, where I'll work? You ever seen an old brother were art though no, it's funny movie. You should watch it. You have to watch it like the second time for it to be funny.
Speaker 2:It was. I swear to you You're gonna have to watch it two times the second time. Yes, to be funny.
Speaker 1:I mean the first time's got a funny business adds money. If you watch it again, there's subtle things that are funny. It's a comedy.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I've never heard of it. Oh, look at all of this, dude. I you know, I don't know actors, I have no idea. Oh, brother, there's a famous person in it.
Speaker 2:Where are it though? Yeah, there's a few famous people in the market. Yeah, I thought there was. This is, oh, just came out in 2000.
Speaker 1:It's uh, you can rent it on youtube. Man, you should do it. He's got George Clooney.
Speaker 2:That's who, john Turturro.
Speaker 1:I don't know. Yeah, I've heard of George Clooney. I don't know who John Turturro is. You're seeing the?
Speaker 2:amazing tortoise, you're amazing. So all I'm I don't know what that is. You know Adam Sandler.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's the one where he's like this crazy, like funny Egyptian, like he's got like, my sister's got like wild powers really.
Speaker 1:I feel like my sister's seen that movie man.
Speaker 2:You've ever seen that? No, tim Blake, nelson, john Goodman.
Speaker 1:Dude, there's, you can add sound effects to like the recording. Wait, this is actually so, so funny, so like I can say something like I am the most sexiest man alive.
Speaker 2:It's not working. It's not my fault. It was gonna be cheering yeah.
Speaker 1:And it's not working now. Dude, that would make any sense. There it is. Yeah, thank you. I know I'm hot, thank you, thank you, I know I'm so hot, I'm so hot, thank you. Thank you, yeah.
Speaker 2:That was loud, that's loud.
Speaker 1:Dude I? What if that doesn't show up in the actual?
Speaker 2:It's just it.
Speaker 1:They just hear me say I'm so hot, I'm so hot. Like they calm down, just so you all know if that doesn't show up for you. There was like a sound effect of cheering and like clapping on my editing software. So I was saying like I'm so hot, thank you, thank you, as like people cheering for me. If that did not show up on y'all's end, if it did, then that went smoothly.
Speaker 2:Yeah, smoothly, there's no way of like the 10 seconds, but yeah, yeah, what. What happened? What do you mean? What happened? They didn't play it first.
Speaker 1:I, oh, I had to switch it to like the live button. It was like the pre recording and I'd switch it to live, and then it did. Of course I was wondering what you just look at me like I just flicked your nose as this right here Brown bottle.
Speaker 2:That's what I'm talking about, Dude. That's like a hot hamster man.
Speaker 1:If you're a female. If you're a female hamster and you hear this Dude, you're horny as big. You're so horny. Yes, a female hamster man, you'd be so horny like I know. If I was a female hamster and I heard a male hamster do this, right, I'd be so wet.
Speaker 2:I saw this one video that I was surprised was a lot to be like a video and it's this like girl in the car. It is like she's upset because my boy, because her boyfriend, won't get on the sunroof and let her be a female hamster.
Speaker 1:Wait what? No, I didn't get on the sunroof and be a female hamster. That doesn't make any sense.
Speaker 2:I explain it to me. You know, like hamsters like with their water, they like like suck on the.
Speaker 1:Dude, that's so gross. Dude, that's gotta be some wild stupid. That's such a wild day, man. You know how everyone talks about like joining the model high club is such a wild and crazy thing. The airplane yeah, that just took that to a whole new level.
Speaker 2:Dude, I don't. I don't see anybody could do that.
Speaker 1:That's crazy. Well, you'd have to have a, you'd have to have a third driver, that'd have to be three people in that car, because there's no way you're driving and doing that Like you'd have to be, like wait, so it was a mile high float. Like you have sex in the plane like above 30,000.
Speaker 2:Yeah, plain, but you just said you'd have to have somebody else driving.
Speaker 1:I'm talking about your thing, the hamster thing. Yeah the car wouldn't have to be moving Still, yeah the plane thing that you know like I don't see how people could just do that in the bedroom. Just get some duct tape and duct tape the boyfriend to like, go wallade. I've been duct tape to a wall or tree before it's possible.
Speaker 2:Get really quiet. What I have. Why would you have to be the other thing to a wall you could, so she could suck all off the spigot.
Speaker 1:What are you talking about? Could you not?
Speaker 2:just do the same with, like you, standing in her.
Speaker 1:That's just the normal blow job.
Speaker 2:What are you?
Speaker 1:saying it's the same thing, dude. We just, we just cracked the secret of the universe right now, no they have to do it.
Speaker 2:Einstein could not solve this equation? Yeah, they'd have to be on the ceiling, but the spigots are on the ceiling.
Speaker 1:I'm saying himself Couldn't solve this equation Couldn't not solve this equation Dude inertia, but uh, the, uh. No, the normal, like hamster spigots, are horizontal, you know. So it's just a dude standing up.
Speaker 2:They're not horizontal.
Speaker 1:Yes, they are.
Speaker 2:No, they're not, they're like they're. You clip it onto the side of the cage.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and then the spigot like this yes, yes. Horizons like this right.
Speaker 2:Yeah, this diagonal, diagonal, that the spigot is diagonal.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's big, it's diagonal, horizontal, straight up. Oh man, I got this, I got this vertical. Yes, they're sitting vertical and a spigot comes out diagonal. That's just like a normal dude though.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but if a dude is like planked and erect, it's not gonna be straight down, it's gonna go up a little yeah but it's still the same premises.
Speaker 1:I mean you'd have to, like, break his Dick to get that to where they could. It would be pointed down, but then it wouldn't work properly. So, like it's a whole new set of issues, maybe we have a crack their question. I don't think so. We'd have to have the man up dick down. It's there, the man up dick down. That's the formula, but we can't find the solution.
Speaker 2:Wish we had a.
Speaker 1:I wish we had a whiteboard. Dude Is there draw?
Speaker 2:Let's put the man here.
Speaker 1:The angle of the angle. Okay, so what if the man All right? What if?
Speaker 2:Hmm, really trying to think. It's making me think of when we were at the, the dinner, the fancy dinner, and we were all talking about how many people could be into a urinal.
Speaker 1:We were. We were to give you all back to where we were at a dinner, at a fancy steakhouse with some friends, while back.
Speaker 2:What other one? Christmas other Christmas we're discussing how many people, how many guys could be.
Speaker 1:Oh, this was at a Christmas dinner party at our work. Yeah, yeah, so I'm sorry, I get him. I was. Oh, yeah, I remember this now. I remember how many people end up and the other guy yeah they had one on top.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I know that. Then, like you, maybe do like six or seven.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I don't know then, that's just one of the things of life.
Speaker 2:You know one of the mysteries of the universe, yep.
Speaker 1:How does your start, dude? All right. Well, I think that's, uh, it's a good place to end it. Unless you have anything else you want to say, I've got all my questions out. That's good, that's it. This needs to come. Do an ending. All right, then we don't, we don't need you to make the music. I'll edit the music later, that's a great place to end it, you, you.