Episode 73- All Time Anaheim Ducks Team!!

What happens when you gather four passionate hockey minds to build the ultimate Anaheim Ducks team from over three decades of franchise history? Pure magic, heated debates, and the perfect blend of nostalgia and analysis.

Our panel dives deep into the Ducks' rich history, assembling a dream team that spans generations of Anaheim hockey. From the obvious selections—Teemu Selanne, Paul Kariya, Scott Niedermayer, and Chris Pronger—to the nuanced discussions about which role players truly defined the Ducks' identity, every position sparks fascinating conversation about what makes a truly great hockey team.

The chemistry on our first line mirrors the chemistry in our discussion as we unanimously agree that Steve Ruchin belongs between Kariya and Selanne, not because he was the most talented center in franchise history, but because he perfectly complemented the two superstars. This theme of complementary skills rather than just raw talent emerges throughout our roster construction. The fourth line of Moen-Pahlsson-Niedermeyer stays intact from the 2007 Cup team—a reflection of how some combinations simply shouldn't be broken.

Beyond the player selections, we explore what made the Ducks special through different eras. From the original Mighty Ducks with Guy Hebert between the pipes to the dominant defensive core of the championship years to the transitional teams of more recent seasons, we craft a roster that honors the organization's full history. Whether you've been following since the Disney days or just discovered the team recently, this nostalgic journey through Ducks history will deepen your appreciation for the franchise's remarkable legacy.

Ready to debate our choices? We'd love to hear who would make YOUR all-time Ducks roster! Subscribe, share your thoughts, and join us next week when we assemble the all-time Los Angeles Kings team for the ultimate SoCal hockey rivalry simulation.

Chapters

• 1:22 Welcome to Duck Dynasty
• 10:25 Building the Forward Lines
• 27:56 Assembling the Defense Pairings
• 41:36 Selecting the Goaltending Tandem
• 50:18 Special Teams and Coaching Decisions
• 1:05:32 Uniform Choices and Final Thoughts

Transcript

Speaker 1 0:42

Welcome to the World of Warcraft, episode 1 the Warcraft, warcraft, warcraft, warcraft, warcraft, warcraft, warcraft, warcraft, warcraft, warcraft, warcraft, warcraft, warcraft, warcraft, warcraft, warcraft, warcraft, warcraft, warcraft, warcraft, warcraft, warcraft, warcraft, warcraft, warcraft, warcraft. Hi, coming to you live from San Diego, california, a stone's throw away from Pechanga Arena where the AHL San Diego Goals play. But don't worry, royally Quacked fans, we have a very special episode today that we're calling the Making of the Duck Dynasty. Now on to who's going to be your host today Cody Spink.

Speaker 2 1:47

What's up Ducks fans? We got a special team here. Other than the Royally guy in the middle right there, we got Adam Broll from the Patriots hockey, we got Kyle Carr from Locked On Ducks and the legend himself Doug Stolhan from the Puck Podcast. So we're all going to go over real quick on who we'd have on our all-time Ducks teams. But then we got to work together and make one team together. So tune in. If you guys have any, if you guys are watching live, send in your who you think you'd want on what line, what D pair or what goal you'd want. Put in the comments and we'll read it live. So, all right, who wants to go first on their team?

Speaker 2 2:35

Or you want me to start it off I can start it off.

Speaker 3 2:37

I got some legends from guys that played with the Ducks but were not maybe at their best with the Ducks, but certainly some guys that I think would fit in well. And if you're looking at all-time Ducks they fit in. But we'll see if they make the all-time roster. So the top line because we're going to give four lines of forwards, three pairs of defense and two goalies the top line has got to be, for my money, korea, getzlaff and Solani. I think they're the best at each position from ducks all time. And then when you get into the depth it gets a little bit. Some of the legends come into play here. So I've got Chris Kunitz on the second line, left wing, and his center. I'm going to go with Adam Oates because he was one of the greatest passers in NHL history. I think he would even opt to pass in a shootout situation. The guy refused to shoot the puck but was an all-time playmaker, so loved him. And then Corey Perry on the right wing, future Hall of Famer and still going strong somehow. So third line I'm going to go with. We'll go with Yari Curry on the left wing, again not a guy that had his best years with the Ducks but did play with them and is one of the NHL 100 best players of all time. At center, I'm going to go with Andy McDonald, and then on the right wing, I'm going to go with Andy McDonald, and then, on the right wing, I'm going to go with Bobby Ryan, a guy that I wish could have had a better career in Anaheim and stayed here for much longer, but still gave me one of the greatest moments of all time when he scored with another player's stick and then showed it right in his face. That was an all-time moment. And then for the fourth line, this was a tough one. I was going to go with Sergei Fedorov, but I opted instead for what I thought was the best line in Ducks history, the perfect line, and so I'm keeping them intact from the 2007 Stanley Cup championship team Travis Moen, sammy Paulson, rob Niedermeyer that line could do anything.

Speaker 3 4:43

And as a fourth line on an all-time team, I can't think of a group of guys I'd rather have go over the boards to eat up some minutes and shut down. Other teams play some physical hockey and chip in the occasional goal. So there's my forwards On defense. How you don't go with Scott Niedermeyer and Chris Pronger as your top pairing is a debate we can have when we get to the other rosters, but that's mine. And then a man near and dear to my heart from uh. I was at the 2003 stanley cup final game against the devils when he scored the only goal of the game in overtime.

Speaker 3 5:16

Rousselin soleil, may he rest in peace is on my second pairing, along with francois beauchemin, the lefty that's going to surprise jerome m McGinley with a left-handed punch and knock him out. And then a pairing that is probably not going to be one that a lot of Ducks fans are going to be in love with. On my third pairing, but Cam Fowler was great for a long time and is still a good player. He's there with Hampus Lindholm as my third pairing, so those are two guys that I'm pretty confident in in any minutes. And then the goalie you got to go with JS Shigeru. He's the only goalie to win a Ducks Stanley Cup for the Ducks so far. He gave up one goal in the entirety of the Western Conference final in 2007, or in 2003 when he won the Kahn-S smite in a losing effort. Uh, one goal. The entire series against the minnesota wild is ridiculous. And then the original duck. Guillier bear is his backup. So that's my team from top to bottom.

Speaker 2 6:16

Uh, looking forward to seeing what you guys pick and what we end up with all right, I'll go, I'll go next, like I said I, I know mine is interesting, but this is why I like having you guys on here to um, help me, help us make a better team all together. So my line one of course, I got the the best duo in ducks history, solani and korea as the wingers, and then I got sergey fedorov centering them. And then my second line I got cory perry ryan gets off and bobby ryan trying to kind of keep the generation players kind of together at the same time. That's why I kind of came up with that. My third line I had curry ruchin and andy mcdonald. And my fourth line I had the exact same fourth line as you, doug. So no, no difference there. That was literally one of the best lines and in duck history I would probably have to say, like you knew, you, you were what you're going to get out of them every game and you knew, with them on the ice, you weren't't going to lose. So I agree with that.

Speaker 2 7:27

My top pair for defense I had Niedermeyer and Pronger. Second pair, beauchemin and Trubovsky and third pair, roussan Saleh and Josh Manson. My goalies I mean I don't think anyone's going to disagree with any of our goalies, and Gia Chiguerra's starting is starting, of course. And then gi bear, the original mighty duck, is my backup. That's my. That was the team I came up with last year. So I, I, I can't, you know, that's my team. So, um, adam, you got your team um, unfortunately I don't.

Speaker 4 8:04

I was just kind of planning on putting the team together with you guys, but a random one for, like me line one, though, is I kind of go a little differently, because I would probably put Andy McDonald at centered, obviously, got to have Paul Curry and Tame Salani at number one, and I'd prefer to kind of keep that kind of cup running team going together with having Getzzlaff perry and probably bobby ryan on the second line. For me, like, have random stuff like that. Um, as for like random d pairings, like I would kind of keep oleg tevredovsky and russan soleil together. They played so well together back in the you know the early 90s when the ducks were coming together and they were one of the dominant you know pairs of defensemen that the Ducks have had growing in that expansion era.

Speaker 4 8:48

It's like random stuff like that, but I mean as much as I love Guy Hebert, I think I still have to go with the—obviously I'm going to go with Jager for number one, but I think I still have to go with Jonas Hiller as number two. They were just an awesome tandem pair that we had throughout the years, and I don't know, I just liked uh hillar's uh style of play, so I gotta stick with them, and that for me I don't make sure that hillar doesn't bring the uh mustache helmet.

Speaker 4 9:14

That thing is cursed, no no, no, no I I, I prefer that, uh, matt black one with the gold cage. I think that was. That was the most clean, that was the most simplest look, but I was like one of my all time favorite helmets.

Speaker 3 9:27

Yeah, I loved, I loved the mustache helmet, but that thing was absolutely cursed. Yeah All right.

Building the Forward Lines

Speaker 4 9:37

The only good thing about that mustache helmet was actually having George Peros there. You know, keeping that mustache on the ice. That was about the only good part about that, right, yeah.

Speaker 5 9:48

All right, kyle, you have your team. Yes, I do, mine's going to be a little mix. I'm going to kind of thrust in some of the youth and the old. I'm thinking if we're doing a you know a battle against the Kings over there with your father, we got to have a little bit like. I think it's going to be more in the modern game. So my top line I'm going to have Correa and Solani, of course, on the wings, centered by Leo Carlson. I think with that Finnish and Swedish blood up there, you get a pretty good little international mix going.

Speaker 5 10:19

On the second line I'm going to have Getzlaff centering and then Perry on his right and Troy Terry on his left. I think Terry's just such a solid player he can help those two and you know what Getzlaff and Perry can do together. And then on my third I'm going to have Ryan Kessler and then Bobby Ryan and Ricard Raquel, and on my fourth line just because in the modern day these guys would destroy any line it would be Rob Niedermeyer, ruchin in the center and Chris Kunitz on the left, and then for my defense I got Scott Niedermeyer and Chris Pronger, first pair. Second, I'm going to have Fowler and Lacombe and then on my third pair, beauchemin and Manson. And for goaltending, of course, jiggy, you got to have him as your top guy, and then I'm going to have Brizgal, I mean, freddie Anderson, freddie Anderson.

Speaker 2 11:16

So it sounds like we all have certain players in the same spot, so this can go a little better. We already got some agreement, so I think we all are in agreement on the wingers on the top line oh yeah.

Speaker 5 11:31

Well, you know they're the only players that have 100 points or have sniffed 100 points in a season, so might as well have them out there no, I.

Speaker 2 11:38

So we got that and I think we all had scott need of our andonger are on the first line, I believe too. And then I mean I think if anyone has anyone else than Chaguer as a starting goalie, then I'd be shocked. So, like I said, we got agreements everywhere, so that's nice. Now we just got to put some pieces in the right spots and then I think this will be a real nice-looking team after we're done.

Speaker 3 12:04

Do we want to consider a fourth line of Stu Grimson, george Peros, jared Burnett? That could just absolutely beat the absolute living hell out of any line that takes the ice against them. They're going to play 30 seconds each in the night and they're going to get a game 1,800 pims yeah, but they're taking the.

Speaker 2 12:26

They're going to get a game, yeah, but they're taking the matt rempe, uh, playing time right, but they're taking three guys out of the game with them, so I'm not against it.

Speaker 4 12:34

I'm not against that either actually right, that's definitely a line I'd be.

Speaker 2 12:38

I'd be terrified oh, I'd be terrified too and it's going to protect the skill guys.

Speaker 3 12:44

Andy mcdonald's going to have a lot more ice out there to Solani and Korea. There's going to be no more Gary suitors cross-checking Paul Korea in the face Right, because those three guys, with Jared Burnett, would leave the bench and and kill them right there.

Speaker 4 12:59

So if we had that line, who knows if Scott Stevens would have hit Korea?

Speaker 3 13:04

Right.

Speaker 4 13:04

A hundred percent.

Speaker 2 13:05

He would have never gone off the floor on the board.

Speaker 3 13:12

No, I'd say, and I like the Ricard Raquel mention. He's a guy that I think gets forgotten about how good he was. I'm surprised none of us mentioned Peter Sikora. He was great as a duck and as a sniper on the wing, so that's a guy that I might consider as well in there. But Ricard Raquel, I think gets overlooked for his time. And Ryan Kessler, that's a good pull as well. He's a great two-way center. I didn't like the way he left because of the injuries and stuff like that.

Speaker 3 13:42

It didn't end on a good note. He was very bitter, yeah, but he was great while he was here.

Speaker 2 13:46

there's no doubt about that did you guys saw that video of him catching a ball?

Speaker 3 13:51

yeah, throwing it back on the field yeah I deny this ball yeah, no, he's still a. He's still a great two-way player man.

Speaker 2 14:00

He can catch it and throw it honestly, I I loved having him and perry on the same team, where we had the two most hated players in the league on one team.

Speaker 3 14:10

I mean, there's something to be said. Nobody hates bad players. You hate a dirty player.

Speaker 5 14:18

You hate them when you're on a team.

Speaker 3 14:20

But you love them on your team. But I'm saying around the league you want to be hated, you want to be the villain, you want to be the people that have the target.

Speaker 4 14:27

So I'm hoping the Ducks get back to that. Everyone thinks I'm crazy because I mean, I absolutely respect the game of Corey Perry, but I do not like the man himself.

Speaker 2 14:37

Chris from Late Arrivals says I miss Ryan Kessler every single day and he was a guy that helped the culture of this team.

Speaker 3 14:47

You know the Ducks need a guy like him right now that refuses to lose and will battle through injury. He was limping through the playoffs a couple of years and just refused to come out of the lineup. And as much as we may not love the, you know I don't know that I want to go on a road trip with Ryan Kessler or have him in charge of my house while I'm out of town, but I definitely want him on my hockey team Absolutely, if we could have a black ace on our defense.

Speaker 5 15:15

I think Kevin Bieksa would have been a good name to mention too, because same thing, him and Kessler were in at that same time and they were just two bullies out there. They create a lot of culture and, uh, I'm fortunate for them in vancouver. At the time they were together up there, but I liked them on anaheim I'll never forget, uh uh, the superman punch oh yes the bx's superman punch that was.

Speaker 4 15:42

That was one way to do it, I guess.

Speaker 2 15:44

Yeah, the one time Bieska took a face-off draw, ended up with that Vancouver-Calgary brawl. Oh yeah, he wasn't even supposed to be the face-off guy, but all right, let's start with the first line. So obviously we all have Solani and Correa as the wingers Mm-hmm. All right, we need to come to agreement on who's in a center that pair I'm kind of on board with kyle with putting leo up there.

Speaker 3 16:14

I mean I think that would be a fun mix.

Speaker 4 16:16

Like you have leo, you kind of got his size, his speed, his creativity, but then you have solani and korea. That just could pick apart a defense in their passing. I don't know, I think. For me, I think Carlson would be great up there with the top line of Solani and Correa.

Speaker 3 16:32

I think we go back to what we saw with what worked with Correa and Solani A guy that would go into the corners, that would go to the front of the net and would play defense because they don't, and that's Steve.

Speaker 4 16:44

Oh yeah. Oh yeah, net and would play defense because they don't.

Speaker 3 16:46

And that's oh yeah, oh yeah. I think I think ruchin in there. It's a perfect line. It's kind of like the mohan uh paulson niedermeyer line. It worked. That chemistry works. So if that's your top line of korea, solani and ruchin, I think you're going to be very happy and ruchin's going to be picking himself up out of the corner while those two guys celebrate a goal over at the uh at the at the board. So I think that's a good line. But I I want somebody that can play defense, because I know those two guys can't. No, actually no I love that.

Speaker 4 17:16

I love that too. I mean I remember watching ruchin when he was the you know the captain and he captained that, um, those uh early teams and he was always the man going into the corner and digging out the puck, or he would be in front of the net uh battling uh his way to put a screen, or yeah. No, I'm kind of with you on that one as well, like I, yeah, I remember watching those in the early, uh the mid 90s, late 90s, and yeah, I mean it was a perfect pairing, because ruchin was that he was kind of that underdog that no one really knew who he was or what he was doing there, but he was the one that was always in the middle of everything, even though that Solani and Correa got the flash and the notoriety.

Speaker 3 17:52

Yeah, ruchin was really the center that put all that together for him and let's keep in mind, the first thing you do in a hockey game is win a face-off, and Leo Carlson cannot win face-offs that's's true, that's true, very true, I'd say if it ain't broke, don't fix it.

Speaker 5 18:09

So I would go with Ruchin up there as well, all right.

Speaker 2 18:11

So we got Ruchin up there Perfect. Honestly, that's such a great pull, doug, that was probably, like I said, probably one of the most consistent lines.

Speaker 3 18:21

Yeah, that was a great line for a long time for the Ducks All right.

Speaker 2 18:25

so we got our first line. I figured that wasn't going to take long. We only needed to find one player, and we might as well find the perfect person that played with them and looked perfect with them, Right.

Speaker 5 18:38

I was waiting for the Ruchin Steakhouse.

Speaker 2 18:41

Yeah, it was Ruchin Steakhouse. All right, line two how do we want to start? Who do we want centering this second line? Do we want to go with El Capitan Ryan Getzloff to start?

Speaker 5 18:56

I mean I think for me it's a no-brainer. He's obviously a top six center and he's got the 1, thousand points, most points in the Ducks history. You gotta like Getzloff's play and he's someone who can win face-offs. It just expands that depth. I don't think it would be good to have him on a bottom six line. That's my opinion.

Speaker 2 19:24

Are we all in agreement? Getzloff has the two C.

Speaker 3 19:28

Yeah, I think the second line is almost the same as the first line, in that you have a pairing of Getzloff and Perry. It's just finding who's going to go with those guys, because that again was a pairing that worked so well, helped win a Stanley Cup, was unstoppable for a decade in the NHL, and that's a wide mess with chemistry. That is already proven.

Speaker 5 19:50

Well, we mentioned it earlier, Ricard Raquel was a pretty good staple with those guys. When he was with the Ducks he had some pretty good points. There's that comeback on Catella, maybe recency bias, but I feel like he's got some good chemistry. Since we're kind of going down that path, yeah, we can also go.

Speaker 2 20:08

Bobby Ryan, he had good chemistry with them too.

Speaker 4 20:11

That's what I was thinking. I was thinking Raquel or Ryan, one of those two.

Speaker 2 20:15

I'm fine with either one. What do you think, Doug?

Speaker 3 20:17

I like Bobby Ryan on that line. The chemistry when they were younger worked well. Ryan's a physical player, a little bit of a bull, more than Ricard Raquel as well, so I like that.

Speaker 5 20:28

Those three are pretty good. Do you have a coin, cody? We could uh flip a coin here.

Speaker 4 20:35

I'm good with keeping Bobby Ryan on that one because like, even even doing that one, uh, you kind of almost think like maybe if you go on like a third line, that's when you bring in raquel. But do you bring him in, like, do you put sergey fedorov with fedorov with raquel, like have that kind of little dynamic going and got to figure out you know the left winger to go with him. But yeah, I think bobby ryan sticks with the, the young crew of the uh of the 2000s era we can go with.

Speaker 2 21:02

So we're all in agreement.

Speaker 4 21:04

Uh, bobby ryan yeah, yes, sir all right third line.

Speaker 2 21:08

How do we want to start this one?

Speaker 3 21:10

I'm gonna propose something real fast, just that I was thinking of as we were talking about the combinations and pairings and and who goes well together. I'm swedish, I got a little bit of swedish blood in me and I'm saying with all swede line ricard raquel, leo carlson and sammy pulse, or, uh, jacob silverberg oh, I'm surprised silverberg didn't make any of our.

Speaker 5 21:33

That's very sweet of you.

Speaker 2 21:35

How sweet it is man how sweet it is. That's a sweet.

Speaker 4 21:38

I don't hate that line at all, I don't either, I mean either I actually have the swedish ducks hat somewhere around here, oh nice so with the you guys

Speaker 5 21:50

want to make that our third line yeah, I like that all right I don't know.

Speaker 4 21:54

Is that, is that a good enough line to be the third line? I mean? That's definitely a solid fourth line. Yeah, really like in the all-time greats with you know, with everyone that we have the access to. I would think that would be a perfect fourth line.

Speaker 3 22:08

There you go, that's fair that's fair, because, as much as we love the moen paulson niedermeyer line there are, there's meat on the bone right now sammy or andy mcdonald, chris kunitz, both still available and those are guys that might be a better pick for the third line. It's a good point.

Speaker 1 22:29

We could do a Kessler.

Speaker 3 22:30

Kunitz and Poulsen Kessler isn't is a tempting option and he's a perfect third line. Center on it. Yeah, I just you know you're talking about healthy Kessler. Yeah, Adam, who do you got as the wings on that kind of a line If Kessler is your third line center. You're looking for skill or are you looking for a little bit of two-way play?

Speaker 4 22:53

Kind of two-way play on it, Like the bottom six. You kind of want a little bit more of that two-way play. Obviously, like the top six, you're looking a little bit more flash.

Speaker 2 23:03

See if we got Kessler on the wing or center I mean, do we want to bring back the cogliano silverberg kessler line?

Speaker 4 23:11

I mean I I absolutely love cogliano. I think he was one of the most underrated ducks. I mean, the man had speed, he had that grit everyone wanted to. He had no problem mixing it up.

Speaker 5 23:20

But I'm right on the pk?

Speaker 4 23:22

yeah, absolutely so. Yeah, cogliano, I don't know who would be. I don't know the other way, maybe a troy terry he's pretty solid.

Speaker 5 23:32

He's definitely like you were talking about someone who goes in the corners, does all the right things.

Speaker 3 23:37

I'm gonna throw out a name of a guy that I loved and he's not an all-time duck, but I loved him and that was mike leclerc. Yeah, jerky was just a good guy. That's a good fit on that kind of a line of uh, he could score every now and then, but he was just a him and kessler together, would they? There's nothing they would back down from. Those are guys. I mean, this is the jersey I'm wearing for a reason I love, I love the jersey, I love that I love that hair of ducks, oh that's, I can't stand those jerseys.

Speaker 4 24:04

I was going to say I'm pretty sure that was rated the ugliest jersey.

Speaker 5 24:08

Yeah, exactly, I thought it was the.

Speaker 2 24:10

Wild Wing, one that was rated the worst.

Speaker 5 24:13

I saw something with that one. That is the worst the Wild.

Speaker 3 24:17

Wing is the worst.

Speaker 4 24:20

That's one of my favorites. That's one of my favorites.

Speaker 3 24:23

No, that is the worst. That was absolutely ridiculous.

Speaker 4 24:29

Everyone thinks I'm crazy because I like the Anaheim black and purples.

Speaker 2 24:33

I liked it at the time.

Speaker 5 24:35

I liked it at the time, but now I'm like it's two kings looking the first thing.

Speaker 3 24:41

I can think of is Corey Perry, and that one had the modern day patch for us. The modern day patch At the end yeah.

Speaker 3 24:52

Modern day. That's the I would if Kessler's on there. I mean we still have Fedorov, we still have Curry, we still have a lot of veteran players. Still got Adam Oates too. If you're building for a, yeah, if you're building a rugged third line that can go out there and shut down what's going to be another team's top line on a nightly basis, kessler is a great start. I'm not sure who you put on his wings, but that's a great start. It's just a defensive center.

Speaker 2 25:22

I mean, we still got Curry Kunitz, Rob Niedermeyer, andy McDonald, travis.

Speaker 1 25:28

Wood.

Speaker 2 25:29

Todd Marchant for wingers Marchant.

Speaker 3 25:35

Niedermeyer.

Speaker 2 25:38

Still got Silverberg Raquel. Yeah, that's true, the black and eggplant jersey inspired the later rivals logo pretty nice.

Speaker 5 25:50

well, I think if we do that swedish fourth line, that would kind of cross them off. But if we had, I don't know, I do love cogs hes. He was the Mr Iron man, except for George Peros, yeah.

Speaker 4 26:10

Do we do, do we? Kessler Cogliano? I just had a third. Now, that went right out of my mind as soon as I started throwing that together, kunitz.

Speaker 5 26:27

I was thinking Kunitz.

Speaker 2 26:30

Kunitz on the left, and then.

Speaker 3 26:34

Or do you go with? Do you mix and match a little bit and go with?

Speaker 4 26:38

Rob.

Speaker 3 26:38

Niedermeyer, I was going to say Travis Mullen, travis. Mullen and Ryan Kessler is another tough line, yeah, tough pairing, I think Moe's got that championship pedigree.

Speaker 5 26:53

Yeah, he shows up when you need him.

Assembling the Defense Pairings

Speaker 4 26:58

Well, what if we did him Andy McDonald and Cagliano. Add some scratch Kessler. Yeah, I don't know Idonald better than kessler. Well, mcdonald's a winger. No, andy mcdonald was a center he was a center.

Speaker 3 27:16

Yeah, you can play. He played him at center guarantee he was a center yeah, I wouldn't be angry with McDonald and Kunitz as a pairing and then finding Chester to the fourth line he was a left wing center yeah, moving. If Kunitz and McDonald are your third and then your fourth line can be basically what the traditional third line is so what are we doing for the third line?

Speaker 5 27:47

I say we go with that McDonald and Kunitz and we'll have Cagliano. Yeah, yeah, those are three.

Speaker 3 27:57

Those are three tough guys right there.

Speaker 5 27:58

And then you're basically your PK's set right there.

Speaker 2 28:03

McDonald. And what was the last one again? Kunitz McDonald. And Cogs Cogs K's set right there McDonald's. And what was the last one again? Coon, it's McDonald's.

Speaker 4 28:08

and Cogs Cogs. Yeah, then we take that line and then just put Progner on there. Yeah, there's our PK line, right there.

Speaker 5 28:18

Put Justin Bieber against him. He'll be smoked.

Speaker 2 28:24

All right, and then fourth line.

Speaker 3 28:29

As much as I love the Swedish line, I still love the Moen Paulson Niedermeyer.

Speaker 2 28:34

How do we go wrong with that one?

Speaker 5 28:36

Yeah, Throw them in there, I'm with that. The Swedes can be the black aces Yep.

Speaker 2 28:46

Who centered that line? Again Paulson, paulson, paulson and then Niedermeyer.

Speaker 5 28:56

And Moen Guys. We forgot Nathan Ballou.

Speaker 2 29:01

He was a defenseman actually.

Speaker 4 29:05

It's a name I haven't heard in a while.

Speaker 3 29:09

I'm just glad nobody brought up Jeff Friesen F, that guy.

Speaker 4 29:14

I tried to forget that name, yeah.

Speaker 2 29:18

All right, we got our forwards, so we got. This is what we have. Line one Solani, ruchin, correa. Second line, perry Getzloff, bobby Ryan. Third line, kunitz, mcdonald, cogliano and fourth line, moen Paulson and Niedermeyer.

Speaker 3 29:35

Sounds pretty solid to me. That's very solid. I'm happy with any line that's on the ice at any given time. Yeah, I'm happy with that too All right.

Speaker 2 29:48

First pair for defense I mean do we? Go anywhere other than niedermeyer and pronger no, okay, no, I was gonna say I would be curious to see what anyone, oh god, no that's gonna, that's gonna go with the peros and Clemson.

Speaker 4 30:04

No, no, no, I got it.

Speaker 2 30:06

Boyu and Jacob Larson.

Speaker 3 30:08

Oh boy, oh God, yeah, I'll take a Kevin Shattenkirk and Jason Marshall, I'd rather have Shatty than Larson. Freddy Oleson, the smiling Swede, always smiling after he got beat for a goal all right, so we got nidermeyer.

Speaker 2 30:29

Pronger is the first pair, second pair where do we want to go?

Speaker 4 30:35

I don't know. I like tabardowski and soleil.

Speaker 2 30:39

We'll just go with the classic I mean, what do you think, doug?

Speaker 3 30:44

I'm not a Tavardowski guy. That's not my no. I personally I wouldn't have him in my defense, but that's just me. That's my vote. I love Soleil, obviously.

Speaker 4 30:57

Convince me, otherwise, then I mean, I definitely want Soleil.

Speaker 5 31:00

Soleil and Fowler.

Speaker 3 31:01

I mean there's Enough guys. I think Soleil and Beauchemin to me is a tough pairing, but I get the offensive upside of Tevredovsky. You need somebody that can contribute a little bit more offensively, even though you've got two studs in Niedermeyer and Pronger that are going to carry a lot of that. But I don't know. There was just something about Tavardowski's game that bugged me for a long time, so that may be a personal bias.

Speaker 2 31:30

What about a Beauchemin-Hampus-Lindholm line?

Speaker 5 31:35

I'm the same way as Doug is for him. That's how I was for Lindholm. I couldn't handle Lindholm's body language and his antics.

Speaker 3 31:44

Yeah, you know there's a guy that we haven't mentioned that goes way back. Keith Carney was a stud defenseman a long time with the Ducks and he wasn't a two-way guy, but he was a very solid defensive defenseman and for a second pairing if you wanted to go with him and Saleh would be a rugged second line big. I don't know how well they'd hold up to today's game foot speed-wise, but in the game where you could clutch, grab, slash, hook and cross-check those guys were very good, so their penalty minutes will be good, and Sean O'Donnell, of course, helped us win a cup.

Speaker 4 32:21

Unless you want to go off the wall and go with, bring back was it Jason York? I do not want to my goodness, I figured that one would throw someone.

Speaker 3 32:37

Yeah, is that Cam York's father father oh, I hope not for his sake because, york was a anaheim based player.

Speaker 5 32:48

He grew up playing here, so that could be.

Speaker 3 32:50

That could be. Now, the other guy that always I always have a soft spot for because of the cup run and how well he did everything kind of the routine of defenseman was joe depenta. I loved, I loved that guy. He was just he. He focused on one thing and that was defense get the puck out of his own zone and that's all he cared about. And he was very good at it. But I don't know if he's on an all-time team, but I definitely wanted to mention him as just being a guy that is always going to be a legend for the Ducks. Yeah, soleil is a staple.

Speaker 5 33:23

On the second pairing, we know that it's the who goes with him question Would we rather have Beauchemin on the second pairing or his third pairing? I feel like you've got to have Francois.

Speaker 3 33:34

Oh for sure. I think he's on the team no-transcript. A good player for a long time in this league I mean.

Speaker 2 34:07

So that was a slay and trev. They played well together, if I remember right. Right were they. They were a pair right.

Speaker 3 34:16

I mean that was the same era, so I don't know how much minutes it's been long enough that I can't remember how many minutes they had together, but they were definitely same era and probably similar on the line at the same time.

Speaker 4 34:27

I know they played together at times. I don't know if they were an actual pairing together, but I know they've shared the ice together.

Speaker 2 34:36

I don't know why the second pair of defense is the hardest one to go for.

Speaker 5 34:40

It's hard with only 6D and there's so many classes. We haven't even mentioned Josh Manson.

Speaker 4 34:46

Yeah, I mean, did we throw out Bobby Dulles?

Speaker 3 34:50

I mean Shea Theodore, too soon oh boy.

Speaker 2 34:54

Too soon Doug, too soon, brandon Montour.

Speaker 5 34:59

If.

Speaker 4 34:59

Theodore actually would have played one game. I would have considered him, but since he didn't, it's kind of hard to he played.

Speaker 5 35:06

Did he? Yeah, he had a season. Yeah, he had a, he was like a main staple. He was like one of our best defensemen in that one playoffs it was between him and man, or uh montour, for the vegas like giving up whatever it was where they like retained him, they retained montour instead.

Speaker 2 35:25

It was because I think vegas was like oh, we want um, was it botan in? Yeah, sammy yeah, and and they're like no, we want to keep botan, and so we'll give you theodore, and, and that's why Vegas took Clayton Stoner.

Speaker 4 35:43

And I think I was just so bitter on that trade I forgot he even played.

Speaker 3 35:46

Yeah.

Speaker 2 35:47

No, he was like one of our best defensemen. He was scoring quite a bit of points for us in that one playoff year.

Speaker 5 35:55

Look at him now.

Speaker 2 35:56

Yeah, now he's a Stanley Cup champion with Vegas.

Speaker 3 36:00

That's what happens when your GM is literally an alcoholic.

Speaker 5 36:05

I was going to say we could make an all-time Ducks roster of players who left and became Stanley Cup champions.

Speaker 3 36:11

We'd have a whole roster there. Just watching this last year's playoffs, it was like every game involved at least five former Ducks.

Speaker 4 36:21

Oh, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 5 36:22

I got it Homegrown too yeah.

Speaker 3 36:26

They'll look great. Yeah, sam Steele's coming up huge. What the hell is that?

Speaker 2 36:31

He can only score six goals for the Ducks, but everywhere else he goes he can get double digits. It's crazy.

Speaker 3 36:36

Yeah, they can get double digits. It's crazy. Stefan Nason suddenly is a stud player on the bottom six. What's going on here?

Speaker 2 36:42

All right, so we have Soleil. Who's his pairing?

Speaker 3 36:51

I would vote Beauchemin, but that's a personal bias against him.

Speaker 4 36:55

Yeah, I'm good with Beauchemin.

Speaker 2 36:57

All right, we'll go Beauchemin Francois. A bias against him. Yeah, I'm good with bushman, all right, we'll go bosch. Good old frank, all right. Third pair d so we still got man faller and manson, fowler manson the only other names I would throw out.

Speaker 3 37:17

There would be lindholm, who kyle uh, doesn't like he took. He took a parking spot from kyle one time and he hasn't forgotten. Yeah, literally I know. But kevin bx has another name that kyle brought up earlier. That is a? Uh, he was a great defenseman for the ducks as well and, like I said, sean o'donnell was.

Speaker 3 37:37

It was fantastic for the ducks for many years. And, uh, you go back to the originals. Keith kearney, um bobby dallas there's some names from the the way back, but uh, all time I don't know. Manson is pretty damn solid I.

Speaker 5 37:53

I was very upset when he left the team. That was that was a tough one because I thought he was some of the ducks really could have used through all of this, but good for him for getting his cup yeah no, they, as we talked about the defense of former ducks around the league, if you just re brought them back.

Speaker 3 38:12

Manson montour, theodore lindholm, fowler I right there is an insane defense if you're playing them right now. So, it's a shame that they let them all go and don't have a lot to show for it, but I'm happy with what they have going forward right now.

Speaker 2 38:34

I know this is a name we haven't said yet. Vatali Vizhneski, vitaly Vizhnevsky, vitaly.

Speaker 5 38:40

Vizhnevsky Vitaly.

Speaker 3 38:42

I see him every day at the rink.

Speaker 1 38:44

It's terrifying.

Speaker 5 38:47

I'd put him out there. He might punch me next time I see him. Why didn't you put me on your?

Speaker 2 38:53

team Rip me in half. I'm just like, look, I'm like wow, that's someone else we haven't said yet yeah, in half. I'm just like, look, I'm like wow, that's someone else we haven't said yet yeah, yeah, he was a good one.

Speaker 3 39:03

We could go with a Russian combo of Tverdovsky and Vishnevsky, just some old school, that would be good.

Speaker 5 39:09

Bring some heat. They get stuck out there with our fourth line, people might cry.

Speaker 2 39:17

I'm crying just watching.

Speaker 4 39:20

I don't, I don't know, even having just vitaly and fowler, I think that would be an interesting combo to have as a third pairing yeah, I feel like fowler deserves a spot for what he put up with and how productive he still was.

Speaker 3 39:34

I think we're doing him a disservice if we don't have them and honestly, looking at the guys we picked, we need somebody that can contribute some offense. Put them on the power. We've got four defensemen, or or. The second pairing is not going to contribute a lot.

Speaker 2 39:48

I don't know, the bush bomb is pretty nasty it was, it was, it was pretty good.

Speaker 3 39:53

But uh, I mean Niedermeyer pronger are going to be. Those guys are going to be playing 25 minutes a night.

Speaker 4 39:58

Oh, easily, easily, if not 30.

Speaker 2 40:01

And they're still not even sweating Right.

Speaker 3 40:03

And that's yeah, that's a great. So the other two lines are playing 10, 15 minutes and give you a great.

Speaker 2 40:11

So we're doing Vitaly and Fowler. As the last pair, I'm good with that. Yeah, those are two ducks. I'm glad I was like, look, I'm like who else played defense for the duck? And I was like, oh my God, how did we forget him? Yep, All right, starting goalie. This is going to be the toughest one of the night, yeah.

Speaker 5 40:30

Let's see who do we got.

Speaker 2 40:32

Who's that? Chad Johnson.

Speaker 3 40:36

Well, I got his glove right here, jason.

Speaker 1 40:39

LaBarbera.

Speaker 3 40:43

Let's go with my boy Jason LaBarbera.

Speaker 2 40:45

Hey.

Speaker 1 40:46

I'm ready to go.

Selecting the Goaltending Tandem

Speaker 2 40:47

I can't remember his first name, oh, mikhail Stelenkov. Do we have a guy? Gerber Martin, gerber Martin.

Speaker 4 40:57

Gerber.

Speaker 2 40:58

Gerber, baby Martin Gerber, martin Gerber.

Speaker 3 41:00

Geez, that's a Gerber baby, I know, yeah, yeah, no, we've had some incredible. The Ducks have been very lucky, I guess, really good at drafting, developing and retaining talent. Yeah, from day one. And you look at teams like Philadelphia and Buffalo, that are struggling to find a goalie. You look at teams like Philadelphia and Buffalo that are struggling to find a goalie and man, the Ducks have always even the years of. You know Jonas Hiller, and there was a guy I'm blanking on his name Victor. Fasch, victor Fasch, yeah.

Speaker 2 41:29

He was another one. Thank you, Chris, from late arrivals.

Speaker 3 41:32

Yes, that was another guy. Good contribution.

Speaker 5 41:34

Should have been on the pod with us.

Speaker 3 41:36

Good contributions Should have been on the pod with us. He was another guy who just came in and gave him solid goaltending for a couple years. I mean, freddie Anderson came and went and has had a great career since then. But yeah, obviously it's JS Jaguar, the greatest duck of all time, absolutely.

Speaker 2 41:56

Whose number should be retired.

Speaker 5 41:59

by the way, one of my, favorite JS Jaguar moments was his little PR thing and Getzloff was in practicing. And this is after Jaguar had left the team and he came and took Getzloff's car and completely moved it. Getzloff comes out and just pissed like where's my car?

Speaker 4 42:18

It's like a lambo or something completely gone oh, that was one of the greatest pranks ever I gotta find that video.

Speaker 2 42:27

I gotta re-watch that one.

Speaker 4 42:29

I remember that, though that was oh just watching, gets off, just lose his mind of thinking his car got stolen at the ring was the greatest.

Speaker 5 42:37

Every security guard got fired that day.

Speaker 4 42:42

You know there was that one security guard, so worth it.

Speaker 2 42:45

Right, you just see the guy. He's just counting the hundreds that freaking Shigeru gave him to not Just counting. It's all there, alright. We just need a backup goalie now.

Speaker 5 43:00

I mean.

Speaker 2 43:00

I picked.

Speaker 5 43:01

Anderson because he had the highest save percentage of all Ducks goaltenders. But he was a flash in the pan when he was here.

Speaker 2 43:10

I mean, we all had good backup picks when we all set our teams, but we just got to work together and find this last one.

Speaker 5 43:19

Did you guys all have Guy Hebert?

Speaker 2 43:22

I had.

Speaker 3 43:22

Guy Hebert. I had Hiller, I had Hebert. Yeah as well. Hebert is just literally the original duck. It's where it started. The first guy and he was a great goalie on some really bad teams, my goodness.

Speaker 5 43:38

I heard he's pretty good with the media too.

Speaker 3 43:40

Yeah, what's he doing these days? We don't hear from him very often. I know it's a shame. Would love to have him incorporated back in the Ducks family.

Speaker 2 43:48

He looks great for a guy that is his age. He looks fantastic, I do have his autograph, though he's one of the nicest guys too.

Speaker 5 43:56

He'll come and talk to you after, like they do their their segment. He'll come and talk to people and yeah, I've seen him at the rink. Super nice guy love him.

Speaker 3 44:05

I've told this story on the puck podcast many times but uh, when I was working at fox sports in the late 90s, the uh national sports report was on fox sports net back then. The National Sports Report was on Fox Sports Net back then and we had a cameraman that did not know anything about hockey and the talent gave a highlight of the game. I think he was I forget who Guy was playing for at the time and he said the name Guy Hebert. And the cameraman looked over to me, who was working to his left, and said Guy Hebert, and I said no, no, not a Guy Hebert. Cameraman looked over to me who was working to his left and said gay bear, and I said no, not a gay bear, he a bear.

Speaker 1 44:45

but his confusion of just gay bear are you allowed to say that on air.

Speaker 2 44:52

Yeah, guy's name is gay bear a bear no, no I had a friend that said that they were a ducks fan. I was like I'm like, and I was like, really, who was the first pick? Like, oh, guy herbert.

Speaker 4 45:07

I'm like, yeah, you're not a fan they're a fan that's red, you know yeah I was like, yeah, you're not a fan yeah, but I mean even just thinking about, like a lot of the guys that came through the duck system at some point or another. I mean you got Ron Tugnaut that played with the Ducks. I mean Anthony Stolarz was a great backup to Gibson for years and look what he did in Florida and Toronto. I mean you got Ryan Miller. I mean there's a lot of guys. I mean Chad Johnson had a couple of games played. Chad Johnson had a couple of games played.

Speaker 4 45:37

You know, obviously Gibson is up there. Victor Fosh, you know there's a lot of like solid goaltending talent that has come through Anaheim or even started in Anaheim. It's kind of hard to really pick that backup outside of Shigeru, because I mean Anderson is having a great career, so he's one you could look at. Like I said, Hiller's another one having a great career, so he's one you could look at. Like I said, Hiller's another one. I mean a bear is just you know the, the duck that everyone thinks of. You know right, like I mean you even had, you know, Anton who dobin. Like it's kind of hard to think of Thomas Hodges and

Speaker 3 46:11

let's look we didn't go with that, uh, that goon line on the fourth line of paris, peros, and uh, grimson and burnett. So maybe we go a goon, a little bit of a goon, with our backup goalie and go with ray emery, that man loved to fight. That man loved to fight, love to drop the gloves had the boxers on the helmet and, uh him, him on the bench would be policing things. He'd had no problem getting thrown out of a game as a backup goalie leaving the bench.

Speaker 2 46:41

We're also forgetting someone that was at both Duck and King, but his time with the Ducks he got us into the playoffs with Jonathan Bernier. Yeah, I'm not considering him as the backup, but I'm just saying that's another. His time with the Ducks was pretty good actually.

Speaker 5 47:01

I mean out of that list. Ryan Miller, I feel like is one that deserves, and Brian not necessarily an honorary cup, but that guy having to be stuck in Buffalo and how much effort and how well he played, it breaks your heart that he didn't have the success that he he deserved. But talk about someone like when miller was in net. You're like, oh we're, we're solid, we're good.

Speaker 3 47:24

Yeah, he was a uh, he was a fantastic backup I loved his attitude too.

Speaker 5 47:29

Like he's just a funny, like just a great guy. I see him at the rinks as well. Uh, just a cool guy. He's's a straight-up hockey dad now.

Speaker 4 47:39

Honestly, I'm good putting Ryan Miller as the backup to.

Speaker 2 47:42

JG, I wouldn't mind that. Done Solid gents, don't forget Oli Erickson Eck. I knew every time he started for the goals I'm like, oh, we lost.

Speaker 5 47:55

Well, I mean Anthony Stolarz. That guy's always looking good.

Speaker 2 48:02

Stolarz, I don't know.

Speaker 4 48:04

I met Stolarz a couple of times when he was with the goals and he would come out to Ontario and I would talk to him. You know, goalie to goalie and I don't know I'm a little biased towards him, but I mean he's looking. He looked really good backing up Brobroski in Florida and he had a hell of a season with Toronto. I mean hopefully it only gets better for him. I mean it also helps when you're 6'6 off the ice and then what like 7'5 on the ice Massive.

Speaker 5 48:31

I'm glad we have Dostal, though, instead of him. Yeah, dostal, much better choice.

Speaker 3 48:40

I mean, gibson is another guy that deserved better from the ducks and yeah, yeah, but my goodness, what a battler for so many years and, yeah, the last time he was the last duck remaining that knows what it's like to play in the playoffs with anaheim.

Speaker 5 48:52

So like when his trade came around and stuff he there's a lot of hands being like, well, he's injury prone. All this stuff I'm like because he was saving 50 pucks a game, yeah, he'd be injured too you would.

Speaker 4 49:07

You would think that the way the ducks overused him. You would think he played 82 games a year, seriously, for like eight years and I think he got injured.

Speaker 2 49:17

Someone ran into him this year like people were just like bulldozing. Yeah, there was no protection one game where he was just getting hit like the whole game. I'm like if I was on the defense I tell you I'm I'm beating up those people that are hitting my goalie that's why they went and picked up truba.

Speaker 5 49:32

They're like what is our d doing, bro?

Special Teams and Coaching Decisions

Speaker 2 49:34

truba. Truba was on the team through this was going on. I was like, come on, you got to protect your goalie.

Speaker 4 49:42

It's an unwritten rule Don't touch the goalie.

Speaker 5 49:44

Yep, ray Emory would have taken care of that.

Speaker 2 49:51

Gibson had a hot streak too, man.

Speaker 5 49:54

He tried to have a couple goalie fights.

Speaker 2 49:56

I was there at that, king. I'm never going to forgive those refs for ruining that goalie fight against the Kings. That was so close I was there and it was my cousin's first ever hockey game. Oh geez yeah, and I just see Gibson skating to the center. I stood up. I was like, oh my God, I was freaking out. I'm like I'm going gonna see a goalie fight live and the refs ruined it like I'm like I'll never. Those refs will forever be on my shit list I remember I was at the rain game.

Speaker 4 50:27

I had the ducks game streaming on my phone and I was like I was more interested in my phone and like oh, they're gonna do it like everyone's looking at me, it's like the game's not that exciting.

Speaker 2 50:37

This one is it's like intermission at the rain and I was like, oh my, all right, so we got our team.

Speaker 1 50:48

Now let's go over it again.

Speaker 2 50:50

So line one solani, ruching korea. Second line, perry gets off brian. Third line, kunitz mcdonff-Ryan, Third line Kunitz-McDonald-Cagliano. Fourth line Moen-Paulson-Niedermeyer, First pair defense Niedermeyer-Pronger. Second pair Saleh-Boshamon and third pair Vitale-Anne Fowler, and then starting goalie Chiguer, Back up Ryan Miller. That's a solid team.

Speaker 4 51:23

I like it. Yeah, dude, do we say that?

Speaker 5 51:27

that team competes with the 80s oilers. I mean, we have that yeah, if we're as drunk as bob murray, sure? What rules are we?

Speaker 4 51:35

playing as you know, in thes.

Speaker 3 51:37

They're going to get their asses kicked.

Speaker 4 51:38

Oh yeah absolutely.

Speaker 3 51:41

In today's game. I think I like our chances with the speed and skill they're looking a little Florida Panther-y yeah.

Speaker 4 51:48

If we're going to go back to that, we're definitely going to have to get that Astute Grimson and Peros lineup.

Speaker 3 51:52

Oh, that might be the top line yeah.

Speaker 2 51:58

As long as Ross Johnson stays away from this team, I'm happy Come on.

Speaker 5 52:03

Right, you'll have to make a graphic and send it on over, cody, because that'll be. I can't even remember what we said just now.

Speaker 2 52:12

I got to save it, I'm excited. I got to save it right here. I got it all written down.

Speaker 4 52:17

I can text it to you Perfect.

Speaker 2 52:18

Yep, yes, send it saved right here. I got it all written down. I can text it to you Perfect.

Speaker 4 52:20

Send it to me too.

Speaker 2 52:22

We still need to come up with a power play unit and a PK unit.

Speaker 5 52:26

One or two.

Speaker 3 52:27

Before we do the special teams, let me throw out something that Cody didn't ask for but I'm going to do anyway. That's the trade deadline acquisition. That's Steve Thomas, Because he was the greatest trade deadline acquisition the Ducks have ever had. He completely changed that season. Stan Chistov became a great player with Steve Thomas. He was lights out for him for three months and then we never saw him again. So I remember him fondly. But I loved Stumpy when he got back.

Speaker 5 52:59

Definition of a rental.

Speaker 2 53:01

Yeah, perfect rental Someone else. That was good after we picked him up, but then he was just injury prone right after was. Oh God, I just had the name and it left me. We got him from Dallas. Oh God, what was his name? I had it it.

Speaker 5 53:18

Then I lost it you know who we forgot?

Speaker 1 53:22

oh uh, patrick eves I was gonna mention eves earlier and then he got.

Speaker 2 53:27

He got sick, yeah, yeah that was a great trade deadline pickup. He was so good for us after that and then, yeah, he, just he.

Speaker 5 53:36

Then he just wasn't on the ice after that anymore, but that was just such a great pickup at that time he had like a disease, like something with balance or something. It was, yeah, rare disease.

Speaker 3 53:48

I remember going to uh, I went to a ducks practice as member of the media, not, I think, the following and he was out there and he came out afterwards and I was getting ready to. Oh, patrick Eves is on the ice. I was getting ready to put it on and they asked me not to because he was not going to play again and they knew that. But he was just going out there to try and stay in shape and keep his spirits up, that he was trying to fight back, but it was really tough to see him, uh, because you could see the spirit was willing but the flesh was just not there for him, unfortunately that was a because we had Eve's and Kessler.

Speaker 5 54:26

Both basically went down like at the same time and there was so much promise with that him gets off Kessler. Like you were like we have these three solid staples right here and then they just went like that yeah.

Speaker 3 54:39

That's. That's one that you wonder what if? And that same thing with the what if Niedermeyer and Solani don't fake retirement after winning the cup? I mean, we love them both, but they killed the ducks the next season and that was brutal, was brutal. So those two are the ones that I just wonder. I think the Ducks could have had multiple cups if those two things don't happen, because, yeah, those perfect fits. And, uh, that 2014 year is one that I still lament the the Western Conference final against Nashville. That was was such an opportunity.

Speaker 5 55:18

So, close.

Speaker 2 55:20

Was that 2014? 2014, we lost to LA. Or was it 17? Or 16.

Speaker 3 55:28

Wherever it was when we lost in the Western Conference Final to the Predators.

Speaker 5 55:34

That was brutal Because the Penguins won the Stanley Cup that year, whichever year it was. The Ducks were loaded. I want to say it was brutal Because the Penguins won the Stanley Cup that year, whichever year it was.

Speaker 3 55:39

Was it 16 or 17? The.

Speaker 2 55:40

Ducks were loaded. I want to say it was 17.

Speaker 5 55:43

It was after the comeback on Cotella. Yeah, and we thought they were going to go and then they choked.

Speaker 2 55:49

I was like 14,. We lost to LA.

Speaker 5 55:52

Yeah, the game seven. I just talked about that with Eddie. Oh, there you go.

Speaker 2 56:02

I talked about that with eddie. Oh, there you go. Yes, I talked about on another, uh, on another pocket. I think it was later rivals where I told him that after that, with my one guy said f salani and my dad's like get the hell out of my house. My dad kicked him out of the house after that because I was devastated because it was salani's last game yeah, and stuff like that. He was like yeah, that guy. And then my dad's like get out of my house you don't say that.

Speaker 3 56:21

Yeah, although although the uh, the end of the regular season 2014, the last regular season game, solani's last home game in there and jaguar, that was one of my favorite moments I still don't history when solani and jaguar made the victory lap one last time. I was at that game and loved it, Loved it. That moment needed to happen and I'm glad it did All right, let's get to the special teams.

Speaker 5 56:54

Andre Kosher oh, not that special If we're talking about special teams.

Speaker 2 57:00

I guess Ross Johnson should be on there too. Yeah, that's another callback right there. Yeah, when?

Speaker 5 57:13

he was on the ice, he was great. When Exactly?

Speaker 4 57:15

2016-2017 was the conference finals yeah.

Speaker 2 57:23

I hate that still. Yeah, yeah, all right, power play one.

Speaker 4 57:29

I'm still bitter about New Jersey in 2003 same again.

Speaker 2 57:35

That's why I hate Jeff freezing see it's funny like when people like nowadays, like I still figured in my eyes as a longtime ducks fan, I still consider the red wings as a rival just from all the playoff appearances against them I think everyone considers the red wings but like. But the ducks and red wings always had great playoff series.

Speaker 4 57:58

That's why I was rather bitter when Gibson went to Detroit. I was like why, like pick another team, I would have been okay. But you know you send Gibson to Detroit.

Speaker 2 58:09

For me it's like Detroit, chicago and Nashville.

Speaker 5 58:13

Like Eddie and I were talking about it and we're like it's crazy how the Kings and Ducks have only met once in the playoffs and that was that 2014. And it's like, because we were talking about the rivalry and whether it's good or not, and I was telling him I think there's more bitterness between san jose than the kings at this point, it's more the fans that are rivals than the team. Yeah, but it would be nice to have them in the playoffs against each other. Yeah frigging.

Speaker 2 58:37

Eddie tortured the locked on San Jose guy by bringing him on and then talking about that, I'm like, wow, that's pure torture, that's Eddie. But Eddie cracks me up though. I like how he always, whenever he brings up our podcast, he's always like yeah, the father's a Kings fan, the son he's something else. It cracks me up every time I listen to it. It's hilarious to me.

Speaker 3 59:01

I don't like the kings at all. I don't watch the kings. They don't exist to me.

Speaker 4 59:07

Unless the ducks are playing them, I don't pay any attention to them back to back this year but I hate the golden knights oh, that's yeah it's my son's favorite team and it kills me the only reason I somewhat pay attention to the kings is just because I live in san bernardino in ontario is right down the street, so I have season tickets to the rain because it's local hockey and of course I support the goals every time they come in. But that's about the only reason I, you know, pay attention to the kings, and it's more their minor league system, because I'm there two or three times a week.

Speaker 5 59:40

Yeah, the amount of times I've had to hear we got Marner from my son, you are grounded. Turn the Xbox off.

Speaker 4 59:53

I think it's time to teach your son what a throat punch is. I'm sure he knows.

Speaker 2 59:58

I changed the one by password.

Speaker 3 59:59

Speaking of which, we never mentioned Wild Bill Carlson, the guy that did For the Duck.

Speaker 5 1:00:06

They won.

Speaker 2 1:00:09

Did he play really any? He played one or two games. No, he played more than that no.

Speaker 5 1:00:17

He played a decent amount. He was a trade trade, right. Yeah yeah, he wasn't part of the OG OG.

Speaker 3 1:00:26

No, no, he was a good player, but I never would have thought he would become what he is, you know.

Speaker 2 1:00:37

Oh, the what? 20 games or 40 games looks like around 40 games yeah, I wasn't when.

Speaker 3 1:00:46

When he left, I wasn't like, oh my god, how did we let that guy go?

Speaker 2 1:00:49

but yeah, that's why I'm not a hockey scout all right, for the third time we need a power play unit all right, I'm going pure talent.

Speaker 3 1:01:01

I'm going korea gets left solani. I like a distributor, I like two finishers and, uh, that's my forwards. And then, uh, if you don't have neither, my pronger. I don't know what you're doing on that power yeah that's that's two.

Speaker 4 1:01:14

So we're doing three, two, or we're not gonna do four forwards and one defenseman I don't know how you take nita meyer pronger off the ice yeah, I mean, I mean progner had that, you know, that massive slap shot that definitely got him a lot of goals, or at least gave him the rebound. And you have, uh, gets off there in the middle to, you know, battle it out and pick up that rebound.

Speaker 4 1:01:39

Yeah, like it's hard to take Niedermeyer and Progner off because I mean Progner technically is going to be a little bit more offense than Niedermeyer. But then you definitely have Niedermeyer's that stay-at-home defenseman to back up just in case something were to happen. I can't argue with that power play right there.

Speaker 3 1:01:57

Yeah that's a stall unit From the point and you got two guys that will be defensively responsible and Niedermeyer can track anybody down. If somebody gets loose going the other way, he'll definitely track them down.

Speaker 5 1:02:07

I'd say he could play a five-minute power play and not get off 100% 100% and still not break a sweat.

Speaker 2 1:02:15

Yeah, All right. Pk unit.

Speaker 5 1:02:21

I like Pagliano and Boshman.

Speaker 2 1:02:25

Wouldn't it pretty much be our fourth line with Moen Poulsen?

Speaker 3 1:02:29

Niedermeyer.

Speaker 2 1:02:30

Yeah.

Speaker 3 1:02:32

That's not bad.

Speaker 2 1:02:33

Moen, poulsen Niedermeyer. We probably need two and two huh, but Poulsen Niedermeyer. We probably need two and two huh, but Paulson Niedermeyer.

Speaker 4 1:02:45

Unless we put Cagliano in there, because Cagliano is good about getting to both sides of the ice, especially with that speed. He can always get back and help out the defensemen. So I mean I'm trying to think of who do we take out in that third or that fourth line?

Speaker 1 1:03:01

well we need a center.

Speaker 3 1:03:02

I think you need Paulson, so I think Paulson Cogliano is a pretty good combo as well because you need a center yeah, mobility and and defensive responsibility so I mean Paulson, soleil, cogliano, I don't know who.

Speaker 4 1:03:18

Who do we put fourth?

Speaker 3 1:03:19

It'd have to be Well, go ahead.

Speaker 5 1:03:22

I was going to say I like Boshman as a killer. He was always solid.

Speaker 3 1:03:26

Yeah, or Pronger. Honestly, that guy is going to clear the crease, that's for damn sure.

Speaker 5 1:03:32

So we want to do Pronger. Yeah, Pronger would be good yeah.

Speaker 2 1:03:38

You guys want to do a second units too?

Speaker 3 1:03:41

let's take a look, yeah, you can't you can't?

Speaker 2 1:03:43

yeah, we got that. Go right ahead. All right, power play unit two. What do you guys want to go with?

Speaker 3 1:03:57

well, who's your center? I guess it's mcdonald, I guess it's andy mcdonald and, uh, cory perry is probably the year other forward yeah net front presence do we go younger and bring in troy terry?

Speaker 2 1:04:11

well, troy terry's not even on the team is did you is raquel on the roster. No, okay, so we could probably do Bobby Ryan?

Speaker 4 1:04:22

Yeah, put Ryan Perry and McDonald.

Speaker 1 1:04:26

There you go.

Speaker 2 1:04:30

Perry McDonald.

Speaker 5 1:04:37

Who are? Their defense defense yeah, fowler and uh screw it, let's break in.

Uniform Choices and Final Thoughts

Speaker 4 1:04:49

Cogliano dude, we'll do a four and one for the pk or pp2 what's the who's the other forward?

Speaker 2 1:04:56

cogs, who's the other forward?

Speaker 3 1:04:59

Foggs. Well, we got Kunitz as well, yeah.

Speaker 2 1:05:04

Kunitz yeah.

Speaker 3 1:05:09

I mean, who's the sniper on that group we?

Speaker 2 1:05:12

got Perry or Ryan didn't. Mcdonald have a nice shot on him. Yeah, he did.

Speaker 5 1:05:19

Ryan had the skill, though what I was thinking of having Ruchin just stay in.

Speaker 2 1:05:22

Didn't McDonald have a nice shot on him? Yeah, he did. Ryan had the skill, though why do I think you're?

Speaker 3 1:05:25

having Ruchin just staying in front of the goalie the whole time yeah, that didn't work out for well. Is Ray Bork on the ice? Because that was the start of his depression problems?

Speaker 2 1:05:34

Or just put Sean Avery. I just saw that video of Sean Avery just in front of Broder.

Speaker 3 1:05:42

Well, if you got Ruchin or Perry I mean Perry's become the perfect net front guy at this point.

Speaker 5 1:05:50

He's always been the worm.

Speaker 2 1:05:52

Yeah, yeah. So Perry McDonald, ryan Kunitz.

Speaker 5 1:06:01

Who else we got on D other than Fowler?

Speaker 2 1:06:04

We still have Soleil Bolshaman and Vyshensky.

Speaker 3 1:06:13

I mean it's got to be a 4-1 at that point. Yeah, yeah. I think you might even move Fowler to the top line to make Niedermeyer the one, because he's a rover on that second one. That could be the all. He can do, everything on defense and Fowler gets shots through.

Speaker 5 1:06:36

That's a good idea.

Speaker 2 1:06:37

So you want to switch.

Speaker 4 1:06:39

Yeah, switch. Fowler gets shots through. That's a good idea. Yeah, so you want to switch? Yeah, switch Fowler for line one.

Speaker 2 1:06:42

So who am I taking off of line one, Pronger Niedermeyer.

Speaker 4 1:06:46

Niedermeyer down to two. Yeah, put Niedermeyer power, play two. Yeah, because he's a perfect defenseman for a 4-1 system.

Speaker 3 1:06:55

Yeah.

Speaker 4 1:06:55

Yeah.

Speaker 5 1:06:59

Who's our third?

Speaker 2 1:07:02

line center. We have McDonald.

Speaker 5 1:07:06

And he's already on the power play.

Speaker 4 1:07:10

We were considering him for this one.

Speaker 3 1:07:13

It's either Kunitz or Cogliano to go with Ryan McDonald and Perry.

Speaker 2 1:07:19

I think Kunitz had more offensive to his game than Cogs.

Speaker 5 1:07:25

I think Kunitz would be a little bit more solid. I like Cogs as a killer.

Speaker 2 1:07:31

We already got Cogs on the PK1, so do we want to overuse them that much.

Speaker 4 1:07:37

I was just thinking Cogs, because he had that speed to get back and help defense if needed.

Speaker 2 1:07:42

We got Niedermeyer for that now.

Speaker 5 1:07:44

That's true. I think Kunitz would be solid.

Speaker 4 1:07:47

I'm good with Kunitz on that one.

Speaker 2 1:07:50

Alright, second PK unit.

Speaker 3 1:07:57

It's got to be Soleil Boshamay on defense.

Speaker 2 1:08:01

I would be surprised if we Saleh's already on the first pair oh, well, then Vishnevsky and Boshamay yeah, and Tali and Boshamon and then the two forwards, who was the first two pair, cogs and paulson then we're going mo and niedermeyer and niedermeyer, yeah mo and niedermeyer yeah yeah, I'm good with that because you know know Rob's going to do his business.

Speaker 3 1:08:40

And if we need an empty netter, Rob Niedermeyer's our guy.

Speaker 2 1:08:46

As long as it's not Ryan Strom, he can't hit an empty net to save his life. It moves. I could have swore it moved. I wanted to talk. I missed an swore it moved.

Speaker 5 1:08:59

I'm wanting to talk. I missed an empty net the other day.

Speaker 2 1:09:04

I have never played a single second of hockey, so I could probably miss horribly.

Speaker 3 1:09:10

I had a chance at an empty net one time. I dumped it in the corner and went for a change.

Speaker 5 1:09:14

Yay, there you go, Left left.

Speaker 4 1:09:23

The only opportunity I've ever had at an empty net is I was in high school and I was a goalie and I slung it down the ice and I hit the outside of the post. The worst part was I started celebrating because it looked like it was going and it kind of slowly tapered off.

Speaker 2 1:09:44

Now we just got one big question who's going to coach this team?

Speaker 5 1:09:51

Joel Quinville.

Speaker 3 1:09:54

I can tell you who's not going to coach it Greg Cronin. That is damn correct, dallas. Eakins Greg Cronin is not even allowed in the arena.

Speaker 5 1:10:06

Oh man, His postseason quotes had me dying.

Speaker 3 1:10:12

It was everyone else's fault, oh yeah, Well, I mean the Ducks have had some great, some great great coaches, but I want nothing to do with a lot of them it sucks that randy carlisle was the the stanley cup champion, but I would not want him back.

Speaker 5 1:10:28

No, I mean.

Speaker 2 1:10:29

There's one name that comes to mind for me that doesn't have as much controversy as the ones that took us to the stanley cup is, uh, bruce boudreaux.

Speaker 3 1:10:39

Yeah, you can't go wrong with him, but we're not going to win in the playoffs with him.

Speaker 2 1:10:43

That's true, we're going to be up 3-2 and lose.

Speaker 5 1:10:47

We'll win a Reds eating contest, but that's about it.

Speaker 3 1:10:50

He's your regular season coach, and then you switch him out. You fire him at the end of the race. I wouldn't mind that, so we'll start with Boudreaux and then.

Speaker 2 1:10:59

Quenville will take over after that.

Speaker 4 1:11:01

You know I've been saying teams bring in a few years bring in a playoff ringer, head coaches, a coach ringer, he. He dealt a lot with the expansion and the early ducks. But I mean Ron Wilson was a pretty solid coach to get us where we were. I mean, imagine if he actually had the talent to go with it where he could have led the team.

Speaker 3 1:11:24

Yeah, he got the capitals to a stanley cup and, uh, that was not a very good roster. So you put him with this roster. I think he'd do good things for sure. So we're gonna go with ron wilson as the head coach yeah, he's pretty medium there yeah, he's at least not a he's at least not a rectum Like some of the guys we got in our coaching history.

Speaker 4 1:11:50

Yeah, I mean, I mean, yeah, I mean, Carlisle got us the cup. I mean Boudreaux did a solid job in the season but he could never get the playoffs going. But I imagine, if you actually had, you know, Ron Wilson with this, this talented roster, I mean I could only imagine what he, Ron Wilson with this talented roster. I mean I can only imagine what he could have done as a coach, especially, I mean, with what he did with the Capitals and getting them to the Cup.

Speaker 3 1:12:12

Yeah, that expansion year. That team was terrible, yeah, and they played very well on the ice and that was a lot of Ron Wilson and Guy Hebert.

Speaker 2 1:12:23

Yeah, all right, and just for the hell of Ron Wilson and Guy Abert. Yeah, alright, and just for the hell of it, we can have fun with it. General manager, I mean, do we pick Brian Burke?

Speaker 3 1:12:33

I'll drink to that.

Speaker 2 1:12:36

Burke-y. I feel like he would probably be the best pick for this.

Speaker 3 1:12:42

Oh yeah, there's no doubt. I mean, that's another guy that I a. What if, yeah, yeah, what if he didn't want to spend more time with his family? Wink, I mean, what an absolute for a guy that had as much, uh, as much character and preached as much accountability as he did. What an absolutely chicken bleep way of going out, man, just lying to us for months, and we all knew the toronto job was available. Just be honest, right, there's an original six job I want to take that they're going to pay me more. Okay, nobody's going to blame you, but come on, man.

Speaker 5 1:13:25

Well then, kyle Dubas did the reverse. He's like oh, I want to spend time with my family out of Toronto and then went to Pittsburgh. That's right.

Speaker 2 1:13:34

And look how well he's done there.

Speaker 4 1:13:37

I mean, do we just go with Brian Murray as our GM? Oh gosh.

Speaker 5 1:13:44

There'll be a rise in vodka stock.

Speaker 3 1:13:46

Yeah, that's true, not Bob Murray.

Speaker 5 1:13:49

Brian Murray. Oh, brian Murray, sorry.

Speaker 4 1:13:53

Yeah, I know because Brian Murray is the one that he's the one that was there when we went to the three.

Speaker 2 1:13:59

Yeah, so do you want to do Brian Murray or Brian Burke?

Speaker 3 1:14:03

No, burke is the guy to me. Yeah, brian murray is a very underrated and forgotten man in ducks history. Yeah, that, that o3 combo of him and mike babcock were fantastic he could be the assistant.

Speaker 4 1:14:15

Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think bob murray's I think bob murray sullied brian murray's reputation, right, bob Murray sullied Brian Murray's reputation.

Speaker 2 1:14:22

Right.

Speaker 4 1:14:28

I mean, I like this team, that's solid.

Speaker 3 1:14:29

I'm anxious to see what they do in the simulation. I hope they do well.

Speaker 2 1:14:35

I hope we do well too.

Speaker 4 1:14:36

I mean, we don't have any Gretzky's or Robitaille's, but I think this is a pretty solid team we gotta get shut down for that yeah, we got plenty of people to shut down on that well, but how many times have they put like an all-star lineup together and then the lineup fails because they're not used to playing together as a team? At least with the ducks, I mean, we have what two, three lines that have, you know, actually played with each other and produced so I mean, mean, I think the chemistry is going to look better.

Speaker 2 1:15:08

I think the only line our forward lines that didn't play together was maybe our third line with did Kunitz, mcdonald and Cognao ever play together?

Speaker 5 1:15:17

No, no, Cognao didn't play.

Speaker 2 1:15:19

Other than that I mean we had probably one of the best first lines in Ducks history with Solani, ruchin and Correa they played together. Perry gets off, ryan they played together. And our fourth line was one of the best bottom six lines ever and, like I said, our third line is the only one that really didn't play together, but we made it so. That way they'd be all. We think their chemistry would work well together yeah and then we got Niedermeyer Pr.

Speaker 2 1:15:46

We made it so that way they'd be all. We think their chemistry would work well together, yeah, yeah. And then we got Niedermeyer-Pronger as our top pair. I mean, come on, yep. And then the way we made our defensive pairs, we put like a good defenseman with a good offensive touch to it good chemistry there. And then we got Chiguerre and Miller Yep. So we may not have the best players, but I think our team will work together really well.

Speaker 3 1:16:10

Oh, there's no doubt, the chemistry is there. That third line, that's the bottom shelf line man, those guys cannot. They're not tall, but they are good players. Kunitz, McDonald and Cagliano are top little bastards.

Speaker 4 1:16:28

Go ahead. No, go ahead, Kyle.

Speaker 5 1:16:32

I was just going to say, and we have all of our lines. We have success in different generations too, so it's not like old school or only new school. It's a pretty good fluctuation.

Speaker 3 1:16:44

Yeah.

Speaker 4 1:16:45

Yeah, no, I was just going to say I mean, it's like with us, it's almost like you know the great Herb Brooks saying it's like you don't need the best players on the team or the ice, you need the you know the right team. And I think we actually have the right team.

Speaker 2 1:16:57

Yeah.

Speaker 5 1:16:58

You don't have enough talent to win on talent alone. Exactly.

Speaker 3 1:17:03

You know what would be an interesting thing? Cody is picking the opposite squad. We pick the Kings roster, they pick the Ducks roster. They have to be players that played for each team, but you pick the worst possible lineup for each team.

Speaker 4 1:17:18

That would be a fun simulation Great idea.

Speaker 2 1:17:21

Yeah, I love that idea.

Speaker 3 1:17:24

That would be a fun simulation right there yeah, that would be hilarious, we should definitely bottom of the barrel yeah, they're definitely getting sean avery on their top line oh god.

Speaker 5 1:17:37

Speaking of sean avery, he has a cameo in the new happy gilmore right next to chris chileos yep, yeah, that was a great great I loved it it was good yeah, like I said, it was funny.

Speaker 2 1:17:53

It was a bad movie, but it was funny that last part. I was like I, I was like, okay, I'm just gonna go back to playing the game on my phone it's.

Speaker 4 1:18:03

it's not as great as the first one, but it was a solid seed, yeah.

Speaker 2 1:18:07

It's a lot worse. I listened to quite a few hockey podcasts, like Empty Netters. They all did reviews on it, but no one talked about Sean Avery or Chris Chelios being in it and how all of Happy Gililmore sons were named after hockey players yeah, yeah.

Speaker 5 1:18:27

Well, I thought it was like because I've been kind of following golf more recently than late and it's, uh, the amount of like actual real life issues that have happened in golf that they like had callbacks to were hilarious. That had me crying, laughing.

Speaker 2 1:18:43

They did good with that.

Speaker 5 1:18:45

I was cracking up over that.

Speaker 2 1:18:48

I did top ball for the first time last night I broke a club. I hit it so hard I think the bottom of the club went farther than the ball. I could have swore because we couldn't find the club. Because I swung and I was like, wow, this thing feels light. I looked and I'm like, oh shit, yeah, I hit more grounders than anything else than line drives. It was so sad because I finally found that three wood that I was actually hitting line drives with. After the fifth swing, that's when it snapped. I was like line drives with and after the fifth swing, that's when it snapped. So I was like, all right, well, there goes my night. But it was so much fun.

Speaker 2 1:19:30

I will definitely do that again.

Speaker 4 1:19:31

If you want to have a fun time, cody, we got the Patriots hockey fourth annual golf tournament. It's going to be out in Temecula September 21st, I know, but why are you going to do it in the?

Speaker 2 1:19:39

Duluth area.

Speaker 4 1:19:46

There's no cell service in that area. I was just up there yesterday for work, so it's so you get disconnected.

Speaker 2 1:19:50

So, by the way, when you're going down rancho california, adam I don't know if any of you guys are also marvel fans when you're on rancho california, look to your left and you'll see the hulk at one of the houses.

Speaker 4 1:20:03

Oh, nice Really.

Speaker 2 1:20:05

Dang, he has like a jet. It's like an Airbnb kind of house. They're actually one of our customers for propane. That's the reason I know. And yeah, if you look to your left, you'll see it, what's the? Address Real quick Little docs, yes, but yeah, you can see the buster suit just out there in the open, nice dang looks cool. I was like I want that before I could fit it into my little chevy malibu. Then I could probably take it home with me. Just tie it down on the roof.

Speaker 4 1:20:40

Yeah, I got my dodge ram, I can carry it. There we go I'll try to.

Speaker 2 1:20:45

I'll try to be a golfer. I mean you're not that, it's not that far from me, so I'll try to combine. I'll cause chaos where you uh, you're with your stuff, like how you cause chaos here I don't know we were.

Speaker 4 1:20:58

We were floating around the idea maybe having you and your dad come out and it'll have to be a pre-recorded show, but maybe do like a, like a special, royally clacked out there on the golf course and I would love that interview the hockey players, the golfers, all that stuff. So something like that might be fun. I'm down. I mean kyle, if you guys want to come out and do that as well.

Speaker 5 1:21:18

I mean I got, yeah, I'm getting just just the caveat I do play for guardians, so I don't want any any trouble there.

Speaker 4 1:21:26

It's like I said before. It's like we've had our issues in the past, but a lot of us have gotten over that and past that and a lot of the issues that were there have been removed from both organizations. So, no, I I don't have any issues. There's still a lot of guys on the San Diego guardians that I love and you know hang out with regularly. Like in three weeks, the weekend of the 22nd, they have the the state classy tournament, the three on three. I mean I see a lot of the guardians guys that's. I mean that's why I got my my, my dim bums, a classy Jersey on today, nice, yeah. So I mean I'm going to see a lot of the guardians guys excuse me, from San Diego out there and it's always a good time. I mean a lot of us have made up and you know hang out over the years. It's just, you know now it's just kind of that fun little rivalry of guardians Patriots.

Speaker 5 1:22:18

Are you guys going to do the Vegas tournament? During veterans, which there's a ducks Vegas game that weekend too in Vegas.

Speaker 4 1:22:26

I know I I'm hoping, I'm hoping the schedule actually works out, Cause every time that I go out to Vegas with a cause, I'm with the LA Patriots team. Every time we go and there's a hockey game, like they schedule us a late game.

Speaker 2 1:22:40

It's like really right in the middle of it.

Speaker 5 1:22:44

Well, when did we find out?

Speaker 2 1:22:46

about the Kings roster. That'll be next week. Okay, I'll have a battle royale, a little battle royale. I don't know how I'm going to simulate it. I hope I can find a way, because the person that reached out to that did it last year for us. His Instagram is no longer a user.

Speaker 5 1:23:07

Oh, I tried looking it up and gone, so I was like, oh, that's great a rough spot yeah, I love to look my, my son and I have on NHL 25, we've created the entire 2019 NHL roster, at least based off of like what rosters we could find when all through create a player and of course I am the one who has to do the footwork and do all the the build and find the face and find the hair and the size and everything. But, yeah, we've done like the entire league we've replaced into the 2019 roster. That must have taken a while. It basically like months, oh, I could imagine because, like, that's what we did last week.

Speaker 2 1:23:55

We did the. What if the nhl did a march madness style playoff tournament? Yeah, oh cool, yeah, so I, I, so I'm actually surprised nobody really guessed before, because, adam, you were tuning in, you were listening live and everything, yeah, and I was not expecting. I know it's going to be a spoiler for some people, but it's been out for almost a week now, but the Wild won the whole thing. Dang Never would have thought that it's all about one game.

Speaker 2 1:24:27

Yeah, what I did was I did it by division. You can only do 16 teams in a playoff format on NHL 25. I played the number 8 versus the number 1 in the Metro, then just did it for each division I think it was the one in the Metro Then, you know, just did it for each division. I think it was what the wild one, the central Seattle one, the Pacific the ducks, did something that Kings can never do and beat the oil.

Speaker 2 1:24:56

I was cracking up that the ducks played Oilers in the first round and then beat them in the first round. I was like, hey, we did something the Kings couldn't do. And then the Kings and the first round. I was like, hey, we did something the Kings couldn't do, and then the Kings lose to Seattle. And then was it, tampa won. And then I forgot who won the Metro, but, like I said, it was fun. I think it was New Jersey won it. Nice, so it was a fun thing. Because I came up with that like right around the March match. I was like, huh, I wonder what if the nhl did like that kind of tournament that'd be a lot of fun.

Speaker 2 1:25:27

Yeah so. But I know you and doug, you guys are doing that all draft. Uh, if teams only kept their drafted players, that's a great. I had that idea. I was like, I was like how am I gonna do that? Then you guys are doing like, oh, that's how you do it, okay, yeah it.

Speaker 3 1:25:43

it shows which teams draft well, whether they retain the players or not, which teams draft well and which teams don't, and some teams do not. San Jose is not a good team at drafting players, my goodness, but the Ducks have one of the better rosters around the league. I got to say Like league. I gotta say they're like I said.

Speaker 3 1:26:00

their defense alone is elite well, it was what that the blues had a good team there was another one you had another one that was oh, utah had a really good one too utah, the, uh yeah, going back to arizona, obviously, but dallas is good, uh, chicago pretty good, winnipeg surprisingly good, yeah know, edmonton not good either. They got obviously the best two players in the world, but beyond that not a lot with the amount of first overall picks Edmonton has had.

Speaker 5 1:26:34

It's terrifying how not well they've drafted well, that's.

Speaker 3 1:26:38

The other thing that it shows is that I'm going to try and remember this when we come around to the draft lottery again and the ducks are in. It is that it's. It's not so much about where you draft, it's having a good scouting staff. There's good players always available and, if you can, obviously you want to have your choice and be first overall. But uh, the ducks have done very well with some picks later in the pick I mean, look at Coreyry was not anywhere near the top of the draft, but he's the longest player yeah, my god, he's been outlasting the 2003 drafts for, yeah, I got my uh, I got my dvd right there of the 2007.

Speaker 4 1:27:15

in the cup and he's still playing he's he's kind of like left. He's like the tom brady of theL right now. Not with all the stats.

Speaker 5 1:27:25

I rewatch that on YouTube almost once a month, just to feel something again.

Speaker 2 1:27:31

I always do the 2003 and then the 07. Because as a kid I used to watch the 03 one all the time too. So every year I usually watch it at least once a year. I watch game five. I watch it at least once a year.

Speaker 4 1:27:43

Yep, I watch Game 5. I watch Game 5 every now and then. I'll never forget I was in a bar in Rancho Cucamonga watching Game 5 shortly after coming back from the military and I'm the only one watching the TV, cheering, and everyone's looking at me like I'm crazy. It's like hockey Hockey's on Like the Ducks are winning.

Speaker 5 1:28:03

What's this sport with?

Speaker 2 1:28:04

ice. Are those weapons? What, what? What are they skating with? No, uh, but this. This was a lot of fun. I'm glad we didn't go three hours this time yeah, that was yes.

Speaker 5 1:28:18

My eyes were like I have to.

Speaker 2 1:28:20

I was, I know, I was like, and I got to edit this.

Speaker 4 1:28:25

Even just listening to it later, like is this almost done?

Speaker 2 1:28:29

I was just like this at the end of that and just passed out, but I really like our team, though. I really like our chances. You guys have anything else to add with this team?

Speaker 4 1:28:46

not with the team. No, actually here's a better question. Now that we're all here, since we're putting together this all time rostered team, what uniform set up do we go with?

Speaker 5 1:29:00

Doug's jersey. I love it, I love it.

Speaker 2 1:29:05

I love it, it's the. Og's we got the old school Wild Wing breaking out of the ice and we got the reverse retro of it boom.

Speaker 5 1:29:20

I'm okay with that one it's hard to get away from the original, though that was just the cleanest sweater you could possibly have in the league.

Speaker 4 1:29:32

I mean I love the OG whites. I wasn't a big fan of the eggplant, though. I just love it.

Speaker 2 1:29:37

I love the eggplant.

Speaker 5 1:29:39

We could do the OG whites and then the new homes. Or what if we?

Speaker 4 1:29:43

go back to the 25th and then the new homes? Or what if we? Just what if we go back to the 25th and bring back the black?

Speaker 5 1:29:48

Yeah, that was a great one.

Speaker 2 1:29:52

There's so many people that it's like a huge controversy is the 25th anniversary Jersey?

Speaker 4 1:29:58

That was my favorite. The only thing controversial about that was the logo. No, I would say it was the, the, the teal.

Speaker 2 1:30:02

controversial about that was the logo. No, I would say it was the teal.

Speaker 1 1:30:05

It should have been more jade than teal that was a licensing issue.

Speaker 5 1:30:15

That color is still owned by Disney and they cannot use the same color. That's why it took us this long to get the rebrand. It's because it was still locked up with disney and now this like statute has ended, but that's why we had to add the eyebrow and the mean eyes.

Speaker 2 1:30:33

I love the orange eye, though. I think that was a great touch to that yeah, yeah they.

Speaker 4 1:30:37

They had to do a. What is it? I think it's a 10 change to not be copyright infringement.

Speaker 3 1:30:44

Good old disney, yeah yeah I like the uh I like the one that's behind adam there as the uh the white jersey, and I like the one cody's wearing as the the dark jersey, because we're playing the kings. They're going to be black, they're going to be silver and black. So get some orange on there to contrast and piss them off.

Speaker 2 1:31:04

I could see them. I can't remember, was it Eddie that said no? I could see them picking knowing my dad, eddie, and then Kevin that's going to be on next week. I could see them picking the form blue and gold jerseys, always a possibility.

Speaker 4 1:31:23

Probably the old-timers are going to pick the classics definitely old timers, for sure. I gotta dig at your dad when I can.

Speaker 2 1:31:35

I'm always up for that.

Speaker 5 1:31:38

I was going to say just looking into the future, when they finally do a new third jersey for this new branding, I would love to see basically like the 25th combined with the orange of the new jersey, like a blackout version of the home jersey, because I that's I like the black and gold and orange of like the web d but I hated the web d. But if they did a kind of a hybrid of like the black, gold and the the new uh logo, that would I think that'd be a solid third jersey so almost almost do like the, the reverse retro 2.0, but make it black and add a little orange.

Speaker 4 1:32:19

Yeah, like, and instead of the teal it'd be orange oh no, the the, the orange and the white and orange reverse retro that we had oh yeah yeah, yeah, that one just but black yeah yeah, well, I would love that have you? Uh, have you guys ever seen the lady ducks black jersey that they have?

Speaker 5 1:32:38

yeah, well, it was. It's the triple a and the lady ducks, they the whole Junior Ducks program for Tier 1, they brought out these new jerseys. I thought that's where the Ducks were going to go with this new rebrand. It's like orange and black and then they have the white and orange. It's pretty clean.

Speaker 4 1:32:59

Yeah, I like their all-black one, but I think they need to add little white into it or something. It just it seems too much just the black and the orange. Yeah, add a little bit like a white striping or something that I think it would be a solid jersey yeah, I wouldn't mind doing something like with the 30th anniversary too.

Speaker 2 1:33:19

You know, maybe just doing an updated logo on it it.

Speaker 4 1:33:22

What if you do a reverse retro on that? Do you like the teal with the black on the bottom?

Speaker 5 1:33:28

Yeah, there you go Something like that. That'd be pretty clean.

Speaker 2 1:33:31

Chris from Lit Arrivals, Black third, and then an eggplant heritage jersey would be complete. A perfect uniform set, in my opinion.

Speaker 5 1:33:40

Oh yeah.

Speaker 2 1:33:41

Yeah, all right, all right. One last jersey question For the Ducks' current away jerseys do you guys want them wearing the white helmets or the orange helmets?

Speaker 5 1:33:52

I like the orange.

Speaker 4 1:33:54

I could go either way.

Speaker 5 1:33:56

I go either way I don't like it with the home jersey. I like black with the home.

Speaker 2 1:34:02

I like the orange. I think the only thing they would need to switch is maybe go to black pants.

Speaker 4 1:34:07

Yes, yes, I have been an advocate of that since the beginning. I think everything is too much orange, especially home and away. Just make a black pants, break it up. I think it'd be so much better.

Speaker 2 1:34:19

I think with the way, keep it as is, just have the orange helmet, and then for the home, keep everything the same, just black pants.

Speaker 1 1:34:30

What about you Doug. Orange helmet.

Speaker 2 1:34:33

I like the orange helmet and orange pants on the road, and I'm good with black pants for the home, as well, I think I agree Because, honestly, after seeing Ross Johnson johnson play, I just call him the human traffic cone, because that's just what he looks like out there. Um, literally a pylon, yeah, literally a pylon. So but like I said, I I like the orange. I don't mind the alt, the whole orange. It looks great on the ice and everything, but I think it does need just a little more contrast. I think the black pants.

Speaker 4 1:35:05

But I'm also weird on it too, where I think, even if you keep the current setup at home but switch it to a white helmet, it might just be enough of a contrast to stand out a little bit more.

Speaker 2 1:35:18

You just can't do white helmets at home because usually the weight teams are wearing white helmets, I know. And then, chris, I still want to see the orange matte helmet that would be great, that would be nice. No, orange chrome, we want orange matte.

Speaker 4 1:35:31

I want orange chrome, just to bug you.

Speaker 2 1:35:35

No, you want it to bug my dad more, because my dad hated the chrome thing for the Kings he hated it. The Kings should just adapt that forever I do miss those like king's jersey. I like those, except for the chrome domes, but those jerseys I liked, honestly I feel like the league should just go to matt black.

Speaker 4 1:35:58

I think it's so clean yeah yeah I mean, I patriots, we have a all black jersey that I went and bought the matt black helmet from the ontario rain sale just to have with it because it looked clean.

Speaker 2 1:36:11

Oh, that's nice matt just does always look cleaner. Yeah, but all right. Well, I think we're all ready to get out of here uh sir doug, you want to tell everyone where to find Puck Podcast at.

Speaker 3 1:36:27

Wherever you find podcasts, that's where we are. We're also on YouTube and we're on social media, but not much. If you want to follow us, you're there. Then there's, of course, patreoncom slash puckpodcast as well.

Speaker 2 1:36:41

Kyle, where can they find you?

Speaker 5 1:36:46

Same as Doug Anywhere, podcast as well. Yep and kyle, where can they find you? Same as doug. Anywhere you listen to podcasts, we're there apple, spotify, even amazon fire stick. You can find us on youtube and then all the social medias it's at lo underscore ducks, and you can also find me at car talk sportscom or at cartalksports for socials. Yeah, kind of just everywhere and nowhere at the same time.

Speaker 2 1:37:09

Yep and Adam, where can they find you in Patriots Hockey?

Speaker 4 1:37:13

Patriots Hockey we have. Patshockeyorg is our website. You can find us on all socials Instagram, Facebook, twitter. We're kind of all over the place, so you can definitely find us there and that's where I'm usually at. Also, like I said, the September 24th or 21st is our fourth annual golf tournament. If anyone wants to come out, registration is now open. You can find that on the website. You can find it through all of our socials. And if anyone needs a break from the fun little Southern California heat wave we have, going on the weekend of August 22nd we'll be down in San Diego having the Classy San Diego Hockey Tournament. It's a three-on-three tournament. Everyone just calls it Stay Classy. It's always a fun time. Yeah, so we'll be down there that weekend as well if anyone wants to come down and just have a break from the weather.

Speaker 2 1:38:01

Yeah, someone on Instagram called the Clutchutch told me not to listen to you, adam hutch is just mad because I stopped him uh, okay he thinks he's a better scorer, but when in fact I'm a better goalie ah, okay that makes sense I just thought I'd add that in there hutch is one of our san diego patriots.

Speaker 2 1:38:23

He's actually going to play on my dim bums team with at the classy tournament and he's going to be playing with us out in vegas this year as well awesome well, and then, uh, you guys can find royally quacked on all social medias at royally quacked, and also we're on all podcast platforms and you can subscribe and follow us here on youtube and twitch. Uh, we appreciate it and we'll be back next week with the all-time Kings roster and hopefully we'll have a simulation, probably the week after that. So, on that, I guess we all got to. We only have to do one chant today. I don't have my dad to ruin it, let's go.

Speaker 5 1:39:00

Ducks.

Speaker 3 1:39:01

Let's go.

Speaker 4 1:39:02

Ducks, we still got quack quack, quack, quack that is very true.

Speaker 2 1:39:07

So, alright, thank you everyone for tuning in and don't forget to send in who you would like to see on the Ducks roster if you would like to change anything or add anything, even though I think ours is perfect. But just tune in next week and we'll have the Kings all time roster for you. So we'll see you guys next week on. Really quick, thank you everyone.

Speaker 5 1:39:58

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