The C.H.O.D.E.S. Podcast
Two cousins, Maria and Leslie, discussing wild personal experiences in relationships, current events, and just life. We are sharing our experiences for relatability and entertainment. There will be laughs with a lot of gasps and we will also get down to the very intimate and raw details of the dating world and life lessons at every turning point.
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The C.H.O.D.E.S. Podcast
Where do these stories even come from?
We start this episode celebrating tge Dodgers going to the World Series, experiencing some nostalgia from family get-togethers and fireworks that transport us back to the vibrant celebrations of Guatemala.
Have you ever felt that the Queen Mary has a ghostly charm? We do too! Join us as we humorously recount an eerie incident involving a mysteriously silenced microphone, hinting at supernatural mischief aboard this iconic venue. From playful ghosts to the unwritten rules of not inviting unknown spirits home, our conversation takes a whimsical turn. And when it comes to the rich tapestry of Latin American folklore, we're not just telling tales—we're telling you first hand experiences our relatives have experienced!
Supernatural legends have a way of sticking with you, and our exploration of chilling tales like La Llorona and Bloody Mary is no exception. Could mermaids and sirens have real-world counterparts? We ponder this and more, discussing how urban legends captivate and terrify us across generations. But don't worry, we lighten the mood with our go-to strategy to stop being scared: a good dose of animated entertainment. With shows like Family Guy and The Emperor's New Groove, we shake off the spookiness and share a laugh or two. So, sit back, relax, and join us for a mix of horror, humor, and heartwarming stories that promise to entertain and intrigue.
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Hi everyone. Welcome to Cousins Honestly, openly Discussing Everything Spicy. Welcome to the chodes. Oh wow, I was like, okay, the pigeon.
Speaker 2:Oh my God, I thought, because we were in the spooky month, you wanted like.
Speaker 1:Well, yeah Well, last time I tried to do that I didn't even realize.
Speaker 2:Well, because I was not aware. Girl, do you hear that? Not in sync.
Speaker 1:Sweet, sweet victory.
Speaker 2:Oh, look at her, mm-hmm. We did it. We're going to the world. Wait, wait. Was this the game that was going to take us to World Series?
Speaker 1:Yes, right, yeah, yeah, we're going to the World Series Bitches.
Speaker 2:Hell yeah, damn, it's going to be so good For those of you who don't know anything about baseball.
Speaker 1:I'm sorry, but for those of you that know, you know it's going to be the Yankees against the Dodgers.
Speaker 2:Oof, that's going to be such a good game.
Speaker 1:We're so proud of them. Yeah, it is going to be a good game.
Speaker 2:I was talking to one of your cousins, to our cousin, to my cousin. Yeah, our cousin. No, that's También, but no.
Speaker 1:Oh well, I want that update on that. But okay, oh honey, keep going.
Speaker 2:That is such a disappointing update. But no, I can't send you screenshots, but anyway, I was talking to our cousin from guatemala uh the one that came in may and he sent it to me this morning saying like, oh, the, the final is gonna be this. And I was like, oh my god, yes, like hopefully we win tonight, and he's like that would be such a good game. And I'm like hell, yeah, because you know he's he. I think he's a yankees fan, like he's not a dodgers fan I, our side is divided because you know what I have like.
Speaker 1:I have a cousins on my mom's side that it's like some dodgers and some yankees and of course my brother goes. Uh, I have my older brother who goes for the dodgers, my younger brother who goes for the Dodgers, my younger brother who goes for the Yankees. My dad is neutral. He doesn't even know what's going on with baseball, he thinks it's soccer. And then our uncle. Of course they're all Yankees on his side.
Speaker 2:Yeah, like we are divided and on my on my end I have no one that really cares Like. Obviously most of my friends and everything are Dodger fans, but I don't think my brother cares about baseball. My nephew definitely doesn't care about baseball, he's more like a soccer fan.
Speaker 1:Like my dad, Mm-hmm, they're all about like does it have to do with soccer? Then I don't know.
Speaker 2:Yeah, like my nephew, dude, dude, he can tell you the name of all the players of every team, their stats, everything. I'm like, dude, you should just go to school to be one of the fireworks for us. Happy new years, because we're finally recording on time. I know, girl hearing all the we're finally recording on time, I know.
Speaker 1:Girl. Hearing all the fireworks makes me feel like I'm home. I know I was like. It sounds like Guatemala. I'm like happy New Year's. Yay For our Guatemalans. This is what it sounds like for New Year's.
Speaker 2:If you know For those in LA.
Speaker 1:You know that it's victory For everyone else.
Speaker 2:It sounds like the fourth of july and they're like isn't that illegal? Aren't fireworks illegal? I love when people like hear fireworks around my house and they're like, oh my god, don't they get a ticket. I'm like they don't give a fuck, they go to Vegas to get illegal fireworks. What are you talking about?
Speaker 1:And we're celebrating, so what?
Speaker 2:Yeah, but anyway, babe, how have you been?
Speaker 1:I've been good. I've been in my new position at work and I like it. Very different, very different, but it's a different kind of stress, but I'm still happy that I made the change and now I'm just getting used to working later on in the day, but it's still good and I'm getting my cute little hours. I was getting the weekends off, so I was happy, but then, as fate would have it, I'm not doing that anymore. But it's okay. I still love it.
Speaker 2:That's good. Yeah, I was going to say congratulations are in order. I'm very happy that you made the change too and that you're happy with it, because change is hard, as we all know. But hey, you, you're doing it. So what does Elle Woods say? Like the little the? Oh my gosh, I forgot, I had it in my head right now, you know, when Elle Woods goes to the Capitol and she has her little pink cup and they write something nice. Anyway, I fucked that up, but congratulations, baby.
Speaker 1:Thank you. I was like I'm over here scratching my head like what? Which one? The one where she's? I was like Ben and Snap, ben and Snap.
Speaker 2:No, it's not the Ben and Snap. Of course that's the one you would think of. No, it's when she's trying to say Bruiser's mom.
Speaker 1:Oh no, I don't know.
Speaker 2:Anyway, I'm sure somebody will know. Let us know in the comments if you know what the fuck I'm talking about. That way we'll know if you listen or not.
Speaker 1:That way we'll know if you listen or not. Right, but it was. I like it. It's a good change.
Speaker 2:That's good. That's good. I'm happy for you, thank you. I got to tell you that I went to Horror Nights on Friday and I know we recommended it in the beginning of the month. But, quite frankly, like I'm not going to say I didn't get scared because there's several videos proving otherwise. But it's not how it's been other years. Like I think it's getting lamer and, like I was telling you before we started recording, like people are now taking their children, which for what? For fucking what you know. Like I don't know if that's the reason that it's less scary. You have to specify like it's.
Speaker 1:It's one thing to take your kids, but to take infants, oh yeah, like fresh womb.
Speaker 2:Well, there was a lot of kids like 10, 9 years old. Like there was a bunch of kids in line Like they were already falling asleep. Girl, you know how when you're tired and you're like, you're trying to like stand on one foot and then on the other and stuff like that. Like that's how they were. I'm like why do you bring children this age to the mazes, like yeah, it's cool, like they probably like it and stuff, but also to bring babies like like I saw a bunch of women just sitting outside and stroll with the strollers. I'm like why, why do you come? But what do you come for then? What was the point?
Speaker 2:oh, that's on them yeah, that is on them, but like they're taking up space at the parks, fucking stay home taking tickets that could have been to people who really wanted to go yeah to each their own yeah, so I don't know if, like now that I don't recall that there was ever children that age at the event. Do you remember?
Speaker 1:No, honestly, I would say like teens, like 15, 16, that kind, but not like below that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, no, I don't know, but I saw a lot of kids dude and I don't know, like I said, if that's the reason that the mazes are less scary, or maybe I'm just desensitized to it now. And I don't know, like I said, if that's the reason that the mazes are less scary, or maybe I'm just desensitized to it now, I don't know. But yeah, I don't recommend it this year. I've heard that the Queen Mary one is scarier than anything else.
Speaker 1:Oh, hell yeah.
Speaker 2:Mm-hmm. So yeah, that's the Queen Mary should just sponsor us at this point. I know, Since we started the podcast we've been talking about it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, all we do is recommend freaking Queen Mary, Damn you ship recommend us For wedding. For ghost stories, for scary events, anniversaries for movie nights, whatever we shouted you out, we're calling you out, queen.
Speaker 2:Mary, sponsor us, I sponsor us. I'm gonna use this literally.
Speaker 1:That's where we started.
Speaker 2:Yeah, for real. I'm gonna use this as the little clip that I post and people, you guys are gonna have to make it viral right hashtag queen mary sponsor us for real. It's the one place that we mentioned without care.
Speaker 1:I know Everywhere else. We're like I don't want to hear from you, I don't want you to sponsor me, I don't want to have anything to do with you. Yeah, I was going to do a little jingle but I was like that's compromised, that's so much, that's really so much.
Speaker 2:Miravos, do you want to tell us what happened with your mic before we started recording, since this is like still, oh my gosh.
Speaker 1:Okay. So we were like talking, because we tend to like do like a little 10 minute little warm up, talking to make sure our mics are working, that our computers are working, all that good stuff, because we've been technologically challenged. And I was talking to my cousin here and everything was fine. Then all of a sudden it went mute. Like I could hear her, but I was talking to her, I was talking to her and she couldn't hear me. So I was like what's going on?
Speaker 1:Like, and I'm checking on the computer, like did I press something, did I click something? And I look at my mic, it turned off when it was originally on, like the light was on and everything which the light was still on, but then it was off. So it was weird, because my mic has a switch. It's not a button, it's a switch, so you have to literally push the switch down to like turn it off. And I didn't even touch it, because once we position the stuff, any little movement can fuck it up yeah, we don't touch anything anymore yeah, the ghost is already here taunting.
Speaker 1:She was like and then my mom, and then my mom the door opened like, and she's like what's the wind? Our front door, guys, our front door open like all. She's like oh, come in. I was like this lady, what did we say? You don't welcome that shit. She's like it oh, come in. I was like this lady, what did we say? You don't welcome that shit. She's like it was the wind and I was like it was not the wind. Girl, if it was the wind, it would have opened a long time ago. I never heard her say it wasn't closure. I'm like no girl, that was something else. That's the part of the movie where you're like what are you doing? It didn't help that I was watching like all these 2020 cases of like unsolved murders and murders that were solved and I'm like what the fuck? And you leave your door open. Still the fuck. No, the front door was closed yeah, but like it was closed.
Speaker 2:It opened on its own and it wasn't locked.
Speaker 1:It wasn't locked so my house has like a metal screen door kind of thing, and then it has the front wooden door. Well, the metal one is always locked right, and then the wooden one is the one that opened, but it was not locked, but it was closed. So it's like she's saying the wind. Well, if it was the wind, the metal one would have like made some kind of noise too.
Speaker 2:You know, Damn that would have been even scarier too, like yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, no, or you would have heard it like because, like, even when my cat like jumps on the door, you hear like the metal like bouncing. And if it was the wind, if the wind was that strong, I don't know, but it was the wind if the wind was that strong, I don't know, but it was weird.
Speaker 2:Yeah Well, I would say do not welcome anything into your houses. Y'all Just say like get the fuck out of here, or like we don't allow visitors or something, because you're not supposed to ever say come in out loud to like a weird entity.
Speaker 1:No soliciting, no loitering. My, we do have a sign that says no loitering outside you do, uh, yeah oh my god uh, that's funny.
Speaker 2:Now the ghosts know I am sorry, I also my bad dude. I'm not sleepy right now, but I'm just like really tired because I went to the Horror Nights on Friday.
Speaker 1:She's been social y'all. She went Friday night to Horror Nights and then last night to a Halloween party. Mm-hmm yeah. Which was 1 am and they were still on a good one.
Speaker 2:We left the party like at 2ish, and that's early last year.
Speaker 2:We left later you left like at 5am girl no, tampoco but, yesterday there was a point in time where, like the people I went with, they just went to fucking sit inside and I was like if I wanted to sit I would have stayed home. So I was just dancing with some like randoms at the party, but it was really really fun. Every year my friend throws like I, my mom says like I feel like he should charge for that party, but he doesn't. All you have to do is bring your own alcohol, like he has food. He hires the dj, like he, like he goes all out dude. But um, I love going, it's really fun, but I I feel really tired because I walked like 20 some thousand steps, almost 30 000 on friday and then yesterday, pues, I was dancing all night. So but the costumes came out really cute, I really liked mine, I had fun.
Speaker 2:yeah, I know it was cute she was a pirate y'all, yo ho yo ho, yo ho the ho ho, and listen to me the ho and me is sleeping, so no, the ho in you is dormant right now, that's yeah, it'll come out eventually once I figure out how to deal with with man's bullshit, like never huh I know I was like girl, I was giving you the side eye right now, anyways.
Speaker 1:So today's featured stories come to you.
Speaker 2:Come to you straight from the motherland I was gonna say come to you by the queen mary, sponsors, no, but yeah fuck the queen mary, they're not helping us out right now bro, like do you? I feel like tonight is like the noisiest fucking night around my house. You hear the train now? Yeah, I do. Hey, it adds to the spookiness. I know it's setting off the mood, because what I'm going to talk about right now is one of the legends of the legendaries. No, yeah.
Speaker 1:It's a legendary legend. The legends of the legendary.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's a. It's a legendary, legendary, yeah, of the legendary. What the my latin, oh, so we're gonna talk about like mythical creatures, lore, and I guess like legends. Right, that's what we said just like all.
Speaker 1:What is it? All camps, campground.
Speaker 2:Oh, like, yeah, yeah, yeah, like urban myths. Esa mierda, that's what I was trying to say.
Speaker 1:Urban myths. She's becoming illiterate. You know the job requires her to speak professionally and use big words that she doesn't even know what it means.
Speaker 2:It's because I use my brain from Monday through Friday, girl, don't make me use it on the weekends.
Speaker 1:No girl, I'm talking to myself, I'm talking about myself Okay.
Speaker 2:Well, anyway, nothing we didn't already know about ourselves. But yeah, I'm going to tell you the story of El Cadejo. So if you go to Horror Nights, they actually do have a maze called Monsters of Latin America. They have El Cadejo.
Speaker 1:He was in there.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he was, oh shit, también El Cucuy, también el cucuy, El cucuy, which that's a Mexican legend and I don't really know exactly what it is it's? Like the boogeyman.
Speaker 1:No.
Speaker 2:I don't know. I've heard people say like te va a llevar el cucuy. You know, like the cucuy is going to take you to children.
Speaker 1:Yeah, the boogeyman.
Speaker 2:Mm-hmm. Okay, well, I'll post a picture of El Cucuy, like how they portrayed it, and I was like, ooh, it's ugly. But okay, we're talking about El Cadejo. So, el Cadejo, it is said that there are two. There is one like it's the shape of a dog, but like they're supposed to be like from hell or something like that.
Speaker 1:Oh, the hell dogs.
Speaker 2:Uh-huh, so one is black and the other one is white. So the legend says that, if you like, I remember don chico, you remember don chico it was one of grandma's sneaky links.
Speaker 1:No, just kidding that's, that's your cousin's grandpa girl relax I know.
Speaker 2:But yeah, it was grandma's third husband and he would say that when he was walking down the train tracks that one time he was really drunk and he saw the dog following him and then like he was just like stay you know, like like get away.
Speaker 2:But like it is said that the kadejo, the black one, takes care of the drunk people who walk at night, but specifically men, and so the drunk men, the drunk men, and so it walks with them all the way to their houses and like I don't know, like it's such a good guardian dog because it waits for you to go inside your house.
Speaker 2:And then they say that the white one takes care of women and children, and so, but they also say that even though, like the black one protects the drunk man, it is not good, it's an evil like thing, right, and the white one is a benign dog. So you have to be wary of both, because if the white one comes out to a man is gonna attack it, and if the black one comes out to a woman is gonna attack it or a child. So it's kind of like like backwards, you know, and they say that if the cadejo shows up to the same man several times, that it's kind of like all right, dude, like I fucking walked you already like a couple times and you're still not understanding, like I'm gonna take your soul now.
Speaker 1:So it's kind of like a watchdog, and after several like a warning, right, yeah, like a warning to the men. Yeah, yeah, I protect you, but it's like your warning, like this is your warning, this is your one shot do it again. We'll find out. I heard of that and you know what. I think my dad told me that too about Son Chico, like he's the one that saw it.
Speaker 2:But I think he also said that I don't know if he said that his dad too of Grandpa Rodrigo oh yeah, most likely like Grandpa Rodrigo yeah, all the drunk men yeah, cause Grandpa Rodrigo is always like grandma, tells stories about him, like getting home, like fucking crawling so I believe it it that everyone's in our family it is.
Speaker 1:I know I had to get it from someone like come on, there's no way that it's me of our bloodline legacy. And then there's another, but that that's. That's her, the hell dogs. And then there's one, another one that follows the drunk men huh or just men in general la cibonava.
Speaker 2:Okay, so la cibonava, I don't know like. I remember seeing a like a portrayal of how she supposedly looks like, and that one also is like a like a creepy story. I think grandma says that that's the one. That's the one that grandma says that abuelo rodrigo saw. So they were in like oh yeah, yeah, they were like in chiquimula or something, and the legend goes that she was a beautiful woman, you know, like like beautiful body and stuff, and so very attractive.
Speaker 2:That's how like men would, but they couldn't see her face. So it was like it was luring them in like hey, you know, like with the hands and stuff.
Speaker 1:Long black hair. Long black hair.
Speaker 2:She has a veil over her face too and like imagine, like super nice body and stuff, and so, because men are drunk, they're like, hey, I'm gonna get some, and they follow her. But then what happens to them is that they end up dead, because she usually lures them to like a, like a ravine, or like a, a what do you say? A barranco? Like a, yeah, like a cliff.
Speaker 1:Like a cliff, yeah.
Speaker 2:And so once they get to the cliff and you know the men think that they're going to do something she unveils her face and she has like evil red eyes and like the face of a horse type of thing, and like she starts laughing in their face and so like, because they try to like run away, they get scared or whatever, they end up falling to their death my dad said that he's seen her stop yeah yeah, that don ch at that time was the stepdad.
Speaker 1:For some reason they were in trouble and well he was and he didn't want to go in the house. So he slept in the car and he got home. Yeah, that was it. He didn't want to go in because he got home late, he didn't want to get caught. So, yeah, he said that something was following him and he was just like, okay, well, he started getting scared because he thought it was one of the dogs. And then, like, he turned and he saw a lady and he was like, oh shit, because he's already scared of, you know, la Cibandaba.
Speaker 1:So, he went into the car and he was just like I'm just gonna sleep here, I'm gonna sleep in the car, I'm not gonna see anything. And he heard tapping on the window he looked and it was a horse, face shut up, and then he, yeah. So then he was just like, like you know, like closing his eyes, like no, no, no, what I'm seeing is not true, what I'm seeing is not true. He heard the tapping on the window again. He didn't want to look and it was his brother, or uncle yeah and he was like what the hell he's like?
Speaker 1:I just saw something and he told him about it, but he said that wasn't the first time. He said that another time that he was also out late, you know so he don't learn he don't learn.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so grandma, you know how grandma is very strict. And he had him and his cousin, uh louise, and they were like, well, how do we get to the house without getting caught? Like we have to get there on time because you know they're gonna kill us if we don't get there on time. And he said that's the only way to get to the house was taking the shortcut, yeah, to go through the little um like the ditch right and crossing the little like there was like a little river right yeah, so, yeah.
Speaker 1:So he was like that's the only way to get to the house on time and so he said, okay, but like we're not stopping, like we got to just run so that they were running. And while they were running because they're trying to make time right he lost his cousin and he was like where the hell did he go? Where the hell did he go? He sees him going towards a girl that was bathing, dark, wet hair, and he was like, oh shit. And then he told he he grabbed him and he was like don't go, don't go after it, don't, it's not, it's not what you see, you don't see anything. And they kept running. He's like if I wouldn't have gotten him, he would have, he would have gotten taken for, for sure, for sure, it was that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, yeah, that is the Because I guess there's like a cemetery near there too.
Speaker 2:Yeah, there is a couple by the house In that place. I don't know if you've ever been to where they're talking about. I've crossed that. Is it like La Justo? Yeah, it's like, yeah, that's to go to. So if you go towards the back of the church, there is like a road, a cliff.
Speaker 1:Yeah, there's a cliff also I remember because remember there was a block party, the New Year's block party. I remember because remember that's where we would go pee yeah. By the cliff and I was like, oh my God. I was so scared because I was like we were so drunk and it's like we're like swaying and I'm over here popping a squat and I'm like, oh my God, if I fall, I'm going to die.
Speaker 2:So it's like hold on for dear life.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we were always risking lives.
Speaker 2:If we were going to die, it would have happened already, because why? Why were we doing it? But anyway, you guys, this is unreal.
Speaker 1:It's like it's a sharp cliff, cliff, like you guys don't understand, like it goes to nothing, but fucking nothing.
Speaker 2:like your death, yeah, like nothing and so, but remember, like there was one in the back of the uh of the house too, yes, uh-huh, and we would play, like me and buncho would literally jump like the stairs and like play in that little ledge, like for what again? For what? Risking life, yeah, anyway. So the place that your dad was talking about is like behind the church, so like it went, is like la fiesta de la justo was all the way at the end of la justo. We're talking about like in the middle. You know where the park is. At one street over there's a road that doesn't have an ending because it goes all the way to the other city, uh, boca del monte. So that that's where it is, and I've been like I've crossed that little river once.
Speaker 1:No girl, never again, because my friends huh it gave me the thumbs that gives you like?
Speaker 2:yeah, yeah, the heavy jibber is like. It was just like the vibes were so weird and I was like I'm never fucking doing this again and it was obviously one of those times that I was ditching. Whatever it is that I was ditching.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so you're doing it and never learning your lesson.
Speaker 2:I was like let me just go to school, clearly See, it is a family thing. So yeah, it is a family thing, so yeah. So La Ciguanaba. It is said that she hangs around much like La Llorona that hangs around rivers. La Ciguanaba likes to hang around bodies of water, so like rivers, like fountains you know how parks usually have fountains? Yeah, like that's her preferred method of luring men in La Llorona. No, la Ciguanaba.
Speaker 1:Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so La Llorona, our other uncle, has a. Well, my other uncle, your dad's brother, he has a. Our other uncle.
Speaker 1:Yeah, Like what the fuck. Our only uncle from our side, our side, yeah, yeah, your only uncle usually it's confusing, um anyway.
Speaker 2:So I remember he told a story that one time, when they were younger, with um, don chico's son I don't know which one, oscar, maybe, I don't know who, the one that lives in new york, I think.
Speaker 2:He said that they you know, asper Yush got home late or something and they told him that they couldn't come in the house or something. I don't know the story quite well, but they said that he said that they were in the car and they would hear La Llorona. And so if you know the story of La llorona, it it is said that she's she like, does this? Like hi, mis hijos, you know, because she drowned her children, and then she spends her days looking for them at night. And so he says that they were in the car and they both look at each other like did you hear that? And they were both like, yeah, no, like, let's just not pay attention to it. But they say that if you hear her far away, that she's almost right next to you and that if you hear her close to you she's far away. And so our tia says that they would hear her far, and so that they got like the, the chicken skin, what do you call it like the?
Speaker 2:the goosebumps and um and that they could feel it. They didn't see her, but they heard her and I don't know. I think don chico was um like first, for some reason, he came out and like he was like okay, well, fucking, come in in the house. And I don't know if it is because he heard her too and he was like let me go save these fools.
Speaker 1:But yeah, yeah right that's what I thought. It was funny yeah, so, uh.
Speaker 2:So the story later on, like, just for context, like she's again. She hangs around rivers, pillars, fountains, there's people who swear, they hear her cry. My brother has said that she's, that, he's heard her. He's also seen El Cadejo, of course, and my brother said that like it felt heavy and like suddenly I don't know where, like she appears supposedly, or like you hear her and she's supposed to también. Like she also has like long black hair, like pale skin, but then she's like desolate because of what she did, because she supposedly killed her children, like by drowning them in the river, and then she committed suicide, and so, as a punishment from the guy above, she is supposed to spend the rest of her days looking for them in agony. I don't really quite know what happens, though. If she gets you, does she go and drown you?
Speaker 1:yeah, supposedly that's what I've heard that she drowns you, but I really just know that it's just scary, and I don't know what happens when she does get you.
Speaker 2:Though yeah, I don't know either.
Speaker 1:I always thought her and the Siwanawa were kind of like tied, because it's kind of the same. They hang out in water. What?
Speaker 2:is it with?
Speaker 1:these women. Well, I don't know why I'm saying that. I don't know what's with these women in water, when clearly we have an issue with water. And I was like I'm out here judging these hoes and I'm like, well, leslie, as one would know, yeah, yeah, me too, leslie, as one would know yeah, yeah me too, because what's up with these women? In water and looking all good. Well, we would know not us over here trapping boys in water dude but like it's sirens over here oh well, mermaids are another.
Speaker 2:Do you know the legend of mermaids and where it comes from? Mermaids are another. Do you know the legend of mermaids and where it comes from?
Speaker 1:Then mermaids are the freaking, the manatee. They would see the manatees and then they thought it was mermaids. But also the mermaids were like sirens, and the sirens would lure men. What they're singing, you don't think mermaids exist though. No, really as much as I love them, you don't think mermaids exist, though no, really as much as I love them yeah, as much as I love them, no okay.
Speaker 2:Do you believe that any of the stories are true, or do you believe them to just be like, oh, like passed down stories from generations?
Speaker 1:you know what? Okay, well, if we're gonna go in this route, it's kind of like dinosaurs, right? No, I believe they do exist, because someone had to see it to tell the story okay, jack sparrow no, but I know what you mean, but for real, but for real, but for real, like even okay.
Speaker 1:well, I don't want to go in depth with this one, but religion for me it's like, okay, the stories have been passed down, and passed down, and passed down, and that's history. Same thing with history. We pass these stories down and it's like you have to be really insane to write about it. Talk about it if you didn't see it. Yeah, so someone had to have seen something. So I'm not saying that. If you're asking me if I believe that mermaids are real, no, maybe sirens, maybe, like you said, there's like I do believe in evil spirits, I do believe in the good ones too, and I feel like maybe there is something in there that's not, that's not natural, but I don't think mermaids.
Speaker 2:Wait. So okay, pardon my ignorance, because what the fuck is the difference between sirens and mermaids? Oh my God, that shit scared me.
Speaker 1:I don't know why we record these shits at night. That was scary. That was scary, that was scary, that was a loud joke. Well, okay, well, I don't believe that there is human-like species living in the water. That's what I'm saying, that I don't believe in. But I believe that there's something that presents itself as human, but it's not that I do believe.
Speaker 2:Okay, I understand it now. I think.
Speaker 1:Yeah oh well, it's like even like um I'm trying to say it without scaring myself right, like demons. Okay they're. They're said to like appear as people, and they're said there's some that even appear as children. So that's like it's a way to trap people. I don't know, it's like I guess a bait for us, but I don't, yeah there. It's like I guess a bait for us, but I don't, yeah, there's things out there that can present themselves as something that's familiar to us, but it's not real.
Speaker 2:That's true. I mean, it is said that the devil presents himself to people like as a well-dressed man, like hey, what's up, you want to make your dreams come true. Kind of like the guy from Tiana, the voodoo man. Yeah, dr facilier no, that is his name. I never know. I think he was the last one I'm not a disney nerd oh, but okay. Yeah, well, thank you for that explanation. What other stories?
Speaker 1:do you okay? So the bloody mary thing, I really don't know anything about it. Okay, but I what I can tell you is I'm gonna shout out my elementary school, patent elementary, that school, I don't. Okay. There was one bathroom I don't know if anyone from my school listens to this, but okay, the main building, like the main, where the classrooms really are, on the other side, which you could say was like the fourth through fourth or sixth grade classes, that's their like peer area, I guess. So the restrooms there, it's like on one side it's the, the boys restroom, on the other side it's the girls restroom. The girls restroom seemed to have, I want to say like five stalls, right, like in a row so it's not like two back back um in a row.
Speaker 1:The one that was, if we're going in, it's the one that's on the far left, the first one, I guess. If you're going left to right it's very dark on the corner ones. So the right one and the left one, they're really dark. The center, obviously, is the one that has all the lighting, but that left one had a mirror in the back, like on the wall, which I don't know why you need a mirror in the back, like on the wall, which I don't know why you need a mirror in that stall, and it was. It's been there. It's like it was built into the thing because the walls were tile and then it's like the mirror was right there so it's not even like you can just hang it no, yeah, it's not.
Speaker 1:It's not hung, it was like inserted there, it's like cemented on there and it's a cute, like I want to say like five inch, five inches all around it was a square, a square mirror and but like above the toilet, like right there, like why do you need a mirror there?
Speaker 1:it wasn't even like at level, like to say like oh, okay, they have it there so you could see your ass while you're wiping it. No, it was just there. And so everybody would tell you like oh, that's the, that's the mirror. If you want to see, uh, you have to say bloody mary and you have to do it in the dark. So like it was like a huge like rite of passage for some girls like to go back there to the restroom and turn off all the lights to the restroom, have your girls be on the lookout and then you say that while looking in the mirror I don't know what that's supposed to say they're supposed, supposedly, that mary would appear behind you.
Speaker 2:I was like don't see it but, yeah you're supposed to say it three times, and then she appears, supposedly yeah but then what does she do too?
Speaker 1:she does yeah, I don't know, I don't, that's I'm saying. I don't know what happens? Let's google it. So I did it. But I didn't turn off all the lights, I just went and did it. I was like, uh, but, but I got nothing. But again, I didn't do it without the lights. That would have been too scared to do.
Speaker 2:So it says. According to folklore, saying her name three times in a mirror is said to summon the Bloody Mary apparition. So the appearance is that she looks like a corpse or witch or ghost covered in blood. Behavior is that she may scream a corpse or a witch or a ghost covered in blood. Behavior is that she may scream, curse, strangle, steal the participant's soul, drink their blood and scratch their eyes out. The ritual is performed in a dimly lit or candlelit room and the name is chanted repeatedly in the mirror. It is a Japanese legend of Hana Ko-san. Oh, I guess Japanese people have a similar legend.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and her name is Hana Ko-san. Damn Well, be glad that she didn't come out. She didn't drink your blood. That's crazy.
Speaker 1:Ma'am. No, I'm So'm like looking it up too. But yeah, it is right, I'm like, but that that's what they would have us, the girls I, when it was something that just got passed down from grade to grade, you know that's crazy.
Speaker 2:no, hell, no. I remember when I moved here I learned about her and I was like, yeah, no, I'm not doing that. I have, I already have a thing that La Llorona follows me around, because Did you ever watch that joke that I sent you from the Mexican comedian? No, which one? The one regarding La Llorona? It was like a YouTube video.
Speaker 1:So there's this Mexican. Oh yeah, I told you no because I'm like, why would you send me that?
Speaker 2:oh, because it's a, it's a joke. But he's it's a mexican comedian and she's he's talking about how he's scared of the dark. And he went to his like psychologist or whatever. And uh, he was like yeah, I'm scared of the dark and what. And she's like, well, why are you scared of the dark? And he's like I'm just scared of the dark, like fuck, who are you for me to answer to you, you know? And so finally, like after a couple years in therapy or whatever, he finally tells her like all right, well, look, I'm a level with you.
Speaker 2:The reason I'm scared of the dark is because I'm scared of leorona. And then she was like you know, like obviously, she like kind of wanted to laugh and she was like, well, if that's your fear, like what you have to do is talk about her. So he talks about her in her special, in his special, and he says that everywhere he's gone to tour, in mexico city, everybody's like, hey, la llorona, you know la llorona, she's from here. So everybody claims la llorona to be from their town. And, as you know, in guatemala they say that she's from mantua. So who knows where the fuck she comes from?
Speaker 2:But everybody says that they have a Llorona right and so in my head always, I've always been scared of her, and he says that when he was on tour once, the only thing that calmed him down was thinking about Llorona going through customs and, like immigration, trying to fly to Ecuador or something where he was at, just to go scare him. So when I moved here to the US I was like I'm finally free from this bitch, because I used to think that she was going to scare me over there. And then I learned that they have the Bloody Mary here and I was like no.
Speaker 1:I thought I was done with these things.
Speaker 1:No, yeah, so then, okay, another one is Slenderman, and that one's also a mythical made-up one, but it is said that it's this like thin, tall, slender figure entity that follows you and it follows young adults, young kids, mainly children, basically like the youth, and it just follows you and it doesn't do anything to you.
Speaker 1:But according to the myth, it's that it drives you insane, it gets you in your nightmares Some Freddy Krueger shit, you know like it gets you in your nightmares, it drives you mentally insane and it makes you do things, and it was. I started it off because these two 12 year old girls killed their friend and they used it saying that the slender man, uh, made them do it. So that's a fact. You know, these two girls were, uh, they were found, or what is it. They were put on trial. They were found, or what is it? They were put on trial. They were committed 25 years in prison, I think, the other one 40 years in prison. But yeah, that was their story, that the Slender man lured them to do it and they stabbed their friend 19 times.
Speaker 2:I think I've heard about this case.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so that's. And then they made the movies for, for, but yeah, that was one of those things. But it ended up being like a photoshop contest that made this entity. So they're saying it's a myth. So kind of like what you were saying, like, okay, you don't think mermaids are real. So I'm like, yeah, it's like one of those kind of like the what is it? The blur witch project? That too no, yeah.
Speaker 2:Well, I do believe witches are real, like. Well, I believe that a lot of things are real. I still hope that a vampire is gonna turn me one day, you know. So I don't know what to tell you she wanted to turn no life yes, I don't know.
Speaker 2:I think, like, imagine I would. I don't know, I think, like you know how you said, like there is nothing that is like human, but somehow, like it still catches us, like that's 100% gonna be. Even though I'm a fucking scaredy cat, I probably will see a vampire and faint, and then they'll kill me. They won't turn me because I won't get a chance to tell them like, hey, please do this for me, you know. But I do believe that, like there is no way.
Speaker 1:We both. Oh yeah.
Speaker 2:Like there's no way that so many stories from so many parts of the world have Similarities. Similarities, yeah, like, for example, without going too far, you know, like something that is really real, the pyramids from egypt and the pyramids from, like mexico and guatemala, and like all the places where there was indigenous people, like how being in like two separate fucking parts of the world, like they decided how did they build the same things?
Speaker 1:Yeah, and it's not like back then they had pictures, or like the internet, you guys.
Speaker 2:They didn't have YouTube Like back then it was very yeah. They didn't have Pinterest to like get inspo. You know what I mean. So, like, it was literally like Like they both did the same thing at the same time and I don't know how traveling back was back then, and I don't think one of the Mayans was like hey, I'm gonna go explore the world see what they're doing in Egypt and then bring it out here.
Speaker 2:Yeah, no, yeah. So like to me it's similar with with those like type of like myths and legends, that it's like, if so many people are saying the same thing, I don't think everybody tells the same lie. So, yeah, I think I have. I just saw. I just saw a weird shadow turns out. It was my own arm, but I'm on edge it looks like we're both fucking scared right.
Speaker 2:Oh bitch I don't know why we do this to ourselves. Honestly, last time we recorded the episode, I did not sleep one bit the entire night night. Dude, there's this other one. Yeah, I was scared. There's this other one that like used to fucking haunt me when I was little, because there's a legend of el sombrero and I know that there's one in english, but I don't know what it's called. But basically it's like this midget, you could say it's like a charro In Guatemala. It's like a charro. A charro like a.
Speaker 1:So a short person, a little person.
Speaker 2:Uh-huh, yeah, but a charro is like one of those people that sing mariachis and they have the big, big hat and you know, like the charro hat that mariachi people wear, and so he's like all dressed in black and like with boots, like a like cowboy boots with that thing in the. You know that that little thing that that spins in the boot, what is it called?
Speaker 2:the spurs yeah, yeah, and. And so this tiny fucking thing, or whatever it is, usually hangs around when there is a full moon, and so it is said that little girls are supposed to sleep with their hair braided, especially if they have beautiful, beautiful hair. Because he likes to go and play with little girl's hair, and so the legend goes that if he goes into your room at night or whatever, he braids your hair, and if he braids your hair, it's like he selected you and he's gonna come and take your soul, or something like that, and so people will end them see pussy, and so okay so it's like a little you guys to paint the picture.
Speaker 1:It's a, it's like a smurf, like a what do you call it? Like a gnome, like a little elf, a little thing like that. Basically to give you guys that. So she's saying that he's wearing like a, like a mariachi type hat. There's other, like I know in mexico. It's like, uh, like a, like a gnome, like a it has a big hat like that, like little pony pointy hat like that.
Speaker 1:so yeah, I see what you're going, yeah what you're saying, but yeah, that's the story that he tends to go after girls and horses. Yeah, like he would braid, like that's their thing.
Speaker 2:They braid their horses the hair, yeah, the hair of little girls, or the tail of the horse, and like if you got chosen or whatever, like the only way to, kind of get rid of the curse or whatever was to cut your hair.
Speaker 1:You had to stand in the mirror. Oh Well, I heard the one that you had to stare, you had to stand. This is how weird it gets, because I heard someone. This is when I was little. Someone said that they had that, and it was a lady. At the time I was a little girl. She was telling everybody that she had that, that the little elf was following her and that she was told to stand naked in front of a mirror and tell it to leave her alone, and that's how you get rid of it.
Speaker 1:I don't know how true that is, but it worked for her so.
Speaker 2:Well, I've heard that one too, but also that you do have to cut your hair, because the braid that he does is supposed to be impossible to take off or undo it yeah. Let me go cut my hair real quick.
Speaker 1:Bye.
Speaker 2:Bitchin' was the worst part about this shit that I hear my mom and I think she fell asleep already and I want to go wake her up so she could close the window, because I don't want to go close to the window, I don't want to go near the window oh, my god, yeah, basically like my mom fucking telling the whatever come in.
Speaker 1:And then she was you're going to have to turn off the lights because I'm going to bed. I'm like, oh, ma'am, come back and turn off all the lights. You're not doing this to me, come back, not me with my phone flashlight, like I'm fucking paranoid, grown-ass woman.
Speaker 2:Dude, at least now we have flashlights on our phones. When I was young, I remember that like hearing all these stories Lights out lights out Uh-huh.
Speaker 2:No, hearing all these stories like when I would have to turn off my light. When I tell you, leslie, that I would flip. Okay, imagine Mamaita's room, right, I would flip the switch, do one, jump to the middle of the room and then jump onto my bed. And then every morning my grandma would be like why are your shoes in the middle of the room? I was like because I was not about to walk close to my bed, so something could grab my feet.
Speaker 1:Okay, you know my room layout, right?
Speaker 2:you know what I just thought about a video I sent you that I was like me at my 31 years old yeah, with all the fucking christmas lights over there.
Speaker 1:Yeah, exactly so. You see my room, you know the layout, so I don't even have to leave my bed to turn off the light, I just go and I just knock out because I'm like no, you're not about to do that oh girl, I'm supposed to take a shower and do the most, but but I shouldn't wake up early tomorrow, or I'm going to wake up my mom to like keep me company.
Speaker 2:I think this episode is more scary than the last only because, like, they are urban legends and stuff. But how do you know that?
Speaker 1:Because who came up with them.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they're're not gonna be like hey, you called, I know dude, imagine the people have you ever heard about the appalachian appalachian mountains yeah, appalachian, yes, yeah, well say it Appalachians. You know that my English is not perfect. The Appalachian Mountain.
Speaker 1:The.
Speaker 2:Appalachian Mountain. What about it? I've seen so many TikToks. There's a whole thing on TikTok where they talk about it and people are like. So I came to visit and I heard this sound and the people that live there and are from there, they're like no, you didn't. Like, if you hear something, no, you didn't. If you see something, no, you didn't. And like you don't acknowledge it. Basically, and you don't go into the woods at night and you don't walk your dog after dark. Like, they're very like. It seems like everybody knows that you're not supposed to be out after dark. Can you imagine the people that live over there, like they just, or if you just move there and you don't know anything about that?
Speaker 1:girl. That's funny because I was watching van helsing the other day and it's like when they, when they get to that town and everybody is like, oh, you're strangers, they're interrogating them, but then the vampires come out and all that, and then they're like go inside, go inside.
Speaker 2:They know to go inside, but the strangers don't, and it's like oh, I had to see that movie because I haven't seen it, but it sounds like that. I know, I know, I know, I know, I know I heard your guy.
Speaker 1:Do yourself a service and go watch it. I sure will. Miss Wants to be a Vampire.
Speaker 2:Tomorrow, though. Tomorrow, Because tonight I'm going to watch something animated.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, that's another thing, after I have to watch Family Guy or something funny to lighten the mood, because there's no way.
Speaker 2:I know.
Speaker 1:So I'm about to put some family ground.
Speaker 2:I had to watch. What did I watch? I watched the Emperor's New Groove after that episode Because I was like, let me put something that is extremely stupid and I know it's going to make me laugh, I know. Well, I hope that you guys learned something new and if you didn't, at least now you know that we are both scaredy cats and we cannot deal.
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