Royally Quacked: An LA Kings and Anaheim Ducks Hockey Podcast

Episode 102: Ducks Soar, Kings Stink and USA Sweeps Gold!

Cody Spink and Gary Spink Season 1 Episode 102

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A golden goal, a louder save, and a flood of emotions that felt like destiny. We open with USA–Canada and live inside the game’s thinnest margins: why Canada’s shot share didn’t matter, how Hellebuyck’s angles and patience turned chaos into order, and the split‑second stick that erased a sure goal. Jack Hughes finishes the script, families hit the ice, and yes, there were tears. We balance the awe with detail—MVP chatter, all‑tournament picks, and the small decisions that win tournaments, from who dresses to who sits.

That energy carries into the NHL week. We rewind a pivotal draft class to ask how archetypes shape teams: Boldy’s fit vs Zegras’ flair vs Turcotte’s path, and what those choices teach GMs now. Then it’s all rubber and boards—Kings blow a lead to Vegas and get steamrolled by Edmonton; Ducks stage wild comebacks against the Oilers and Jets. We dig into why: faceoff losses, weak layers, blocked shots, special teams swings, and the difference between possession and pressure. The verdict is blunt. LA needs heavier details and clarity behind the bench. Anaheim’s kids have juice, but the structure must protect the crease and turn chaos into repeatable chances.

Trade season sharpens the stakes. We lay out realistic targets and costs, push back on rentals, and argue for moves that matter next year too. Want a true top‑pair defender or a two‑way goal threat? You’re paying with real pieces. We test packages, challenge valuations, and keep the rule that matters: don’t break the room to make a headline. Along the way, there’s a curling meme, a quick rules explainer, injury notes, and community love for upcoming tourneys.

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Setting The Stage: USA Fever

SPEAKER_02

Welcome back, hockey fans, to Royally Quack and USA, USA, USA, USA, USA.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah. So I'm just curious how many people were for that game last week?

SPEAKER_02

We're at the game.

SPEAKER_03

No, I said it was up watching the game.

SPEAKER_02

Oh, I don't know. I think it was quite a few. I know of quite a few, quite a few people. And then, you know, we have church, and mom and I run a ministry at the church, each of us different ones. And we have to be there like at 7:15. So I was watching it on my phone because first service I I didn't really have to do much. And then it started at like at 740. Yeah, 7:40 for first service. And I think the game was over by then. And pack uh Pastor James uh announced the USA one and ruined it for a lot of people that were uh recording the game. He did it at every service and you know cheered on USA.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, uh, because I tell I texted you uh 754 that they won. Or maybe he said, I don't know if that was I can't I can't remember if you I can't remember if that was my first text of that day.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, and I got up, I it had just started when I got up. I didn't get up right at like 510. I got up at 5.15.

SPEAKER_03

Oh, I I got up at five and then straight to my office to watch the game and closed the door just in case if I started yelling.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, um it that very controversial when you think about how it was played. It just goes to show you just because you play overall better doesn't mean you win.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, um, I'm not gonna deny I guess we could just go straight into talking about the game. So that was probably the best game I've ever watched. Ever. Like the play was so great, like they were very physical in the first period. I mean, yeah, Canada was dominating for the most part in the game, but I mean USA looked good at a lot of good times too, and they were saying like the grade A chances was only 13 to 8 in favor of Canada.

SPEAKER_02

Only only that's I mean that's like 40 or 50 percent more than what USA had. 13 to 8 is 50 more of eight would be four, and that would only be 12, and they had 13.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, just I mean, well, I mean, the the main reason why there was one main reason why we won. Hello Buck, hello buck, and you'll hear his name later, too.

SPEAKER_02

Um what a what a it was a great game, yes, and it's so nice that USA wins, you know, they played their hearts out, you know. The thing is, is you can dominate, but if you don't follow through, the I I just think USA followed through a little better than Canada did, yeah, and hullabuck was incredible.

Goalie Greatness And The Save

SPEAKER_03

Jennifer True True B says, Hi. Hello Jennifer, good good morning, and welcome to Royally Quacked. He's quacked, I'm royal. Yeah. Let's see if I can pull up the see if I can pull up the screen share. It was this right here. The save. Oh, that was that was I thought so. When I first watched it, I just thought I was like, wow, he missed it, and then they showed the replay, like I can't remember, like four or five minutes later, and then they I saw them like, oh, he saved that. I was like, holy moly! I was like, wow, that is the save of like that. That was I was like, wow, that was the save of the tournament, save of the year. Of course, this is my favorite one that someone posted as a joke. I'm gonna show you right now. Let's see, screen share. A little uh fun at making fun of the Canadian guy that was touching the stone twice. Oh, yeah, he did do it. No, he did. So apparently, I didn't know this. I'm not a big curler expert or expert in anything, but I guess in certain tournaments you can't touch the tone the stone twice, but not in the Olympics, twice, but not in the Olympics, yes. So I thought that was funny when I saw that. So shout out to the person that I screenshot that with, but I just I found that hilarious. We were talking about at work, and I found that. I'm like, oh, they're gonna get a kick out of that. Um, but yeah, just hell stood on his head in that game. He was fantastic, and no one can say now that he does not play big in big games. Like he is I mean, the one goal he gave up to McCarr, that was just a very pretty shot, like well placed and everything, and unbuck was locked in.

SPEAKER_02

I say I say it was.

SPEAKER_03

I don't know, I was disappointed Kemper didn't play at all, but okay, so we can also talk about that too. Like, you know, you had someone on your team that didn't play once, and I mean it's kind of normal. I I think I I think we expected Kemper to not really play because he was the third goalie, but Lacomb didn't see any ice, and he and a lot of people use their extra defensemen or forwards, and Lacomb didn't see not one second of ice.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, that's that I I do I agree with that. You know, if you're gonna ask him to play, give him a game, give him a game against a team you know you're gonna beat.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, like I feel like he could have easily played against either Latvia or Denmark.

SPEAKER_02

You know, I think he he's proven to be a high quality defenseman. You know, they were going with the veteran presence that they've they had last year in the four nations, kind of so I they won the gold, so we can't really complain, but you know it's not any fun where you're sitting and not playing. When you when that's what you want you want to play. I I've had that happen in my past where like when I first started playing softball, um, we get we we if we would got to the playoffs, all of a sudden I'm not playing. I'm sitting there watching, and I go, I hated that, you know. So I gotta tell you what it did. It it did definitely inspired me to really work on being a better player, and yeah, with by the third season, I was leading off and one of the best players on the team. So but it did, I gotta say, it probably did inspire me.

SPEAKER_03

If we're talking about like basketball stuff, I think with my high school situation, I could have been a top offensive player, and I still wouldn't even see in the court the way the the coaching was there at the time.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, he he he had he had his way.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, and the only thing I said, I'm not naming names, but the only problem that I I I saw with that is it that that system he had cost his teams games.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah. And it's funny, even before you well, maybe you were a freshman that year. You remember that team that went, they went to the quarterfinals, the the varsity did.

SPEAKER_03

That was my June, that was my freshman year.

Curling Meme Break And Rules

SPEAKER_02

Okay. What was the name of that the big guy that he all of a sudden wasn't playing very much who was really a good player?

SPEAKER_03

Oh, Greg.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, and and uh you know, me, I can't shut up. And no, and you're you're the varsity assistant coach was your head coach, yeah. And and I I went up to him and I go, I you know, because I'm that was my sport. I I was all league in high school, and I go, why aren't you guys playing Greg? He's six seven, and the guy can shoot, yeah, you know, and and it's an advantage that you guys have, he's not playing, and you know, I can't say I could take credit for it, but it wasn't too long after that. All of a sudden, he started playing more, and that's when they started playing really well, yeah. And they had they that was probably one of the best teams your high school ever had. Yeah, I think it probably is the best team they ever had, unless you know in the last what 10 years they had a better team. I can't I don't think so.

SPEAKER_03

I honestly I I don't keep track of it anymore, uh, with that. Um but I I just want to say the the scoring for the gold Olympic game. So in the first period, at the six-minute mark, Matt Boldy scores what a that was a beautiful play. He like flips the puck in the air, taps it down, gets and goes in between two defenders, and you know who the two defenders were mccarr and taves. So he goes right in between them, gets the puck, and nice little uh gets a nice little breakaway and just slides it uh short side on on Bennington, and that's how USA goes up one-nothing.

SPEAKER_02

So what you what year in the draft was he? What what year was that?

SPEAKER_03

I want to say that he was the same draft as Ziegris and Turkey's.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, I think he was like 10th or 12th or something like that. Yes, I want to say and I go, you know, because I remember that the juniors that year, and I and I'm going, why is that guy not off the board? Now I could understand why Ziegris was ahead of him, and I could also understand why Turcott was ahead of him then, but I really liked Baldy. And I go, could you imagine? I mean, do you think you guys would have traded him and like you traded Ziegris? I mean, who knows what he would have been like, but I could tell you right now, uh you know, Turcot's become a good player, yeah. But but he's not a Boldy.

Hellebuyck, MVP Debates, All‑Tournament Team

SPEAKER_03

So I think with Bold If we have Verbeak as a GM, if we had Boldy instead of Ziegris, I think Boldy's more of a Verbeak player than Boldy's big, he can he's physical, he can play multiple ways. Zigris was more, you know, offensive and not as physical, right? So I think Boldy would have definitely stayed. So yeah, here's here was the draft order. Jack Hughes went one to New Jersey, and everyone thought, and uh the Rangers fans were happy because they wanted Capacaco. Look how that turned out. Um for Rangers. And it's funny, a lot of these players are not even with their draft teams anymore. So Jack Hughes still with the Devils, Cabo Kako's no longer with the Rangers, he's with the Kraken. Kirby Dock is was third to Chicago. I think he's in Montreal. Bowen Byron went to Colorado. Now he's in Turkot went five to LA, still there. Cider uh to Detroit, still there, but that was a great pick. And that he that wasn't yeah, I will give him that. That that good job on that pick. Dylan Cousins went seven to Buffalo.

SPEAKER_02

And he's he would I would take Dylan Cousins over Turkot.

SPEAKER_03

Easy, yeah. Now and now he's with um Ottawa. Philip Roberg went eight to Edmonton, and now he's with uh St. Louis Ziegris went nine to the Ducks, now he's with Philly. Uh Silly Podcolson went 10 to Vancouver, he's now with uh Edmonton. Uh Victor Soder Soderstrom went to Arizona. I think he's where is he? I don't know where he's at now. Don't worry about it. Oh, they're saying oh he oh, he's with um Boston, and now Matthew Boldy went 12, went to Minnesota. Oh, yeah. And I'll just do the left. Yeah, you did. I knew it was I I wasn't saying you were wrong, actually.

SPEAKER_02

Oh, I wasn't sure I was right. That's what I remember.

SPEAKER_03

When you said 12, I'm like, I'm pretty sure it was 12. Spencer Knight went 13 to Florida. Now he's with Chicago. Um, I'm I'm gonna go to all the way to 15 because there's another important player. Cam York to Philly uh at 14, and then Cole Caulfield went number 15 overall.

SPEAKER_02

And he's another one, he was another one that I wish we would have picked up.

SPEAKER_03

Thomas Harley 18.

SPEAKER_02

All went after Turkot, all of them are better players than Turkot. Yeah, I mean, nothing against Alex Turkot. He he's an NHL player, which is that's elite status as it is. But if anybody wants to debate that, I don't think there will be one person that all those players are a better player currently than uh Alex Turcott is. So yeah, and even uh Zegris, so and then yeah, oh yeah, especially this year alone.

Draft History And Boldy What‑Ifs

SPEAKER_03

Zegris, I all will say zero, except for that uh stupid slashing thing he did. Um, but back to the USA Canada game because we went on a whole tangent about Matthew Baldy, but no, it's fine. That's why we're here. Um Kale McCarr at the 38-16 mark in the second period, um, ties it up uh with a goal, Devon Taves with the lone assist, so now we're tied 1-1. We start the third period, and Sam Bennett took a horrible high-sticking penalty and just whacked Jack Hughes in the face, and that's why he saw the missing teeth. Yeah, he chipped a tooth, and then it's funny because then uh in the middle of that four-minute power play that they had, because it was a four-minute minor, Jack is end up high sticking someone, but and then we so that and then we end the the regulation, and then we go into overtime, and at 6141, three on three overtime, and it's funny because so the desk, my desk right here is a standing desk, so I can move it up and down. When overtime started, I had this thing. I I moved my chair off to the side. I'm like, I cannot sit for this, I have to stand, which I do like about this desk, is I can stand if I need to stand. I I have that same kind of desk at work, so it it really helped because I was like, okay, I need to stretch my legs. Like I was like, I was just glued to the TV watching this game. Like, I had people like I was getting notifications on my phone, and if someone texted me, I don't know who it was, but I was just like, I could you know, I was like, like this, just at the game, and I I swear at the end of the game, I was I I was like this, like, oh, I I kept doing this on certain plays, or and I'm like, oh my god, I'm gonna look like my dad at the end of this game, and everything. I was glued, I could not take my eyes off the screen. So I love that.

SPEAKER_02

Thank you for the slap in the face, son.

SPEAKER_03

Oh, you embrace it. Shut up. God made perfect heads and they put hair on the rest. Yeah, don't say it. Yeah, exactly. So I speak the truth. What can I say? Anyways, so we go into overtime, and Jack Hughes makes not just a he made a great defensive play on Connor McDavid of all people, and then um chips the puck up. Zach Rowinski is fighting for the puck with Nate McKinnon, and who comes streaking on the other side all alone is Jack Hughes. Rowinsky slides it over, and he Jack Hughes goes five-hole on Binner, and that is the golden goal. Yeah, you will say I cried watching it. It was so like I was so happy. I was crying, I was a little tearful, and then what really made the tears really flow is when they brought Johnny's uh Johnny Goodrose kids on the ice and everything. I was like, oh crap, I just tears. Yeah, it was such a great game. If you guys can go back and watch it, go back and watch it. I highly recommend it.

SPEAKER_02

It was that's that's gonna be in the record books for a long time, bud.

SPEAKER_03

No, only the only the third time we've won out of all these years on the anniversary of the miracle on ice, yes.

SPEAKER_02

It it was destiny, bud. Let me tell you that destiny and on Jane Washington's birthday, and your your mom came up and she goes, if they don't give hella buck the MVP, oh no, they're wrong, and I'm sitting there going, Well, you know, Jack Hughes scores the winner. Is that would would they do that? I go, I I I totally agreed with your mom.

SPEAKER_03

No, a hundred percent.

SPEAKER_02

And then and a little later, um I saw that they gave him the because I I stopped watching, we had things to do, you know, so at church and stuff, and uh, and I let her know that hullabuck won it. That made her happy.

SPEAKER_03

Uh no, he didn't he he didn't win MVP.

SPEAKER_02

He won MVP of the game.

SPEAKER_03

There is no MVP of the game. They don't oh he he was probably the first star of the game.

SPEAKER_02

No, they called him the MVP of the game. Oh, I didn't hear about that. Um, but it was it was even on the ESPN app. Hullabuck won the MVP of the game.

SPEAKER_03

Uh oh, okay, of the game. So here's the 2026 player awards for the Olympics. MVP of the tournament was Connor McDavid. Well, and given.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, he was he was incredible.

SPEAKER_03

Uh, best forward, Connor McDavid, best defenseman, Quinn Hughes, uh, and best goalie was Damian Clara. No, I'm just kidding, it was it was Connor Hellebuck. Good joke, kid. Yeah, and then the uh 2020.

SPEAKER_02

He does have a sense of humor. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

Um, in 2026, um, the all star team. So here's the first team. Um, Macklin Celebrini, Connor McDavid, and Uri Slavkowski is the forwards. Quentin Hughes, Cal McCarr are the defensemen. And then Connor Hellebuck was the goalie. That's the like the team of the tournament.

SPEAKER_02

Wow. I can't disagree with that.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah. And then um just uh so we took we mentioned, you know, Dowdy and Kemper got silver, and then Lacomb got gold, but there's um two other kings that got medals that we should also praise. Um, goaltending coach Mike Buckley for the Kings got gold with Team USA. I mean, it's pretty easy to to win a gold if you got hellabuck and goal like that.

SPEAKER_02

Well, let's think about that. What kind of year is Hellebuck really having?

SPEAKER_03

I don't think it's really him.

SPEAKER_02

Well, but he's not having that Vesna. What the last two years he was a Vesna trophy winner. He came in having to prove something, yeah. And it sometimes when you're uh you're on the spot like that, you know, you play mind games and you and you fail. And I gotta tell you, he he was fantastic.

SPEAKER_03

Oh, an all all tournament. So yeah, kudos to him.

SPEAKER_02

I know you're gonna say next.

Ducks, Kings, And Medal Count Connections

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, and then um uh Darren Granger, he is the head equipment manager for Team Canada. He also won a silver medal. So I just wanted to you know congratulate them because you know they're I know the coaches don't get medals, but you're still part of a a meddling team.

SPEAKER_02

It was Sullivan, right?

SPEAKER_03

What's that? Sullivan was the coach, right? For USA, yes, yeah, yeah. So you so USA sweeps gold, and that was the first time team USA has won both men's and women's gold medals and Olympics.

SPEAKER_02

And the women were yeah, they were dominant until the uh gold medal game.

SPEAKER_03

No, they were still they were still dominant in the gold medal game. It was just Canada, you knew Canada was gonna play uh better than they did in the pool play game. Yeah, but well, they were the women's they were missing dominated.

SPEAKER_02

Uh they were they were missing a key player, and that key player made a makes a huge difference in how Canada the women's Canada team played. But they gave USA everything they could handle, and it was getting close to maybe a one-nothing shutout win until the captain made that tip.

SPEAKER_03

So, and I know we talked about that last week, so and then one other one last thing before we head into Ducks and Kings stuff is um this great picture right here of Connor Hellenbuck uh having the Secretary of Defense sign, and then him all and then hit uh I'm gonna spoil one of the notes, but let's see where is it right here. Uh Donald Trump announced that Connor Hellenbuck will be presented with the Presidential Medal of Freedom, which is I think the first time um um a hockey player or even an athlete has ever got that award.

SPEAKER_02

Mom saying don't don't forget who got a bronze medal.

SPEAKER_03

No, I know I was I wasn't gonna get there. Yeah, so um Mikhail Granlin did captain Team Finland to a dominating bronze medal game. I believe they won five to one. Um so congratulations to uh mikhail grandlin on that. I know he was very proud, very happy to be able to captain team Finland to a medal. Which and like I said, and everyone counted them out.

SPEAKER_02

There was somebody else on Team Finland.

SPEAKER_03

I don't know. I'm just kidding. Uh Joel Yola Armia won gold medal as well. And he played well. He did play very well.

SPEAKER_02

He is surprisingly way better. He's he's the one of the bright spots for the kings this year. I mean, I'm one of the very few bright spots.

SPEAKER_03

I go, we got him to be a penalty killer, and he he ends up being one of our better players, which is kind of I hate to say, like, good on Armia, but kind of sad on the other end.

SPEAKER_02

Well, yeah, don't depress me now.

SPEAKER_03

But well, I I mean that's don't don't blame me, it's blame your team.

SPEAKER_02

Well, uh you remember when the ducks signed signed Grenlin, I go, that was a great pickup. I I I wasn't always happy about it. I've always liked him.

SPEAKER_03

I've i i i I did not like him in Nashville, that's all I'm gonna say, just because he was on Nashville. But um, we'll we'll go into Ducks news right now.

SPEAKER_02

Um because you have so much, yeah.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, I know. Um because there's not really still not much to go off of, but like the next week we're gonna have a lot of news already because we got the trade deadline on Friday. Um, so um, but head coach Joe Quenville became just the second coach in NHL history to reach 1,000 wins joining Scotty Bowman. So what a great accomplishment.

SPEAKER_02

Scotty Bowman's probably the greatest coach ever.

Around The League: Injuries, Coaches, Trades

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, well, I mean, he still has 200 technically now 243 wins more than Quenville.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, but he also has a lot of cups.

SPEAKER_03

Yes. How many cups does he have?

SPEAKER_02

I'm not sure he Montreal. He got cups in Montreal, got cups in Detroit when Detroit was just so dominant. Um, I don't really know. I mean, something you can look up.

SPEAKER_03

I I'm looking it up right now.

SPEAKER_02

So while you're looking that up, I'll just go to all right.

SPEAKER_03

Get get you want to do go ahead. Yeah, guess eight. Close. I'll I will give you I'll I'll give you I'll I will give it to you. Nine Stanley Cups, five with the Canadians, 73, 76, 77, 78, and 79. One with the penguins in 92, and then three with the Red Wings 97, 98, and 2002. Great, greatest he also won um five times as a member of an organization's front staff, too. Yeah, he won it uh consultant with the 2008 Red Wings, senior advisor of hockey operations uh with the Blackhawks for their three wins. Oh my gosh, yeah, and then uh he was a player, uh director of player development in '91 with the penguins.

SPEAKER_02

That's an incredible uh career. Um that's gonna be tough to beat. Yeah, so so we'll we'll move on to Kings News. Yep, of course. Um a part of uh Kings of the Podcast, Dennis Bernstein, and it said this says of fourth period because he is a writer, confirms that the LA Kings and the Montreal Canadians spoke about Patrick Laney, but there wasn't a really a good fit, and the Kings have pivoted uh other directions, and right now we have no idea what that is.

SPEAKER_03

I honestly I think stay away from Lyne.

SPEAKER_02

I I would I I I right now I'm gonna tell you, Kings fans, you know, if we're gonna get a player that that can be significant for the next three or four years and not break the bank, make the trade. Otherwise, let's just play out the season, hopefully get a little bit higher draft pick, maybe get lucky and get a guy like Caulfield or something. You know, I'd rather do that than trade away everybody, and then you got Panarin, and that guy are the only guys who can play. Anyway, so we'll move on to that. Um, and we now know what the price was for the number 72 for Artemi Panarin. See, do I have I I know Bailey asked for a Rolls-Royce, and you know Rolls-Royce, he did, and and Aaron kind of looked at him and he goes, you know, um, I'm I'm probably a future Hall of Famer, and you're you're in a suit, looks like a lion.

SPEAKER_03

Did I not say that?

SPEAKER_02

But they did come in, they did come in, and they agreed on a Rolex. So I do have a question, Bailey. Why do you need a Rolex? You're a lion.

SPEAKER_03

Because kings deserve royalty, right?

SPEAKER_02

Rolex is like a royal watch.

SPEAKER_03

So here it is. Yeah, um, so Bailey just he didn't just he didn't just give him the the they they share the number now.

Kings Recap: Vegas Collapse

SPEAKER_02

I know the price to be able to share the number. Yeah, and honestly, who really cares? I mean, are we disappointed that they share the number? I'm not. I it was a great uh marketing ploy. I I give the kings credit for that. I mean, making it a little bit fun for him to get uh number 72. That was that that was fun, and you know, if people would just pay attention to hockey a little bit more, they would see what a great sport it really is. There's so many people that just don't know how much fun hockey can be. I mean, you got you know, you I and it's brutal, the game is brutal, there's a lot of hitting. You think football's bad? These guys are they they don't have uh 30-second breaks between each play, so you know it's every bit as exciting as football or any other sport. In fact, I'd rather watch hockey than any other sport now 100% agree with you. So so I saw this in a in a reel on Facebook, so I thought I would share it. Um Kings fans, what do you think? Warren Fogle for Andrew Mangiapani. Would you make this trade? I know I would probably make it in a second. I'm just gonna be honest with you. Mangiapani is he he's more of a goal scorer than Fogle is, and you know, Fogle's he's he's in the doghouse. I mean, he I know he's been playing here a little bit more lately, but he hasn't been playing that much because he just wasn't producing like the last year was.

SPEAKER_03

So um let's see. I don't think they can make that trade work. Oh, money-wise, money-wise, because let's see. He made oh wait, I wait, hold on, 3.6. How much does Fogle make? He makes about the same 3.5, I think. Okay, they could make it work, actually. It the trade would work.

SPEAKER_02

I think that's why it why it was said. Here's my question to all you Kings fans: how much longer is Hiller going to be the coach? You know, I don't know.

SPEAKER_03

I heard I heard fire Hiller chants.

SPEAKER_02

Oh, good. Well, no, it's it's it's it's huge. Um, ladies, have you ever gone to the baby shower and you get to protect when the baby's born? This is sort of like that, only in hockey terms. And not it now, some not good news. Uh, forward Joel Armia did not return to the game due to an upper body injury, and also Drew Dowdy. I'm not sure if those were the same two games, or it was the same game, and Drew Dowdy he won't return for a lower body injury. So not only are we we uh we're playing like we're a rented mule. Now we've got two of our better players not playing, yeah. You know, and it's it's it's getting to the point where are we going and how are we gonna get there? Somebody needs to make a decision, you know, and yeah, it took the ducks a little while to figure out we just need to totally rebuild. And the only problem, the only problem with that, you're pretty crappy for a few years. But if you do it right, and I gotta tell you, I think the ducks did it really right. Look at all the young talent that they have. I mean, have have they really missed badly on their picks? I don't think badly, you know, maybe there might have been a player, might have done a little better for them, but I I really I haven't searched it out because almost every one of them is playing pretty good. Yeah, then I gotta say, you know, oh my god, wow, that kid is incredible.

SPEAKER_03

Who? Oh my god. Who's oh my god? Oh, think about it.

SPEAKER_02

Okay, yeah, Seneca. Oh my I'm saying, oh my, I mean, I saw him poke check last night. You know, I I got home, nobody's home. I put the game on, and I got it. Oh, before I finish that, I'm gonna come victory plus. It it doesn't work on our TVs very well. I it works on my phone, but I mean it constantly stopping and then coming back. It was irritating, but he made a poke check on somebody last night, and it was like the only one. Well, I know it's it's not working. That's not working. Um, that's frustrating. Now it did work on my phone. I I watched the last like five minutes in the third period, all the exciting part on my phone because it was I love hockey, but that was driving me crazy that it kept pausing and then coming back. I I ended up when I put it on my phone, I was a minute and a half behind. Yeah, on my TV.

SPEAKER_03

I had the same exact issue last night. I was it was I watch on my computer like 95% of the time. It was great until like and then like a lot, I right when overtime started, I just got the loading screen. I'm like, wait, what, wait, what? And it was just as overtime was starting, so I'm like, crap, crap, crap. And so I freaking went on my phone, started up so I could start watching it. I restarted my computer and try to get it going, and sure enough, and just as I loaded everything on is when the goal happened. I don't want to spoil my recap on the game.

SPEAKER_02

Okay, we'll move, we'll move past that. Yeah, so not everybody's frustrated with Victory Plus then. Yes, I I haven't watched it that much lately because the ducks have been on 13 a lot, and you know, sometimes at work when I'm there alone, um, I won't have the sound on, but I'll I'll have the game when I'll look at it every once in a while while I'm doing work, and I'll I'll watch the game but not listen to it because I don't want to be totally distracted, I want to get my work done. So but I do, I do what all you duck fans. If I please don't hate me. I I I I like to watch the ducks play. I mean, if you're playing us, I want you to lose, of course. Hey Kevin, how are you? Hey Kevin. Unless you're a Kings fan. Okay, I love that, Kevin. I mean, how how many? I mean, if if I only could see all your hands up, Kings fans, how many of you were just disgusted at the game the other night? Oh my god. I I actually when it got 5-1, I turned it off. I just I turned it off.

SPEAKER_03

Okay, well, let's finish news and then we'll talk, we'll go into recaps. Okay, you start and uh I'll start. Uh Paul Coffee is returning to the Oilers coaching staff on the bench. I I think this was just like a vibes move. He works really well with the defensemen guys, so I think that's what it is.

SPEAKER_02

You know, obviously, we saw what Quinnville's done with the ducks having the right coach, right? Oh, coffee they Edmonton was very successful with coffee on the coaching staff. Yeah, I wonder, I wonder if he got a Rolex. Okay, David Pignoda is reporting that Andrew Nangiapani is expected to be traded by the deadline and that the Oilers remain in talks with several teams regarding him. Go Kings go.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, honestly, he was a pest when they were they were playing against the ducks.

SPEAKER_02

Well, you know, I it was just a few years ago he was scoring 35 goals. Yeah, if I remember correctly, 30 to 35 goals. How how many guys actually do that?

SPEAKER_03

None on the kings.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, that's true. Do you guys have a 30 goal guy yet?

SPEAKER_03

Not yet. The last time last one we had was Vitranto a couple years ago.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, he had 37, right?

Ducks Recap: Oilers Comeback Thriller

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, yeah. Um, next bit news is uh according to Ian Kennedy, a PWHL expansion announcement could be coming by the end of April. I'm kind of hoping we get like a Southern California team.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, that would be yeah, the girls play is incredible. I mean, team you uh that team USA was just wow, dominant.

SPEAKER_03

I they were just unlike any other team. It was it was crazy.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, probably the one of the best teams we've I bet you it was the best team we have ever had. Um, Miko Ratnon has been placed on the IR retroactive to February 20th. That's a huge hit for the stars. Huge hit, yeah.

SPEAKER_03

Um, Seattle Kraken have extended uh Ryan Winterton to a two-year 1.125 million AAV contract extension, and also Ben Myers to a two-year one million AAV contract extension.

SPEAKER_02

Uh here's uh the news that thank you, Cody, for already spoiling. Donald Trump announced that Connor Hullabach will be uh presented with the presidential medal of freedom. I gotta say it anyways. Yeah. Even though you took it away, even though you took it away from me.

SPEAKER_03

Yep. Um, penguins captain Sidney Crosby is expected to miss a minimum of four weeks with the lower body injury. Something we didn't talk about when we were discussing the the gold medal game, is there was no Sidney Crosby in that game. So Connor McDavid had a captain again.

SPEAKER_02

Let me ask you, would that make a difference?

SPEAKER_03

I think it could have.

SPEAKER_02

I have a yeah. I you're you're talking he's alone. He he's 38 years old and plays like he's 22 still. Yeah, I mean, in face-offs alone, uh he wins more than anybody ever since um God, what was the guy from Boston? Bergeron, right? Yeah, Patrice Bergeron. Ever since he retired, Sydney Croby Crosby, I think, has led the NHL almost every year, and face-off wins. He's incredible. So on Wednesday, 225, the Lightning have announced that John Cooper will not be behind the bench uh that night or the next night due to the passing of his father. You know, we have uh prayers and comfort to you, John, and your whole family. I I know how it feels to lose your dad. I lost mine a long time ago, and I do think of him very often, sometimes daily. I had a great dad who gave me a lot of great advice, which I wish I would have listened to sooner.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Hint, hit, hit.

SPEAKER_03

Um, Kevin says in the chat, I'm not normally a political guy, but Jack Hughes for president. No, I'm sorry, I'm going Connor Hellebuck for president. We'll always be protected.

SPEAKER_02

Oh, I get it. Not good, Cody. Not bad. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

Um, the Rangers have claimed forward Ty Cartier off waivers from the Kraken. So uh good. I'm glad he's out of the conference, out of our division. I did. Not like that. Him good riddance goes like a New Yorker.

SPEAKER_02

Yes. And the Penguins have traded defenseman Brett Kulak to the Avalanche for defenseman Samuel Gerard and a 2028 second round pick.

SPEAKER_03

That was a great trade, honestly, for both teams.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah. Yeah. I I I guess yeah, Kulak's just a little bit better, but in my mind, I always think of them pretty equal.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

I mean, maybe I'm wrong with stats and everything, but just when we played them, you hear their names, and you know, they're always making plays. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

So yeah, and Brett Kluak was part of the Tristan Jari trade to go from Pittsburgh to Edmonton. Or yeah, uh, he went from Edmonton to Pittsburgh. Uh, he was kind of like the to help the salary kind of work, and then now him going to um Colorado for Gerard. Now the cap hit really helps um the Avalanche because Girard was making five million a year, Kulak's only making 2.75 million, so they gained so really the second round pick was for the money. I I would say it was like, hey, like help us take this cap hit off kind of thing.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, we'll we'll take the cap hit off, and we'll give you a second round pick to do it.

SPEAKER_03

Plus, I think Colorado needed a more physical kind of defenseman, and Gerard wasn't physical. So, yeah, I think he's on his last year. Yeah, he's uh Brett Kulick's on his last year, uh, and Gerard still has uh another year on a contract, so he's this year and next year. Okay, so and then where's it get back to the notes? Game recaps. Do you I'll let you go first let's say you can get your games done and over with. So I'm doing them all. Uh no, we'll switch off, just you start.

Kings Routed By Edmonton

SPEAKER_02

Okay I can do that. And I went out for a second there. I'm gonna have to talk to my internet company, I think. Um the scoring gets started off uh just a little over halfway through the first period when Pavel Dor Durdaev.

SPEAKER_03

God, these names are scordaev is what everyone calls them.

SPEAKER_02

Oh yeah, it's 27th goal from Lezinski is third, and Smith is eighth on a wrist shot, and it's one-nothing Golden Knights, but Quentin Byfield on the power play, uh gets his 12th from Panarin is 39th, and Clark is 22nd at the 1431 mark, and it's one-one.

SPEAKER_03

Also, Panarin's first point as a king.

SPEAKER_02

That's true, that's true. And the thing is, uh, I mean, I don't know. I I watched the game.

SPEAKER_03

Did you watch the goal that play?

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, uh, it went off his he went off his skate, yeah. It went off his skate and then he moved his foot.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, it was weird.

SPEAKER_02

It but but but but he really didn't direct it. No, he didn't. And I I I think uh the video uh team for the golden knights go, oh, we're not gonna, we don't want to go on the uh on a PK because it wasn't a kick, it wasn't a kicking motion.

SPEAKER_03

He it so like it it went the puck went like this and went and then he like went forward, like it went it bounced, yeah, and the kicking motion after it was just kind of but you know what we need to get him kick started, anyways.

SPEAKER_02

I and I don't know if y'all realize pun intended.

SPEAKER_03

Um what nothing?

SPEAKER_02

Oh that wasn't intended. Oh maybe in the maybe my subconscious was, but I wasn't I wasn't I see what you did there, dad.

SPEAKER_03

I see what you did there.

SPEAKER_02

Any anyways, um uh they but they got byfield playing forward, right? Yeah, I saw that. I know and he does still do he's still doing some face-offs. And uh I don't know if it was this game or the next the other game. Um, when I looked, even though he's playing forward, the one game um, and it was not over with yet, but he uh he was three and oh in face-offs when I looked that time, so and that's one thing he was weak at as center is face-offs. So, you know, we'll we're gonna see where that goes. Then we go to the second period, and who scores but Adrian Kempe gets his 21st, like that number from Kope.

SPEAKER_03

I'm sorry, did you see that? That was such a pretty play. It was a very pretty play, very pretty play. It like just Panarin to Kobe to Kempe. I was like, wow, that was pretty.

Ducks Edge Jets In OT

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, and you know, uh Kopi got his 17th assist, Panarin is 40th is second as a king, and after two periods, the kings are up 2-1, and then we go to the third period, and you know, the rented mule came out. Uh uh Colton Sissons got his fourth from Bowman is 14th, and Aiden Hill, the goalie, got his first assist of the season to tie the game at the 807 mark, two to two. That you know, this guy he seems to hurt the kings. I don't care who he plays for. Uh Brandon Thod gets his third from Sissons is fourth, and Holtz is sixth. Now, are you hearing these names? You're not hearing Eichel, you're not hearing I was gonna say that at the end. You know, you're not hearing they were down five of their best players. Hannah's not in there, uh, Marner's not in there.

SPEAKER_03

So no Hannah, no Eichel, no Marner, no Theodore, and no Stone.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, so they're missing like five of their best players, and now it's three, two Golden Knights. Then Riley Smith gets his 10th from Lezitsky, his fourth, and McNabb his second. Oh, ex-king Brand Brandon McNabb. He he has uh been with the Golden Knights since they started, and so now it's four-two, and it was looking bleak, but Quentin Byfield gets his 13th from Kuzmenko his 11th at the 1326 mark, and at least brings the kings back in the game. Then Skoryv scores his 28th on the power play from Lezinski as fifth. I mean, look at the these guys. I don't even know these who he is, to be honest with you. He's he's got what three assists in this game, and it's only his fifth for the season, and Bowman is 15th to put him up 5-3. I gotta at least say the the Kings did attempt, they did come back at least a little bit each time. Brandon Clark gets his seventh from Kempe is 27th, and Kumsmenko is 12th, it's 5-4. But Barbachef scores an empty netter at the 1932 mark from Hurdle is 28th, and McNabb is third. The final is 6-4. Golden Knights and the rented mule gave up five goals in the third period. So let's go to the game stats. Shots were 25-19 in favor of the golden knights. Hey, the Kings won the face-off 53.8 to 46.2. The Golden Knights were one for two on the power play, the Kings for one for one. Wow, that made our percentage go up. But um hits uh golden knights 26, Kings 24. I think that's the Kings are really low on on uh hits and block shots this year, and I think that may be one of the biggest differences why they're not playing well. We need to hit and we need to block shots. That's why we're giving, I think, giving up more goals. We're not getting in front of the puck. Now, here's the block shots: golden knights 24, kings 14 giveaways, kings 13, golden knights eight takeaways. Hey, we won this one five three. Way to go, Kings. And the three players of the game, third star uh from the kings, Quentin Byfield with two goals. Uh, second star was uh Colton Sissens with a goal and assist, and first star is Skoriev with two goals. On to your first game, Cody.

Predictions And Coaching Heat

SPEAKER_03

All right, on to our first game. So the ducks host the really mad Connor McDavid and the Edmonton Oilers. Um, so the scoring got started very quick in this game, but not the way Ducks fans wanted. Um, Jack Roslovik with the 16th of the year, the scoring started at 13 seconds into the game. First shot, first play, really. So 1-0 Edmonton, and then um at the 903 mark, um, Ryan Nugent Hopkins gets his 14th of the year. Honestly, this was just a great play by McDavid and a great shot by Nugent Hopkins. Like, it was just a very like top shelf. They he had a very tiny opening and he hit it pretty much on Dostal. Um, so it's 2-0 Edmonton, and then at the 10-03 mark, um, Ian Moore off like someone like passed it across, and Ian Moore just came up and hit the just slopped a puck straight on net and it went in. Like it was, I don't know how it went in, but it did. It I think it should have been an easy save for Jari, but nonetheless, Ian Moore gets the scoring started for the ducks. Um, Harkins and Johnston with the assist on that. That was Ian Moore's third goal of the season. Uh Harkins' third assist and Johnston's 11th assist. And then we move into the second period down 2-1. And then Alex Calorn on the power play cleans up the dirty area, gets his eighth of the year. That was Leo Carlson's 28th assist, or sorry, 27th assist, and McTavish's 18th assist. And I don't know if I mentioned that was Calorne's eighth goal, and we're tied 2-2 at the 3-01 mark. And then, sure enough, again, and this is just before the second period happened, or I mean ended. Um, Zach Hyman gets a goal, uh, makes it 3-2 at the 1845 mark on a tip-in. And then Evan Bouchard gets just a nice little open shot, and uh that was the 16th of the year, and that was at the 9-1920 mark. So it's 4-2 Edmonton going into the third period. Not pretty. And then, but luckily, Leo Carlson's back from injury and he's looking better than ever. Uh, he scores to get the scoring start in the third at the uh 130 mark in the third, his 19th goal the season. Um, Truba, his 17th, and Kreider's 12th. So it's 4-3 Edmonton. And then what about not not even 90 seconds later? Olin Zellwegger gets on the board on a nice slap shot from the uh from the blue line, makes it uh ties it up 4-4. Uh, that was Zellwegger's seventh gold year, good as 10th assist, and Troy Terry's 32nd assist. So now we're tied 4-4, but then Matt Savoy um gets a scoring for on the power play for Edmonton to make it 5-4. Um, that was his 10th of the year, and then Buckets, as we call him, the Calder trophy, future Calder trophy winner, Beckett Seneca gets his 19th goal of the year, ties it up, Lacombe gets his 32nd assist on a nice snapshot play from um Seneca, and then at the 1846 mark, and by the way, on that Beckett Seneca goal, they pulled Tristan Jari. Uh, and then at the eight, like I said, at the 1846 mark, this had been one of the prettiest passes I've ever seen in a hockey game from Leo Carlson. Leo Carlson literally threads a needle with this pass and gets it all the way to Cutter. Cutter kind of misses the first shot, but luckily it hits a skate, gets it, gets his composure, and then puts it in the back of the net to put make it six, five, Anaheim. And that was Cutter Gautier's 26th, 26th goal of the year.

SPEAKER_02

That was Leo struggling between assist and goal there, kid.

SPEAKER_03

Yes. Well, no, not assist, it was the the the 26th, the like sixth. Um, but uh that was Leo Carlson's 28th assist and Chris Kreider's 13th assist, and that is your game winner game set match. Um, ducks win 6'5 in uh regular time over the Edmonton Oilers, and that was the ducks eighth multi-goal comeback of the season, and that was tied for second best in franchise history.

SPEAKER_00

Wow.

SPEAKER_03

Um, three stars of the game. You have Alex Clorne as a third third star with the one goal. Um, Connor McDavid was the number two star with two assists, which I think Matt Savoy should have been the number two star because he had three points. Um, and then the number one star, of course, is Uncle Leo Carlson. One goal, two assists for three points. The stats, the ducks did outshoot uh Edmonton 29-27. Um, faceoff percentage uh 58 to 42. Um, Edmonton was one for two on the power play. Ducks were one for five. We did out hit them 23 to 21. We had more block shots, 15-11, but also more giveaways, 24 to 15 and eight takeaways to five for Anaheim. And the ducks win this season. Actually, no, sorry, we did not. We're tied for the season series right now at one apiece. Our next game is on March 28th. Um, and that is an it's gonna be a very early game, Pacific time. That's a 12:30. All right, wait, can you hear me? I can hear you. You went out for a second. Yeah, I know my mic went out. Um they do have a watch party. The ducks have a watch party at Brewery X, and I'm gonna try to go to that game. At the brewery. Uh March 28th, Saturday. Okay.

SPEAKER_02

You you might want to let them know the date.

SPEAKER_03

I did. I said it earlier. Oh, I didn't know. Yeah, March 28th is when they play again. Okay.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah. Um, so the penguins won that goalie trade, don't you think?

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, they did.

SPEAKER_02

Okay, all right. So thanks for making Edmonton mad. Anytime. The rented mule came out and brought 10 of his buddies for this next game. So Kings, Edmonton, first period. Scoring at 725. Ty Emerson gets a second from Roslovik is 10th, and Savoy is 12th. One, nothing, Edmonton. Then at the 18 uh 8819 mark, uh how do you say that? Pod Colson? P Colson. He gets his 13th permit. What?

SPEAKER_03

Say that again. Pod Colson. Pod Colson. Hod Colzin. Pod. Um Adam's in the chat now. He's a crap, totally spaced out, missed the first hour. Man, we st I would say 95% of the time we start at 10 a.m. And you know that. They said, but love that LA Edmondson game.

Trade Targets And Values

SPEAKER_02

You're very sick, very sick, Adam. Okay, so uh now it's 2-0, Edmonton. And then Warren Fogle gets a seventh from uh Edmondson is 15th at the 1215 mark, it's two to one. Then roll out all those rented mules. We're gonna go to the second period. Moungiapani gets a seventh from Hyman is 15th, and Eckholm is 24th, 3-1 Edmonton. Conor McDavid gets his 35th from Hyman is 16th, it's 4-1 Edmonton. Then Hyman uh on the power play gets his 24th from Drysidel is 52nd, and Bouchard is 50th. Each of those guys, besides Panarin, who scored most of his points with another team, have more assists than any king has points. And then you throw McDavid in there, and probably half the other at Edmonton. We got they outscore anybody on the kings. So now it's 5-1 Edmonton, and that's how the second period ends. Then Drissidal on the power play in the third period puts Edmonton up 6-1 from uh his 30th from McDavid. Wallman gets a sixth from Savoy, his 13th, and Dreisidel is 53rd to make it seven to one, and then Wallman again gets his seventh from Dreisidel is 54th, and that's how the game ends at 8 to 1. Oh my god. I mean, I think I think uh the arena was empty before the the the game even finished. Let's go to the stats.

SPEAKER_03

Edmund way out, they're saying fire hiller. Yeah, well, it's kind of fire hiller.

SPEAKER_02

I I think they did need to do that the sooner the better. I mean, obviously, a we see how a good coach look look at what Anaheim came became after they got put a good coach behind the bench, it makes a huge difference. So, but 37 shots to 22. Yo, we got totally manhandled in the face-off circle. 66.7 percent to 33.3 power play. They were at 66.7 percent on the power play. They were two for three. We for were oh for two. We did out hit them. Wow, 21 to 11, but they blocked 14 shots. We blocked 11. We gave away 12, they gave away 11. Takeaways, they had four, we had three, three stars of the game. Um, it has to be all Edmonton because the Kings were already out of the building when they announced it. Uh Walman uh was a third star with two assists, Hyman was a second star with a goal and two assists, Drysidel was the first star with a goal and three assists. And bringing in Panarin, I mean he he actually he looks good, but it really isn't helping us win. Um we got dominated on this game. It it's to me, it's just sad. It was frustrating. I turned I turned it off, I think five to one. I I had a frustrating week. I didn't you know I didn't want more frustration, so I just turned it off. I usually don't do that, but I did. No, I'll be honest, I did.

SPEAKER_03

So um, Adam put in the chat, I I I do know that, but I totally spaced on what day it was, wanted to join in on the Olympic talk. Well, that was the beginning of the podcast.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, the first the part that you did miss, but if you um hey Adam, uh you're as good looking as Hiller is a coach.

SPEAKER_03

Um Adam, if you want to join in, I can send you the link if you want to join in and talk uh after we're done with the recaps and everything. Um uh Adam also says Hiller's doing a great job, in my opinion.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, I I yeah, I know. He's you're as good looking as he is a good coach. Now here's a pick at you at I'm sorry.

SPEAKER_03

Now here's the thing. Would you r if you had a s start bench or cut these three coaches, who would you pick? Dallas Eakins, Greg Cronen, and Hiller.

SPEAKER_02

I don't think I'd want to start any of them. I'd want to cut all three of those.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

I mean, to be honest with you, Hiller's been more successful than the other two.

SPEAKER_03

I'm as pretty as a garden gnome.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, that's plane crashes. Thank you, Adam. That's just bad choices. I mean, but Hiller does have a better record than the other two coaches do. So you'd probably have to start him. And that depresses me.

SPEAKER_03

Uh Adam, if if you scan the QR code, you can join the stream if you want. You're more than welcome to always come on. Alright, but we'll go into the the Ducks-Jets game. So again, not a good start for the Ducks. First shot of the game for the Jets goes right on net. Right in tack of the net. Axel Follow scores his 10th of the season at the 124 mark. And then uh so it's 1-0 Winnipeg after the first period. So we're going to the second period. Um, got it's like these former kings just keep coming to haunt us. Um Vellardi on the power play scores his 23rd of the year to make it two nothing Winnipeg. Luckily, Jacob Truba helped us out and got the scoring started for us. His 10th of the year uh to make it 2-1 Winnipeg. Uh that was his 10th goal of the year. Tim Washi's second assist, and that was at the 1919 mark. So literally just before the uh second period. Um, and then third period, Elias Salomonanson. God, you try saying that name, Dad. I want to see here you try to say that name. Um, this is the goal that really pissed a lot of us ducks fans off. And I I know I say I probably complain about it too much, but last night was just it was too obvious on how bad the refs were. And the refs missed an obvious tripping penalty on McTav uh that uh because McTavish got tripped. Like stick between the legs, he fell. Puck was going to the Jets immediately, and then they scored like 20 seconds after, if that, maybe sooner. Um, so a lot of ducks fans were not happy about that goal right there. So that made it 3-1 Winnipeg, and that was also Solomon Solomonson's first career goal.

SPEAKER_02

Solomonson Solomonson.

SPEAKER_03

Okay, I got it.

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You asked me to say it, I did.

USA Destiny, Iconic Saves, And Memes

SPEAKER_03

After I probably said it right. All right, anyways. But Uncle Leo helps us out again. His 20th of the season on the power play. Um, Lacomb's 33rd assist and Seneca's 27th assist to make it 3-2 Winnipeg. And that was a 632 mark. Um, and then Pavel Minchikov gets scoring uh his seventh of the season, uh Dallas Beckett Seneca's 28th assist, and Drew Hellison's 10th assist, and now we're tied three three, and then what I think is the play of the game, or uh yeah, um I would say yeah, play of the game. Ryan Paling goes one on four, he's a solo man, takes on four Jets players, gets behind one, then it goes like one on three, and just snaps it right across Hellibuck, far side, and takes the lead. Um let's see, hold on. I'm gonna I'm gonna send uh Adam the he's gonna join us. Uh give me a second, give me a second, Adam. Hold on, let me get to my Gmail. Um, and then I'll let's see. Uh do I already have uh let's see Pod. Alright, give me a second, hold on. Sorry, everyone. I'm trying to I'm trying to add Captain of Chaos. All right, all right, back to our schedule programming. Um Pavel Minchikov tie uh oh no, sorry, Ryan Palin gets his sixth goal of the year. Like I said, just a pretty play that he had. Calorin gets his uh 12th assist and Minty's 10th assist. So now Anaheim's up 4-3, and that was at the 1650 mark. And then the Jets pull their goalie, and then somehow Kyle Connor gets the wide open net and he puts it in. So now we're tied four four, and that was at the 8 mark, and then we go into overtime. I would say is the second best play of the of the game where Beckett Seneca just walks the defender who lays out to prevent the pass going across on his stomach and just lays out, and Beckett Seneca just drags the puck back, goes around, and kind of gets Hellibuck to kind of come out a little bit, and then that's when Hellibuck slides it right over to Kreider, and Kreider has a wide open net. That's your overtime winner. Um this time Seneca didn't look off Kreider. This time he actually passed it to Kreider, so the win in overtime, and that was Kreider's 20th goal the year. So that's a third player to now get 20 goals a season. Uh, and that was second uh Beckett Seneca's 29th assist. Um, and now that is a franchise tying comeback win from multi-goals again. So that was nine multi-goal comebacks for the ducks this year. Wow. I'm just waiting for I'm just waiting for Adam to hit the thing. Uh we'll go into the stats. Um, ducks did outshoot them 40 to 33. We did lose on the face-offs, but they were a lot closer this time. It was 53 to 47. Ducks were one for two on the power play. Well, Winnipeg was one for four. Ducks should have had a lot more power plays than this one. Um, hits 23 to 14 for Anaheim uh in favor of Anaheim, 15 block shots for us, only six for them. Um, each team had 13 giveaways, ducks had eight give takeaways to Winnipeg's four, and right now the ducks have won the season series, two games to uh to none right now, but the next game is on March 10th, and that one will be in Winnipeg. And then there are three stars of the game. Number three is Beckett Seneca as with the three assists as the number three, Ryan Paling with the I guess almost the game-winning goal, but then Kyle Connor had to ruin it. But he gets the second star with the one goal, and then Chris Crowder with your overtime winner is your number one star, and that will be it for uh the game recaps.

SPEAKER_02

So, you know, we are doing a much better job of predicting wins. You are now six games over 500 at 31 and 25, yeah, and I'm only two games under 500. I was like 10 games under there for a while. I'm at 28 and 30.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, you are.

SPEAKER_02

So maybe just predicting them to lose would be a good way to go for the rest of the season. I'll probably at least win more than I lose. I mean, they look awful. It's just it's it's awful. And and uh I got a co-worker named Steve. He used to be on on the team I'm on, and now he's on the AM team, and he he just walks in and he goes, When are we gonna fire Hiller?

SPEAKER_04

And I go, how about today?

SPEAKER_03

Join the club. All right, so it's not working.

SPEAKER_02

I don't I don't know. Is Adam coming on?

SPEAKER_03

I sent him the link, so we'll see. Um but let's we we can do it, we can go to game predictions while we're waiting.

SPEAKER_02

Okay, all right. So you want me to go first?

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SPEAKER_03

Okay, no, I'll start. Um, so tomorrow the Ducks are hosting the Calgary Flames, and I'm gonna predict a 4-1 win. And I know we've struggled against the Flames, but I I have a good feeling about this one. And then on Tuesday, um, the ducks will host the Avalanche, and this one I feel like isn't a good as planned. I'm predicting a 4-2 loss. And this one, and then on Wednesday, the Ducks are hosting the New York Islanders, and this will be the last game before the trade deadline official uh uh ends. Um, I'm predicting a 5-3 win. I think we're gonna play, we're gonna play come back with vengeance on the islanders. They took care of us in New York. I feel like we'll take care of them at home. So I'm predicting a 5-3 win. And then on Friday, but this game is after the trade deadline is over. Um, they play against the Canadians, and I'm predicting a 6-4 win. And I'm saying we're gonna get chicken for the last two games of the of the week.

SPEAKER_02

You're gonna get chicken.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, because if the ducks score five goals at home, we get chicken. I think they get the win, too.

SPEAKER_02

So what what did you predict on the Canadians?

SPEAKER_03

A 6-4 win.

SPEAKER_02

I forgot to write that down. Okay, so I'm gonna go to my games. And all except for the Islanders, we're gonna tire out the team for you, hopefully. Uh today, the Kings play the Flames. I have a 4-3 Flames win. And then Monday we play against the Avalanche. I have that a 6-2 loss, and then Thursday we play the Islanders, and I have a 5-4 loss. I don't, I actually I I just I can't believe that this team can be a playoff team. And I you know, I'm one thing I I am is beautifully, or not beautifully, I'm I'm honest.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, so mom says, should we do a trade or stay the way we are? Um for the ducks, I'm saying if we do go out, because I'm gonna say this. There's it's better to maybe trade for someone that has I don't want to buy a rental. I I don't want the ducks to go get a rental player if they're gonna trade. I want someone that's gonna stay on the team for at least this year, next year. Oh, great. Here we go.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, geez, oh my god, and everything. Oh, I'm enjoying those Canadian Tears Boys. The captain of chaos has to do something on here with that championship.

SPEAKER_03

All right, so my mom asks, should the ducks trade or stay the way we are? What do you think, Adam?

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SPEAKER_01

Um I mean, who are we gonna trade for? I mean, if we pick up uh what pick up Robertson, maybe uh he can help out. I mean, pick up maybe another little bit more offensive uh defenseman, kind of that two-way, that two-way defenseman going back and forth, you know, someone that can play that 200-foot game and cover both ends of the ice. But I mean, really, who's out there on the market that we want to pick up and pick up for one of those roles?

SPEAKER_03

So for defense, I already had someone in mind, someone who actually wanted the ducks to sign the offseason, but he went to Nashville, and that'd be Nick Purbix from uh with Nashville right-handed shot. I think you'd pair well with Lacomb on the top line.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, so so you're not making a uh a really Robertson's a huge move, and I mean who wouldn't want who wouldn't want Robertson, to be honest with you. Who wouldn't want Robertson? Um, yeah, but but you guys need to be tougher on defense, and I think that's what Cody's thinking about, right, Cody?

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, but no I mean, I wouldn't mind someone on uh like on the forwards too, just like for just to add extra depth. I mean, we have the the cap space, I just don't want rentals. That's the one thing I'm worried about. I don't I don't want us trading our first round pick for a rental. If we're gonna trade our first round pick, let's get someone that's gonna be on the team for two two to three years after this.

SPEAKER_01

Well, I mean, that's why I kind of want Robertson. Robertson, we can pick up that uh you know, get him a little bit more of a long-term contract because we have the cap space uh space to bring him in. But he also plays a good 200-foot game as well. Like he'll help out on the defense, he always back checks, you know, he likes starting plays, you know. So Robertson would definitely be a good pickup, but I do agree we do kind of need to maybe pick up more of a kind of a defensive defenseman. I mean, I love Gudis, I love Truba, but when it comes down to it, like they really just kind of you know stand there in the defensive zone. Like, you need to be the one, you know, getting guys out of front of the net because that's one of Dosol's problems, is we have too many people in front of the net.

SPEAKER_03

A lot of tip like deflection and tip goals that are going in. That's what's hurting us the most. Uh, my mom says, I think I think stay as um wants, I think she says we want to stay as we're in a good groove, don't mess up the chemistry. No, I I get that, but if you can get if we're gonna go for forwards, I want us to get like Kairu or Thomas from uh St. Louis, yeah.

SPEAKER_02

But I think that'd be what do you what are you gonna give up for that though?

SPEAKER_03

See, yeah, I mean I see what but those are players that are worth spending on because they're gonna help long term and they're in their prime and at a good age. Uh Kairo and Thomas from St. Louis.

SPEAKER_02

Okay, so now that you talk about that, because I I I kind of agree with your mom, you guys have great chemistry. Who are you willing to make a make a reasonable trade that both teams would do?

SPEAKER_03

Can you do that? I would do okay, so for Thomas, it's gonna be a lot heavier for Kairu. I think it's not gonna be as much. Um, so for Kairu, I would do. I think I'll probably add either one of Zellweger or Minchikov. Now I would do, and I hate to say this, if you did go get Thomas, Thomas, I would this year, uh Roger McQueen and um Solberg to go get Thomas. Kyrie is gonna be a little I Kyrie's gonna be a little bit cheaper. Um, probably like Solberg and a first round pick or something like that just to get him. But I think Thomas is gonna be harder to get. Go for it, okay.

SPEAKER_02

Adam, uh, let's hear your ideas. I I'm I I'm I'm off obviously either one of those trades. If I'm St. Louis, I I want I want just a little bit more.

SPEAKER_01

My mine's a little bit more off the wall.

SPEAKER_02

Um well, we know that already, Adam.

SPEAKER_01

Well, he um he actually showed what he's capable of in the Olympics, and I'm just gonna go ahead and start off with what I would give up for him. And I'm kind of thinking uh Owen Zellwigger, maybe a Tristan Leno, probably a second round pick just because of you know, you got to throw in that little extra form. But why don't the give up that and go after um Warinski in Columbus? Because you know he's not that happy in Columbus with the way that team's playing, and what in the Olympics, he's a force to be reckoned with if you actually have a team around him, and I think the ducks have that team that could make him prosper.

SPEAKER_02

Well, I and I'm gonna be honest with that. That's not enough if I'm I'm Columbus. You're talking about uh top top three defensemen in the NHL.

SPEAKER_01

Well, that's why I said, you know, starting off with a second round pick.

SPEAKER_02

I mean, obviously, Zellwigger and Leno, nothing close to him, and a second round pick. No, I wouldn't make that trade if I was Columbus. I'm just being honest, I'm honest. That's an honest. I mean, you're stealing that player. You guys both gave trades, you're stealing them, and these other general managers aren't stupid, so you have to be real of what you're gonna take.

SPEAKER_03

How about this? For for Rowinsky, because he's a left shot. I I would do how about this Lacomb, a first, and McQueen.

SPEAKER_02

Oh, that's more reasonable, I think.

SPEAKER_03

Because honestly, I would probably pretty much replacing Lacomb with Rinsky.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, but I would probably give up Solberg instead of McQueen to start off with. At least my first offer would probably be Lacoon.

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SPEAKER_03

Yeah, but I'm just saying I think McQueen is a stronger prospect than Solberg. I mean he has a higher value.

SPEAKER_01

Well, because originally I was thinking that I would give up um like Zellwigger, a second round pick, and Damian Clara, but I mean, you got Elvis there in Columbus, so you know they don't need no actually that's not a best idea because Clara, I mean, he's not gonna be up in the NHL this year or next year.

SPEAKER_02

Your your mom says no.

SPEAKER_03

Okay, I'm I'm sorry, I as much as I would love to see McQueen be a duck for his whole career, but if you can get someone like Robert Thomas or Zach Rowensky on your team, you made that trade in a heartbeat with McQueen. I'm sorry. Like Zach Rowinski is a top three defenseman. Robert Thomas is a very good like top two center, like he's either number one or number two, and that's someone you'd love to see as your number two center. If he's your number two, then you're going you're going places.

SPEAKER_01

But at the same time, I mean I'm not gonna give up the farm to go after him. Like, I don't want to give up, you know, Zellwigger, or even if we gave up Mentukoff, like I don't want to give them everything to start off with. Like, I would start off with Zellwigger, like I said, I was originally thinking Damien Clara, because I mean, because that's obviously a top name prospect that showed off what he could do at the Olympics, even though he got shelled, but then that's when you throw in like a number two pick. Maybe maybe to sweeten that pot a little bit better, you give him a number one pick.

SPEAKER_03

I mean, actually, I didn't even think about Clara because that would be a good person to send to St. Louis with their goaltending problems. Yeah, you know, which would be bidding tank. No, I'm just saying, like, if you add another goalie in there for the future, he played all but one game.

SPEAKER_02

I still can't understand why Logan Thompson, who has much better stats than any of the guy, almost any of the goalkeepers that between USA and Canada, and he played one game.

SPEAKER_03

I will say this Bennington is a different goalie when he has uh Canadian jersey on. I don't know what it is, but he does play a lot better.

SPEAKER_01

Well, it's the same thing with uh with Bennington on that as well, though. He he did great during the Olympics, he did great during the four nations. Like you put him on that big level game, he turns into a different goaltender. Like what we saw in even the four nations and the Olympics with Bennington is what you see when St. Louis gets to the playoffs. The problem is St. Louis doesn't get to the playoffs and he doesn't want to play at that elite level all season long.

SPEAKER_02

I I I he doesn't want to play.

SPEAKER_01

No, I'm not saying he doesn't want to play, but he doesn't turn on to that next level until it turns into those big level games.

SPEAKER_02

I like when you said he does not want, I I think he probably wants to, he just doesn't.

SPEAKER_01

And I still don't it's still a choice, though. I mean, there yes, you do get into a point where you get into slums, but if he actually wanted to step up his game and be that elite goaltender that he can be in the big games, St. Louis would be a little bit more, you know, into some of the games that they're playing with instead of losing like you know, four to one, four to two, you know. Yeah, well, I was closer. agree with you I I totally agree that I mean he seems to turn it on when it's involving the country instead of just his team but yeah I mean even Hullabuck look at it I mean his stats weren't that great this year hasn't been and he he stepped it up yeah he stepped it up big but but but you know the women's goalies made everybody else look sad they only gave up two goals the whole tournament she faced 99 shots and gave up two goals like you couldn't just give her one more shot just make it an even 100 yeah um uh I I'd be honest with you I I really don't know if any of those trades the other teams would take and I all right so you know and I I I sort of I agree with your mom why do that now when you could possibly do it in the offseason and it doesn't change your chemistry because you can get a new chemistry through camp and you know the preseason games and and pick up somebody like one of those players possibly okay now here's the thing I I get about disrupting chemistry but I mean let's let's I'm gonna be straight up honest the ducks aren't winning the Stanley Cup this year unless something magically happens um but why not add a superstar like Orensky Thomas or Kairu to the team now they see how how they play with 20 games left in postseason see how they play and you're like okay now you give them more time to play with each other than just trying to jam them into an off season where it's different at least you can get a a visual of what's going on well and see if they gel right away and especially like even if you want to talk about chemistry I mean if I if we were gonna pull in Robertson from Dallas I mean just to change up the chemistry to hopefully get a better environment I mean hell I would trade I would go mittavish uh Zellwigger in a second round to get you know now the chemistry now you're talking that that is the first trade I would even think about that you guys have mentioned you guys are you guys were robbing the other team with those other okay things you you were actually giving them a a a much better player to start with now I could tell you if I was you guys Werzinski would be the first one I'd take no I would definitely I would get him over it even Robertson Robertson would be the next I don't believe I don't think Thomas or Kairu are in even in some of with a top other centers in in the league I mean they're good they're really good they probably help your team but I I think Rusinski or Robertson wow that that elevates the talent quite a bit um but they have an idea for I have an idea for Robertson you trade Granlin a first and Zellweger for Robertson as one I'd rather give up mctavish I mean I mean look at mctavish now here's the thing some days some days he's doing great some days he's not but his attitude you know brings down the the play on the ice like I would I would get rid of mctavish for a chemistry over trying to give him a much better talent on the trade roster I mean yes he is a great talent but his his attitude on the ice is why I want mctavish gone like I mean if if he can actually play and you know do what he does instead of throwing fits you know every three or four games get rid of him let's get someone else in there try to get better chemistry going so so you guys are you guys are talking about your team I'm sitting here with another team and I totally agree with Adam I think metavish he's young so now there's a future to a much longer future than granland granl's an older player and you didn't let me just you didn't you didn't let me like tell you why I made the trade that asked for that okay one tell us doubt Dallas want Dallas wanted to re-sign Granland they just didn't have the money think about all the Finnish players that are playing in Dallas ranton Hiskon Londell you got a whole a whole stack of Finnish players over there and I know grandlin wanted to go back there and Dallas wanted him back so I think yeah but and he he fit there no he does he absolutely does but he also came to Anaheim and turned around his game like he's yeah he's not only turned around his game in Anaheim but he's turned around Anaheim as well he's earned his spot in my opinion better than uh McTavish has and McTavish was drafted by us he's brought up into the system he should be all in as it is now but like McTavish is only all in maybe once twice a week you know no you need to be in all in bought in all the time every game and not just when you pick and choose that's why I would rather to uh send mctavish over to Dallas instead of sending Grantlin back.

SPEAKER_02

Well I I just think I just think a younger player that really hasn't reached their their peak yet that could be there for a long time would be better than an older player they already know who he played well there but he has definitely played better in Anaheim than he did in Dallas last year.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah I mean if if Granlin goes back to Dallas it's gonna be a sentimental trade like obviously if we give up Granlin they're gonna expect us to give up McQueen as well where at least with we try to go with a younger core and we give them say uh uh McTavish and you know say Selwiger it they both got they have a a younger future than Robertson does and instead of you giving them grandlin which is on the the downhill of his career but yeah if if we tried to make that trade for Robertson in Dallas like and we give him back Granlin we're gonna have to give up you know McQueen and I think that's a minimum. Even with the McTavish and Zellwiger I think you're gonna have to give at least a second or third round pick to honestly just to get the trade done I would give up McTavish I would give up either Zellwigger I'd prefer to keep you know Minchuk Minchukov but I would give up either Minti or Zeli. And then honestly I would throw out a number one draft pick just to make sure it happens okay now you're talking now now now you guys are being now you guys are being real but that's just me trying to get rid of but that's just me trying to get rid of McTavish well okay so now would you same trade for Robert Thomas or Cairou no like so say Robertson doesn't want to leave Dallas okay I would give up McTavish and Zellwigger and then at that point probably a third round maybe a fourth round no I wouldn't even throw Clara in the right now would you do McTavish Clara in a second for Thomas probably a third because Thomas is so so not clara I mean I would I could do the clara in with that trade but with Clara being a top level prospect McTavish having the ability to step his game up I wouldn't give him anything higher than the third round yeah but we have breaking news for the kings right now dad uh forward andrew underwent successful surgery to repair a torn meniscus and has been placed on iR he is listed as week to week and defenseman Angus booth has been recalled from the rain oh we're gonna bring up a young guy I like it how are you week to week on a meniscus surgery on a torn meniscus I know you're thinking that's from the king it's it's from the LA Kings Twitter so it's their what you have to realize week to week means it's probably gonna be a minimum of three to four weeks probably more like six he'll be back like beginning of April if he's lucky I'm just saying you know if he is there have been people who have come back pretty quick from a meniscus surgery um and others that don't so it's all speculative right there.

SPEAKER_03

So it with this do you I mean there's only one player you can really the kings I feel like can really trade away right now to maybe get anything back right now is Cory Perry.

SPEAKER_02

He's the only one that's on an expiring deal now unless you trade Kobitar not I you know what they're they're not gonna do that he's gonna get a statue they're not gonna do that they're not gonna trade dowdy either they're gonna play out their careers you know they're the only way they're the only way they're leaving is if they force their way out and that could happen. I could see perry I don't have a problem trading Corey Perry.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah I mean I could see I could see someone picking him up what I can say is are are we even gonna be able to sign him if we could get something for him that's decent I mean yeah you know maybe a a middle middle six maybe gonna be a probably a third line player maybe but I can't third or fourth liner yeah um what do you I mean there they need they need a lot more than that well because I mean outside of injuries where's he at right now is he second or third line um uh with the kings he's probably first line because everybody else sucks no he it's it was Panair and Kempe and LaFerrier Copitar Byfield I think it I thought it was Kuzmenko but now he's out um I don't know who played with him maybe Armia um he's playing probably third or fourth lane but he plays on the power play I mean because he's he's good in front of the net and he pisses people off I mean he's been pissing people off since what 2006 when did he get drafted that too I meant in the NHL but all right so Adam you wanted to come on and talk Olympics I was just bragging about our boys uh yeah you know no I mean I was just I wanted to kind of be a part of that like it was obviously me being a veteran you know it means a lot to me the to see the US hockey team especially since I play hockey as well and I mean I I think that game added probably 20 years of stress onto my heart so we'll see how well that goes but yeah I mean it was hear what I said earlier I I when I was watching the game I was I was like this like like this I I thought I was gonna end up looking looking like my dad by the end of the game.

SPEAKER_03

Well I was on the edge of my recliner I I don't think I've ever pulled my hair like so much watching the game yeah I definitely had a lot of choice words during that game that we can't repeat on this podcast but I had to be very quiet because my wife was still asleep and if I would have woke her up I wouldn't be here I was lucky mine made me wake her up to watch the game but she she didn't come in until the second period so I had to be quiet for the first period yeah I I was I I set my alarm I woke up at five and I was I just walked in the office and just I closed the door it's a benefit of me working overnights I was already awake yeah but yeah I'm no I'm normally up at five o'clock on work days anyway so it's not unusual it's not too crazy for you but no I mean it was go ahead go ahead Adam no you go ahead I was just gonna say it was it was a great Olympics um they had a lot of really good games I mean who really thought slovakia would have done what they did I mean they're they had a chance to almost take out Canada and even Czechia but obviously Czechia had the biggest chance because of Dostal you know back there in net and but overall I mean I think bringing the NHL players back to the the Olympics was great for it.

SPEAKER_01

Not bad for Czechy having six guys on the ice that helped I mean it really didn't if you look at it the play was developed before you know it's not like all six players were in the offensive zone you know working the puck no okay it's not I got a question for you guys now there's six players on the ice and everything during that goal do you know how the plusminus works for for that no i don't if if there's a mistake on the the ice where they uh you had the six players on the ice obviously for the goal uh just give it to everybody i mean you can't really do you i mean you can't really penalize they so are you talking on it are you talking on the both sides so do all six players get a plus one if they score a goal so i mean so here's you know the answer so give it to us i do know that so here's the answer the last person on does not get a plus so the like the sixth guy that came on or or the last guy he's the only one that doesn't get a plus on the goal yeah i can see that that's that that was the official ruling i think it was jeff marriage that's one thing i love about listening to jeff merrick show is just because he always uh thinks about the like what if they did this what if they did that and then he kind of knows the rules and i do like his like out of the out of the box thinking that he does and it really helps yeah i i've i've missed that on 32 thoughts i mean not that the other guy doesn't do a good job was it kyle i i think he does a good job with uh elliot on that but yeah elliot and jeff were just incredible peanut butter and jelly yeah yeah i know but i i do like listening to um jeff the jeff merck show the the sheet and everything it it's i just like the way i just like his out of the box thinking it it really like it just really gets you thinking about other things in the game too but um what what else did you want to go over about the the game well it was destiny by the way guys destiny i can believe it i mean well you think about it i mean it was 46 years to the day that you know the miracle on ice happened and yeah honestly as soon as i saw the teams warming up and i saw canada in red and the usa in white and i said oh here we go again i thought the exact same thing i was like oh the i i was like i was gonna say the miracle 2.0 in progress well i mean it was that's what i was thinking it was a perfect setting too because canada was the bigger batter team kind of like you know the soviets were but yeah it's like you had red jerseys you know for the canada and you know soviet union you had you know the us and their white jerseys plus it was the throwback that you know to look like the miracle on ice you know jerseys yeah it it was all kind of aligned for the you know in there for us to get it so how how do you do you guys actually know who USA played in 1980 for the gold medal game for what yeah finland was it sweden or finland it was it was finland they were no they they they were and they were down and then just dominated at the third period and won well it was just like their entire tournament they kept coming back from behind you know in 80 it seems like I don't even know if there was a game they weren't behind in 1980 you know you know what's funny is Cody and I were talking about when uh in the semis and I told him I'm glad we're not playing Finland I I'd rather play Slovakia than Finland anyway Finland I mean what what are they they won a game 11 to nothing they beat Sweden yeah they dominated Sweden well they beat they dominated Sweden they beat Italy 11 nothing okay let's just let's not I don't care 11 nothing USA didn't beat them 11 nothing because USA didn't play Italy oh oh that was of the women's wasn't it yeah yeah okay um now and also we also had a third generational or third generation gold medalist for USA hockey that was i i thought that was great yeah his grandfather in 60 his uncle in 80 and then here he is so well what was the the meme going around Cody that his son has to win it in 2046 or something like that yeah that that's what it was yeah yeah it's probably six that's 20 years away hopefully hopefully his son makes the NHL how old is his son does he have one yet his son's very young I want to say his son is three three or four two two or three two or three in his early twenties yeah yeah but I mean even though I said I was gonna say I think the the best part of at least that gold medal game I mean it was finally actually seeing Connor Hellibuck step up I mean that that game should have been far worse if I mean hella buck didn't show up and I'll I'll go ahead and uh say the little controversial part of uh I think we had you know the spirit of Goudreau out there you know pushing our and you know just knocking a couple of those away to help us you know because I mean how especially that Nathan McKinnon wide open net one. How many times do you see McKinnon Johnny stick is deflect Johnny and spirit deflected it away but yeah I mean everything just seemed to align to you know make it work out I mean Connor Hellibuck stood on his head and I mean I think he had not even just in the Olympics in the NHL you know the the save of the decade for now because I mean especially you know for that save that he made it definitely won in the game it definitely helped him win that game when you look at a play like that in the microseconds it all happens everything has to go right for him to make that save oh yeah everything has to be right because all Taze had to do is even just push it into the net and it would have gone under his stick but the fact that Taze you know got elevation on that puck throws it right into hella buck's stick and you know just gets the right angle to squeak you know behind him and you know away from the net yeah everything had to align to make that save perfect and it definitely it did for us. What a great picture that is too like so so you have to think about it do you think uh Taves wakes up screaming oh no I missed it again how did she save that I think McKinnon does uh has nightmares more than uh Taze does I mean at least Taze has the excuse that you know hellabuck got the stick on it like it it wasn't like McKinnon where he just fanned on a wide open shot um you know happens to the best of them unfortunately yeah happens to the worst of us too this this one's my favorite Adam that's a new one I haven't seen that one yet I like that one you know they got he got challenged about and he did touch the stone a second time which is illegal in the Olympics yeah he you know he had words like you were talking about earlier Adam when you first came on i i expect that I mean it was uh yeah very much explicit uh you know cussing he was cussing up a storm I mean but he did it just take it like a man I expect that attitude from the Americans I didn't expect it from the Canadians I mean he should have taken it like a man and just admitted it I mean they they didn't do anything about it anyways yeah yeah nothing changed from it I don't know do they not have video review and curling i mean i love to watch curling that is the strategy that happens in there it's incredible i'm i watched so much of it at this olympics i can i can wait to watch it for four years seemed like every time i turned on my tv there was curling going on i but i i just i i just find it interesting i i didn't even think i'd like it and then the last two two or three olympics totally got into watching it i it's one of my favorites like watching the hockey you know so well because uh the funny thing is too it's like you especially like with us being a hockey podcast like and me being a hockey player like we're set at a a certain level of how everything should be we want the flattest ice possible you know we want everything to be a nice smooth surface but if you've ever seen like a a curling rink it's the only way I can really describe it is it's it's almost like a miniature pellet Bebles that like are all over the ice, kind of like uh um like stucco on a wall, and what the broom is doing is you know, the broom kind of smooths that out so that way they can manipulate the way it goes. So it's it's weird to think that they're playing on you know the roughest surface they can, where hockey wants the smoothest, you know, surface we can get.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, it's just the strategy that's used. I there was like two or three times where the one team was dominating, and then the other team comes in and just wiped everything out, like four or five different um stones out of the way, and then they end up winning the what the end.

SPEAKER_01

I guess this is what yeah, they call it an they call it an end.

SPEAKER_02

I and I mean I there was one time uh USA was getting totally dominated. Uh the final girl made this play, boom, boom. Our stone gets closer, we get a point. They had four points if she would have missed, yeah. And she took out all of those stones, ours was closest, we got a point. I mean, that's a that's a big difference, yeah. And when you miss, boy, does it hurt?

SPEAKER_01

It it's funny to think that such a slow sport was so intense.

SPEAKER_02

It was very intense, and I I never thought I I remember as a kid, I I never or not as a kid because I don't think they did it when I was a kid, but you know, the first couple Olympics when it was on, I go curling. What the hell's that?

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, so I know it was um the former Rams quarterback Mark Bulger started his own like little like NFL retired player like team. Forgot who curling on it, but I yeah, his own curling team. Um, but we do have a couple questions, um, more duck, there are ducks questions. Um, this one he submitted last week, but we were already done with the podcast. Um, he put why is Strome still on the team? And honestly, like, especially after last night, I forgot to mention Troy Terry did not play last night. He was uh he had like an upper body injury, so the ducks played 11-7 with Ian Moore playing forward when Ryan Strome is available. So I don't know what Strome did with Coach Q or whatnot, but uh this is Strome a duck by the end of the year or starting next year.

SPEAKER_02

Trade deadline Fogo for Strome. Does it hurt either team? I don't think so. You think about it. I mean, Fogo finally played. He's been he's been benched a while.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, he hasn't been. We got Harkins, Johnston, and Washi playing over Strome. And Ian Moore was playing forward, and Strome is still up being healthy strapped, uh healthy scratched. So I don't I I don't know why like I I just have a feeling he's gonna be traded this deadline, just and maybe just get more of a deaf forward because if you're not gonna play him when he's fully healthy and you lose Terry and you go 11-7, there's something up with that.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, he could be you know just slumping worse than usual, and Q is sitting him out, uh either let him work on a good practice, or or at the same time, they could just be keeping him healthy for the trade deadline to get him out of here.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, like just the thing that has me like baffled is like he had I don't think he's played bad. Like he's uh I feel like he's actually played better this year than years past. He's he may not not be getting the points, but he's making better plays when on the ice this year than he has in years past.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, but I mean even though even though Coach Q will let the boys play and figure out their own mistakes, I mean the the points are still a factor. Like if you're you can go out there and you know take 40 shots a game, but if none of them go in for you know two weeks, what's the point of putting you out there?

SPEAKER_03

I mean, Harkins isn't putting up points and stuff like that. But I know I comparing Harkins and Strome is stupid, but like Harkins is playing more. I but I like Harkins' game, so I'm not gonna complain about him getting more time, but I I because I do like what Harkins brings on the fourth line and stuff like that. But I feel like if you put Strome in there, he could probably do the exact same thing because he does play that same similar style, then yeah, but Harkins Harkins has actually proved himself in the grit of um working what I just saw.

SPEAKER_02

I didn't see this comment. I'm as pretty as a garden gnome. I know that I love that Adam. That was great.

SPEAKER_00

It was only 45 minutes ago, Gary. I know, but I didn't notice that one. I just started going, well, you guys are talking.

SPEAKER_02

I was looking, seeing if there's anything new, and then I saw that and I go, I missed that. That one I wish could have that one in there.

SPEAKER_01

Could he even put it up on the screen?

SPEAKER_02

I yeah, I might have turned my head. I did not notice that. Oh, that's that's awesome.

SPEAKER_01

Well, as I was saying, Harkins has proven his grit to be on that fourth line. He you know has the toughness to be on a checking line, you know, he grinds it out, he plays that, you know, he almost almost plays a excuse me, uh 200-foot game, like you know, most centers could play, where he'll get back, he'll back check, he'll get nitty-gritty in the corners and along the boards if he needs to. I just don't see that out of stroke.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, all right.

SPEAKER_01

Like question. Oh well, I was gonna say, like, Strome seems like he's just kind of lazy on the back check, like he doesn't if you're not in the offensive zone, he doesn't really care to make that effort to get back, yeah.

SPEAKER_03

So and then uh same similar question, just different player. Um, is what should the ducks do with Frank Vetrano? So Frank Vetrano's been on a personal leave because his brother passed a passed away this last week. I forgot to mention that's what I forgot to also put in the notes. I think he I think he had I want to say it was a brain cancer.

SPEAKER_01

So that's that's why he Frank Vetrano, he's he's healthy, but with something like that, I think we need to just kind of let it be.

SPEAKER_02

Um Frank Vetrano, I wouldn't be surprised if he's Cody, Cody, you are freezing, you're free freezing a couple times.

SPEAKER_01

You're turning robotic, yeah. As he freezes, as we tell him.

SPEAKER_02

You're hey, you're quit staring at me like that now.

SPEAKER_01

Uh um is he back?

SPEAKER_02

He well, he moved briefly. I go well, I've been I I was having issues where my my uh he's in slow motion.

SPEAKER_04

No, you're you're in slow motion.

SPEAKER_01

Well, that's funny. Your audio is great, but you're in slow motion. Is that better?

SPEAKER_03

Is this better?

SPEAKER_01

That's working.

SPEAKER_03

What's going on? Well, I was going slow, but I'm like, wait, is it me or is it all right?

SPEAKER_02

So so it's been it's been a really bad week. Thanks, guys, for making me laugh a lot today.

SPEAKER_03

Oh, yeah, this was a complete shit.

SPEAKER_02

I mean, it's just that that was awesome. I mean, that Adam, your comment. Uh I just loved it.

SPEAKER_03

I mean, mom telling me that I'm uh we'll look at all the good talent we have on the goals. I know I gotta do a goals report soon.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, we haven't really done anything in the HL here lately. Uh, maybe we'll put that on the uh card for next week because we're really approaching two hours right now. Yeah, so I mean, there were that those were all the questions we had, Cody.

SPEAKER_03

Um, well, yeah, it's what the ducks should do with Frank Vitrano. I I wouldn't be surprised if you know Strom and Vitrano are no longer ducks before next season.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, I mean Vitrano, honestly, there's a potential that he could be gone at the end of the season, but I mean, with the unfortunate event of him losing his brother, I think they're just gonna kind of let him be and work through his grief at the moment, and then worst case scenario, probably just move him out at the end of the year. You know, there there's no reason to make his life even worse now that you know, hey, unfortunately you just lost your brother, but also we need you to pack up your stuff and go to another team.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, yeah, that would that'd be a slap in the face, guys. Yeah, yeah. And I think the ducks are more classy than that.

SPEAKER_01

I would like to think so.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, I would like to think so too. Um, but uh I that's what I'm saying. I strom I could see being traded at the deadline, if not, then um for sure by net before the in the offseason. Frank Fitrano, I think, is more of an off-season trade. Yeah, yeah, definitely. But we got this if it is a in-season trade, I think Vetrano's gonna have a like what they call like the what Ryan O'Reilly has is like the phantom no trade clause kind of thing, where like they'll only trade him if he says yes, but in the offseason, like no, yeah, just you're going here no matter what, kind of thing.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, I could see that. I could see them ask him if he wants to go.

SPEAKER_02

Vetrano for Fogle. I'm trying to get rid of Fogle right now.

SPEAKER_01

I would rather choose Vetrano than Fogel.

SPEAKER_02

Uh one thing Fogel does have is he has that grit and that bat. I was gonna say something earlier. It's just like soccer, you have to win the 50-50 balls to be a good team. You have to back check and check in hockey. And if you don't do that, you're probably not gonna play for long unless you're like a guy like Ovechkin who scores 900 goals, you know, or or you you have all the assists in your offense makes up the difference. But then again, every team that has everybody doing that, usually they're winning playoff games, and you know, only one can win a Stanley Cup, but most of those Stanley Cup teams are. I mean, Florida was very good at checking, yeah. Yeah, when you have Ben Norshan Anger Chuck. Well, now we have two nicknames for Adam, you know, Captain Chaos and Adam the gnome. Bro, the gnome. We we need we need good nicknames like that. You come on, Adam, you get all the good nicknames.

SPEAKER_01

I'll stick with Captain Chaos. Yeah, I don't blame you on that one.

SPEAKER_02

That does fit you, but I just thought I'd throw the other one out for fun. You always would be Captain Chaos to me.

SPEAKER_03

So, anyways, uh um I have oh before we go, I want I do want to show this picture. So, Adam did make us shirts, so I'm gonna show the and this is what you did.

SPEAKER_02

You notice the hat?

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, I see you still wear the hat. So at the watch party, Adam brought the shirts as yeah as you can see. My dad got number 21 because that's his number. He has the royalty on it, and Adam was smart, and he did it in the fonts of the team. So you see his with the chaos number 32, and I'm quacked with the my because my number's 12.

SPEAKER_02

So and and I'm the only one wearing my my shirt today.

SPEAKER_01

I came in with the uh over-the-top American look to start with.

SPEAKER_02

Uh to have I don't have one. I mean, I need to I need to get uh that added to my repertoire because obviously I'm big USA. Big USA.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, Cody or Cody knows this one. Oh yeah. Hell yeah. Where is it? Hendrix have the uh yep, they even came with a patch on it.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, nice.

SPEAKER_01

The is that the Conway is that is that Conway? Yeah, of course it's Conway. Nice, but yeah, so you know, even though I came into my USA gear, I came into my USA ducks gear.

SPEAKER_04

That's all right, that's good.

SPEAKER_03

All right, so Adam, before we get out, you want us uh say anything about Patriots hockey? Or do you want to get Andrea on here to talk about Patriots hockey?

SPEAKER_01

Actually, I think she's on a phone call dealing with Patriots hockey right now, but um, right now, not at the moment. I probably might have something for you guys next week, though.

SPEAKER_03

Next week, so this is State Classy got announced. I saw yep.

SPEAKER_02

Adam, so you already know we're probably gonna be later in the day next week.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, that'll work out for me.

SPEAKER_02

I mean, I was late today, so I volunteered for the senior volleyball to officiate it like five months ago and forgot all about it until two weeks ago when I got reminded that I volunteered for it.

SPEAKER_01

But isn't that group too young for you too?

SPEAKER_02

No, same age.

SPEAKER_01

That's what you get for the garden comment.

SPEAKER_02

Believe it or not. I mean, I I think there are a few of them younger, but I get around a lot better than most of them.

SPEAKER_01

I was just getting you back for the garden gnome comment.

SPEAKER_02

I didn't make that comment. You did.

SPEAKER_01

You made the nickname.

SPEAKER_02

Oh no, it I just had to throw it out to make us laugh a little bit more. I don't know, maybe you had a good week. We both had rough weeks, and just laughing is healthy. I think laughing is healthy. So getting a good laugh, having you on. It was uh I'm glad you came on. I thought you weren't going to. I I was gonna oh, he's not gonna come on, it's disappointed because you always make it fun, yeah. You always do.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, I was saying you you and Kevin really always helped the chat a lot.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, we we appreciate you guys. Yeah, yeah, I don't even remember I don't totally agree with everything you say. It's it's all good stuff.

SPEAKER_01

Oh no, I was asleep last week. I uh it was uh I had a sinus infection and an ear infection, so I was kind of in and out sleeping last week, which is why I wasn't there. Oh no, and then of course today I just spazzed out on what day it was, and I was like, oh, the podcast is on.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, we'll we'll we'll give you a solid pass for last week because obviously you're not feeling good. You probably were losing sleep and you needed to sleep, yeah.

SPEAKER_03

So so um, so uh so next week if you have anything, you know, you can always just text it to me and I'll I'll I'll put on the podcast for you guys. I I have no problem doing that for you guys. Um, the state classy is what I want to say July 31st through August. Yeah, yeah, July 31st.

SPEAKER_02

Uh so what is the 31st? What day is that? It's a Friday. It's a Friday, Saturday, Sunday. So I'm gonna have to ask that Friday off.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, I should have no problem getting that day off.

SPEAKER_01

Um, you guys might be able to work a partial day if you wanted to, because I believe we don't start classy until like five in the evening. Oh, okay. So I mean you could go into work for like half a day and then where is it at? It's in Mira Mesa, it's off the 15 freeway. Um, it's kind of right before you get to uh towards um uh I know Miramark.

SPEAKER_02

Uh I I I know exactly where that's at. Um also want to if you didn't know Cody, uh I know it's your anniversary that day. Yeah, you're gonna come with us. You're gonna have fun at that. I we had so much fun at that that golf tournament. I mean, I was so nervous that it was gonna be weird, but I had so much fun.

SPEAKER_03

I'm more I'm more prepared for the mic situation this year. I I'm more prepared. I got wireless mics, especially since a certain someone royally smiled, does not know how to work a mic.

SPEAKER_01

I was gonna say, did you just get a mic stamp?

SPEAKER_03

No, I got why wireless one, so each person can have their own mic. So it's not my dad going, so what uh do are you which team do you support? And then he looks and asks him, and he saws the mic in in front of him instead of you're not making any points with the old man right now, kid. Hey, as long as I make points with mom, I'm safe.

SPEAKER_02

But but I was trying to say something. Uh your sister, brother-in-law, and niece and nephew are gonna be coming out sometime in July.

SPEAKER_03

Okay, now you tell me.

SPEAKER_02

Um, but if they all come, maybe we'll we'll have some fan support with family there. Yeah, that'll be fun. I'm gonna ask, I'm gonna ask for July 31st off. Anyways, I was gonna do it anyway. Because it is our anniversary.

SPEAKER_01

What's that on Friday? Friday, they we always start a little bit later.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, five o'clock. I don't get I don't get off till 7:30. I guess I could leave or leave early, but I'd have to leave to go down to San Diego. It's gonna take me an hour, maybe two hours to get down there at that time of day on a Friday.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, I mean obviously the Friday traffic, you'll have to leave a little bit earlier, but yeah.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, I'll I'm gonna probably just ask for the day. Is Friday the main day we need to go, or is or is Saturday, Sunday better? Um probably or do you want to get back to me on that?

SPEAKER_01

It it kind of varies. I mean, obviously, like a lot of people are there mingling, having a good time Friday night because you know, a lot of the same teams do this tournament every year because it's so much fun and we love it. So we usually kind of like reminisce and hang out and have you know fun times on Friday. Saturday is usually a full day of uh tournament play where you get a lot of the teams together, and that's where a lot of the chaos happens on Saturday, and then Sunday it's kind of a little bit of winding down because you're working into like getting into championships and stuff like that. But overall, I mean the entire weekend is always a blast, it's so much fun to be there for the entire thing. And I mean, if you guys want to focus on certain days, I would probably say um probably Saturday and Sunday, but you know, if you could be there for all three three days, that'd be awesome as well.

SPEAKER_02

Okay, well, you know, we are a hockey family. We are a hockey family.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, and the the State Classy Tournament, it's such a different atmosphere. It's it's more of a like a smaller tournament, so you get a lot of the same people that come back every year. Um, yeah, it's it's a lot of fun. Like you guys met Max at uh the golf tournament. Max has his team that's gonna be there, and you know, um, a lot of the Patriots that you uh got to meet at the golf tournament, they're gonna be there. We just won't be under the Patriots banner because we uh uh at one point the Patriots used to sponsor the tournament, so they didn't want to have a team in there as well. Plus, there was other issues that happened one year that I'm not allowed to mention, but I was not involved in that one. Um, but yeah, so we don't have any Patriots teams in the tournament, but Patriots are always there, and we have a lot of people.

SPEAKER_04

Are you playing representative?

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, I'm playing. I have my own team. Uh, my team name is actually Dim Bums. I took uh the Dodgers theme and made it into hockey.

SPEAKER_03

Oh, I've I I I I've seen those uniforms. I think you when you and I were discussing Jersey, uh, you saw the other. I remember that.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, I showed you that's where the the place I showed you all the jersey designs is where I got mine through.

SPEAKER_02

So yeah, we um so we ended up talking about Patriot hockey anyways.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, that's true. But our uh yeah, my my classy team, like we have uh it says dim bums across the chest, then it has the Dodger D for dim, but then it has the Brooklyn B for bums. So like I was kind of like you know, integrating the the new with the old, and uh the the only thing I I think I want to change is the the shell design that I used was Toronto shell design. Um I might try to get away from that and make a better uh better jersey design. Yeah, yeah, because we we still in in the three years that the dim bums have been a part of classy, we still haven't won a championship yet. So I think I need to get rid of Toronto.

SPEAKER_02

There you go.

SPEAKER_01

Well, well, you should have realized that before this the first year. Come on, Adam. I was trying to bring better vibes to that style of jersey, but it's obviously not working out.

SPEAKER_03

I could have told you that, but all right. Um, anything else, Adam, you want to add before we get out of here? Nope. Okay, well, uh dad, you uh you have anything?

SPEAKER_02

I'm good.

SPEAKER_03

All right, well, everyone, please don't forget to go follow Patriots Hockey on all social media. Um, and like I said, ask for those days off the July 31st through August 2nd. Go check out um the state classy tournament. We'll we'll have more information of where everything's located and everything. I'll put that in the on social media. I'm pretty sure Andrea or you will set send me something on Instagram and I could post it on there too. Um Um, and then uh everyone, please. If you're listening on the audio side, hit the download button. Don't forget to leave a rating review on Apple and Spotify. Uh, it would really help us out. Gets uh the podcast out there more people will see it. Um, also on you if you were watching on YouTube, hit hit the like button, hit the subscribe button if you haven't done so already. Um and yeah, and comment, tell us what you want the ducks to do, who they should trade for, what kind of trades would you do? Uh, I know it's a little too late to put it ahead, but for next week, but at least we can see what kind of mock trade you guys can come up with. Why are you laughing at them?

SPEAKER_01

Let us know how long you want to extend Hiller for as well.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, put that in the comments. Um, are you firing him or extending him, Kings fan?

SPEAKER_02

Have you have you seen Frankenstein ever, Adam?

SPEAKER_01

There's multiple variations, but yeah, I know the gist of it.

SPEAKER_02

Well, the the whole village is gonna be after Hiller.

SPEAKER_03

But all right, anyways, um, everyone please go follow us on all social media. Um, I know the Mighty Ducks Club has some watch parties coming up, so go follow the Mighty Ducks Club and everything will be posted on there. There's like three different watch parties in one week in March. So, and then uh just next week we will have a later uh start time for the live. So just remember that. Uh we'll let you know.

SPEAKER_02

It's probably gonna be it'd be in the afternoon, probably somewhere between two and five.

SPEAKER_03

Okay, I should be fine. I can do that.

SPEAKER_02

I mean, that's what I'm thinking. Last year I was done by two o'clock.

SPEAKER_03

Okay. So it's it's the one in Sun City, right?

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, so I'm I'm not far. Yeah, I'm not far from home. And um, you know, it's it's serving uh our seniors, and it's it's it's always fun. I always have a good time.

SPEAKER_03

So just remember uh dad, I'll let you start so me and Adam can finish strong on it.

SPEAKER_02

Uh go kings go.

SPEAKER_03

Let's go, ducks, and USA. USA next week. USA USA.

SPEAKER_00

USA.

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